1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: a crime? 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: And Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews. 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: In England, he'd go to jail for that. Here in America, 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: did he commit a hate crime? Listen to Too Many 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Lawyers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: The John Annick and Kenny Florian podcast. John Annick and 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: Kenny Florian. 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: I love him. 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him. 15 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 5: Let's hear that both big job. 16 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 6: There, Cocoa freckers hound out. 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved. 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 5: That's oh, it's it great to be with you. Sorry 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 5: for the long wait for this episode. It is Monday, 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 5: September fifth, twenty twenty two, Labor Day here in the 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 5: United States of America, if not worldwide, now I guess 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 5: it's not worldwide. 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: Sound very ignorant. 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 5: Off the top of the show today, it's episode three 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 5: sixty four of the Ana Camplorying Podcast. It's good to 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 5: see him, my man. I'm out here on the West Coast, 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 5: so this is sort of a primetime episode for you. 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 5: Seven h nine pm Eastern on a Monday night. 30 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: Kid. Yeah, but it's all good. It's all good. I 31 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: got dinner in me. I'm a happy I'm a happy 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: boy now. And it's good to see you too. Man. 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: You were at Stan's wedding, which was very cool. 34 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: I was at Brian Stand's wedding in Los Angeles, the 35 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 5: greater Southern California area last night. That is one beautiful state. 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 5: So no, it was absolutely great to see him in 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 5: his element and see how happy he was. And I 38 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 5: have to say, you know, as someone who came from 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 5: I don't know if I broke in family right, but 40 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 5: my family did break apart. But seeing them together, Brian 41 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 5: Stan and his second wife, Michelle, who's incredible, almost as incredible, 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: maybe as a credible as him, but five daughters combined, 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: and seeing these five girls together water works for me. 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 5: You know, Like when Stan was doing his vows and 45 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: he turns to his step daughters, like me and Jay 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 5: Glazer just start balling. 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: I'm legit. 48 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: Balling like legit tears coming down my sunglasses. Hot as 49 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 5: hell in there out there, I should say, but beautiful backdrop. 50 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 5: Really happy for Brian Stan. Speaking of vows, you know, 51 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 5: my wife had said a couple of days before the wedding, like, oh, 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 5: you know, maybe we should have a party just like 53 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 5: one hundred people, or you know, do like vow renewals 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: at some point in time. 55 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And. 56 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 5: I don't want to do that, you know. I mean, 57 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 5: I don't want to be the center of attention any 58 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 5: more than I have to. Like at my wedding, I 59 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 5: didn't want to grab a microphone or ken Flow was 60 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 5: there dressed to the fucking nines. 61 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: No socks with dress shoes. 62 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 5: Probably, so now it seems like that's the look, right, 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 5: is uh, you know, no socks or just ankle socks 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: with dress shoes. Yeah, you know, my ankles are pretty nice, 65 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 5: I guess. So I think maybe I should start to 66 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 5: move in that direction. But ken Flow is doing that 67 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 5: in fucking two thousand ten at my wedding, ye, Massachusetts, way. 68 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: Ahead of everybody. Hey dude, so listen, what's the year like? 69 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: Is there a year like amount of years when you 70 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: renew or is this kind of like, oh, well, well 71 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: we knew because right, Christy, like, how many years? No, 72 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: I'm curious. 73 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, exactly right now, Christy, I'm with you, but 74 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 5: I will I got it back. Well, I will say 75 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 5: that after going through a wedding at our advanced ages, 76 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: my wife at the end of the whole thing was like, yeah, 77 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 5: I'm good. I don't want to party anymore, which is 78 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 5: kind of nice. She doesn't want to do it actually anymore, 79 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: at least for now. But Cody has chased that information. 80 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: He says. 81 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 5: Bowery nules are often conducted at intervals of two, five, ten, 82 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: twenty five or fifty. Well, we're doing your vows after 83 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 5: two years, folks, I mean and advice to young married couples. 84 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: I would not do it at two years. I'd fucking wait. 85 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: I don't even think it. 86 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 7: Has to go wrong for that to happen, right, Like 87 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 7: it's not organic. 88 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: John's doing something right though, right because he he had 89 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: one wife. He's with her the whole time. You know, 90 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: he's been. He went to stand second wedding, He went 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: to my second wedding. If you're having a second wife, 92 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: just if you're friends with Annik, invite him he'll be there. 93 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 5: I think he'll be lock no matter what. That's a 94 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 5: good point. Yeah, so far, so good. We got one 95 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: wife so far. But yeah, I mean I barely knew 96 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: my wife when we got married, never mind after two 97 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 5: years of dating. I know who she is now and 98 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 5: we are still together. So real quick, I just thought 99 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 5: this was sort of a funny story. So I don't 100 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 5: drink that much, you know, prefer maybe some other recreational 101 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 5: drugs here and there, but I don't drink that much. 102 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: So casino cruise the night before, and it's like pretend money, 103 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 5: but basically whoever wins gets whoever has the most money. 104 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 5: There were two prizes grand prize on the casino cruise 105 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 5: the night before stands wedding. You know Oculus, right, the 106 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 5: virtual reality thing and iPad, all sorts of electronics that 107 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 5: my children would absolutely love. 108 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: Right. 109 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 5: So I'm a couple of tequila's in a little bit 110 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 5: buckle playing roulette and I think I'm playing with. 111 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: Five dollar chips. 112 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 5: And again, it's pretend money, right, Great for me to 113 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 5: play with preten money instead of losing my shirt the 114 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 5: night before the wedding. So I think I'm playing with 115 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 5: five dollar chips. And I start putting the on numbers 116 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 5: as I often do, I play a corner of the 117 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 5: wheel and the dealer the woman says, you know, can 118 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 5: you just do one on each number instead of two chips? 119 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 5: And I'm thinking, well, we're scaling back the stakes here. 120 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 5: Little did I know that I was putting five hundred 121 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 5: dollars chips on every number because you know, they gave 122 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 5: you a thousand bucks. I got it up to like 123 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 5: five or seven grand whatever. Long story short, I had 124 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 5: a five hundred dollars ship that I thought was a 125 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 5: five dollar chip on Red twenty three, my son's birthday. 126 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: So you know, I end up with like eighteen thousand 127 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 5: dollars in chips or whatever. So the one thing they 128 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 5: told us not to do was give the chips to 129 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 5: the kids. But it's like all these cute little girls, 130 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: I'm missing my daughters. Like of course, Savannah Stan and 131 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 5: her her beautiful stepsister got my got my chips, and 132 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 5: they got the prize package. 133 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: So that's awesome, man, wow, And I'm sure my children 134 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: would would be so pissic. Yeah, they are. 135 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 5: One other thing before we get into Seadle Gone and 136 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 5: what was an amazing UFC Live event in Paris. Here 137 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 5: in the US, we are on the eve essentially of 138 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 5: the NFL season, which is a very special time in 139 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 5: the lives of many people. So one account I follow 140 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: on Instagram Instagram I should say NFL memes underscore ig 141 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: and they posted something that said, only one more week 142 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 5: until I let a professional football team determine my mood 143 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 5: for the next four months. And you know, for a 144 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 5: lot of us, that is our existence. I think for 145 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 5: me as a Patriots fan going into this year, I'm 146 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 5: not ambitious or optimistic necessarily. You know, I don't particularly 147 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: think the quarterback is the next guy. But in most seasons, 148 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 5: that team, if my expectations were a little bit loftier, 149 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 5: would control my mood effectively for four months, and it 150 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 5: would my week would basically depend on that Sunday result. 151 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 5: You know, right, We've had many good years, We've many 152 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 5: good years years. Yeah, but at forty four years of age, 153 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 5: it is interesting that that a football team could have 154 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 5: that profounded impact on your every day. All right, how 155 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 5: are you recovering from all right, from the COVID twenty 156 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 5: or whatever you had. 157 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 6: Dude, I've been feeling good. I've been feeling way better. 158 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 6: So yeah, no, thank you about that. 159 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: I like that. Yeah, that first day of the podcast, 160 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: I was feeling way better now, infinitely better. 161 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, seedle Gan is feeling wicked good here 162 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 5: on a Monday after what he was able to do 163 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: against tay tu Ivasa. Could not have drawn it up 164 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 5: any better for the Combat Sports Leader. Unbelievable main event 165 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 5: to headline a great card in Paris, and seedle Gan 166 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: went in there a man with a plan, right. He 167 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: wanted to finish the fight, He wanted to put on 168 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: a show, He wanted to impress the promotion, the fan base, 169 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 5: his fellow Parisians. I mean, I know we're not supposed 170 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 5: to cuss as much, right, mission fucking accomplished for seatle Gon, 171 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: and I'm just so impressed with what he was able 172 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 5: to do to sustain what happened early on in the fight. 173 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 5: In that second round, Big ups to both heavyweights, and 174 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 5: we'll start obviously with the winner, seatle Gun. 175 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I think that's the story, right is. Not 176 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: only was it a very technical performance, I think he 177 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: got a little bit lackadaisical during that exchange when he 178 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: got caught by Tyvasa, but what he did do is 179 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 3: learn a little bit more about himself and his ability 180 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: to battle back, get back on track, and to not 181 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: you know, take it easy against any opponents, so especially 182 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: one as dangerous as to Ivasa, but when he's putting 183 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: it together. Man again as a heavyweight, and again we 184 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: haven't seen John Jones yet at heavyweight, but he moves 185 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: better than anyone out there in that division. His footwork, 186 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 3: he's so slick, he's so smooth his footwork, patterns, his 187 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: angles that he creates the different weapons that he uses, 188 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: attacking the body, attacking the legs, going upstairs. He has 189 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: a lot of cool little tricks that you just don't 190 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: see a whole lot of heavyweights use or even have. 191 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: So I was really impressed with his performance and again 192 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: his his ability to battle back from getting knocked down 193 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: and having to whether that storm, I thought was really impressive. 194 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: He's gonna learn a lot from that. 195 00:08:59,640 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 196 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, just a great performance from from Cyril Gun. 197 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: Doctor David Abossi, friend of the program who has looked 198 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 5: in my knee and handles. Several MMA athletes, Kayla Harrison 199 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: and others reference to kick to the spleen by seadle gone. 200 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 5: Have you ever taken a kick to the spleen. You 201 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 5: probably knew before this fight where the spleen was. I 202 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 5: didn't know until the doctor's great explanation. I've never taken 203 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 5: a kick to the spleen. It sounds painful. And look, 204 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 5: you still have your spleen. 205 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 3: I still have it. Okay, you still have your spleen. 206 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, Sele got mixing it up beautifully. 207 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 5: I still would contend that he could fight a less 208 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 5: risky fight too, because if you're going for it and 209 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 5: you're having aggression offensively in the heavyweight division, especially against 210 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 5: a guy like Tie, at times, you're gonna leave yourself open. 211 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 5: Ties a great athlete. He's accurate, and he connected, and 212 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 5: I just think for Seattle this is just like a 213 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 5: win within a win. I mean, just a brilliant performance 214 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 5: and result. And in terms of his star power, it 215 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 5: opens up so many big fights. And I do think 216 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 5: touy Vasa stock goes up for me as well. You know, 217 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 5: the desire for him has aligned with the athleticism, right, 218 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 5: and I do believe that he's getting better. He wants it, 219 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: you know, I think he I don't know if Tai 220 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 5: Tuyvasa can be champion necessarily, but I guess as far 221 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 5: as erle Ghan is concerned, first can flow? 222 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: What do you do with Gon now? 223 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 5: Because I mean the world in a lot of respects 224 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 5: is his oyster as Francis and Ganu idols on the men? 225 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: That's a good question, man, I don't know. I mean, 226 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: who's out there for him right now? I don't know. 227 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: Maybe the maybe it's the loser of John Jones and 228 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: Steve amic perhaps So are. 229 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 5: We assuming that that fight is going to happen? Is 230 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 5: that the assumption that Jones and Steve A I? 231 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: I think so. I think that's the fight that's gonna happen. 