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<v Speaker 1>Twitter handle at DPS show mclovin's duties. He is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with a pull question, but he does

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. He comes up with a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>poll questions. Yes, mclub exciting news too. I have our man,

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<v Speaker 1>Ethan is helping me with today's poll questions. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>not able to handle the duties and now Ethan, who

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<v Speaker 1>does our stats, is now helping Well, it's not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it sounded like. No, No, we all came

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<v Speaker 1>to a consensus on what question we wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>that I turned to Ethan for some numerical supportasical. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for that. Yes see he's reaching across

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<v Speaker 1>the aisle if you will, oh, ok, sending a hand,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, great timing, great timing to reach as across

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<v Speaker 1>the aisle. Everybody play nice, yes, Paul. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>rapper and a country start collaborating on a song and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hit the charts. Those two so like Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Cyrus and who was the uh oh well natz

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<v Speaker 1>X Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot that great song. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>MC club. I will guarantee all the pole results will

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<v Speaker 1>be tallied on time. You're counting every vote. Yes, although

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you call him me, I don't expect it.

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<v Speaker 1>I might make up the result. You have made up

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<v Speaker 1>the results before. Ahead, well, I'll go to the last

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<v Speaker 1>time I looked, which might be forty minutes ago, in

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<v Speaker 1>which case the results have changed. But that's an eternity.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not even get into that. Okay, Welcome to the program,

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<v Speaker 1>as you can tell, already in progress here, A little feisty,

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<v Speaker 1>a little frisky on this Friday, Packers roll over the

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<v Speaker 1>nine Ers thirty four seventeen, Davante Adams ten catches one

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three in the Town. The NFL finds the Raiders again,

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA officially starting December twenty second. This weekend, you

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<v Speaker 1>do have the Big one with Clemson and Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't sleep on BYU and boise I. Don't you know?

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<v Speaker 1>If BYU runs the table, they're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the Final four. I would love to have had

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<v Speaker 1>a Final eight. College football can't get anything. The NC

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<v Speaker 1>Double A can't get anything together quickly, so that's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. But I wish that they were open

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<v Speaker 1>to it this year. Michigan and Indiana, also Florida and

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia as well. We're told there's no excuses in football,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the NFL. At least there aren't supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Good teams just adjust. We hear it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and they got injuries and you just try

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<v Speaker 1>to make do with what you have. The Niners, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the normal rules don't apply. The Niners have legitimate excuses

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<v Speaker 1>this year, decimated by injuries. Nobody has lost more games

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<v Speaker 1>with their players to injury than the Niners have this year.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost four more players this week to the reserve

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<v Speaker 1>COVID list, quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo and George Kittle. They were

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<v Speaker 1>out last night. Most of the receiving corps was out

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<v Speaker 1>last night. Really, they had a shell of their normal

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<v Speaker 1>offense and they got blown out last night and defense

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<v Speaker 1>ran into You know, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers has performed.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say Aaron Rodgers esque. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we're waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Remember we weren't quite sure.

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<v Speaker 1>There were people who said they didn't know if Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers was a top ten quarterback this year in August.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't know if Aaron Rodgers top ten quarterback. He makes

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<v Speaker 1>it look easy. I'll say it, and I'll say it

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<v Speaker 1>until he retires. Nobody has ever made the position look

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<v Speaker 1>easier when they're at the top of their game than

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers. For years, there seemed to be a jinx

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<v Speaker 1>on the team that lost the Super Bowl. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of years where you didn't even get

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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs that following year. But that's the case

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<v Speaker 1>for the Niners. They're right there against the Chiefs. That

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<v Speaker 1>was only back in February, which seems such a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago. Hopefully they get healthy, the core group gets

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<v Speaker 1>another chance to compete at that level. But right now

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<v Speaker 1>they have to hope they can just put a competitive

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<v Speaker 1>team on the field. And the more I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>the game last night, and the Packers got their star

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<v Speaker 1>running back, Aaron Jones back. Prior to the game, we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't sure who was going to be their running back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I started to think, Okay, the Niners don't have anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>no one, and they're only a seven point underdog at home.

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<v Speaker 1>And I kept thinking, Okay, there's no home field advantage

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<v Speaker 1>for San Francisco. Start there. Packers have everybody for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part. Rogers is playing at a high, high level,

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams is playing great, and you're going out to

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. And I kept thinking, what does Vegas know

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know, Not that I would have put

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<v Speaker 1>money down on it, but I kept going, They're only

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<v Speaker 1>seven point favored. And then all of a sudden, they

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<v Speaker 1>just start to blow them out out and I go,

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<v Speaker 1>what was Vegas thinking? And I said to PAULI, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get Bret Musburger on. He's the Raiders play by play voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course he has a gambling site that he

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<v Speaker 1>works for in Las Vegas, and Brent will join us

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<v Speaker 1>next hour. I'm not sure what it was, but and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where the money went, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like that was a two touchdown underdog type feel

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Maybe maybe twelve somewhere in that it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And then you start to watch the game

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, oh, man, hold on for dear life

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<v Speaker 1>because San Francisco is going to get blown out here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Brent will join us coming up next hour, mclub

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<v Speaker 1>And what's the full question we're going with today? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still working out the choices here, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>could sign one wide receiver in the NFL to a

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<v Speaker 1>four year contract to build around the choices so far?

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Hopkins twenty eight, Davante Adams twenty seven? Do we

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<v Speaker 1>put Julio Jones on there? Devant Hey Adams turns twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight next month? Uh? Do we put Julio Jones on there? How?

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<v Speaker 1>Julio Jones thirty one? Okay, Michael Thomas, DK metcalf do

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<v Speaker 1>we put O'Dell on there? If you want to? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Evans, yeah right? And Tyreek Hill all right? Let

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<v Speaker 1>me play what Davante Adams how he responded to a

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<v Speaker 1>question last night. Now, he was asked about this and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't one of those after the games saying I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the best receiver in the game. Here is the question

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<v Speaker 1>and his answer. I think you're at the point where

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<v Speaker 1>you can say you're the best wide receiver in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's fair to say? Uh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's fair to say. I think that's not that's

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<v Speaker 1>not being conceded, that's just being confident. I think, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know obviously what I've what I've done, and UM,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm going to continue to do is going to

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<v Speaker 1>prove that, um to anybody who isn't on board with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I truly believe that just based off of the

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<v Speaker 1>work that I put in, UM, and the connection that

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<v Speaker 1>I have between my quarterback. You know, it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>about me. I mean just running a route and uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if the line isn't protecting, or if

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback doesn't look your way, or the other receivers

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<v Speaker 1>don't do they're part the poor defenders away. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's none of what I could do can happen. So

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I'll tell you, yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>i think I'm the best war receiver in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. But um, there's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>go into me being able to make that statement. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams with mclovin also in there. It doesn't match

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<v Speaker 1>the headline. It feels like Davontae Adam is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying, Hey, I'm the best receiver. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>agreed with the question, and I don't have any problem

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<v Speaker 1>with this if he thinks he is, great. I we

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted both ways, like, oh, man, you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>saying that too. Man. I'm glad he said it because

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<v Speaker 1>it gives me content. He feels it great. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no problem with that, but I wanted to have the

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<v Speaker 1>contact of it, because if you just see the headline,

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<v Speaker 1>then he might think, oh, who does Davante Adams think

