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Speaker 1: to come up with a pull question, but he does
Speaker 1: more than that. He comes up with a couple of
Speaker 1: poll questions. Yes, mclub exciting news too. I have our man,
Speaker 1: Ethan is helping me with today's poll questions. So you're
Speaker 1: not able to handle the duties and now Ethan, who
Speaker 1: does our stats, is now helping Well, it's not like that.
Speaker 1: That's what it sounded like. No, No, we all came
Speaker 1: to a consensus on what question we wanted to ask
Speaker 1: that I turned to Ethan for some numerical supportasical. All right,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that. Yes see he's reaching across
Speaker 1: the aisle if you will, oh, ok, sending a hand,
Speaker 1: all right, great timing, great timing to reach as across
Speaker 1: the aisle. Everybody play nice, yes, Paul. It's like a
Speaker 1: rapper and a country start collaborating on a song and
Speaker 1: trying to hit the charts. Those two so like Billy
Speaker 1: Ray Cyrus and who was the uh oh well natz
Speaker 1: X Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot that great song. Yes,
Speaker 1: MC club. I will guarantee all the pole results will
Speaker 1: be tallied on time. You're counting every vote. Yes, although
Speaker 1: sometimes when you call him me, I don't expect it.
Speaker 1: I might make up the result. You have made up
Speaker 1: the results before. Ahead, well, I'll go to the last
Speaker 1: time I looked, which might be forty minutes ago, in
Speaker 1: which case the results have changed. But that's an eternity.
Speaker 1: Let's not even get into that. Okay, Welcome to the program,
Speaker 1: as you can tell, already in progress here, A little feisty,
Speaker 1: a little frisky on this Friday, Packers roll over the
Speaker 1: nine Ers thirty four seventeen, Davante Adams ten catches one
Speaker 1: seventy three in the Town. The NFL finds the Raiders again,
Speaker 1: the NBA officially starting December twenty second. This weekend, you
Speaker 1: do have the Big one with Clemson and Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Don't sleep on BYU and boise I. Don't you know?
Speaker 1: If BYU runs the table, they're not going to be
Speaker 1: in the Final four. I would love to have had
Speaker 1: a Final eight. College football can't get anything. The NC
Speaker 1: Double A can't get anything together quickly, so that's not
Speaker 1: going to happen. But I wish that they were open
Speaker 1: to it this year. Michigan and Indiana, also Florida and
Speaker 1: Georgia as well. We're told there's no excuses in football,
Speaker 1: at least in the NFL. At least there aren't supposed
Speaker 1: to be. Good teams just adjust. We hear it all
Speaker 1: the time, and they got injuries and you just try
Speaker 1: to make do with what you have. The Niners, well,
Speaker 1: the normal rules don't apply. The Niners have legitimate excuses
Speaker 1: this year, decimated by injuries. Nobody has lost more games
Speaker 1: with their players to injury than the Niners have this year.
Speaker 1: They lost four more players this week to the reserve
Speaker 1: COVID list, quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo and George Kittle. They were
Speaker 1: out last night. Most of the receiving corps was out
Speaker 1: last night. Really, they had a shell of their normal
Speaker 1: offense and they got blown out last night and defense
Speaker 1: ran into You know, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers has performed.
Speaker 1: I would say Aaron Rodgers esque. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we're waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Remember we weren't quite sure.
Speaker 1: There were people who said they didn't know if Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers was a top ten quarterback this year in August.
Speaker 1: Didn't know if Aaron Rodgers top ten quarterback. He makes
Speaker 1: it look easy. I'll say it, and I'll say it
Speaker 1: until he retires. Nobody has ever made the position look
Speaker 1: easier when they're at the top of their game than
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. For years, there seemed to be a jinx
Speaker 1: on the team that lost the Super Bowl. You know,
Speaker 1: had a lot of years where you didn't even get
Speaker 1: into the playoffs that following year. But that's the case
Speaker 1: for the Niners. They're right there against the Chiefs. That
Speaker 1: was only back in February, which seems such a long
Speaker 1: time ago. Hopefully they get healthy, the core group gets
Speaker 1: another chance to compete at that level. But right now
Speaker 1: they have to hope they can just put a competitive
Speaker 1: team on the field. And the more I was watching
Speaker 1: the game last night, and the Packers got their star
Speaker 1: running back, Aaron Jones back. Prior to the game, we
Speaker 1: weren't sure who was going to be their running back.
Speaker 1: And I started to think, Okay, the Niners don't have anybody,
Speaker 1: no one, and they're only a seven point underdog at home.
Speaker 1: And I kept thinking, Okay, there's no home field advantage
Speaker 1: for San Francisco. Start there. Packers have everybody for the
Speaker 1: most part. Rogers is playing at a high, high level,
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is playing great, and you're going out to
Speaker 1: San Francisco. And I kept thinking, what does Vegas know
Speaker 1: that I don't know, Not that I would have put
Speaker 1: money down on it, but I kept going, They're only
Speaker 1: seven point favored. And then all of a sudden, they
Speaker 1: just start to blow them out out and I go,
Speaker 1: what was Vegas thinking? And I said to PAULI, let's
Speaker 1: get Bret Musburger on. He's the Raiders play by play voice,
Speaker 1: and of course he has a gambling site that he
Speaker 1: works for in Las Vegas, and Brent will join us
Speaker 1: next hour. I'm not sure what it was, but and
Speaker 1: I don't know where the money went, but it just
Speaker 1: felt like that was a two touchdown underdog type feel
Speaker 1: to it. Maybe maybe twelve somewhere in that it felt
Speaker 1: like that. And then you start to watch the game
Speaker 1: and you go, oh, man, hold on for dear life
Speaker 1: because San Francisco is going to get blown out here.
Speaker 1: But Brent will join us coming up next hour, mclub
Speaker 1: And what's the full question we're going with today? Okay,
Speaker 1: we're still working out the choices here, but if you
Speaker 1: could sign one wide receiver in the NFL to a
Speaker 1: four year contract to build around the choices so far?
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins twenty eight, Davante Adams twenty seven? Do we
Speaker 1: put Julio Jones on there? Devant Hey Adams turns twenty
Speaker 1: eight next month? Uh? Do we put Julio Jones on there? How?
Speaker 1: Julio Jones thirty one? Okay, Michael Thomas, DK metcalf do
Speaker 1: we put O'Dell on there? If you want to? Um,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, yeah right? And Tyreek Hill all right? Let
Speaker 1: me play what Davante Adams how he responded to a
Speaker 1: question last night. Now, he was asked about this and
Speaker 1: it wasn't one of those after the games saying I'm
Speaker 1: the best receiver in the game. Here is the question
Speaker 1: and his answer. I think you're at the point where
Speaker 1: you can say you're the best wide receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's fair to say? Uh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's fair to say. I think that's not that's
Speaker 1: not being conceded, that's just being confident. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: you know obviously what I've what I've done, and UM,
Speaker 1: what I'm going to continue to do is going to
Speaker 1: prove that, um to anybody who isn't on board with that.