232 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 3: I think that's the fight that the UFC wants. I 233 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: think St. John Jones wants it as well Francis and Ganu. 234 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: When is he going to be ready? You know there 235 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: are six months right so right so unless he gets 236 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 3: a rematch against Francis, and I don't know, does he 237 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: kind of just wait? Who else is out there? I 238 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 3: don't have the uh right right, so you have the 239 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: rankings there, But I got it all. I got it off. 240 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 5: I look at Cody just popping write it in and 241 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 5: I swear Cody's not double dipping today When we'd go 242 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 5: prime time. We don't have to worry about other people 243 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 5: trying to, you know, pluck at our executive producer, Cody Merrow. 244 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 5: But so we'll see what happens with John Jones and 245 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: steep A. I mean, I don't know that any of 246 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: us would be ambitious right now that I think the 247 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 5: last pay per view of the year might be December tenth. 248 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 5: I mean, do we really think that they're going to 249 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: lock the door behind Jones and step A? December tenth 250 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 5: looks like maybe January pay per view would be Brazil. 251 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, but I think John Jones, 252 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 5: I guess, would be more viable now than before given 253 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 5: this result for Seedle Gone, I mean, what a great 254 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 5: way to distance himself from the Francis and Ghanu fight. 255 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 5: Curtis Blades is lurking and chirping, and what I like 256 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 5: about Blades another guy who's who's right there on the 257 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 5: cusp and remarkably is never fought for the title. I 258 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 5: don't believe aspinall's on the men in ghan who's on 259 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 5: the men deep Bay? Who knows what's going on with him? 260 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 5: You know, at some point you got to think that 261 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: he's gonna have at least one more fight. I think 262 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 5: they'll probably do Aspinall and too Evasa. You know, Tom 263 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 5: Aspinall called for that fight, and it's just interesting. I 264 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 5: think mc maher and Dana White and Shawn Shelby deserve 265 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 5: a lot of credit for the way this played out 266 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 5: right because they struck with this fight between Gon and 267 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: Touivasa when it seemed like a foundation had been laid 268 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 5: to make the fight between ty Tuyvasa and tom Aspinall. 269 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: So I think that might happen. 270 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 5: But Blades and Gone both strike me as guys can't 271 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 5: flow who want to stay active and want to compete, 272 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 5: and you know, I don't think. I don't think Gone, 273 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 5: depending on you know, whatever recovery times he needs, would 274 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: be against you know, getting in there with with Curtis 275 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: Blades in a main events setting. So I think you 276 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 5: might see Blades and Gone next, But that would be 277 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 5: also big night for the heavyweight division all around. We 278 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 5: congratulated Seattle Gone really good, dude. It just seemed like 279 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 5: an incredible environment. I look forward to talking to some 280 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 5: of my colleagues next week to see, uh how they 281 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 5: enjoyed being there in Paris, France. Alon Z did anyone 282 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 5: say alon z, which on the broadcast means let's go. 283 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 5: It's watching here and there on my phone. I did 284 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 5: not ingest a lot of this fight card because I 285 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 5: was trying to give the greatest living American Brian stand 286 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: my all, man, did I feel inferior at this wedding? 287 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 5: By the way, right, I am surrounded by former Navy 288 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 5: football players and Marines and CEOs, and I mean I 289 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 5: felt like a fucking runt bro, you know, I mean 290 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: I really truthfully like, no, it's just a lot of 291 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 5: impressive men and just sort of in awe of the 292 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: bond and obviously stand leading the charge as usual. By 293 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 5: the way, I don't think Brian Stan listens to the 294 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 5: antic Implorian podcast, but I do think that, you know, 295 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: he had a segment on here for a while. We 296 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 5: got to have him back on what does take a 297 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 5: stand or whatever he called it, you know. But I 298 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 5: do believe the fan base enjoys the updates from the 299 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: former WEC champion. Obviously he was a stapleue UFC broadcast team. 300 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 5: But if he listens, we're about to roll in a 301 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 5: video that he's probably not going to enjoy. So basically, 302 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: at the end of the night. You know, stands trying 303 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 5: to coordinate the after party. And I love my buddy, 304 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 5: but you know he loves a microphone like nobody's business. 305 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 5: So here's Stan finding a hot microphone if we have 306 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 5: it at the tail end of his wedding. 307 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. If you're watching, listen, can you tell us where? Right? 308 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 6: You tell us where we're rolling Once we get to 309 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 6: that lobby, we are rolling as adults and we're gonna 310 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 6: rock that lace. 311 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 5: Let's go. Let go be stand trying to rally the 312 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: troops in the middle of the night. I mean I was, 313 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: I was browned out. I got back there and uh, 314 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 5: this was last night. I think, Yes, I drove from 315 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 5: from La to Vegas. We're in Las Vegas now here 316 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 5: at the beautiful Waldorf Astoria. This is like a ken 317 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 5: Flow hotel in the Waldorf Astoria. Rest of shirt, I'm 318 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 5: going to New York, New York with the UFC masses 319 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 5: in a couple of days. Lost my train of thought, 320 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 5: but yeah, there's Bee Stan at the end of the night. 321 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: I think the bar was closed when we got back here. 322 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: All right, but I'm going in a lot of different 323 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: directions today co to see itle gone, great family great 324 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 5: guy and I love time man. I mean, the ultimate entertainer, 325 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 5: one of the true show men in the game today. 326 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: All right, what'd you think of the co main event 327 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: Robert Whittaker and Marvin Vittoria. I mean, I gotta think 328 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 5: a fighter like you on your level just really enjoys 329 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 5: watching Robert Whittaker continue to evolve, continue to get better. 330 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: Man. He's just he's such a technician and he knows 331 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: exactly what he needs to do and when he needs 332 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: to do it. You could see that his experience advantage, 333 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: his speed advantage was very apparent in that fight. He's 334 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: just always making great decisions. You know, he's one of 335 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: those guys, let's take the out of Sonya fight out 336 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: of it, but he never throws himself out of position. 337 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: He's not making major mistakes, which was why that loss 338 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: in the way that he lost the first time around 339 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: against out Assanya was so unusual. He's just a very 340 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: smart fighter. He's got a lot of different tools, and 341 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: Marvin Vitty really was just ineffective throughout that fight, really 342 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: couldn't do much at all. The gains that he's made 343 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: with his wrestling, his ability to you know, counter a 344 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: lot of takedown, attempts to get back to his feet 345 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: if he needs to, and again, I was just really 346 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: really impressed. It's just another classic Robert Whittaker performance where 347 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: he's very machine like and he can make you look 348 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: like you're not a very good fighter, even if you 349 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: are good. And I think that's always a sign of 350 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: a guy who is not good but great. 351 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 5: And we talk about the word desire, and I think 352 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 5: it can waiver for fighters at times, not to suggest 353 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 5: that Robert Whittaker's championship desire ever waivered. He's always had 354 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 5: that medal, for sure, but he wants it right now, 355 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 5: like in a very bad way. Like he's just totally 356 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 5: committed and focused and has that work life balance with 357 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: his family and everything else. And yeah, I just thought 358 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: he performed beautifully. And there's a lot to get into 359 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 5: on the Whitaker side of the Tory side. Let's close 360 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 5: the batory stuff up and then circle back on Whittaker 361 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 5: and perceived desire to move up to two hundred and 362 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: five pounds. Potentially, Marvin Butttori hasn't necessarily evolved a whole lot. 363 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 5: I mean, certainly we can commend his chin and everything else, 364 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 5: and he had a couple of moments here and there. 365 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 5: I guess, you know, certainly, I think Robert Whitaker would 366 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 5: have finished most middleweights over these fifteen minutes on this night. 367 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 5: But what do you make of a Tori here in defeat, 368 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 5: just can't get over the hump against the two elite 369 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 5: guys of this division. 370 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think you kind of nailed it. I 371 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: don't see a guy who is really improving and trying 372 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: to be a better mixed martial artist. Necessarily. Maybe he is, 373 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: maybe that's a little strong, But as far as seeing 374 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: new tools and new wrinkles to his game and other 375 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: parts that are dangerous, I just don't see it. It 376 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: was kind of exactly what I expected, and that's not 377 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: a great thing. You want to see new tools, you 378 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: want to see different strategies. You know, his best bet 379 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: was just moving forward, pressuring, trying to, you know, get 380 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: Whittaker to brawl with them a little bit, trying to 381 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: get him on the ground. You know, he's not a 382 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: submission threat necessarily. He's not a guy who's going to 383 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 3: wow you with his speed or athleticism necessary. He's a big, 384 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: strong kid. But you know, I think what he needs 385 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 3: is something different there needs to be some other element, 386 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: especially when it comes to his footwork and the type 387 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: of strikes that he throws, because he's very predictable. There's 388 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: very similar patterns with all of his fights, and that's 389 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: a dangerous thing if you're trying to be the best 390 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 3: guy in the world. When you're doing the same thing 391 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: over and over again, it's going to be easy for 392 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: especially a guy like a Robert Whittaker of course, to 393 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: read what you're doing and then pick you apart. 394 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 8: Yeah. 395 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 5: No, well played, well put And we all know the 396 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 5: Tory puts in the time, the hours, I mean, the 397 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: man hours in training is not the question. But you 398 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: wonder if maybe getting a different look I think at 399 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 5: this point, you know, pushing the reset button and doing 400 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 5: that would would make a lot of sense. So Robert 401 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 5: said to Submission Radio, I believe before the fight, and 402 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 5: I quote, I've been thinking about two hundred and five 403 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 5: pounds a fair bit. The problem is, wouldn't go to 404 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 5: light heavyweight to come back down to middleweight just because 405 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 5: I don't want to go to two zero five as 406 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 5: a fat one eighty five or right. See, A lot 407 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 5: of guys try that and they just get starts and 408 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 5: they come back down. It doesn't make sense. And a 409 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 5: lot of comments obviously in the post fight about being 410 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 5: the most dangerous man in the division. Now Daniel Cormier 411 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 5: takes great exception to even his dear friend Kamara Usman 412 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 5: suggesting that he can go up and fight yan Belhovich. 413 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 5: You know, and I certainly think that as a former welterweight, 414 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 5: Whittaker would be tremendously outsized against somebody like Uri Prohaska, 415 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 5: the current champion. But I do think Whittaker finds himself 416 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 5: in a little bit of a tricky situation. I would 417 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 5: like to see Robert Whittaker fight Palo Costa in a 418 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 5: main event. I mean, I think that is an enormous fight. 419 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: I think the stars have aligned, the calendar aligns. I 420 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 5: think that makes all the sense in the world. What 421 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: are your thoughts on Whittaker or any I guess elite 422 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 5: welterweight slash middleweight going up to what is perceived to 423 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 5: be a more shallow light heavyweight division and content. 