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<v Speaker 1>he is? And Fritzie even said that in the morning meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, we're gonna play it for you in

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<v Speaker 1>its context, and then you're gonna understand he agreed with

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<v Speaker 1>the If the reporter says, who do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>best receiver in the game is, and then if he

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<v Speaker 1>says I think I am, that's a little different than

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<v Speaker 1>do you think you're the best receiver in the game? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard fair to say yeah. When I heard him

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<v Speaker 1>that he said that. My initial thought was that's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being arrogant and brigand and it's a turn off. But

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<v Speaker 1>the way he posed it, I see that comment in

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<v Speaker 1>a much different layer. I love the answer. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers, I love that he says that I want

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<v Speaker 1>him to feel like he's the best receiver. I want

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<v Speaker 1>him to feel that every single game when I go

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<v Speaker 1>out there, I have to be great. And that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of being the best receiver in the game is every

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<v Speaker 1>game they're game planning for you. And I'm there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a great player in any sport who goes I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Remember when I asked Steph Curry about

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<v Speaker 1>who's a better offensive player? That was a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and I asked him, I think four years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>did I ask him who's the best offensive player in

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<v Speaker 1>the game? And he said that he was, And people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, can you believe Steph Curry said that. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if he said, you know, I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>the best offensive guy on my own team, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably not, you know, maybe the fifth best, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the West. Right now, I want my guys to

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<v Speaker 1>feel that way every single show that I do, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to prove that I'm the best that does this.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether I do it or not, my mindset is you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that every single show. Wish the Dannets

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<v Speaker 1>would follow suit. But now it's on me, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it even m Sorry, are you the best

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<v Speaker 1>booker in the business? Yes? Okay, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>i'd be that confident. But how's that working out today? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, come on, come on, get him on. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an easy show. You know we do that. It's bad

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<v Speaker 1>timing for that answer from you time. Mike Floria is

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<v Speaker 1>joining us in the final I know it's quality now

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<v Speaker 1>you got Florio. Yeah, that's unbelievable. You should have told

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<v Speaker 1>me is a quality or quantity? I'm trying to how

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<v Speaker 1>does this swear? How do I get judged? I like quality?

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<v Speaker 1>The quality of quantity is what I like. How about

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<v Speaker 1>more quality? Yeah? See, it's not for me to say

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<v Speaker 1>who was a good book or not two minutes ago on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I don't like to get into that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not your place to say that today. Other people

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<v Speaker 1>make those decide on a you know, maybe a four

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<v Speaker 1>guest day. But I did I did drive in this

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<v Speaker 1>morning with the attitude that I am. Okay, okay have

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<v Speaker 1>that attitude. No, no, it doesn't always work out. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>you work hard, you do that's for meat Friday. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you're good, you work hard, you care. Yes, mc

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<v Speaker 1>cle That sounds a little bit like Mike Zimmer saying

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin is a good player? Did you see that headline?

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<v Speaker 1>And Everson Griffin was an upset that he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>get back at Mike Zimmer called him a good player? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's like Todd working hard is the good player? Meaning yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of those stories where the Lions defensive end

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin upset. Mike Zimmer called him, quote a good player.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the best I felt in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a little frustrated when I read that comment

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<v Speaker 1>what Zimmer said, Oh, Everson was a good player, Griffin

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<v Speaker 1>said Thursday, like coach Zimmer just wasn't a good coach.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a great coach to me, So for him

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<v Speaker 1>to call me a good player that kind of hurts

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<v Speaker 1>my feelings. On Sunday, I'm really looking forward to playing

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings and showing them that I'm a great player.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I'm ready to execute. Mental health is strong,

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<v Speaker 1>my physical health is strong, my mind is strong, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to go out there and dominate. I'm ready

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<v Speaker 1>to create, adapt and go out there and win. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>with me? Oh that's right, we're the Lions. Maybe nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin got called a good player. That's going to

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<v Speaker 1>motivate him? So he wasn't going to be motivated going

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<v Speaker 1>against his former team? Is Mike zimmer plan? By the way?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's gonna play in the game, is he?

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<v Speaker 1>But he's gonna go out there and he's gonna prove

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<v Speaker 1>it to somebody. Yes, and coach speak is saying someone's good.

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<v Speaker 1>But is that a negative? Like? Is Everson Griffin? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Was Zimmer taking a little shot there? Did you know

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<v Speaker 1>how coaches are always like the guy who were playing

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<v Speaker 1>this week is the best player I've ever seen? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right that that's normally the case. Even Belichick has

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<v Speaker 1>been known to hyperbole, you know, fall prey to hyperbole. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>George Kodle, He's the best tut in that I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Yeah, mclu did you see this week

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Arian said that Alvin Kamara is better than Marshall Fault. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a classic example of hyping up your opponent. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't think he's better than Marshall Falk, but

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Bruce Aries, it's better than going. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>quite Marshall Falk, but he's a good player. Then, Alvin

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<v Speaker 1>Kamaron going. Did you hear what, Bruce Arians? He called

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<v Speaker 1>me a good player? Yeah, you know you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do the good player thing. Take it into your home life.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine your wife just got back from the store and

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<v Speaker 1>she had a dress and she's tried on. Hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of my new dress? You said that

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<v Speaker 1>looks good? You're over man, You're cooked. Your weekend is shot.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't say that that dress looks awesome, hot, great, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to it's much safer to overcompliment than to undercompliment. Somebody. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your wife. Though a coach and a player is

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship. But it's a former player former coach, then

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<v Speaker 1>he must not have been that helpful to his cause. You. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how about a former girlfriend of yours and you saw

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<v Speaker 1>her and you were telling somebody you saw her. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you say she looked good? What would you say she

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<v Speaker 1>looked great? What am I talking to? Not your wife? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not your wife. Yes, when Paul brought up his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was talking about another area where you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear you were good, not great, It's Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>was good? Where are we going? What happened? That's great? Yes, time,

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<v Speaker 1>But you could also overstate or overcompliment. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>like the coach that screams all the time, you tune

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<v Speaker 1>them out. If every time you're a wife or a

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend who's looking for a compliment and everything is amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're you're incredible looking, or that's work looks perfect

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<v Speaker 1>on you, And when is it like legitimate? If anybody

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<v Speaker 1>should overcompliment their wife, it's you. Yes, you should be crawling.

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<v Speaker 1>But but then what am I Then I'm basically calling

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<v Speaker 1>my wife insecure. She needs me like to tell her

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<v Speaker 1>how amazing you should follow her dropping rose petals everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you gotta mix it up a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what. It looks nice. The other thing, Wow, look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, look like you're ready to go out of

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<v Speaker 1>the town. But if everything, I don't know if a

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<v Speaker 1>woman ever gets tired of hearing you look great. That

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<v Speaker 1>looks great no matter what she's wearing about it, what

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing. I don't know if a woman ever gets

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<v Speaker 1>tired of that. And that's it insecuted and you have

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<v Speaker 1>your okay if someone's just always telling you how wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>you are, like it changes your person out and then

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<v Speaker 1>you think you know your your mystery. Do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>hear yourself? Yes, when you see Fritzie's wife, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>watching a Kevin James CBS sitcom. You could fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the blank on the rest of it. Every one of

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<v Speaker 1>those CBS sitcoms, Leah Remedy is hanging out with the

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<v Speaker 1>ups driver. Yeah it is confused. Yes, it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to crazy hot and she's hanging out with the ups

