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Speaker 1: The John Anick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annak and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Big job, the Kytufian frank Bers hold out rock up.

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Speaker 6: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Annik and Kenny Florian's.

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Speaker 4: Looking good on a Monday, Ken Flow. It's Monday, February ninth,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. Great to have everybody with us in

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Speaker 4: this episode five eighty two of the Anakin Floran Podcast,

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Speaker 4: powered by All the Smoke Fight All the Smoke Productions. Kenny,

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Speaker 4: I do believe at one point in our lifetime in

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Speaker 4: the United States of America, today will be a national

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Speaker 4: holiday the day after the Super Bowl, whether your team

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Speaker 4: is involved or not, whether your team wins or loses

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Speaker 4: or not. The kids are up late, and the fact

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Speaker 4: that I'm sitting here in Florida, my brother's kids had

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Speaker 4: to go to school today. You know, it's just not right.

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Speaker 6: Right, It's amazing. Yeah, kind of a not a great

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Speaker 6: night for us for the Patriots. But I do want

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Speaker 6: to say happy birthday to my daughter, the sweetest girl

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Speaker 6: in the whole world. Oh true. She turned eight years old,

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Speaker 6: supposed to go to cool today, but she actually has

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Speaker 6: like the flu on her birthday. This's like two years

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Speaker 6: in a row. But anyways, poor girl. But happy birthday, true.

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Speaker 4: Happy birthday. True. You look like your mother, maybe increasingly

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Speaker 4: seeing the floor inside as she gets older. Yes, but

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Speaker 4: my son, and I guess you could say my eldest daughter, Riley.

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Speaker 4: But my son, who will be eight in June, is

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Speaker 4: invested in the New England Patriots for the first time

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Speaker 4: in his life this season. Now, the expectations were not

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Speaker 4: that the Patriots would go to the Super Bowl. They did,

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Speaker 4: they lost, and so he took it particularly hard. Jason's

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Speaker 4: daughter Pearl, I think was impacted by the loss. You know,

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Speaker 4: I think there were a lot of other situations involving

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Speaker 4: lot more pressure on that team. This sort of felt

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Speaker 4: like it happened prematurely. But the Seahawks are an unbelievable team.

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Speaker 4: Will celebrate them later, actually to potentially with UFC Welterway

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Speaker 4: Michael Kiessa. He is a Washington State native, a rabid

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Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks fan, and he happens to have a fight

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Speaker 4: coming up March twenty eighth in Seattle, So if he

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Speaker 4: wakes up, I don't know what last night held for him,

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Speaker 4: but he is tentatively scheduled to join us in about

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Speaker 4: an hour. We will also be joined by the Underground King,

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Speaker 4: former UFC and Bellator lightweight champion Eddie Alvarez. Dustin Jacobi

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Speaker 4: had a big win over the weekend. He will join

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Speaker 4: us as well. And you know, ray Longo's gonna join

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Speaker 4: us too. Ray Longo is going to join us too.

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Speaker 4: He basically has told us, because we had to shift

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Speaker 4: his time, that he has ten minutes for us. And

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Speaker 4: I'm a man of veracity. I'm not lying to the audience.

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Speaker 4: I've been told as we sit here eleven fifty nine

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Speaker 4: forty five, and I don't know if he's messing with me.

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Speaker 4: We will find out coming up later. For now, sometimes

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Speaker 4: to celebrating battle born Mario Baltista. Let's get to headlines.

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Speaker 1: Headlines.

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Speaker 4: It's time for headlines and very.

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Speaker 1: Urgent and important breaking new headlines on the John Nick

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Speaker 1: and Kenny Surians contast.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what mutually exclusive means, but Kenny,

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Speaker 4: can the lightweight division be the deepest? But maybe bantamweight

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Speaker 4: excited to celebrate him today. He's gonna be with us

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Speaker 4: next week's on the Anakin Flooring Podcast. But you know,

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Speaker 4: when you can't fight for the belt, and he really

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Speaker 4: So what did you make of the main event and

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Speaker 6: Well, anytime you have the opportunity to fight in a

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Speaker 6: It's a big deal because the UFC is essentially entrusting

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Speaker 6: It was not to be for the Brazilian fighter. Instead,

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Speaker 6: it was Mario Bautista who showed a full arsenal of

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Speaker 4: Not impressive, I guess was Vensius Olavera's sort of will

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Speaker 4: down the stretch. I don't want to get too analytical

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, we talked about in the earlier fight

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Speaker 6: what they're all about. And I think Mario Bautista was

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Speaker 6: Boutista was all over him with his wrestling, with his groundwork,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the weight, and there's just a lot of

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Speaker 4: I just think write camp right, coach right, sparring partners,

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to see what he can do, and even

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Speaker 6: And he's a guy that we know has been forged

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Speaker 6: you are extremely high level. I don't care what year

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Speaker 6: The fact that Bautista was able to go out there

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Speaker 6: keep coming back to is his consistency. He is a performer.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter if the lights are brightest or not.

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Speaker 6: If he's facing former world champions or not. He always

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Speaker 6: shows up to fight. He looked fantastic. Yeah, OLIVERA, I

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Speaker 6: think we found out that he's got some more work

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Speaker 4: Has Mario had any sugar in the last six months?

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Speaker 4: He looked fantastic. Math sorr Ivloyev once said, know no

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Speaker 4: hopefully movstar has had a fucking lollipop or something within

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Speaker 4: you're Mario bout you don't perseverate over the champion pyotr Yan, Right,

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Speaker 4: but based upon pyotr Jan's last performance, like, best of

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Speaker 4: gosh right, So, but that is sort of the guy

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts, I guess I'll ask you first

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think there's certain fights, certain contenders that

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Speaker 6: very competitive, and I think the toughest matchups, again based

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Speaker 6: a morab dualaes Vili. That guy would be in Namagametov.

