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Speaker 1: Hey man, we were back at it.

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Speaker 2: It's another episode of Off the Edge with media host

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Speaker 2: Cam Jordan, and I'm just super excited. I think I

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Speaker 2: just called it an episode because we were just enemies.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get into it. We were good, We're good now.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, we go from going off head to

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Speaker 2: head matchup out there in Jersey. They're gonna call it

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Speaker 2: the New New York Giants caveon Thibodeau on the show. Uh,

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Speaker 2: we won't really dip into it, but we're gonna tap in.

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Speaker 2: So go ahead, hit the hit the follow, the subscribe.

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Speaker 2: This episode is bound to be a good one. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna cover a little myriad of topics. But I'm excited. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Cavon coming back on the on the pod bro, you

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Speaker 2: know for the monthly Stop in to check in if

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Speaker 2: you will.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling you good man, I'm I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to be back, but I'm mad that y'all. I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to have that one man overtime just for

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Speaker 1: the record, just so you know, we had, y'all, we

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Speaker 1: went overtime.

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Speaker 2: Fact that we went to the to the halftime and

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, we winning this game for a

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Speaker 2: show and you come back and score fourteen eleven when.

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Speaker 1: I tell you your score to weird score.

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Speaker 2: We missed two field goals, y'all almost took what y

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Speaker 2: y'all y'all took one back to the crib off.

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Speaker 1: Off of fluke fluke call question, but I wasn't. I

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Speaker 1: would say it was a fluke. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: real question. But now I'm just talking. Yeah, you can't

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Speaker 1: complain it is. That's the game. Hey, it's it's any

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Speaker 1: given Sunday.

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Speaker 2: But fourteen eleven we're going into it and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, cool, you know sexy Dexy aka you know

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Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence a monster in the middle. For y'all, it

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Speaker 2: was down, you know. You guys got got rid of

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, which.

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Speaker 1: We had some dudes step up, like it wasn't just

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Speaker 1: you know, it was we were playing you know, like

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Speaker 1: Like I'm talking about guys who you and Bernsey are

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Speaker 1: nice now? It was it was It was tough. It

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Speaker 1: was tough, but a lot of guys stepped up. It

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Speaker 1: was dope, you know. For for our defense perspective, we

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Speaker 1: did pretty well, but.

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Speaker 2: Y'all stopped that. Y'all stopped the hell out to run.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not even sure who the interior was.

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Speaker 2: They was out there splitting two gays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, y Duri, who else? Jordan Riley?

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Speaker 2: It was cooking And I was like, I said, I

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Speaker 2: had I had thought I knew Elik Neighbors game.

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Speaker 1: I ain't know. He was like that like that, yeah

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Speaker 1: he got it. He got some juice to him.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, he's just like one of these

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Speaker 2: quick cats. Bro broke like four or five tackles.

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Speaker 1: Bro Like yeah, you know, it's just like he's aerodynamic.

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Speaker 1: That's the way to put it. Stay on his feet.

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Speaker 1: He got balanced. He knows how to bounce off tackles.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you know you you came off with

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Speaker 2: a sack against a young, young.

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Speaker 1: Hater one that was late, too late.

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Speaker 2: We saw a little Tommy cutletz take the game for

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Speaker 2: a play me me. I was like, oh, granted, were

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Speaker 2: getting one right now. And then it was it was

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Speaker 2: like a little read option. Hey me, grandall met this

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Speaker 2: running back in the backfield so quick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, had us too, was doing.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, literally we came to the game knowing though.

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Speaker 2: It was like it was like our defense versus their defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, nah, well our offense had a chance.

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Speaker 1: Drew Locke was cooking up at the end. He was

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Speaker 1: serving in that point, oh.

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Speaker 2: Servant brother, like Channel Prime Matt Ryan in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: boy was releasing this off of two step drops. We're

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Speaker 2: in his face almost every other play, and that man

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Speaker 2: was dropping dimers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was. It was an exciting game

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Speaker 1: from my perspective. It was fun. I just you know, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: To be on the opposite side of that, I mean,

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Speaker 2: one of those could be a chance. Yeah. Uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Lanta lost Tampa Temple one. But I think we're

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Speaker 2: In my hopes, Bro, I need my hopes, you know.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say that part.

