1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Click yours up the Breakfast Club, 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: finish for y'all. Done morning everybody, it's the j n V. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Just hilarious. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Lola Roast 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: is here as well. We got a special guest in 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 3: the building. 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: Indeed, the intro you. 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Want to sing the intro, that's highway the. 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Ladies. 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: Welcome brother. 11 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: What's up young man? I'm great this morning. I feel good. 12 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: I feel good. It's good to be here, if you 13 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: don't mind me. Yeah, I'm fifty six. Something to look 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: forward to. 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you talking about absolutely How does it feel to 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: have one of the record that will never go away? 17 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: It plays in pop culture and hip hop and urban 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: and country and all types of things. Your record always 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: get played. Do you know when you did that record, 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 3: it was gonna that was that record? 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: It was going to be that way. 22 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: I knew we had something special. Like I go back 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: to college days and I knew that even long before 24 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: I was in the music business, Like I would go 25 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: to the fraternity parties or whatever, and any DJ that 26 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: was really doing this thing right around that, you know, 27 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 4: last call for alcohol, that last hour of the club, 28 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: that's when they would drop Slick Rick's Children's Story and 29 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 4: that was just already like a timeless record. But I 30 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 4: always said, even back then, if I ever get the 31 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: chance of getting music business, I'm gonna sing. 32 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Over that record. 33 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: So I did know that it was already a hit. 34 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: But the journey of taking that hit and then turning 35 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: it into a classic, you know what I'm saying. 36 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: I could not have known that, but that was what 37 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: the goal was. 38 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 5: Correct, Correct me if I'm wrong, because I was thinking 39 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: about it when they told me you was coming in. 40 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: You were You were def Jam's first R and B star, right, I. 41 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 4: Think they had Allison Well when you say R and 42 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: B stars, so they had Allison Williams was there. They 43 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 4: had Orange Juce Jones there, so they had some some 44 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: R and B stuff. Yeah, I mean we were the first. 45 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: Well not only were we the first I think successful 46 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: R and B like, we were there their first number 47 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: one record that def Jam had ever Yeah and. 48 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah wow, the first amazing. 49 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 5: But I did you know you think of depth Jay, 50 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 5: you think of its being a rap heavy label around 51 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 5: that time. You were even sampling one of their classic 52 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 5: rap records. 53 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and the cool thing though, even with that relationship 54 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 4: of doing the Slick Crick the Children's Story kind of pairing. 55 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: On my second album, me and Slickrick got together and 56 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: we did a song called I Like That was on 57 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: my second album, and we're friends to this to this day, 58 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: him and his wife and me and my wife. We all, 59 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: you know, do life together. 60 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: But tell us how you wrote that record in the 61 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: process of getting into the music industry, because you said 62 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: you were in college and you go to parties. What 63 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: made you say, you know what I want to do music? 64 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: Well that the making of that record right there was 65 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: literally like capturing atmosphere. So I would study guys like 66 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: Marvin Gay and the song like got to give it Up. 67 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: If you listen to that song, got to give it Up. 68 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: Even before Marvin starts singing, you hear crowd, you hear atmosphere. 69 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: You hear energy and all that is transformative in you know, 70 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: into music, especially when music was more analog than digital. 71 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 4: And so when you hear this is how we do 72 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: it before the song ever comes on, you hear a party, 73 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: because that's. 74 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: What we did. 75 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 4: I put people in the studio, put a microphone in there, 76 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 4: games some drinks, and they were all standing around having 77 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: a party and then you know, the engineers, we clicked 78 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: play and we captured the energy of the room before 79 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: the song ever ever kicked. 80 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 6: In actually the actual studio like live in the studio, like. 81 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: Live in the studio, they were just kind of we 82 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: just captured everything. The flirtation, the conversation, everything that was 83 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: happening is the undergirding of the track and the lyrics 84 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: of this is how we do it. So people don't 85 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: know it's more than hearing the record. They actually feel 86 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: that record, which is why you know, we're talking thirty 87 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: years almost thirty years later. 