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Speaker 6: But the fact that he's fighting Pyotr Jan, and yes,

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Speaker 6: I think it would be a fantastic fight. I love it.

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Speaker 6: And to get back to what you were saying about

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Speaker 6: the one hundred and thirty five pound division, I would

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Speaker 6: go as far as saying John that it is the

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Speaker 6: most skilled division. You go all the way down. I mean,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna get to that fight. But Jean Matsumuto, Matsumoto

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Speaker 6: but the bantamweight division is absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: So the fight game as entertainment, if you're Mario Bautista,

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Speaker 4: it's just more comfortable to be yourself, right, Alexander Volkanowski

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Speaker 4: is so liberated in the fact that he's always done

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Speaker 4: it his way. Mario Bautista is born in the state

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Speaker 4: of Nevada. He has the battle Born tattooed on his forearms,

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Speaker 4: and after he wins fights or otherwise, he goes like that,

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Speaker 4: you know, sorry for my hairy arms. So certainly there's

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Speaker 4: a way to do more with the microphone time and

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Speaker 4: just be like I'm born in the state of Nevada.

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Speaker 4: I want to headline Team Mobile Arena. Fuck Corey Sandhagen

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Speaker 4: and everybody else in the bantamweight division. Right, and then

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Speaker 4: talking about your performance as much as we're talking about

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Speaker 4: your post fight interview. And yeah, maybe you're like, Sanag's

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Speaker 4: not gonna give me the fucking rematch.

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Speaker 4: But it's one thing to call for the Corey Sanhagan rematch.

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Speaker 4: a couple of Massachusetts natives and you'll notice Kenny Florian's

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Speaker 6: Hey.

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Speaker 4: So it's great to see you. You're the star of

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Speaker 4: I can get hyperbolic when it comes to some of

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought a fantastic fight, great scrambles. I mean,

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Speaker 4: He's right in the mix.

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Speaker 2: Ye, he's right in the mix.

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Speaker 2: You think I think he deserves the title shot? I

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Speaker 4: The fight game is inexact as much as it is entertainment,

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Speaker 2: Uh God, I tell you. I thought Horror Gucci outstanding.

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Speaker 4: They're both savages. They're both amazing. I think it's the

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Speaker 6: I do think it was not the best matchup for

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Speaker 6: al Meda, who has good takedowns. He doesn't have great takedowns.

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Speaker 6: And if you're going against a guy from Dagistan, Russia,

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Speaker 6: you better have great takedowns. And you know, Almeida gets

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Speaker 6: most of his work done when he's being aggressive by

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Speaker 6: getting on top of guys and getting on top, utilizing

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Speaker 6: his ground or pound and attacking with submissions. And if

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Speaker 6: he can't get you down, then he's going to struggle. Now,

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Speaker 6: I don't think he's a terrible striker, but he doesn't

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Speaker 6: show a level of comfort where I think this guy,

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Speaker 6: you know, if he can't take down, he's got a

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Speaker 6: plan B. He's got good striking, but I don't consider

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Speaker 6: it a plan B. He's not yet comfortable and relaxed

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Speaker 6: with his striking quite yet. And KONEV I think was

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Speaker 6: a little bit tougher, and I think Almada fight a

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Speaker 6: will to fight kind of waned as the fight went on,

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Speaker 6: and you know, but it wasn't a great fight, right,

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Speaker 6: And you know, to Dan Tom's point last week about

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Speaker 6: maybe it just being one round for your weights or

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Speaker 6: maybe h three rounds or something, perhaps that would have

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Speaker 6: been a better fight if that was the case for that.

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Speaker 2: Oh I I never heard that, But that's pretty freaking funny.

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Speaker 2: You got five thirty second rounds. Let's see if you

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Speaker 2: could go for it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, did you see that fight?

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Speaker 2: But what do you think, Kenny? You brought up something

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Speaker 2: with the toughness that a lot of guys just win

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Speaker 2: fights just being tougher, which I think is you know,

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Speaker 2: not good, you know what I mean? Like sometimes you

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Speaker 2: could be technical, but you're not pulling the trick. The

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Speaker 2: other guy's just tough. That's what I say a lot

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Speaker 2: of times now in the gym. That's what.

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Speaker 6: A little frozen there still there? Ray?

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Speaker 2: I mean, one guy was willing to engage and one

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Speaker 2: guy was.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Farred Basharat sort of deserves a mention here, Kenny. I

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Speaker 4: know you were excited about this performance. He's an undefeated fighter.

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Speaker 4: Escape hah yeah, get we can get you on the phone.

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Speaker 4: We can too shot this big right now and let's

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Speaker 4: do with me. Okay, So I'm not sorry, I can't

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Speaker 4: do this again. Okay. We also could just let Ray

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Speaker 4: get on with his Monday as excellent as he was

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Speaker 4: last week. I mean, you should be bonus for how

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Speaker 4: good you were last week. Get him, Kenny. It's amazing

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Speaker 4: for Farred basher Att. What a setback this would have

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Speaker 4: been if this split decision to Jean Matsumoto did not

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Speaker 4: go his way. But a great fight at one hundred

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Speaker 4: and thirty five pounds, just another good showcase for the division.

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Speaker 6: It was an absolute bank. Matsumoto really brought it, and

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Speaker 6: Basharat is, you know, I think deserving of that hype.

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Speaker 6: There were some moments where I was a little concerned

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Speaker 6: he was eating a lot of shots. I don't know

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Speaker 6: if it was maybe him getting a little lackadaisical or

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Speaker 6: maybe being surprised that Matsumoto was still in front of

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Speaker 6: him throwing big shots. But a credit to Matsumoto nonetheless,

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Speaker 6: four continuing to press forward, and he was out there

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Speaker 6: to win that fight and stop at Basharat anyway he could.