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<v Speaker 1>to suspend a lot of disbelief on some of those

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<v Speaker 1>how did they get there? Yeah, so we gotta pull question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go with the wide receiver. Yeah, well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start with the wide receiver. You could tide one

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<v Speaker 1>for four years. I have a front runner. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of why receivers. Dude, Yeah, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>front rower. I could save it. No, no, you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell me for we go to break because of maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the hype, but I'm in on the DK

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<v Speaker 1>Metcalf training young. I feel like that clip of him

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<v Speaker 1>chasing down Buddha Baker is everywhere. He's that's the hot

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<v Speaker 1>new wide receiver here, and I think because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of how young he is, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>DK Metcalf's going to get a lot of oats and

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<v Speaker 1>rightfully so, and he might win it just because there's

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<v Speaker 1>newness to that. Davante Adams is a great wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>but wide receivers in Green Bay get overshadowed by Aaron Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>Like does do the quarterbacks make them better than what

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<v Speaker 1>they really are? In Green Bay? Did Brett Farve make

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<v Speaker 1>them better than what they really were? Does Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>make you better than what you really are? And we're

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<v Speaker 1>always going to fall back with praise on those quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>then we are probably with those wide receivers. If Sterling

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<v Speaker 1>Sharp doesn't get injured, he's a Hall of Famer. But

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Driver, Antonio Freeman, you know, Randall Cobb, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>just they're good receivers. But Davante Adams, it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>it is a little more special. Yes, but none of

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<v Speaker 1>them are first round receivers. I think that label of

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<v Speaker 1>being a second or third rounder sticks with those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>even Adams, because he wasn't a first rounder, So we

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<v Speaker 1>don't we Oh, he wasn't a first rounder, he can't

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<v Speaker 1>be that good, which he is. So if I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to take somebody for the next five years, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give that thought. I'll have an answer here

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. Yeah, And then I got to ask Brent

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<v Speaker 1>Musburger what was up here with Vegas with the seven

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<v Speaker 1>point spread. I'm just curious because when when the Niners

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<v Speaker 1>took the field and you looked at it, it it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like you had a junior college football team, like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not even a major college football team. We'll take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Phone calls are always welcome. We'll settle on our poll

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<v Speaker 1>question here. I'm curious if anybody suffered a bad beat

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<v Speaker 1>last night because there was a touchdown with four seconds

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<v Speaker 1>to go. That's where you watch and you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you got that under. I got the under.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I probably shut off the TV and wake

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<v Speaker 1>up in a bed full of money, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden you look and like I've done that before,

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<v Speaker 1>where you wake up at like two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and then because you didn't stay up for the whole game,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, oh my god, that's a bad beat. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I think betting the over, you're grinding the

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<v Speaker 1>entire game. But once it's over, it can't go back under.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing you can. You could be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there in the fourth part of thinking I got the under,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's gonna oh no, oh no, oh no no,

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<v Speaker 1>why would he score there? Once you get the over,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. I would probably, if I was betting, would

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<v Speaker 1>bet over unders more than I would the point spread.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's I know. But I did point spreads forever

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<v Speaker 1>and the over under. You root for both teams. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a weather guy. With over unders, I will look at

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<v Speaker 1>it in all seriousness. If you can, you can beat

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas a little bit if you get weather, look at

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<v Speaker 1>weather a little bit. You don't think Vegas looks at

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<v Speaker 1>they do. But I'm telling you you can anticipate a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. If you would have said, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the over under was with raiders in Browns. But

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<v Speaker 1>when my nephew who lives in Cleveland, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how windy it was and how bad the

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<v Speaker 1>weather was. That's when I would have gone, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>number here? Just curiosity, not betting. All right, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas does watch the weather, but if you're a local,

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<v Speaker 1>you may hear about five days from now we have

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<v Speaker 1>something possibly coming. Yeah, that's what I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>have like, Buffalo is playing Seattle in Buffalo this week

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<v Speaker 1>and it's supposed to be sixty and sunny. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>it had been different, then maybe we would look at

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<v Speaker 1>that game and the result, the end result differently. Yeah, mclovin,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any doubt that's going to come down to

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<v Speaker 1>a Russell Wilson drive in the fourth quarter of that game?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so set up for and I was wondering who

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<v Speaker 1>needs the game more? Because Seattle's got games coming up

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<v Speaker 1>with the Rams and the Cardinals and they're they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>for the number one seed. You know, Buffalo is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the number one seed, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't have to be great to win that division.

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle has it. It feels like there's different potential expectations

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<v Speaker 1>with them to be the best team in the NFC.

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo is just trying to win that division, but they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're close to be in better than

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh or certainly not better than Kansas City, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>better than the Ravens. Yeah, the club. What about national

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<v Speaker 1>reputation wires? Not that they care, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills need a big win to get back in

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's good graces because they were hot early. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>they do get a win, it feels like we're still

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<v Speaker 1>the jury's out on them because we saw them in

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<v Speaker 1>National on National TV a couple of games and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look good at all. And if they do win

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<v Speaker 1>this game, it's not on National TV. This isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>standalone game. I don't think. Is this a one o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>game in Buffalo? Probably, so check on that. Mclovin. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>we settled on a poll question. You could sign one

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver to a four year contract. Who would it be?

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<v Speaker 1>Jandre Hopkinstavante Adams, Julio Jones, Michael Thomas, DK Metcalf, Odell

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham Junior, the third, Mike Evans and Tyreek Hill? How

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<v Speaker 1>old is Tyreek Hill? See? Twenty five makes me a

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<v Speaker 1>little nervous off the field, he's twenty six years of age.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, go round the room. You got to pick

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<v Speaker 1>your wide receiver the next four years, mclovin. I'll start

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<v Speaker 1>with you, easiest choice, DK back, all right, seton O'Connor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>DK Metcalf is putting on quite a show already. We

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even seen a real full season of DK Metcalf

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<v Speaker 1>being great. Yes, point, oh man, I'm gonna say DeAndre Hopkins,

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<v Speaker 1>more consistency, more explosive. DeAndre Hopkins twenty nine, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been twenty eight. Twenty okay, twenty eight, next four years,

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Hopkins Todd. I'm just seeing him without a shirt

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<v Speaker 1>before I even watching how a football? Dk metcalps. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not usually why you would give somebody a four year deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it over to top. Hey can I see you

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<v Speaker 1>without your shirt? On the top three reason? Though? For

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<v Speaker 1>shut that was my one two. It was the shirt thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>before I give you the four year contract, can you

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<v Speaker 1>take up your shirt? I you're not getting the backside

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<v Speaker 1>of their career for most of these guys, you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>the meat the prime, like Kevin Costner. If I look

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<v Speaker 1>at this from all different angles, like DK metcalf is

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<v Speaker 1>somebody I can market and that factors in as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Russell Wilson, who's in the prime of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>If I how long is okay, let me run down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the reason why I'm picking who I'm picking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mcle I'm just curious. You have to say, today, when

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<v Speaker 1>is the cliff where wide receivers fall off? Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna guess thirty two or thirty three. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>said maybe thirty thirty one, Okay. DeAndre Hopkins, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how great Kyler Murray can be throwing. Hopkins is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight, so I got four more years with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams, I don't know how long Aaron Rodgers. Is

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers going to be there two more years? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't know about Jordan Love So I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>factor that in. Julio Jones, is he gonna be with

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ryan next year, Michael Thomas, Drew Brees is going

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<v Speaker 1>to retire now, Taysom Hill, Jameis Winston, Yeah, pol let's

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<v Speaker 1>I removed the quarterback and these are just like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a fantasy draft. All these receivers are available and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a four year, eighty million dollars. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I got a factor in the quarterback because then that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna their production is based upon that. DK Metcalf has

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson junior, the third in his prime. Odell Beckham

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<v Speaker 1>won't be on the Browns probably next year even if

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<v Speaker 1>he is. Is Baker Mayfield there, Mike Evans, Tom's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play one more year probably, and then Tyree Hill. As

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<v Speaker 1>much as I'm not a fan of Tyree Hill, he

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<v Speaker 1>is a fascinating player, and I've got him with Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would do DK Metcalf just because of his age

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<v Speaker 1>and Russell Wilson playing as well as he is. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they're gonna be together for four years. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about Evans and Brady Odell in his situation. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas with Drew Brees, Julio with Matt Ryan, DeVante Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe two more years with Aaron Rodgers and DeAndre Hopkins.