424 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to unpack there. I 425 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: think that Whitaker should STANDT one in five. He's not 426 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: the biggest middleweight anywhere, you know, anyway, So I think 427 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: that he's in the right division. He unfortunately has you know, 428 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: Pereira and out of Sonia in front of him. We 429 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 3: are going to be very tough challenges for him whoever 430 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: wins that fight. But I think you're spot on with 431 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: his next potential challenge. I would love to see him 432 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: against Paulo Costa. I think that's a big fight. I 433 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: definitely think that's a big main event fight night, or 434 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: perhaps a comin event for a pay per view. I 435 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: think that's that's right about there. And for Vittori again, yes, 436 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: the two hundred and five pound division is kind of 437 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: weak right now. Should he go up to two o five? No, 438 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: that's not the answer for him. He just needs to 439 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: improve his skills, keep doing what he's doing, and you know, 440 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: just try to add some new wrinkles into his game. 441 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: But other than that, you know, people always try to 442 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 3: find a different weight class as a solution. I certainly 443 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 3: fought in a lot of different weight classes because I 444 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: had to, and some because I chose to. But it 445 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily the right, you know choice for me going 446 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: down to one forty five, even though I had a 447 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: title shot. You know, you got to find that weight 448 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 3: class that is best for you, that makes the most 449 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: amount of sense for me, it was one fifty five, 450 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: but I think that's kind of the same case. 451 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 8: For someone like Batory. 452 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well, we'll see what they do with 453 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: Robert Whitaker. 454 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: But I do think the Palo Costa fight that just 455 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 5: gets me so excited, and Costa called for it on 456 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 5: Saturday night or on Sunday shortly after the fight. All right, 457 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 5: Longo's coming up here in a couple of minutes if 458 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 5: he answers the prime time bill here on the East Coast. 459 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: What did you think of No Sordini Mabov against a 460 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 5: very competitive Joaquin Buckley unanimous decision twenty nine to twenty 461 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 5: eight times two and thirty to twenty seven, the dissenting 462 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 5: judge all in favor of the streaking No Sordini Mabos. 463 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: I thought, Buckley, you know, tried, you know, valiantly to 464 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: try to create angles and mix things up. He was 465 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 3: switching stances a lot. He was shifting his stances as 466 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: he came for, which I thought threw imov Off off 467 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: a little bit. But imv Off is tremendous fighter, man. 468 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: I think he lacked in experience. You could see that 469 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 3: in round three. That's what allowed Buckley to come back 470 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: into the game. But from a skills from a skills perspective, 471 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: from a size perspective, and from someone who knows how 472 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: to put it all together, I thought it was pretty 473 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: clear that Imovov was the better fighter. Buckley, you know, 474 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: showed a lot of heart moving forward. He's too small 475 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: for that division, I think as far as if you 476 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 3: want to make a run at a belt, if he 477 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: wants to just fight and get big fights, okay, that's fine. 478 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: But if you're trying to be a top five, you're 479 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: trying to be elite in that division, that's probably not 480 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: the division for Buckley in my opinion. But I thought 481 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: he showed a lot of heart and round three. I 482 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: thought he won round three, but it was largely because Imovov, 483 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: I thought, was getting a little bit frustrated, a little 484 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: bit winded, and didn't really have the experience to fall 485 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: back on to kind of I guess cruise or dominate 486 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 3: the rest of that fight. So yeah, but I think 487 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: I mov Off is someone to watch. Do not sleep 488 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 3: on this. And I said that before his last fight, 489 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: even it is lost against Phil Hawes, I said, this 490 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: is a guy who you need to watch. I think 491 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: he's gonna be a really good fighter moving forward, and 492 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be very dangerous and and potential 493 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: contender in the future. Yeah, well played. 494 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 5: I got a buddy who loves betting on Nassardini Mavov 495 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 5: and cast another. 496 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: Ticket this weekend. 497 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: Alright, let us get to the start of the program. 498 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 5: Let us get to the Ray Long Minute. 499 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: He is now time for the Ray longo minutes, and 500 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna quitch a hole in this such that's what 501 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 2: I watch the Ray Long Minute, the John Anick and 502 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: Kenny Florian podcast. 503 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 8: There, Hello, there he is. Hello, then, my boys, what's 504 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 8: up man? 505 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 3: How are we doing good? 506 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 8: That was the wedding? 507 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: Oh it was great. It was great. 508 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 5: Let's show Ray a video not of Brian stan lathered 509 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 5: at the end of the night. But let's show the 510 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 5: Uh the final song of the night. I mean, watch 511 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 5: this ray with UH with the stand in the middle 512 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 5: of come on, I mean, bless the USA, surrounded by 513 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: a bunch of marines. It's a tight knit group. It 514 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 5: was a special night. 515 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: You know. 516 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 8: That's awesome. 517 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: Man. 518 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 8: Congrats to Brian stand Man. What is just a great guy. 519 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: It is amazing. It is really amazing. 520 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 5: So I ran into some dude like at the hotel 521 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 5: pool and he had just met Brian the night before, 522 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 5: and so I told him out, you know, a former 523 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 5: broadcast partner whatever, and he said, you know, you must 524 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: have felt really inferior standing next to that guy for 525 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 5: five years. And I'm like, yes, like absolutely, Like it 526 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 5: really is an interesting feeling. I mean I certainly feel 527 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 5: that with Ken Flow as well, Like Kenny is a 528 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 5: great living American, Ray Longo is as well, but Beaston 529 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: is like, I mean, the dude, it's just like, don't 530 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 5: give me Tom Brady, greatest living American. Tom Brady never 531 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 5: served the United States of America exactly. So how are you, Ray? 532 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 8: I'm pretty good? 533 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: Where are you? 534 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 8: Back from Calabasas? 535 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 5: I actually drove to Vegas today getting ready for UFC 536 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 5: two seventy nine. 537 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: You know, just keep burning it it all ends. 538 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 8: I mean, it is crazy when you get on that 539 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 8: wheel and it just keeps rolling. 540 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: Man hamster wheel. 541 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 8: A hamster wheel, that's what it is. 542 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even know where I am right now. 543 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 5: Got a little buckled last night, but uh, did you 544 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 5: see sidle Gan and ty Too? 545 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 8: I vasa who beautiful fight. 546 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 5: Man so Ken Flow and I called a heavyweight fight 547 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 5: in Brisbane, Australia in twenty thirteen between Mark Hunting Bigfoot Silva, 548 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 5: ubiquitously regarded as one of the best heavyweight fights of 549 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 5: all time. You know, I kevil, I don't know if 550 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 5: this was that right. This wasn't a full twenty five minutes. 551 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: It wasn't the back and forth of that. But I 552 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 5: don't know. Sitting in a hotel room watching this thing 553 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 5: on my cellular telephone, you know, I thought this was 554 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: like the greatest fight I'd ever seen. 555 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 3: I don't know. 556 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 5: I thought it was unbelievable to watch the back and 557 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 5: forth that second round. I have so much respect for 558 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 5: Tye and defeat what he have for us. On the 559 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: main event, Raymond Man. 560 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 8: Just a technical masterpiece. 561 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 562 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 9: And I mean he did get dropped, so without everything 563 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 9: you want in to fight, right, the guy's doing good, 564 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 9: then he gets dropped, gets right back up, he comes back, 565 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 9: he wins the fight. But I mean it's the teeth 566 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 9: kicks and the jib just dictated that fight, and it 567 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 9: does those teeth kicks the way he throws them to 568 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 9: the solar plexus and then he was hitting the limic kicks. 569 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 9: I mean, he just wrecked that guy's mid section. He 570 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 9: occupied him, he mesmerized him with the jib, and he 571 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 9: crushed him with those kicks to the mid section. And 572 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 9: that's the story of the fight against a guy that 573 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 9: could take a beating. 574 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 8: He yet down. 575 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 9: Man, he broke him down, and he's gonna break a 576 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 9: lot of people down because he's hard to get to. 577 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 9: And now you know, I think they even getting dropped 578 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 9: to help him moving on to the future. He knows 579 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 9: he could come back against a huge puncher that puts 580 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 9: people down. 581 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 8: He came back. 582 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 9: So I think he shows everything you want to fight. 583 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 9: And for a guy that big to move like that, 584 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 9: so beautiful and elegantly and just the gracefulness, and you 585 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 9: know he's in and out for a big guy, he 586 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 9: looked great. He looked great against the guy that. 587 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 8: Was on a good role. 588 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 5: So, yeah, you hit on a lot of good things there, 589 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 5: as you often do. Yeah, this win has got to 590 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 5: be a huge confidence builder to fight a puncher like that, 591 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 5: to take his best shot and to ultimately put him 592 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 5: away like that. You remember the worst kick that either 593 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 5: of you guys took Teep to the solar plexus or 594 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: the spleen or the liver. I mean sounds like a 595 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: lot of fun. Teo Gan should change his nickname from 596 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: Bongama to the organ hunter, you know. I mean, this 597 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: dude is just targeting Organs ken Flier. You remember the 598 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 5: worst one you took to the Boddy. 599 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 3: I actually never got hit ever, know really what it's like. No, 600 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 3: I remember I took a knee. I remember taking a 601 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 3: knee and uh like almost wanting to go down. I'm like, 602 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: I can't go down for a body shot. But that 603 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: was sparing, I don't. I never ate a body shot 604 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: in a fight, thankfully, But yeah, man, I don't know. 605 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: But they're not fun. They're not fun. I always try 606 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: to hurt people to the body, you know. I've seen 607 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: guys get dropped all the time in training and stuff 608 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 3: like that. But in a fight, it's a horror. It's 609 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: a horrible feeling. Man, Just your whole body shuts down. 610 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: You. 611 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: You want to keep fighting, but you just you get 612 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: folded like a lawn chair, and that you know, anytime 613 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: you look, you want to look into your own asshole. 614 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: That's never a good thing, right You ever recall taking 615 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: you had to have taken. 616 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 8: I can tell you one thing. I never wanted to 617 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 8: look into my asshole. I did. 618 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 9: I never did, and I really always try not stop 619 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 9: stop other people too from looking at Nick. I really 620 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 9: as a human being, I feel obviously it's not right. 621 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 9: It's not Nobody goes near my asshole. 622 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 3: I don't know why, but it's just it's not normal. 623 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: It's not normal. 624 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 9: I couldn't do that to anybody, even my worst enemy. 625 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 9: I'd have to say, no, please, don't do that. You're 626 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 9: not gonna it's not gonna be good. No Anny, I 627 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 9: think Kenny, I think he just went and looked in 628 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 9: your own assholes. 629 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: He buckled me with it. 630 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 8: I've never been. I've never been even in falling hurt 631 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 8: to the body. 632 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 9: I mean the worst kick I took was to the 633 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 9: Adams Apple and that thing was that stopped me in 634 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 9: my tracks. Oh yeah, that was that was That was 635 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 9: one of the ship feelings. I haven't had my body. 636 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 9: I used to like to even ten people hit me 637 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 9: in the body so it would open up their head, 638 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 9: you know. But uh yeah, I never felt that. Thank God. 639 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: Because well, I will say one thing, and we talk 640 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 5: a lot about Longo's greatness on this show, and it 641 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 5: is incredible. It really, truly is incredible to have three 642 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 5: different undisputed UFC champions from three different eras to be 643 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 5: able to lay claim to wins over Anderson Silva and 644 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 5: Jose Aldo and all of these legends George Saint Pierre 645 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 5: that you guys have, you know, effectively left in your wake, 646 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 5: but the sacrifice that you have made with your body, 647 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 5: and I'm hoping you'll share this story just a little 648 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 5: bit right Like Forray right now at you know whatever age, 649 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: like fifty two, fifty three years old, whatever he is 650 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 5: right now, Like, yeah, but he's just been kicked to hell. 651 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 5: And at one point back in the day you were 652 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 5: in Las Vegas. I believe there was some sort of 653 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 5: ultimate fight or trya and correct me if I'm wrong, 654 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 5: but you ended up having to you know, absorb and 655 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 5: hold pads for hours on end, and it beats you 656 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 5: up pretty good. Can you tell that story to our audience? 657 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: Uh, that's part of it. 658 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 8: Well, that that happened. 