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Speaker 6: Wasn't able to get it done. I thought it was

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Speaker 6: enough for Basharat to get the win. His skill is

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Speaker 6: extremely impressive, his timing, his footwork. This is the new

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Speaker 6: breed of fighter that can do it all and do

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Speaker 6: it really well. And you know he did it against

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Speaker 6: a guy Matsumoto who was really determined to get that

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Speaker 6: fight to the ground. I thought he showed excellent defensive wrestling,

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Speaker 6: especially up against the cage, did some great escapes as

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Speaker 6: well to get back to his feet, and some tough

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Speaker 6: spots on the ground. But his timing and his willingness

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Speaker 6: to be exciting and go for a lot of these

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Speaker 6: spinning attacks early on showed how comfortable and how cool

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Speaker 6: of a customer he is when the lights are shining.

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Speaker 4: His brother also got to win. Javid Bashrat unanimous decision,

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Speaker 4: over Gianni Vazquez.

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Speaker 6: Can we call them the Bash brothers John, because Bash brothers?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think that there's already some friction there. Uh.

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Speaker 4: I wish I had looked up the pronunciation for yakub

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Speaker 4: vick lash. Did you see this guillotine at the four

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Speaker 4: fifty nine mark of round three over Moon Gaffarrov? I

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Speaker 4: did not, I didn't lockdog was kind of tapping like

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Speaker 4: John Annick right in that main event, just like really

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Speaker 4: quick with the tap, like let's just go pick golf

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Speaker 4: balls and never do jiu jitsu again. Uh, but man

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Speaker 4: tapping with a second to go is something? Hi, Ray,

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Speaker 4: I'm back.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that fight was crazy though, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One to go? What was that with one second to go?

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Speaker 4: You're talking about the Polish kid? Yeah, Maen, the.

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Speaker 2: Yeah Marine was winning the fight, that's the crazy part.

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Speaker 4: And yeah he got a little bit careless there.

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Speaker 6: Dan Tom brought up a fight that you and I

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Speaker 6: called between Thiago Alva, Thiago Alves and Martin Campman where

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Speaker 6: Campman came back last second to win that fight with

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Speaker 6: the guillotine, which I thought was interesting comparison. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: just just crazy stuff. Man. The fight is never.

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Speaker 2: Over, that's what that proves, man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if you're the taping type, which I am right,

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Speaker 4: you trust? Yeah, oh yeah. So when it comes to

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Speaker 4: rule changes in sport, right, and we talk about maybe

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Speaker 4: heavyweights with the one minute rounds. I mean, Dan Hooker

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Speaker 4: really has something with these one minute scraps. If you're

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Speaker 4: not following Dan on Instagram and on YouTube, I strongly

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Speaker 4: would push you towards that initiative. But in Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 4: you know, I know, you turn your nose up at

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Speaker 4: all these stick and ball sports because you're fucking sixty

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Speaker 4: plus or whatever, right, and you're a dick sometimes, right,

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Speaker 4: But Major League Baseball has instituted a pitchclock. They've made

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Speaker 4: the Yeah it's funny, Kenny, I'm fucking well, they made

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Speaker 4: the bases bigger, they made the game exponentially more ingestible,

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Speaker 4: pitch counts, it's shorter. You're in and out of there

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Speaker 4: in two and a quarter hours. Right with MMA. It's

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Speaker 4: it's tricky, but there are a lot of us that

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Speaker 4: if this was the you know, Anakin Florian Fighting Championships,

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Speaker 4: I think you could get really creative with a rule

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Speaker 4: set to try to not necessarily make the sport more exciting.

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Speaker 4: But to just see how many athletes a ten minute

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Speaker 4: first round would spit out, you know, like that's where

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Speaker 4: we'd start. So, Ray, if you had one thing that

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Speaker 4: you could affect change with when it comes to the

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Speaker 4: rule book, and I'm stalling for you a little bit.

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Speaker 4: For me, I would do as painful as it would

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Speaker 4: have been for rizvonkuneye Evan jailta al Mada the longest

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Speaker 4: ten minutes in the history of TV. Go watch Gabriel

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Speaker 4: Gonzaga Constantine Erocn the most boring heavyweight fight in the

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Speaker 4: history of the UFC.

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Speaker 6: Do it.

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Speaker 4: I'm serious.

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Speaker 3: You know, hey, you know these people who are raw

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Speaker 3: dog in these flights. Ray, have you heard about this

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Speaker 3: where they're on a fifty eight hour flight, no headphones,

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Speaker 3: no screens, no sleep, no reclining the chair. They just

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Speaker 3: they just stare into the monitor.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, if you want to do yourself some

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Speaker 4: ANMA punishment, go watch Gabriel Gonzaga Constantini rocan can anything

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Speaker 4: is me and b Stan If I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 6: Dude, even a fight like between two guys you would

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Speaker 6: never think would ever have a boring fight like Derek

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Speaker 6: Lewis and Francis and Ganu won, yes where you know,

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Speaker 6: their first fight and they were just like circling for

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Speaker 6: it seemed like an eternity And yeah, it's crazy. So

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Speaker 6: maybe we should have like a you know, like in

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Speaker 6: the NBA they have a shot clock. Maybe we have

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Speaker 6: like a strike clock where that's like five seconds no striking,

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Speaker 6: like they both keeps or something. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, timidity inactivity clock. Tody's saying in the chat. I

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Speaker 4: guess it's tricky because grapplers. You can't penalize grapplers, right,

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Speaker 4: so I would affect change by giving maybe a grappler

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Speaker 4: and advantage. It's like, okay, Islam gets you down in

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Speaker 4: minute one, are you surviving to minute ten? Even if

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Speaker 4: you're not the tap in type? Maybe you tap on

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Speaker 4: that night, you know what I mean? So how does

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Speaker 4: an Islam mahashev approach a sport in which he's got

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Speaker 4: ten minutes with which to work in round one? I

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Speaker 4: just I don't know. I think there are ways to

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Speaker 4: especially if you were some you know, amateur MMA promotion

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Speaker 4: trying to sort of gain a little steam. So ray,

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Speaker 4: if you were to institute a rule change, what would

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Speaker 4: it be am I putting you on the spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, we just blanked out for like ten seconds?

