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Speaker 1: no one thinks that you can make. But those extraordinary

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Speaker 1: that you need to make absolutely and you know, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about a defensive roster that's loaded, and you had

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Speaker 1: guys that were doing the wrong things, freelancing, not playing

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Speaker 1: to the rules that we've heard so much about. Going

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Speaker 1: back to the gush, Bradley days and through Todd Wash.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that or worrying solely about their position

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Speaker 1: and not the defense as a whole. You can't. You

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Speaker 1: just you can't do that. And so your analysis to

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Speaker 1: pull it all back on track is exactly correct. It

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Speaker 1: is sitting on the fringe right now, and another game

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Speaker 1: like that, it's going over the cliff. You're not there yet.

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Speaker 1: And this is the challenge now is to get back

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Speaker 1: to it this week, go and play your brand of football.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say it again with running game with Carlos

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Speaker 1: Hide and perhaps Leonard for net it makes everything easier

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Speaker 1: and better. Ye, get back to the form. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of pieces involved, but put the pieces together. Fine,

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Speaker 1: good analysis. I like it, Thank you. What's next next

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Speaker 1: is take a deep breath Tuesday, and they're of some

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Speaker 1: deep breaths we have to take, yes, and I picked

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Speaker 1: a few journalistic tweets. Okay, let's go with it today

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Speaker 1: instead of fans, let's go with ESPN Sunday Night football.

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Speaker 1: Jaguar is not training for quarterback, which includes Eli as

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Speaker 1: much love as Executive vice president Tom Coughlin has for him.

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Speaker 1: Jack Lee debut of Carlos Hide eventual return to four

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Speaker 1: net gives them the hammer running back they need for

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Speaker 1: qubs defense and injury riddled old line which still needs

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Speaker 1: somewhat mobile quarterback. It's kind of what we've been saying

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Speaker 1: this morning. Yeah, and we had so many fans saying,

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Speaker 1: go get Eli Manning, go get them. So here's the

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Speaker 1: point here, here's the undersport. You can go and grab

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Speaker 1: a left tackle. Um, you can grab a running back.

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Speaker 1: You can't grab a quarterback mid season. You can't. The

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Speaker 1: timing issues and I get it, even a guy like

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Speaker 1: Eli who is as distinguished as his career has taken him,

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Speaker 1: and the relationships. Yeah right, I get all that. And

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Speaker 1: you can tailor it and you can try, but no,

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Speaker 1: you can't. You can't go get a quarterback and change it.

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Speaker 1: That's that one spot where you have to ride it out. Plus,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have about seven million dollars in cap room

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Speaker 1: right now, and you can maneuver a little bit here,

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Speaker 1: but you're taking on a much bigger number with an

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning. So you've got to look at the finances

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Speaker 1: there as well. What does it force you to do

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Speaker 1: with other players in terms of taking salary converting it

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Speaker 1: to bonus pushing it out into further years and is

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Speaker 1: he worth that? Is he worth doing all of that

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Speaker 1: for the performance he's going to give you. Pay as

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Speaker 1: you go, pay it, claim it, keep yourself in a

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Speaker 1: strong financial position. For those of you who have been

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Speaker 1: around since the deba cole of two thousand one and

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Speaker 1: two thousand two, where the salary cap just eight this

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Speaker 1: team up for years, you don't want to go back,

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Speaker 1: and they haven't been back. But if you start doing that,

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Speaker 1: maneuvering it for a guy that seven years old through

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Speaker 1: yards last night, I get it. But it's a position

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Speaker 1: that you can't just go, here's the ball, go and

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Speaker 1: expect that he's going to come from the offense offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator has never worked with him before, even though Tom

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Speaker 1: has it, it doesn't make any sense. So that was

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Speaker 1: I saw that tweet last night too. I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: you put that in because that is a calm, level

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Speaker 1: headed approach to what they've got to get done. So

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning, take a deep breath. Okay, on to the

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Speaker 1: next one. Another sports journalist Jaguar should call the Raiders

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Speaker 1: and see what the price tag on Derek Cars. So

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Speaker 1: we're going from one quarterback to another. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who Benjamin Albright is, but he should know if he's

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Speaker 1: a journalist and someone that covers the league. You don't

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Speaker 1: go grab another quarterback mid season. It's not the position

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Speaker 1: that you play for. If you want someone for en

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Speaker 1: or you go signed him when you draft someone in

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Speaker 1: the off season. A quarterback just doesn't translate, you know that.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a common sense. Get them ready to

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Speaker 1: play in five days with the whole new playbook. Could

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Speaker 1: you imagine the mess that would bring the Jaguars? Were

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Speaker 1: you born ninety seven? I was. I was two years

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Speaker 1: oldl Right, so let me give you a quick question.