88 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 5: A record like that is a gift in a curse though, 89 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 5: right because you know, a record comes, it becomes such 90 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 5: so big in life, kind of overshine shines the rest 91 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: of your catalog. 92 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: Right in a way, it was a It was a 93 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: gift because it's around thirty years later. It was a 94 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: curse because it was the first record, and because it 95 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 4: was the first record, everybody always wants to put everything 96 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: up against that record, you know, and that was a 97 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: phenomenon record. And so even I've had records that have 98 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: probably sold more or that have done extremely well, everybody 99 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: always goes. 100 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: Back to that as the first was that record, They're well, 101 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: get it on tonight, They're good. 102 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: I had some records that did really probably not sold more, 103 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: but I mean as far as just some that has 104 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 4: some legs. I got records that have some legs to 105 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: them or whatever, but that record was so when Something 106 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: for the Honeys came out, uh, that was a song 107 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: that had some legs to it, but it could never 108 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 4: reach number one because it was like ten months later. 109 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: We're like, hey, this is the next single. 110 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: They're like, no, we're still playing this is how we 111 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: do it, and so station's, oh, but this is a 112 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: pretty cool thing that a lot of people don't know. 113 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: The reason why this is how we do it got 114 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: to be so big was because, you know, in the song, 115 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: I say, south Central does it like nobody does. I 116 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: remember coming to New York City getting with all the 117 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: Anti Martinez, Willie Williams all that I got to Hot 118 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: ninety seven and those stations or whatever, they're like, we 119 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 4: love you, we love depth CHANM, but we're not really 120 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: kind of playing that record because you know the whole 121 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: South Central thing. So I was like, okay, well let's 122 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: let's try and fix that. So we went into the 123 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: editing booth, and I re sang. 124 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: This is how we do it. But I said, ooh, 125 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: New York does it like nobody does? 126 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 4: And why I normally do you know, because I was 127 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: a rapper before I was singing, you know, I would 128 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: do it like this is how we do it is 129 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: Friday night, I feel all right, the parties with Angie Martinez. 130 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: So I reached for the old school and I turned 131 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: it up bunks. 132 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: Some flo and so I started throwing names into the 133 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: songs and change it to New York. And so when 134 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: I did that, now New York they're playing that song 135 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: every hour on the hour. And then DC here's in DC. 136 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 4: It's like, yo, we heard you did that in New York. 137 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 4: We want a DC version, we want a Philly version. 138 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: And so I ended up singing the song probably a 139 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: thousand times, just so that every station had their own 140 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: customized version of it. 141 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: So that is artist, don't put that kind of work 142 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: in the. 143 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 7: I was gonna say, you talked about you being a 144 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 7: rapper a little bit to get into that part of it. 145 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 7: Even in that song, you kind of have verses where 146 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 7: you're it's like you're singing it, but it's it's like 147 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 7: a like you're wrapping it like I reached, Like now 148 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 7: I understand kind of where that comes from. 149 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was Russell Simmons rap singer when I got 150 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: signed to Depth jat. That was one of the reasons 151 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: why I was documenting street life in Los Angeles and 152 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: I was finding ways to to you know, the r 153 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: Kelly's were out there, there were other artists out there. 154 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 4: The guy was out there, and you. 155 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: Know, I wanted to do the new Jack thing. I 156 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: wanted to. 157 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: I was a fan of Aaron Hall. I was a 158 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: fan of a lot of different things. But the only 159 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: way I was able to carve my own space into 160 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: who I would be musically was I had to take 161 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: rap lyrics and then I would sing them. So if 162 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: you were to look at this is how we do it, 163 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: and you say I reached for my forty and I 164 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: turn it up, designated driver, take the keys to my truck. 165 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: Like lyrically that the Dutch that that's like rap prose. 