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Speaker 2: What what was the questions? I know you hate this.

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Speaker 4: But am I moving too quickly? I assure you.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry. I'm sorry. If you could change one

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Speaker 4: rule for me, it would be do a ten minute

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Speaker 4: first round. What would you do?

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Speaker 6: Oh? Frozen?

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Speaker 4: All right, we will talk to Ray next week. I

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Speaker 4: I think one of the worst ideas is to start

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Speaker 4: a fight promotion, right, you and I aren't gonna do it,

645
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 4: but it is fun to think about as a fan

646
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 4: what you would do with a rule set when you're

647
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: within the confines Kenny of Mixed Martial Arts. But you

648
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: and I are sitting down in a boardroom. No, we're

649
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 4: probably on zoom because we're trying to save every penny

650
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: because the ANAK of Florian Fighting Championships is gonna lose

651
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: so much money for our families.

652
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 6: Right, this is right, You gonna lose so much money.

653
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Speaker 4: Does you have to see fight pass? Want affc the

654
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: ANAK and Florian Fighting Championships? Do you? Here's our rule set.

655
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 4: By the way, we're waiting on Dustin Jacoby. You can

656
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Speaker 4: populate him anytime if indeed he does come on. So

657
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Speaker 4: all right, So I would you be behind me if

658
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Speaker 4: I suggested to our executive board of you and me

659
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Speaker 4: that we have a ten minute first round? Do you

660
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Speaker 4: support that?

661
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Speaker 6: I kind of like the old guy. I was a

662
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 6: Pride fanboy back in the day, So I like that

663
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Speaker 6: first minute round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, can you explain the yellow card to us?

665
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Speaker 6: I'll try so. Yellow card was a warning, was a

666
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 6: warning for a fighter for not being aggressive enough. So

667
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Speaker 6: if there was one fighter that was not really fighting

668
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 6: and kind of avoiding the fight, they would get a warning.

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Speaker 6: And I think on a red card they would get

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Speaker 6: a point taken away or something like that. So that

671
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Speaker 6: was like, that was essentially their verbal warning, if you will.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: If you could do sort of anything you want, like,

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Speaker 4: is there anything that you would do? So let's say

675
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Speaker 4: we got a ten minute first round, then the second

676
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Speaker 4: round is five minutes, yep, And I guess it would

677
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Speaker 4: be a two round fight unless it was a title fight.

678
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Speaker 4: But imagine for a title fight, you have a ten

679
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Speaker 4: minute first round.

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Speaker 6: Dude. While I think it would be I think it

681
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 6: would be a big advantage for guys like Habib your

682
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Speaker 6: Maaga Matova is labahashef it put you on your back

683
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Speaker 6: to give you more time for the submissi and to

684
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Speaker 6: just tire you out for the rest of the damn fight.

685
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Speaker 6: I mean that's yeah, so interesting, all.

686
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Speaker 4: Right, I wish I had the source for this report.

687
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Speaker 4: It was something I was going to ask Ray Longo,

688
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Speaker 4: but since he's not here, I'm going to ask you,

689
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: and perhaps your opinion would have deviated from his. So

690
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: I wish I had the source for this report. But

691
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Speaker 4: suggestions are that maybe the White House card is going

692
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Speaker 4: to be six or seven fights in totality, six to

693
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Speaker 4: seven fights, So the smallest fight on the card, right,

694
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Speaker 4: if you're thinking about maybe trying to project this out

695
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Speaker 4: an American, oh, yes, Ari Emmanuel on the Pat McAfee show,

696
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Cody, Cody born in the nineteen nineties, all

697
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Speaker 4: over it. So if we think about the smallest non

698
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Speaker 4: title fight, I think some projection maybe had like Sean

699
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Speaker 4: O'Malley and Corey Sanhagan, a fight that fans have been

700
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Speaker 4: pining for for a long time, that certainly the avid

701
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Speaker 4: fans would be really really excited about two American fighters

702
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Speaker 4: no title on the line. I think that is probably

703
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Speaker 4: like your your floor, Kenny, for like the worst matchup

704
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Speaker 4: you're gonna get. So what are your thoughts on just

705
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Speaker 4: and I again a little bit long winded, but I

706
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Speaker 4: just think logistically, Kenny, with so many things at play,

707
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Speaker 4: doing this on the White House lawn. You're not gonna

708
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Speaker 4: have twenty camps and twenty fighters.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I think yeah, probably logistically that it's an

710
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Speaker 6: issue and where do you put those guys as they're

711
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 6: warming up and all that stuff. But yeah, I think

712
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Speaker 6: that's only gonna lend itself. I would think for it

713
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Speaker 6: to be that much better of a card, Like every

714
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Speaker 6: single one of those fights are gonna have big names.

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Speaker 6: Everyone's gonna all of them are gonna be bangers. You know,

716
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Speaker 6: a lot of championship fights there, and even the fights

717
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Speaker 6: that wouldn't make it on a typical main card are

718
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Speaker 6: gonna be ridiculous. So I'm off for it. Man, that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if Morob Dwallash Willi and Piurian

720
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Speaker 4: is a fight that would land on White House Lawn.

