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Speaker 1: Am I the ale for telling my best friend why

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Speaker 1: I wasn't attending his wedding.

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Speaker 2: Because you're no longer my best friend anymore? Whoa fake friend?

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Speaker 2: Because you're sick?

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Speaker 1: So might have fed up? Ninety seven says I might

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Speaker 1: have effed up?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: Me thirty two male and my best friend Alex thirty

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Speaker 1: After college, we both moved back home so we could

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Speaker 1: started dating Stella thirty five female, a lovely girl, around

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Speaker 1: four and a half years ago, and from the get

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Speaker 1: go she seemed to politely dislike me. I don't know why. Oh, well,

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Speaker 1: say lovey.

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Speaker 2: What's a polite dislike?

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Speaker 1: You just don't try to hang out with them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like okay, well that's okay. I'm busy. I'm busy

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Speaker 2: that day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't doo it. I didn't say the date, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no better, I' I'm busy. Alex and Stella moved across

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Speaker 1: the country in twenty twenty one. After Stella earned a

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Speaker 1: promotion at work. In twenty twenty two, Alex proposed. She

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Speaker 1: said yes, and they set a wedding date for the

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Speaker 1: end of September twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 1: I got to save the day card at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the year, and based on the conversations I had

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Speaker 1: either as a grooms man or as the best man.

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Speaker 2: Oh so Opie thought they were going to be the

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Speaker 2: best man. So they were like best friends best friends friends,

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Speaker 2: and I assumed that was in like early life, or

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Speaker 2: maybe they just were diapers for a really long time.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we don't know, but never received an official confirmation

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Speaker 1: from either of them. A couple months before the wedding,

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Speaker 1: I saw that wedding invitations had gone out on social

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Speaker 1: media and figured mine was en route. It never came.

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Speaker 1: I waited a couple of weeks, figured it might have

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Speaker 1: with him. I called Alex and had a brief conversation

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Speaker 1: with him where he was clearly agitated and said he

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Speaker 1: the near future to direct any wedding related questions to Stella,

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Speaker 1: and he called me when things cooled off. I called

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Speaker 1: I couldn't say, Oh, don't worry, you're invited.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's not that's so whacked, that kind

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Speaker 3: of weird of him best friend, Like, I get that

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Speaker 3: you're busy and probably stressed, but all you ought to

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Speaker 3: say was oh, yeah, no, you're invited, don't worry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But it sounds like that's not the case. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And he doesn't want to have to deal with having

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Speaker 2: to tell his best friend yeah, which is sweet. Yes, friend,

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Speaker 2: quote unquote best friend.

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Speaker 1: I called, texted, and emailed Stella several times over the

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Speaker 1: course of a week, but she didn't respond to any

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Speaker 1: of them. At this point, I figured I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: for some reason between the two of us. Yesterday, a

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Speaker 1: little over three weeks after our last conversation, Alex DMed

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Speaker 1: asking if I was free to chat. I jumped at

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Speaker 1: Alex jumped right into ashpiel, saying that he knew I

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Speaker 1: was super busy with work and dealing with a lot

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Speaker 1: of personal stuff, but he'd love if I could attend

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Speaker 1: his wedding, even just as a guest and wanted to

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Speaker 1: know if there was anything he could do to help

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Speaker 1: make that happen. Wait, so now he's acting as if,

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Speaker 1: oh he wasn't like coming by twice. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 1: What has.

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Speaker 4: Information?

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Speaker 2: I think there's some line going.

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Speaker 1: I think some some sneak eerie.

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Speaker 2: What's Alex's girlfriend name against Stella? I think Stella's planting

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Speaker 2: a devious little earwork Stella in his brain.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I just blurted out that I'd love to,

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Speaker 1: I mean it didn't easy. Yeah, he said that. I

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Speaker 1: That was the reason I called him a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: that i'd contacted Stelle about it, but she never got

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Speaker 1: back to me and left me on red and that

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what he was talking about. Me

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Speaker 1: dealing with too much to be involved in the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's the information. That's the information, the stinky information.