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<v Speaker 1>Comes down to is Kyler Murray a consistent in the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket and I don't know if he is. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's an explosive, great, exciting quarterback. But if I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>for just production, I'd probably go DK Metcalf. Believe it

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine

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<v Speaker 1>I was growing up, I wanted to do what Brent

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Musburger did on the CBS pregame show. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>king and he's still doing it. The Raiders play by

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<v Speaker 1>playboys lead broadcaster and Brent joining us now, Good morning, Brent,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? Good morning, Danny. Good to be talking

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to your lad. Here we are midway point infl Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders still alive, Still alive in that wildcard battle. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they'll run down the Chiefs, but hey, you've moved

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>up in class. Mercedes Ben's a sponsor. That's a big time.

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>That's time, My man how's this going over with Las Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>The Raiders get fined over a million dollars and lost

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<v Speaker 1>a draft pick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, the COVID

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>restrictions are the COVID restrictions, and the league does what

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the league does. I'm going to be perfectly honest. I

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<v Speaker 1>am not permitted inside the facility or out to practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand it, and I have stayed away with

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<v Speaker 1>I felt some sympathy for my buddy John Gruden when

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>he was fined earlier this year a DAN one hundred

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand because the masks kept coming down in the night

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>game against the New Orleans Saints. Here, I'm really not

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed with all the details about the situation

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<v Speaker 1>regarding Trent Brown. Obviously, he was not wearing the monitor

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<v Speaker 1>around his wrist and that led to exposure to some

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<v Speaker 1>different players. And then he went shoe shopping with one

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<v Speaker 1>of our safety is allegedly shoe shopping. Oh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a main attraction here in Las Vegas,

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>shoe shopping. But anywa, rate, we lost Abram for a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to let people know, Brenda Is mentioned shoe shopping.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, uh, women dancing, exotic dance, adult entertainment, right, Brent, Exactly, okay, exactly,

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that's okay. I like what I'm seeing with the Raiders.

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they're a playoff team. And also I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the numbers with Derek Carr. His completion percent

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>his quarterbacking, quarterback rating, and completion percentage has increased every

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>season since twenty seventeen. He's up to seventy one percent completion.

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<v Speaker 1>His quarterback rating is one ten. Those are impressive numbers. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, his interception percentage is the fifth lowest among

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<v Speaker 1>qualifiers in NFL history, in history. So what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what are the Raiders missing this year? Defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Defense and defense? They cannot they now last week they

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<v Speaker 1>use the weather to their advantage and they were able

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to shut down Baker Mayfield. But you and I know

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>that when you have a fierce wind like they faced

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 1>up in Cleveland, gustine upwards of thirty five miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>it was much easier to shut a quarterback down because

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<v Speaker 1>accuracy was so difficult. Derek Carr and John Gruten have

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<v Speaker 1>been on the same page now for some time. There

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<v Speaker 1>was an over as there always is when a team

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>loses and doesn't perform well. The media, in particular jumps

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<v Speaker 1>on the quarterback, and quarterbacks understand that around the league,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was never Derek Carr's fault when they struggled.

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<v Speaker 1>And John's system is difficult, especially when it comes to terminology.

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<v Speaker 1>The number plays he calls a very insistent. He has

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<v Speaker 1>pushed Dan. He has pushed Derek car to run more.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he ran for a couple of first downs

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<v Speaker 1>against Cleveland to the week before. Quarterbacks in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>when things break down and they see it they can

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<v Speaker 1>move the sticks for a first down, they have to

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<v Speaker 1>take off. Those are the most successful quarterbacks and Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Carr has been doing that. He's on the same page

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<v Speaker 1>with John with the West Coast offense and now with

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Ruggs and Ruggs gaining more and more experience as

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<v Speaker 1>speeds are out of Alabama, they'll be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>downfield a little more often. When you're watched Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>last night, you watch the King of receivers. Outside the numbers. Now,

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>traditionally those are the most difficult throws for a quarterback

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in the end at why I say outside the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're moving down and you get close to the sideline.

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>We call that outside the numbers. Nobody is better than

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams, as he demonstrated again last night, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would assume as time goes forward, as he works on

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<v Speaker 1>route running of Ruggs will be very, very lethal outside

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers because you'll beat You'll beat the defensive backs

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<v Speaker 1>by a step and a half. He's got elite speed.

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<v Speaker 1>So things are looking up offensively, but it is the

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<v Speaker 1>defense and we'll see what they're young impressive rookie of

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers, Justin Herbert, is able to do against the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders this week. I think this is a very tricky

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>game for the Raiders. The Chargers have to be the

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Chargers have perfected the art of blowing big leaves. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be an angry football team this week. I

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<v Speaker 1>was also curious about this. Vegas had the Packers as

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<v Speaker 1>a six and a half point favorite last night, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kept thinking, what am I missing here? Because San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco's decimated Packers get their starting running back back, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no real home field advantage, and you got Aaron Rodgers

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and DeVante Adams, and I kept thinking there's something up here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought it would be like a ten and

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<v Speaker 1>a half eleven eleven and a half point spread there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get people to think because if there was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a blowout, it was going to be

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Green be blowing out the Niners, and you might just

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<v Speaker 1>take the money or the line there the points with

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. So what was Vegas missing last night on

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<v Speaker 1>this game? Now, Vegas wasn't missing anything. They knew what

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the Packer defense had done the previous week against Alvin Cook,

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and they know what Kyle Shanahan lives to do is

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<v Speaker 1>run a football. McKennon was back. He missed last year

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<v Speaker 1>with an injury. He's a solid running back. They expected

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<v Speaker 1>they expected the forty nine ers to come running. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to be careful when you move a line up

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to ten points because two things happen. Number One, those

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>who just bet that opening number were rotates too will

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>automatically take the ten ten and a half. And then

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>those of us who liked to tease ie me, we

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<v Speaker 1>would immediately go up to sixteen and include that in

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>our teaser with the forty nine ers. So there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things that bookmakers have to look at.