166 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 4: But that I would say designated driver, take the keys 167 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 4: to my truck and say designated driver. I take the 168 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: keys to my truck. And so I literally would write 169 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: rap lyrics my entire first album. I wrote rap lyrics 170 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: and then I figured out how to sing them. 171 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: I just love the fact that you you know, having 172 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: a designated driver back then. 173 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: Yah, that's what I'm saying. I was very conscious, very. 174 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: Responsible, and you went from R and B, you know, 175 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: superstar to past. 176 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: Like, what was the breaking point that made you step 177 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: away from the industry. I was brought up in church. 178 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: I was a church kid growing up, and so from 179 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: that standpoint, it wasn't like, you know, I had this great, 180 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: big epiphany and then you know, flew to the gospel. 181 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: It was like, literally I was brought up a church kid. 182 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: Mine and a lot of musicians and a lot of 183 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: artists have that training ground. It's like a farm league 184 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: almost for the music business where people are growing up, 185 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: they're listening. It's the difference between uh, you know, between 186 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 4: rhythm and blues and soul music. So is a little 187 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: more attached to feeling as opposed to just sonic hearing, 188 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: and so me going back into ministry wasn't like a oh, 189 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: I'm ready to do this. It was more of a 190 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: God move of saying, hey man, you've done it this 191 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: way for so long, you know, why don't you try 192 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: and do you know, try and do it my way 193 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: and give me the opportunity to show you that what 194 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: accolades and what verification and validation and I'm looking for 195 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: in man and in people that God's like, I've already 196 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: verified you, I've already validated you. 197 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: And so, you know, so I don't have to work 198 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: for God's grace. I'm working from his grace. 199 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: And by me stepping away to do ministry, I found 200 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: out who I was because, you know, in the music business, 201 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 4: I didn't know who I was outside of music. If 202 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: I'm not I don't have an album, if I'm not 203 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: on the charts, if people aren't playing them on the radio, 204 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: then who I am I? And so God was like, 205 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: you know, oh, I'm gracious enough to show you who 206 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: you are if you never pick up a mic again. 207 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: So it was during that time I found out, Man, 208 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: I'm a son and I'm a father, I'm a friend, 209 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: I'm a giver, I'm generous, I'm you know, I'm all 210 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 4: these different things. 211 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm a teacher, I'm. 212 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 4: A communicator, I'm a bunch of different that. If I 213 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: never pick up a microphone again, I found out who 214 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: I was, and I learned that, you know, music doesn't 215 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: define me. I define music. And I was like a pivotal, 216 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: you know, pivotal part for me to understand that music 217 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: doesn't define who I am. I define who music is. 218 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: And then that's when God says, Okay, now I can 219 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: trust you with music again, because now you know who 220 00:08:59,679 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: you are. 221 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, what did you find 222 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: in ministry that music couldn't give you? 223 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: And I guess it was just a sense of self. 224 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 4: What do I find in ministry the music couldn't give me? 225 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 4: I think that with music, I was in an abusive relationship. 226 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: I love something that couldn't love me back. And so literally, 227 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: you know, I would say, man, I love music so much. 228 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: I love music so much. I do it for free. 229 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: I love music, and music never loved me back. Even 230 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: when I was leaving music to go into ministry. Music 231 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 4: wasn't like no, monself, don't leave, we want you. 232 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: It was nothing. 233 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: It was just like Biden, you know what I'm so 234 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, cool, whatever, And so I learned 235 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: that God did love me and he did care about me, 236 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 4: and he was there, you. 237 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Know, in those spaces. 238 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: And so I think what I got from God is 239 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: I got someone and something that could love me back. 240 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: And then now I understand that music is something that 241 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 4: I can enjoy, I can appreciate, and I can create, 242 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 4: but it doesn't create me. 243 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: When you got into being a pastor, did you when 244 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: you went b performing, did you feel like I had 245 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: to take some lyrics out or had to change things 246 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: up or anything at all. 247 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: Or no, one hundred percent. 