721
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Speaker 4: I guess sort of now I'm maybe thinking not, but

722
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Speaker 4: who knows. I know Morob had an appetite for fighting

723
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Speaker 4: on that card, but he's no longer the champion, so

724
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Speaker 4: I guess that would probably complicate that desire. Justin Gaichie

725
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Speaker 4: did the rounds at Radio Row for the Super Bowl

726
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Speaker 4: in San Francisco, and we will talk about the Super

727
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Speaker 4: Bowl Kissa doesn't join us, we will sort of give

728
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Speaker 4: the Seahawks a little bit of seine here today on

729
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Speaker 4: the Anecan Florian Podcast. But I do believe Justin Gaigie

730
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Speaker 4: Eliot Topoitia is destined for June fourteenth, and I do

731
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Speaker 4: believe some sort of big man fight is going to happen,

732
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Speaker 4: heavyweight or light heavyweight. Maybe we'll book Tommy aspin All

733
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Speaker 4: on the show at some point in time, and I'm willing.

734
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Speaker 4: I got a good relationship with Tom and his family,

735
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Speaker 4: so maybe we could book Tom because I think for Tom,

736
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Speaker 4: I don't know what his relative eye health is, but

737
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Speaker 4: maybe June makes some sense. But again, excuse me, I

738
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Speaker 4: don't know what what priority being a United States citizen

739
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Speaker 4: is in this, because now I'm sort of thinking about

740
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Speaker 4: this not in terms of ten fights, but maybe in

741
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Speaker 4: terms of many fewer fights, six or seven fights. So

742
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 4: a few other things I'd like to get to. Eddie

743
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: Alvarez scheduled to join us in about ten minutes. We

744
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: were also efforting Dustin Jacobi. So did you you maybe

745
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Speaker 4: you didn't see this Nico Price getting knocked out by

746
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Speaker 4: Nikolai I Vivertenikov I did on this note I did not,

747
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 4: So I know the fans who saw this will be

748
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: calling for Nico Price to retire, and I'm not in

749
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Speaker 4: the business of that except in rare cases where I

750
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 4: think the public tone is so obvious that you only

751
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Speaker 4: fall in line unless you're just blind. And the way

752
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: he protested this stoppage along the fence, like he can't

753
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Speaker 4: take anything else. And I just hope that those close

754
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Speaker 4: to him will recognize that Nico I has taken his

755
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Speaker 4: last strike.

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Speaker 2: You know.

757
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Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of mouths to feed and

758
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: a tremendous competitive spirit that he has to feed, but uh,

759
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Speaker 4: I just think that, uh, he's such an affable, happy,

760
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Speaker 4: go lucky guy, you know that I would hate for

761
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Speaker 4: that to sort of cloak you know, potentially you know,

762
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Speaker 4: some of the you know, damage that he's sustained up there.

763
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean he just gets absolutely buried on

764
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Speaker 4: the fence and then he's looking at the side like

765
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Speaker 4: what you know, and it's like no, no, you know.

766
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Speaker 4: So that was a pretty tough visual. I'm trying to

767
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Speaker 4: think if there's anything else UFC Fight Night related. Oh yeah,

768
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Speaker 4: me call Olekshagic and Mark Andre Barrio. So I had

769
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Speaker 4: in my notes. Yeah, I mean, so power Bart, You're

770
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Speaker 4: just not getting out of there. I mean he's so willing.

771
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Speaker 4: I know he wishes at times. He was probably more

772
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Speaker 4: able athletically, but this old akshagic man, you know, what

773
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Speaker 4: a career he's sort of carved out and you know,

774
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Speaker 4: had to sort of hold serve as the favorite, and

775
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Speaker 4: he did. What were your thoughts on the uh middleweights

776
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Speaker 4: Olak Shigak and Power bar Mark Andre Barrio.

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Speaker 6: That was a great back and forth war. I thought

778
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 6: both guys landed some huge shots. I thought that Barrio

779
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 6: came back in round two after losing round one. I

780
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 6: thought Alex Sayshuk was going to eventually get the knockout

781
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 6: after round one. But to see Barrio come back in

782
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 6: round two, I was like, gosh, this is anybody's fight here.

783
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Speaker 6: Alexe Ay Schuck needs to get his his stuff together,

784
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Speaker 6: and he did. I thought defensively he was much better.

785
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Speaker 6: He started employing the jab yet again in round three,

786
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Speaker 6: which stopped that forward motion from Barrio, and then he

787
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Speaker 6: was able to stalk a lot more in round three

788
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Speaker 6: as a result, landed some huge shots. I don't know

789
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Speaker 6: how Barrio didn't go down. In fact, I thought Burial

790
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 6: landed some huge shots on alex Seychuk where he could

791
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Speaker 6: have got the knockout as well in round two especially,

792
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Speaker 6: but I thought Alexei Shuk did a great job of

793
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Speaker 6: reeling it in, getting composed, going back to fundamentals, not

794
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Speaker 6: looking for huge he was attacking the body again, had

795
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Speaker 6: better footwork in round three and was able to get

796
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Speaker 6: a win against a guy in Barrio who is certainly

797
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 6: not done yet. And I know he hasn't had the

798
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Speaker 6: best of results recently, but he's still a very capable fighter.

799
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Speaker 6: And for anyone questioning his chin, his chin was there

800
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 6: on Saturday night, man, that was.

801
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Speaker 4: The fight of the night, and that means one hundred

802
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars. That's a much bigger deal than fifty for

803
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Speaker 4: Mark Andre Barrio and Mikhail Olekshagak. Of that, I can

804
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 4: assure you performance on night bonuses Mario Bautista and yakab Wicklash.

805
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Speaker 4: I fucking wish I looked up the pronunciation for that

806
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: today because I hate to come on here and butcher it,

807
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Speaker 4: especially when I know a lot of producers are listening.

808
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: But he gets one hundred thousand dollars, that's a big deal.