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Speaker 1: Just good luck, bro, forget it. My dog.

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Speaker 2: Another now that we're not ops, bro, like man who

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Speaker 2: got this up coming week?

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Speaker 1: We got Baltimore, Man, Baltimore on my birthday. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not too worried, though, I'll say you have a secret weapon.

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Speaker 2: The key the key to uh, the key to that

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Speaker 2: is is the edge edge on that between you and Birdsey.

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Speaker 2: Y'all athletic is hell enough to actually.

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Speaker 1: No, we got like a secret weapon some like secret sauce. Okay,

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Speaker 1: yeah we got something. We got something. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great game. Damn excited.

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Speaker 2: Just just just saw you know, y'all gonna catch that

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Speaker 2: freshly cut, more aerodynamic Derrick Henry boy just cut like

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Speaker 2: seventeen pounds worth the dreads off.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the hand.

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Speaker 2: Hand man, right, you know, man, you know, hey, I

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Speaker 2: got the car roads. I'm happy for you, right, set

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Speaker 2: you free with the remaining games left.

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Speaker 1: Uh? Are you trying to be the spoiler? Are you

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Speaker 1: trying to mess up playoffs? In my training? At my trying?

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Speaker 1: Like I said, hey, I didn't catch nobody, but we're

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Speaker 1: gonnahoop some ass on the way down to don't catch nobody.

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Speaker 2: Talk them out because after Ravens, after the Ravens, y'all

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Speaker 2: got the falcons, and I need, I need.

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Speaker 1: You got the falcons, then we got the eat. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we might have a coat coats and wes. Yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: You need that, need that? Yeah, it's cool. Cool if

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Speaker 1: y'all win this week. I hope everybody underestimated to just

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Speaker 2: Defense, hold on team to seventeen. You really be like help,

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Speaker 2: you know, just keep going now, you just keep working, yea,

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Speaker 2: get it right. Absolutely injuries, you know, end of the season. Boy,

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Speaker 1: And now I'm we was ready to go over time.

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Speaker 1: But I hope he's all right.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know me too. I'm still I'm still waiting. I'm

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Speaker 2: Like I saw someone on the little ESPN tracker like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Derek Carr may miss I texted him.

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Speaker 1: I was like immediately, I said.

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Speaker 2: Hey, bro, you said you were okay, you said you

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Speaker 1: Jumped, didn't get it. Then the backup came in and

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Speaker 1: it was just like it's something about like we had

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Speaker 1: Oh it's going over time. We're about to go overtime

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Brazi over the over the top of somebody

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Speaker 2: for the block kick.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: The play before I really like, had Drew locked just

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Speaker 2: been regular Drew locked, Bro, that would have been a sack.

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Speaker 1: The play before the end, like the Drew lock that

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Speaker 1: we know, that would have been a sack. This man

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Speaker 1: he was he was cooking.

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Speaker 2: He's two step dropped back release hand hand on hand, Bro,

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Speaker 2: like my hands in his palm ball release. I said, Bro,

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Speaker 2: I needed to seal that, like I needed that for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I needed that.

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Speaker 2: Brian Maze finished that thing. But you know, uh, he's

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Speaker 2: that that that block punt situation.

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Speaker 1: I heard a lot of people. Look, Chiefs won a.

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Speaker 2: Game with with the kick that hit the pole and

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Speaker 2: then bounced in whatever whatever magic seance positive energy.

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Speaker 1: We got to get that we're not aligned.

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Speaker 2: The Chokras ain't a lie.

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Speaker 1: Because too many times it's a flag. Like Bro stars

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Speaker 1: just on the line first.

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Speaker 2: Bro, early early in the season, when you're like you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh we lost by two four six, You're like, bro,

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Speaker 2: one one possession, you lively like, just finish it, finish it.

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Speaker 1: We did it too. It's funny, Hope. I believe we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it, and we did it. And we did it. Bro.