248 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: I literally, you know, the story goes of, you know, 249 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: when I left the music business, I literally I burnt 250 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: the plow, meaning I'm like, I'm not coming back. I 251 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 4: got all my instrumental tracks, I got rid of everything. 252 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: I was full ministry for like four or five years. 253 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: And during that time period, there was a promoter who 254 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: kept calling my wife like every single year, several times 255 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: a year. He would call it, Hey, I need Montel, 256 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: I need Mantel, I need my Tell And we didn't 257 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 4: even take dudes calls, like we are done with the 258 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 4: music business. And then about four years and she finally, 259 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 4: you know, takes my man's call. She's like, hey, you know, 260 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 4: kind of frustrated. 261 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: You know, what do you want? 262 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I need Montel for his concert. I 263 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 4: got Keith Sweat Silk, I got this whole big thing 264 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 4: and we need Montel and she's like, you know, Montell's retired. 265 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, yeah, I know, I'm following his career. 266 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 4: She was like, you know he's a minister. Here is 267 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: a pastor. Now He's like ya, yeah, yeah, I'm a 268 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: Christian too, I know that. And so she's like, well, 269 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 4: why do you keep calling in. He's like, cause my 270 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 4: shows are really dark and I need some light. 271 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Oh. When he drops that, now we have. 272 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 4: To circle back and we're like, okay, is there a 273 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: way that Well first it was like, okay, well, God, 274 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: you told me not to sing that song no more? 275 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 4: And God said, no, you told you not to sing 276 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: that song no more. 277 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: I never told you that. 278 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh my goodness, maybe it was me. 279 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: You know, I had to get rid of my own idol. 280 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 4: I had to sacrifice my own idol that I made it. 281 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: But God never told me not to sing that song anymore. 282 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: So I did have to say, Okay, what can I 283 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: sing and what can't I sing anymore? Can I get 284 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: people nostalgia without giving them something that compromises who I am? 285 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 4: And that was the journey of going back and finding 286 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 4: the songs that I could sing, changing some words, changing 287 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: some lyrics because I'm a changed man, and then that 288 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 4: became something that was acceptable and it's very welcomed actually 289 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: out not only for the audiences, but even like the 290 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 4: artists that I'm out on the road with. 291 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm like a pastor to the unpastored. 292 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: And a lot of spaces because I'm speaking truth and 293 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: I'm loving them and I'm out on the road with them. 294 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 4: I understand what they've been through. I've been doing this 295 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 4: for thirty years, you know what I'm saying, And so 296 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: I think that was part of the journey of Yeah, 297 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: I'm able to change lyrics. I'm able to customize something 298 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: quick story like when it comes to Let's Ride, I 299 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 4: do that. That was, you know, a pretty nasty song, Masterpiece, 300 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: Silk the Shocker, Strip Club Anthem, big big number one record, 301 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: you know, and I'll do that song, but I don't 302 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: really sing that song. I'll sing the first verse of 303 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 4: that song. I literally do about forty five seconds to 304 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: a minute of the song to instill nostalgia in people. 305 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 4: And then with master Piece, go I get to that 306 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: part of the song, like you know, write in the 307 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: verse and I go, oh, do that song a nomore 308 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 4: because it's nasty and the crowd laughs or whatever. And 309 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: now I'll tell them, yo, I told you I'm a 310 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: pastor no more, you know. But but but but I 311 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: can do this song. And then I just kind of shift. 312 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 4: So I'm giving them the song and just that much 313 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: makes them feel like they've heard the entire song. And 314 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 4: then you know, I keep it moving. I love that. 315 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 6: So so it was so did you feel guilty? 316 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: You felt guilty before. 317 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 6: You know, performing those songs, after you stepped away and 318 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 6: did ministry and they wanted you back when that promoter 319 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 6: called your wife. It was the fact that you would 320 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 6: feel guilty when you did the songs. Before I got 321 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 6: closer to God, I never. 