809
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 4: He's managed by Joanna Young Jchik Kenny venture a guest

810
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 4: as to what percentage of fights have ended by finish? Right,

811
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Speaker 4: so we're in a new era now, five thousand dollars

812
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 4: for every finish, which is just the greatest reality. What's

813
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: the finished bonus in the Anakin Florian Fighting Championships?

814
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Speaker 6: Gosh, I mean, let's see, we're smaller promotion, John, Right,

815
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 6: So what we getting? Ten fifteen? What do we do

816
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Speaker 6: we do?

817
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: No, I'm being serious. The first show? What's the finisheds show?

818
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Speaker 6: Well? Five thousand, I think is reason?

819
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: What this guy is nuts? Who's funding this? Doctor guss I,

820
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 4: this guy, you're crazy. I'm thinking five hundred dollars for

821
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: a finish? What do you think this is? You think

822
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: we're like you think we're like we need to get

823
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: the fighters in here, John, We're not even. We're we're

824
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 4: not even. We're not our our launching point isn't We're

825
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: trying to in five years get to like cage warriors.

826
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 4: So our we're cage warriors is like our dream?

827
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Speaker 6: That's fair?

828
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Speaker 4: I mean, what do you I mean? I appreciate that was.

829
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Speaker 6: Big, generous. Yeah, you're right, we gotta start small. Five.

830
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, No, I mean, like when

831
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Speaker 4: I we're certainly gonna try to go like Poomi Nakuda's

832
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: is headlining our first show, so you know, and Poomy's

833
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 4: gonna have to take a pay cut. You know, he's

834
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Speaker 4: not gonna like it. Right, No, but for the game

835
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Speaker 4: Event Showcase, the main Event Showcase, I lost my train

836
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Speaker 4: of thought. So did you even give us what you

837
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 4: wanted for a rule change in MMA?

838
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Speaker 6: I did, all right? Well, I talked about the strike

839
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 6: clock a little.

840
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Speaker 4: Bit, all right, yeah, okay, you did, all right? So

841
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: do you want to talk about MMA or would you

842
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 4: like to talk about the super Bowl? Because I have

843
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: a number of different directions in which I could go.

844
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Speaker 6: Let's go with the super Bowl? Why not?

845
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Speaker 4: Can we talk about Shohn Strickland and flu Let's do that,

846
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: all right? So the next UFC main event is in

847
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 4: less than three weeks. I'm going to Houston, Texas, Sean

848
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 4: Strickland versus Anthony Fluffy Hernandez Hamsact she Mind's the Middleway Champion.

849
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: Everything on the rumor rumbling front is that Hamzad is

850
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: a monster and his you know, vision is two to five.

851
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 4: But this is a huge fight obviously, and a major

852
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 4: fight night in a big fight city, Houston, Texas. What

853
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on the next UFC made event before

854
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 4: we drown in our sorrows on the super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: It is a crazy, crazy fight. And you know, I've

856
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 6: been seeing some sparring footage of Sean Strickland, and you know,

857
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 6: I think this was something he did at some point.

858
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 6: You know, I guess when he was fighting at the

859
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 6: elite level, when he was challenging for the belt and

860
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 6: all that stuff. When he had the belt, you know,

861
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 6: his training was crazy and perhaps that kind of slowed

862
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 6: down a little bit. Right now, I'm seeing a Sean

863
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 6: Strickland that is fired up by this matchup against Anthony

864
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 6: Fluffy Hernandez. He is sparring like an absolute maniac. He

865
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 6: just seems way a spicier with what he's saying, with

866
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 6: how he's fighting, with how he's sparring. All those things

867
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 6: I think are really good signs because it just means

868
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 6: we're gonna get that much better of a fight. Now

869
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 6: we know what Hernandez is gonna bring. This guy is

870
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 6: a savage, non stop forward pressure. We know about his

871
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 6: grappling skills, we know about his willingness to trade as well,

872
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 6: and I think both guys need to fight aggressively to

873
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 6: get the win. So I think this can only be

874
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 6: a fantastic fight, you know, and two guys with two

875
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 6: very different styles and both guys who are capable of

876
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 6: winning it. It just comes down to, you know, the

877
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 6: determination of each fighter, the conditioning, which both those guys

878
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 6: are well known for when they're at the top of

879
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 6: their game and healthy. So this fight's gonna be crazy.

880
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 4: Man Hamzatschimaiev is my favorite fighter, but the knock on

881
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: him is that he is not an active champion. When

882
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 4: Sean Strickland the champion, when drink Is Duplessi is the champion,

883
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: the guy's turning around and putting pay per views on

884
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 4: his back.

885
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: I mean.

886
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 4: The last style bender Israelato Sonya, who fights Joe Pifer

887
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: in a main event March twenty eighth in Seattle. These

888
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: guys fight all the time. I mean, don't even get

889
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 4: me started on Morob Dwalash Willie. So when you look

890
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 4: at the middleweight division right now and these guys are

891
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: are on the cusp, I mean, these are all all

892
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: of these fights are absolutely massive, right even if you

893
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: suggest Joe Pifer is the fourth biggest fight Hamsat versus

894
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 4: Adasanya hams Nott versus Sean Strickland, sort of the history

895
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: between those two and all the connective tissue there. Anthony

896
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: Fluffy Hernandez Daniel Cormier said on a hot microphone on

897
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: a live UFC telecas that that's his favorite fighter, as

898
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 4: watchable a guy as any in the sport. And I've

899
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 4: called Hamza Chimia the most electrifying force in the game.

900
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: So I'm glad they called my number in Houston, Texas.

901
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 4: But I'm just hopeful that we see Hamza, you know,

902
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: and that he has an appetite, no pun intendant for

903
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 4: fighting at eighty five.