659 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 9: I used to like when the guys from Spike told 660 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 9: it because it wasn't me talking. But there's still a 661 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 9: couple of people from Spike that was in Manhattan. I 662 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 9: went in and was Matt was fighting Carol Feizi, and 663 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 9: he goes, you want to come with me tomorrow. You know, 664 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 9: we're gonna do a little promo for the Parisian Fight. 665 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 9: And I said, yeah, right, what time because I'll pick 666 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 9: you up at like five thirty in the morning. So 667 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 9: not just I want to you guys know me now, 668 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 9: so you've been tell even back then if I was 669 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 9: getting up at nine, that would be so fighting gets 670 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 9: me in the car and then we get down there. 671 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 9: They're also doing the tryouts for season two. Sodan is like, 672 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 9: oh man, we have nobody nowhere at Henzo Gracie's academy. 673 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 9: And He's like, we have nobody to hold PIDs. And 674 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 9: now it's probably six thirty in the morning. Matt goes 675 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 9: a long holder. He just time, no Penny, Henzo's at 676 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 9: the time. This, I swear to god, I don't want 677 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 9: I really would like somebody else to tell the story. 678 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 9: But Henzo's at the time was a Jiu jitsum school, 679 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 9: so they ain't a fucking typepad hop scene. So they 680 00:31:54,040 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 9: find the shittiest fucking two type heads ever want wear 681 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 9: the belt crow. I want to say, it's almost reversed, 682 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 9: so you know the sticky cawt penny that's on. 683 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 8: My fore arms. This isn't even a joke, right, So 684 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 8: now I go like this. I remember who the hell 685 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 8: was there? Somebody else was there. 686 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 9: I think it was Tom Defasio, and it's got to 687 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 9: be like a hundred guys, and I'm just in the ring, 688 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 9: going and going, and I remember Rachel Leo was there, 689 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 9: and I think Dana sent her over. She comes up, 690 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 9: she goes. Dana said, he'll pay anything you want. I mean, 691 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 9: I'm taking a fucking beating, got hit the ball. Somebody's 692 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 9: pumping me full of gatorade in between rounds, and out 693 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 9: that belt crow on my arms actually caused. 694 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 8: Like the scraping. 695 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 9: By the time I was done, I had like third 696 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 9: degree burns on my arms. I had to get like 697 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 9: the doctor prescribed like special cream I think or whatever. 698 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 8: But it was Kenny. It was about an hour and 699 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 8: a half straight. 700 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: It was of guys who probably fifty sixty percent them 701 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: didn't even know how to strike. And you're just even. 702 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 8: Couldn't even hit the pant I got hit in the 703 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 8: head more than I got. 704 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: That. 705 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 9: You know, Kenny, a fucking ass beating. So there's a 706 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 9: guy I can't think of a guy's name. I think 707 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 9: Schwartz was his name. It was from Spike from Yeah 708 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 9: nice guy, right. 709 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 8: Yeah. 710 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 9: He would tell people when they when they met, that's 711 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 9: the toughest motherfucker I haven't met in my life. 712 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 8: I mean, dude, it was. That might have been the 713 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 8: worst thing I ever did. 714 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 9: It was non stop and and he says, John, you're 715 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 9: talking about guys that are getting on the show. 716 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 8: They suck. So you got to think of the sixty 717 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 8: guys that don't get on the show. How bad. 718 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: I know you're a man. 719 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 8: I was out for a while with that. 720 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: Did you at least get a check? Did they give 721 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 3: you to the hook you up with something? He's not 722 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: going to comment on that part. 723 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 9: Do you bring that up there, Ken, because you check 724 00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 9: that check never made it? Well, this was this was 725 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 9: at a point you got it. 726 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: You got a really nice doctor's bill though. 727 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 8: That was yeah, doctor doctor Sherry saved me. 728 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: Man. 729 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 8: She was she was she was pissed when she looked 730 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 8: at my arms and she goes, that's that's bad. 731 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 4: Like it was bad. 732 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 9: And then uh, but that was at a point where 733 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 9: they were losing money. Still, they still weren't making money. 734 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,959 Speaker 9: So I should give them for the lack of the check. 735 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 9: But uh Rachel Lee at the theme, she goes name, 736 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 9: you're pro like it was bad, Like anybody looking was like, 737 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 9: this is what the fuck is the guy doing? 738 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 8: It was horrible. 739 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wanted you to tell that story because you've 740 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 5: made bodily sacrificing. 741 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 3: No, you are one tough mother effort. 742 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 5: You know, even if you don't like New Yorkers, you 743 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 5: gotta at least respect Loongo folks. 744 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: You know, even if you don't like New Yorkers. 745 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 8: Right, who doesn't like New Yorkers? What are we talking about? 746 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 5: Bostonians excited for the NFL football season or are we 747 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 5: still in this NFL? 748 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: Boy? 749 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 8: Don't even know what exists? 750 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: All right. 751 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 8: I like to get back into it though, but I 752 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 8: doubt it. 753 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 5: Laughter, Oh, American football, baby, American football, Robert Whitaker, What 754 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 5: do you have for us? 755 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 7: On? 756 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: Uh? 757 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 8: On? 758 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 3: Bob Knuckles? 759 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 9: Real simple, another tactical masterpiece. Here's the here's the thing 760 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 9: on that fight. He was one step ahead of him 761 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 9: the whole fight. He read everything that was coming. The 762 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 9: other guy had no clue as to what was going on. 763 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 9: Well he could, he just can't, you know, I think 764 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 9: with Vittori, I don't. I don't know him at all, 765 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 9: but you could see there were fights where he clearly 766 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 9: lost that he thought he won. So I think he's 767 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 9: that guy who's hard to you know, he must be 768 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 9: hard to change, because he made no adjustments on the 769 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 9: fly in this fight at all. If anything, had just 770 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 9: got worse and worse and worse, and he's gotta he's 771 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 9: got to send a blockhead so he could take the punishment. 772 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 773 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 8: But man, Whitker was just a step ahead. You could 774 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 8: see he was reading everything that guy was throwing. Period. 775 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 9: I don't, I don't know how I was do it 776 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 9: to describe to fight. And you know the fact that 777 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 9: the other guy could take it even made it, you know, 778 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 9: kind of better. He got good working. But nothing, No, 779 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 9: there were just no adjustments made at all. 780 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevlo, what you laughing about? Off the top? 781 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: There? Can you tell me about about the race story? 782 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 3: It's just I'm just done, Yeah, I just I'm seeing 783 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 3: Ray just getting knocked around. 784 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 9: I'm telling you, Kenny, there was one guy said I 785 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 9: held the pants wrong because I didn't want to get 786 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 9: him on the show like he was so bad. 787 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I could I could come up with another 788 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 8: ten story. I'm not. 789 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 6: I I just know and I could just visualize. It's 790 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 6: the worst position to be it. I mean, it's horrible. 791 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 9: But again, Kenny, now with six thirty in the morning, 792 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 9: so think about that. I am completely shot. 793 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:03,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, shot right right? Uh No, I thought looked great. 794 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 3: You know. 795 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 9: Unfortunately, his problem is gonna be he'll probably never be 796 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 9: able to get by Adisania. So I think for him, 797 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 9: the best thing that could happen is Pereira beats Asania 798 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 9: creates the interest for Whitty could have jumped in there. Again, 799 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 9: I think for everybody, for the organization and you know, 800 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 9: for pay per view by something like that. But uh, 801 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 9: Whittaker just looked great. He looked really great against you know, 802 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 9: a guy that's ranked right up in the top five. 803 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 5: I would be stunned if Putta beats out of Sonia 804 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 5: and doesn't have to beat him again, you know. I mean, 805 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 5: maybe the calendar would aligned where Whittaker could somehow slide 806 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 5: in there. But I just feel like Ifa beats he is, 807 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 5: he's getting another crack at him. 808 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 9: But uh, I'm just saying for for for Whittaka, that's 809 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 9: gotta be what he's pulling for instead of winning again, 810 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 9: the chances of him going back in there even though 811 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 9: that last fight was close. Uh, you know, the UFC 812 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 9: is now in the conundrum with all these you know, 813 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 9: like Garado and the Moraino. 814 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 8: I didn't think that. 815 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 5: Last flight was as close as as some did between 816 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 5: Whittaker and a SIGNI with respect, but that's yeah. 817 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 8: I mean, I honestly, I don't even know. 818 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 5: I'm telling you though, Like my dream fight for two 819 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 5: years now has been Hamzacchimia versus Kolby Comington, and am 820 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 5: I crazy? Like Whittaker Costa might might be my new 821 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 5: dream fight? Like I love that fight, Polo Costa and 822 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,959 Speaker 5: Robert Whitaker, They've never fought before. 823 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 3: What am I missing? No, No, you don't share my enthusiasm. 824 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 8: Right, No, Whitaker wins that fight easy. 825 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 5: Well, that's fine, but he's it's not like he's more 826 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 5: than minus two hundred against Costa maybe long ago sportsbook. 827 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 5: I'm taking a bath. Like if my wife, no, no, John, 828 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 5: I'm gonna agree with you. Were one thing, if we 829 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 5: could guarantee to see the the Paulo Costa, that fort 830 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 5: like Romero and Uriah hole one hundred percent. I just 831 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 5: think he's unreliable. You're not sure what you're getting. 832 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, you know. 833 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 9: I mean the guy just stood in front of a 834 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 9: guy that had his hands on his knees. He was 835 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 9: completely out of breath, and he couldn't take advantage of that. 836 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 9: This guy beat Who the fuck is this guy? 837 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: No? 838 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 8: No, I actually you know what he's wait, I take 839 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 8: that fact though. He's actually a nice guy. I hope 840 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 8: I'm not. 841 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 2: I'm not. 842 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 8: A He's not a bad guy at all. 843 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 5: I'm going to tell him that Longo is one of 844 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 5: his defenders. See what he says. You know, I actually 845 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 5: think Paulo Costa is more handsome than a primary long ago. 846 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 5: And that's saying something because you're you were more handsome 847 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 5: than most men. 848 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 8: In your No, he's a supermodel. 849 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 5: No, but he's a he's a super model. Like he's 850 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 5: a great guy. 851 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 9: He's a really good guy. I'm not I'm just looking 852 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 9: to make a couple of jokes. 853 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: No, of course, I know retreating. You know, I'll tell 854 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 3: you back to New York. 855 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 8: You know whose mother is in love with Paulo Costa? 856 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 5: Bruce Buff first mom, Connie, damn, correct, right on, that's 857 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 5: my guy. 858 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 9: Buff a Costa did a video for Bruce's mother. I 859 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 9: was there, That's what I said, Yeah, what was. 860 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 3: It for bru? It was was it Bruce or Bruce's mom? 861 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 3: It was we were at uh you know what, I'm 862 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 3: not going to tell that story right now. You know what, 863 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 3: I'll do it. 864 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 5: We were I might have done this before. We're at 865 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 5: long Ago. Why I'm in m m A a few 866 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 5: weeks ago after the long Islan show, and Buff's trying 867 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 5: to give long Ago like this video. I probably told 868 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 5: this story before, and Ray He's like, no, I'm good, 869 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 5: you know, thank you, Bruce. But it's okay, like we're 870 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 5: just hanging out. Buff's like, no, you know, I'll give 871 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 5: you a free video right now, like you promote your jam. 872 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 5: And he's like, no, I'm good, you know, thank you though, 873 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 5: Bruce bump uh. And then finally he said the third time, 874 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 5: I was like, all right, man, you know, I'll take 875 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 5: the video. 876 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 3: Cody was there. That's my. 877 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 8: It's still going to go back. Kenny. I wish you 878 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 8: were there. We had a great time. 879 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: Well, I wish I was there for that. 880 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 7: Man. 881 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 9: That's the best Bruce Buffer I've seen. This guy was unbelievable. 882 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 9: What a what a gracious guy, even at the restaurant. 883 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 9: I mean, I've seen a different side of him. I 884 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 9: love the guy, I really don't. That's a great guy. 885 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 9: He he handled that crowd like the true professional that 886 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 9: he is. And I'll tell you when he makes those 887 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 9: videos off the cup, the guy doesn't skip a beat. 888 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 5: I didn't want to tell you career earnings on cameo 889 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 5: for Bruce Buffer. I mean, the guy is an absolute machine. 