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Speaker 1: Bon voyage, Bo Bishop, we will see you. Did he

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Speaker 1: leave on time?

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Speaker 4: Because there was so I need to get some updates from.

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Speaker 1: I had a dentist appointment at seven fifty happened to

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Speaker 1: I thought his flight was at seven, so he would

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Speaker 1: be a few minutes late. But let's see, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: find out right now. We're gonna eat g Man says.

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Speaker 1: Sources are telling him he left a little early and

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Speaker 1: got there a little early. Sources are also saying that

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Speaker 1: the g Man not great at the bracket, predicting baby

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Speaker 1: Creighton up forty seven twenty nine on Louisville with one

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Speaker 4: Go in the first man you've already conferred with.

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Speaker 1: We've got to give updates throughout, but we're gonna give updates,

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Speaker 1: all right, give the updates again. Eighteen fourteen perdue up

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Speaker 1: over high Point. All right, I might have high point

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Speaker 1: in this.

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Speaker 3: We have high point in our crazy bracket. We had

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Speaker 3: high point because we'd rather go to North Carolina, and

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Speaker 3: then we have Louisville over Creighton because we would Frighton's

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Speaker 3: up fort Oh boy, well, we'd rather host show.

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Speaker 1: That's bad. We have Louisville in the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 4: We have high high pointed to the sweet sixty h point.

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Speaker 1: This is complete out and I didn't even do the top.

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Speaker 1: It's complete nonsense. Our brackets already destroyed.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, that's all right, all right, we'll get an

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Speaker 3: update on bo Bishop.

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Speaker 1: So we only have two games underway. Two games underway,

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Speaker 1: there'll be a third starting what am I god? Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: Montana at about one oooh, Montana. Obviously that's a big one.

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Speaker 1: That is a big one. It's a big one for us.

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Speaker 1: I got all my.

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Speaker 3: Big ones are in the From a personal standpoint, We've

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Speaker 3: got Arizona and Saint Mary's in the same in the

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Speaker 3: same region in the east, but they wouldn't meet until

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Speaker 3: the Elite eight if they both want went on a

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Speaker 3: big run. My father's alma mater, my mother's alma mater.

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Speaker 3: And then at Arizona, the great Zago. I have Arizona

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Speaker 3: meet and Duke give me. That could be a real

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Speaker 3: war or for us if we get there.

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Speaker 1: I do as well in one and then I do

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Speaker 1: have the Zips taking them out in the first. Nobody

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Speaker 1: likes well people around Little Maction. I got to represent

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Speaker 1: the MA action. Gotta represent. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: These are our hot Topics of the day, presented by

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Speaker 1: March Madness has begun.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, I'm sure has gotten there that matters their brackets

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Speaker 3: in that's not the only thing that matters. We're can

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Speaker 3: get some other things that matter. In a second coming

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Speaker 3: up on the show, we will go around the league.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have Chris Trepasso of CBS Sports join the

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Speaker 3: Twisted Tea Hotline to talk about his updated mock draft,

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Speaker 3: which I like some of it. I I don't like

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Speaker 3: and I like his thinking.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I hope it's right that Trayvion would be

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Speaker 1: It's a big descript well, it's half less than less

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get highlights for Melk Kuiper's draft teleconference from yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Lots of good information about the quarterbacks and SHOULDR Sanders

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Speaker 3: March Madness updates, and then we got a mailbag today,

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Speaker 3: bit of Brown's news. The Browns are reportedly signing veteran

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Speaker 3: wide receiver and return specialist DeAndre Carter to a one

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Speaker 4: Carter will be entering.

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Speaker 3: His eighth NFL season, and the Browns will be his

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Speaker 3: He spent time with the Texans, the Bears, the Raiders,

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Speaker 3: the Chargers, of the Commanders, and the Eagles. He has

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Speaker 3: with the Bears, he averaged nine point three yards per

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Speaker 3: which was one of the highest figures in the league. Right,

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Speaker 3: g Man, Yes, and.

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Speaker 1: G Man also knew right away. He's like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he went to Sacramento State. I'm like, it's nine am.

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Speaker 1: Where did you pull that? Did you read that earlier? Nope,

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Speaker 3: G Man is an elite reservoir of information.

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Speaker 1: Of course he knew.

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Speaker 3: Carter also has one hundred and seventeen career receptions for

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Speaker 3: thirteen hundred and thirty one yards and six touchdowns. So

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Speaker 3: the Browns have been trying this for years. If we're

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Speaker 3: being honest about it, this is going back five years, right.

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Speaker 1: Because you had two years back further than that to

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Speaker 3: But I'm talking about getting somebody who had been incredibly

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Speaker 3: I think four years ago it was Jaquem Grant gets

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Speaker 1: The finale in Kansas.

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Speaker 3: Preseason finale, that's right, precin finale in Kansasity on his

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Speaker 3: Last year we signed Nahem Heinz never plays. And now

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Speaker 1: Work out.

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Speaker 3: We can't be bitten by the bug, you know, too long.

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Speaker 3: Now for the Browns, upgrading the return game I think.

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Speaker 1: Would be very very good.

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Speaker 3: I think it would be a good thing for this

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Speaker 1: It's been something I said, They've been chasing.

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Speaker 3: Brown's last year leader in punt return yards, Jalen Darden

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Speaker 3: had a good job ten point six yards a punt return.

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Speaker 3: when you're doing that, you know you're giving yourself some

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Speaker 1: All. It's the little things right.

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Speaker 3: It's the little margins, cheap signing guy who can play

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Speaker 3: for you, as I said, can play some receiver for you.

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Speaker 3: Have over a thousand yards receiving in his career, has

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Speaker 3: the biggest guy, no, but neither was Jacim Grant. Neither

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Speaker 3: Last year I had only nine catches for seventy two yards.

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Speaker 3: But again, it's been the returning that's where he has

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Speaker 3: Can we get some of what he produced for the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: keep you updated if we know anything. Oh Bo Bishop

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Speaker 3: here it is on Twitter. Great job out the United efficient,

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Speaker 3: great service left a little early, arrived a little early.

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Speaker 4: All wins sources of the Gabe.

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Speaker 1: We're true. Yeah on Twitter. I do follo him on

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Speaker 1: social media, even though he doesn't, even though he doesn't

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Speaker 3: There still no news, unfortunately for many of us, no

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Speaker 3: news right on, Nick Chubb, That's what I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of us are waiting for me.

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Speaker 1: Don't remember it being this quiet this early in free agency.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like this has been one of the quietest

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Speaker 3: haven't had that nice kind of second wave at all,

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Speaker 3: which is interesting. By the way, the Hoff is down

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Speaker 3: in the British Virgin Islands.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask where he's at something jost Yost Island.

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Speaker 1: I don't know it's Joe Thomas Island because the way

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Speaker 1: the fishing trip Hee and the kids went.

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Speaker 3: Up Yost van Dijk is the name of the island,

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Speaker 1: And the bb I congratulations on aug your success. Jack

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Speaker 3: You're only running backs on the roster right now.

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Speaker 1: Giving the wide receiver room currently. I think you need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, A nice conversation piece for mister Trapazzo in twenty minutes.

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Speaker 3: Well, he would say that Abdul Carr is better than

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Speaker 1: Correct? You got cam Thomas, not Ellierson Smith, and he

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Speaker 1: Marcus Haynes, I don't think those are those guys still here?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. Who are you on our lads?

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Speaker 4: Are you on our website?

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Speaker 3: Our website says for defensive ends al it's right, try

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Speaker 3: All right, defensive tackle room we've.

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Speaker 1: I bet they'd be fine with those four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I just think at the defensive tackle spot,

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Speaker 1: Right, Gosh, that stinks. J Okay.

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Speaker 3: You've got Devin Bush back, You've got Jordan Hicks, You've

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Speaker 1: Of the year. Anthony Kendall's on that way, Anthony Kendall

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Speaker 1: from Baldwin Wallace the Pride.

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Speaker 3: I mean you could add one here because they're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to make a decision at some point on on

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Speaker 3: gu In terms of what that looks like, the safety

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Speaker 3: is where you're I think you're waylight, and I'm in fact,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty surprised we have not addressed that yet. Right now,

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Speaker 3: all we've got is free safety Ronnie Hickman, strong safety

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Speaker 3: Grant Delpit.

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Speaker 1: I have a Christopher Edmonds and a trade Dean the third.

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Speaker 3: Chris Edmonds was an undrafted free agent last year. He's

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Speaker 3: more of a free safety and a tradeing the third

447
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Speaker 3: again has not played. I mean we need I was

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Speaker 3: shocked that we let d Anthony Bell go test the

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Speaker 3: market shot.

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Speaker 1: Sign. I don't think so. He visited with someone. I

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Speaker 1: think he.

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Speaker 3: Visited with Seattle. I want to say yeah, but I

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Speaker 3: don't think he has signed. I like the Anthony Bell

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Speaker 3: a great deal safety for the Brown first guy out

455
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Speaker 3: of West Florida to make the NFL. Yeah, it doesn't

456
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Speaker 3: look like he's signed. He had a visit with the

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Speaker 3: Seahawks a week ago, but we have not heard anything

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Speaker 3: of him signing. Uh long snapper, You've got Rex Sunahara, punter.

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Speaker 3: We've got our guy, Corey Bejorquez kicker. You've got d

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Speaker 3: Hop and hope that you know, obviously he can.

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Speaker 1: It spent a tail of two years for de Hop,

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Speaker 1: so you certainly hope that he can bounce back this season.

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Speaker 1: Did we have anybody else? We have another kicker, Andres Schmidt. Okay,

464
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Speaker 1: the Z threw me for a little loop from Syracuse. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that sounds right.

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Speaker 3: So defensively, this goes back to my point before. Defensively,

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Speaker 3: you're in a much better spot. Like if you had

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Speaker 3: to your starting lineup today would be Miles Garrett and

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Speaker 3: then you know the rotation opposite him of Isaiah McGuire,

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Speaker 3: Alex right Obo or Joe Tryon Shoyinka. Your starting defensive

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Speaker 3: tackles would be Malie Collins and Mike Hall, with your

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Speaker 3: backups being Shelby, Harris and Briggs. Your linebackers today would

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Speaker 3: be Hicks, j Okay, and Bush, and if no j Okay,

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Speaker 3: then it would be Mamou Diabat. Your corners would be

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Speaker 3: your three from a year ago, Denzel mj and Greg Newsom,

476
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Speaker 3: and your safeties would be Ronnie Hickman and Grant Delpit. Now,

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Speaker 3: to me, the biggest thing that's missing on defense is

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Speaker 3: that third safety. That's a big that's a glaring hole.