904
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I think we will. I think that

905
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 6: that's the right weight class for him. Can he be

906
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 6: successful at two hundred and five pounds? I think there's

907
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 6: no question about that, just based on his elite wrestling

908
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 6: and grappling skill and his aggression in athleticism. I think

909
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 6: he showed something in that fight against Tricks duplus C

910
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 6: which we had not seen before, and that was time

911
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 6: management efficiency. You know, how well he just managed the

912
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 6: clock over the course of twenty five minutes, and still

913
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 6: I think stayed aggressive with his control and all that stuff.

914
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 6: So yeah, I hope he stays healthy. I hope we

915
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 6: can see him. I think either a fight against Trickland

916
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 6: obviously they have a history together that he used to

917
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 6: spar together and train together, and you know they have

918
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 6: words for each other. But also I mean a grappling

919
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 6: a grapple fest between him and Hernandez I think would

920
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 6: be sick. So yeah, I love both of those options.

921
00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 6: So we'll see.

922
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: Gosh. I just hope we get something, you know. And oh,

923
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: it's just hard because when Alex Paeda beats Maga mon

924
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 4: Akliev the way he does in that rematch, and then

925
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 4: he's pining for June fourteenth, he's pining for John Jones

926
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 4: certainly doesn't want to fight Hamza Chimayev. Right, not suggesting

927
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: that he wouldn't, but right, he wanted to fight Drinks

928
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: due plus c. I don't think he wants to fight

929
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 4: Hamza Chimayev. So you're eighty five pound champion wants to

930
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: fight your two hundred and five pound champion. Your two

931
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: hundred and five pound champion is not of an competitive

932
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: nature for that fight. He would like to fight John Jones,

933
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: who is not a champion, it's just a little bit

934
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 4: uh murky and uh yeah, yeah.

935
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 6: Well listen, I think that for Pereira, he feels that

936
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 6: he deserves a bigger name. And but I mean, both

937
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 6: of those fights are a huge numbered events. Both of

938
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 6: those we'll bring in a lot of eyeballs. I don't care,

939
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 6: you know, whether it's chimayav or John Jones or whatever.

940
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 6: I think that Pereira doesn't love the fact that there's

941
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 6: gonna be pressure on him going against the quote unquote

942
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 6: smaller guy, the one hundred and eighty five pound champion

943
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 6: of homs that Chimaya have not to mention a style

944
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 6: that could pose a lot of problems for him. But

945
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 6: you know, I think there's a lot more for him

946
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 6: to gain going against the legend and John Jones than

947
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 6: a very dangerous savage in homs ut Chi Maya.

948
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 4: All right, we'll see what happens. I just reminded Eddie Alvarez.

949
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: Hopefully he joins us here shortly. But I do think

950
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 4: that at some point soon we're going to get some news.

951
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: And you wonder if Kayla Harrison is holding out hope

952
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 4: that she could land on June fourteenth against Amanda Dunazer,

953
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 4: if that's way too ambitious. I don't know, you know,

954
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 4: Pantosian Joshua Van. Are they going to have Joshua Van

955
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: fight Tatsu retire menel Cop. So many unanswered questions and

956
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 4: so few undisputed titles on paper on the line right now.

957
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: I can never remember a time where there were so

958
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 4: few undisputed title fights locked in. I mean you are

959
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 4: about to get some news.

960
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Toporia supposedly is back training, right, that's good.

961
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's almost a lock. I mean, Justin

962
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 4: Gatchee is one of those consummate stars and stripes guys,

963
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: and the stars are going to align for that fight.

964
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 4: But beyond that, I just think the scope is so

965
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: broad as to what we could see on June fourteenth.

966
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 4: We'll take all your projections at anti floor iPod. So

967
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 4: it feels like asking you about Bad Bunny and the

968
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: halftime show at the super Bowl. See he's laughing already, Right,

969
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like a political question in

970
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 4: terms of your relative level of enjoyment. I think maybe

971
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 4: it could become that, right, And this is not necessarily

972
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 4: the place for that type of discourse, right, I'm sort

973
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 4: of looking at this for the pageantry and then understanding

974
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: just how the meaning in all of this is. But

975
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: I think all of us can lean into the only

976
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 4: thing more powerful than hate is love, right, I think

977
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: we can all lean into that and unity and what

978
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: he was trying to do. And it was a spectacle.

979
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 4: And there are a lot of artists who I'm not

980
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 4: saying any names, but they punt on this stage and

981
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: they don't sort of try to do something memorably spectacular,

982
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: right like the Weekend absolutely murdered it, crushed it, did

983
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: everything he could to maximize the showcase. And I still

984
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 4: talk about it to this day, and you know, people

985
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 4: are gonna be talking about this for a long time.

986
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: And I was sort of impressed by the overall pageantry

987
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 4: of it all. If I could say that before we

988
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: get to the game.

989
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't want I didn't watch the f Time show.

990
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 6: I was you know, I had a sick kid with

991
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 6: me and a bunch of stuff going on. But yeah,

992
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 6: you know, there was a lot. You know, ever so

993
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 6: much as being politicized now, right, I mean, everything's just

994
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 6: political and it gets a little tiring. But yeah, listen,

995
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 6: the message of unity, I think is one that we

996
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 6: need pretty bad, right, now it I don't know, I

997
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 6: don't know. It's a crazy time, dude, It's a crazy

998
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 6: crazy I don't remember a time grown up. And again

999
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 6: maybe I'm just ignorant to it. Of how you know,

1000
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 6: divisive the nation has been over the last few years,

1001
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 6: and maybe that's by design, but yeah, hopefully we can

1002
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 6: bring it together, you know.