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Speaker 1: Mark Burnell got hurt in New York Jesse Armstad's helmet

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Speaker 1: to his knee. He's out. So they have Rob Johnson

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Speaker 1: who starts an opening day and beats the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Seven played great, sprained his ankle. Okay, WHOA What did

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars do well when Mark got hurt? They signed

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Speaker 1: a guy named Steve Matthews who had played at Memphis

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Speaker 1: and drafted by Kansas City and was just a journeyman quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: Chris Palmer, who was the Jaguars offensive coordinator at the time,

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach quarterbacks coady. Um, now I take that back.

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Speaker 1: He was the offensive Um, I get my confused. But

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Speaker 1: Chris Palmer was the guy who brought Steve Matthews along.

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Speaker 1: They got a bad giant team was starting Dave Brown

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Speaker 1: at quarterback that I remember, and they pounded them that day, right,

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Speaker 1: and Steve Matthews with a starting quarterback. Then a week

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Speaker 1: three Brunelle came back. So stop gap with a powerful defense,

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Speaker 1: with a good surrounding cast, you can get that done, right,

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Speaker 1: You can get that done. Um, But in a very

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Speaker 1: limited situation. They didn't ask him to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: all over the field that day. You weren't gonna go

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Speaker 1: far with Steve Matthews as your quarterback in. It was

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Speaker 1: not going to happen. So occasionally you can, you can

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Speaker 1: fit it in and find a way to get a win,

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Speaker 1: but you still need your guy. If the Jaguards didn't

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Speaker 1: have Brunel in, or if Rob Johnson could have come

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Speaker 1: back and played, they were in trouble one game, Okay,

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Speaker 1: beyond that, No, their car isn't coming in here and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, gonna like the place out not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. No, not a big difference within between him

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Speaker 1: and Blake Bortles, and I understand if I was reading

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Speaker 1: something if Blake Bortles went down with an injury and

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Speaker 1: you would force to bring someone else in as a

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Speaker 1: completely different story. You don't know how Blake Bortles to

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Speaker 1: play the rest. But again, you can't just go out

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Speaker 1: and trade. Remember, go look at the cap number for

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr. It's like Eli Manning. It's over twenty million

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Speaker 1: dollars and you're assuming it. Not you're assuming the whole contract.

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Speaker 1: You have to take what's left of this year, which

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Speaker 1: is what about ten million dollars, and then you've got

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Speaker 1: to take more in future years. Well, that takes away

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Speaker 1: all of your maneuverability. You can't just go randomly say

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Speaker 1: go grab this guy, go grab that guy. The Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are over the cap in they're up against it. They

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Speaker 1: have seven or eight million dollars depending on which cap

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Speaker 1: service you look at left to work with this year.

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Speaker 1: You can't just go randomly throw it out there. Yes,

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Speaker 1: people want to hear the cap stuff because it's like

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Speaker 1: math class. But if you don't, you don't have a

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Speaker 1: basic understanding of the salary cap. You don't have a

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Speaker 1: basic understanding of the maneuverability of how a team can work.

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Speaker 1: What's the website you always tell me to look at?

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Speaker 1: but we must do it to say, Okay, what else

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Speaker 1: are all? Right? Last, take a deep breath Tuesday goes

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Speaker 1: to a loyal Jaguars fan, Drew hickin get mad at

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Speaker 1: Jalen for talking all you want boy is the corner

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Speaker 1: off judgment on this one and ask Jeff what he

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Speaker 1: comes in here. All right, So let's take a deep

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Speaker 1: hear from Jeff Logaman what he's seen on the tape

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Jaguars leave for London on Thursday. UM. I

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Speaker 1: think this is an advantage. There are people have different

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Speaker 1: opinions of this. Although the Jaguars have won three in

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Speaker 1: their normal Friday routine, normal Saturday routine, play the game

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Speaker 1: and come home. Last year, we watched the Ravens kind

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Speaker 1: this team was on top of them. Game was over. Um,

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Speaker 1: all that well right now. I don't expect to necessarily sleepwalk.

