1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to our best of Christmas show, looking back 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: with Rush and looking forward with Clay and Buck. This 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: is Buck in NYC as the Unfortunately, the COVID panic 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: is surging all around us. The virus is surging all 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: around New York City as well as the whole More 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Feast and a lot of parts of the country. We're 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty two here, and we're six months 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: basically on the air here on the Clay and Buck Show, 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: and we really mean it from the bottom of our hearts. 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening, for giving us a chance. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: We know what we were stepping into here. We know 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: how much respect and how much gravitas this position deserves 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: because of what Rush turned it into over the course 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: of decades. And I've been saying to people and it's 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: sort of sticks. No one can fill rush His shoes, 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: but so I just figured I'll try to fill one 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: and Clay will try to fill the other other, and 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: we'll do the best we can. And you've given us 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: a shot, and we really do appreciate the response you've 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: had because you know we're here for the mission. I'm 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: here for the mission every day right Clay and I 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: are going after it, trying to spread the truth, trying 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: to defend freedom in this country, and to speak for 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: a lot of you, millions of you, literally millions of 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: you across the country who don't have a radio show, 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: but share our beliefs, share our principles, and know how 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: important these fights are. And to that end, we have 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: to understand this as a strategy. We are in a 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: battle for the future of this country, and we need 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: to do a lot more than just talk about what's 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: going wrong with the left. People say, well, what can 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: we do? How do we change things? I mean, sure 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: the communists want to ruin things, but how do we 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: make everything better? Well, one way is to build our 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: own platforms and systems and support each other. Every time 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: you listen to the show, every time you and by 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: the way, I am a capitalist, so I say this unabashedly. 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Every time you check out and support one of our sponsors, 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: you're voting in favor of what we talk about, the principles, 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: views and values of this show. Every day, every phone call, 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: every purchase, everything you do, every time you tell somebody 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: about it. But the right needs to do more than 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: just what has existed in the past, and we view 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: this play, and I here on this shows as honestly 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: a sacred obligation to Conservatism into America to use this 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: incredible I've said, the unsingable aircraft carrier of free speech 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: to try and help others also in the fight to 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: build out. You know, I'm somebody. One of the knocks 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: on me in the business has been I don't view 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: other conservatives as competitors. I view them as allies and 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: people along the way. So that's why you don't hear. 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: But I don't trash other Conservatives. I don't go after them. 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: And people on the way have given me tremendous solved 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: none more show than Rush. But also Glenn Beck was 55 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: enormously helpful to me in the early days. Always thankful 56 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: to Glenn for that giving me my first real shot, 57 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: and then Rush giving me my first real break. So 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: we want to build hold out more. Rush understood this, 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Russia agreed with this. I want to play for you 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: what he said. It's going to be a little bit 61 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: of a longer segment here. I want I want you 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: to hear what Rush said in June of twenty twenty 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: about creating what we could call a conservative medium mothership 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: here and expanding it out and how we can win 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the future with it. Here's what any of you might remember. 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: The former guest host on this program, Buck Sexta of 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: the CIA. Buck has been on a tweet storm and 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: had to put it in one of those uh one 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: of those uh thread apps because there's so many tweets 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: and he's ticked off at at how conservative everything has 71 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: just given up. Has just seated the country, seated, Hollywood, 72 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: seated music, seeded television, the media, seated everything. Doesn't understand it. 73 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: If one of the conservative billionaires out there has any 74 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: stomach for saving their country from this mob, they should 75 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: buy and flip a major media platform or fund a 76 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: new one and make it an unsinkable aircraft carrier of 77 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: true free speech. And I get this a lot. I've 78 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: had this question of why doesn't some wealthy conservative come 79 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: along and buy CBS or ABC or anything else. I 80 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: don't know, I have no idea. I happen to know 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: that a bunch of people who have bought networks are 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: not flaming leftists, and they never do anything to change 83 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: the news networks that are part of the corporations that 84 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: they have purchased. Buck Sexton continues we are completely outgunned 85 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: in the platform wars, and it's only getting worse. All 86 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: a major social media and streaming content companies are part 87 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: of the liberal death star. Stop sending checks to think 88 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: tanks that overpay second tier scholars to churn out policy papers. 