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Speaker 1: We're smelling it, smelling it and it's not smelling good.

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Speaker 2: Not smelling good.

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Speaker 1: After a very pregnant pause, he said he needed to

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Speaker 2: What's with this friend giving no information? Going to like

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Speaker 2: sort things out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then nothing for s Why don't you just

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Speaker 3: say you're invited?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why don't we just start with that?

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Speaker 2: Why don't you just give a little bit of information, like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I think I didn't understand something. I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: talk to my wife. Yeah, why be so opaque about

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Speaker 2: what you come on?

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Speaker 1: Thanks, let's get back to it. My phone's been blowing

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Speaker 1: the up up since with wedding attendees ask me what

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Speaker 1: the f happened and why the wedding might be off now,

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Speaker 1: and it's Opie's fault. He's like, I just I just

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Speaker 1: did know. I don't know. My girlfriend has reaffirmed to

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Speaker 1: me that I did nothing wrong. But I've had people

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Speaker 1: didn't belong and caused a stink, which is really effing

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Speaker 1: with my head? Am I the a hole? I mean?

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Speaker 1: Why don't think so at all? OPI? This is what

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Speaker 1: Opie did. Opie did not receive an invitation, called called

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Speaker 1: their friend up said hey, uh, can I talk to

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Speaker 1: and then they called their the fiance that hey, I

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Speaker 1: you coming my wedding? And Opie was literally all Opie

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Speaker 1: said was I wasn't invited.

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Speaker 2: Op he has no idea. That's it.

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Speaker 1: How is this Opie's fault? It's not Edit After he

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Speaker 1: DM me, we switched to video chat, meant to include

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Speaker 1: that whoops and edit to I may not be able

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Speaker 1: to respond to everyone's response, but I have read them

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Speaker 1: all and appreciate each and every one of them. My

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Speaker 1: girlfriend is also having way too much fun with this

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Speaker 1: and is kindly giving me crap for doubting myself. Maybe

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Speaker 1: way too much fun And there are two relevant comments

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Speaker 1: just a little bit of improva.

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Speaker 2: No Opie is blind.

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Speaker 1: OPI is a blind man. What do you all take

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Speaker 1: a thing?

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Speaker 2: I think Stella Stella fed some lie to Alex about

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Speaker 2: what Like, Basically, Stella fed some lie to Alex, saying

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Speaker 2: a reason that he couldn't make it. Yeah, and now

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Speaker 2: Alex found out the dirty, stinky lie.

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Speaker 1: Dirty stinky lie.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what is your take of why she would do

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Speaker 3: that because she didn't like it, But like, all we

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Speaker 3: got was a polite dislike. Well, maybe it's in polite,

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Speaker 3: maybe jealous, Maybe it's a rude dislike.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he comes from the other side of the tracks

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Speaker 2: and she's an elitist. Whoa, and she is like I

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Speaker 2: actually come from a place with them, from low social mobility,

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Speaker 2: and hey, you just stay exactly where you are. You're

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Speaker 2: not going to get to my side.

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Speaker 1: Of the tracks.

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Speaker 2: I'm tracking you and I am unattracted.

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Speaker 1: But there are some relevant comments. So one person says,

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Speaker 1: why didn't you ask any of your other friends if

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Speaker 1: they knew what was going on? Yeah, why did you

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Speaker 1: get any information? That's what I'm saying, Opie said. I

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Speaker 1: I've had some bad experiences in the past where interpersonal

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Speaker 1: drama was happening. I reached out to people looking for answers,

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Speaker 1: and it made it ten times worse. I tend to

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Speaker 1: there must be missing info here. OPI responds, I don't disagree.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing a lot of pieces of

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Speaker 1: the puzzle. But Alex delegating to Stella is pretty normal.