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Speaker 3: But the rest of defense you could kind of roll

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Speaker 3: with right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you need a little another linebacker, another

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but I'm saying like you could actually roll right now. Offensively,

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Speaker 3: you cannot roll right now.

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Speaker 1: No, I think you need.

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Speaker 3: You need a quarterback, you need a run you need

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Speaker 3: two running backs. You need Nick Chubb and you need

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Speaker 3: a draft running back. Quarterbacks, you need two quarterbacks, you

489
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Speaker 3: need probably two plus wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: You need at least.

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Speaker 3: One tight end, probably need one tackle, and maybe a center.

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Speaker 1: Or a guard center even better.

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Speaker 3: But I mean that's a big difference than how things

494
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Speaker 3: are right now on the offensive side. I mean on

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Speaker 3: the defensive side, defense, you are in a much much

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Speaker 3: better position, much better position. So again, that's why it

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Speaker 3: goes back to the draft. I'm using all my and

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Speaker 3: we're the worst scoring team league. I'm so I'm using

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Speaker 3: all my capital on the offen fensive side. I think

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Speaker 3: that makes a heck of a lot more sense.

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Speaker 1: And I just wonder, like we were talking about it

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Speaker 1: today because we didn't have we didn't have a lot

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 3: In I look down where sat, Where was the Indian food.

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Speaker 3: There she is, she's dancing, she's doing she's dancing, gliding

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Speaker 3: across the stage.

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Speaker 1: There should have been Indian food today.

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Speaker 3: I could add a delicious non I love none a hearth,

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Speaker 3: A hearth like to flatbread.

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Speaker 1: All the wonderful weather.

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Speaker 4: We're back to a little curry chicken.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Little lamb Rogan Josh. I've nominated myself to

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Speaker 3: be the foods are it's a little.

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Speaker 1: I think it can. I mean they do a fine job.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there are forces within the building. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do find job. That's why holding us back.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to be an advocate. Where's the

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Speaker 3: split pee with the smoked hamhawk? Where is it? By

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Speaker 3: the way, Holly was shocked to day. She's like, I

520
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Speaker 3: don't understand.

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Speaker 1: You don't like.

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Speaker 3: Parogis, but you like like dumplings or potstickers. And I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: what's that?

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Speaker 1: Why what's the confusion? What mean it goes? That is

525
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Speaker 1: not the same thing at all?

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Speaker 3: No, I said Holley, what's inside of a parogi? She's

527
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Speaker 3: like potatoes and cheese, So well, what's inside of a dumpling?

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Speaker 1: Meat?

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Speaker 3: Then veggies and garlic and all those things mixed together

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Speaker 3: into a little you know that the same thing at all? No, No,

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Speaker 3: mm hmmm, m big dump, big dumpling guy. I still

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Speaker 3: think there should be a restaurant nothing but dumplings. I

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Speaker 3: want king crab in a dumpling here, We got it.

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Speaker 3: You want some prime ribbon of dumpling?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Why not?

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Speaker 3: Any kind of dumpling you think of, have like a

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Speaker 3: taco dumpling. No one gets hurt, nobody gets hurt. I

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Speaker 3: think everybody's having a great time. Everybody's having the time

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Speaker 3: of their lives. Quite frankly.

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Speaker 4: All right, when we come back, we're gonna go around

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Speaker 4: the league.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we're gonna rum up some more news for everybody here,

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Speaker 3: but we're gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Around the league.

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Speaker 3: At won thirty one to forty, Christa Passo joins us

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Speaker 3: to talk about.

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Speaker 1: His three round mock draft.

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Speaker 3: But before we do that, let's go around the madness

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Speaker 3: to Yeah, give me updates to give back.

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Speaker 1: Creighton fifty six, Louisville forty sixteen thirty to go in

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Speaker 1: the second half from Lexington. Isn't that Louisville. It's like

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Speaker 1: a home game for the Cardinals. Well, halftime perdue on

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Speaker 1: top of high Point thirty seven to twenty seven. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's not great. The g man's loving life on that.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin just underway four to three on Montana. Okay, there

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Speaker 1: we go.

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Speaker 3: The winner of Purdue high Point will play the winner

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Speaker 3: of Clemson and McNee State. The winner of Louisville Creighton

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Speaker 3: will likely play Auburn in the round thirty two, and

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Speaker 3: the winner of Wisconsin Montana will play the winner.

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Speaker 1: Of byu vc U. All right, we go around the league.

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Speaker 3: Now, the Patriots have Stefan Diggs in town for a visit.

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Speaker 3: Dix coming off the torn acl he suffered in his

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Speaker 3: lone season in Houston. Potential weapon for Drake May. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he is a potential weapon for Drake May. And they

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Speaker 3: are in bad need of weapons.

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Speaker 1: For Drake May.

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Speaker 3: They have not really addressed that at all so far

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Speaker 3: this offseason. It's a parade of guests comes up the

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Speaker 3: stairs here, right, I mean a.

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Speaker 1: Real is Jay? Was Jay leading that charge? I mean

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Speaker 1: there's one hundred people coming, must have been one heck

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Speaker 1: of them. What is going on?

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Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like this in all my days.

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00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: That's seventy nine people by my account.

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Speaker 5: Perfect.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll glad that's over all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Stefon Diggs visiting the Patriots. They need to get receivers.

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Speaker 3: They have none, literally none for Drake May.

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Speaker 1: They got to get what what do they have left

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Speaker 1: money wise? Because they've been pretty active in the early

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Speaker 1: going here in free agency. No, it's a good it's

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Speaker 1: a good point.

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Speaker 6: Give it.

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Speaker 1: And let's see.

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Speaker 3: I think they're still in a pretty good spot.

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Speaker 1: Let's see cap space. Patriots came into it with the most.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if this has been updated. Oh okay,

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00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: so the Patriots, they still have eighty four million left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is eight on this on over the cap

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Speaker 3: says seventy three eighty one million point eighty one point five.

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Speaker 1: Who okay, So they could afford Stefan Diggs. Yeah they

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Speaker 1: can afford.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they just aren't paying any They have no receivers

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Speaker 3: at all.

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Speaker 1: So you would think if Hunter falls or your boy

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Speaker 1: out of Arizona, that could be a prime opportunity in

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Speaker 1: the first round.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people thought that, and then now people

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Speaker 3: seem to be down on t Mac. They don't like

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Speaker 3: the time that he ran his forty and although some

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Speaker 3: people said he ran in the four fours, which had

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Speaker 3: everybody all excited. So it's it's very hard to know

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Speaker 3: exactly what people are thinking. They're right now. The starting

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Speaker 3: receivers for the Patriots are do Mario Douglas, Kendrick Bourne,

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Speaker 3: and Kashawn Booty.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 4: They signed Matt Collins and free.

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Speaker 1: Agency, you'd sign j mack over here.

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Speaker 3: They draft Jalen Polk in the second round last year,

626
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Speaker 3: but he did not have a good rookie season. They

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Speaker 3: need weapons badly, badly, badly, badly badly. They made a

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00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: lot of moves on offense, but I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, defensively, they shored up a lot of things offensively.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got you've got a quarterback, might be

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Speaker 1: helpful to put a few weapons around him. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it is amazing how thin the Browns are

633
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Speaker 1: on offense right now. Defense you've got significant, much more depth.

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Speaker 1: The Comedy's just signed Michael Gallup, the.

635
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Speaker 3: Former receiver out of Baylor from the Dallas Cowboys. Gallup

636
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Speaker 3: had a couple of good years in the league. I

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Speaker 3: want to say, at least one.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, and then he got hurt. I think.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't really been much of a factor of late

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00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: four hundred yards three straight seasons. Twenty nineteen, he had

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Speaker 3: eleven hundred and seven yards average, sixteen point eighty catch,

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Speaker 3: six touchdowns. Follow that up the next year with eight

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Speaker 3: forty three and five. Then he gets hurt in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one, and he just has not been as explosive

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Speaker 3: war as utilized since then. Four forty five, four, twenty four,

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Speaker 3: four eighteen the last three seasons. But Washington good weapon,

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Speaker 3: another opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Why not? Why not?

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Speaker 3: So he had retired gallup, did you know this? No,

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Speaker 3: he had retired eight months ago, didn't play in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four, last played in twenty twenty three. So that's

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Speaker 3: just that's a we'll see. That's a sign, and that's

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Speaker 3: a sign, and we'll see what what what we've got

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Speaker 3: going on there. The Houston Texans have extended the defensive

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Speaker 3: end Daniel Hunter on a one year, thirty five point

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Speaker 3: six million dollar contracts So does that put him ahead

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Speaker 3: of Max Crosby?

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Speaker 1: Not sure, guy, I think it does. They've been busy,

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Speaker 1: they've been right there. They took off a guy that

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Speaker 1: you had yesterday. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Titans have also agreed to one year deal with free

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Speaker 3: agent tackle care M. Robinson. The best free available free

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Speaker 3: agent is off of the board, and I always want

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Speaker 3: the Browns aside him because then you could just kind

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Speaker 3: of relax a little bit, you know, draft wise.

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Speaker 1: And you can focus on the weapons.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of a weapon who's never really kind of hit

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Speaker 3: on all cylinders in the NFL. Wide receiver ron Dale

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Speaker 3: Moore signed a one year contract with the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 3: after missing the entirety of the twenty twenty four season

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins as a member of the Falcons. When we

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Speaker 3: started his career with the Arizona Cardinals. When we come back,

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Speaker 3: Chris Trapasso, CBS Sports will join us. We'll go through

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Speaker 3: his mock draft. See what he does for the Browns,

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Speaker 3: in the AFC North. All that and much much more

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Speaker 3: doing today and thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 7: I'm doing great, guys. We are fully in draft season

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Speaker 7: and it's great to talk. I'm in Buffalo with someone

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Speaker 7: that's not too far away, that knows that you are

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Speaker 7: always in a state of.

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Speaker 5: Rebuilding and that I do think brighter days are ahead

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Speaker 5: for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: I certainly hope so.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot of great friends in Buffalo, including

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Speaker 3: the man who birthed this show from his loins, the

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Speaker 3: great Vic Carucci of Buffalo Icon. Absolutely so, yes, we

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Speaker 3: are hoping that this will be the draft that gets

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Speaker 3: us out of it. Before we talked draft, though, I

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Speaker 3: want to ask you, we were just talking about this

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Speaker 3: earlier on the show day. Is this the quietest free

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Speaker 3: agency we've had in the NFL in a long long time?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely? I mean it lasted a couple of days. There

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Speaker 7: weren't a lot of marquee big signings. I mean Milton

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Speaker 7: Williams going from the Eagle to the Patriots, them swooping

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Speaker 7: in last minute when it looked like he was going

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Speaker 7: to sign with the Panthers. Not a lot of other

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Speaker 7: external free agents being signed by teams.