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Speaker 1: But there is an advantage to a team that knows

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Speaker 1: research you want, but the Jaguars players, most of them,

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Speaker 1: understand how to make this trip. Yeah. I expect the

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Speaker 1: and a close one. Yeah. Well, and look, the storyline

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Speaker 1: is two teams trying to save their season. Right. The

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Speaker 1: Eagles are a game back of the Redskins, the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: a game back of the Texans. Right. Okay, so there

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Speaker 1: we are. There are the storylines. Jaguars leave on Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: They'll have today off, They'll have a normal day tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: a reasonably normal day on Thursday. In other words, they'll

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Speaker 1: be here. They'll go through their meetings and their their

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Speaker 1: schedule and practice, and then after practice, instead of going home,

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Speaker 1: they go to the airport for the flight to London.

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Speaker 1: All right, time for agreed to disagree. This is where

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Speaker 1: we put it out there via Twitter. You throw a

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Speaker 1: disagree with it. So let's have number one. We're screwed

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Speaker 1: up by passing on Lamar Jackson and taking Taven Brian. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Not a surprise that that came in yesterday. Uh disagree

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Speaker 1: for this reason. The time will tell Tavin is contributing.

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Speaker 1: I will ask Jeff to what degree Lamar Jackson isn't.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like you could put Lamar Jackson out

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Speaker 1: on the field and reasonably expect to win. When you're

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Speaker 1: talking about rookies, and especially rookie quarterbacks, and especially rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks who have to learn the NFL system because Lamar

645
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Speaker 1: did not come in as an NFL ready quarterback, that

646
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Speaker 1: it's too early to make that statement. It doesn't translate,

647
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Speaker 1: does not translate right now, So disagree with it. But

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Speaker 1: in a year or two, yeah, maybe you could say

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Speaker 1: they screwed up and we'd agree, right disagree because you

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Speaker 1: took Taven Bryan for the future, not for the president.

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Speaker 1: He took Taven Brian because CLIs Campell. We know he's

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Speaker 1: banged up two n twenty. I think then you see

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Speaker 1: the success of taking Taven Bryan well, and look, you

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Speaker 1: haven't had Dwan Smoot. Who is you know he struggled

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Speaker 1: through camp and didn't get a chance to play a lot. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If Dwan Smooth is the only guy who's playing that

657
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Speaker 1: big end spot, you're gonna struggle. Having a big body

658
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Speaker 1: like Taven Bryant gives them something. So they're getting more

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Speaker 1: from Brian than the Ravens are getting from Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: At this point, hold on, hold on in that thought,

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Speaker 1: you almost have to have agree, disagree or hold on

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Speaker 1: all right up next. I'm not normally negative on agree

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Speaker 1: to disagree, but I think Andrew Norwell is Zane Beatles

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Speaker 1: two point oh. He has to play better agree with

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Speaker 1: the last statement. Not quite sure about the Zane Beatles

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Speaker 1: two point oh. At this point, remember he had the

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Speaker 1: calf in um in training camp and missed a lot

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Speaker 1: of time and now has been playing with the toe.

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Speaker 1: If you got a chance to see him, you'd say

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Speaker 1: he's gutting it out. He's not playing well, it really

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Speaker 1: he's not playing well, I'll let I'll let Logs talk

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Speaker 1: about this. But he's playing hurt. He's playing hurt, he's

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Speaker 1: playing with the toe, He's made some mistakes. Absolutely agree,

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Speaker 1: you're paying thirteen million dollars a year for a guard.

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Speaker 1: He better be a dominant player in right now, he's

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Speaker 1: not agree. He's got to play better. Agree because if

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Speaker 1: he was healthy, you think he would be that dominant

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Speaker 1: player that he was brought into be. So another stay

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Speaker 1: tuned on that one. He would get healthy. He was

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Speaker 1: All Pro, All Pro, not Pro Bowl, which is a

681
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Speaker 1: popularity contest, but All Pro at guard last year. Was

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Speaker 1: a dominant player for Carolina. Here's the other thing. That

683
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have not been able to play the style of

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Speaker 1: football that you brought him in to play, the power

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Speaker 1: running game. Right, So he's been hurt. They haven't played

686
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: that style of ball. They haven't had Leonard obviously on

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Speaker 1: the field. We'll see what happens when they get Carlos

688
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: side and Lendard Finnette out there. But he has to

689
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: play better, no doubt. Up next, uh, Colin Kaepernick would

690
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: leave the Jags to the Super Bowl. Go back and

691
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: look at Collins last season in San Francisco. Right, I

692
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Speaker 1: get it. He did it once with San Francisco. That

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Speaker 1: was with a dominant San Francisco defense. He has a

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Speaker 1: huge arm, get it, But go back and look he

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Speaker 1: just go back and look at that, and he was not.