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Speaker 1: He gets overwhelmed easily in high pressure situations and tends

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Speaker 1: to defer, and she's much more in alpha personality. That's

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Speaker 1: getting called off as far as I know, because she

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Speaker 1: what the story was? The wedding's massive. This isn't some

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Speaker 1: personal affair with twenty five people and there is an update.

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Speaker 1: What do you have to say do anything wrong?

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Speaker 2: He doesn't even know the story.

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Speaker 1: Opie doesn't know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Nond and bumping into every plant that he there's a

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Speaker 1: In and someone stole a plant and they blamed op

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like, I had no idea the plant

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Speaker 1: Or little dogs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they're there. They're furry plants. Moss, there's

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Speaker 4: Ah, I thought you were like the animal.

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Speaker 1: But there is an update.

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Speaker 2: I would love to hear it.

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Speaker 1: I need to know where this is going and whether

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Speaker 1: OP is absolved.

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Speaker 3: I just need to know any contest I need, I

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Speaker 3: need something, give me something.

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Speaker 1: Update. The next day, Alex and I texted Tuesday night

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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning and he said he was handling stuff and

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Speaker 1: him and Stella, which I agreed to. The wedding it's

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Speaker 1: still happening. I will be the best man, and I've

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Speaker 1: been read in on all the stuff I need to do.

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Speaker 1: The person who was filling in for me, Matthew thirty

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Speaker 1: four mail, one of mine and alex good friends, who's

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Speaker 1: also neurodivergent, is thrilled not to have spent the day

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Speaker 1: result of this, clester f Alex Stella Slash, whoever parents

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Speaker 1: girlfriend's plane tickets and hotels day and my best man tucks. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Because there was so so much mess, they were like,

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory. Op knew exactly what was going on and

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Speaker 2: wanted all of his while Yeah plan the long game loame.

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Speaker 2: What was the main driver of this mess in the

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Speaker 2: first place. Stella's pregnant yay dot They found out a

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Speaker 2: they were passively trying then actively trying in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: but stopped and swapped back to heavy BC once the

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Speaker 1: Lol, you didn't know by it. You didn't have best

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Speaker 2: Why was the wedding almost off? I don't understand that.

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Speaker 2: I feel the update we're going to get some final clarity.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping Stella is going to be revealed.

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Speaker 1: Yes, let's get into these relevant talents and see how

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Speaker 1: Stella at all. Opie says, neither do I. It should

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Speaker 1: and then checking with Alex, Opie responds, after she left,

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Speaker 1: I asked him if he was sure he wanted to

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Speaker 1: He says, yes, So he seems committed. I've generally found

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Speaker 1: Better to just be there, be supportive, and be ready

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Speaker 2: So Opie is like, I am sensing that something's going.

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Speaker 1: To go awry, Yeah, but is leaving it up to

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Speaker 1: their friends, saying, are you sure you want to go

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Speaker 1: through with this? I will support you either way.

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Speaker 2: Like go through with the marriage?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, But as far as we know, like, it seems

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Speaker 2: like stelle story has checked it.

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Speaker 1: It seems like her story's chicken out. Seems like all

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Speaker 1: the ducks are lining up.

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Speaker 2: But those ducks, if you look on the microscope, unaligned,

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Speaker 1: Opie's theory on what really happened. He says, she intended

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Speaker 1: to wait and see how long she could delay my

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Speaker 1: invite until Alex noticed the pregnancy situation gave her a

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Speaker 1: good crisis to take advantage of, and she did. She

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Speaker 2: But why do Stella hateop? That's what I wonder.

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Speaker 1: I don't know examples of why you think she doesn't

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Speaker 1: like you? Oh, that's what I read ahead. I don't

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Speaker 1: think she's ever given me a real smile. It's all

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Speaker 1: dead eyed, fake ones. Body language is usually defensive around me.

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Speaker 1: Lota crossed arms Hunt's shoulders. She makes a lot of

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Speaker 1: subtle snide remarks.