Speaker 1: But I truly believe that just based off of the
Speaker 1: work that I put in, UM, and the connection that
Speaker 1: I have between my quarterback. You know, it's not just
Speaker 1: about me. I mean just running a route and uh
Speaker 1: you know, if if the line isn't protecting, or if
Speaker 1: the quarterback doesn't look your way, or the other receivers
Speaker 1: don't do they're part the poor defenders away. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: that's none of what I could do can happen. So
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'll tell you, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: i think I'm the best war receiver in the in
Speaker 1: the game. But um, there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: go into me being able to make that statement. That's
Speaker 1: Davante Adams with mclovin also in there. It doesn't match
Speaker 1: the headline. It feels like Davontae Adam is. You know,
Speaker 1: he's saying, Hey, I'm the best receiver. I mean, he
Speaker 1: agreed with the question, and I don't have any problem
Speaker 1: with this if he thinks he is, great. I we
Speaker 1: we wanted both ways, like, oh, man, you can't be
Speaker 1: saying that too. Man. I'm glad he said it because
Speaker 1: it gives me content. He feels it great. I have
Speaker 1: no problem with that, but I wanted to have the
Speaker 1: contact of it, because if you just see the headline,
Speaker 1: then he might think, oh, who does Davante Adams think
Speaker 1: he is? And Fritzie even said that in the morning meeting,
Speaker 1: and I said, we're gonna play it for you in
Speaker 1: its context, and then you're gonna understand he agreed with
Speaker 1: the If the reporter says, who do you think the
Speaker 1: best receiver in the game is, and then if he
Speaker 1: says I think I am, that's a little different than
Speaker 1: do you think you're the best receiver in the game? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I heard fair to say yeah. When I heard him
Speaker 1: that he said that. My initial thought was that's, you know,
Speaker 1: being arrogant and brigand and it's a turn off. But
Speaker 1: the way he posed it, I see that comment in
Speaker 1: a much different layer. I love the answer. If I'm
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I love that he says that I want
Speaker 1: him to feel like he's the best receiver. I want
Speaker 1: him to feel that every single game when I go
Speaker 1: out there, I have to be great. And that's part
Speaker 1: of being the best receiver in the game is every
Speaker 1: game they're game planning for you. And I'm there's not
Speaker 1: a great player in any sport who goes I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Remember when I asked Steph Curry about
Speaker 1: who's a better offensive player? That was a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, and I asked him, I think four years ago,
Speaker 1: did I ask him who's the best offensive player in
Speaker 1: the game? And he said that he was, And people
Speaker 1: are like, can you believe Steph Curry said that. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if he said, you know, I'm not even
Speaker 1: the best offensive guy on my own team, and I'm
Speaker 1: probably not, you know, maybe the fifth best, you know,
Speaker 1: in the West. Right now, I want my guys to
Speaker 1: feel that way every single show that I do, I
Speaker 1: want to prove that I'm the best that does this.
Speaker 1: Whether I do it or not, my mindset is you
Speaker 1: want to do that every single show. Wish the Dannets
Speaker 1: would follow suit. But now it's on me, which makes
Speaker 1: it makes it even m Sorry, are you the best
Speaker 1: booker in the business? Yes? Okay, I don't know if
Speaker 1: i'd be that confident. But how's that working out today? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh no, come on, come on, get him on. That's
Speaker 1: an easy show. You know we do that. It's bad
Speaker 1: timing for that answer from you time. Mike Floria is
Speaker 1: joining us in the final I know it's quality now
Speaker 1: you got Florio. Yeah, that's unbelievable. You should have told
Speaker 1: me is a quality or quantity? I'm trying to how
Speaker 1: does this swear? How do I get judged? I like quality?
Speaker 1: The quality of quantity is what I like. How about
Speaker 1: more quality? Yeah? See, it's not for me to say
Speaker 1: who was a good book or not two minutes ago on.
Speaker 1: It's I don't like to get into that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's not your place to say that today. Other people
Speaker 1: make those decide on a you know, maybe a four
Speaker 1: guest day. But I did I did drive in this
Speaker 1: morning with the attitude that I am. Okay, okay have
Speaker 1: that attitude. No, no, it doesn't always work out. Look,
Speaker 1: you work hard, you do that's for meat Friday. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's you're good, you work hard, you care. Yes, mc
Speaker 1: cle That sounds a little bit like Mike Zimmer saying
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin is a good player? Did you see that headline?
Speaker 1: And Everson Griffin was an upset that he wants to
Speaker 1: get back at Mike Zimmer called him a good player? Right,
Speaker 1: That's like Todd working hard is the good player? Meaning yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one of those stories where the Lions defensive end
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin upset. Mike Zimmer called him, quote a good player.
Speaker 1: This is the best I felt in a long time.
Speaker 1: I got a little frustrated when I read that comment
Speaker 1: what Zimmer said, Oh, Everson was a good player, Griffin
Speaker 1: said Thursday, like coach Zimmer just wasn't a good coach.
Speaker 1: He was a great coach to me, So for him
Speaker 1: to call me a good player that kind of hurts
Speaker 1: my feelings. On Sunday, I'm really looking forward to playing
Speaker 1: the Vikings and showing them that I'm a great player.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm ready to execute. Mental health is strong,
Speaker 1: my physical health is strong, my mind is strong, and
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go out there and dominate. I'm ready
Speaker 1: to create, adapt and go out there and win. Who's
Speaker 1: with me? Oh that's right, we're the Lions. Maybe nobody.
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin got called a good player. That's going to
Speaker 1: motivate him? So he wasn't going to be motivated going
Speaker 1: against his former team? Is Mike zimmer plan? By the way?
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna play in the game, is he?
Speaker 1: But he's gonna go out there and he's gonna prove
Speaker 1: it to somebody. Yes, and coach speak is saying someone's good.
Speaker 1: But is that a negative? Like? Is Everson Griffin? Right?
Speaker 1: Was Zimmer taking a little shot there? Did you know
Speaker 1: how coaches are always like the guy who were playing
Speaker 1: this week is the best player I've ever seen? Yes,
Speaker 1: you're right that that's normally the case. Even Belichick has
Speaker 1: been known to hyperbole, you know, fall prey to hyperbole. Uh,
Speaker 1: George Kodle, He's the best tut in that I've seen
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, mclu did you see this week
Speaker 1: Bruce Arian said that Alvin Kamara is better than Marshall Fault. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a classic example of hyping up your opponent. Yes,
Speaker 1: I I don't think he's better than Marshall Falk, but
Speaker 1: this week, Bruce Aries, it's better than going. He's not
Speaker 1: quite Marshall Falk, but he's a good player. Then, Alvin
Speaker 1: Kamaron going. Did you hear what, Bruce Arians? He called
Speaker 1: me a good player? Yeah, you know you want to
Speaker 1: do the good player thing. Take it into your home life.
Speaker 1: Imagine your wife just got back from the store and
Speaker 1: she had a dress and she's tried on. Hey, what
Speaker 1: do you think of my new dress? You said that
Speaker 1: looks good? You're over man, You're cooked. Your weekend is shot.
Speaker 1: If you don't say that that dress looks awesome, hot, great, beautiful,
Speaker 1: you have to it's much safer to overcompliment than to undercompliment. Somebody. Well,
Speaker 1: that's your wife. Though a coach and a player is
Speaker 1: a relationship. But it's a former player former coach, then
Speaker 1: he must not have been that helpful to his cause. You. Okay,
Speaker 1: how about a former girlfriend of yours and you saw
Speaker 1: her and you were telling somebody you saw her. Would
Speaker 1: you say she looked good? What would you say she
Speaker 1: looked great? What am I talking to? Not your wife? Okay,
Speaker 1: not your wife. Yes, when Paul brought up his wife,
Speaker 1: I thought he was talking about another area where you
Speaker 1: don't want to hear you were good, not great, It's Friday,
Speaker 1: was good? Where are we going? What happened? That's great? Yes, time,
Speaker 1: But you could also overstate or overcompliment. If you look
Speaker 1: like the coach that screams all the time, you tune
Speaker 1: them out. If every time you're a wife or a
Speaker 1: girlfriend who's looking for a compliment and everything is amazing,
Speaker 1: or you're you're incredible looking, or that's work looks perfect
Speaker 1: on you, And when is it like legitimate? If anybody
Speaker 1: should overcompliment their wife, it's you. Yes, you should be crawling.
Speaker 1: But but then what am I Then I'm basically calling
Speaker 1: my wife insecure. She needs me like to tell her
Speaker 1: how amazing you should follow her dropping rose petals everywhere.