89 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: If five people read, he's thinking about people like Bill 90 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: Crystal and Jonah Goldberg and the never Trumper contingent, who 91 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: at one time or another have worked at think tanks 92 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: where they have sought your donation on the basis that 93 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: they and they alone are carrying the conservative banner into battle, 94 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: when in fact most people never heard of them. It 95 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be he says. This new enterprise 96 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be conservative in mission. It would 97 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: soon become dominated by conservatives, though if it adamantly refused 98 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: to censor speech to the woke mob, the left can 99 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: no longer debate like sane people. But they don't have to. 100 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: They just point, scream, and cancel. Meanwhile, I know ultra 101 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: wealthy conservatives who are terrified of anybody finding out what 102 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: their politics are because to be accepted among the elite, 103 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: you have to at least allow those around you to 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: believe that your woke and live. And by the way, 105 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: I can confirm that I have over the course of 106 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: my career, I have met and been introduced to some 107 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: of the wealthiest conservatives. I didn't even I didn't even 108 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: know they existed in real estate and high financing California, 109 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: in whatever business in New York. And the last thing 110 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: they ever wanted anybody to know was their politics. Some 111 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: of them didn't want anybody to know that they supported 112 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: George W. Bush. And I remember scratching my head, said 113 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: why what they said, Well, you know Bush's studies and embarrassment. 114 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: I have a tough time explaining to them that wasn't it. 115 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: That was just a convenient excuse. They valued their social 116 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: status more than their political portfolio. He says, all of 117 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: this adds up to a massive cultural failing of the right, 118 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: and where are the older leaders in conservative media building 119 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: up the next generation. Folks on our side seem obsessed 120 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: with their own brands protecting their turf, which is a 121 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: small slice of the media landscape. We need more voices 122 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: with serious platforms that we control. Here again, I know 123 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: exactly what he's talking about. There was a there was 124 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: a seminal moment that you may not agree with this, 125 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: there was a seminal moment with the passing of William F. 126 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: Buckley Junior. Now William F. Buckley Junior had retired years 127 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: before he passed away, but he was the quote unquote 128 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: father of the intellectual conservative movement. And the thing that 129 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Buckley had the ability to do was annoint and grant 130 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: approval to newly arrived young conservatives, and he did, and 131 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: he bestowed upon them credibility that resulted from him. He 132 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: had that kind of credibility. He had that kind of 133 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: juice that if somebody knew came along, he wasn't threatened 134 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: by their existence. His National Review Empire. He didn't. He 135 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: didn't think, oh my god, I gotta I gotta protect 136 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: this this guy could overtake me, and didn't think that way. 137 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: He was truly a movement guy. But when he passed away, 138 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: all that ended. And what happened what replaced Buckley was 139 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: a battle that's still raging over the smartest conservative in 140 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: the room and who is it and who gets to 141 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: decide it? And there isn't There isn't a conservative movement 142 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: that has a forced leader individual who is attempting to 143 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: encourage younger members and even the younger members don't seem 144 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: to have much of an ambition. The joke around Washington 145 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: today among young conservatives is if they can get a 146 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Fox newsgig in a book deal, they consider their careers 147 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: to have been made. There's enough money and enough prestige 148 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: there to say they've made it. Well. What's not included 149 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: at a Fox News deal in a book fox newsgig 150 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: in a book deal. No persuasion, no expanding the universe, 151 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: no expanding a movement. That's what Buck Sexton, formerly the CIA, 152 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: is talking about here. Where are the older leaders in 153 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: conservative media who are welcoming and building up the next generation. 