322 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: Felt guilty, which is which is wild. I felt. 323 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: I maybe felt conflicted, but guilt, guilt is, I think 324 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: is a strong word. I felt like, I know I 325 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 4: love the Lord. I know I'm in you know, this 326 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 4: is before ministry. I know I love the Lord. I 327 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: know God's got me. I know He's given me a 328 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: lot of ideas and I took a lot of those 329 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 4: ideas and I made him more customizable for different audiences 330 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Uh, you know. And and from 331 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: that standpoint, I had to be two Montelles, if you will, 332 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 4: and it probably was three or four. You know, I 333 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: call it spiritual schizophrena. It was like, literally, and I'm 334 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: not making fun of any diagnosis. I'm saying that I 335 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 4: had to be different montell for different audiences. When I'm 336 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: home with my wife, that's one Montell. When I'm at 337 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 4: my church, that's a different Montel. When I'm with my 338 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 4: mom's that's a different Montelle. And so because of that, 339 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 4: I was trying to keep up with a bunch of 340 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 4: different persons now and so, yeah, I think I could 341 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 4: feel guilty from the standpoint of not being authentically who 342 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: I am, and ministry allowed me to step into a 343 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: space that is like, it doesn't matter if I am 344 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: on the breakfast club, it don't matter if I'm in church, 345 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: it don't matter if I'm with you know, in any setting, 346 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 4: I'm going to be the same Montel, authentically me all 347 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: the time. 348 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: And that's liberating. 349 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 5: So how do you reconcile to Monte Jordan who singing 350 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 5: about streaky stuff on the weekends with the Monte Jordan 351 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: who preachers on Sunday mornings. 352 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that dude had to die. 353 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: That guy had to die and I'm okay with that 354 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: because now who I am, it doesn't mean I can't 355 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: look back and show the world who I was. Even 356 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: in my shows. I do a ministry. I do ministry 357 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: during my shows. Anybody that goes to a Monto show, 358 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: I don't care people drinking, getting doing whatever they do 359 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: with the show. Whatever I am literally almost like comedically 360 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: weaving a story into I'm just going on and sing songs. 361 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: I'm communicating with the audience. We laugh and telling jokes, 362 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: and I'm talking to him, and I get to a 363 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: point in the show where I actually tell him, Hey, 364 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: you know, y'all know I'm a pastor. 365 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: Some of you don't know. And I let him know. 366 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: I said, hey, music is part of the soundtrack to 367 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: our lives. If you've got a good memory in your life, 368 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: there's probably a song attached to it. If you've got 369 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: a tragic moment in your life, there's probably some music 370 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: attached to it. And I said, what I'm doing is 371 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: I'm giving you nostalgia. But I'm also here to show 372 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 4: you what it looks like when God gets a hold 373 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: of a man's heart and then changes them and puts 374 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: them back in front of people with great influence and 375 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: people that know that there's something different about him, but 376 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: they don't quite know what it is. And I says, 377 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: Jesus that changed my life and transformed me and made 378 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: me a different person. And so in that audience, I'll 379 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: tell them. 380 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: So. 381 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: I know some of y'all don't do the God thing. 382 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: I know some of y'all don't do the church thing, 383 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: but I'm here to tell you that God loves you, 384 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: and God misses you, and God is not angry at you. 385 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: And even if you wouldn't come to a church, he 386 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: sent the nineties R and B artist to you wherever 387 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: you are to let you know that your life is 388 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: that valuable to him. And so I literally get the 389 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: minister in every space that I go to, and people 390 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: will get an encounter with God not even expecting. You know, 391 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: I just came to hear you know, color me bad 392 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: saying I want to sex you up, and Mantell's in 393 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: there talking about Jesus. Wow, how did that happen? 394 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 6: You know, it's unassuming, and you never know how many 395 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 6: people will actually go to him. Correct I will follow 396 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 6: that at work, because that's what he wants. 397 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: Acknowledge me. 398 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: Every now and then just I get a God kiss 399 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 4: where somebody will pop in the DM and they'll be like, yo, 400 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: you were talking to me last night, and man, God, 401 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: you know, pray for me and for my daughter or 402 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: this antity other. So you know, I'm I'm I'm pastoring, 403 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: but I'm just outside the four walls of the church. 404 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: I just I'm on the expansion program as an artist. 