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Speaker 5: And I think.

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Speaker 7: Teams and more so players understand, Hey, look I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: maybe not take the absolute most I can get on

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Speaker 7: you know, in theory, on the open market, and I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna stay with the team and the system and my

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Speaker 7: family in the same city that.

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Speaker 5: I'm familiar with.

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Speaker 7: We saw a lot of those retentions happen actually before

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Speaker 7: free agency even started.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was part of it.

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Speaker 3: People just did not want to allow, you know, their

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Speaker 3: top talent to hit the market, and so we've had

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Speaker 3: this kind of quiet free agency period. We were going

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Speaker 3: through the Browns roster. Browns could feeld it a legitimate defense.

726
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: Today they cannot field a legitimate offense. And in your

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Speaker 3: first four picks for the Cleveland Browns, you have three

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Speaker 3: of them on the offensive side. When I did my mox,

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Speaker 3: I went all four because I just think this team,

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Speaker 3: when you're the last four offense in.

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Speaker 1: The league, you need weapons. Weapons. Weapons.

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Speaker 3: The big one we're going to talk about, though, was

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Speaker 3: obviously at the top of the draft, and what I

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Speaker 3: wanted to ask you about was cam Ward to the

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Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans pick one. Overall, the first thing I would

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Speaker 3: ask you is did when you were you at the combine?

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Speaker 5: I was at the combine, Yes, Yeah, didn't.

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Speaker 1: You feel or I did anyway, Mane.

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Speaker 3: We talked to different people, but coming out of the combine,

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Speaker 3: it felt like the sentiment was that the Titans were

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Speaker 3: not going to be taking a quarterback at one overall.

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Speaker 1: Did you do that? You feel that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? No, it did feel that.

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00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 7: And there was then the Abdul Carter news came down

745
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Speaker 7: that he has the foot injury. And then weirdly, and

746
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Speaker 7: this is kind of a phenomenon that it seems to

747
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Speaker 7: happen every draft cycle. No games happen, nothing really happens,

748
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Speaker 7: but then there's just gets to be a general sentiment

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Speaker 7: can change. Maybe because the Titans were so quiet in

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Speaker 7: free agency themselves at the quarterback position and we've seen

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Speaker 7: most of the dominoes fall at that position, I think

752
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 7: more people just realize, hey, they.

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Speaker 5: Probably just have to pick a quarterback with the first pick.

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Speaker 1: And right, and I understand that logic.

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Speaker 3: Their free agency, they've done nothing at that position to

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Speaker 3: address it. So it does seem to hint that maybe

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Speaker 3: that's the way it's going to go. Cam Ward kind

758
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Speaker 3: of just in your quarterback evaluations, you know what has

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Speaker 3: separated him, because it feels like for most I'd say

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Speaker 3: it's probably eighty percent of the community absolutely thinks cam

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Speaker 3: Ward is the number one quarterback in the class, and

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Speaker 3: they're still probably i'd say twenty percent maybe ten percent

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Speaker 3: that thinks it's Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 4: What is it about cam Ward for you? And why

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Speaker 4: was he the pick for the Titans?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just comparing those two quarterbacks, and you're right, those

767
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Speaker 7: are the consensus top ten. Most people do like cam

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Speaker 7: Ward more than the shoulder Sanders. Cam Ward to me,

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Speaker 7: has a little bit of a stronger arm, and he

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Speaker 7: has more of that improvisation that I think every team

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Speaker 7: is looking for at the quarterback position today that I

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Speaker 7: don't think either are tremendous athletes, but I think Sander

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Speaker 7: or but I think Ward, excuse me, is a little

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Speaker 7: better at making defenders myths in the pocket, still getting

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Speaker 7: an accurate ball.

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Speaker 5: Down the field.

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Speaker 7: And why I went with him to the Titans was

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Speaker 7: just for that exact reason that their head coach, Brian Callahan.

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Speaker 7: I don't think he's totally on the hot seat where

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Speaker 7: if they get off to a bad start, he would

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Speaker 7: be fired, like less.

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Speaker 5: Than twenty games into his coaching career.

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Speaker 7: But I think he needs an at least close to

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Speaker 7: five hundred season and just better quarterback play overall to

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Speaker 7: keep his job. So that's one where there is a

786
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Speaker 7: little bit of a weird overlap because he's in year

787
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Speaker 7: two their new GM, Mike Borgonsi is.

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Speaker 5: In year one.

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Speaker 7: Is that the player cam Ward that their new G

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Speaker 7: wants to say, this is my first ever pick with

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Speaker 7: the number one overall selection. In most drafts, I don't

792
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Speaker 7: think cam Ward would be the slam dunk number one

793
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Speaker 7: overall selection like we've really had the last four or

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Speaker 7: five drafts, but he probably is the best quarterback and

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Speaker 7: that position still carries more value than any other on

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Speaker 7: the field.

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt that it does.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things I was curious about, and

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Speaker 3: I've had I had a lot of discussions with people

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Speaker 3: at the combine whose opinions I respect a great deal

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Speaker 3: and yours is one of those that I respect as well.

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Speaker 3: Who said something I thought interesting if this draft was

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Speaker 3: ten years ago, that the way Shador Sanders plays the

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Speaker 3: game and his strengths ten years ago in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: he might he would have been the top quarterback on

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Speaker 3: everybody's board.

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Speaker 1: But because the league has.

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Speaker 3: Become such a chunk play and almost kind of second play, league.

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Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is out of structure,

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Speaker 3: you know, your primary option is not there, and you've

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Speaker 3: got to go and kind of create on your own.

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Speaker 3: That that's why cam Ward, you know, is regarded as

813
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Speaker 3: the better quarterback now because in some ways it's the

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Speaker 3: changes in the pressure packages stylistically how defenses are able

815
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Speaker 3: to get to quarterbacks that has made it harder for

816
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks to be necessarily the guys like a Brady or

817
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Speaker 3: a Breeze or even a Peyton Manning who they just

818
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Speaker 3: dominated by understanding everything in structure and going through their

819
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Speaker 3: progress their progressions and delivering the football on time inaccurately.

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Speaker 5: One thousand percent.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I didn't have that exact conversation with anyone

822
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Speaker 7: at the combine, but it makes a ton of sense

823
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Speaker 7: that Shador Sanders has a higher floor. I think he

824
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Speaker 7: wants to throw from in the pocket, he wants to

825
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Speaker 7: be in rhythm. But yeah, he's kind of playing the

826
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Speaker 7: drop back passing game of the nineties and into the

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Speaker 7: two thousands and early twenty ten, and I like to

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Speaker 7: call it the Patrick Mahomes line. After Mahomes and then

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Speaker 7: even in the next draft class with Josh.

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Speaker 5: Allen and Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 7: It was like, Yeah, you want a big time athlete

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Speaker 7: who you're not going to care if he throws two

833
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Speaker 7: or three passes across his body against his momentum, because

834
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Speaker 7: he's gonna make ridiculous things happen way more frequently with

835
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Speaker 7: the arm strength and the athleticism. So I think that

836
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Speaker 7: that philosophy or that thought that Sanders is more of

837
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Speaker 7: the traditional quarterback who would have been like ten to

838
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Speaker 7: fifteen years ago more than Ward is absolutely spot on.

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Speaker 3: Would you how much do you factor when you're doing

840
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Speaker 3: things like this? And we'll get to the Browns pick

841
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Speaker 3: in a second, because I have been adamant about here

842
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Speaker 3: we're picking second, let's take a shot at a quarterback.

843
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Speaker 3: Let's let's do that, and you'll you'll talk through why

844
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Speaker 3: you went with Abdul Carter over Shador. Do you think

845
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: like for a shaudor one of the things that kind

846
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Speaker 3: of went in my evaluation of him, And again, talk

847
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Speaker 3: to people that a Shanahan Stefanski. You know, we're getting

848
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Speaker 3: back to those roots. McVeigh, Kevin O'Connell. That's the scheme

849
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Speaker 3: that he will be the best in in the National

850
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Speaker 3: Football League.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent and I'm lower on Shoudeur Sanders

852
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Speaker 7: than I don't want to say most, because like you mentioned,

853
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Speaker 7: it seems like the vast majority of likes Ward higher

854
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Speaker 7: than him or more than him. But I'm evaluating just

855
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 7: based on, you know, a thirty thousand foot view of

856
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Speaker 7: the entire league. What you just mentioned, the play action,

857
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Speaker 7: the bootlegs, throwing in rhythm, not really having a big

858
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 7: desire or need to create outside of structure. Think Brock

859
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Speaker 7: Purty in San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan. That's where Shudur standers.

860
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Speaker 7: I think, could not only become a really good quarterback,

861
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Speaker 7: but come in and start immediately where you don't need

862
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Speaker 7: all Right, Hey, maybe he's not gonna start until October

863
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Speaker 7: and November.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's a Jalen Hurts type situation where you don't

865
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Speaker 5: really want him to start in year one.

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Speaker 7: So that adds some intrigue, and I could understand if

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Speaker 7: the Browns ultimately do pick him at number two. My

868
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Speaker 7: own evaluation of just the league at large would say

869
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Speaker 7: that's too early. But from the Cleveland Browns perspective, with

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Speaker 7: Kevin Stefanski and that play action, bootleg heavy system that's

871
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Speaker 7: very structured, it would make a lot more sense for

872
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Speaker 7: the Browns and any of the Kyle Shanahan coaching tree,

873
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 7: which is certainly growing, but it's not the entire league.

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Speaker 7: It would make a lot more sense for him to

875
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 7: be picked by one of those teams as supposed to

876
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 7: some other clubs that really kind of lean on that

877
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 7: athleticism and improvisation from their quarterbacks.

878
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: If you are the Browns, then given that your evaluation also,

879
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: but what you said there, that should or actually seems

880
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: to be a very good fit for what we do.

881
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: His skill set matches up well with what we would

882
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: want out of a quarterback. If if cam Ward, though,

883
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: is your clear number one, are you are you considering

884
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: doing what you need to do to get to number

885
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: one to get cam Ward in this draft?

886
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 5: See?

887
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 7: I wouldn't, I think for as much as I believe

888
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 7: that with Andrew Berry and with Kevin Stefanski, and it's

889
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 7: vital to have a really good GM that's smart and

890
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 7: a really quarterback friendly head coach.