154 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: We have people more concerned with protecting their own brands 155 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: and their own turf, which individually, these conservatives we're talking 156 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: about are so tiny and small that nobody knows they 157 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: are anyway. We need more voices, and we need more 158 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: encouragement for those voices. But at the same time, the 159 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: young arrivals are not completely immune from the problem. You know, 160 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: book deal in a Fox News gig, and that's the 161 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: definition of making it and the two do go together, 162 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: But it is not the kind of stuff that a 163 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: building growing, planting deep roots kind of movement is based 164 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: on He says, when I first got into media, this 165 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: is Buck Sexton here, formerly of the CIA. When I 166 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: first got into media, I thought our side would be 167 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: like pro sports. Generally, the veterans would want to bring 168 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: up the rookies as part of the natural order to 169 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: help the team win. Conservative media is more like warring cartels. 170 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: Many of the big names just want to stamp out 171 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: the up starts. And Buck Sexton, formerly of the CIA, says, 172 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: I know you could say that's just business, but this 173 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: is supposed to be about more than that. And in 174 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: some big names out there pretend that the fame and 175 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: the money don't matter m all. It's just the cause, 176 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: and they build brands on that premise to their audience, 177 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: and they're full of it. Our side is losing right now. 178 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: We have the left on a mad cancel spree. Nobody 179 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: is safe from it. The Supreme Court is a liberal 180 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: super legislature. Corporate America is in radical left back pocket. 181 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: We're hoping Trump pulls off a miracle this fall, but 182 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: what if he fails. Whoever wins this fall, we're still 183 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: going to be living in a country where you'll be tweeting. 184 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna be facebooking, it be Amazon priming, youtubing, Instagram posting, 185 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: Netflix watching, Hulu streaming based on the curated tastes and 186 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: activism of the left. We lose if this continues, full stop, 187 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: and honestly, writes Buck Sexton, formerly of the CIA, if 188 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: we don't do something about this, we deserve to lose. 189 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: Who thought that it was a sustainable plan to just 190 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: seed ninety percent of the media. Hollywood, Academia and now 191 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: corporate America did this, won't mob. We need to build 192 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: conservative media motherships right now, This, my friends, is our 193 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: conservative media mothership. Rush is the one who built it, 194 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: and we will continue to fly it do the best 195 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: we can fight for those causes. And of course, as 196 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Rush was talking about that older generation bringing up the 197 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: young guns, mentoring, teaching, building, that was Rush. That's what 198 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: he did for me, That's what he's done for so 199 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: many others. So I thought you should hear that. What's 200 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: our mission, the conservative media mothership in twenty twenty two, 201 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: that builds up conservatives, that holds politicians to account, including 202 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: on our side, and tries to win the fight for 203 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: this country. That is our mission and we take it directly. 204 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: As you heard there from Rush himself, Clay Travis, and 205 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. A new form of broadcast excellence inspired by 206 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: Rush on the e I be network Sal in Eastern Pa. Sal, 207 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: you're a speech and debate coach. That's right. I coach 208 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: at Notre Dame High School in eastern Pennsylvania. And when 209 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: you talked about competing for regions, We've competed against you 210 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: a couple of times in some regional tournaments. Yeah, how 211 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: we do. I've had some decent winners. Okay, all right, 212 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: we'll take it anyway. Yeah. So you're saying it's important 213 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: to believe in your kids. Oh, absolutely. I stressed that 214 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: all the time with my students. I always give them 215 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: positive reinforcements and I always help them wherever they need 216 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: to help. And I always tell them you keep doing 217 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: what you need to do and eventually good things will 218 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: happen for you. All true. Sal. Good luck to you 219 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: even against the Regians. Thanks for calling him man. I 220 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yeah. I look, I think it always irks 221 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: me a little bit when I see that this single. 