890 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 5: Go to cameo dot com. If you hear Bruce Buffer 891 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,439 Speaker 5: to give you a happy birthday or wedding, give. 892 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 8: Me, give me an approximation. 893 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. 894 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 7: Uh. 895 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 3: Ken Fall and I are on cameo as well, and 896 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 3: we are we are if you so desire. 897 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 5: Not the best career earnings, but not a great number 898 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 5: were there, I tell you, though, it means a lot, right, 899 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 5: Like I just got one from some dude, one of 900 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 5: three sons trying to wish their dad a happy Father's 901 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 5: in Australia. Buff was probably too expensive, like we'll just 902 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,959 Speaker 5: get Annik for this, you know, but no, it's cool 903 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 5: when like, you know, you feel like on Father's Day 904 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 5: they give their data gift and it's like you wishing 905 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 5: the guy a happy birthday. It's a cool thing, you know, 906 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 5: or a happy father's day. I guess all right, Ray 907 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 5: a few more minutes with you. I would like to 908 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 5: talk to you about the the pay per view in 909 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 5: Las Vegas coming up this weekend. The main event is 910 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 5: Kamzat Chimayev and Nate Diaz. Now, the betting line has 911 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 5: bounced around depending on where you place your bets. Nate 912 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 5: Diaz has been seen as high as plus nine forty 913 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 5: in some spots against Kamzat chimaya Right now, COM's not 914 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 5: minus eleven fifty seven fifty. That's the number that I'm 915 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 5: going with for our program today. What are your thoughts 916 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 5: on the main event? And if you had to give 917 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 5: a percentage as to what percent chance do you give 918 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 5: Nate Diz to bring the upset? 919 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 3: Where would you fall on that? 920 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 8: Well? If I had to give what repeat that. 921 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 5: Ances do you give Nathiez to win? Because the betting 922 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 5: odds suggests that it's less than ten percent, and I don't. 923 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 3: Agree with that. 924 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 9: I listen, I think nath Diez is always in the fight, 925 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 9: you know, even even losing four rounds to Leon Edwards, 926 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 9: he clips him at the end. He's got the guy 927 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 9: on ice skates. He could always get you, so he's 928 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 9: never out of the fight. He's got, you know, a 929 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 9: great defense of jiu jitsu. I don't think he'll get 930 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 9: beat up on the floor. It's just I just think 931 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 9: stylistically it's not a good matchup for him. But I 932 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 9: love nath Diez. I'll be definitely pulling for him. But 933 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 9: I think Nate has to hope that he kind of 934 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 9: makes the same mistakes he made with Burns. He was 935 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 9: just too willing to you know, not mix it up, 936 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 9: stand up with him, or maybe you know, it's a 937 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 9: five round fight, maybe Nate to gas amount and maybe 938 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 9: do something in the later rounds. I mean that's a possibility. 939 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 9: But uh, I think Nate's Achilles peel was always the takedowns, 940 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 9: and you know, you can't win fight. So if you're back, 941 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 9: unless you know the scoring has changed and you could 942 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 9: do some damage, I don't know, I don't know, but 943 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 9: I'm pulling for Nate either way. Yeah, but those odds 944 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 9: are crazy. 945 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, right now on Draft Kings 946 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 5: Sportsbook night is down to plus six seventy five, right, 947 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 5: So that shows you some of the movement, but it's 948 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 5: been bouncing around. 949 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: You know. 950 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 5: My twin brother called me and he's like, dude, I 951 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 5: see DS plus nine to forty now comsat Chimi have 952 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 5: is the best prospect I've ever seen in MMA, essentially, 953 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 5: or at least certainly in my time with the UFC. 954 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 955 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 5: It's a huge number next to a guy who's fought 956 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 5: twenty six times in there. Right, we gotta go. Thanks 957 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 5: for the time on a Monday night. When are you 958 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 5: next out of here? No contennis series this week? Huh 959 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 5: oh that was quick. 960 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 8: Huh Holy Jesus man, jem you just to me with 961 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 8: fifteen things in two seconds. 962 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 7: I know. 963 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 5: And people think I'm all like hooped up on cocaine 964 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 5: or adderall, and it's not that at all. It's that 965 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 5: I'm underslept, you know, a little bit hungover. I drove 966 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 5: six hours today, you know, but yeah, I'm a little bit. 967 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 5: I'm like a big all over the place. 968 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 3: Like d C. It's been a few minutes with me 969 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: and my twin brother. 970 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 8: He was like, you guys giving me anxiety. You slow down, dude. 971 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 5: I play golf with DC and my twin brother and 972 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 5: he's like, you. What's going wrong with you? 973 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 9: You're not making a good casement not being on cocaine 974 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 9: right now because they think he's on cocaine and Admiral 975 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 9: they couldn't be further from the truth. 976 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 8: He's on. 977 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 3: Are you all right? 978 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 8: Can you take a deep breath? 979 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 3: Do you? 980 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 8: Can you do your box breathing right now? The box breathing? 981 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel better, know, yeah, I feel 982 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 3: a lot better. 983 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 8: Take a sedative and let's get back to the show. 984 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 3: I think I was just trying to outro you. Is 985 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 3: that what was going on? 986 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 8: That was the that was the most anxious autroy. I 987 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 8: don't even know where we left off. Anyway. 988 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 9: Listen, I'm heading to the Ring of Combat this weekend, 989 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 9: the Managers fighting and Mondo Gate. 990 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 3: Let's go Steve, Come on, Steve Lee. 991 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 8: When is Steve Lee Mighty Friday Night? I expect you 992 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 8: to be watching from Vegas? 993 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 5: Uh okay, all right, see Lee, let's go get it 994 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 5: down for the podcast one. 995 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 8: Of our missing anything else. I think that's it. I 996 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 8: don't even know. 997 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 5: All right, buddy, Well, have a great day at a 998 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 5: better evening and we will talk to you next week. 999 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 5: All right, all right, guys, have a good rank your 1000 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 5: two brother there. He is the Ray Longgo mintute every 1001 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 5: week here on the Anak and Florian Podcast. Yeah, my 1002 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 5: brain is going in a million fucking directions. 1003 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 3: Right, you got energy. That's good. 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What's the good word? 1034 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 8: Nothing? 1035 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 4: Good word to you boys, Johnny. I saw you at 1036 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 4: Brian Stand's wedding. Looked like a blast, very justous. I'm 1037 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 4: a big wedding guy, don't. I don't drink often. When 1038 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 4: I do, it's at a wedding and then my wife 1039 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 4: has to carry me out the dance floor. So it's 1040 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 4: a good time. So yeah, I'm ready to get in 1041 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 4: these fights. I'm excited. 1042 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 3: Man. 1043 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 5: Well, if ken Flow or I ever renew our vals, 1044 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 5: you're going to be a part of that fisted I'm 1045 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 5: not inclined to do that necessarily, but it's interesting, right 1046 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 5: because I did post a lot of Brian's stand content 1047 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 5: over the weekend and somebody commented on my Instagram and 1048 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 5: said like, hey, is this like a Brian stan account now? 1049 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 5: Like geez man, you know, and it's like it all 1050 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 5: comes from a good place, like But Brian obviously has 1051 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 5: a very special relationship with a lot of his former 1052 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 5: Jackson Wink fighters and a lot of the MMA masses, 1053 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 5: as ken Flow does, right, and so I really do 1054 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 5: it to sort of shine some love on him and 1055 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 5: allow some of those people maybe who have been out 1056 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 5: of his life to to you know, see him try 1057 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 5: to reconnect them. So that's the reason for all of that. 1058 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 5: And uh, you know, as long as the Briden Grumer 1059 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 5: okay with it, that's really all. Yeah, all right, So 1060 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 5: before we make these picks, Bray, if you have sixty 1061 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 5: seconds for us on anything that happened in Paris, I 1062 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 5: mean just a sensational live event and uh, it's just amazing. 1063 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 5: When you set the table, you go to France for 1064 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 5: the first time, and you hope that it'll play out 1065 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 5: like this, right, And they certainly could have gone with 1066 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 5: Tommy Aspinall against ty Tooyvasa. That was as Aspinall's wish, 1067 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 5: they go with this gone to EVASA fight and matchmaking 1068 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 5: certainly worked out. 1069 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1070 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 4: I mean, as MMA fans were spoiled sometimes and we 1071 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 4: shit a lot of times on maybe a lackluster main event, 1072 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 4: and especially a lackluster heavyweight man event, because you expect 1073 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 4: heavyweights to just banging out over in the first round. 1074 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 4: It goes five round, sometimes it can be a dry 1075 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 4: That was an amazing fight. God looked on point, he 1076 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 4: looked aggressively, fought smart, tied to of Aasa is an 1077 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 4: absolute fucking savage. I knew he was tough. I didn't 1078 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 4: know he was that tough. He took some big shots, 1079 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 4: he got head kicked, and I think I don't know, oh, 1080 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 4: I think he like fake wobbled kind of Derek Lewis 1081 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 4: and then through some haymakers. I mean I was on 1082 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 4: the edge of my seat. 1083 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 3: I loved it. 1084 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 4: I had tie or excuse me, I had gone by 1085 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 4: third round finish as well, so it all worked out 1086 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 4: for me. 1087 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 3: As well. 1088 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 4: So with my green colored glasses, I was happy as 1089 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 4: an MMA fan. I was happy as well. 1090 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, big big night for the USC, but we got 1091 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 5: to transition to the pay per view boys at Beckins 1092 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 5: here in a few days and likely an electric way, 1093 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 5: I would think to kick off the main cod Light 1094 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 5: Heavyweight Ewan kote Laba minus one eighty, I need reading glasses. 1095 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 5: Johnny Walker Blue is plus one point fifty. So Walker 1096 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 5: coming back here BP after main event losses to Thiago 1097 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 5: Santos and then more recently Jamal Hill now finds himself 1098 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 5: as the dog to Ewan kute Laba, trying to sort 1099 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 5: of rebuild himself. Your thoughts on Johnny Walker in the 1100 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,240 Speaker 5: role of underdog this weekend. 1101 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't miss many events, and I could have 1102 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 4: swore these guys fought. It seems like they'd fight. I 1103 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 4: had to look back a word. 1104 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 3: What's going on? 1105 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 4: Walker's been on a bit of a skid. You know, 1106 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 4: he's bounced around camps. I believe he settled in Ireland. 1107 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 4: I know he's like he's marrying an Irish lady. So 1108 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's but he's back. He's back 1109 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 4: and forth, and I'm really worried about his confidence because 1110 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 4: he got knocked out bad his last time I go 1111 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 4: in a small hill. I mean that was as clean 1112 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 4: as they come. And uh, you know, so I'm worried 1113 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 4: about where it's confidence because where's this explosive guy at 1114 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 4: where's this guy that entered the UFC was a putting 1115 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 4: everyone out? And to Cutlaba, who I broke down before. 1116 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 4: He's an absolute fucking wild man. Eats nails for breakfast. 1117 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 4: He'll fistfight anyone that drinks like beer. 1118 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 6: I mean, this guy is intense, iron stand like bud Light, 1119 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 6: but like Butler, aren't like just give me anything, but 1120 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 6: but l like Brian. 1121 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,879 Speaker 4: And standing and only drink mimosas. And I'd be cool 1122 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,479 Speaker 4: with it because of what he's done in this world. 1123 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if you'd like a protein snack 1124 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 5: potentially with your beer. 1125 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 4: I don't know absolutely, but but Asa is a wild man. 1126 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 4: He's also inconsistent one three and one in his last 1127 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 4: uh last five, and he's trying to really rebound. He's 1128 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 4: trying to figure out what he is and striker am 1129 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 4: I not? He's looking for the ground game. He's strong, 1130 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 4: he's aggressive in there to Devin Clark fight. 1131 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 7: He look mean. 1132 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 4: Walker is massive for light heavyweight, and I think that's 1133 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 4: one of his problems. I mean for having a bad 1134 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 4: chin right now, because the chin is suspect. I think 1135 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 4: that weight cut his problem. I like to see him 1136 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 4: go up to heavyweight. He's fucking six six for crying 1137 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 4: out loud. Go up to heavyweight. But as exposive as 1138 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 4: Walker is, and I wish the number was better on 1139 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,919 Speaker 4: Johnny Walker here, I'm gonna play it safe. I'm gonna 1140 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 4: go Kutzlaba, and I actually like the over. I think 1141 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 4: kut Lava is gonna make this a boring fight, take 1142 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 4: him to the ground where Johnny's weak and right out 1143 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 4: of the decision here all right. 