Speaker 1: I think you gotta mix it up a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what. It looks nice. The other thing, Wow, look
Speaker 1: at it, look like you're ready to go out of
Speaker 1: the town. But if everything, I don't know if a
Speaker 1: woman ever gets tired of hearing you look great. That
Speaker 1: looks great no matter what she's wearing about it, what
Speaker 1: she's doing. I don't know if a woman ever gets
Speaker 1: tired of that. And that's it insecuted and you have
Speaker 1: your okay if someone's just always telling you how wonderful
Speaker 1: you are, like it changes your person out and then
Speaker 1: you think you know your your mystery. Do you ever
Speaker 1: hear yourself? Yes, when you see Fritzie's wife, it's like
Speaker 1: watching a Kevin James CBS sitcom. You could fill in
Speaker 1: the blank on the rest of it. Every one of
Speaker 1: those CBS sitcoms, Leah Remedy is hanging out with the
Speaker 1: ups driver. Yeah it is confused. Yes, it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to crazy hot and she's hanging out with the ups
Speaker 1: to suspend a lot of disbelief on some of those
Speaker 1: how did they get there? Yeah, so we gotta pull question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the wide receiver. Yeah, well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna start with the wide receiver. You could tide one
Speaker 1: for four years. I have a front runner. That's that's
Speaker 1: a lot of why receivers. Dude, Yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: front rower. I could save it. No, no, you can
Speaker 1: tell me for we go to break because of maybe
Speaker 1: it's just the hype, but I'm in on the DK
Speaker 1: Metcalf training young. I feel like that clip of him
Speaker 1: chasing down Buddha Baker is everywhere. He's that's the hot
Speaker 1: new wide receiver here, and I think because of that,
Speaker 1: and because of how young he is, you know, the
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf's going to get a lot of oats and
Speaker 1: rightfully so, and he might win it just because there's
Speaker 1: newness to that. Davante Adams is a great wide receiver,
Speaker 1: but wide receivers in Green Bay get overshadowed by Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: Like does do the quarterbacks make them better than what
Speaker 1: they really are? In Green Bay? Did Brett Farve make
Speaker 1: them better than what they really were? Does Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: make you better than what you really are? And we're
Speaker 1: always going to fall back with praise on those quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: then we are probably with those wide receivers. If Sterling
Speaker 1: Sharp doesn't get injured, he's a Hall of Famer. But
Speaker 1: Donald Driver, Antonio Freeman, you know, Randall Cobb, like you're
Speaker 1: just they're good receivers. But Davante Adams, it feels like
Speaker 1: it is a little more special. Yes, but none of
Speaker 1: them are first round receivers. I think that label of
Speaker 1: being a second or third rounder sticks with those guys,
Speaker 1: even Adams, because he wasn't a first rounder, So we
Speaker 1: don't we Oh, he wasn't a first rounder, he can't
Speaker 1: be that good, which he is. So if I was
Speaker 1: going to take somebody for the next five years, all right,
Speaker 1: I don't give that thought. I'll have an answer here
Speaker 1: coming up. Yeah, And then I got to ask Brent
Speaker 1: Musburger what was up here with Vegas with the seven
Speaker 1: point spread. I'm just curious because when when the Niners
Speaker 1: took the field and you looked at it, it it looked
Speaker 1: like you had a junior college football team, like maybe
Speaker 1: not even a major college football team. We'll take a break.
Speaker 1: Phone calls are always welcome. We'll settle on our poll
Speaker 1: question here. I'm curious if anybody suffered a bad beat
Speaker 1: last night because there was a touchdown with four seconds
Speaker 1: to go. That's where you watch and you you know,
Speaker 1: you feel like you got that under. I got the under.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I probably shut off the TV and wake
Speaker 1: up in a bed full of money, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you look and like I've done that before,
Speaker 1: where you wake up at like two in the morning,
Speaker 1: and then because you didn't stay up for the whole game,
Speaker 1: and you go, oh my god, that's a bad beat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why I think betting the over, you're grinding the
Speaker 1: entire game. But once it's over, it can't go back under.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing you can. You could be sitting
Speaker 1: there in the fourth part of thinking I got the under,
Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna oh no, oh no, oh no no,
Speaker 1: why would he score there? Once you get the over,
Speaker 1: that's it. I would probably, if I was betting, would
Speaker 1: bet over unders more than I would the point spread.
Speaker 1: Oh that's I know. But I did point spreads forever
Speaker 1: and the over under. You root for both teams. I'm
Speaker 1: a weather guy. With over unders, I will look at
Speaker 1: it in all seriousness. If you can, you can beat
Speaker 1: Vegas a little bit if you get weather, look at
Speaker 1: weather a little bit. You don't think Vegas looks at
Speaker 1: they do. But I'm telling you you can anticipate a
Speaker 1: little bit. If you would have said, I don't know
Speaker 1: what the over under was with raiders in Browns. But
Speaker 1: when my nephew who lives in Cleveland, and he was
Speaker 1: talking about how windy it was and how bad the
Speaker 1: weather was. That's when I would have gone, what's the
Speaker 1: number here? Just curiosity, not betting. All right, you're right,
Speaker 1: Vegas does watch the weather, but if you're a local,
Speaker 1: you may hear about five days from now we have
Speaker 1: something possibly coming. Yeah, that's what I would I would
Speaker 1: have like, Buffalo is playing Seattle in Buffalo this week
Speaker 1: and it's supposed to be sixty and sunny. Now, if
Speaker 1: it had been different, then maybe we would look at
Speaker 1: that game and the result, the end result differently. Yeah, mclovin,
Speaker 1: is there any doubt that's going to come down to
Speaker 1: a Russell Wilson drive in the fourth quarter of that game?
Speaker 1: It's so set up for and I was wondering who
Speaker 1: needs the game more? Because Seattle's got games coming up
Speaker 1: with the Rams and the Cardinals and they're they're playing
Speaker 1: for the number one seed. You know, Buffalo is not
Speaker 1: going to be the number one seed, but you know,
Speaker 1: and they don't have to be great to win that division.
Speaker 1: Seattle has it. It feels like there's different potential expectations
Speaker 1: with them to be the best team in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Buffalo is just trying to win that division, but they're not.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're close to be in better than
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh or certainly not better than Kansas City, maybe not
Speaker 1: better than the Ravens. Yeah, the club. What about national
Speaker 1: reputation wires? Not that they care, but I feel like
Speaker 1: the Bills need a big win to get back in
Speaker 1: everybody's good graces because they were hot early. Even if
Speaker 1: they do get a win, it feels like we're still
Speaker 1: the jury's out on them because we saw them in
Speaker 1: National on National TV a couple of games and they
Speaker 1: didn't look good at all. And if they do win
Speaker 1: this game, it's not on National TV. This isn't a
Speaker 1: standalone game. I don't think. Is this a one o'clock
Speaker 1: game in Buffalo? Probably, so check on that. Mclovin. Thanks
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Speaker 1: we settled on a poll question. You could sign one
Speaker 1: wide receiver to a four year contract. Who would it be?
Speaker 1: Jandre Hopkinstavante Adams, Julio Jones, Michael Thomas, DK Metcalf, Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior, the third, Mike Evans and Tyreek Hill? How
Speaker 1: old is Tyreek Hill? See? Twenty five makes me a
Speaker 1: little nervous off the field, he's twenty six years of age.
Speaker 1: All right, go round the room. You got to pick
Speaker 1: your wide receiver the next four years, mclovin. I'll start
Speaker 1: with you, easiest choice, DK back, all right, seton O'Connor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is putting on quite a show already. We
Speaker 1: haven't even seen a real full season of DK Metcalf
Speaker 1: being great. Yes, point, oh man, I'm gonna say DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: more consistency, more explosive. DeAndre Hopkins twenty nine, I haven't
Speaker 1: been twenty eight. Twenty okay, twenty eight, next four years,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins Todd. I'm just seeing him without a shirt
Speaker 1: before I even watching how a football? Dk metcalps. That's
Speaker 1: not usually why you would give somebody a four year deal.
Speaker 1: Put it over to top. Hey can I see you
Speaker 1: without your shirt? On the top three reason? Though? For
Speaker 1: shut that was my one two. It was the shirt thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: before I give you the four year contract, can you
Speaker 1: take up your shirt? I you're not getting the backside
Speaker 1: of their career for most of these guys, you're getting
Speaker 1: the meat the prime, like Kevin Costner. If I look
Speaker 1: at this from all different angles, like DK metcalf is
Speaker 1: somebody I can market and that factors in as well.
Speaker 1: You got Russell Wilson, who's in the prime of his career.
Speaker 1: If I how long is okay, let me run down.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the reason why I'm picking who I'm picking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mcle I'm just curious. You have to say, today, when
Speaker 1: is the cliff where wide receivers fall off? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess thirty two or thirty three. I would have
Speaker 1: said maybe thirty thirty one, Okay. DeAndre Hopkins, I don't
Speaker 1: know how great Kyler Murray can be throwing. Hopkins is
Speaker 1: twenty eight, so I got four more years with him.