891
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 5: And the Browns certainly have some have their warts, but

892
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 5: they have those two pieces in place.

893
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 7: I do think that there are brighter days ahead, and

894
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 7: and it's not six or seven years down the road.

895
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 7: I don't know if I would be not that they

896
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 7: would have to mortgage the future to move up one pick,

897
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 7: but I don't know if I would be too keen

898
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 7: on trading future picks in twenty twenty six potentially to

899
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 7: get cam Ward. I don't know if either of those

900
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 7: two Ward or Sanders are worthy of a trade up.

901
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 5: But the weird.

902
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 7: Caveat here is they would only have to move up

903
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 7: one selection. I certainly though, could understand. I mean, it's

904
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 7: one thing for me to think of this theoretically, it's

905
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 7: another for Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski to be like, we.

906
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 5: Just need better quarterback play, Like we're.

907
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 7: Gonna do this. We know it might be not the

908
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 7: perfect quarterback to trade up for, but let's just get

909
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 7: someone who's young, who's cost controlled and has upside on

910
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 7: the roster, and we feel like we can get the

911
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 7: most out of them. So the Browns, I'll never be

912
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 7: against them rolling the dice like you're saying at the

913
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 7: quarterback position. But as an evaluator, I would say, these

914
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 7: are not the quarterbacks that you traditionally do that for,

915
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 7: And in most drafts you have two or three of

916
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 7: those types that are worth trading up for we saw

917
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 7: it last year and we're probably going to see it

918
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 7: next year too.

919
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: With that being said, you have the Titan Saint cam

920
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: Ward one, you go Abdul Carter too. If there's one

921
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: room that actually feel decent amount for the Browns right now,

922
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: it is the edge room. Obviously with Miles Garrett, I

923
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 3: thought Isaiah MacGuire played well last year. Alex Right, you

924
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: take a gamble on a former first rounder in and

925
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: try and shol and you still got obo okaronko Here,

926
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: what is it about Abdull Carter that makes him so

927
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: special that a team who was the worst offense in

928
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: the NFL has such a valuable asset and is going

929
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 3: to put it on the defensive side of the football.

930
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question. And now I will say

931
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 7: there's a caveat here. I do a mock draft once

932
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 7: every week, so I'm trying I try to see how

933
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 7: different picks at the top would create a ripple effect

934
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 7: throughout an entire first round. And then this most recent

935
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 7: mac or this most recent mock, a three round mock draft.

936
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 7: I think just because Carter is a premier prospect that

937
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 7: probably the second or third most important position in the

938
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 7: NFL well, I think learning from Miles Garrett for the

939
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 7: first couple of seasons of his career, the nuances of

940
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 7: how to win in a variety of ways would be

941
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 7: vital for him and could really ascend him to that

942
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 7: all pro level. And even though I just said that,

943
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 7: he already has a plesora of ways to get to

944
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 7: the quarterback, affect the pocket, burst and bend first and

945
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 7: foremost nice collection of pass rushing moves to keep an

946
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 7: offensive tackle honest. And there's pretty good speed to power

947
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 7: conversion to his game. So if all the health checks out,

948
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 7: and I can't ever factor that in too much because

949
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 7: I don't know any of the medical information or know

950
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 7: how much it would impact a player's longevity and things

951
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 7: like that, I think abduall Carter is as clean as

952
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 7: you're gonna get in most cases at the edge rusher

953
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 7: position as a draft prospect.

954
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: So that would put the Browns absolutely loaded there the

955
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: tantem of Miles Garrett and Abdul Carter. Just as we

956
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: kind of go through a little bit, I'm gonna stop

957
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: on a few people.

958
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: In the first round.

959
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: Here you have Shaudor going seven to the Jets who

960
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: just signed justin fields and at seven to me, if

961
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: he's worth it at seven, I'm certainly I'm all in

962
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: it too. But it kind of locked through that one,

963
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: which certainly would be for the New York media market.

964
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: I would imagine a tremendous theater. Oh did he to

965
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: the Giants as well? Did you can sorry about it?

966
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 5: That?

967
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: Did he consider?

968
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

969
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 7: I certainly did. I feel like the Giants at this

970
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 7: stage are even like further from where the Browns or

971
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 7: this Browns regime is in terms of they're down the road.

972
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 7: If we just need competent quarterback play, we'd need it

973
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 7: so badly. If we don't start off well, if we're

974
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 7: Joe Shane and Brian Dable, we're probably gonna lose our jobs.

975
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 5: So that whether it's Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson or.

976
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 7: Someone else on the free agent market or trade market

977
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 7: that they're going to try to bring in, even Jameis

978
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 7: Winston bring in a veteran.

979
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 5: That's why I.

980
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 7: Didn't go with Shadar Sanders to the Giants, and for

981
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 7: the Jets, I just think it's such a fresh start

982
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 7: there with Aaron Glenn as the head coach, a new

983
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 7: general manager. Yes, they bring in Justin Fields but it

984
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 7: feels like the league as a whole knows that he's

985
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 7: not a long term five to ten year starter that

986
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 7: you're gonna plug in and just be fine at the position.

987
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 7: And this would create a little bit of a circus,

988
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 7: certainly a lot of drama like you mentioned, but it

989
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 7: would also insulate Sanders a little where he wouldn't be

990
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 7: forced into the starting lineup immediately. So I do, though,

991
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 7: understand what you're saying that if he gets picked at seven,

992
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 7: you'd probably on draft and I'd be like, why wouldn't

993
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 7: the Browns have just picked him at two? But I ultimately,

994
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 7: and I've certainly sent Sanders to the Browns in previous mocks,

995
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 7: this one I had him falling a little bit, almost

996
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 7: outside of the top ten.

997
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: All Right, you made a couple of picks that I love,

998
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: and we don't need to get into him too much,

999
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: but I like it t Mac to the Niners at

1000
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: eleven and then Tyler Warren to the Colts at fourteen,

1001
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: and if that happens, and that's kind of been one

1002
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: of the things I've looked at for them all off season.

1003
00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: Do they have kind of.

1004
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: One one of the most underrated good skill groups in

1005
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: the league, and that maybe Dan Dimes could kind of

1006
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: resuscitate things there. When you talk about you know, Jonathan

1007
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: Taylor in the backfield, you'd have Tyler Warren a tight end,

1008
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: and then you got Michael Pittman Alex Pierce who led

1009
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: the league in yards per catch. You got downs there

1010
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: as well, Ada n I Mitchell. I mean it's kind

1011
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 3: of would be a I feel like, kind of a

1012
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 3: sleepy loaded skill group there.

1013
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, absolutely, And two things I think about that

1014
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 7: if that's ultimately where the Colts go is you're right,

1015
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 7: they would have one of the most low key or

1016
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 7: underrated offensive skill position groups in the AFC. We would

1017
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 7: maybe if you're looking at Danny Dimes, maybe he could

1018
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 7: be that you know, at times competence starter that he

1019
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 7: was with the Giants. And if it's ultimately or if

1020
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 7: it's Anthony Richardson as a starter, the Colts would know

1021
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 7: what they have with him by the end of this

1022
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 7: third season because they would have a very diverse collection,

1023
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 7: with Josh Downs being the underneath guy, Ady Mitchell is

1024
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 7: the young route runner on the outside. Alek Pearce can

1025
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 7: get down downfield as well as any big wide out

1026
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 7: in football, and then Ty Warren who was the focal

1027
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 7: point at Penn State and was so good just using

1028
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 7: his physicality to win at the catch point. And then

1029
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 7: obviously Jonathan Taylor and a pretty good offensive line. If

1030
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 7: they didn't see jurassic improvement from Anthony Richardson, they will

1031
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 7: have known, all right. We tried to do the best

1032
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 7: we could to put selling around him, and he just

1033
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 7: wasn't the quarterback.

1034
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: No doubt about that.

1035
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: Talk with Chris Trapasso from CBS sports dot Com about

1036
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: his mock draft a three round or Browns go Abdul

1037
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: Carter at two. We're just going through the first round

1038
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: real quickly. I hate Malachi Starks to the Bengals. I'll

1039
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: just say that out loud. No, I've had no interest

1040
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 3: in that whatsoever. People who are big fans of Justin

1041
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: Herbert would love Colston Lovelin go into the Chargers there

1042
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: later in the first round as well.

1043
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: Let's get to the second round.

1044
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: And now it's where it gets in traces and now

1045
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: you say, okay, now we're taking.

1046
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: The swing at quarterback and it's Jackson dark.

1047
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: Now we've seen a lot of mocks recently that have

1048
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart making his way into the first round? What

1049
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: is it that you like about Jackson Dart? By the way,

1050
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: I also did a mock and you're gonna laugh at

1051
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: me now as I'm looking at this forty seven of

1052
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, you have Trey Harris ole miss I had him.

1053
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: I wanted him for the Browns in the third round.

1054
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: So maybe you're.

1055
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: Dashing my dreams there. But nonetheless, Jackson Dart his quarterback.

1056
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: Speaking of Trey Harris, why did why thirty three? Do

1057
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: you think it's possible there? And what do you like

1058
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 3: about him? And can he be the answer? And the

1059
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: reason I asked this is the Browns have done this

1060
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: ad nauseum, not take a quarterback early. We've only taken

1061
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: a quarterback in the top ten twice since nineteen ninety nine,

1062
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: Tim Couch, Baker Mayfield. But they'll punmle a quarterback late

1063
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: in the first round, they'll pummel a quarterback in the

1064
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 3: second round. You know they'll go that route and it

1065
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 3: has not worked out. Why could Jackson Dart be different?

1066
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 7: Well, because a lot of the reasons that I am

1067
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 7: a little concerned about should your Sanders' draft profile. I

1068
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 7: think Dart checks those boxes that I think he's a

1069
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 7: clearly better athlete than Shoulder Sanders. He was a highly

1070
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 7: touted recruit transferred to Ole Miss, started for three.

1071
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 5: Straight seasons in the SEC, played in a.

1072
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 7: Lot of big games.

1073
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 5: They never really quite got.

1074
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 7: Over the hump and like won the SEC or anything

1075
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 7: like that, but they were routinely competitive against the Alabama's

1076
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 7: and the Georgias. I like that he has kind of

1077
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 7: like quarterback amnesia, where he can throw an interception down

1078
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 7: the middle.

1079
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 5: On the next drive, he's gonna make the same throw again.