1144 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 5: Coote Laba, good Sambo guy. Thirteenth UFC appearance, coming off 1145 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 5: a quick loss to Ryan's span by submission. Earlier this year, 1146 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 5: Kenny the Hulks fought a really good schedule Glover to 1147 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 5: Shriff Maga mat Ankalaya a couple of times. Eric Nixon 1148 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 5: now the chief voice in his corner. Your thoughts on 1149 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 5: kote Laba the favorite here against Johnny Walker. 1150 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 3: Black Lava is very tough, you know he's I think 1151 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 3: he's not gonna be threatened from Johnny Walker as far 1152 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 3: as you know a ground game or or anything like that. 1153 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 3: I think that more than anything else, Johnny Walker, it 1154 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 3: can be very explosive. He can be dangerous. I think 1155 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 3: that's where we saw him early on. There was a 1156 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 3: lot of flash, there was a lot of pizaz, but 1157 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 3: there was no substance to his game, and we're seeing 1158 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 3: that over and over again. He's a guy who's very 1159 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,320 Speaker 3: physically gifted, but as far as technical skills, the foundation, 1160 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 3: the basics of his game is just not good. And 1161 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 3: he's got to get that much much Sharper, I don't 1162 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 3: see that happening. He stands very up upright with his 1163 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 3: chin up in the air. Not a good thing to 1164 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 3: have against someone like Kutzalaba, you know. Not to say 1165 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 3: Kutzlaba is going to finish him for sure, the way 1166 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 3: that they fight, I'd be surprised if this goes the distance. 1167 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 3: If it does, I still think Kutzlaba is the favorite here. 1168 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 3: So I'm sticking with with Kutzalaba, all right. 1169 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 5: Next up on the UFC two seventy nine pay per 1170 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 5: view main card, Sneaky Huge fight here. Boys in the 1171 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 5: Women's bandon weight division a rein A aldonamnus two hundred 1172 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 5: may see ShaSS On plus one seventy. Shassan has won 1173 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 5: three of four, positioning herself for a pretty big fight 1174 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 5: here against someone in the division's top five. I believe 1175 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 5: al Donna is in the top five. She has only 1176 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 5: fought once in the last twenty two months or so. 1177 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 5: Bro Perhaps that gives some people some pause, but certainly 1178 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 5: her knockout of Kaitlyn Viada continues to age quite well. 1179 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 5: Your thoughts on Aldonna here about two to one over 1180 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 5: Macy Shassan. 1181 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Mason coming off the olden fighter as 1182 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 4: we high on her, and I feel like she's just 1183 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 4: kind of like kind of stayed in the middle. I 1184 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 4: think this is a huge fight for but I'm all 1185 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 4: over a Donna in this. 1186 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,439 Speaker 3: I like the number. 1187 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 4: I thought the number would be higher here. I think 1188 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 4: she's better on the feet. I think she's good off 1189 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 4: her back if Macy wants to get into the ground. 1190 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 4: Adonna's really big turning point was that submission over Beth Career, 1191 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 4: because he started UFC career zero to two Armbard. Beth 1192 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 4: Creyer had a really close fight with Rachel Pennington and 1193 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 4: has gone on a nice litt run like you mentioned 1194 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 4: Kao Kaitlyn Vierre, which is no easy task. T K 1195 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 4: Dana Kuzakaya, who's also a very good fighter as well. 1196 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 4: That was her last time year. 1197 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 5: You are having fun with these names today, aren't you. 1198 00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 2: Did? 1199 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 3: I know how about that? I mean you're doing okay? 1200 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 4: I mean anyway, hey, listen, I thought I was in 1201 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 4: the pocket with Kaya. 1202 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes I love it because a little bit quickly, you know, 1203 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 3: all right, if it's a name. 1204 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, that's why money even trying to pronounce. 1205 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:23,240 Speaker 3: Macy's calling Kaitlyn Caitlin, and that's okay. 1206 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 4: I like al Donna here. Thank you John for for 1207 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 4: for making fun of my marbles, my mouth and my pronunciations. 1208 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,720 Speaker 4: I do like a Dona here. I think she wins 1209 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 4: by by knockout. I think she's mean too, she's meaning there. 1210 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 4: I like a finish by al Donna. I'm gonna play 1211 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 4: her by finished by ko and I'm gonna play by 1212 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 4: the number. The number didn't scare me, even though it 1213 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 4: was two. 1214 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 3: To one Patreon deterred. 1215 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 5: Al Donna lost to Holly Holm in a main event 1216 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 5: that was October of twenty twenty Fight Island. She stopped 1217 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 5: Yanna Kunitska at UFC two sixty four. That was July 1218 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 5: of twenty twenty one. Has been more than a year 1219 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 5: for al Donna Shassan coming on up Ken flow your 1220 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 5: thoughts on this one of one thirty. You know, I 1221 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 5: think al Donna is a very good striker, you know. 1222 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 5: I think the way that she moves her feet, she 1223 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 5: can counter strike, she gets a mangle, she hits very 1224 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 5: hard when she's sitting down on her punches and shas on. 1225 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 5: I think has got a lot of different skills, and 1226 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 5: she's a smart fighter, you know. I think that I 1227 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 5: don't know. 1228 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 3: I would have liked to see and maybe this is 1229 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 3: where BP was going, but I would like to see 1230 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 3: more development in her game. I thought she had a 1231 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 3: lot of potential. I still think she does. I like 1232 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 3: to see her add on to those skills a little 1233 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 3: bit more. I still think at times she doesn't let 1234 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 3: her hands go when she should. You know, very physically gifted, tall, 1235 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 3: lanky for the division. Al Donna is as well. But 1236 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 3: you know, I think that al Donna's just a little 1237 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 3: bit too clean of a striker. I think I don't 1238 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 3: know if she's going to get the KO win, but 1239 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 3: I think she'll know how to win rounds and win 1240 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 3: this here against jas On. Next up. 1241 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 5: A recent addition to the UFC two seventy nine lineup 1242 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 5: Kevin Holland minus one ninety Daniel Rodriguez plus one sixty Ryan. 1243 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 5: This went to be contested at a catchweight of one 1244 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 5: hundred and eighty pounds. Your thoughts, Yeah, I love that 1245 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 5: they added this to beef up the card. The card was, 1246 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 5: you know, depending on the main event, and they added 1247 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 5: two really good fights. 1248 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 3: This is one of them. 1249 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 4: I love Kevin Holland at one seventy and this is 1250 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 4: a catchway, but really he's fighting another one seventy and 1251 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 4: Dee Rod's a beast dude. Dee Rod could be on 1252 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 4: a thirteen fight win streak. 1253 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 3: I thought he won the. 1254 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 4: Dolby fight, but you know, it is what it is. 1255 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 4: He's six to one in the UFC and he's proven 1256 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 4: to be pretty well rounded. He can he can take 1257 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 4: your neck, he can submit you, really good boxing in 1258 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 4: the pocket. Tough, durable dude as well, great record overall, 1259 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 4: and I think he's a good, good fighter. Problem is, 1260 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 4: I think Kevin Holland is a special fighter at one 1261 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 4: seventy and I'm putting a special stamp on him. 1262 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's looked great in his first. 1263 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 4: Two UFC fights at one seventy start a little bit slow, 1264 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 4: took him while to get there, but he's an absolute 1265 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 4: sniper when he finds it. And you know he's this 1266 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 4: a little under, he's a little I can't even think 1267 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 4: of the word now in distract. Now I they're gonna 1268 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 4: mispronounced it. Get dog doun, Here we go. Kevin Holland 1269 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 4: is a sniper. I think people maybe sleep on his 1270 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 4: power a little bit. Even though he knocks people out. 1271 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 4: He's knocked people out eighty five. He's finished both these 1272 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 4: guys at two o five. He's also good on the ground. 1273 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 4: Both these guys coming on short notice. No one's gonna 1274 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 4: wan wrestle. That's the big knock on Kevin Holland. Oh 1275 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 4: you can't take them. You can take him down. 1276 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 8: He can wrestle. 1277 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 4: Muse he went through that skin at one ninty five. 1278 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 4: But NEI of these guys are wrestlers. They're taking a 1279 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 4: fight on two weeks notice. They're not gonna waste that energy. 1280 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 8: They're gonna go in there. 1281 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 4: They're gonna bang it out. I think Danil Rodriguez might 1282 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 4: have more of the technical boxing. He's a little smooth 1283 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 4: a straight punches are really nice. But Kevin Holland on 1284 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 4: the outside is just a problem. I don't know how 1285 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 4: Kevin Holland's gonna win. I don't have my finger on 1286 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 4: how this ends, but I do like Kevin Holland to win. 1287 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay by TKO, but uh, it very well 1288 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 4: could be a decision because Danielroriguez has never been finished, 1289 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 4: So gimme Kevin Hollan. 1290 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 3: Nicely done. 1291 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 5: Big guy d Rod has won three in a row, 1292 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 5: all in what was a perfect twenty twenty one for him. 1293 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 5: This will be his first start of the year. Holland Kenny, 1294 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 5: making his sixteenth UFC appearance in just over four years 1295 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 5: on the roster, certainly has been a workhorse for the 1296 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 5: UFC and two to zero with as many finishes for 1297 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 5: Holland thus far in twenty twenty two. Your thoughts on 1298 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 5: him here favored over Drod Daniel Rodriguez. 1299 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's one of those fights that are 1300 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 3: very interesting because Kevin has stayed very busy, and you 1301 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 3: wonder if he's not healthy, if he's not one hundred percent. 1302 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 3: You do not want to be in there with someone 1303 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 3: like a d rod who is going to be in 1304 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 3: your face. He's going to pressure you, he's going to 1305 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 3: back you up. I think there's a lot of value 1306 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 3: on Daniel Rodriguez right now, I really do. I think 1307 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,919 Speaker 3: he is a hard guy to put away. I think 1308 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 3: that similar to Kevin Holland, he's a guy that tends 1309 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 3: to heat up as the fight goes on. I think 1310 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,919 Speaker 3: that's going to be very interesting. I think he's fighting 1311 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 3: with a lot of confidence right now. He's very comfortable 1312 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 3: in the octagon right now. But who's the more technical fighter, 1313 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 3: who's the more capable fighter? I think Kevin Holland is, 1314 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 3: whether it's on the feet or on the ground. That's 1315 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 3: why I'm leaning towards Kevin Holland. I'm gonna pick Kevin 1316 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 3: Holland here. But I do think there's some serious value 1317 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 3: on d run. Nicely done, my man comin event now, guys. 1318 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 3: The Leech leeging lyon Modust two sixty Tony Ferguson plus 1319 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 3: two to twenty another fight that was added to UFC 1320 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 3: two seventy and I about three weeks ago. So the 1321 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 3: Leech responded beautifully to his loss to Kamzat Chimaya stoppage 1322 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 3: of Muslim Salakov that was July sixteenth on ABC. On 1323 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 3: the other side, Brian Ferguson moves up to welterweight and 1324 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 3: the former UFC Interim lightweight champion trying to get his 1325 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 3: first win since twenty nineteen when he best did Donald 1326 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 3: TRONI your thoughts on Ferguson here against the leech Lee 1327 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 3: JINGLEO Man. 1328 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 4: I have such mixed feelings on this fight because as 1329 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 4: Tony coming back to you guys talked about last week 1330 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 4: Tony but coming back too soon as he done? How's 1331 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 4: his chin well with all that worries aside? 1332 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 8: I like it. 1333 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 4: That's at one seventy and I think this is a 1334 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 4: good matchup for both guys. I want to comment. I 1335 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 4: want to commend Tony because I the last time I 1336 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 4: broke his fight down, I kind of shit it on 1337 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 4: his training camp a little bit the comments. 1338 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 8: Let me have it. 1339 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 4: He switched up. He went to Jackson's, and every coach 1340 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 4: that is at Jackson's is telling me is this guy's 1341 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 4: coach will be a work course. 1342 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 3: I think you need that. 1343 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 4: I think you need to go instead of running your 1344 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 4: own camps, you go to a Campway Jackson's if Greg 1345 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 4: Jackson's corner. I think Greg Jackson's such a great mind. 1346 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 4: Brandon Gibson, Mike Wingo, John On of those guys. But 1347 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 4: the least doesn't give a fuck out any of that. 1348 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 4: I mean, he don't care. 1349 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 3: I mean, the Leech is mean. 1350 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 4: I was surprised that he's been the USC since on fourteen. 1351 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 4: That is that's I mean, that's eight years. That's crazy. 