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Speaker 1: I got him one hundred dollars bottle of Japanese whiskey

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Speaker 1: a few years ago. She mentioned how it would look

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Speaker 1: great on the bottom shelf. Oh damn.

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Speaker 2: She is from the tracks. From the track.

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Speaker 1: She's from the tracks. She's on the other side of

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Speaker 2: She's a Classics.

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Speaker 1: He's a classic classic classes.

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Speaker 2: She's a classic classes. I think she Oh, here we go.

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Speaker 2: She comes from money. She's an alpha Oh, pi's poor

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Speaker 2: teen wolf.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know us an alpha dude.

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Speaker 2: I haven't thought about that show at ages. That was

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Speaker 2: my favorite.

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Speaker 1: Do we watch it every night?

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch it with you, But I did watch it.

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Speaker 3: That was one of my favorite shows really ever. I

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Speaker 3: love teen Wolve. I remember I would watch it on

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Speaker 3: a sketchy movie website and like, that's so funny getting

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Speaker 3: a school or something or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I only watched until Alison spoiler alert died.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember which one.

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Speaker 1: Alison was the Alison Argent was the first for spoiling

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Speaker 1: its spoiler alert. Yeah, but it's I couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: I can't pause a video. I'm here in real life.

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Speaker 2: You can't say spoiler alert and then immediately blasts through.

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Speaker 2: It's like saying watch out and then kicking someone of

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Speaker 2: the nuts.

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Speaker 1: Another person says, why you weren't best man in the

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Speaker 1: first place, and OP says, Alex treated me like the

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Speaker 1: best man in the first place. His OCD kept him

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Speaker 1: from making it official because he couldn't find the right time.

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Speaker 1: According to him, find it.

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Speaker 2: Find it, find the time.

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Speaker 1: Find the time. But there is an update eight months later.

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Speaker 1: Should be after the wedding, Should be after the wedding. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's been a while, sorry y'all for taking so long

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Speaker 1: to get this update out. Been absolutely swamped at work

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Speaker 1: putting out fires with my hair on fire for the

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Speaker 1: last six ish months. So here's the cliff notes version

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Speaker 1: of the wedding. Wedding was a fun mess, tons of

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Speaker 1: unrelated drama. Stella sure knows how to design a beautiful

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Speaker 1: credit for that. Didn't get to enjoy much of it

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Speaker 1: since I was working the wedding with a few other

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Speaker 1: lovi ceremony took efing forever, though felt terrible for all

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Speaker 1: the bridesmaids who had to wear heels through that stuff. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: there was no gotcha moment or come to Jesus moment

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Speaker 1: where I got the full story as to why crap

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Speaker 1: hit the mother effing fan. No, but based on what

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Speaker 1: I observed while working the wedding, I think I've been

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Speaker 2: Oh, so there wasn't a gotcha moment, but there was information.

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Speaker 2: There was information, so we will get clarity hopey.

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Speaker 1: Also, but Opie's consistently been unclarified. So maybe this is like.

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Speaker 2: I know, you know, give me my ball, shut up,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my bill.

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Speaker 1: You don't know that I think this had more to

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Speaker 1: although she still doesn't like me. My main reasoning Ken

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Speaker 1: and Karen were paying for the majority of the wedding

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Speaker 1: more than Stella Alex and alex parents. Alex and Stella

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Speaker 1: really care all that much. It just figured she changed

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Speaker 1: her mind. You just somehow missed that most of these

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Speaker 2: You know, I would love to have a small wedding,

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Speaker 1: Papa, you know how Papa he is.

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Speaker 5: Papa is is. I just can't convince him otherwise. Small

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Speaker 5: do you have a massive yacht? You can't have fifty people.

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Speaker 1: You have to fill up the yacht. What are people think?