1080
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 7: And he's going to be a little bit better with

1081
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 7: his ball placement and throw a thirty yard strike on

1082
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 7: that play. So I like that he's aggressive playing with

1083
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 7: Lane Tiffin. The offense is a little gimmicky. It's a

1084
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 7: lot of RPOs and just go routes, but his footwork

1085
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 7: looks pretty good. I don't think he's someone that would

1086
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 7: be totally opposed to being in a more structured system,

1087
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 7: and it probably could help him a little because I

1088
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 7: think at times he gets overly aggressive and wants to

1089
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 7: shoot everything down the field when there's a checkdown or

1090
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 7: there's a throw in the flat that would be available,

1091
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 7: and you would feel like Kevin Stefanski would hammer.

1092
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 5: At home, like, hey, you're young, You're in this structured offense.

1093
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 7: Just take the seven yard completion, live to see another down.

1094
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 7: And I just like how his pocket navigation, his ability

1095
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 7: to elude defenders and never really look overly flustered even

1096
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 7: against those marquee talented defenses in the SEC. So I

1097
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 7: think it's not surprising that we're starting to hear some

1098
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 7: momentum of Jackson jar potentially being a first round pick, because.

1099
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 5: He's someone that didn't have a lot of hype early.

1100
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 7: On, and then people got to watching the film, They're like, actually,

1101
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 7: this is a pretty talented, improvisational quarterback that has a

1102
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 7: pretty strong arm, and it's pretty accurate. I don't understand

1103
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 7: why he can't be in the same conversation with Shador

1104
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 7: Sanders and Camboard.

1105
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: So I've started to watch him.

1106
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: I've again in a little I was obviously way more

1107
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 3: in on Shador and cam Ward and watch them.

1108
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 4: Sure, I like a lot of what I see. He

1109
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 4: does make some big time throws.

1110
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: He makes some ill timed eye I would say, bad interceptions.

1111
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: It felt the one thing though, that I couldn't get around,

1112
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 3: and this is I The notes are the notes, and

1113
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: the tape is the tape, but there is something from

1114
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: a statistical standpoint that I just thought was a little

1115
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: bit interesting. He was under sixty percent completions in five

1116
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 3: of the eight SEC games, and it just in college

1117
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: today that to me could be completely wrong about it,

1118
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 3: but that just seems a little alarming.

1119
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: Was do you have a reason for that.

1120
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: Was there something tape that I'm not seeing that gives

1121
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 3: you comfort around that, because you know, you look at

1122
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: some of the other guys, you know, I know Schador

1123
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: doesn't have a single game under sixty percent completions, and

1124
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 3: I don't think Cam did either. Maybe had one, but

1125
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: it was quite a few for Jackson Dart.

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00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 5: No, that's a really good question, Nate, and it's important to.

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00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 7: Bring that up because, and I'm not at all insinuating

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Speaker 7: that you believe that completion percentage is the endlbl at

1129
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 7: the quarterback spot for evaluations. But from what I remember

1130
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 7: off those games, when he was facing the competition in

1131
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 7: the SEC, it was almost like Lane Kiffen was just like, Hey,

1132
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 7: we're gonna throw a couple screens, but we're gonna chuck

1133
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 7: it deep like fifteen times a game. So if you

1134
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 7: look at the average depth of target for shille standers.

1135
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 7: I actually just yeah that I And that's what I

1136
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 7: was getting at where I think darts some of his

1137
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 7: reasoning why I have like a second round grade on

1138
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 7: him that I've written in my notes, like decision making

1139
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 7: in some opportune times not very good, just like you mentioned,

1140
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 7: like you saw it too. I think being in a

1141
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 7: more structured system with a coach that has yeah, that

1142
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 7: would help to say, look, here's your triangle read. You

1143
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 7: don't always have to throw the corner route. Why don't

1144
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 7: you just throw it to our back, throw it to

1145
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 7: Jerome Ford, let him get seven yards, and now it's

1146
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 7: second and three. Where it felt like the completion percentage

1147
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 7: was probably a bit lower because Lane Kiffin is like

1148
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 7: bubble screen, bubble screen.

1149
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 5: Go route, go rout, post route.

1150
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 7: So I think that's probably why his completion percentage was

1151
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 7: a little bit lower than his contemporaries.

1152
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: Makes sense.

1153
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: You are listening to eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns

1154
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 3: Zaily brought you by bally Bet. We're talking with christ

1155
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: Passo on the Twisted Tea Hotline. Twisted tea, hard iced tea.

1156
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 3: Let's keep it twisted Cleveland, all right, Chris, we appreciate time.

1157
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: You very generous so that I was just having fun

1158
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: talk with you. To be honest, I love talking ball.

1159
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: We'll go real quick through your other two picks for

1160
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: the Browns. I love this one Trayveon Henderson. In my

1161
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: mind you might need him at thirty three, but I

1162
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: love this pick to the Cleveland Browns. What do you

1163
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: like about Travion and the fit? When you're saying check

1164
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: it down to Jerome Ford, in my mind, I was thinking,

1165
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: not after this draft, you're checking it down to Travion Henderson.

1166
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't want to spoil the pick too early.

1167
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 7: That was my thought too, that that's like literally the

1168
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 7: exact plan that I had with these Brown selections. Travion

1169
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 7: Henderson is up there as one of the best receiving

1170
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 7: backs in this league or in this class. I should say,

1171
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 7: good hands, great vision, and just so explosive. He ran

1172
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 7: sub four I think you're in four to four one

1173
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 7: or four four two at the combine, very very fast,

1174
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 7: also a big timer crew, just explosive, and I think

1175
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 7: the Browns adding more explosion in their backfield and just

1176
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 7: to the offense in general.

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00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 5: Like you mentioned, that was one of the worst in

1178
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 5: the league.

1179
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 7: Where you can take a dump off and turn it

1180
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 7: into a forty yard game. That's where Travon Henderson really

1181
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 7: thrived at Ohio State.

1182
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: He certainly did.

1183
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 3: And then finally you're with you listen, right, we're not

1184
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: too far apart here, weapons, weapons, weapons. You get Colorado

1185
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 3: State wide receiver Tory Horton. What can you tell us

1186
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 3: about Tory Horton and how he could project.

1187
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 5: Here so productive in college?

1188
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 7: And I'm not trying to say that I'm or insinuate

1189
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 7: that I'm a box score scout, but I think yet

1190
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 7: wide receiver, if you have two three four years where

1191
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 7: you are the high volume target in your offense, you

1192
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 7: go over a thousand yards, catch a bunch of touchdowns.

1193
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 7: Unless you're like a low caliber athlete that doesn't have

1194
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 7: the physical skill set to play in the NFL, chances

1195
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 7: are you're going to be a pretty quality prospect in general.

1196
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 7: And Tory Horton tested very well. To combine that was

1197
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 7: some injuries in his final season at Colle out of state,

1198
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 7: but before that was a little bit of a bigger

1199
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 7: body who on film shows the ability to get open.

1200
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 7: He can run the entire rout tree. He has good.

1201
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 7: You know, hip fake, shoulder fakes, the route salesmanship that.

1202
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 5: You want to see.

1203
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 7: And I think he's pretty good in those contested catch situations.

1204
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 7: So there's nothing about his games that is like spectacular.

1205
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 7: But as a third rounder to add and learn from

1206
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 7: Jerry Judy, I think they're kind of similar wide receivers

1207
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 7: and two that I think could be almost interchangeable in

1208
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 7: their roles.

1209
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 5: Where they align. He can play on the outside.

1210
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 7: It would just be a rock solid wide receiver to

1211
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 7: add to this wide receiver group.

1212
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Speaker 3: I love that, Chris, this is great stuff. By the way,

1213
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 3: You're going to make our producer Jason Gibbs very happy.

1214
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 3: Harold Fan and Gibbe goes fifty seventh in the second

1215
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: round out of Gibbet's alma mater, Bowling Green one guy.

1216
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: That and maybe I miss it because I was glancing

1217
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: quickly when I watched a lot of cam Ward. I

1218
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 3: came away very impressed with Elijah Royo the tight end.

1219
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: Did do you have him in the in the top

1220
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: three later a day three guy?

1221
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 5: Don't?

1222
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 7: I don't think I put him in this exact three rounder.

1223
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 7: Dealing with an injury during the pre draft process, and

1224
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 7: that usually doesn't help a prospect, but no, on film,

1225
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 7: he's as smooth and fluid as you're gonna get at

1226
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 7: the tight end spot in this class. A little bit

1227
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 7: underweight relative to his height, but if you want explosiveness

1228
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 7: and big plays, you're right.

1229
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 5: I mean you saw it.

1230
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 7: Cam Wore looked to him often and he was the

1231
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 7: one taking shallow crosses forty fifty yards down the field.

1232
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 7: So he's an intriguing guy. I just wish and I'm

1233
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 7: sure he does as well. And all NFL teams that

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01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 7: he would have been healthy, could have, you know, worked

1235
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 7: out and played more in the Senior Bowl and worked

1236
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 7: out at the Combine, because he kind of felt like

1237
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 7: one of those players who could have erupted in Indy

1238
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 7: and then we certainly would have been talking about him

1239
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 7: as a first or a second round pick.

1240
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 3: Listen, I'll take him with the top of the fourth

1241
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: round in your mock draft. That would be just fine

1242
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 3: with me. Chris, thank you so much for the generosity

1243
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 3: of your time. Enjoyed talking ball with you and everybody.

1244
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: Check out his mock draft at CBS dot com. Thanks

1245
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 3: have a great day, man, really appreciate.

1246
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 5: It all right, Nate, thanks a lot.

1247
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: All right there.

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01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 3: It is Christopher Pass He's got the Browns. Abdul Carter two,

1249
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart thirty three, Traveon Henderson sixty seven, and Colorado

1250
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: State wide receiver Tory Horton. Very productive. Sounds like maybe

1251
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: another Colorado State receiver. It was very productive that made

1252
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 3: his way to the Browns.

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01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: Gibbei from Colorado State. Yeah, you'd be talking about Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: Hollywood Higgins. Yes, indeed, I most certainly with the man

1255
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: who walked the red carpet with tremendous panache. All right,

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Speaker 3: that was a lot of fun. We're going to take

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01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 3: a break here. When we come back, we're going to

1258
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 3: keep rolling around here an hour number two talking draft

1259
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 3: mel kiper his draft teleconference from yesterday. Lots of good

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01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 3: information on the quarterbacks and much much more. Bus we'll

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Speaker 3: think of draft analysts, you gotta think of Mel Kiper,

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Speaker 3: the hair finally quaffed that takes flaming hot. Here is

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Speaker 3: his draft teleconference from yesterday, Melkiper.

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Speaker 5: Mel appreciate your time.