1352 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 4: But he's thirty four now and this is his biggest 1353 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 4: fight in UOC, in my date, so I to date, 1354 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 4: So this is his time is now, especially at one seventy, 1355 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 4: being thirty four, being a pretty good size one seventy, 1356 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 4: I think the time is now, you know. And the 1357 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 4: Leech is a durable, tough dude. He's got a bigger 1358 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 4: chin than Drew Dober, He's got a Jay Lenno on 1359 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 4: his face. He's never been knocked out, but his weakness 1360 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 4: has been the ground, you know what I mean. He 1361 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 4: can get taken out and he's even to submit it. 1362 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 4: We've seen it before. 1363 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 3: Can Tony do that? 1364 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 4: Tony Is has a wrestling background, we haven't really seen 1365 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 4: it all that much lately. He likes to stand up 1366 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 4: and bral. But if you look at the Michael Chandler fight, 1367 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 4: he looked pretty good leading up to that fight and 1368 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 4: he got kicked. That front kick would knocked anybody out, 1369 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 4: but he looked fast. He looked quick. If that seeing 1370 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 4: Tony comes in here, it can be very interesting here. 1371 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 8: I like Tony. 1372 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 4: You know, he's really good offensive. Jitch, you listen. I 1373 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 4: need a dog. Though I'm not a chalk boy, I 1374 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 4: need a dog. So Tony at this number, I like, 1375 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna roll the dice thinking that he's there, but 1376 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 4: the leach can knock him out. The leech is big, 1377 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 4: big power. I like Tony. Give me Tony and add 1378 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 4: the submission to my card as well, which would be 1379 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 4: a nice number. So I think Tony by sub is 1380 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 4: the way to go here. 1381 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 5: Ferguson by submission is the pick for Brian Petri and 1382 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 5: Ken Flop probably eats that front caick. By the way, 1383 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 5: for the record, I Ken have been knocked out. 1384 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah he does. 1385 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 5: Uh so the Leech no matter what happens in his 1386 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 5: career from here, what a tremendous body of work. One 1387 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 5: of the more prolific finishers in UFC welterweight history, and 1388 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 5: I would say relative to expectations, I think he's exceeded 1389 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,919 Speaker 5: them in the eyes of a lot of people. Also 1390 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 5: happens to represent the home team, the Institute of Human 1391 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 5: Performance in Boca Raton, Florida. 1392 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 3: But I digress. 1393 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 5: Sorry main event, Ken Flow will uh oh you didn't 1394 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 5: pick the Komaane No, Yeah, he's got to. 1395 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 3: Hey, I got myself. Can I pick Ah? 1396 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 5: I mean and I go, yeah, I'd like your thoughts 1397 01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 5: on the Komaan event, and I would just like to 1398 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 5: let you know at this point that you will lead 1399 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 5: us on the main event whenever we do get this. 1400 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 3: I thank you very much. 1401 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 6: Past episode on the demo reel, Wow, hey, listen. I 1402 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 6: think Lee is h He's a handful man. I think 1403 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 6: he's going to be a hard guy to put away, 1404 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 6: and I absolutely agree with BP's assessment. It's like Tony 1405 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 6: Ferguson is a better ground fighter than Leeching Leo. There's 1406 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 6: no question about it. The problem is can he take 1407 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:29,919 Speaker 6: him down? 1408 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that we haven't seen 1409 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 3: a whole lot of Tony's offensive wrestling for a reason. Yes, 1410 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 3: he likes to stand up in trade but I don't know. 1411 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 3: We don't see a whole lot of successful offensive wrestling 1412 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,919 Speaker 3: takedowns from Tony Ferguson, and I see it being more 1413 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 3: unlikely going up away class one hundred and seventy pounds. 1414 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 3: So that's worrisome to me. I think Tony has a 1415 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 3: shot here. The problem is is Tony's had a lot 1416 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 3: of tough fights. Tony in his prime wins this fight. 1417 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think he wins this fight. I 1418 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 3: hope he proved me wrong, but I think that the 1419 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 3: Leach is still nasty, he's still hungry. I still think 1420 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 3: he's gonna have way more knockout power than Tony Ferguson. 1421 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 3: Tony Ferguson's best shot is getting Leach, getting the Leach 1422 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 3: tired round three, you know, just it being a bloody war, 1423 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 3: him then getting on top on the ground and getting 1424 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 3: some kind of TKO. I don't see it going down 1425 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 3: like that. I see them trading, but I see the 1426 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 3: Leach when he lands in having much more of an impact, 1427 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 3: and at this stage of Tony Ferguson's career, I don't 1428 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,479 Speaker 3: like that. So that's worrisome. I would again, I would 1429 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 3: love to be proven wrong. I think Tony has a 1430 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 3: tremendous amount of skills. He's given us some of the 1431 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 3: best fights in UFC history. Certainly one of the greatest 1432 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 3: lightweights in UFC history. 1433 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 6: But this one at welterweight at this stage of his 1434 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 6: career against the leech, I don't love it. 1435 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 3: I'm going with the leecher all right. 1436 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 5: And that brings us to the main event at welterweight, 1437 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 5: third ranked one hundred and seventy pound contender, the undefeated 1438 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 5: Kamsa Chimayav minus eleven fifty Nate Diez plus seven fifty. 1439 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 3: That number continues to bounce around. 1440 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 5: Diaz is gone from plus six seventy five to plus 1441 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 5: seven hundred just during this taping, but we're going plus 1442 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 5: seven to fifty for the record. Chimayav eleven and zero 1443 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 5: had to work for it, certainly though. Kenny against Gilbert 1444 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 5: Burns that was back in April at UFC two seventy three. 1445 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 5: Now he draws the iconic Nathan Diez, who has been 1446 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 5: on this roster since June of two thousand and seven 1447 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 5: when he won Season five of The Ultimate Fighter Diez 1448 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 5: Chimayev Under the light Saturday night, Ken Flow will be 1449 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 5: watching who do you have in the main event. 1450 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 3: Hamzat Chimayev is a guy that is a tremendous wrestler, 1451 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 3: and wrestlers like that have traditionally given Nate Nate Diaz trouble. Right, 1452 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 3: This is not this is not a surprising take. This 1453 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 3: is what a lot of people already know. Will Hamzad 1454 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 3: take him down and utilize his wrestling to win this fight? 1455 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 3: I don't think he is. I don't think he is. 1456 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 3: I think if we think if he wanted to, we 1457 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 3: would have seen that against Gilbert Burns, and I saw 1458 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 3: a guy in Hamza Chimayev who was not willing to 1459 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 3: exchange for very long on the ground with someone like 1460 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 3: Gilbert Burns and obviously Gilbert Burns World Championship, pedigree, jiu jitsu, 1461 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 3: all that stuff. 1462 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 6: He's very dangerous. Nay Dias off of his back is 1463 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 6: extremely dangerous as well. I think it was a good 1464 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 6: thing and a bad thing. 1465 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 3: And what we saw with Hamzat Chimayev, why I think 1466 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 3: for Hamzad, hopefully you hope that he learned a lot 1467 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 3: from that fight against Gilbert Burns and that he's gonna 1468 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 3: learn to pace himself and not force knockouts and all 1469 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 3: that stuff, blah blah blah. But you did see a 1470 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 3: guy who didn't have a whole lot of experience, and 1471 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 3: I think that lack of experience is what caused him 1472 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 3: to struggle at times against guys like Gilbert Burns. Gilbert 1473 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 3: Burns a tremendous fighter. But when we look at the 1474 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 3: potential of Hamzat Chimayev and as far as taking the 1475 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 3: best path to victory, Hamza decided not to do that. 1476 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 3: He chose a different path. We got an amazing fight 1477 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 3: because of it, a legendary fight because of it. But 1478 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 3: it was concerning to me. You are facing Nate Diaz, 1479 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 3: a guy who is, you know, maybe at the end 1480 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 3: of his career. But Leon Edwards. Okay, if we're if 1481 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 3: we're going to compare the technical striking of Leon Edwards 1482 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 3: to Hamzat Chimayev. Who who do you think is the 1483 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 3: more technical striker? I would say, with no question about it, 1484 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 3: who has more power? Hamzat Chimayev. I think that guy 1485 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 3: is a wrecking machine. He hits you, he could put 1486 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 3: you out. Can he put Nate Diaz out? At this stage? Greer, 1487 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 3: It's possible. I'm gonna say no, because we just don't 1488 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 3: see it not like that. And I also think the 1489 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 3: other path to victory when you beat someone like a 1490 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 3: Natez is leg kicks. Hamzat can fight out of the 1491 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 3: south past stance if he's not using leg kicks to 1492 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 3: get in and get out, just expecting to overpower Nadez. 1493 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,680 Speaker 6: And out box nate As. I don't think that is 1494 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 6: the path that is. That is what we've seen from Hamza. 1495 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 3: He overpowers you, he utilizes his boxing to take you out, 1496 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 3: knock you out, He gets you on the ground, and 1497 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 3: he overwhelms you with the TKO or something like that 1498 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 3: from what I've seen. And yes, you know the easy 1499 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,680 Speaker 3: pick here it's hobbs at Chimayav. But I see a 1500 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 3: whole lot of value here with Natiez. 1501 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 6: Why because this is the last fight on his contract supposedly, Okay, 1502 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 6: he ain't going out like a bitch. 1503 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 3: How much more value does he have whether he's leaving 1504 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 3: or staying with the UFC and getting a win, and 1505 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 3: getting a win over a hams At Chimayav. He's been 1506 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 3: here before, right, There's no bigger fight than fighting Connor McGregor. 1507 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 3: There's no there's no more people watching you than when 1508 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,680 Speaker 3: you're fighting at Connor McGregor. This is this is not 1509 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 3: new to Nadez. I still think he's got a whole 1510 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 3: lot of nasty in him. 1511 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 5: Uh. 1512 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 3: And if Hamzat faces him the way that he typically fight, 1513 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 3: if he fights him the way that he typically fights, 1514 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,679 Speaker 3: I think that he may be in for a root awakening. 1515 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 3: I really do. And again, I'm a huge Hamzat Chimaya fan. 1516 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 3: I'm just a little nervous for him because he hasn't 1517 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 3: been in a lot of these spots. I think that, 1518 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 3: you know, people have a tendency to think, oh, I'm 1519 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 3: fighting Nate Diaz, And the big knock on Nathdez is 1520 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 3: that he hasn't evolved. Really, He's gonna fight the same 1521 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,639 Speaker 3: way and all that stuff. But if Hamzat fights him, 1522 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 3: I think that plays in an ad as his game. 1523 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 3: And the easy pick is going with Hamza Chimaya here, 1524 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,759 Speaker 3: But at plus seven fifty, I'm going with Nate Diaz. 1525 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 3: Fuck it, Oh, I love it. I love it. Give 1526 01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 3: me all of those three minutes or whatever it was. 1527 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 3: That was a beautiful thing. No, that was a beautiful thing. 1528 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 5: I mean, you hit on so many things and things 1529 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 5: I have in my notes that now I'm not even 1530 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 5: gonna get to quickly bry On Diaz right, body of work, 1531 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 5: And no, Brian, you take as much damn time as 1532 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 5: you want. 1533 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 3: Like this is, this is hard to follow. 1534 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,600 Speaker 5: It's hard to following, right, That's why we normally have 1535 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 5: you leave. No, I'm just kidding, right right, No, you're 1536 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 5: right to mix it up, dude. You're a legend, all right. 1537 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 5: Last win for Nate Diaz was August twenty nineteen against 1538 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 5: Anthony Pettis. It has now been fourteen months since he 1539 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 5: did go five rounds with the now champion Leon Edwards. 1540 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,600 Speaker 5: That was UFC two to sixty three. And it's a 1541 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 5: whole another story there that Leon's now the champion given 1542 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 5: the way that fight went down. All told, the twenty 1543 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 5: seventh and perhaps final UFC appearance for Nate Diaz can't 1544 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 5: flow pretty bullish on his chances. 1545 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 3: Your thoughts be p Well, the. 1546 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,640 Speaker 4: Line's absurd, for sure. I mean, Nate Diaz is an 1547 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 4: absolute g He could easily win this multitude of ways 1548 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 4: right Comsot's only had eleven fights. I mean, I mean 1549 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 4: we all got to remember that. I mean a lot 1550 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 4: of people are forgetting that he's only eleven fights, and yeah, 1551 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,600 Speaker 4: he's a beast's of stuff, but that's still not like 1552 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,600 Speaker 4: a lot. I mean, that's still kind of borderline, you know, 1553 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 4: green in there. And no matter what the way this 1554 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 4: outcome ends, Nate's gonna win. I have friends of mine 1555 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 4: that are two or nine army or die, and they 1556 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 4: consider what happened in that fifth round of Leon Edwards 1557 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 4: try to win because you know what I mean, like 1558 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 4: he was getting dominant who fight? But hey, we having 1559 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 4: the fifth red so Nate can do no wrong. He's 1560 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 4: gonna go outside the UFC if that is true, and 1561 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 4: he's gonna do nathiiz things. He has an army winner, 1562 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 4: lose draw. It's kind of like Comma Ggregor. Problem with 1563 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 4: this is I might get some shit. Kenny kind of 1564 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,959 Speaker 4: mention it too. And nine, I think Nate has plateaued 1565 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,679 Speaker 4: as a fighter. I think everything that he was really 1566 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,599 Speaker 4: good at is kind of stayed the same or regressed 1567 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 4: a little bit. 1568 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 8: You know. 1569 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 4: His his punching used to be really pitty pat mixed 1570 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 4: to the body. We don't really see that anymore. His 1571 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 4: last really vented Nate DA's performance was back in twenty sixteen. 