696
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Speaker 1: Plus he hasn't been playing, so I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you say that. So I totally disagree with it. Totally disagree.

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Speaker 1: He has not seen the field in so long. Ye

699
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Speaker 1: find a job, work his way through. It played better

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Speaker 1: than he did the last year or two in San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: and then maybe we'd degree. But at this point that

702
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Speaker 1: is a wild reach, but not not unrecognized. Not that

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Speaker 1: we didn't expect it to come. Oh, there were so

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Speaker 1: many comments about Colin Cash without a doubt he was

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Speaker 1: of highly talked about topic. Again, Right, well, Eli Manning,

706
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Colin Kaepernick, basically anybody but Blake Bortles, which

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Speaker 1: it's completely expected. You got it up. Next next week,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey starts at wide receiver and Callias Campbell starts

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Speaker 1: at left tackle. Not uh, not that either one of

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Speaker 1: them couldn't play and perform, because they're tremendous football players.

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Speaker 1: Um the skills just don't translate, right. I mean, I

712
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 1: have seen Jalen Ramsey makes some spectacular catches that could

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Speaker 1: be for a wide receiver. But that's more reasonable to

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Speaker 1: remember too that Calais's entire body of work as a

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Speaker 1: professional football player has been coming forward, and most left

716
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Speaker 1: tackles go backwards. The reason Tony Boselli was a great

717
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: player was that he could go backwards faster and more

718
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Speaker 1: athletically than a lot of guys could go forward. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure you could say the same about a

720
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: guy who's played left or right defensive is no big deal.

721
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Speaker 1: Just switch everything you know for a week. If you

722
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: brought Ramsey and here he tell you that he could

723
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: play goalie, he could play hockey in anything. Um, and

724
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Speaker 1: athletically speaking, he probably could get you something. But no, okay,

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Speaker 1: I disagree on that final one. Because of the contract

726
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: Blake signed, we are stuck with him as our starting

727
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: quarterback in twenty nineteen. Um, he'll be here. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a negative connotation. But you made the

729
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: financial commitment. We've been through this. They decided on a

730
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Speaker 1: style of play, they committed their team and their salary

731
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Speaker 1: cap to it. So yeah, because the dead money hit

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Speaker 1: if he's not here would be huge and remove remove

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Speaker 1: all maneuverability. Now, Um, anything can happen. They've got smart

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Speaker 1: guys that run their cap. They could have a a

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Speaker 1: break glass in case of emergency plan. Right, you don't

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Speaker 1: know what it is, um, but you paid him and

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Speaker 1: be the guy. Yeah, we've outlined that for all those reasons. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how about a quick run through a few headlines and

739
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: then we'll take a break in. Then Jeff Lockerman will

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Speaker 1: join us for a couple of minutes to wrap up

741
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Speaker 1: a Tuesday show. Uh. The first out of the gate

742
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Speaker 1: is they're not relying on Luck any longer. By luck,

743
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Speaker 1: I mean just blind luck. Andrew Luck. Before he got hurt,

744
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: he was that guy that would charge out in front

745
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: of people and throw a block on Sunday against the Bills.

746
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: He noticeably refrained from doing that. He's playing a different

747
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: brand of football than that all out guy, which makes sense, right,

748
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: you'd say that's the way a quarterback should play. And

749
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Speaker 1: that's what Luck has said, is that it's more important

750
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Speaker 1: and he's figured this out to be on the field

751
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: as a quarterback than to be standing on the sideline

752
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: as an all around football player, So it's working for him.

753
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: He's staying healthy. And uh, their roster is not complete

754
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: enough to be a contender at this moment in time.