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Speaker 8: I know you've been very consistent and having Shador as

1277
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 8: QB one. Uh why do you maybe project cam Ward

1278
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 8: to the Titans at one if that's the case. A

1279
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 8: couple of things now, I think you know, for me

1280
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 8: it was always been Chador, but the consensus around the league,

1281
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 8: and I'm not trying to match what the league's doing,

1282
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 8: and the mocks certainly aren't trying to provide the rating

1283
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 8: that I have the demacas strictly about what the NFL

1284
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 8: may do, and obviously the rankings board.

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Speaker 6: I have Shador ahead of cam just.

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01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 8: Slightly, but most have that I've speaked spoken to, and

1287
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 8: then I'll speak to everybody obviously, just the you sample

1288
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 8: a few people and you see what the consensus is.

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01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 8: And I think field Yates feels the same way that

1290
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 8: cam Ward is the consensus number one quarterback. Why because

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01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 8: he has a stronger arm and he's more mobile. Uh,

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01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 8: And course Chador took a lot of sacks. When I

1293
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 8: looked at the numbers, chador sacks over the last two

1294
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 8: years were similar.

1295
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 6: To what you know.

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01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 8: Cam had two years at Washington State before he went

1297
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 8: to Miami this past year. So I think when you

1298
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 8: look at cam I think for them for tennessee the

1299
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 8: arm strength, the angles, all the different arm angles he throws,

1300
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 8: from the mobility that he has. He had seventeen rushing

1301
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 8: touchdowns over the last three years.

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Speaker 6: Cam Ward did. All that leads to that.

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 8: And of course, you know Chador is only six to

1304
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 8: one and a half two twelve. He doesn't have explosive

1305
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 8: arm strength or explosive legs. So you're talking about a

1306
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 8: traditional old school pocket.

1307
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 6: Passer that's gonna need help.

1308
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 8: He's gonna need an offensive line and fun of him,

1309
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 8: just like you know Brady needed coming out of Michigan.

1310
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 8: That was my comment when he was selected in the

1311
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 8: end of the sixth round. He needed an offensive line.

1312
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 8: He wasn't gonna be able to maneuver like a camboard

1313
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 8: can or even what Mahomes does slipping and sliding the

1314
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 8: way he does and moving around and certainly and not

1315
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 8: to the extent of any of.

1316
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 6: The other great overle quarterbacks like Josh and Lamar and others.

1317
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 8: So I think for Shador, you gotta know what you're

1318
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 8: getting and be happy with a old school traditional pocket passer,

1319
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 8: and with cam he gives you that kind of new

1320
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 8: wave where you can something's not there, he breaks down,

1321
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 8: he can create, so he'll be much more creative in

1322
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 8: that regard.

1323
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 9: Hey, Mel, thanks for doing I appreciate it.

1324
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 6: Well, thank you.

1325
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 9: You mentioned Chador obviously, and it seems like we've spent

1326
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 9: about three months talking about everything that Shador can't do

1327
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 9: and why he's not the number one quarterback. You have

1328
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 9: not wavered off of where you've in with the Giants

1329
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 9: at three having him go there. Just your thoughts on

1330
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 9: on that pairing and what have you seen from Shadoor

1331
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 9: that seems to be on a different track than so

1332
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 9: many people are talking about of how he's not, you know,

1333
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 9: a fit in in today's NFL as a quarterback like

1334
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 9: you said the school pocket passer exactly.

1335
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 6: And I think you know it's it's at this time.

1336
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 8: Of the year when you get closer to the draft

1337
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 8: and these jobs are on the line, and it's the pressure.

1338
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 8: You know, you go with the guy who has the

1339
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 8: more of an impressive physical skill set, and.

1340
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:35,959
Speaker 6: And that would be cam Ward.

1341
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 8: I get that, but I think it doesn't always determine

1342
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 8: who the best quarterback is in the NFL. And certainly

1343
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 8: some really good, some great, the greatest of all time.

1344
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 8: Think about Johnny and II is Tom Brady. You know,

1345
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 8: we weren't going to beat you with their legs, and

1346
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 8: you can still win from the pocket. So I think

1347
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 8: that's still something at Shador knows how to do and

1348
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 8: he does very effectively, and shaudor also with Dion and

1349
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 8: and the same thing when you think about when Eli

1350
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 8: with Archie, I think being able to handle pressure and expectations,

1351
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 8: he does that very well. That this whole circus atmosphere

1352
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 8: people think we'll come with Chador is a ridiculous that's

1353
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 8: not gonna happen. Dean was a great player, He was

1354
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 8: a great teammate. He was all about working hard, preparing

1355
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 8: to win it the right way, chadur is the same way.

1356
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 8: So to me, the Giants are a really good fit.

1357
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 8: Day Bowen and Shane can pick their own quarterback. If

1358
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 8: they love them, you take them.

1359
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: If you don't, you pass.

1360
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 8: But somebody's got to play quarterback in the division with

1361
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 8: Hertz and Jayden who's going to be phenomenal and he

1362
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 8: already shown has shown that, and certainly Prescott and the

1363
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 8: NFC is growing every year in terms of quarterbacks. Caleb's

1364
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 8: added to this vision. Jordan Love emerged, you know, Bryce

1365
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 8: Young emerged last year after that rough start, and and

1366
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 8: Jayden was great and Michael Pennix junior maybe they hope,

1367
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 8: very very good.

1368
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 6: So the NFC is catching up to the AFC a

1369
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 6: little bit.

1370
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: So if you're a team.

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01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 8: Like the Giants, you gotta at some point, you know,

1372
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 8: get that quarterback. And this is there's a lot of

1373
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 8: other quarterbacks other than the top three, which we go

1374
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 8: down to Jackson Dart. There's that group of you know,

1375
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 8: Will Howard Tyler or Shock, Kyle McCord, Jalen Milrokee, when

1376
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 8: you weers, Curtis Rourke, Riley, Leonard, Dylan Gabriel, that group too.

1377
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 8: If you like one of those, you can wait a

1378
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 8: little bit. But for the Giants, if you love Shador

1379
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 8: Sanders and you're the Giants at three, if cam Ward's gone,

1380
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 8: and if you try to trade up from three to

1381
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 8: one to get cam Ward and the Tennessee doesn't want

1382
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 8: to move out of there, then they have to decide

1383
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 8: if they love Shador Sanders enough to take him at three.

1384
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 10: Hey, though, nobody has a bigger mess that quarterback than

1385
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 10: the Browns. So why do you have them taking Abduam

1386
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 10: Carter instead of uh instead of Shador?

1387
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 8: Jeff, It's a great question because I thought about that,

1388
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 8: and Adam Schefter thinks it could be maybe Shadoor, But

1389
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 8: I kept talking to him and I'm thinking, Okay, if

1390
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 8: nobody seems to think these quarterbacks belong up there, then

1391
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 8: are both gonna go one to two. And for Cleveland,

1392
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 8: Kenny Pickett's there. We don't know what Kenny Pickett is.

1393
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 8: He showed some good things and then he fell often

1394
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 8: they moved on. You know, I think when you look

1395
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 8: at Shador, there's not that consensus that he is deserving

1396
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 8: of being that high a pick. So for Cleveland, the

1397
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 8: weather can conditions, you can say, well, the Giants, you

1398
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 8: have to deal with that as well, but you have

1399
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 8: to think Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Baltimore. You know that was

1400
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 8: one of Okay, at six one, AF two twelve doesn't

1401
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 8: have the great arm strength with that scare them off.

1402
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 8: I just went with the gut one that you could

1403
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 8: go with Shador to Cleveland. But everybody was saying that's

1404
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 8: too high, it's too high. So I went with the

1405
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 8: guy that I thought this, Jeff, I thought, pier abdul Carter,

1406
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 8: Abdull Carter with Miles Garrett the wide nines. Look about

1407
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 8: getting after the quarterback and have somebody the doubling. You

1408
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 8: know Miles, Now you got abdul Carter, who's a phenomenal player.

1409
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 8: You gotta beat these great quarterbacks in the AFC two

1410
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 8: in addition to getting your own. So I thought a

1411
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 8: good way to go about it, to attack it is

1412
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 8: to get a special There's two special players in this

1413
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 8: draft only in my opinion, and that's Travis Hunter and

1414
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 8: Abdul Carter. Those are the two special special players. I'm

1415
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 8: perceived by specials. But there's the other guys that emerge.

1416
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 8: But I'm saying going into the draft, I think those

1417
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 8: are the two guys that we all agree are the

1418
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 8: two you want to call them generational talents, go ahead

1419
01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 8: and do that.

1420
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 6: Those are the two guys that are special.

1421
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 8: And I thought with with Garrett, having that other guy

1422
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 8: opposite Garrett that could be close to a good is

1423
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 8: something that I think they would prefer to have and

1424
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 8: like to have.

1425
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 11: Hey, Mail appreciate the time. I'm just I'm curious if

1426
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 11: if quinn Ewers did anything at the combine to impact

1427
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 11: your your view of him, and and maybe if there's

1428
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 11: anything you're interested in learning about him still as his

1429
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 11: pro day comes up next week, Yeah, Quinn's.

1430
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 8: In that and that's in that tier after you say

1431
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 8: the top two, and then Jackson Dart and then Tyler

1432
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 8: Shucks moved up, and then you have that group of

1433
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 8: as I mentioned, Colin McCord and and Will Howard and

1434
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 8: and you get into with quinn Ewers and that mix

1435
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 8: as well Riley Leonard and Dylan Gabriel and Jaln Milrow,

1436
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 8: all those guys.

1437
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 6: But Quinn, I would say, leveled off.

1438
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 8: I think when you look at his ability as arm talent,

1439
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 8: it's it's it's not a Howitzer, but it's there.

1440
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 6: He can make the throws.

1441
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 8: He tends to loft throws and take a little off

1442
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 8: when I haven't seen him, like you say, muscling throws

1443
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 8: and they talk about powering throws. Everybody said, that's pretty

1444
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 8: obvious that you haven't seen him do that. You know

1445
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 8: when he needs a at ninety five mile an hour fastball, Yeah,

1446
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 8: he takes a lot off those at eighty eight, you know.

1447
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 8: So to me, I think you know you know what

1448
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 8: you're getting with Quinn at this stage of the game.

1449
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 8: He's a certainly has the potential to be a starting

1450
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 8: quarterback in the NFL.

1451
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 6: Is he gonna be the Kenny Pickett type who you

1452
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 6: know you take? But she'd say, is.