222 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: You know, the most widespread fear that people have is 223 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: of public speaking. This is what they always say. I mean, 224 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: how do you really eve engage right now, the most 225 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: widespread fear is obviously you know omicron and COVID, but 226 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: in general, the most widespread fear that people have in 227 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: this country, the most common fear is public speaking. And 228 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that that's I think that 229 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: that's a huge indictment of our school system in general. 230 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: I think that people should all you've got to stand 231 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: up and communicate with your classmates, with your teachers, and 232 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: this needs to be regular. People need to become comfortable 233 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: with communication with their you know, their fellow people. I mean, 234 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: this is just this is something that I think we 235 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: had a speech class. By the way, I was told 236 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: a fascinating story here, and I want to all of 237 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: you to understand something. We have the We have the 238 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Rush team with us here on the Clay and Buck Show. 239 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: So it's like we have the the Jedi Masters of 240 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: EIB for the last twenty years here with us producers Greg, Ali, Mike. 241 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: They stayed with us for this new chapter and it 242 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: just makes everything we do here better. It means we 243 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: have an institutional knowledge about Rush and the EIB and 244 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: what he stood for that is always present for us. 245 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Whenever I ask a question, Nick says, they can say, 246 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: Ali and Mike, they say, oh, seven years ago, I 247 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: remember when Rush was talking about that. I mean, it's 248 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: incredible the recall they have and what they bring to 249 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: the show every day. Clay and I have the best 250 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: team in radio. We really believe that. And it's Russia's 251 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: team that's decided to stay with us for this next 252 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: iteration of the show. And I would also I was 253 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: just told by producer Ali here in New York that 254 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Rush he failed speech failed speech class in college twice. 255 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Think of this, The greatest radio broadcaster of his generation, 256 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: of all time failed speech twice in college. So you know, 257 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: if your kids having a little bit of a tough 258 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: time your college age, you know, son or daughter is 259 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: having a tough time with public speaking, just let them 260 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: know that, you know, the greatest of all time was 261 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: told by his college professor for speech class that he failed. 262 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: And it didn't even get like a C. He failed, 263 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: And it was because he didn't want to structure it out. 264 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: That's not how he worked. Ali told me it was because, 265 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: and Rush spoke about this on the air, it was 266 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: because he wanted to just do it right. He just 267 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: wanted to didn't want to outline it right. He just 268 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: wanted to do it like he wasn't gonna do an 269 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: old whole outline beforehand because he had a gift and 270 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: he just wanted the gift to do its thing. I mean, 271 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: this is what you see ends up happening. So it's 272 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: like I said, it's like that speech coach who called 273 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: in for all the parrots out there, especially given what 274 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: we've gone through in schools for the last eighteen months 275 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: and all the remote learning and being away from other 276 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: kids and the masking. Stay with your kids, believing your kids. 277 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: They will surprise you with what they're able to do, 278 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: even if they're struggling right now. And I know, I 279 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: feel like I'm proof of it. Rush was proof of it. 280 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: There's so many of us who overcame stuff you're listening 281 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: to Clay, Travis, send Buck Sexton fund the EIB Network. 282 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: This is the best of Christmas show Looking back with 283 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: Rush and looking forward with Clay and Buck. Welcome back 284 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: in play Travis Buck Sexton show. We got a guest 285 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: already on the line with us. He has Super Bowl 286 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: winning coach Dick vermil who has got a story coming 287 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: out a movie, great fantastic movie that I've already watched 288 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: American Underdog, about Kurt Warner and the Saint Louis Rams 289 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: team that won the Super Bowl. Coach for me, I'm 290 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: excited to talk with you. When I watched this movie, 291 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: and full disclosure, I'm a Titans fan, so I liked 292 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: everything but the ending. But when I watched this movie, 293 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't help thinking this is a perfect example of 294 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: how truth is truly stranger than fiction, because if you 295 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: tried to sketch out this movie, there's no way anyone 296 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: would believe it was remotely possible that a guy who's 297 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: stocking shelves in an Iowa grocery store would end up 298 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: the MVP of the league, the rookie of the Year, 299 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: and would win a Super Bowl. When you look back 300 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: on it now, I know when you're in the middle 301 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: of it it it can feel crazy and wild. But 302 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: does it seem like a remarkably improbable story to you 303 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: watching even yourself? As you said, you've seen it three 304 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: times when you watched the story of what happened in 305 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: that season. Yeah, you know, I still shake myself when 306 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: I walk out. Like you said, I've seen it three times. 