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, I don't know how long Aaron Rodgers. Is
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers going to be there two more years? And
Speaker 1: then I don't know about Jordan Love So I gotta
Speaker 1: factor that in. Julio Jones, is he gonna be with
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan next year, Michael Thomas, Drew Brees is going
Speaker 1: to retire now, Taysom Hill, Jameis Winston, Yeah, pol let's
Speaker 1: I removed the quarterback and these are just like it's
Speaker 1: like a fantasy draft. All these receivers are available and
Speaker 1: you've got a four year, eighty million dollars. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I got a factor in the quarterback because then that's
Speaker 1: gonna their production is based upon that. DK Metcalf has
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson junior, the third in his prime. Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: won't be on the Browns probably next year even if
Speaker 1: he is. Is Baker Mayfield there, Mike Evans, Tom's gonna
Speaker 1: play one more year probably, and then Tyree Hill. As
Speaker 1: much as I'm not a fan of Tyree Hill, he
Speaker 1: is a fascinating player, and I've got him with Mahomes,
Speaker 1: I would do DK Metcalf just because of his age
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson playing as well as he is. I
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be together for four years. I don't
Speaker 1: know about Evans and Brady Odell in his situation. Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas with Drew Brees, Julio with Matt Ryan, DeVante Adams,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe two more years with Aaron Rodgers and DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: Comes down to is Kyler Murray a consistent in the
Speaker 1: pocket and I don't know if he is. I think
Speaker 1: he's an explosive, great, exciting quarterback. But if I'm looking
Speaker 1: for just production, I'd probably go DK Metcalf. Believe it
Speaker 1: or not. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine
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Speaker 1: I was growing up, I wanted to do what Brent
Speaker 1: Musburger did on the CBS pregame show. He was the
Speaker 1: king and he's still doing it. The Raiders play by
Speaker 1: playboys lead broadcaster and Brent joining us now, Good morning, Brent,
Speaker 1: how are you? Good morning, Danny. Good to be talking
Speaker 1: to your lad. Here we are midway point infl Raiders.
Speaker 1: Raiders still alive, Still alive in that wildcard battle. Don't
Speaker 1: think they'll run down the Chiefs, but hey, you've moved
Speaker 1: up in class. Mercedes Ben's a sponsor. That's a big time.
Speaker 1: That's time, My man how's this going over with Las Vegas?
Speaker 1: The Raiders get fined over a million dollars and lost
Speaker 1: a draft pick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, the COVID
Speaker 1: restrictions are the COVID restrictions, and the league does what
Speaker 1: the league does. I'm going to be perfectly honest. I
Speaker 1: am not permitted inside the facility or out to practice,
Speaker 1: and I understand it, and I have stayed away with
Speaker 1: I felt some sympathy for my buddy John Gruden when
Speaker 1: he was fined earlier this year a DAN one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand because the masks kept coming down in the night
Speaker 1: game against the New Orleans Saints. Here, I'm really not
Speaker 1: up to speed with all the details about the situation
Speaker 1: regarding Trent Brown. Obviously, he was not wearing the monitor
Speaker 1: around his wrist and that led to exposure to some
Speaker 1: different players. And then he went shoe shopping with one
Speaker 1: of our safety is allegedly shoe shopping. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a main attraction here in Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: shoe shopping. But anywa, rate, we lost Abram for a game.
Speaker 1: Just to let people know, Brenda Is mentioned shoe shopping.
Speaker 1: That is, uh, women dancing, exotic dance, adult entertainment, right, Brent, Exactly, okay, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's okay. I like what I'm seeing with the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I think they're a playoff team. And also I was
Speaker 1: looking at the numbers with Derek Carr. His completion percent
Speaker 1: his quarterbacking, quarterback rating, and completion percentage has increased every
Speaker 1: season since twenty seventeen. He's up to seventy one percent completion.
Speaker 1: His quarterback rating is one ten. Those are impressive numbers. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, his interception percentage is the fifth lowest among
Speaker 1: qualifiers in NFL history, in history. So what is it?
Speaker 1: You know, what are the Raiders missing this year? Defense?
Speaker 1: Defense and defense? They cannot they now last week they
Speaker 1: use the weather to their advantage and they were able
Speaker 1: to shut down Baker Mayfield. But you and I know
Speaker 1: that when you have a fierce wind like they faced
Speaker 1: up in Cleveland, gustine upwards of thirty five miles an hour,
Speaker 1: it was much easier to shut a quarterback down because
Speaker 1: accuracy was so difficult. Derek Carr and John Gruten have
Speaker 1: been on the same page now for some time. There
Speaker 1: was an over as there always is when a team
Speaker 1: loses and doesn't perform well. The media, in particular jumps
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, and quarterbacks understand that around the league,
Speaker 1: but it was never Derek Carr's fault when they struggled.
Speaker 1: And John's system is difficult, especially when it comes to terminology.
Speaker 1: The number plays he calls a very insistent. He has
Speaker 1: pushed Dan. He has pushed Derek car to run more.
Speaker 1: I think he ran for a couple of first downs
Speaker 1: against Cleveland to the week before. Quarterbacks in the NFL,
Speaker 1: when things break down and they see it they can
Speaker 1: move the sticks for a first down, they have to
Speaker 1: take off. Those are the most successful quarterbacks and Derek
Speaker 1: Carr has been doing that. He's on the same page
Speaker 1: with John with the West Coast offense and now with
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs and Ruggs gaining more and more experience as
Speaker 1: speeds are out of Alabama, they'll be able to get
Speaker 1: downfield a little more often. When you're watched Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: last night, you watch the King of receivers. Outside the numbers. Now,
Speaker 1: traditionally those are the most difficult throws for a quarterback
Speaker 1: in the end at why I say outside the numbers,
Speaker 1: if you're moving down and you get close to the sideline.
Speaker 1: We call that outside the numbers. Nobody is better than
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, as he demonstrated again last night, and I
Speaker 1: would assume as time goes forward, as he works on
Speaker 1: route running of Ruggs will be very, very lethal outside
Speaker 1: the numbers because you'll beat You'll beat the defensive backs
Speaker 1: by a step and a half. He's got elite speed.
Speaker 1: So things are looking up offensively, but it is the
Speaker 1: defense and we'll see what they're young impressive rookie of
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Justin Herbert, is able to do against the
Speaker 1: Raiders this week. I think this is a very tricky
Speaker 1: game for the Raiders. The Chargers have to be the
Speaker 1: Chargers have perfected the art of blowing big leaves. They've
Speaker 1: got to be an angry football team this week. I
Speaker 1: was also curious about this. Vegas had the Packers as
Speaker 1: a six and a half point favorite last night, and
Speaker 1: I kept thinking, what am I missing here? Because San
Speaker 1: Francisco's decimated Packers get their starting running back back, there's
Speaker 1: no real home field advantage, and you got Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and DeVante Adams, and I kept thinking there's something up here,
Speaker 1: and I thought it would be like a ten and
Speaker 1: a half eleven eleven and a half point spread there.
Speaker 1: So you get people to think because if there was
Speaker 1: going to be a blowout, it was going to be
Speaker 1: Green be blowing out the Niners, and you might just
Speaker 1: take the money or the line there the points with
Speaker 1: San Francisco. So what was Vegas missing last night on
Speaker 1: this game? Now, Vegas wasn't missing anything. They knew what
Speaker 1: the Packer defense had done the previous week against Alvin Cook,
Speaker 1: and they know what Kyle Shanahan lives to do is
Speaker 1: run a football. McKennon was back. He missed last year
Speaker 1: with an injury. He's a solid running back. They expected
Speaker 1: they expected the forty nine ers to come running. You
Speaker 1: have to be careful when you move a line up
Speaker 1: to ten points because two things happen. Number One, those
Speaker 1: who just bet that opening number were rotates too will
Speaker 1: automatically take the ten ten and a half. And then
Speaker 1: those of us who liked to tease ie me, we
Speaker 1: would immediately go up to sixteen and include that in
Speaker 1: our teaser with the forty nine ers. So there's there's
Speaker 1: a couple of things that bookmakers have to look at.