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Speaker 1: I look at you could just do that, but Pa

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Speaker 2: I feel like we totally got it from the beginning

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Speaker 2: that they were rich.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Her parents were very standoffish towards me to be

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Speaker 1: expected feelings mutual, and made a lot of frankly weird

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Speaker 1: Sounds like he is a cokid. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'm reading too much into it. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: It's not PEPSI.

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Speaker 1: You missed it too late. Her parents made a lot

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Speaker 1: of frankly weird comments about Della's younger brother, Chase, oftentimes

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Speaker 1: in comparison between us that flattered him, and kept insisting

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Speaker 1: he was perfect best man material. This is a coup,

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Speaker 1: This is the best man coup.

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Speaker 2: So the parents were like, we want Della's brother to take.

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Speaker 1: The crowd, take the crap. You've stepped the room.

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Speaker 2: Why are they friends?

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Speaker 1: Stella and her brother?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, the brother and the group room.

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Speaker 1: Alex has barely met Stella's parents maybe a dozen times

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Speaker 1: away for? Presumably like a sandwich, you.

441
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Speaker 2: Know, but if it's a good sandwich.

442
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: No, Basically, I hadn't seen this stuff with my own

443
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: two eyes, I wouldn't have believed it. It was that bizarre.

444
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: You go, I'll go pick it up after this. We

445
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 2: could door dash it. They don't. They only do door dash.

446
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 2: Oh perfect.

447
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: Lots of other innocuous stuff that individually means nothing, but

448
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 1: when combined together, provides a decent amount of circumstantial evidence.

449
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: You are guilty. So here's what I think happened roughly,

450
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to the finale. What I think

451
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: happened like five times yes to get yeah. Ken and

452
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: Karen wanted Chase to be the best man in the wedding.

453
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: Alex really wanted me to be the best man. Rather

454
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: than make a choice, Stella appeased both parties, telling them

455
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: what they wanted to hear while making no actual decision.

456
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: The longer it went on, the more complex the line got.

457
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: When Alex had his breakdown, Stella saw a way to

458
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: get out from under her Gordian knot of lies by

459
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: taking advantage of the crisis. Unfortunately for her, Alex came

460
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: to his sensus for the wedding, started asking questions, and

461
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: when push finally came to shove, she chose the relationship

462
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: over whatever the f is going on with the family,

463
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: much to their apparent sugarn And there is some post

464
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: wedding information to finish the story off.

465
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Speaker 2: Okay, honestly, that kind of wrapped up it kind of

466
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: it wraps up like a like a mess. The bow

467
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 2: that I have though, is like it's not my.

468
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: Favorite, Yeah, it's it's it's kind of uneven.

469
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: It's like like, I guess, but I'm not. I don't.

470
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm not like I want to rip open that present, right,

471
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: I just kind of want to say, yeah, all right,

472
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: fine whatever, whatever, Let's.

473
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Speaker 1: Get into this post wedding information. Elex and Stella had

474
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Speaker 1: a healthy baby girl named Iris.

475
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 4: Horrible name.

476
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 1: What it's a great name.

477
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 4: How would they name someone after a flower?

478
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: It's after the goddess Iris, the goddess of the rainbow.

479
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: I know that there are seven nouns to that name.

480
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: It's just crazy that someone there's seven.

481
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: Do you know that there's seven?

482
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 3: Now?

483
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 4: Yep, there's also Iris is a verb. What it means rainbowing.

484
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, leper con Iris the mountains just said the rainbow

485
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Speaker 3: Iris said seven.

486
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 1: Downs one verb. I know what I'm saying.

487
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: Anyways.

488
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: Iris is a weird name, and Iris rainbows. That's why

489
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 1: it's a verbal.

490
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: Riley's past relationship coming into the studio.

491
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Speaker 3: That uh, I know this kid has rich parents and

492
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 3: probably that kid grow up will be with someone that

493
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: isn't good enough for them.

494
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one day maybe that kid will prove those

495
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: parents wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah something.

496
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

497
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't I need TEALDR.

498
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: Riley's story time.