1572 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 4: That's when he was thirty one years old. He's thirty seven. 1573 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 3: Now. 1574 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:52,639 Speaker 4: You know he's not the most active guy in the world. 1575 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 4: I mean, his last win was Pettis. But the last 1576 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 4: time I thought he looked vinted to Nate was the 1577 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 4: Connor McGregor one and two. I thought he looked good 1578 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 4: in both fights, and I think his volumes punches are 1579 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 4: down is take down, the fence is non existent, and 1580 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 4: his submission wins last time twenty sixteen over coonamergregor. Time 1581 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,640 Speaker 4: before that, twenty twelve over Jim Miller. It's been a 1582 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 4: while since he's really been up. But again, see who 1583 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 4: he's fighting. Leon Vers took him down multiple times, five times. 1584 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 4: They didn't really wanna play the guard game with them. 1585 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 4: I understand that Tramaia's star, He's next up. They're pushing that. 1586 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 4: This is what the UFC does with these new upcoming guys. 1587 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of the blueprint. I really don't 1588 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 4: understand the backlash that people are giving this fight, saying like, oh, 1589 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,639 Speaker 4: they're feeding Nate to the dogs. They should have Nate 1590 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 4: is a dog himself. What are we talking about. He 1591 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 4: asks for this fight. There's no feeding to anybody this 1592 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 4: is just what's up next. 1593 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 3: I you know, Kenny's swayed. 1594 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 4: Me a little bit because I'm looking at this number 1595 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 4: and it fucking gets me excited. But I'm gonna have 1596 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,679 Speaker 4: to go the other way. I know it's an easy 1597 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 4: way out. I just really am high in Chamaia. I 1598 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,599 Speaker 4: think what ultimately was gonna come down to. Because Nate 1599 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 4: is no bitch and he's a fucking g is. He's 1600 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 4: gonna get cut up, it's gonna get stopped. It's gonna 1601 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 4: be a lot like the milesed af fight. I can 1602 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 4: see that happening. But you're right, it throws me. Paul's 1603 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,799 Speaker 4: got rewatched the Burns fight and it looked like Chamaia 1604 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 4: didn't really want to do anything with Burns on the ground. 1605 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 4: He's a little hesitant to go to the ground perds. 1606 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 4: He tried a few takedowns and got stuff. Mostly you 1607 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 4: want to stand on the feet. 1608 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:09,120 Speaker 3: You know. 1609 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 4: He can take Nate down whenever he wants, you know, 1610 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 4: But is he gonna want to play the guard game? 1611 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 4: Have we seen that? And the last time Nate fought 1612 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 4: a real one seventy was rot Roy McDonald. Roy McDonald 1613 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,639 Speaker 4: cost him over the cage. I know that was many 1614 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 4: years ago, but Hazma Chaiev is big, and my boy 1615 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 4: Chris Curtis, who was trained with him, say he's the 1616 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 4: strongest guy he's ever trained with. When he's in Vegas, 1617 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,519 Speaker 4: he's like these guys, he's deferent man. So with an 1618 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,640 Speaker 4: undersized Nate going in there, I'm good to go with 1619 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 4: Shamaiya of t K round three probably doctor stoppage. 1620 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:37,280 Speaker 3: But Kenny's right. 1621 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 4: The value I think is on Nate with that Abisurde number, 1622 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,000 Speaker 4: and I think it's just going to keep getting higher 1623 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 4: once people get to Vegas this week. But yeah, I 1624 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 4: just I'm gonna be a square and go with Chamaya. 1625 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:46,519 Speaker 8: No. 1626 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,560 Speaker 5: But you, hey, you're giving us a round and a 1627 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 5: method of victory without being prompted, which we like. So 1628 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,720 Speaker 5: you get more from Brian Petrie on his MMA takes 1629 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 5: podcasts on social media at Brian Petrie Mma. I was 1630 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,960 Speaker 5: excited for this man event before you guys gave me 1631 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 5: all the bells and whistles. 1632 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 3: Now I'm even more and I'm jack Now. 1633 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 4: We can't now Ken, I mean, I'm gonna go run 1634 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 4: through my fucking walk to Kenny. So many laid on me. 1635 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 3: I love it. He doesn't pick underdogs for ratings. I'll 1636 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,720 Speaker 3: tell you that I know that's why he feels that. 1637 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 4: That's why I love that shit. 1638 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 5: All right, BP, appreciate your time. As always, We talk 1639 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 5: to you in a week, all right. Bryan Petree with 1640 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 5: us for the main event challenge. A couple of happy 1641 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 5: birthdays here on my list before we get to the 1642 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,040 Speaker 5: marrow seconds, I mean, Cody, pop your mug up anytime 1643 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 5: you want. Happy birthday to Connie Buffer, Bruce Buffer's mom, 1644 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 5: as we mentioned, celebrating birthday number ninety four, Happy birthday 1645 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 5: today to the general safe side, and happy birthday to 1646 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 5: Clark Florian still still so much younger than her husband, Kenny. 1647 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,720 Speaker 3: She really is so much younger than her husband. It's great. 1648 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:52,839 Speaker 5: Good for you, dude, you got massive, exactly fucking ratio 1649 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,799 Speaker 5: and all of us oh with a blacked out background today. 1650 01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go on, kid, East Coast time. I don't 1651 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 7: have a mansion like Kenny, so you know, I'm just 1652 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:04,960 Speaker 7: doing my best over here. 1653 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 3: What little features I do have? What do you have 1654 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 3: for blues? What do you got? Well? 1655 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 7: So, during that uh discussion with Ray, I found it 1656 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 7: interesting to go back and look at some uh Kenny 1657 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 7: Florian lightweight statistics, so I thought it was interesting. The 1658 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 7: all time lease strikes absorbs number one islam Mankachev, all 1659 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 7: time in the lightweight division, Number two was Matt Sarah, 1660 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 7: and number nine all time was Kenny Florian. So pretty 1661 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,839 Speaker 7: damn impressive. Antaki florin podcast list y'all, y'all. 1662 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 3: To forthcoming well, and. 1663 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 7: If there wasn't any dissension in the main event challenge, 1664 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,600 Speaker 7: I was going to say, like, I'm not really incentivized 1665 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 7: to do this, but if nay Diez goes out in 1666 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 7: their wins, like I'll get it to a nine tattoo, 1667 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,679 Speaker 7: I'll fly out of Florida. We'll get it done. 1668 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,679 Speaker 3: Let's go, dude. That is amazing. 1669 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 5: I absolutely love it, absolutely and anybody who wants to 1670 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 5: join Cody or put any sort of tattoo bet on 1671 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,720 Speaker 5: this on this at Anti Florian pod. We're not giving 1672 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,160 Speaker 5: away pay per view tickets this time around, but if 1673 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,760 Speaker 5: you want to get in on the tattoo bet good 1674 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 5: for you. Cody, where are you going to get that 1675 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,799 Speaker 5: two on nine tattooed? When Nathan upsets the Apple Cat. 1676 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 7: I'm gonna get it like on the top of my 1677 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 7: barber pole, which I already got so where's that? 1678 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,560 Speaker 5: Oh God, I am a neck tattoo guy myself, but 1679 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:25,400 Speaker 5: it doesn't. 1680 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,320 Speaker 7: Well, you haven't even gotten your game bread tatt So 1681 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 7: if I go down there for the two on nine tests, 1682 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 7: you're gonna get game. 1683 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 3: Bread, right, I do that? Yeah? Game Yeah, I do. Yeah. 1684 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 7: Well, it's almost embarrassing the fact that I essentially came 1685 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 7: up with the new AF logo and more people have 1686 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 7: a tattooed on their bodies and our whole podcast. So 1687 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 7: maybe I should start there, you know, maybe it's like 1688 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,240 Speaker 7: an AF with the two O nine and it. 1689 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 3: I think that was like that. Yeah, what else do 1690 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 3: you have for us? Young man? 1691 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 7: So I thought something from UFC Paris was interesting. The 1692 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 7: gomese versus Aaron's fight was a majority decision, with the 1693 01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 7: last round being a ten to ten from judge Christopher Chapwei. So, 1694 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 7: Christopher CHAPWII, if you want to come to America, like 1695 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,559 Speaker 7: replace some of these fools that are giving out shitty 1696 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,799 Speaker 7: scorecards like we'll get you, we'll. 1697 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 3: Get you on a flight? Was it warranted? I didn't 1698 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,800 Speaker 3: see that fight, Cody in your opinion? Yeah? 1699 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 7: Well, and I just think if if we're gonna have 1700 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,160 Speaker 7: more liberal callings of the you know, scorecards. Then you've 1701 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,600 Speaker 7: got to have ten tens in there too. There's got 1702 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 7: to be ten eights. There's gonna be ten tenths. 1703 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 5: I agree with you, but that judge would get raked 1704 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,640 Speaker 5: over the coals and lose all his work. In the 1705 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,920 Speaker 5: United States of America, those judges are told, to a 1706 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 5: man to a woman, ten tenths don't exist. Except for 1707 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 5: technical circumstances. They don't exist. They basically put a pistol 1708 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,160 Speaker 5: to your temple and say, pick a fucking winner. Yeah 1709 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 5: you know, I moose landed one jab on car, Like, 1710 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 5: give her the round. Yeah you know, Well that's what 1711 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,600 Speaker 5: they want. I'm saying, I don't agree with you. 1712 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 3: No, I get it. 1713 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 7: But is this the unified rules or is this the 1714 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 7: Mike Missouli rules of MM Like, I mean, the guy's 1715 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 7: got an opinion on everything. 1716 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 5: Like yeah, so what uh yeah, that's interesting though, I 1717 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 5: didn't know that good good intel from you there. 1718 01:17:59,000 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1719 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 7: So the last thing, because we got kind of a 1720 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 7: short week, you know, not too much, but the NFL season, Baby. 1721 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,720 Speaker 3: We're back. So we're back. 1722 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 7: In the America's Favorite segments, Cody's covers at the end 1723 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 7: of the show or. 1724 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:13,479 Speaker 3: Doesn't cover. 1725 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, so usually that's the case. I missed by like 1726 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,600 Speaker 7: half a point most of the time. But what I 1727 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,240 Speaker 7: think would be funny based on what Ray said, is 1728 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,000 Speaker 7: if we so you and I actually like watch the games. 1729 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 7: We take some pride in the fact that we can, 1730 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 7: you know, handicap these things. What if we just make 1731 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 7: Ray like Bucket and hat pick a team every week 1732 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 7: and then that's what he's got to do and we'll 1733 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 7: see who has the better record at the end of 1734 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 7: the year. So like maybe Ray picking random spread like 1735 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 7: almost like if you had a dog picking like out 1736 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,000 Speaker 7: of dog bowls. 1737 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 5: So like, I think we should do that. I think 1738 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:43,880 Speaker 5: I wish we had done it for week one, but 1739 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:44,720 Speaker 5: maybe you'll throw all the. 1740 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 7: Week and there's time. There's time, we can do it. 1741 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 5: All right, So what is your lock for Cody Covers 1742 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 5: in week one? 1743 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 7: So I'm going to Ken Flow's neck of the woods here, 1744 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,560 Speaker 7: and hey, maybe Kenny can go and give us the 1745 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 7: inside scoop there. But I like Carolina minus two and 1746 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 7: a half at home against Cleveland Browns. It's a revenge 1747 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 7: game for Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield going up against his 1748 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 7: own team and who has more experiences to Brown's defense 1749 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 7: and Baker Mayfield. They played against them all last year 1750 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,639 Speaker 7: in practice, so I like that Jacoby sets the quarterback 1751 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 7: on the other side. Obviously, there's a huge discrepancy there. 1752 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,360 Speaker 7: I love Jacoby, but it's not a starting quarterback in 1753 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 7: the NFL, not in this league. The Browns defense ranked 1754 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 7: twelfth last year in the rush game. Going up against 1755 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 7: Christian McCaffrey is obviously a big factor in this game, 1756 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,000 Speaker 7: and Carolina was eighth in the rush So but Brown's 1757 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 7: a gonna rest on their rush game a lot this year. 1758 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 7: Huge backfield with Nick Chubb, and the Panthers have a 1759 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 7: great rush defense, so I think it's gonna be great 1760 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 7: for them. Home field advantage will give you three points. 1761 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 7: So you're telling me in a neutral field that the 1762 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 7: Browns should be minus half a point. No fucking way, 1763 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,639 Speaker 7: Panthers minus two and a half. 1764 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 5: Half ooh, Cody, Panthers minus two and a half with 1765 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 5: conviction in week one. 1766 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,160 Speaker 3: That's good stuff, all right? 1767 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,280 Speaker 5: Anything else before we let you fly, all right, that's 1768 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,599 Speaker 5: gonna do it for our three hundred and sixty fourth episode. 1769 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 5: Once we do a show next week, there will be 1770 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 5: an episode for every day of a calendar year, which 1771 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 5: is super fucking exciting. So maybe we'll have a special guest. 1772 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 5: Maybe not, You'll have to tune in to find out. 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