307 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Each time I see it, I like it better. Because 308 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: it makes me think more about the whole process. You know, 309 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: they didn't include his very first year with us as 310 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: the third quarterback coming out of the renal League because 311 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: a movie would have been too long, and they did 312 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: a great giant of condensing it. But each time I've 313 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: looked at it, I go back and you know, first off, 314 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: it had never happened before, and secondly, it will probably 315 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: never happen again, and he made it happen. But it's 316 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: more than a story about a quarterback. It's a life story. Yeah, 317 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: struggle both you know, both husband and wife, and and 318 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: the whole process. And so I think it will stimulate 319 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: people emotionally because they'll be able to relate to some 320 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: period in their life they went through something they'd be 321 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: not as grastic, but pretty close to it, and they 322 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: battled through it and made it, or they didn't make 323 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: it and had to take a different avenue. So I 324 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: think there's something for everybody. It's far more than a 325 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: football story. For people out there who don't know this story, 326 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: let me give him a quick synopsis. You are the 327 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: head coach of the Saint Louis and Rams in the NFL. Right, 328 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: you have got second year there You've got Trent Green 329 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: as you're starting quarterback. The expectation is that Trent Green, 330 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: you got a lot of time talented people that are 331 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber or Hall of Fame guys like 332 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce, like Marshall Falk on your team. Trent Green 333 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: has a devastating knee injury in the preseason, and suddenly 334 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: incomes Kurt Warner, who had been playing in the Arena 335 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Football League, who had gone to a small school in Iowa, 336 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: and who was in his upper twenties, and it had 337 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: appeared maybe football had passed him by. So that's the background. 338 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: So I want to ask you this about Kurt Warner. 339 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: How did you come to end up with Kurt Warner 340 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: on your team? Who convinced you to take him and 341 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: did you believe that he could be a starting quarterback 342 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: in the league. Well, first off, he was recommended to 343 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: me by a coach that I knew from California. He 344 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: had been the coach at San Diego. Stated anyway, I 345 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: knew him, and he had been recommended to me Charlie Armory, 346 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: our personnel director, and John Becker, a college scout director, 347 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: and we brought him in for workout. Now, This was 348 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: the year before the Super Bowl team, because he was 349 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: actually there a full year coming out of the Arena 350 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: League as our third quarterback, and we once we signed him, 351 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: we worked him out, liked him, and it wasn't a 352 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: dazzling workout, but we needed depths, so we signed him 353 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: and sent him to Europe to play in the NFL 354 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: europe League, and he played ten games that were they 355 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: already played well. Then he came back and he became 356 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: our third quarterback for sixteen games. He didn't play in 357 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: a game until the last game of the season when 358 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: we were getting beat we put him into the fourth quarter. 359 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: I think he threw the ball teams ten fifteen times 360 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: and completed fourth That was it. Then we make him 361 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: our second quarterback coming into my third year at the Rams, 362 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: his second year and we have signed Trent Green as 363 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: a free agent to be our starting quarterback and built 364 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: what we thought was going to be a real good 365 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: football team, probably a playoff team around him. Well, he 366 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: gets hurt in the preseason game and Lowland behold we 367 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: go with Kurt Warner. We all thought Kurt could play 368 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: from having watched him as our third quarterback throw the 369 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: ball against our defensive team in preparation for our next opponent, 370 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: you know, and he threw the ball well, but you 371 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: always say when you walk off the field, well he's 372 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's not game day. There's not eighty thousand 373 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: people sans he probably couldn't play this well in a 374 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: regular game. Wrong, we were wrong. So all of a sudden, 375 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: he's our starter going into the first game of the 376 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: season against the Ravens, and from then on he wrote 377 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: his own story. He wrote his own story. No quarterback 378 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: in the history of the league started out like he did. 379 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: He threw three touchdowns in the first big game, three 380 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: touchdown passes in the second game, three touchdown passes in 381 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: the third game, five touchdown passes in the fourth game, 382 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: one touchdown pass in the sixth game, three more in 383 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: the next game. No one has ever done that. Eighteen touchdowns, 384 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: three pass three pass interceptions in the first sixth game 385 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: had ever done as the first time starting a football 386 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: So back that time, you know, we said, you know something, 387 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: this guy special, He's got it. And he went on 388 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: and played us so well. He carried us into the 389 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: super Bowl and then won it. He was the MVP, 390 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: and a Super Bowl never happened before, it'll probably never 391 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: happen again. What makes deciding whether a guy can be 392 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: a good quarterback so hard? Well, you know, it's it's 393 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: sometimes it's observation. With me, I always go on what 394 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: I see, not so much what I think other people 395 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: think or sometimes what other people see. I've just been 396 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: lucky and I've gone on what I see and my 397 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: hunches and my gut feelings about watching people when they 398 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: compete and they compare. So I would say he just 399 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: First off, I'm not bright enough to say I could 400 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: predict he was going to do what he did. But 401 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: I thought he would play, and I thought he would 402 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: play well. This movie is coming out for Christmas. There've 403 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: been early previews that are already out. American Your Dog, 404 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: You've watched it three times. I've watched it as well. 405 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: It's a tremendous family movie. Kurt and his wife Brenda 406 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: have a tremendous relationship between the two of them. Four 407 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: people out there. I know you've got kids and grandkids yourself. 408 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: What do you think families can take from the story 409 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: of Kurt and Brenda Warner and the rise to a 410 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship. There's football in this story. But it's 411 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: about a lot more than football. Oh yeah, you know. 412 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: It's a story of persistence, story of deep belief and 413 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: faith in yourself, a story and commitment to me, a 414 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: life's dream, and you know, a tremendously deep belief in 415 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: what you thought you could do. And he would not 416 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: allow Kurt would not allow anybody to write him off. 417 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: They tried to write him off in college. He didn't 418 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: start until part of the season is fifth year, I 419 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: think it was, or a senior year. He had noah 420 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: in Iowa, Okay, Northern Iowa, and and of course he 421 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: had to go. He goes to Green Bay. He gets 422 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: a blink there. He didn't get drafted, and they cut 423 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: him right off the bat because he knew he wasn't ready. 424 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: But they saw he wasn't ready. He was very conscientious 425 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: and he didn't want to do things. He didn't do 426 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: well anyway, he didn't impress him. They let him go. 427 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: He ends up in the Arena League and he takes 428 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: them all away to the championship game in the Arena League, 429 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: the Iowa Barnstormers, and all this is included in the 430 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: build up to end up with Saint Louis Rams. But 431 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: the fans, non football fans and football fans are going 432 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: to enjoy it because, like I said earlier, it's more 433 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: a life story, you know, and people are going to 434 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: be able to identify with it. Talking to coach Dick Vermeil, 435 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: who won a Super Bowl with Kurt Warner an amazing 436 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: story a little over twenty years ago, Coach, I heard 437 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: a great story about you and how committed you were 438 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: to the time that it takes to be an excellent coach. 