1003
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: So Patriots put zero points on the board in the

1004
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: first half. By the way, congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks,

1005
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 4: to the head coach mister McDonald, and just a great

1006
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: group of players, an amazingly well rounded team. I think

1007
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 4: they're gonna be really hard to dethrone next year. To

1008
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: all the fan bases out there that are starved and

1009
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 4: whose teams have never gotten to a Super Bowl or

1010
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl, right, I think it was an

1011
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 4: important visualization, at least for me to watch my son,

1012
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 4: who's never experienced a Patriot Super Bowl win experience a

1013
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 4: Patriot Super Bowl loss, of which there have been a lot,

1014
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 4: you know, but perspective is key, and you know, so

1015
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: I celebrate Seattle, I think because I'm forty seven, But

1016
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: if I was seven, today would be a particularly hard day.

1017
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know, it was tough because there wasn't

1018
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 6: a whole lot of offensive firepower from either teams. Either

1019
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 6: team in the first half, and it was just kind

1020
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 6: of a slow moving game. It was about defense of

1021
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 6: course early and yeah, it took a lot for us

1022
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 6: to get going. But what do you think. What do

1023
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 6: you think of Drake May's, you know, admission that he

1024
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 6: had to get his shoulder injected, so it is an explanation.

1025
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 4: I think the Seattle pressure, I think would have been

1026
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: an issue regardless. I think they got to him so

1027
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 4: quick quickly on certain plays that maybe the shoulder would

1028
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 4: have been a non factor in part. But yeah, man,

1029
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 4: he is so accurate. He led the NFL and completion

1030
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 4: percentage and just left so many plays on the field.

1031
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 4: It wasn't a particularly memorable postseason for him in a

1032
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 4: good way. He dealt a lot of weather during this postseason,

1033
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 4: which I think is not going to be unique to

1034
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: his career as a New England Patriot. But yeah, I

1035
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 4: think all of the sort of pressure and praise goes

1036
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 4: with the quarterback and when you don't deliver. I think

1037
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 4: Chris collins Worth, the analyst, put it really well off

1038
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 4: the top of the show, like Drake May is going

1039
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 4: to have to be special for the Patriots to win

1040
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: this game. And you know, I'm the guy wearing a

1041
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 4: Will Campbell jersey and he's the guy responsible for protecting

1042
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 4: Drake May's backside and he failed to go so well.

1043
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 6: But I mean, you gotta be hopeful for next year though.

1044
00:55:59,640 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1045
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. And certainly Patriots fans young and

1046
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: old don't take for granted the presence of the team

1047
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl. But I try to explain to

1048
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 4: my son, hopefully in your lifetime or in the next

1049
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 4: fifteen years, they get back there, because if you don't

1050
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 4: get to the Super Bowl, you don't have a chance

1051
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: to win it, right, And Josh Allen has been the

1052
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 4: best player in football for a half a decade and

1053
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills haven't even gotten to that game with him.

1054
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 4: So you have to get to the super Bowl in

1055
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 4: order to win it. And then on that night, everything

1056
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 4: has to go really well and the opponent maybe is

1057
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 4: just going to be better. So I'm trying to explain

1058
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: to my seven year old son, like, let's hope they

1059
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 4: get back there. But if you ask me as a

1060
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 4: betting man, does Drake May get back to a Super Bowl?

1061
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 4: If I have to bet yes or no. Most people

1062
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: out there would say yes. I would say no, no,

1063
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 4: Kenny Wow. Well, so Patrick Mahomes right, forget Joe Burrow

1064
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 4: or Lamar Jackson or the aforementioned Josh Allen or or

1065
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson or Trevor Lawrence or Justin Herbert. Should I

1066
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 4: fucking go on? Because all those guys are quarterbacks in

1067
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Speaker 4: Drake May's conference in the AFC. Right, So I think

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Speaker 4: the Patriots have a great chance because of their head

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Speaker 4: coach Mike Rabel and how good Drake May projects to be,

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Speaker 4: to be in big moments in championship games. But it's

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Speaker 4: really hard to get to the Super Bowl. Man. You know,

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow has been once. How many Super Bowls has

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers played it? The most skilled player of that

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Speaker 4: position according to most? How many Super Bowls has Aaron

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Speaker 4: Rodgers played in?

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Speaker 2: One?

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Speaker 4: Won it, played in fucking won, played for twenty years,

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Speaker 4: played in one? So yeah, betting man and me says,

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Speaker 4: Drake May will never get back there. Cody's like, you're

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Speaker 4: an idiot, I understand, I understand.

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Speaker 6: Well, will we get used to Brady being there? You know,

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Speaker 6: he was there so many times? We think that that's

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Speaker 6: normal and it's absolutely not. That is a yeah.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, all right, well before we get out of here, Kenny,

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Speaker 4: nice job on the board at least, I mean seeing

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Speaker 4: the board. Well, I think you probably want to beat

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Speaker 4: Ian even more than you wanted to beat Brian on

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Speaker 4: the human being front, correct.

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, there's some motivation there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, that's a good way to put it.

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Speaker 6: Pull get a new guy on the team. I gotta

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Speaker 6: show him what's up, right, I'm the veteran.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Well, if you want to talk politics

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Speaker 4: next week, maybe we could do that, but maybe not.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you all for being with us for

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Speaker 4: the Power Hour today. Sorry, we had technical difficulties or

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Speaker 4: whatever trying to connect with the guests. Don't really know

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Speaker 4: what happened with Eddie Alvarez. We tried on multiple occasions,

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Speaker 4: but we will probably have a pack show next week

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Speaker 4: to make good on some of those. Don't forget to

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Speaker 4: subscribe to the Niconflorming podcast YouTube channel, and next week,

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Speaker 4: of course, we will look ahead to Houston, Texas, USA

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Speaker 4: and all the big things coming up on the UFC front.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to Cody Merrow, Thanks to Ray Longo for Kemp

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Speaker 4: flum John, and we'll talk to you next week. Until then,

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Speaker 4: be well you're later