755
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: But when you have Andrew luck, you have a chance

756
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Speaker 1: to win on any given Sunday afternoon. They haven't had

757
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: in a couple of years without him. Moving right along

758
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: through the headlines this morning. Uh, Steve Wilkes, the new

759
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, was the defensive coordinator

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00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: last year in Carolina. So what do you think he

761
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: thought when Patrick Peterson, the seven time Pro Bowl, three

762
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Speaker 1: time All Pro cover corner one of the best in

763
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: the game, said I want to be traded. The reports

764
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Speaker 1: are he desperately wants out of the desert there one

765
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Speaker 1: in six they're going nowhere this year. He's a twenty

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Speaker 1: eight year old corner. He wants the chance to play

767
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: again in the postseason, so he desperately wants out. Um,

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Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, the head coach, said, uh, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no chance of that happening. Out of the question were

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Speaker 1: his words. They're gonna sit down and talk, So no

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Speaker 1: trade in the works there. And finally from the headlines,

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Speaker 1: how about the Raiders? Right? I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 1: they take the best I want, yeah, the best pass resturant, right,

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Speaker 1: and trade him to the Chicago Bears for picks. And

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Speaker 1: then yesterday they trade this guy, Amari Cooper for picks. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There's been talk about Derek Carr, but very few teams

777
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: can take on that contract. There are other players out there. Look,

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Speaker 1: Rudin's taking mandage of the situation. This is the last

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Speaker 1: year that they are under contract to play at the

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Speaker 1: Oakland Alameda County Commisseum. I think it's the O dot

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Speaker 1: Co Colisseum. Now um, they're not sure where they're playing

782
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: next year, and so what do you have to lose.

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00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: He's got a ten year contract. They don't know that

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Speaker 1: they're playing there next year. They're playing for two years

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Speaker 1: down the road when they'll open up a brand new

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00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: stadium in Las Vegas. No shock at all. Good player,

787
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: inconsistent player. Dallas gives up a first round pick. They

788
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Speaker 1: hope it helps their quarterback. This helps their bottom line.

789
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Speaker 1: They've got three first round picks next year. Who knows

790
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Speaker 1: what else they can pull out of the fire. But

791
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Speaker 1: the guys, it's funny and this is how quickly things change.

792
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, they were a playoff team.

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00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Derek car gets hurt, so they don't go very far.

794
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: But they had the makings of a team that you

795
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Speaker 1: thought that's going to be a power in the West. Nope,

796
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Speaker 1: change coaches, change philosophies. Away, it goes moving to Las

797
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Speaker 1: Vegas instability. But Gruden has his plan and he's working

798
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Speaker 1: through its trading the present team away to build for

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Speaker 1: the future. But and a unique situation because they're not

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Speaker 1: going to be playing in Oakland. I guess they could

801
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Speaker 1: come back and get a deal done. But if you're

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Speaker 1: reading any of the stories out of Oakland, you know

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Speaker 1: the news stories about the negotiations, they don't look all

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Speaker 1: that promising. They're talking about San Diego, they're talking about

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Speaker 1: playing at UNLV Stadium, although I think that was just

806
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 1: recently completely flat out rejected. They're going to find something.

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Speaker 1: Oh the other one is to play in San Francisco

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Speaker 1: Stadium LEVI Stadium, so you don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: your fan based in Oakland buying tickets because they're not

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Speaker 1: expecting them too next year, which is a unique situation,

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Speaker 1: entirely unique. Yes, absolutely, all right, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lghman joins us. Next, we'll ask him some of

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Speaker 1: these questions about what he sees from a j boyer

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Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell what he needs to see this week for

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars to get things going in the right direction again.

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Speaker 1: Field on it feels like Thursday, already on Tuesday. Brian Ashlyn,

847
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: you all know Jeff Loghman. How do you feel? I

848
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: feel great? Good? Yeah, I feel great. Played the game

849
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: ten years. You might have some mornings where you don't

850
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: feel I mean, everything's all relative, but for a Tuesday,

851
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good. All right, we'll hit us with

852
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the announcement that Blake is the starting

853
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: quarterback yesterday afternoon. Did you see that coming? Did you

854
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: think that was the best decision? I really don't. Didn't

855
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: know what was gonna happen, because people had asked me

856
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: what do you think they should do? And I think

857
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: I had three different changes of my mind throughout the

858
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: core so the day and uh, but you know, Blake

859
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: showed throughout training camp and for a long period of

860
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: time that he was the better quarterback, and so I

861
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: think you have to go back to that and and

862
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: try to get things better around him so that he

863
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: can perform at his best. And right now things around

864
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: him aren't at its best, and and it doesn't allow

865
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: him to be at his best. Not to make excuses

866
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: for him, because there's a lot of things that he's

867
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: got to do better. But I think the one thing

868
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: that was very apparent in that game is that he

869
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: was trying to do too much. You know, he's trying

870
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: to win it and will this team to victory with

871
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: his legs. He got sloppy with the ball, which can

872
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: happen sometimes, but you just can't turn the ball because

873
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: I think the the whole game plan offensively in that

874
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: game was about protecting the football, and you could tell

875
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: right away because it was run, run past, and then

876
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: obviously scrambles and the third play offensive play of the game,

877
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: he fumbles the ball. But that's what the game plan was.