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Speaker 2: That's when I tell you, when I tell you pain

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Speaker 2: for real, Like I know exactly you feel.

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Speaker 1: Last week the week before y'all we played the.

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Speaker 2: Rams and you know, like offense was driving in to

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Speaker 2: tie it up to go into overtime and just didn't

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Speaker 2: like it was about.

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Speaker 1: To throw it. Just didn't you lose on that over

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're gonna do this. Finna do this,

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Speaker 1: miss it? Oh, this game over, it's over.

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Speaker 2: I gotta take I gotta take the field for this knee,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna take it. I want to punch somebody right now.

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Speaker 1: Like somebody's asked me, like, oh yeah, who up, you up?

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Speaker 2: I gotta put hands on this person one one last time.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I mean for you, just for your

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Speaker 2: future alone, you know, like you said, you need them

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Speaker 2: sacks for you.

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Speaker 1: Know, my dog, my dog parents. You know, he got

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Speaker 1: a sack. I got a sack. He's like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: were going back. We canna rush. I'm like, yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: do it. Like yeah, let's do it over time. Yeah. No, no, bro,

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Speaker 1: you got four games left.

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Speaker 2: What you try to pull off for the four games

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Speaker 2: because I mean after that, after this year, the Giants

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Speaker 2: got to put pick up your fifth year if they're smart.

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Speaker 1: But you talk, you just went heavy talk. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying that's real talk. That's real talk. So and it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I had a lot of people talking to me about

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Speaker 1: the fifty option bringing that up. But right, man, I

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Speaker 1: got to do his best I can, period. That's just

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Speaker 1: kind of the answer. I got to play good football,

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Speaker 1: so starting with the run game, just shutting it down.

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Speaker 1: I think I graded out pretty well my last two games,

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Speaker 1: which was good stat wise. You know, obviously I got

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Speaker 1: three sacks, so you want to finish with at least

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put the work in and try to

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Speaker 1: get it. But I think just I gotta play good football.

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Speaker 1: You know, regardless of the stats. Obviously we're not in

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get ten sacks and you know we're

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Speaker 1: not winning. But I think, you know, continuously with all

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Speaker 2: Because that fifty year option.

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Speaker 2: You're rushing third and eight. And that's what people don't understand.

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Speaker 2: So now you're like, I'm stopping this run. Dang convert

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Speaker 2: to pass? Yeah yeah absolutely, but you know, look, I

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Speaker 1: Do you think? What is it? I don't know if

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not terrible.

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Speaker 1: It's not terrible. Leg Yeah it ain't. It ain't it

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Speaker 1: guess what, yess what I it ain't bad. That's amazing. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 1: how does it work if they don't get it? If

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not even not gonna talk about like would he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as a former teammate, As a former teammate, like

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Speaker 1: This is exactly what we expect. This is what we

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Speaker 2: You know those those the fire and nature of coaches,

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Speaker 2: you think about like Sean Payton Russell last year situation

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Speaker 2: Players are players. You know, we're not perfect people, so

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Speaker 2: And for me, if you're not motivated motivated enough by yourself,

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Speaker 1: Kick in the ass to get going. I definitely like

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Speaker 1: I think either way, you don't. The line of communication

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Speaker 1: gotta be open, the relationship got to be there, and

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Speaker 1: that fire needs to be had just for the game

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Speaker 2: Bro. I literally I literally like be going to practice

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Speaker 2: training camp. I'd be like, hey, I bring my hands

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Speaker 2: Now I'm like, I'm gonna choke I'm gonna choke you out,

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Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it's too much that side thurn in

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Speaker 1: You're you're setting yourself up familiar you know, I think

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Speaker 1: come to me. I like a coach that's fired up,

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Speaker 1: I need a coach that's gone, you know, be military

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Oh I hope you do have a son.

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Speaker 2: Bro. In my mind, I say, every man deserves a man.