499
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: Me and Alex have been talking a lot more. For

500
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: whatever reason, he asked me for childcare tips, like, bra,

501
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm just as lost as you here and I'm sad.

502
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: Not like you should never ask what's going on specific.

503
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't know what the heck is going on, never

504
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 1: knows what's going on at any point, and have set

505
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: up a weekly gaming session where we're slowly slogging through

506
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: Balder's Gate three with Sam and Matthew. Who the hecker?

507
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: Sam and Matthew?

508
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: Wasn't there a Sam that came up earlier? No?

509
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what right here?

510
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: Who are Sam and Matthew?

511
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 4: I think that's the girlfriend?

512
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 1: Who's Matthew?

513
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 2: Wit?

514
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: Did I read that? Did I say me and Sam

515
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: are the godparents? That's nice? No, it says me and

516
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: Op and Sam are the godparents. Sam is his girlfriend?

517
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 4: A person who's filling in for me Matthew like that

518
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: was the good friend?

519
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: That's yeah.

520
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: As far as I know, Alex and Stella are in

521
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: couples counseling wow, which seems to be helping from my

522
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: vandage point. Stella was weirdly against it, but Alex pushed

523
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: for it so he could be a better husband to

524
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Speaker 1: her and she relented.

525
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 4: Oh Sam is Alex's stepsister.

526
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, not girlfriend. As far as I know,

527
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: Stella's already back at work and on most of her

528
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: pre baby schedule. Alex's stepsister Sam there we have it.

529
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: Has been checking in on them periodically, and according to her,

530
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: there's no major red flags at the moment. Stella actually

531
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: texts slash emails me stuff. Now It's mostly baby pictures,

532
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: but it's a step in the right direction and I

533
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I send cat pictures in response. Hopefully this

534
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: is the last update. My life got far too interesting

535
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: for that my and with my current workload, I doubt

536
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: I could mentally handle more drama. And that, folks, is

537
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: the end of the story.

538
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: Pooh, mama, doo wee mama, dude, there's that. There is

539
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 2: one page in Diary of a wimpy kid that made

540
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: me crack up, and it was I remember it. It

541
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: goes it's like class, can you like pay attention please?

542
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: And it's like your mama and You're like, you can't

543
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: be making your mama joked. Eddie is like your pathy

544
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,239
Speaker 2: is like you can't be making pappy jokes like your

545
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: slap happy grandpathy.

546
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: I died, You're still dying. Fun fact about that book,

547
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: little okay story Tom. I couldn't take it to church

548
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: because I pronounced it as diarrhea of a woman, because

549
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know what a diary was.

550
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: Whatever. No one ever tells you, no one ever told you. Well,

551
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: like I told me.

552
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: I was like, can I read my book Diarrhea of Church?

553
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: And he was like, no, it might remind people of

554
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 3: like bad memories, so no, and then he and then

555
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: he read it and he was like, oh, diary And

556
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yo.

557
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: Yo, can you pull the page of the slapa Grandpavy.

558
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: I haven't thought about that in years.

559
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: I haven't done nears es, Greg Athlee, will you please

560
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: do this problem your mama.

561
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: Excuse me, your big fanny granny, But I hardly think

562
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: that's your slap happy Grandpavy.

563
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: But it's quick, okay story time. Yeah, that was just

564
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: I was in a bad relationship and people change and

565
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 3: you learn. You learn a lot from bad relationships.

566
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: True, yeah, but you know what I want to be

567
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Speaker 2: in the action of this next story that comes from

568
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Speaker 2: our subart a r slash okop show. We submit submit

569
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Speaker 2: because actually someone is blown up. We had another one

570
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Speaker 2: what reached like a million views, So if you want

571
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Speaker 2: your story to be heard, but are so show So

572
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: this goes from we theme music and they say, my

573
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Speaker 2: female twenty two boyfriend male twenty five and I have

574
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: been together for over a year and a half. We

575
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: have a seven month old together. Wow. Before the baby

576
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: was born, he agreed to marriage, and then we decided

577
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: that it was better to get to know each other

578
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: more before doing that. He knows that marriage before we

579
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: have another child is important to me and agreed to it,

580
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: and we agreed we want another child before our baby

581
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: is four. In couple's therapy this past weekend, he revealed

582
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: that he isn't sure he will ever want to be married.