Speaker 1: And there was money bet on San Francisco even even
Speaker 1: with that particular opening line. Actually, how much respect they
Speaker 1: have for for coach Shanahan. What's the worst bet you
Speaker 1: ever made? Last week the New York Jets taking the
Speaker 1: points against the Kansas City Chiefs. I always, I always
Speaker 1: remember my worst most recent bet. If you know what
Speaker 1: I made, Dad? How about a great one? Well? Last
Speaker 1: night I teased the Packers down to one, and I
Speaker 1: tease the over under number up to fifty four and
Speaker 1: a half and went to the under. That was a
Speaker 1: good bet because the regular over under went down with
Speaker 1: that last touchdown when they put it up over the
Speaker 1: fifty mark. That was a huge money mover last night
Speaker 1: in the Packers forty nine Ers game, I lost a
Speaker 1: game the Packers and the Bears and Chester Markle. All
Speaker 1: he had to do was kick a field goal. I
Speaker 1: cover and he hicks it, it's blocked, He gets it
Speaker 1: and he runs it in for a touchdown. That was
Speaker 1: my bad beat. Brent, Listen, I remember that I knew
Speaker 1: where you were aheaded as soon as you bet Chester Marco.
Speaker 1: Were you betting when you were doing the pregame show? No,
Speaker 1: I was actually being educated by Jimmy the Greek Um.
Speaker 1: You know. I suppose occasionally I would I would come
Speaker 1: here when we weren't covering the Super Bowl and I
Speaker 1: would come out and make a bet. But but basically
Speaker 1: I didn't. I was a total innocent about points bread
Speaker 1: that in growing up as a kid in Montana. Did
Speaker 1: My education came later and it was generally Jimmy the
Speaker 1: Greek and many many of us know that when the
Speaker 1: Greek made a move the other way that you know,
Speaker 1: it's amazing how far we've come though with betting, with
Speaker 1: all the sports, in particular the NFL. Where do you
Speaker 1: think we're going to be in five years when it
Speaker 1: comes to betting in the NFL? And well, states states
Speaker 1: are going to continue to be added to those who
Speaker 1: have it legalized. I think in this recent election, I
Speaker 1: think I saw that three more states legalized that, including
Speaker 1: Maryland and other Colorados out for speed. I think we'll
Speaker 1: continue to grow. But I you know, I warn everybody,
Speaker 1: and I do this all the time. If you think
Speaker 1: you're going to walk in and you're going to immediately
Speaker 1: make a lot of money, think otherwise. Okay, those numbers
Speaker 1: are very very difficult to beat on a regular basis. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're fifty dollars better, like I am occasionally up
Speaker 1: to one hundred for recreation. I think that's fine. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem. Last night it actually enhanced
Speaker 1: I'd had enough of the election coverage and so I
Speaker 1: was able to watch a football game with a little
Speaker 1: added interest. But I just danny, Especially for youngsters, I
Speaker 1: keep stressing, Yes, I think it's part of it. We're
Speaker 1: going to have it, but be careful. There are very
Speaker 1: very few people who can make big money trying to
Speaker 1: beat those numbers week in and week out. So just
Speaker 1: don't think. Don't think that you're gonna Oh I can
Speaker 1: do that. I can. No, you can't. Okay, that's my alert.
Speaker 1: But it's going to be with us. It's part of
Speaker 1: the NFL. It helped the NFL become what it is today.
Speaker 1: People enjoy it, whether it's just picking winners or going
Speaker 1: against the spread or over unders and now all these
Speaker 1: propositions that are out there. Everybody can but you don't
Speaker 1: want to get in over your head. Just please please don't.
Speaker 1: I keep trying to stress that because I'm someone who
Speaker 1: really enjoys it, who thought it should be legal lives,
Speaker 1: and now that we have it, especially youngsters, have to
Speaker 1: pay attention. This is not, under any circumstance an easy
Speaker 1: way to get rich. Let me let me just tell
Speaker 1: you that right now. I'm also wondering, once we get
Speaker 1: back to whatever normally is where fans can go to
Speaker 1: the stands, could you see an actual betting parlor in
Speaker 1: stadiums that you know, you have to become a member
Speaker 1: to get in, you have to have cash to bet
Speaker 1: or debit cards, and that you could bet. You know,
Speaker 1: you almost like you have in the Premier League, but
Speaker 1: have a sports book at a stadium. But there's no question.
Speaker 1: Now it's not day after tomorrow that this is going
Speaker 1: to come, but there's no there's no question it is
Speaker 1: going to happen because when you look around the league,
Speaker 1: I believe it was the Indianapolis Colts who signed up
Speaker 1: a casino. First of all, they're the first team to
Speaker 1: align themselves with it, and that's the initial move. And
Speaker 1: then as as time goes on, the league and the
Speaker 1: league really if you look around, it's amazing how quickly
Speaker 1: the league has accepted it. I mean, there are sponsors
Speaker 1: on broadcasts. William Hill I see them up all the time.
Speaker 1: They were going to be bought in the United States
Speaker 1: by Caesar's. Caesar's going to rebrand it. Caesar's a big
Speaker 1: story in Las Vegas here this morning. But absolutely like
Speaker 1: the Premier League down in Australia, they've got betting kiosks
Speaker 1: that you go into down there to better Australian rules
Speaker 1: football as a game was unfolded. That is to come,
Speaker 1: but I don't. It's not day after tomorrow. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's going to take years, if not decades before
Speaker 1: we get to that, but we're headed in that direction.
Speaker 1: What's the first game you called? Oh, any first game
Speaker 1: I called would would have been a Chicago Bear preseason game.
Speaker 1: I was the spotter Lindsay Nelson. George Hallis really like
Speaker 1: Lindsey Nelson because Lindsay did with the review of the
Speaker 1: Notre Dame games on television early Paul Sunday Morning, okay
Speaker 1: with Paul and George Hallis was very fond of Lindsay.
Speaker 1: So Lindsay did Chicago Bear preseason games. I became Lindsay
Speaker 1: spotter and he was such a such a nice man.
Speaker 1: I was working locally in Chicago, and then Lindsay couldn't
Speaker 1: do it any longer, probably because of his New York
Speaker 1: Mets responsibilities. I don't quite remember the circumstance. And so
Speaker 1: George Connor, the old great linebacker, a great defensive player,
Speaker 1: he was the analyst, and they asked me to do
Speaker 1: the play by player, and I don't, I really don't.
Speaker 1: We used to play, believe it or not, the Packers
Speaker 1: every preseason, so I and they would play in Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: like Green Bay or Chicago, sort of a neutral site,
Speaker 1: the Old County Stadium. So that was probably my first
Speaker 1: play by player that I ever did. Did you have
Speaker 1: any interaction with Lombardi a lot? As a newspaperman of
Speaker 1: the sixties, I was around Vince a lot and when
Speaker 1: I first met him, I was scared to death of him.
Speaker 1: I was a tiptoe when I go in after a game.
Speaker 1: Normally he was on the winning side. What I found
Speaker 1: with Lombardy it was very strange. I'm not sure I've
Speaker 1: ever found this with a coach. After a win, he
Speaker 1: was more cantankerous than after a loss. Now, granted didn't
Speaker 1: lose many games, but he was the most gracious loser
Speaker 1: that I ever had. The interview after a game. I
Speaker 1: remember in nineteen sixty three, Paul Horning had been suspended
Speaker 1: for gambling by Commissioner Roselle, and the Bears were able
Speaker 1: to win the conference and go on to win the
Speaker 1: NFL Championship in Chicago against the New York Giants. And
Speaker 1: so we handled the Packers during that season, and I
Speaker 1: probably would not have if Horney had been playing, to
Speaker 1: tell you the truth. But any rate, no one was
Speaker 1: ever nicer. And when you went to Green Bay on
Speaker 1: Friday night, Friday night, he would he would have a
Speaker 1: no one was Saturday night, actually it was Saturday night.
Speaker 1: He would, especially the New York writers. He was very
Speaker 1: friendly with Red Smith and some of the others because
Speaker 1: he'd been a long time assistant coach with the Giants.