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Speaker 2: I got to do it the right way, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like like no, I gotta go hard,

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Speaker 2: Like can't can't have my kid going to school talk

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Speaker 2: If I ever lost a fan fight, I literally go

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Speaker 2: What we don't do is step back because we don't

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Speaker 1: What you're gonna do? You tell you got whooped by

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Speaker 2: So that's what you gotta know. I'm ready for I'm

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Speaker 2: ready for the action. Are you ready for that action? Like?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like, hey, you're gonna win. You can't win every battle, allegedly,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know one v one defeat. I

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Speaker 2: I don't know one v one defeat. But maybe you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I for show on my son to have that perspective,

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Speaker 1: He got it, give me off your list? You oh

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Speaker 1: you go? You you gonna beat me? Show me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And then if you showed me, show me again,

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Speaker 2: because that's I want to know. Let you know that

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Speaker 2: If my son ever, like we we get into it,

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Speaker 2: back put the boxing gloves on. You know what time

434
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 2: were anyway, But you know, just it's it's just great

435
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 2: to you know, have a son and like look at

436
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 2: him and and just even on flag football because I

437
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 2: won't let himlay tackle just yet flag football, Like he's

438
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 2: talking to his teammates and you know, emulating it. But

439
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 2: like it almost made me think what you said earlier, bro,

440
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 2: like it's that business. No, not football was a business.

441
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: Players who don't produce shouldn't have a voice.

442
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't really saying I shouldn't have a voice.

443
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, it's just what it is. You know,

444
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: it's just it's time on task. Like you got your like, well,

445
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: your middle linebacker plays every snap like what he is

446
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 1: Listen to him? Yeah, it takes are Our nose guard

447
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: has played every game to see you know whatever, Yes,

448
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 1: nice acts. We should listen to what he's saying, No doubt.

449
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 1: You gotta know with double shut the hell up when

450
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: he talked. If you're thinking about saying something, say it

451
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: with your pads and then and then comes head. You

452
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: know you should. I have to learn that too, Like okay,

453
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm coming in. The stripes I had before last year

454
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: or you know, whatever stripes I had, they don't apply here.

455
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: M hm. You know these are new stripes. This is

456
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 1: a new situation.

457
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: Is a new year, we say, we said, they don't

458
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 2: like you talk about the resume like everything you've done

459
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 2: prior it's not gonna help you in.

460
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: This now exactly that that credit that credit does not

461
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't go here. Ain't no rollo, ain't no rollover minutes.

462
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: What have you done for me lately? Are you your

463
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 1: run stoppers?

464
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: Showed me you stopped run your pastors to show me

465
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: you stop the past if you, if you, if you

466
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,959
Speaker 2: want them, lockdown corners, lock down any and everything.

467
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. If your name is no. But that's

468
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: the league because it's too hard. And that's the hard

469
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: part about this league. But that's why we get you.

470
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: That's why we get paid. We paid because it's hard, right,

471
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: It's the reality of like, you know, do it again,

472
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: show me again and again and again.

473
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely its It's one of those proven leagues. And it's

474
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: not a prove it one time, it's a prove it

475
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 2: every time. Teams love your upside until they think they

476
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 2: can replace you upside.

477
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: Even me. I'm sitting here right now, like damn three

478
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: years down, no Pro Bowls, oh man, legacy, Yeah you know,

479
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: like now I got to play for another seventeen years.

480
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: Hey Rob be your fourteen Yeah, I'm vying for the

481
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You know, like I done had all the

482
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: personal success.

483
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't own your contract.

484
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: Then next after next year okay, yeah bro, like and

485
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm like better go chase.

486
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: You No, Bro, the legacy push on that. I don't.

487
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: I only know black and gold. Bro, I'm good with it.

488
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 2: Like like that guy Pop Pops played thirteen years for

489
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: the Vikings, Bro, Like loads run deep for me, Bro,

490
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: So I'm hard pressed. That's what I told you, Like

491
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: you saw me in that nose nose tackle detacl spot

492
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: anybody else keeping like, Bro.

493
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm out of here.

494
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, I'll just stop the run.