439 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: I want to find out if it's true that you 440 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: and your wife were flying one time and you were 441 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: watching on the screen there and inside of the plane 442 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: a television show and you were watching it. You were 443 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: really laughing, and you eventually turned to your wife and 444 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: you were like, man, this show is really good, and 445 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: your wife said, yeah, coach, it's It's Seinfeld. It's one 446 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: of the most famous shows ever and you had never 447 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: heard or seen the television show Seinfeld. Is that a 448 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: true story? That's true? So you are committed so much? 449 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean, because I think a lot of people out 450 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: there who don't spend a lot of time around coaches, 451 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: the amount of hours and the amount of effort and 452 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: and focus that it requires to be really good with 453 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: your team, you almost have to have blinders on as 454 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: in terms of the larger cultural landscape. Well, you almost 455 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: hit it right on the nail. I said, I was 456 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: blindly committed to being the best football coach I could 457 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: be blindly committed. And what my problem them was I 458 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: allowed the passion to become an obsession, and then I 459 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: had to leave the game. I didn't anticipate leaving the 460 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: fourteen years, but I was so fortunate that John Shaw 461 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: in Georgia Frontier and Jay Segment the RAMS organization wanted 462 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: me to coach your football team. So I went back 463 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: after fourteen seasons. Best decision, second best decision and probably 464 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: ever made my life. So coach what burned you out 465 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: the first time? Because I think it's such a fascinating question. 466 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: What burned you out the first time? And had you 467 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: learned by the second time that allowed you to achieve 468 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: a different level almost of success, Like what occurred that 469 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: made you a better coach the second time that you 470 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: didn't know the first time the first time. I allowed 471 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: losing to affect me so much. I spent too much 472 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: time after the loss evaluated why I lost, which ineferdable 473 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: for preparation to prepare my team to play for the 474 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: next win. And in my own personal evaluation, I could 475 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: see I wasn't doing a good job after I lost 476 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: the next one or maybe squeaked out a win, and 477 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: it just kept snow balling on me. I just couldn't 478 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: you handle all that kind of stuff after seven years 479 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: of the head coach of the Eagles, and people have 480 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: told me I was pushing myself too hard, but I 481 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't listen when I came back. Obviously, after fourteen years out, 482 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't be my own offensive quarter I couldn't be 483 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: my quarterback coach and call all the place game day 484 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: I was the head coach. But what I had learned 485 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: to is decide one of the most important things for 486 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: a leader in an organization to do, and then surround 487 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: yourself with people could do these other things that you 488 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: don't do because you're you're the leader of the organization, 489 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: and and then back and provide them within the football 490 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: You provide them with an organization that supports them properly, 491 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: that gives them the right kind of personnel, that gives 492 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: a player a sense of discipline and a sense of process, 493 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: and an excitement about being in the environment he's playing 494 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: in and you go from there. Let's see, I tried 495 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: to do all that in one show, all the way 496 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: through you know, high school, junior, college, college, and then 497 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: on into the pro football. And I ran out of 498 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: gas doing that in pro football. And when I went back, 499 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: I was a better overall leader of the total process 500 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: and building the culture from the ownership right on through 501 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: the organization to the fourth string player on your football team. 502 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: He's Dick vermil The movie is American Underdog. It is fantastic. Coach, 503 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: have a great Christmas. We appreciate you taking some time 504 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: with us this morning. Yeah, well, I sure hope the 505 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: fans take the time to go see it. But it's 506 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: going to be the best Christian president. They buy themselves 507 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: outstanding stuff. Thanks Coach. Time slot on loan from Rush 508 00:29:51,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: Lay Trams and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network Walking 509 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Can't recommend highly 510 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: enough if you're looking for a good family movie, that 511 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: American Underdog movie is fantastic. I took my seven year old, 512 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: my eleven year old, my thirteen year old. My wife 513 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: also went. Spider Man, by the way, is out. My 514 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: kids have been to see Spider Man too, and people 515 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: going back to the movies is an important part of 516 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: normalcy returning. And I don't know how many of you 517 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: paid attention to what the box office was, but Spider 518 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: Man did over two hundred and fifty million dollars in 519 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: its opening weekend, which is the biggest amount of opening 520 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: weekend gross that a movie has done since Avenger's End Game, 521 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: second biggest ever for that Spider Man movie. Why is 522 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: that significant? Even with Omicron going on, millions of people 523 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: were willing to go watch the new Spider Man movie 524 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: in theaters, include being in New York City and LA. 525 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: That is an important message that is being sent by 526 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: the general public. Same general public has been filling up 527 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: football stadiums, same general public that's been going to concerts. 