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>And there was money bet on San Francisco even even

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with that particular opening line. Actually, how much respect they

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>have for for coach Shanahan. What's the worst bet you

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>ever made? Last week the New York Jets taking the

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>points against the Kansas City Chiefs. I always, I always

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>remember my worst most recent bet. If you know what

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I made, Dad? How about a great one? Well? Last

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>night I teased the Packers down to one, and I

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>tease the over under number up to fifty four and

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a half and went to the under. That was a

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>good bet because the regular over under went down with

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that last touchdown when they put it up over the

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>fifty mark. That was a huge money mover last night

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>in the Packers forty nine Ers game, I lost a

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>game the Packers and the Bears and Chester Markle. All

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:57.479
<v Speaker 1>he had to do was kick a field goal. I

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>cover and he hicks it, it's blocked, He gets it

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and he runs it in for a touchdown. That was

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>my bad beat. Brent, Listen, I remember that I knew

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>where you were aheaded as soon as you bet Chester Marco.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Were you betting when you were doing the pregame show? No,

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I was actually being educated by Jimmy the Greek Um.

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>You know. I suppose occasionally I would I would come

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>here when we weren't covering the Super Bowl and I

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>would come out and make a bet. But but basically

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I was a total innocent about points bread

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>that in growing up as a kid in Montana. Did

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>My education came later and it was generally Jimmy the

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Greek and many many of us know that when the

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Greek made a move the other way that you know,

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing how far we've come though with betting, with

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>all the sports, in particular the NFL. Where do you

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.239
<v Speaker 1>think we're going to be in five years when it

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>comes to betting in the NFL? And well, states states

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>are going to continue to be added to those who

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>have it legalized. I think in this recent election, I

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>think I saw that three more states legalized that, including

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Maryland and other Colorados out for speed. I think we'll

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>continue to grow. But I you know, I warn everybody,

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and I do this all the time. If you think

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>you're going to walk in and you're going to immediately

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>make a lot of money, think otherwise. Okay, those numbers

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 1>are very very difficult to beat on a regular basis. Now,

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're fifty dollars better, like I am occasionally up

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>to one hundred for recreation. I think that's fine. I don't.

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem. Last night it actually enhanced

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd had enough of the election coverage and so I

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 1>was able to watch a football game with a little

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 1>added interest. But I just danny, Especially for youngsters, I

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>keep stressing, Yes, I think it's part of it. We're

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>going to have it, but be careful. There are very

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>very few people who can make big money trying to

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>beat those numbers week in and week out. So just

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think. Don't think that you're gonna Oh I can

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>do that. I can. No, you can't. Okay, that's my alert.

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's going to be with us. It's part of

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. It helped the NFL become what it is today.

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 1>People enjoy it, whether it's just picking winners or going

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>against the spread or over unders and now all these

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>propositions that are out there. Everybody can but you don't

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>want to get in over your head. Just please please don't.

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I keep trying to stress that because I'm someone who

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 1>really enjoys it, who thought it should be legal lives,

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and now that we have it, especially youngsters, have to

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>pay attention. This is not, under any circumstance an easy

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>way to get rich. Let me let me just tell

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you that right now. I'm also wondering, once we get

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>back to whatever normally is where fans can go to

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the stands, could you see an actual betting parlor in

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>stadiums that you know, you have to become a member

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to get in, you have to have cash to bet

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>or debit cards, and that you could bet. You know,

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you almost like you have in the Premier League, but

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>have a sports book at a stadium. But there's no question.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Now it's not day after tomorrow that this is going

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>to come, but there's no there's no question it is

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.439
<v Speaker 1>going to happen because when you look around the league,

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was the Indianapolis Colts who signed up

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>a casino. First of all, they're the first team to

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 1>align themselves with it, and that's the initial move. And

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>then as as time goes on, the league and the

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 1>league really if you look around, it's amazing how quickly

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 1>the league has accepted it. I mean, there are sponsors

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>on broadcasts. William Hill I see them up all the time.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>They were going to be bought in the United States

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>by Caesar's. Caesar's going to rebrand it. Caesar's a big

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>story in Las Vegas here this morning. But absolutely like

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the Premier League down in Australia, they've got betting kiosks

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that you go into down there to better Australian rules

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>football as a game was unfolded. That is to come,

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 1>but I don't. It's not day after tomorrow. I mean,

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's going to take years, if not decades before

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>we get to that, but we're headed in that direction.

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>What's the first game you called? Oh, any first game

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 1>I called would would have been a Chicago Bear preseason game.

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I was the spotter Lindsay Nelson. George Hallis really like

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Lindsey Nelson because Lindsay did with the review of the

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame games on television early Paul Sunday Morning, okay

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>with Paul and George Hallis was very fond of Lindsay.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>So Lindsay did Chicago Bear preseason games. I became Lindsay

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>spotter and he was such a such a nice man.

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I was working locally in Chicago, and then Lindsay couldn't

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>do it any longer, probably because of his New York

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Mets responsibilities. I don't quite remember the circumstance. And so

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>George Connor, the old great linebacker, a great defensive player,

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>he was the analyst, and they asked me to do

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.479
<v Speaker 1>the play by player, and I don't, I really don't.

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>We used to play, believe it or not, the Packers

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>every preseason, so I and they would play in Milwaukee,

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 1>like Green Bay or Chicago, sort of a neutral site,

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the Old County Stadium. So that was probably my first

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>play by player that I ever did. Did you have

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 1>any interaction with Lombardi a lot? As a newspaperman of

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the sixties, I was around Vince a lot and when

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I first met him, I was scared to death of him.

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I was a tiptoe when I go in after a game.

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Normally he was on the winning side. What I found

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>with Lombardy it was very strange. I'm not sure I've

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>ever found this with a coach. After a win, he

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>was more cantankerous than after a loss. Now, granted didn't

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>lose many games, but he was the most gracious loser

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>that I ever had. The interview after a game. I

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>remember in nineteen sixty three, Paul Horning had been suspended

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>for gambling by Commissioner Roselle, and the Bears were able

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to win the conference and go on to win the

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 1>NFL Championship in Chicago against the New York Giants. And

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>so we handled the Packers during that season, and I

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>probably would not have if Horney had been playing, to

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you the truth. But any rate, no one was

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>ever nicer. And when you went to Green Bay on

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Friday night, Friday night, he would he would have a

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>no one was Saturday night, actually it was Saturday night.

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 1>He would, especially the New York writers. He was very

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>friendly with Red Smith and some of the others because

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>he'd been a long time assistant coach with the Giants.

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>But he always had a nice cocktail party over at

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>his house, very modest house, and we would all get

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>together and have a cold beer and talk. And he

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't talk about the game, and he always said, there's

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>nothing going to do about it now the game planners

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and would go see what it is. I always remember

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 1>my time with NSIL party. I had enormous respect for him.

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Covered the Super Bowl one and he felt so much

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>pressure for the NFL to win that game and beat

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs. He took the Chiefs up to

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Santa Barbara and basically locked them away from us. Hanks

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Graham and the Chiefs went in a long beach and

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>they were wide open. Every day you go watch practice,

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>go talk to coach Stram, a completely different build up

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and coach coach on Barty later told me that he

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>felt that the weight of the entire NFL was on

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>his shoulders to win that game, And of course they did,

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and dramatic fashion and storyboat fashion, with Max McGee having

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>stayed out basically half the night not thinking that he

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>was going to play, and then because of an injury

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 1>to the wide receivers, he became bart stars receiving stars. So, yeah,

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I was around, I was around coach a lot, and

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I really really enjoyed my experience with him. Yeah, I

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>could understand that, you know, there's a little tiptoeing or

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>trepidation when you're around some of these, you know, they

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>was that way for me with Tom Landry, It was

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.919
<v Speaker 1>that way for me with Don Shula, with Bob Knight

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>for a little while where and then all of a sudden,

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>like you have to kind of work your way in

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>where I don't know if you prove yourself, but I

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>just kept showing up and if you keep asking questions,

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I eventually became very good friends with

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Don Shula coach Landry I did not I did not

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 1>know him that well. Chuck Nole was a guy who

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>intimidated me as well. But you just kind of hang

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.240
<v Speaker 1>in there and hold on for dear life. Sometimes exactly

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>exactly I did that with Woody Hayes also, Actually it

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 1>was not until Woody was replaced as head coach of

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. RAA. Parseigan became one of my analysts, and

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Er and Woody were were dear friends and rivals, and

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 1>we would going to Woody's office after he'd been let go.