495
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: I want my team to defensive scheme. You know, I

496
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: know we touched on that last week. Yeah, not last week,

497
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. How's that? How's that changed?

498
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: You know? How's that summed up? Obviously? Yeah it hasn't, hasn't.

499
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 2: We sort of started to go back towards that for

500
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: man rush. But for man rush you still got Carl

501
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: Grandison on the edge, Chase Young on the edge, and

502
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 2: Brian Berzi gone stupid in the middle of that. Boy

503
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: got with seven and a half, seven and a half

504
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: sacks in the middle and then I'm over here like

505
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: fighting for my life at this three techniques sometimes to

506
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: lie down to the one like new Territory, Oh, well,

507
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: you gotta figure it out now, got to figure it out, right,

508
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: So you know, it just all comes down to the

509
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: business and nature of the defense and the game. Combination, combination, combination,

510
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: enough on the on the field stuff the off the field.

511
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: Who's who's you guys, multi Paid Man nominee?

512
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: Was that Slayton? There is Slaton? Yeah, yeah, shout out

513
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: to slay Walter Paid Man in the Year.

514
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah yeah, now he's O.

515
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: I guess for that. Take that as a challenge. You're

516
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: nominated too.

517
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm my team. I'm my team's Walters Paid Man

518
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: of the Year nomination. Bro. You know so I'm like,

519
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's it's a kudos to everything that you

520
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: do off the field. And at the same time, there's

521
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: still more to be done, just like, you know.

522
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: Way more. It never stops. That's the hard part. It's like,

523
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: even after if you win the Alter Payton you gotta

524
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: go do it again. Yeah, that's not that's fine with

525
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: the year you won the Walter Payton War, Like that's

526
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: not enough. But that's it's it's even beyond that.

527
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: It's like you see guys like you know they're Slaton,

528
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: and you see you know, guys like Travis Kelt or whatever,

529
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: it's phenomenal a war because everybody puts on a bigger

530
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: platform for their cause, and for me, mine is always

531
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: gonna be like the next generation education, uh and pushing

532
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: forth for that, for for that. But but you look

533
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 2: at look around, You're like, damn, everybody's everybody's got he's

534
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: got he's doing this, that, this, that, Like somebody's created

535
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: a school, somebody's out here like really creating major impact,

536
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: major motion, and you know, feeding feeding the hundreds of

537
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: thousand people digging digging whales in the water, you know,

538
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: like Chris Long.

539
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: Used to do or with the water Boys.

540
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: Uh, Miles, Miles Garrett was a part of it for

541
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: a second, and he's just like, bro, I whatever I

542
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: do does just feel like it's enough. Like I'm impacting

543
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: you know, my community, which is great, but it's like

544
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: how much more can I give?

545
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

546
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: You ever like it's I feel like I think it

547
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: challenged everything though.

548
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: So you know me, man, it'll drive you crazy, just

549
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: like looking at that and having that mindset, because it

550
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't end. You know, there're always people to help.

551
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: There always be a mission. That's the mission is bigger

552
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: than you, you know, so I think you just have

553
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: to kind of find where you're satisfied in it. Even

554
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: with the league, Like you could Chase, you played thirteen,

555
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: you could play fifteen, you could try to play twenty.

556
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: Their dudes, I didn't even know. There are a lot

557
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: of dudes who haven't retired yet. You know, they're just

558
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: waiting to continue playing. And I think, you know, it's

559
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: all at the end of the day, like people are

560
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: going to judge you whether you help. And it's the

561
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: funny part. Whether you help a thousand people, you win

562
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, if you don't produce in the field, people

563
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: are still going to talk bad about you your football skill.

564
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: So it's like that's not gonna you know, that's not

565
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: going to make you happier with the product being put out.

566
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's not going to make you more fulfilled

567
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: because you know you're still gonna have your same problems.

568
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: You're helping other people, but like your problems are the same.