528 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: We're not going to allow the fears of a few, 529 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: the anxiety written absurdities that many people are going through. 530 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: In order to try and basically show how much more 531 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: they care about COVID than you do. They're gonna triple mask, 532 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna wear the shields, They're gonna basically be wearing 533 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: hazmat suits out there in the larger universe. People are 534 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: over it reasonable. Rational people are going to live their lives. 535 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: You can't stay curled up in the fetal position forever, 536 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: and at some point you have to stand up and 537 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: say your fears don't cancel my freedoms. And I think 538 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 1: that's what happened frankly with the Spider Man movie, with 539 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: football games that are going on. And I hope, by 540 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: the way, that the Supreme Court is going to be 541 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: willing to stand up to the Biden vaccine mandates. Brett 542 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh has that on his desk right now and say 543 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: this is an unconstitutional overreach. OSHA doesn't have the ability 544 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: to mandate this. And if that occurs from the Supreme Court, 545 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: particularly in conjunction with the Senate, remember voted against Biden's 546 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: vaccine mandate as well, it will send an important message 547 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: about getting back to normalcy that I believe many people 548 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: out there are already embracing in their day today life. 549 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: I also want to take a moment just because this 550 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: is the last time in twenty twenty one and Clay, 551 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: I'll be talking to you together. Obviously we're already fired up. 552 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: Next year is going to be huge. It's going to 553 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: be an amazing year of just so many things that 554 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: we know are going to happen, not just in the 555 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: news and politics, and who knows where all this stuff 556 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: is going. Right now, we just want to say thank 557 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: you to all of you who have been with us 558 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: for about six solid months at this point, tuning into 559 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: the Clay and Bucks show. You all you are Russia's 560 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: extended family, and you have embraced us as one of yours. 561 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: And we so greatly appreciate the affiliates that have put 562 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: their faith behind us and lent Rush's audience to us 563 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: for this period of time to prove ourselves and to 564 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: carry on those fights. I mean, Clay, it's awesome, especially 565 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: when I get down into some of the redder parts 566 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: of the country. The Clay and Buck Show. We've got 567 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: great people all over the place, no doubt, And you 568 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: and I had never done a show together before, so 569 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: Julie Talbot brought us together. She knew how important Rush 570 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: was and what his legacy was and how much his 571 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: audience needed people who would continue to fight for him. 572 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: We know what a tremendous privilege it is to be 573 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: able to do this job every day, and we have 574 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: had a tremendous amount of fun in the first six 575 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: months and twenty twenty two is going to be one 576 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: of the most important elections of any of our lives. 577 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: And I know that's a cliche, but it's really true, 578 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: especially for a mid term and we are going to 579 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: help make sure that sanity wins and we kick some ass. 580 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: And I can't wait to get role. I think we 581 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: can get big wins for freedom next year that you 582 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: will feel, folks, that will matter to you, that will 583 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: be meaningful. The fights we're talking about here, it's not 584 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: just theoretical, it's not just philosophical. This is about your 585 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: day to day and about the country we're going to 586 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: be living in going forward. And Clai and I promise 587 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: you this unsingable aircraft carrier Freedom right here on the 588 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck Show, on the front lines with all 589 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: of you bringing you everything you need to know day 590 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: in and day out. And Clai and I just want 591 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: to say thanks again to all of you, Merry Christmas 592 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: to all, thanks for listening. You're listening to Clay Travis 593 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: send Buck Sexton on the EIB Network