Speaker 1: But he always had a nice cocktail party over at
Speaker 1: his house, very modest house, and we would all get
Speaker 1: together and have a cold beer and talk. And he
Speaker 1: didn't talk about the game, and he always said, there's
Speaker 1: nothing going to do about it now the game planners
Speaker 1: and would go see what it is. I always remember
Speaker 1: my time with NSIL party. I had enormous respect for him.
Speaker 1: Covered the Super Bowl one and he felt so much
Speaker 1: pressure for the NFL to win that game and beat
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. He took the Chiefs up to
Speaker 1: Santa Barbara and basically locked them away from us. Hanks
Speaker 1: Graham and the Chiefs went in a long beach and
Speaker 1: they were wide open. Every day you go watch practice,
Speaker 1: go talk to coach Stram, a completely different build up
Speaker 1: and coach coach on Barty later told me that he
Speaker 1: felt that the weight of the entire NFL was on
Speaker 1: his shoulders to win that game, And of course they did,
Speaker 1: and dramatic fashion and storyboat fashion, with Max McGee having
Speaker 1: stayed out basically half the night not thinking that he
Speaker 1: was going to play, and then because of an injury
Speaker 1: to the wide receivers, he became bart stars receiving stars. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was around, I was around coach a lot, and
Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed my experience with him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: could understand that, you know, there's a little tiptoeing or
Speaker 1: trepidation when you're around some of these, you know, they
Speaker 1: was that way for me with Tom Landry, It was
Speaker 1: that way for me with Don Shula, with Bob Knight
Speaker 1: for a little while where and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like you have to kind of work your way in
Speaker 1: where I don't know if you prove yourself, but I
Speaker 1: just kept showing up and if you keep asking questions,
Speaker 1: and you know, I eventually became very good friends with
Speaker 1: Don Shula coach Landry I did not I did not
Speaker 1: know him that well. Chuck Nole was a guy who
Speaker 1: intimidated me as well. But you just kind of hang
Speaker 1: in there and hold on for dear life. Sometimes exactly
Speaker 1: exactly I did that with Woody Hayes also, Actually it
Speaker 1: was not until Woody was replaced as head coach of
Speaker 1: Ohio State. RAA. Parseigan became one of my analysts, and
Speaker 1: Er and Woody were were dear friends and rivals, and
Speaker 1: we would going to Woody's office after he'd been let go.
Speaker 1: We would see him every time we went to Columbus,
Speaker 1: and he became, you know, just a cuddly old grandfatherly type.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you, well, I was a newspaperman
Speaker 1: and I would get sent in as a columnist to
Speaker 1: cover a big Ohio State game. And you were around Woody,
Speaker 1: you were really careful around him at the time. Boshimbechler
Speaker 1: intimidated me a little bit, and like you say, you
Speaker 1: just keep going, you keep going, And finally they actually
Speaker 1: become very good friends a bow. I've worked games with
Speaker 1: him actually in the in the booth. So but but
Speaker 1: you just hang in, like you said, and that is
Speaker 1: the way to approach it. And it was it was
Speaker 1: different back in that day. I mean it was very,
Speaker 1: very different. When I covered baseball in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: would actually run with some of the players after games.
Speaker 1: But we under no circumstance when we write about going
Speaker 1: out and having a beer after a game or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But it's it's entirely different now. The media
Speaker 1: is not as close to the players, and of course
Speaker 1: the athletes have to be so careful when they go
Speaker 1: out because everybody's got a cell phone, which makes everybody
Speaker 1: a reporter. And times have changed. Notre Dame plus five,
Speaker 1: Notre Dame getting five. Yeah, not enough, not enough for me,
Speaker 1: I pass. I think that's that's a game that has
Speaker 1: to be at around to seven or eight level. Before
Speaker 1: I think about Clemson. Uh, you know, there's three teams
Speaker 1: that you're looking at right now, Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson.
Speaker 1: They appear to me to be headed for the playoffs
Speaker 1: and then they can choose whoever they want to be
Speaker 1: the fourth team. But I think those three I mentioned
Speaker 1: Dan are probably at an elite level. It's great to
Speaker 1: talk to you as always, and thanks thanks for sharing
Speaker 1: and have on this weekend. Thanks danct you soon all right.
Speaker 1: That's Brent Musburg, Hall of Famer radio play by play
Speaker 1: voice with the Raiders and managing editor for a Vision.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be
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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Ryan joining
Speaker 1: us from our Honolulu affiliate. Ryan. Thanks for staying with
Speaker 1: us in the final hour. You're welcome. Dan. I'm an amateur.
Speaker 1: I can handle it, Okay. So I've got a couple
Speaker 1: of comments on pod and then I've got a couple
Speaker 1: of mock horse lines to finish off with. Okay. Pod
Speaker 1: one the inaugurable Oh man, I missed that up inaugural
Speaker 1: Golden PERNY Awards, so technically he's the most ordered booker
Speaker 1: in the BIS. Yes, yes he did win. Now, you
Speaker 1: guys talked about complimenting. Now, you gotta compliment your wife
Speaker 1: because I tell her she's pretty every day. You don't
Speaker 1: have to lie when it's the truth. Now, I was
Speaker 1: blessed to meet with Todd and his family in Hawaii
Speaker 1: when he came. And he has a beautiful family and
Speaker 1: they were amazing last year. And see over complimenting his
Speaker 1: good Todd. Didn't that feel good? Did that make you
Speaker 1: feel good? It did make me feel very good, very
Speaker 1: warm feeling. And I'll do a hard out here, Mark
Speaker 1: horse Lines Stallion of the day, first time for a
Speaker 1: long time, and this one for Poli fol Liage. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a trot off Dan.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you Ryan. That's Ryan and Honolulu. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that you had met with Ryan. I went
Speaker 1: to a University of Hanolu Hawaii basketball game while we
Speaker 1: were on vacation, and you met Ryan, and Ryan was
Speaker 1: there and if you just made to his lovely wife
Speaker 1: and we did a little bit in like between the
Speaker 1: seats there did like a little interview with me. It
Speaker 1: was very nice. I can't imagine you go to Hawaii
Speaker 1: with your wife and you say, you know what, let's
Speaker 1: don't go to the beach. Let's go inside and watch
Speaker 1: a basketball game. The girls weren't as excited as my
Speaker 1: son and I were, but like it was like one
Speaker 1: of those classic things with like with other schools. It
Speaker 1: wasn't just like the University of Hawaiian. There were like
Speaker 1: teams from around the country doing one of those like
Speaker 1: the Maui Classic. Okay, yeah, I think that made it
Speaker 1: that much more excited for my wife and daughter. But
Speaker 1: we got through it all right. Well, that's that's Ryan,
Speaker 1: Ryan and Hallolulu. Ryan, the Fritzie of callers, the Golden Booker.
Speaker 1: You know. By the way, Ryan bringing up something we
Speaker 1: mentioned two hours ago, which doesn't always translate to the
Speaker 1: audience listening. If Todd had done that, looks like Ryan
Speaker 1: just did, he would have been soaken too. Yes, Todd,
Speaker 1: no one even knows what they're talking about, right, Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: those two hours ago, Todd. Yeah, no one even knows
Speaker 1: what that means. Yeah, but Yan, Ryan, No one even
Speaker 1: knows what that means. Yan. I don't know Ryan. I
Speaker 1: didn't meet him in a basketball game, so I can't say, Ryan,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You've got to be topical right down,
Speaker 1: not something happened two hours ago, You're better than that.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be
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Speaker 1: Chris Simms every morning Monday through Friday, preceding our show,
Speaker 1: and Mike kind enough to join us. What did the
Speaker 1: Raiders do wrong and did it warrant that kind of punishment? Well, Dan,
Speaker 1: it all flows from the Trent Brown positive test that
Speaker 1: was followed by Trent Brown not wearing a content tag
Speaker 1: tracing device, which is one of the key mechanisms for
Speaker 1: determining who was exposed to a player who eventually test positive.