583
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: Boo.

584
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: He said, he's committed to me just the same, but

585
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: is not sure about marriage. This is news to me. Opey,

586
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: that's rough.

587
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's super messed up.

588
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: So I guess you. Before they were married, they got pregnant,

589
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: had the baby, the baby seven months old, and they're

590
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: thinking about another one and before that they're like, let's

591
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: get married.

592
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, he says, let's get married, which and then

593
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: the partner says, I don't know about that.

594
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: I understood, Like I feel like marriage is kind of

595
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: unimportant until you have kids. Yeah, I think it's more

596
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: important when that just around.

597
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: I'd like in terms of legal stuff, Yeah.

598
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like ties it things up more nicely.

599
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: He said he's committed to me just the same, but

600
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: it is not sure about marriage. This is news to me.

601
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: I said in the appointment that I understand that his

602
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: feelings come from seeing his parents poor marriage growing up

603
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: and that they fought daily. But I continue to say

604
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: that what he said hurt me because I feel like

605
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: I've been led on. He said he will talk to

606
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: his personal therapists about why he feels the way he

607
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: does about marriage, but it could take years to figure out. Well, well,

608
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: at least you guys both have therapy. That's a good

609
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: starting point. Yeah. It's been two days and he's upset

610
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: with me that I am upset and saying that I

611
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: am going to give him an ultimatum or force him

612
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: to marry me. I do not want to marry someone

613
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: who doesn't want to marry me. I don't think it's

614
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: fair that I have already spent eighteen months with him

615
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: being told that we will get married before we try

616
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: for another kid, and now he is saying he may

617
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: never want to get married. He thinks it would be

618
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: fine to just be boyfriend and girlfriend forever. Well, yes,

619
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: some relationships have that dynamic and work perfectly. That is

620
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: not the future I want for myself and my daughter.

621
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: My boyfriend is saying, I'm the a hole for not

622
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: being more understanding and willing to wait and see what happens.

623
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: That could take years. Fertility issues run in my family,

624
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: and I don't want to wait years and years for

625
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: him to decide if he wants marriage or not. So

626
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: am I the a hole for telling him? I feel

627
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: blindsided and let on clarification, I'm not looking for anyone

628
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: to tell me I shouldn't have had my daughter. Those

629
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: comments will be ignored.

630
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: You are not the a hole.

631
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: You're not the A hole. I think, like something that

632
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: we've talked about on the show A Lot is like, yeah,

633
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: when two people agree on something and it's like, hey,

634
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: we have a firm agreement of how we're going to

635
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: move forward, especially when you have a kid and stuff, like,

636
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: you're building your relationship on that agreement, and when the

637
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: agreement is taken away, then you have to like rebuild

638
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: the relationship from there and what your boyfriend is doing

639
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 2: is kind of taking away this expectation.

640
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: And also he's kind of putting you or he's trying

641
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: to put you into this purgatory of oh maybe, y'all,

642
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: like he's leading you on, even if he wasn't necessarily

643
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: leading you on previously, if you accepted this, he is

644
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: leading you on by saying, well, I might want to

645
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: get married, but also there's a chance that in a

646
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: couple of years I won't marry you.

647
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: I also think it's important to talk about in the

648
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: same way that he has talked about the reasons that

649
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to get married. Yeah, why do you

650
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: want to why you want to get married? And why

651
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: are those reasons important to you?

652
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

653
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: Because I don't think that you have to get married.

654
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't think every couple of a couple of hosts

655
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: get married. But if those reasons are important to you,

656
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: then they shouldn't be important to your partner.