878
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna go back to the old way of playing,

879
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: which is how they played at the beginning of last year.

880
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: It's how they played against the Buffalo Bills in the

881
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: playoff game. Run to football, protect the football, play great defense,

882
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: and let the opponents screw it up to give you

883
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: an opportunity to win it. Carlos Hide, I know you

884
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to watch a lot of tape

885
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: of him, but the ability they haven't had a power

886
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: running game at all this year. Power running brings a

887
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: lot of different things back into play. It should allow

888
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: Blake to not have to do everything right, yes, and

889
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: it will also allow your offensive line to do what

890
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: they do best. Because Norahwell is a run block, smash

891
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: mouth guard. That's the kind of offense that he needs

892
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: to be in. And he's not right now. Well, he's

893
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: playing in an offense right now, that's playing from behind

894
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: by twenty four points and twenty points and trying to

895
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: be a pass blocker. And I don't care who you are.

896
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: When you try to block Jadavin Clowney and he's a

897
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: stand up inside linebacker and you're one on one against him,

898
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna get embarrassed. And the way you don't have

899
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: to do that is run the football up. Clowney's rare

900
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: in and you don't have to worry about blocking in

901
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: one on one in that situation. Right, Yeah, it makes sense.

902
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know what kind of a

903
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: player Carlos Hate is. I just know his numbers like

904
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: anybody else. I haven't watched a lot of film on

905
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: other than what we've been able to see in the past.

906
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: But he's a good, strong, physical runner. I do know that.

907
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: And even if you have Leonard Fournett, who has shown

908
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: that he's on average back, Okay, now you have two

909
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: big backs and you can have a one too and

910
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: all three punch with t J. Yelding. So and if

911
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: you're going to survive this year, that's what you've got

912
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: to be able to go back to as an offense.

913
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: When I say, go back to, not go back to

914
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: like they've done it this year, but go back to

915
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: well that's what they used to do last year. She

916
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: played against the Chiefs when they had Christian Koya and

917
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Berry Word. Yeah, and so I used that reference is

918
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: from the early berry Word was a Virginia guy. I

919
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: remember him. He was a really good player at just

920
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: the education there. That's a Virginia Institution of Fine Learning,

921
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: by the way, founded by Thomas Jefferson Uh and Magna

922
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: cum laude there. But the point is is I remember

923
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: that team because they had Don not Don mccowski, Yeah,

924
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: Don Mikowski, Steve Burke too. Yeah, I thought you were

925
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: going back to v A. Brian I was getting. But

926
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: my point is that they didn't have a powerful passing game,

927
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: but they had a great defense with Derek uh Thomas,

928
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: Jack Thomas and Neil Smith. Smith was tremendous, right, Okay,

929
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: so they played to it with Sala. Yeah. I mean

930
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: if you talk about flashbacks and hey, well that's why

931
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: I brought it to you. They pounded the ball and

932
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: teams couldn't they just they wore down against the two

933
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: power backs. So my contention is, if you get for

934
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: net even even if he's not the electrifying fourth pick

935
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: at the draft. With Carlos Hide, you have a chance

936
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: to really pound and get the defense back to a

937
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: position where they need to be. Right well, well, the

938
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: defense needs to get back to that regardless of what

939
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: the offense is doing. And I have a lot of

940
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: people are kind of down on the defense. The reality

941
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: is that they're not playing bad. They're just not playing

942
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: to the standard that we've kind of come accustomed to to,

943
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: where they're winning games by scoring on defense and taking

944
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: the ball away in Saxonville, that those type of things

945
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: aren't happening. And right now, the way this team is going,

946
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: they need to get back to that level if they're

947
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna win games. Because you and you kind of got

948
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: the impression I think after the Kansa City game, definitely

949
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: not so much after the Dallas Cowboy games, but from

950
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: the Kanna City game before, is that the defense was

951
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: still incredibly proud of what they had done, even even

952
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: in defeat. That's not the way it's supposed to be, right,

953
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: you know. Here, here's how you measure whether you play

954
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: good on defense or not. Did you win? And I

955
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: think that was the part that kind of rubbed me

956
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: the wrong way after the Kann City game because they

957
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: were down twenty and nothing on the field and their

958
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: smack talking going on by the Jaguars defensively, Wait a minute,