Speaker 1: That was part of it, and it was an accumulation
Speaker 1: of the various things we've seen. The Raiders punished four
Speaker 1: from John Gruden not wearing a mask that was three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars in total fines, an unauthorized
Speaker 1: person in the locker room that was another fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars fine. The event where several players were present in
Speaker 1: a confined space with too many people and no masks
Speaker 1: in sight. Players were fined for that. So this is
Speaker 1: that system of progressive discipline the NFL uses. When the
Speaker 1: first effort doesn't take, they hit you a little harder
Speaker 1: than next time, and they'll keep hitting you harder and harder.
Speaker 1: So this time six hundred and fifty thousand dollars in fines,
Speaker 1: a sixth round draft pick goes away, and if they
Speaker 1: don't straighten up, there will be more punishments and they
Speaker 1: will be more severe, and the draft pick usually is
Speaker 1: what gets a team's attention. They don't like giving up
Speaker 1: those unscratched lottery tickets that can be come anything. They
Speaker 1: don't want to have those stripped away from them. I
Speaker 1: don't know if his comments matched the headline, and it
Speaker 1: was fair to Davante Adams. He was asked basically, are
Speaker 1: you know are you the best wide receiver in football?
Speaker 1: And he said yes, and then he explained why he
Speaker 1: thought he was. I have no problem with it. It's
Speaker 1: like we criticize the athlete when he doesn't say anything,
Speaker 1: and when he does say we criticize him for saying
Speaker 1: something Davante Adams, I don't know, is he the best receiver?
Speaker 1: If I Okay, here's the question we had earlier, Mike,
Speaker 1: you can have any receiver, any receiver for the next
Speaker 1: four years. The cost is the same. Who would you take?
Speaker 1: He came Metcalf, without question, Dk Metcalf. That's who won
Speaker 1: the full Yeah, yeah, without question. But I don't have
Speaker 1: a problem with Davanta Adams saying he thinks he's the
Speaker 1: best receiver, because you need to believe that in order
Speaker 1: to put that uniform on, in order to cross that
Speaker 1: thick white stripe and go onto the field and accept
Speaker 1: the various physical risks that you're taking every time you play,
Speaker 1: and to play at the highest possible level, you need
Speaker 1: to have confidence that borders on delusion and sometimes crosses
Speaker 1: over into delusion. I'm sure there are plenty of receivers
Speaker 1: not as good as Davantae Adams or DK Metcalf that
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, I think I'm the best. You have
Speaker 1: to think you're the best. And I think one of
Speaker 1: the key ingredients Dan for the best receivers that we
Speaker 1: see now is not being a first round draft pick.
Speaker 1: Because not being a first round draft pick lights a
Speaker 1: fire under these guys. Davantae Adams was a second round pick,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, who was motivated like anyone else at the position.
Speaker 1: Second round draft pick saw receivers that he looks at
Speaker 1: and says, I'm better than them go before him. Dcame
Speaker 1: Metcalf said he yesterday it was a blessing in disguise
Speaker 1: that he wasn't a first round pick because it caused
Speaker 1: him to not take for granted the opportunity in Seattle,
Speaker 1: bust his ass and be who he is now. Should
Speaker 1: that game have been played last night, Well, it depends
Speaker 1: on which team you ask. Well, the Packers getting Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones back certainly helped, but right I just it felt
Speaker 1: it was a bad look for the NFL. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: here's the problem. When the NFL has an opportunity to
Speaker 1: move forward with a game, it is going to move
Speaker 1: forward with the game because if you bump this game
Speaker 1: to Sunday, Monday or Tuesday in order to allow the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers to get back Trent Williams, who was
Speaker 1: removed from the game because he possibly was in sufficiently
Speaker 1: close contact with Kendrick Bourne to end up getting COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen or Brandon I first round draft pick receiver who's
Speaker 1: done a great job for them. If you get those
Speaker 1: guys back, okay, fine, But the problem is between now
Speaker 1: and Sunday or Monday or Tuesday, the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: could find out that there are other problems and they
Speaker 1: could get to a point where you can't play that game.
Speaker 1: Then what do you do? Then that becomes the first
Speaker 1: game of the eighteenth week of the season that we
Speaker 1: believe is inevitable, but they want to resist it as
Speaker 1: long as they can. And so we saw this for
Speaker 1: the first time Dan with the Buccaneers Raiders game. They
Speaker 1: went forward even though the Raiders had their starting offensive
Speaker 1: line unavailable until Saturday or Sunday morning, I think it
Speaker 1: was Saturday morning. They weren't prepared and they got blown out.
Speaker 1: But the NFL got to play the game. The NFL
Speaker 1: got to cash the check from the networks. I think
Speaker 1: that's a big factor in all of this. Even though
Speaker 1: you know you don't want to make it all about money,
Speaker 1: they want to get these games in because they want
Speaker 1: their money. And they got their money last night for
Speaker 1: having the Packers forty nine Ers game on Fox. And
Speaker 1: if you would delayed that game. There's no guarantee that
Speaker 1: you're going to get that game in. Is that how
Speaker 1: it works that NBC we'll write a check weekly to
Speaker 1: the NFL. No, No, I'm okay. I was thinking, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm making it as simple as possible
Speaker 1: and as linear as possible. And it's probably not that
Speaker 1: way right if games are ultimately lost at a time
Speaker 1: when there are broader negotiations happening with all the networks.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a rebate per se that
Speaker 1: would go back to the networks. But you avoid that
Speaker 1: conversation entirely if you're the NFL, if you deliver all
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty six games, which do they have
Speaker 1: a strong motivation to do? I mentioned this yesterday. There
Speaker 1: are two things I know that are true in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I know that the Kansas City Chiefs are the best
Speaker 1: team right now, and I know that the Jets are
Speaker 1: the worst team in the NFL. I don't know much
Speaker 1: in between. Mike, do you have any definitives where you say,
Speaker 1: absolutely positively I know this. No, it's great, And anytime
Speaker 1: you try to do that, that's when you find out
Speaker 1: that you know nothing, and I will agree that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are on paper the best team, but I don't
Speaker 1: know what would happen if you put the Chiefs on
Speaker 1: the same field as the Steelers right now. Because the
Speaker 1: Steelers have something and Dan. I think it was born
Speaker 1: in last year's adversity and the way they dealt with
Speaker 1: not having Ben Roethlisberger and to have a couple of
Speaker 1: what team did you grow up a fan of? No No.
Speaker 1: I grew up sixty miles from Pittsburgh, but I had
Speaker 1: to be different. I had to be a contrarian, so
Speaker 1: I didn't like the Steelers. I wish I had. It
Speaker 1: would have been great seventies for me for Super Bowl trophies.
Speaker 1: But I think that I've been around Pittsburgh my entire life.