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.320
<v Speaker 1>We would see him every time we went to Columbus,

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:19.839
<v Speaker 1>and he became, you know, just a cuddly old grandfatherly type.

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna tell you, well, I was a newspaperman

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and I would get sent in as a columnist to

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>cover a big Ohio State game. And you were around Woody,

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you were really careful around him at the time. Boshimbechler

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 1>intimidated me a little bit, and like you say, you

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 1>just keep going, you keep going, And finally they actually

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>become very good friends a bow. I've worked games with

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>him actually in the in the booth. So but but

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you just hang in, like you said, and that is

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the way to approach it. And it was it was

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>different back in that day. I mean it was very,

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 1>very different. When I covered baseball in the NFL. I

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.760
<v Speaker 1>would actually run with some of the players after games.

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>But we under no circumstance when we write about going

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 1>out and having a beer after a game or anything

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.959
<v Speaker 1>like that. But it's it's entirely different now. The media

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.479
<v Speaker 1>is not as close to the players, and of course

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the athletes have to be so careful when they go

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 1>out because everybody's got a cell phone, which makes everybody

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>a reporter. And times have changed. Notre Dame plus five,

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame getting five. Yeah, not enough, not enough for me,

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I pass. I think that's that's a game that has

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to be at around to seven or eight level. Before

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I think about Clemson. Uh, you know, there's three teams

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're looking at right now, Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson.

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>They appear to me to be headed for the playoffs

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and then they can choose whoever they want to be

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the fourth team. But I think those three I mentioned

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Dan are probably at an elite level. It's great to

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 1>talk to you as always, and thanks thanks for sharing

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 1>and have on this weekend. Thanks danct you soon all right.

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.399
<v Speaker 1>That's Brent Musburg, Hall of Famer radio play by play

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:11.479
<v Speaker 1>voice with the Raiders and managing editor for a Vision.

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:17.120
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0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:20.480
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0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.120
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0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.120
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0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:30.080
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0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:34.000
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0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 1>us from our Honolulu affiliate. Ryan. Thanks for staying with

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>us in the final hour. You're welcome. Dan. I'm an amateur.

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I can handle it, Okay. So I've got a couple

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>of comments on pod and then I've got a couple

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.280
<v Speaker 1>of mock horse lines to finish off with. Okay. Pod

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 1>one the inaugurable Oh man, I missed that up inaugural

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Golden PERNY Awards, so technically he's the most ordered booker

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>in the BIS. Yes, yes he did win. Now, you

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>guys talked about complimenting. Now, you gotta compliment your wife

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.479
<v Speaker 1>because I tell her she's pretty every day. You don't

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 1>have to lie when it's the truth. Now, I was

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 1>blessed to meet with Todd and his family in Hawaii

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 1>when he came. And he has a beautiful family and

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>they were amazing last year. And see over complimenting his

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 1>good Todd. Didn't that feel good? Did that make you

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>feel good? It did make me feel very good, very

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:36.879
<v Speaker 1>warm feeling. And I'll do a hard out here, Mark

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 1>horse Lines Stallion of the day, first time for a

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>long time, and this one for Poli fol Liage. Okay,

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's I think that's a trot off Dan.

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you Ryan. That's Ryan and Honolulu. I

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that you had met with Ryan. I went

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>to a University of Hanolu Hawaii basketball game while we

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>were on vacation, and you met Ryan, and Ryan was

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>there and if you just made to his lovely wife

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and we did a little bit in like between the

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>seats there did like a little interview with me. It

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>was very nice. I can't imagine you go to Hawaii

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:15.879
<v Speaker 1>with your wife and you say, you know what, let's

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>don't go to the beach. Let's go inside and watch

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a basketball game. The girls weren't as excited as my

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 1>son and I were, but like it was like one

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of those classic things with like with other schools. It

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just like the University of Hawaiian. There were like

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>teams from around the country doing one of those like

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the Maui Classic. Okay, yeah, I think that made it

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 1>that much more excited for my wife and daughter. But

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>we got through it all right. Well, that's that's Ryan,

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Ryan and Hallolulu. Ryan, the Fritzie of callers, the Golden Booker.

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 1>You know. By the way, Ryan bringing up something we

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>mentioned two hours ago, which doesn't always translate to the

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:57.399
<v Speaker 1>audience listening. If Todd had done that, looks like Ryan

0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:01.439
<v Speaker 1>just did, he would have been soaken too. Yes, Todd,

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:03.399
<v Speaker 1>no one even knows what they're talking about, right, Yes, Yes,

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 1>those two hours ago, Todd. Yeah, no one even knows

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 1>what that means. Yeah, but Yan, Ryan, No one even

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>knows what that means. Yan. I don't know Ryan. I

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't meet him in a basketball game, so I can't say, Ryan,

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that. You've got to be topical right down,

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>not something happened two hours ago, You're better than that.

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:25.279
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0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.320
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0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.520
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0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:35.160
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0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>good morning to Peacock, who carries the program, also carries

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.640
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0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Chris Simms every morning Monday through Friday, preceding our show,

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and Mike kind enough to join us. What did the

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Raiders do wrong and did it warrant that kind of punishment? Well, Dan,

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 1>it all flows from the Trent Brown positive test that

0:47:56.920 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 1>was followed by Trent Brown not wearing a content tag

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>tracing device, which is one of the key mechanisms for

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>determining who was exposed to a player who eventually test positive.

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 1>That was part of it, and it was an accumulation

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of the various things we've seen. The Raiders punished four

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 1>from John Gruden not wearing a mask that was three

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:18.879
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand dollars in total fines, an unauthorized

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 1>person in the locker room that was another fifty thousand

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 1>dollars fine. The event where several players were present in

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.720
<v Speaker 1>a confined space with too many people and no masks

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>in sight. Players were fined for that. So this is

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that system of progressive discipline the NFL uses. When the

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:40.320
<v Speaker 1>first effort doesn't take, they hit you a little harder

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 1>than next time, and they'll keep hitting you harder and harder.

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 1>So this time six hundred and fifty thousand dollars in fines,

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a sixth round draft pick goes away, and if they

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>don't straighten up, there will be more punishments and they

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>will be more severe, and the draft pick usually is

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.400
<v Speaker 1>what gets a team's attention. They don't like giving up

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>those unscratched lottery tickets that can be come anything. They

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to have those stripped away from them. I

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know if his comments matched the headline, and it

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 1>was fair to Davante Adams. He was asked basically, are

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you know are you the best wide receiver in football?

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 1>And he said yes, and then he explained why he

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>thought he was. I have no problem with it. It's

0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like we criticize the athlete when he doesn't say anything,

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and when he does say we criticize him for saying

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:28.760
<v Speaker 1>something Davante Adams, I don't know, is he the best receiver?