959
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: look at the scoreboard, okay, And let's not talk smack

960
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: unless you're winning. And so I think they got a

961
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: dose of reality against the Dallas Cowboys, and they certainly

962
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: got one against the Texans because they allowed another Hunter

963
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: yard rusher. And so they need to tighten up. But

964
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: they're not terrible. It. For this football team to win

965
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: the way they are playing on offense, your defense has

966
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: to play fantastic. And don't don't tell me how you

967
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: played unless you can tell me you've played well in

968
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: victory in one. Uh, you had Clais obviously on All

969
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: Access last night. And Marcel Darius, can you give us

970
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: a sense of their expectations of what this defense needs

971
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: to do that you know, if you bring anything up

972
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: to them about you know, this defense is certainly capable

973
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: of reaching a higher level they're capable of taking up.

974
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: They know it. I mean they know it. And and

975
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: Calais and Marcel both realize that what the defense and

976
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: where the defense is at right now it's not. It's

977
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: not where they need to be for them to win.

978
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: They get it, and I think as a team, I

979
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: think that is starting now. Instead of having a few

980
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: believe it, I think now you're starting to see them

981
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: as a unit start to believe that. And and that's

982
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: the only way things get done if if an entire

983
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: unit is not on the same page. I guess they

984
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: reportedly had a player's only meeting they talked about Uh,

985
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: well they should say they talked around it. They didn't

986
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: talk about the meeting. Uh So maybe that helps, Maybe

987
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't. I don't know. I'm sure you've been in both. Yeah.

988
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: I mean I've I've been in situations where it helped

989
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: and I've been in situations where it doesn't help. And

990
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: the only one that I've ever been a part of

991
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: that helped was the one that we had in nine

992
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 1: and it was Was that the reason why we turned

993
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: it around? Probably not, but you know, you point to

994
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: it and you say, well, you know what, we were

995
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: playing pretty crappy and then we had players only meeting

996
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: and then we turned it around. So yeah, that might

997
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: help at least maybe they clear the air. I hope,

998
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: because you know that you could see that there was

999
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: some sideline join going on. That is not healthy. And

1000
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: unless you can be all in lockstep going in one direction,

1001
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: it's not positive. Who was the other player that we

1002
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: were supposed to ask him about? Joy? We had a question,

1003
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: is he playing well? Is he playing better than Jalen Ramsey?

1004
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: What's the question? Obviously they're not both playing on the

1005
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: highest level. That's an easy answer. No. Last year I

1006
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: could make the argument that he was playing better than

1007
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. This year I cannot say that. And last

1008
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: year there are so many times where I would watch

1009
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: the film and go, oh, my gosh, does a J

1010
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: have the offensive game plan? Because he's running the route

1011
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: for guys, I mean literally running the route. So let's

1012
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: say they're running a fifteen yard out. A J is

1013
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: at fifteen yards and he's already starting to turn out

1014
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: and the wide receiver still at ten and you go,

1015
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: how does he know that? And I haven't seen that

1016
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: as much this year? And is it because of of

1017
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: the game plan? Offensively? I don't know, but I'm not

1018
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: seeing him play at the same level. He's still good,

1019
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, He's still good. But I think

1020
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: that's what you would say about a lot of guys

1021
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: on defense. But he's still good, but it's not great.

1022
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: It's not the level that it was last year, and

1023
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: for them to win, that level needs to be at

1024
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: what it was last year. Try linked to London. I

1025
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: know you sometimes work ahead. Have you had a chance

1026
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: to look at the Eagles and your first observations. Obviously

1027
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: they're not playing great because they're not winning. What do

1028
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: you see from them? Well, they gave up what seven

1029
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: team point lead that they had last week, and offensively,

1030
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: I haven't looked too much as a little bit of

1031
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: their offense, but I look more at their defense. Will

1032
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: comment more specifically about their defense. They have a lot

1033
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: of players that can roll in and out of the game,

1034
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: and they have a very good front group of seven

1035
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: players that can play good football. The back end it's

1036
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: probably not playing what it has been accustomed to in Philadelphia.

1037
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: So I think the Jaguars need to do one thing.

1038
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to run football against that front

1039
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: front group of people, because Michael Bennett and Chris Long

1040
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: and Fletcher Cox, I mean, they're really good football players

1041
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: and the only way that you can keep them off bounces,

1042
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: you can put them on their heels by running the football.