657
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

658
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: And if you're it's not then and.

659
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: I think you, like, I think you can communicate to

660
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: him what those are. And what OP did say is

661
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Speaker 2: she wanted she wants commitment. Yeah, right, And I guess

662
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Speaker 2: if speaking for OP, and you know, you let us

663
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: know what you think, like OP wants commitment from their partner.

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Speaker 2: Marriage to OP is a signal of that commitment, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Whereas like you know, anyone could just have a kid,

666
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: right yeah and run out or whatever. So yeah, but

667
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Speaker 2: is that commitment? And OP is seeing this lack of

668
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Speaker 2: wanting to get married as a lack of wanting to commit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean we I guess we haven't really

670
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: heard why he doesn't want to get married other.

671
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Speaker 2: Than his parents, his parents, I don't know. I feel

672
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Speaker 2: like it might be.

673
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Speaker 1: A that doesn't feel like a super strong reason to No.

674
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Speaker 2: It feels like an unwillingness to commit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, which I think if they're not willing to

676
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Speaker 1: commit to you the way that you want them.

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Speaker 2: To, that's yeah. But is OP ready to walk away?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I think you're right having a conversation

679
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Speaker 1: and saying these are the reasons that I want to

680
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: get married. And if you're still after the marriage or

681
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: like the counseling, the couple's counseling, Yeah, and after you

682
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: present those things, then maybe reevaluating the relationship because it

683
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: seems like these things are important to you and I

684
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: don't think that's wrong.

685
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: And you have a kid together, So I think it

686
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: makes this level of communication even more important. So in conclusion,

687
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: I think, do I think your boyfriend is the A whole?

688
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit the A hole.

689
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Speaker 2: I think what's good is you're both like in therapy, yeah,

690
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: and seeking. It seems like you're both seeking to resolve

691
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Speaker 2: this yeah, which is good. I think it makes sense

692
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: that you feel led on because he explicitly said that he.

693
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: Was going to be down for marriage, and he's explicitly

694
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Speaker 3: saying I want to lead you on again, I want

695
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Speaker 3: to keep leading you on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think he is the A hole for

697
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Speaker 2: not sticking to his work.

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Speaker 1: I think so too, And for implying that he wants

699
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: to keep leading you on. I think that's I think

700
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Speaker 1: like even suggesting that of oh, I'm you know, I

701
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: might if you stay with me, I might marry you.

702
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: It's like giving I think, false hope if he's not

703
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Speaker 1: actually committing to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think it's like I think when

705
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: he knows that she wants that exactly and you've been

706
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: together for you know, over a year, eighteen months, like that,

707
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: I think you deserve, you deserve a commitment, especially if

708
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: one was kind of.

709
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Speaker 1: Also, there is a world where he could say I

710
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: want to marry you, but like in a year, yeah,

711
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: which is okay too, that would be fine. I feel

712
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: like if he had given you a like a deadline

713
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Speaker 1: or not a deadline, but I what's the word, I

714
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: kind of schedule we're saying, Yeah, of when he was

715
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Speaker 1: a timeline, there we go or just.

716
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: Even like a like a like and it doesn't have

717
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: to be a strict timeline, but like just the intention

718
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: needs to.

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Speaker 1: Just the intention right now? There is no intention?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well there was. You know what actually would

721
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: be a different story if there was never an intention.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If there was never an intention, that's.

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Speaker 1: Fine, there's a wishy washy intention.

725
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: But if there was an intention and that intention is

726
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: pulled back, especially if it was clearly communicated, yeah, I

727
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: think that is a little a holy so op. You're

728
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Speaker 2: part of the okay fam. Sorry you're having to deal

729
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: with all this, but just no, you are not the

730
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Speaker 2: a hole. I agree, But you're doing all the right

731
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Speaker 2: things to resolve this by doing individual therapy and couple's therapy. Yeah,

732
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