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.319
<v Speaker 1>If I Okay, here's the question we had earlier, Mike,

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you can have any receiver, any receiver for the next

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:38.879
<v Speaker 1>four years. The cost is the same. Who would you take?

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 1>He came Metcalf, without question, Dk Metcalf. That's who won

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the full Yeah, yeah, without question. But I don't have

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a problem with Davanta Adams saying he thinks he's the

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 1>best receiver, because you need to believe that in order

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to put that uniform on, in order to cross that

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 1>thick white stripe and go onto the field and accept

0:49:55.960 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the various physical risks that you're taking every time you play,

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and to play at the highest possible level, you need

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to have confidence that borders on delusion and sometimes crosses

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>over into delusion. I'm sure there are plenty of receivers

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:13.360
<v Speaker 1>not as good as Davantae Adams or DK Metcalf that

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:15.840
<v Speaker 1>would say, yeah, I think I'm the best. You have

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>to think you're the best. And I think one of

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the key ingredients Dan for the best receivers that we

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.839
<v Speaker 1>see now is not being a first round draft pick.

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Because not being a first round draft pick lights a

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>fire under these guys. Davantae Adams was a second round pick,

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas, who was motivated like anyone else at the position.

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Second round draft pick saw receivers that he looks at

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and says, I'm better than them go before him. Dcame

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Metcalf said he yesterday it was a blessing in disguise

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't a first round pick because it caused

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>him to not take for granted the opportunity in Seattle,

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 1>bust his ass and be who he is now. Should

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that game have been played last night, Well, it depends

0:50:56.160 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>on which team you ask. Well, the Packers getting Aaron

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Jones back certainly helped, but right I just it felt

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it was a bad look for the NFL. In my opinion,

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>here's the problem. When the NFL has an opportunity to

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>move forward with a game, it is going to move

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>forward with the game because if you bump this game

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to Sunday, Monday or Tuesday in order to allow the

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers to get back Trent Williams, who was

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:31.320
<v Speaker 1>removed from the game because he possibly was in sufficiently

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>close contact with Kendrick Bourne to end up getting COVID

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 1>nineteen or Brandon I first round draft pick receiver who's

0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>done a great job for them. If you get those

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:42.439
<v Speaker 1>guys back, okay, fine, But the problem is between now

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.399
<v Speaker 1>and Sunday or Monday or Tuesday, the forty nine ers

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 1>could find out that there are other problems and they

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:50.839
<v Speaker 1>could get to a point where you can't play that game.

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Then what do you do? Then that becomes the first

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 1>game of the eighteenth week of the season that we

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.319
<v Speaker 1>believe is inevitable, but they want to resist it as

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 1>long as they can. And so we saw this for

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the first time Dan with the Buccaneers Raiders game. They

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>went forward even though the Raiders had their starting offensive

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 1>line unavailable until Saturday or Sunday morning, I think it

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 1>was Saturday morning. They weren't prepared and they got blown out.

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 1>But the NFL got to play the game. The NFL

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 1>got to cash the check from the networks. I think

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:23.439
<v Speaker 1>that's a big factor in all of this. Even though

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you know you don't want to make it all about money,

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 1>they want to get these games in because they want

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 1>their money. And they got their money last night for

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>having the Packers forty nine Ers game on Fox. And

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 1>if you would delayed that game. There's no guarantee that

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get that game in. Is that how

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:43.279
<v Speaker 1>it works that NBC we'll write a check weekly to

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. No, No, I'm okay. I was thinking, Wow,

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm I'm making it as simple as possible

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and as linear as possible. And it's probably not that

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>way right if games are ultimately lost at a time

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>when there are broader negotiations happening with all the networks.

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that there's a rebate per se that

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>would go back to the networks. But you avoid that

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>conversation entirely if you're the NFL, if you deliver all

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:09.799
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty six games, which do they have

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a strong motivation to do? I mentioned this yesterday. There

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.720
<v Speaker 1>are two things I know that are true in the NFL.

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I know that the Kansas City Chiefs are the best

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 1>team right now, and I know that the Jets are

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the worst team in the NFL. I don't know much

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:30.399
<v Speaker 1>in between. Mike, do you have any definitives where you say,

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:34.800
<v Speaker 1>absolutely positively I know this. No, it's great, And anytime

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you try to do that, that's when you find out

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>that you know nothing, and I will agree that the

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs are on paper the best team, but I don't

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>know what would happen if you put the Chiefs on

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the same field as the Steelers right now. Because the

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Steelers have something and Dan. I think it was born

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in last year's adversity and the way they dealt with

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 1>not having Ben Roethlisberger and to have a couple of

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 1>what team did you grow up a fan of? No No.

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I grew up sixty miles from Pittsburgh, but I had

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to be different. I had to be a contrarian, so

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like the Steelers. I wish I had. It

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 1>would have been great seventies for me for Super Bowl trophies.

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>But I think that I've been around Pittsburgh my entire life.

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I know how this team works, and I think what

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 1>they went through last year planted the seeds for this

0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 1>year because they have been back, and they fight, and

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 1>they scratched and they claw. I watched that Raven Steelers

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>game back on Monday. I don't know how the hell

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers won, but you know what, throw out all

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the stats. Only one matters points scored points aloud, and

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:42.359
<v Speaker 1>they keep finding a way to do it. So I

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like if they played the Chiefs right now, they'd

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 1>find a way to outscore the Chiefs, even if the

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs would be going up and down the field all

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 1>day long with Patrick maybe. Yeah. I came into this

0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 1>season I said the Steelers are the most fascinating team

0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:00.040
<v Speaker 1>to me because I thought they had everything they He

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.720
<v Speaker 1>just needed Ben to be healthy, and Ben has stayed healthy,

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and here they are undefeated. You're a good friend, Aaron Rodgers.

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 1>In the last two and a half years, seventy five touchdowns,

0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>eight interceptions. Hey, look, I have become a tremendous Aaron

0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers fan, and I think part of it is hanging

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 1>around Chris Simms every day because he regards Aaron Rodgers

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 1>as the greatest quarterback of all time over his own

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>father Phil. And also I think that he was done

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 1>wrong by the Packers earlier this year, which makes him

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 1>more sympathetic. I don't think they should have drafted a quarterback.

0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>They should have gotten him help at receiver. And I

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 1>think that makes these last years of his in Green Bay,

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 1>however many there will be more compelling. And it makes

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:44.759
<v Speaker 1>me want to see him do well. And I think

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:47.839
<v Speaker 1>he has incredible physical gifts, and he's done more with

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>limited talent around him than I think any quarterback has

0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:55.480
<v Speaker 1>in recent memory. So yeah, I think he's tremendous. And

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 1>last night it was great to see what they were

0:55:57.640 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>able to do. Now it's hard to tell against the

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>forty Niners B team, but I like what the Packers

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:04.520
<v Speaker 1>have and I just wish he had more help around

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:06.160
<v Speaker 1>him because he'd have a better chance to add to

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:09.360
<v Speaker 1>his legacy. Yeah, and we look at these quarterbacks. You know,

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees is probably going to end up with one

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl. Five had one super Bowl. Rodgers may end

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 1>up with just one super Bowl. What does that second

0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl mean? Do you think the perception wise of

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback? Well, I don't know. Maybe we want to

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:27.799
<v Speaker 1>ask Jim Plunkett that because he's got two and he's

0:56:27.920 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 1>never mentioned as a potential Hall of Famer and he's

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:32.360
<v Speaker 1>got two super Bowl wins that he earned as the

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback of the Raiders. But I think it does start

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to separate you from the pack of greats. You know,

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 1>there's this echelon of quarterbacks and Tom Brady has become

0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I think once he got to five, the guy that

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.239
<v Speaker 1>we would admit is the greatest of all time at

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the position. Once he gets to six, I think the

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 1>debate ends. But then you start filling in under that

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and super bowls are part of it. Statistical achievement, longevity

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 1>is part of it. There are different ways that you

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:00.120
<v Speaker 1>can look at it. Brady was the first one to

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:06.359
<v Speaker 1>unite championships, longevity and statistical achievement. But yeah, they look

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>they all want as many as they can. Ben Roethlisberger

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 1>said before the season, Dan, he wants to win super bowls.