1043
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: What would you do at left tackle? Is Eric Flowers

1044
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: a guy they ought to investigate putting in it left

1045
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: tackle instead of Josh Walker, former ninth pick of the draft.

1046
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: You hot to figure at least he gives you a

1047
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: better shot. That's a great question. And I'm I think

1048
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: you would consider it based on what you were seeing

1049
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: in practice, and you would have to see something in

1050
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: practice that says to you he's a better option. Two

1051
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: things about that. One is it's hard. It's hard to

1052
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: get a feel for that in practice because they practice

1053
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: kind of an unlimited fashion in a regular season. It's

1054
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: not like training camp. So how do you get a

1055
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: real strong evaluation. So, and Josh Walker has been okay,

1056
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: tell me he's essentially a guard playing tackle. But he

1057
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Speaker 1: him he did okay, I mean he's still okay. He's

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Speaker 1: not you know, he's not all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback look out, you know. I mean, so that's okay.

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Speaker 1: And he's a good run blocker, and he's tough, and

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Speaker 1: he likes to he likes to kind of mix it

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Speaker 1: up a little bit. So you know, and tell Eric

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Speaker 1: Flowers shows that he's clearly better than Josh Walker or

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Speaker 1: Josh Walker falters, then you kind of stay status quo.

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Speaker 1: But you didn't see that on Sunday, even in the

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Speaker 1: late in the ball game when they were coming. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's like the that's like the worst

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Speaker 1: thing in the world for Josh Walker situation for him

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Speaker 1: to be in. But I mean, let's let's avus a

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Speaker 1: great players. Yeah, let's evaluate what Eric Flowers has shown

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Speaker 1: in that situation. It has been very good as well.

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Speaker 1: So you know, that's not an easy decision to make.

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Speaker 1: But I said it before the game last week and

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Speaker 1: and said it on Film Room Friday that Clowney is

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Speaker 1: one of the top five most disruptive players in the

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Speaker 1: National Football and he showed anything you wanted to do,

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Speaker 1: rush the passer, play the run. He lines up anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he he probably is better lining up as

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00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: an inside linebacker and having a head of steam coming

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Speaker 1: in and Facebook card because he beat a j Can

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Speaker 1: like that, he beat Norwell like that. Uh. He whooped

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Speaker 1: up on the tight ends, Grinage and Shatley. When Shatley

1083
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: was in there, he beat up on the tackles. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a he's a great football one. More thought um

1085
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Speaker 1: the Jack Ward signed Jeremy Parnell in two thousand and

1086
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: sixteen to play against j J. Watt and what has

1087
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Speaker 1: not been healthy. He just the last two years he

1088
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Speaker 1: hasn't been out. How did How did Parnell do against? What?

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Speaker 1: Did well? Except for one play? Well, one play that

1090
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Speaker 1: he was real soft around the edge. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what he hit Blake as he was releasing the ball.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, I mean he did a really

1093
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Speaker 1: good job. You thought Watton playing well. He's been playing well.

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Speaker 1: He's still not playing at the level that he was

1095
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Speaker 1: at when he was league key or defensive m v P.

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Speaker 1: But and you can see that his legs aren't what

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Speaker 1: they used to be, you know, as far as because

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00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: j J. Watt used to be able to bend what

1099
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Speaker 1: iously bend the corner and and really power through and

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Speaker 1: he'd be twelve inches off the ground and still still

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Speaker 1: kind of running and moving forward and he can't do

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Speaker 1: that anymore. But he's playing the game more physical, whereas

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00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: before j J was off finesse and movement. But he

1104
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: gave the impression that he was physical and a lot

1105
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: of guys were scared to death getting bull rushed and

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Speaker 1: that's not what his style was. But J's actually now

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Speaker 1: bull rushing, so his game has changed a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But Parnell I thought did a good he did a

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Speaker 1: good enough job to win against J. J. Watt. All right,

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Speaker 1: thanks as always, we appreciate you. And that'll do it

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Speaker 1: for Jack's drive time. On a Tuesday, Jags leave for

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Speaker 1: London on Thursday. What's film or Friday this week? Do

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Speaker 1: you know yet? I'm not having one because of the trip,

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Speaker 1: which is which is great for me, which is great

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Speaker 1: for me. But I did tweet up some stuff. Hey,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that's great stuff. Yeah, we look forward

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Speaker 1: to it up. I'm forced to do it Twitter, famous

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Speaker 1: social mediating tweet. Yeah, Patrick Having is making you. We'll

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Speaker 1: take it. We'll take a time out. We're done, see folks,