1453
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 8: He good enough to be great? I don't see that

1454
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 8: potential to be And that's what everybody's looking for. You're

1455
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 8: not looking just for average play at quarterback any longer,

1456
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 8: so if you will, you're not looking for a single

1457
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 8: or even a double at this stage of the game.

1458
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 8: You're looking for a triple home run, preferably a Grand

1459
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 8: Slam home run. Grand Slam was what teams want. They

1460
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 8: always say, I want a quarterback to play the consistently

1461
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 8: high level. That's telling you all you need to know.

1462
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 8: They're the days of being okay with a single double

1463
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 8: or over just about you know, the surrounded quarterback by everything,

1464
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 8: and we got a pretty good shot.

1465
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 6: They don't want that.

1466
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: So that's where.

1467
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 8: Quinn kind of falls into maybe ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. Yeah,

1468
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 8: when you're okay with a single double, fine, I don't

1469
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 8: view him as a Grand Slam home run, and I

1470
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 8: think that's what's gonna push him down just a little bit.

1471
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 12: Mel, thanks for some much for doing this. As always

1472
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 12: a with cam Ward, he started it incarnate word. I mean,

1473
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 12: did you break down his film from there and see

1474
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 12: any potential that he could do what he did at

1475
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 12: Washington State and Miami early and kind of building off

1476
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 12: that last question for my second question would be Saquon

1477
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 12: Barkley and these running backs this year. How much did

1478
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 12: that pull the draft value up for jent Omari on

1479
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 12: some of these running backs?

1480
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 6: Well, I think in terms, let's get to cam Ward first.

1481
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 7: Bill.

1482
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 8: I think when you look at you mentioned incnet word

1483
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 8: and you know, yeah, sack rate at that point, the

1484
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 8: interceptions he threw tenable that year, but you saw the

1485
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 8: talent and you saw the arm talent. I watched him

1486
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 8: there and then he goes to Washington State, he saw

1487
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 8: the exact same thing. That's why I was getting calls

1488
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 8: saying cam Ward's interesting guy. I mean, he can throw

1489
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 8: the football with anybody. And then at Washington State he

1490
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,919
Speaker 8: was sacked a lot, but you know, throw a touchdown passes,

1491
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 8: he's rushing for touchdows on the ability to beat be

1492
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 8: the defense with his legs, and the completion percentage was

1493
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 8: up around sixty seven percent. He did the exact same

1494
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 8: thing at Miami, so he played three different programs at

1495
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 8: a high level, and he cut down on the sacks

1496
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 8: this year. Even though his sacks, you know in some

1497
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 8: games where I thought he's just a little nonchalant at

1498
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 8: times in the pocket where you know, you got to

1499
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 8: be able to get the ball out, and he was

1500
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 8: afforded an opportunity to make plays.

1501
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 6: In the NFL, you're not going to be able to.

1502
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 8: So it's just things that have to be a little quicker.

1503
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 8: Everybody's got to be a tick faster. But and he

1504
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 8: does put the ball in harm's away at times.

1505
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 7: He does.

1506
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 8: He has had shown that he could be reckless and

1507
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 8: careless with the football, but he improved.

1508
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 6: On that this year.

1509
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 8: So there's a lot to like. Armtown is like I say, undeniable.

1510
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 8: He's got the mobility, he can beat.

1511
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 6: You with his legs.

1512
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 8: He had twelve rushing touchdown seventeen over the last three years,

1513
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 8: so you know, there's a lot to like about cam Ward.

1514
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 8: And to say he's not deserving, I mean five, I've

1515
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 8: probably blow higher. I've bet five six on a big board.

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Speaker 8: I should door at five. So five and six of

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Speaker 8: the quarterbacks, some have him even down further than that.

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Speaker 8: And that's why there's a there's not a consensus these

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01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 8: quarterbacks going high because the ratings are way are not

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01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 8: even close to where you have to be to be

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Speaker 8: the first second pick in the draft. So that's the

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Speaker 8: tough part built answer the question about projecting where these

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Speaker 8: two are going to go.

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Speaker 6: One team. All you have to do is love one

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01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,959
Speaker 6: of these quarterbacks and you're gonna take them. Tennessee.

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Speaker 8: Seems like it's Ward who loves Shador enough to take them,

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01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 8: who loves Dart enough to take and we're shucked. That's

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Speaker 8: gonna be an individual preference because it's not a consensus

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Speaker 8: on any of these guys.

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Speaker 3: There is mel Kiper lots of good stuff there. He

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01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 3: likes Schador best in this draft. A lot of people

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: like cam Ward Best in this draft. The Browns pick second,

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 3: and we heard even Chris Presso say, you know, this

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01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 3: is the perfect system for shadeor Sanders. How this plays

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01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: out will be so interesting. I just think the Browns

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01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 3: have got to find a way to have conviction, and

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01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 3: if they don't, then you can't do it. But if

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01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 3: you have conviction to have conviction about one of those

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01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks, and if it's only one, figure out what

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 3: it takes to get to number one and get the

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01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 3: quarterback that you are convicted about. We need some more

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Speaker 3: mail bag questions, so get them in right now.

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Speaker 1: Give it to you. Put to ask out on social

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Speaker 1: All right, do we have some people? We have anything?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 1: Anything? My friend give me, he's excited.

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Speaker 3: All right, We're good the mail bag wrapping it up

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Speaker 3: for the mail bag. Give a update me here. What's

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Speaker 3: happened in the madness.

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01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: Purdue's winning sixty six fifty eight over High Point with

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01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: like five minutes to go.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so that's not done yet, and and Creyighton was.

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01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: Just under the four minute time out. Now Creighton is

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Speaker 1: your first winner in the tournament. They take down Louisville.

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01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: That takes one team out of the sweet sixteen for me,

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 3: which should have just gone with Auburn. Why didn't we

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01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 3: want to host Auburn Daily?

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 1: I wanted to. Well, Auburn plays next, They're gonna win.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you would. Yeah, I don't know

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: why you why.

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 3: I want to host Louisville Daily. I guess Louislle is

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: a fun city. We talked it Bourbon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and what are the other ones? MANA Wisconsin up

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01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: forty to thirty two on Montana at half thirty six

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01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: eighteen Houston rolling si u E. Who is Houston the

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01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: one seed? Yeah? Or at least we have that one

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01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: right until we decided we'd rather.

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01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: Vacation in Spokane, Washington over Houston, Texas.

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01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: I still think that was a good decision. This bracket

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01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: is toast already, it's already toasted. I don't know. I

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01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: can't wait to see it up against the g man

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Speaker 1: in Jmax. All Right, tweet your questions to us at

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01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 1: Brown's Underscore Daily. We have thirteen minutes and it starts now.

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01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 1: Robert Pace with the news on Conklin's contract. I say,

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01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: resigned Chubb now is in today? What say you? I

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01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: would be into that very much, though I'm just looking

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01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: at him right now, looks spectacle.

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01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 7: Yes.

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01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 3: I really, I really hope it happens. I really hope

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01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 3: it happens. And I mean, at this point, it feels like.

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: I think the goes the better, the chance he's back.

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.

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01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 3: Although I just say, let's stop it and bring him

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 3: in back, Come on back, come home.

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Speaker 1: Chris tweets at the show he asked about Chubb, but

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01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: question he asked three questions.

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01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 3: By the way, number Chubb is the number one thing

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01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 3: I don't know about for you when you like, that's

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01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 3: the number one thing that I'm being asked about. What

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01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 3: are we going to do at number two? And when

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 3: are we signing Nick Chubb? That, yes, those are the questions.

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01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: It's a two. It's a it's a combo. It's a

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01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 3: left right boom boom. You know it's a como.

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01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:49,839
Speaker 1: Sure, Chris tweets at the show, give five good reasons

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01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: not to sign Flacco over other ve qbs. Who does

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01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: he mean? Like who I would assume any of the

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01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: other veterans that are still available. So he's a proven winner.

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: But he wants my reasons not to not to sign Flacco. Yeah,

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: well he does give the ball away. I mean, that's it.

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01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 4: And he's older. Those are the only two things.

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01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 3: Really It comes down to his age and that he's

1617
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,879
Speaker 3: not a potential long term solution. I'm not saying Carson

1618
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 3: Wentz is a potential long term solution, but at least

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01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: he's still a relatively speaking young man.

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01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: Correct.

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01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz is thirty two, so you know, in quarterback years,

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01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 3: you can still have another good forty years or so.

1623
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco is forty, by the way, turned forty January sixteenth,

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01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Joe Flacco. So I think that's that's really it.

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01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: That's that's it. Okay, I'd love if Joe Flacco. If

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 3: the Brown draft quarterback at two, you have Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 3: and you have Joe Flack. I think that's a wonderful

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01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 3: quarter I'm totally fine with that. Yep, totally fine with it.

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Speaker 1: Final question from Chris, what is the lowest pick you

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01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: would trade back to Thanks and loved the show. I

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01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to.

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01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 3: I I would rather trade back if I'm getting some

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01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 3: significant assets for it, then not take a QUARTERBACKT two

1634
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 3: fair and at that point to me, I think, you know,

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01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 3: I'd want to go down and I would. I'd want

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01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 3: to stay in the top ten, top seven, maybe Jets, Raiders.

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01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 1: That's that's the area I'd want to be in. Uh

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01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: Alec Cleveland needs to take gram at two. That's the

1639
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 1: only answer.

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01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: Mason Graham, the defensive tackle. To me, if you're I'd

1641
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: rather trade down with somebody and then take a D

1642
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 3: at two, I'm sure he's he is a very very very.

1643
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: Good player, but not I think you could probably get

1644
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: him at five or I.

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01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 3: Just think, Abdul Carter, if you're doing if you're if

1646
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 3: you're taking somebody at two, Abdul Carter. Travis Hunter seemed

1647
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 3: to be a little bit more exciting, but there's no

1648
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: doubt Mason Graham is a very very good player and

1649
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 3: will be I think a pretty safe bet to be

1650
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 3: a very good pick.

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01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: Uh, mister fantastic. If Sanders falls and we take someone

1652
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: else at two, when would you consider trading back into

1653
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: the first round? I think the question should be would

1654
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: you consider trading back into the first round? Absolutely? I would.

1655
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,839
Speaker 3: I just it gives me. It just makes me nervous.

1656
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 3: It feels like Brady Quinn, Johnny Brandon Whedon, now they

1657
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 3: were all picked twenty two, but it just feels like

1658
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 3: you jump back in and that's what I don't know. Yeah, absolutely, though,

1659
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if there's a world where you could draft

1660
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter and then come at and you still get

1661
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 3: your door at the end of the day, I would

1662
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 3: be completely fine with that.