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:15.479
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want just one more, he wants two more

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>or more than two more. I mean, that's the way

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 1>these guys are wired. It's the Davante Adams thing. They

0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 1>all want to be the best every time. They want

0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to win every game. They want to win every championship,

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:26.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's got to torment them if they only have

0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 1>one when their otherwise great career ends. The Dolphins situation

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>with two, Adam Schefter reported that they basically this a

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 1>ten game trial for him because they have all these

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 1>draft picks, including the Texans, and that they might be

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:43.640
<v Speaker 1>in the market for a quarterback, which, all right, it

0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 1>surprised me, but it was Schefty reporting it. Brian Flores.

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 1>The Dolphins coach comes out and says, you know, we're

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>not doing this, not that he would say yes, they

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 1>are doing this, but what do you what do you

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 1>make of this situation with Twa tonga Volo? Is he

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>auditioning to keep this job next year? And Dan, look,

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't really think we need a report from anyone

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to lead us to the common sensical conclusion that when

0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:16.439
<v Speaker 1>you are holding the Houston Texans first round draft pick

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and they currently are in the top five in a

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>field that's going to have Trevor Lawrence and justin fields,

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you need to know what you have. You need to

0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>know what Tua is. And look, here's the reality. Twa

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>tong of Iloa was an ownership pick by the Dolphins

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>this year. He wasn't a coaching staff GM. Who's the

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 1>best guy, what's our best option? The owner wants a

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback. The Bengals said no, thank you. When the

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins tried to trade up. I still don't know what

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins offered, but the Bengals said no. So Stephen

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Ross wants this franchise quarterback. They picked Tua over Justin Herbert.

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 1>May have been a mistake based upon what we've seen

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.760
<v Speaker 1>from Herbert so far. The next ten games will tell us.

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:01.120
<v Speaker 1>But they have to know what to what has. They

0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:04.520
<v Speaker 1>have to see what TWOA can do because maybe there's

0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be a Josh Rose and Kyler Murray situation

0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>for the Dolphins next year. And you only know whether

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 1>or not to pursue that potential franchise quarterback by looking

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 1>at what you have and the guy that you think

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 1>could be your franchise quarterback. And Dan look, there's three

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:24.600
<v Speaker 1>types of teams in the NFL. Teams that have franchise quarterbacks,

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:28.240
<v Speaker 1>teams desperately looking for franchise quarterbacks, and teams that have

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a guy that they're not quite sure yet whether he

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:33.280
<v Speaker 1>is a franchise quarterback. Dolphins are in category number three.

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 1>They need to know whether they're in category one or

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:39.320
<v Speaker 1>category two before they're on the clock with the Texans pick.

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:41.840
<v Speaker 1>When April rolls around, I think it's a no brainer

0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that this is what they're doing, because you want the

0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>guy that's going to be your guy for the next

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:50.960
<v Speaker 1>fifteen or twenty years. Andrews Siciliano, tweeting Mike McCarthy still

0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:54.240
<v Speaker 1>won't name a starting quarterback for Week nine for the Cowboys.

0:59:54.800 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 1>If you ran the Cowboys right now, what would you

0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:00.880
<v Speaker 1>do well? I would have signed Al Kaepernick a long

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:04.720
<v Speaker 1>time ago to be the backup to Dak Prescott, frankly

1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 1>instead of Andy Dalton. So if Kaepernick were healthy, he'd

1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:11.480
<v Speaker 1>be playing right now because Prescott's not available. But based

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:16.120
<v Speaker 1>on what I currently have, you just have to hope

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:18.439
<v Speaker 1>for the best because it's not like you could sign

1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy and bring him in right now. Because of

1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the COVID nineteen protocols. It's not like you could have

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 1>an emergency option today and bring a guy in. You're

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:29.920
<v Speaker 1>stuck with Garrett Gilbert or Cooper Rush. You've decided Benda

1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Nucci's not the answer, and you just hope for the best.

1:00:33.000 --> 1:00:35.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Jerry Jones, I heard your last segment

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:39.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about what the Cowboys are doing. Jerry Jones has

1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a couple of words salad radio interviews every week on

1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:45.720
<v Speaker 1>one O five three the Fan in Dallas, and it's

1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a fascinating exercise in let's figure out what Jerry is

1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:52.120
<v Speaker 1>actually saying, and a lot of times you can't. But

1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:55.440
<v Speaker 1>he talked about this concept of possibly tanking, and he

1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:58.520
<v Speaker 1>danced around it. I mean, look, Tanking never happens from

1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the perspective of the player or the coach, although sometimes

1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the coach is in on it if he's got job security.

1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Tanking happens when you decide to see what your third

1:01:07.520 --> 1:01:11.280
<v Speaker 1>string quarterback can do, what your backup defensive back can do,

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<v Speaker 1>what your backup offensive linemen can do, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of takes its course. And if you're the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys right now, and you know it's done, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you look, it's just done. If you're watching the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's done. Yeah, they could still win the division. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's done for the Cowboys this year. Once you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's done, you win by losing, You gain in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft order by plummeting in the standings. And the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>never talks about that because they don't want to legitimize it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Jerry Jones is smart enough to know

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<v Speaker 1>he's got one of these weird years where the team's

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<v Speaker 1>going belly up. The last time they had a year

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<v Speaker 1>like this, they got Ezekiel Elliott. They may get somebody

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<v Speaker 1>great this year, And wouldn't that be something. If the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are in position to decide, do we take Trevor Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we take Justin Fields or do we pay Dak

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott thirty seven million dollars for one more year in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. If I said you could have Dak

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<v Speaker 1>or Justin Fields, I'd take Dak because we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what Justin Fields is going to be. We just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to spend thirty seven million dollars. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a different issue. You didn't tell me of what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pay that I want right Do I want

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys situation right now? Given the way they've mismanaged

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<v Speaker 1>it for the last two years and not paid Dak

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<v Speaker 1>the moment that the window opened on a second contract.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want that situation because here's the thing. Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven million is just the starting point. I can't tag

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<v Speaker 1>him in twenty twenty two because he gets a forty

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<v Speaker 1>four percent raise over thirty seven million. That's fifty four

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<v Speaker 1>million in twenty twenty two. So I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking Justin Fields under that scenario. But you always

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<v Speaker 1>take the proven guy over the unproven guy if you

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<v Speaker 1>have the cap space in the cash to pay the

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<v Speaker 1>proven guy. Always great to talk to you. We appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your time. Have a great weekend, Mike, all right, Daniel

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