569
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: So I don't know, you just got to find what

570
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: you know, what level or capacity you know do you

571
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with And you know, I help the people

572
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: that help the people that you are closest to. I

573
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: think that's one place where like I lose track. You

574
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: try to be on this super grand scale and oh,

575
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: I want to help everybody in the world. But it's like, nah,

576
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: just help your family in your community and your neighborhood

577
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: and your state and your you know, like be more

578
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: local than Nashville. B Yeah, got to be micro before

579
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: you go macro. Like you know, like I was like, man,

580
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: I want to send all these kids to college. All right,

581
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: well let's focus on what I can do family.

582
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like like, oh I got I got cousins and

583
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: went to Okay, well they're headed towards college.

584
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: Cool.

585
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: Now open it up New Orleans, East Hey, New Orleans,

586
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: you know, North Bank, whatever, New Orleans in general. Can

587
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: I try and help y'all? And you take it from there.

588
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: And that's where it sort of it sort of happened

589
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 2: for me though, like I thought micro first and then

590
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: now thirteen years later macro. But I mean, I still

591
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: do my same school visits every Tuesday. I started with

592
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: my rookie year. I'm still out in the community doing elementary,

593
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: middle school, high school, whatever it was.

594
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: It's funny. I think that's the difference too, when you

595
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: look at like New Orleans versus in LA or New York,

596
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: because I came in thinking macro like, oh, let's let's

597
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: have a platform. Let's yeah, platform, like, let's figure out

598
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: how we can help the masses. And then I had

599
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: to kind of step back, like, let me actually realize,

600
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: like you know, like there are twenty kids that I

601
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: can help at my hand, right here in front of me.

602
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: Let me help these twenty you know, they're you know,

603
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: like you say, cousins, there are a family around me

604
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: or people right in my vision or maybe not in

605
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: my vision, but there are people that need the help,

606
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: that are local that I could help, that I should

607
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 1: be and I think I had to and I think

608
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: it's been good and not necessarily change my mind, but

609
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: just connect those two platforms, you know, from the international

610
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: or the national to the local platform, and you know,

611
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: continue to kind of uplift you know both right.

612
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: In fact, in fact, brother, take care of the small

613
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: things and the bigger things will follow suit, exactly, you know,

614
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: like you know again, I'm here fourteen, so you you

615
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: have to hear three. We'll talk in another five six years, bro,

616
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: when you you're over established and you you created, you know,

617
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: you'll met Gala Foundation. You know what I'm saying Like

618
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: that that's when you know, when football field meets off

619
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: the field, that creates an even larger impact. But when

620
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: you talk when you take care of three or four local,

621
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: local kids and there's inspired both, there's a chance that

622
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: you've created such a positive impact that that next generation

623
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: is gonna feel what you what you've left from the

624
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: kids that.

625
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: You talk to. Ye, And that's what it's That's what

626
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: it's all about.

627
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: But anyways, all right, but enough of that, let's uh,

628
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: let's pivot get to the off side or on side segment.

629
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: We've done this before. You're familiar with this one.

630
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: Offside versus on side For anybody news to the pod

631
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: is I'm gonna throw out some of the biggest storyline scenarios.

632
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: If you're you're on side, you're all for it. If

633
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: you're off size that you're against it. Uh, major push

634
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: winning the Heisman. Travis Hunter should win the Heisman over

635
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: ashion gionte off side.

636
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Or on side?

637
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna go. Was his stats crazy? Giant stats

638
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: through that's crazy? His stats are stupid.

639
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, full time starter at both wide receiver and

640
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: quarter leads uh leads receiving touchdowns, which I feel like

641
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: to me is like a luckstat but he also he

642
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: also has like the third most yards in the group

643
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: with receiving yards. He's got like a eleven hundred and

644
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: fifty two receiving yards.

645
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: Do you got any interceptions?

646
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got like he's got what like four four,

647
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: he's got some interceptions. He's doing he's doing the most

648
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: with what he's been given. He's playing both ways on side,

649
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: on side.

650
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Okay, well both ways both ways at the at the

651
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: college level. Yeah, like a real both ways, not like

652
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: a special teams like I play dB and special teams

653
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: like no, like I really play offensive defense and special.