1663
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 1: It feels risky any of the sixth round picks that

1664
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: we have because that.

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01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 3: I think you'd have to give up going from the

1666
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 3: second to the to the first, You're probably gonna have

1667
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 3: to give up.

1668
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: You try to make sure that you.

1669
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: Know it depends where you're going in the first, but

1670
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: it's probably going to be significant.

1671
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: It's going to have significant cost to it. Yeah.

1672
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd like to be able to get rid of

1673
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 3: baby do a third maybe a future second if you

1674
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 3: feel that strongly about it.

1675
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's probably where you'd be at. Uh Trey carry,

1676
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: When will we get g Man merch? I need a

1677
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: new quarters at g Man should have merch.

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01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 3: It's kind of I feel like I people have dropped

1679
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 3: the ball the fact that he hasn't.

1680
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: Had it yet. There you go.

1681
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 3: I like him all right, g Man. I'd wear g

1682
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: Man merch. What would you want on there? G Man

1683
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 3: like a bz G logo? I think that sounds like

1684
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 3: absolutely is what I heard?

1685
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 1: Yes, he said absolutely, Uh love a dog today, tweets

1686
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: up the show. Get used to hearing yourself on the

1687
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: radio or seeing yourself on TV. And then he said

1688
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: this picture showed up on a Facebook reel yesterday.

1689
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, that's from WrestleMania thirty. That comes up

1690
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 3: all the time. Is it like a sports Kidia or

1691
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 3: whatever that place is called. They that picture is in

1692
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 3: all it's all the time. That was WrestleMania thirty when

1693
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: brock Lesner beat the Undertaker and broke his streak, and

1694
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 3: that was.

1695
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, total disbelief. I remember the New Orleans said Casey

1696
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: Cootless's house, New Orleans. So that was That's what that

1697
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: pictures from that picture makes it. Oh, I mean at

1698
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: least four texts a week of.

1699
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 3: Somebody being like, yeah, I saw you in this article

1700
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 3: seriously like all the time.

1701
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: It's very funny. Uh enough from the clown. Give me

1702
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: what was the best part of your vacation any Saint

1703
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: Patrick sta Shenanigans. It was only seventy one degrees on

1704
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: Saint Patti's Day. It was a beautiful day, not a

1705
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 1: cloud in the sky. But the retirement community we were at,

1706
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 1: there were two hundred people maybe around the pool. No

1707
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: one was in the pool except for me, and we'll

1708
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: leave it at that. I like that, though, Gay, but

1709
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: I like that you were your out Tampa. Huh.

1710
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 3: Remember when we went to Tampa for joint practices and

1711
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: we were in like that hotels pool and we were

1712
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 3: the only ones and then it just started like a delus.

1713
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: Yes it is insane. Yeah yeah, but that pool was amazing.

1714
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: We can go back there for joint practice. Practice was

1715
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: in the morning. We did a show. We were done

1716
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: at three o'clock for the day. Yeah, perfect, not afraid.

1717
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 5: Uh.

1718
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: Dog Pound, Cleveland brown You did college mascots yesterday, Power

1719
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: rank the top five toughest mascots for NFL teams. Both

1720
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: Brownie and Chomps qualified. Well, then we would put them

1721
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: in the top two. Dog Pound, all right, I would

1722
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: say top five toughest. I think I'm showing a little

1723
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: bit of bias here. I think of mascots. It's not

1724
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: Tuddy or whatever the heck it is in Washington, whatever

1725
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: that thing was that we saw.

1726
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 3: No, but they would have been if they were still

1727
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 3: their previous name. Well correct, So I quickly came up

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Speaker 3: with and tell me if I'm wrong, Patriots.

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Speaker 1: These are revolutionary war heroes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cowboys. Yeah, forty nine ers were gold prospectors. They're

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Speaker 3: walking around pick axes digging for gold. I'm sure they

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Speaker 3: could scrap. Okay, you don't like that one as much.

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Speaker 3: The steelers are. This was like steel workers feel like

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Speaker 3: that's a pretty tough group. I will not What do

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Speaker 3: you mean your love your Pittsford give right now?

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Speaker 1: Bengal? How about the Bengal?

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Speaker 3: So I went with the Lions as an animal, although

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Speaker 3: a jet like it just flies over you and drops

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Speaker 3: bombs on you. The New York Jets, what about the

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Speaker 3: New York Giants? They're giant people. Giants would have to

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Speaker 3: be on there.

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Speaker 1: They're giants.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Falcons, Oheers, Yeah, Buccaneers. All right, I'll take the

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Speaker 3: Niners out for a pirate, and I'll take the Steelers

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01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 3: out for a giants. We got giants, Buccaneers, Patriots, and

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Speaker 3: cowboys that Jets, I feel like, I mean Seahawks, no Rams,

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Speaker 3: no Cardinals, no Niners, Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, commanders.

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Speaker 1: So cowboys and giants.

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Speaker 4: Oh the Vikings, dude, Lions out have to be out.

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Speaker 1: Niners are out.

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Speaker 3: It's giants because they're giant pirates, the Buccaneers, Vikings.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots were revolutionary war heroes. And the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels pretty good. That's it. That feels pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I love that about that. Jen tweets at the show

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Speaker 1: did you hate the second season of Severns? I thought

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01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 1: it was a huge letdown after the first season finale.

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Speaker 1: There's your meme right now. It's been unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I will agree that the first episode of the second

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Speaker 3: season that immediately comes after the finale, you're like, this

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Speaker 3: was I did not love that episode. But by episode

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Speaker 3: two and then the one where they're out of the wilderness,

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Speaker 3: this season.

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Speaker 1: Is rolling rolling.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for tonight. Quite frankly, I think they

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01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 3: should have had a little wherewithal. They should have ran

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Speaker 3: the release it last night prior to the tournament. But

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for tonight nine pm Eastern. They say

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01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 3: the episodes drop on Fridays, but thanks to a great

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01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 3: one of our listeners, they're like, no, actually, Thursdays at night.

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Speaker 3: Guess what it's right, This one's like a movie. It's

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Speaker 3: I think it's an hour and twenty minutes. Oh goodness,

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Speaker 3: gracious me, I can't wait. This is This is as

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Speaker 3: appointment viewing as I recall having anything and quite sometime.

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Speaker 1: So yes, very excited. No, I think season has been excellent.

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Speaker 1: All right, yo, doctor Z. This is from Victor run

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Speaker 1: Yo solo dolo today. Oh baby, seems you maybe a

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Speaker 1: wine connoisseur sometimes any good recommendations for around twenty to

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01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: thirty a bottle, a smooth red perhaps shout out givers

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Speaker 1: and g Man on the sticks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I like, And it's typically

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Speaker 3: right around thirty. I think one of the better value

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01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 3: cabs you can get is Baringer Knights Valley. Baringer Knights

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01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 3: Valley is an excellent, excellent wine. The twenty one in

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01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 3: particular is very tasty, and usually that's right around thirty,

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01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 3: maybe thirty one, but it's right.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of in that ballpark. Lava Cap is.

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01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 3: Kind of near the lake country in California, and that's

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01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: that's a cheaper one, but that's pretty that's a pretty

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01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 3: darn wine and cab as well. But I would say

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Speaker 3: if you're going like thirty, if you're willing to, you know,

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01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 3: scretch like thirty two.

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01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 1: Baringer Knights Valley. I think is we'll get to a

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Speaker 1: few more of these tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Keep them coming, kids, Keep them coming, because we got

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Speaker 3: mail bags to do, we got talks to have.

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01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll have some news for you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, sure, we'll see all right, so.

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Speaker 1: Much more to come.

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Speaker 1: All Right. Welcome in March Madness underway.

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Speaker 3: Nathan Zegura here the cross Country Mortgage Campus clemb Browns

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Speaker 3: Gibbet's let's the latest talk to us?

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Speaker 4: Can high point do it?

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Speaker 1: No? No, definitively no. Thirty eight and a half seconds left, boiler.

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01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 3: Up by ten, so that means I can only bo

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Speaker 3: and I in our crazy bracket. We are now captain

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Speaker 3: a maximum of fourteen of the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: We are not, though, g man in the bracket that's

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Speaker 1: going up against you head Louisville in the final four

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01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: and lost.

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01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 3: Oh well, that's nice until our seed that we have

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01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,799
Speaker 3: going to the championship game UNC gets eliminated by Ole MISS.

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Speaker 1: That'll be great. Uh. Creighton beat Louisville eive YEP at

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01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 1: halftime all Houston as they're beating Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville.

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Speaker 1: Great Little Institution for Partying fifty two to twenty four

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01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. Wisconsin holding on and beating Montana fifty six

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01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: forty seven with thirteen and a half to go in

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Speaker 1: the second. Okay, it's close. At least it's respectable.

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Speaker 3: So so far, only is Creighton's the only upset thus

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01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 3: far and eight nine that's hardly an upset exactly. Okay,

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Speaker 3: right now we're chock. What's the rest is it? What's

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01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 3: the rest of the slate today?

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Speaker 1: Decent?

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01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Let's see coming up at two point fifty Auburn Alabama State. Okay, sorry,

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01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: Clemson McNeese, I don't know. Mcneese's coach is already leaving,

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01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: going somewhere else. I think he's going to NC State.

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Speaker 1: We have winning huh.

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Speaker 4: I know how in the world we'd rather vacation decision. Yeah,

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01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 4: they got the ultimate hype man, though they're they're Uh.

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01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: Manager is the ultimate hype man.

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01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 4: The way he comes out with a big boombox and

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01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 4: everything like that.

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01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 1: I love the way that floor. There's two there's two

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Speaker 1: games four oh five and four thirty two. Good ones

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01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 1: b y U VCU and Gonzaga Georgia. Uh. Tonight Kansas

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01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: ar Kansas at seven to ten. Uh, Texas A and

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01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: m and Yale at seven to twenty five. That'll be

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01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 1: a decent one. Saint John's Omaha nine forty five, the

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01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 1: one that everybody's picking for an upset except for me,

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01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: Michigan taking on UC Sandago at ten o'clock tonight. There's

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01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 1: a whole slate, man, There's.

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Speaker 3: Like Arizona's tomorrow. Sat Mary's is tomorrow, right, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the big that's the big stuff there.

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01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 3: That's the big stuff right there, all right. The next

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01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 3: level is next. The madness rolls on here. We want

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Speaker 3: to thank christra Pass a big shout out to him

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Speaker 3: from CBS for spending all that time with us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to the Great.

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Speaker 3: Milk Kuiper as well forgive a g man, Doctor J.

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