Speaker 1: I know how this team works, and I think what
Speaker 1: they went through last year planted the seeds for this
Speaker 1: year because they have been back, and they fight, and
Speaker 1: they scratched and they claw. I watched that Raven Steelers
Speaker 1: game back on Monday. I don't know how the hell
Speaker 1: the Steelers won, but you know what, throw out all
Speaker 1: the stats. Only one matters points scored points aloud, and
Speaker 1: they keep finding a way to do it. So I
Speaker 1: feel like if they played the Chiefs right now, they'd
Speaker 1: find a way to outscore the Chiefs, even if the
Speaker 1: Chiefs would be going up and down the field all
Speaker 1: day long with Patrick maybe. Yeah. I came into this
Speaker 1: season I said the Steelers are the most fascinating team
Speaker 1: to me because I thought they had everything they He
Speaker 1: just needed Ben to be healthy, and Ben has stayed healthy,
Speaker 1: and here they are undefeated. You're a good friend, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: In the last two and a half years, seventy five touchdowns,
Speaker 1: eight interceptions. Hey, look, I have become a tremendous Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers fan, and I think part of it is hanging
Speaker 1: around Chris Simms every day because he regards Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: as the greatest quarterback of all time over his own
Speaker 1: father Phil. And also I think that he was done
Speaker 1: wrong by the Packers earlier this year, which makes him
Speaker 1: more sympathetic. I don't think they should have drafted a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They should have gotten him help at receiver. And I
Speaker 1: think that makes these last years of his in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: however many there will be more compelling. And it makes
Speaker 1: me want to see him do well. And I think
Speaker 1: he has incredible physical gifts, and he's done more with
Speaker 1: limited talent around him than I think any quarterback has
Speaker 1: in recent memory. So yeah, I think he's tremendous. And
Speaker 1: last night it was great to see what they were
Speaker 1: able to do. Now it's hard to tell against the
Speaker 1: forty Niners B team, but I like what the Packers
Speaker 1: have and I just wish he had more help around
Speaker 1: him because he'd have a better chance to add to
Speaker 1: his legacy. Yeah, and we look at these quarterbacks. You know,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is probably going to end up with one
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Five had one super Bowl. Rodgers may end
Speaker 1: up with just one super Bowl. What does that second
Speaker 1: super Bowl mean? Do you think the perception wise of
Speaker 1: a quarterback? Well, I don't know. Maybe we want to
Speaker 1: ask Jim Plunkett that because he's got two and he's
Speaker 1: never mentioned as a potential Hall of Famer and he's
Speaker 1: got two super Bowl wins that he earned as the
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Raiders. But I think it does start
Speaker 1: to separate you from the pack of greats. You know,
Speaker 1: there's this echelon of quarterbacks and Tom Brady has become
Speaker 1: I think once he got to five, the guy that
Speaker 1: we would admit is the greatest of all time at
Speaker 1: the position. Once he gets to six, I think the
Speaker 1: debate ends. But then you start filling in under that
Speaker 1: and super bowls are part of it. Statistical achievement, longevity
Speaker 1: is part of it. There are different ways that you
Speaker 1: can look at it. Brady was the first one to
Speaker 1: unite championships, longevity and statistical achievement. But yeah, they look
Speaker 1: they all want as many as they can. Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: said before the season, Dan, he wants to win super bowls.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want just one more, he wants two more
Speaker 1: or more than two more. I mean, that's the way
Speaker 1: these guys are wired. It's the Davante Adams thing. They
Speaker 1: all want to be the best every time. They want
Speaker 1: to win every game. They want to win every championship,
Speaker 1: and it's got to torment them if they only have
Speaker 1: one when their otherwise great career ends. The Dolphins situation
Speaker 1: with two, Adam Schefter reported that they basically this a
Speaker 1: ten game trial for him because they have all these
Speaker 1: draft picks, including the Texans, and that they might be
Speaker 1: in the market for a quarterback, which, all right, it
Speaker 1: surprised me, but it was Schefty reporting it. Brian Flores.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins coach comes out and says, you know, we're
Speaker 1: not doing this, not that he would say yes, they
Speaker 1: are doing this, but what do you what do you
Speaker 1: make of this situation with Twa tonga Volo? Is he
Speaker 1: auditioning to keep this job next year? And Dan, look,
Speaker 1: I don't really think we need a report from anyone
Speaker 1: to lead us to the common sensical conclusion that when
Speaker 1: you are holding the Houston Texans first round draft pick
Speaker 1: and they currently are in the top five in a
Speaker 1: field that's going to have Trevor Lawrence and justin fields,
Speaker 1: you need to know what you have. You need to
Speaker 1: know what Tua is. And look, here's the reality. Twa
Speaker 1: tong of Iloa was an ownership pick by the Dolphins
Speaker 1: this year. He wasn't a coaching staff GM. Who's the
Speaker 1: best guy, what's our best option? The owner wants a
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. The Bengals said no, thank you. When the
Speaker 1: Dolphins tried to trade up. I still don't know what
Speaker 1: the Dolphins offered, but the Bengals said no. So Stephen
Speaker 1: Ross wants this franchise quarterback. They picked Tua over Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: May have been a mistake based upon what we've seen
Speaker 1: from Herbert so far. The next ten games will tell us.
Speaker 1: But they have to know what to what has. They
Speaker 1: have to see what TWOA can do because maybe there's
Speaker 1: going to be a Josh Rose and Kyler Murray situation
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins next year. And you only know whether
Speaker 1: or not to pursue that potential franchise quarterback by looking
Speaker 1: at what you have and the guy that you think
Speaker 1: could be your franchise quarterback. And Dan look, there's three
Speaker 1: types of teams in the NFL. Teams that have franchise quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: teams desperately looking for franchise quarterbacks, and teams that have
Speaker 1: a guy that they're not quite sure yet whether he
Speaker 1: is a franchise quarterback. Dolphins are in category number three.
Speaker 1: They need to know whether they're in category one or
Speaker 1: category two before they're on the clock with the Texans pick.
Speaker 1: When April rolls around, I think it's a no brainer
Speaker 1: that this is what they're doing, because you want the
Speaker 1: guy that's going to be your guy for the next
Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty years. Andrews Siciliano, tweeting Mike McCarthy still
Speaker 1: won't name a starting quarterback for Week nine for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If you ran the Cowboys right now, what would you
Speaker 1: do well? I would have signed Al Kaepernick a long
Speaker 1: time ago to be the backup to Dak Prescott, frankly
Speaker 1: instead of Andy Dalton. So if Kaepernick were healthy, he'd
Speaker 1: be playing right now because Prescott's not available. But based
Speaker 1: on what I currently have, you just have to hope
Speaker 1: for the best because it's not like you could sign
Speaker 1: a guy and bring him in right now. Because of
Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen protocols. It's not like you could have
Speaker 1: an emergency option today and bring a guy in. You're
Speaker 1: stuck with Garrett Gilbert or Cooper Rush. You've decided Benda
Speaker 1: Nucci's not the answer, and you just hope for the best.
Speaker 1: And you know, Jerry Jones, I heard your last segment
Speaker 1: talking about what the Cowboys are doing. Jerry Jones has
Speaker 1: a couple of words salad radio interviews every week on
Speaker 1: one O five three the Fan in Dallas, and it's
Speaker 1: a fascinating exercise in let's figure out what Jerry is
Speaker 1: actually saying, and a lot of times you can't. But
Speaker 1: he talked about this concept of possibly tanking, and he
Speaker 1: danced around it. I mean, look, Tanking never happens from
Speaker 1: the perspective of the player or the coach, although sometimes
Speaker 1: the coach is in on it if he's got job security.
Speaker 1: Tanking happens when you decide to see what your third
Speaker 1: string quarterback can do, what your backup defensive back can do,
Speaker 1: what your backup offensive linemen can do, and then it
Speaker 1: just kind of takes its course. And if you're the
Speaker 1: Cowboys right now, and you know it's done, and you
Speaker 1: know you look, it's just done. If you're watching the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: it's done. Yeah, they could still win the division. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: it's done for the Cowboys this year. Once you know
Speaker 1: it's done, you win by losing, You gain in the
Speaker 1: draft order by plummeting in the standings. And the NFL
Speaker 1: never talks about that because they don't want to legitimize it.
Speaker 1: But I think Jerry Jones is smart enough to know
Speaker 1: he's got one of these weird years where the team's
Speaker 1: going belly up. The last time they had a year
Speaker 1: like this, they got Ezekiel Elliott. They may get somebody
Speaker 1: great this year, And wouldn't that be something. If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are in position to decide, do we take Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Do we take Justin Fields or do we pay Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott thirty seven million dollars for one more year in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. If I said you could have Dak
Speaker 1: or Justin Fields, I'd take Dak because we don't know
Speaker 1: what Justin Fields is going to be. We just don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend thirty seven million dollars. Well,
Speaker 1: that's a different issue. You didn't tell me of what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay that I want right Do I want
Speaker 1: the Cowboys situation right now? Given the way they've mismanaged
Speaker 1: it for the last two years and not paid Dak
Speaker 1: the moment that the window opened on a second contract.
Speaker 1: I don't want that situation because here's the thing. Thirty
Speaker 1: seven million is just the starting point. I can't tag
Speaker 1: him in twenty twenty two because he gets a forty
Speaker 1: four percent raise over thirty seven million. That's fifty four
Speaker 1: million in twenty twenty two. So I can't do that.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Justin Fields under that scenario. But you always
Speaker 1: take the proven guy over the unproven guy if you
Speaker 1: have the cap space in the cash to pay the
Speaker 1: proven guy. Always great to talk to you. We appreciate
Speaker 1: your time. Have a great weekend, Mike, all right, Daniel
Speaker 1: too power. That's Mike Florio Pro Football Talk, Pro Football
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