654
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter eleven, you know, eleven one hundred and fifty

655
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: two receiving yards, four interceptions, So that's an electric heisman.

656
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to be off sides on this because

657
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: I just feel like that's a giant no matter who

658
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: he's played. And they're like, oh, he hasn't played anyway,

659
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: he played organ and like he still he still put

660
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: up his numbers. He still put up his numbers. The

661
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: man has twenty five hundred yards in thirteen games, twenty

662
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: four ninety seven to be exact, twenty nine tds. No, No,

663
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: it's literally on pace, you know whatever to break Bery's

664
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: it has been done in thirty seven years.

665
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he does it, if he breaks it, then

666
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I mean if he doesn't break it, no, right,

667
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: but if he breaks it, yeah, no, no question.

668
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: I'll say with with the college playoff situation, he plays

669
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: sixteen games, he breaks three bands, give him, give him

670
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: whatever he desires.

671
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: Give him bro like I've been. I'm still on sides

672
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: with U. Yeah, with Travis, with Travis, but Jent, it's

673
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: going stupid. I wouldn't want to be in that committee room.

674
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: And no doubt, all right, just stick it to the

675
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: college room. Let's go with Deon Sanders coach Prime, consider

676
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: making the lead to the NFL to coach your son.

677
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: All sides, all sides, offside, stay stay in college. You've

678
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: seen a lot of college coaches.

679
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: And Lanning, Dan Lanning might have a better shot. Mm hmm.

680
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: That's just my opinion. Mm hmm.

681
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Look, I'll say you've seen college coaches go pro

682
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: and go get relegated right now?

683
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got you gotta gotta do it. Two three more.

684
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: You can't hit, You can't hit. He can barely hit.

685
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: The n I l come in with your son. That's

686
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: too much pressure mass.

687
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: Then that's pressure you say that, But also you know

688
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: he's he's been his son's coach his entire life.

689
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: And the NFL though, you know that, right, you're going

690
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: to face on the line you're putting, you know, like

691
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: it's like, come on, let's just get in there. Make

692
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: his name. Then if you still want to, then you

693
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: get in there, right? Should should there?

694
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: Sud there doesn't go crazy and he gets replaced and

695
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: you got to replace him.

696
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: Now you're in a predecition you they replace you, right,

697
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: you know they never know what can happen.

698
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I mean you know, Dion's legacy

699
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: is a Hall of fame. Ever nobody can tain his legacy.

700
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: At this point, he's just adding accouture mass like the

701
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: little side dishes to it, like he's having side missions

702
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: of fun.

703
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: I think he's getting too much in Colorado. I wouldn't

704
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give all that right now.

705
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely the NFL, absolutely, yeah, he has full control.

706
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: So why would you give that up to maybe not

707
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 1: have that? All? Right?

708
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: But we're both we're both off sides on that. Bill

709
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: Belichick has agreed to become the unc Football head coach,

710
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: off sides or on side, I'm not affected by it.

711
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: He just wants to go get paid college money and.

712
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: Just get a and and yeah, I'm definitely definitely on side.

713
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: Because now he is full control.

714
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: He had down Neil for control of the Patriots. What

715
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: do you think is going to happen at the college level,

716
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: college level where you can control that. Yeah, yeah, I'm

717
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: good with that one. You see, Hey, Now, as much

718
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: as we play football, and I got a son, I'm like, hey, man,

719
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: go play basketball, go shoot. When you get hurt whatever

720
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: it is, like, you can go, like you can take

721
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: weeks off. You get hurting football, you gotta play through

722
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: that pain, baby, right you you break a ridge?

723
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: He turned down turn down medical assistance in football, Like, nah,

724
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good.

725
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: No, you're limping, No, don't worry about it. I'll be

726
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: all right.

727
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: Basketball, baseball, get a doctor right now. I got you.

728
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: I didn't seen boys get carried off for like a

729
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: greade hamstreaking.

730
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, what I done? Take that up and play

731
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: through it. Ain't no. But either way, Juan Soto signs

732
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: a record breaking.

733
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: MLB deal fifteen years with the Mets, seven sixty five

734
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: the players prioritize loyalty to a team and its fans

735
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: over chasing record breaking contracts outside or onside.

736
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: On side, get your money, mane get your money, not

737
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: a little change, get the whole thing. M I need

738
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: my money, and I need it now.

739
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: Man, I'm too big on loyalty. But if you ever

740
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: break break a record breaking like if I'm like, oh,

741
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: the saintscot you know, twenty or eighteen change for your year,

742
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: and the Miami Dolphins come in with like, hey we

743
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: got thirty seven for you.

744
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: All right?

745
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: Man? Oh man, I really want to stay. Get close, Saints,

746
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: get close. All you gotta do is get close. I

747
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: don't need any record breaking, just get close. Yeah, that'll

748
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: put things in perspective. But also, I've never even touched

749
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: free free agency. I've never had a chance to look

750
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: at the window. So I'm just speaking from biased opinion

751
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: that man. So hey, I'm I'm I'm on side with

752
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: the prior a prioritizing loyalty over money. I'm I'm gonna

753
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: prioritize that on side, all right. Vikings Cam buying them

754
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: and Josh medalist celebration from White Chicks Dance Battle Best

755
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: celebration of the off season offside on side?

756
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: Hey yeah hit that? Hey yeah he did that.

757
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: Nope, I'm gonna say off side, and only because I

758
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 2: want to double back on a cam buying home celebration

759
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 2: when he did the uh the break the Australian Breakdancer joint.

760
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: He did the Australian Breakdancer. Hit him with the final polls.

761
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: It was, it was current relevant just sort of happened

762
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: in this past Olympics. For the relevancy alone, I had

763
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: to go his way. But the fact that they yeah

764
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: they yeah, I'm gonna say all sides just for that

765
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: reason alone.

766
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: They've been going crazy, They've been practicing.

767
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: It, they've been having high success.

768
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Jones over there, Mmmm, that's where he ended up.

769
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we may have depending on how d C

770
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: and out come go, we may have to call him

771
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: four games yeah, four games a bro. Yeah, we got Jake,

772
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: We got Jake Haynes or Spencer Rattlers, so we might

773
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: be all right.

774
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: But also that's who number three was, Jake Han.

775
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can spin, but now you've got to format

776
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: the game plan around him. So like also, you know,

777
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, Okay, we may have to call you, you know, yeah,

778
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: we got we got forty something for you, but got

779
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: four games.

780
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't look into that. But how does

781
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: that work when somebody, like a dude has a big

782
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: contract and then they get traded on their contract or

783
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: he I guess he got released. He got released, so

784
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: what does that mean? So now like he's on a

785
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: new team. So like what he's on a new team.

786
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: So it just depends did he did he get picked

787
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: up active contract or did he was he added practice

788
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: squad guy?

789
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: But either way, he's sort of a you know, at

790
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: this way so that that last contract doesn't get honored.

791
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: He only gets to guarantee money.

792
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, once once you get fired, you get fired,

793
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: so you guaranteed.

794
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: You just do what you're guaranteed and then that's it.

795
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the true guarantees, the true guarantees, because you know,

796
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: guys be like, oh yeah, you know, two hundred million

797
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: dollars contract, one hundred and eighty five guaranteed. But the

798
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: true guarantees, that's the stuff that you know, doesn't bar injury,

799
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: doesn't bar playtime. I'm only looking at true guaranteed money. Like,

800
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: if they fire me today, what do I walk away with?

801
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: Everybody? You know, the.

802
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: Contracts are filled with the sneaky verbage. Now, got to

803
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: know your ins and outs of contracts, but you got

804
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: the right people, you know what I'm saying.

805
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, all right, perfect, Yeah, that's it. That's it,

806
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: hey man. You know, I appreciate you tapping in with

807
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: the pot. You know, like the last four games, O crazy,

808
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Speaker 1: I gotta go get it. Yeah, in fact, get it

809
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810
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Speaker 1: Hopefully I appreciate you.

811
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812
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Speaker 2: tapping in with Off the Edge podcast.

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