405 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: Being tall. 406 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: Hindry you But I remember I promised to Teddy Rolly 407 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 5: to me a long time ago, Teddy Rolly said there's 408 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: no such thing as a tall superstar in industry. 409 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: To think about it. 410 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, now I think it's uh, you know the six 411 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: eighties stood has allowed me to to stand out, you know, 412 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: head and shoulders above. I think in Guinness, I was like, 413 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: in the Guinness Book of World because at what time 414 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: for the tallest R and B sing or tallest with 415 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 4: the number one record? 416 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 3: I can't see nobody taller. 417 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: Told me that years ago. 418 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: He was like, yo, you guys, he's like nouch thing 419 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 5: as a tall superstar. I'm like, snoop Jesus, like those 420 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 5: are exceptions to the rules. 421 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: A long time Yeah, yeah, tall, you know, other than 422 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: shopping off the rack, you know, height height has been 423 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: in that, you know, advantaged for me. 424 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: And you've been married for how long? Thirty two years? 425 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: Graduations? 426 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Congratulations the same moment. 427 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 5: So I'm twenty four, what you I build my wife 428 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 5: for twenty seven, we've been married for eleven twenty four. 429 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: So long with that you were young kids. He's like, man, 430 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: it was kids for like ten or fifteen. 431 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 4: Kids? 432 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: You know now even no God wanted that. 433 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 5: But but what what was the secret sauce to keeping 434 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 5: that bond alive, especially in the industry that each relationships. 435 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think recognizing that that marriage wasn't something 436 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: that humans created. I think marriage is something that God 437 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: created meant it's meant to be a covenant. And a 438 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 4: lot of people go in to marriage with an exit 439 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 4: strategy as opposed to having an eternal strategy. They go 440 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: in thinking, well, if this doesn't work, then i'll and 441 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: that automatically is to set up for the enemy to 442 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: be able to know what you're then I'll I'll do 443 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 4: this or I'll do that. That's the strategy that the 444 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 4: enemy will use to take out your marriage. And so 445 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: we know that we are going to be married to 446 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: each other forever. We're gonna make it the best forever possible. 447 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: We're gonna be happy. We got family legacy on the 448 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: line here. And by doing that, I recognize that our 449 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 4: marriage ain't just for us. Our marriage is for other 450 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 4: people to be able to see and be like, man, 451 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 4: if they can do it, they can do thirty something 452 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 4: years and still be grabbing each other's butts in the 453 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: elevator and still you know, excited about each other. Whatever, 454 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: it can be done. A lot of people don't want 455 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: to get married or or they're kind of shy away 456 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 4: from it simply because they don't recognize or see enough 457 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 4: that it can be done. And so that's what we're doing. 458 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: We want to be an example, uh to we help 459 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: a public marriage is hell in private. So a lot 460 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 4: of couples when they go into you know, some challenges 461 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 4: or this or that. We have a spot called the 462 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 4: Jordan River down in Atlanta, UH and we take we 463 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 4: provide marriage and family therapy, but licensed marriage and family. 464 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: Therapists, private chefs, all of that. 465 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 4: They get a chance to come in and uh, you know, 466 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: they can go to montel and Kristen dot com or 467 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 4: or go to Marriage Masterpiece dot com p E a 468 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: c E. UH If people need help with their marriages. 469 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 4: But uh, you know that's that's something that we do 470 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: to keep us. It keeps us tight together because we 471 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: recognize other couples needed God bless. 472 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, how was that mixing like with the pros and 473 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 5: cons of mixing the marriage with the business, that. 474 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: Was hell. 475 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: Became a path, you know, it was. 476 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 4: You know, it was one of those things where you know, 477 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 4: the label had come in and in order to to 478 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 4: help be successful, they were like, well, montell if nobody's 479 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 4: gonna want an unavailable, married R and B artist, you know, 480 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 4: you gotta understand. You know we're talking ninety five, ninety four, 481 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 4: ninety five. You know, if you're not available, they're not 482 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 4: gonna want you. And I would always heard that if 483 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: you want to be successful in the music business, guys 484 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: have to want to be be you and women have 485 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: to want to be with you. If you can do 486 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: those things and you could be successful. And so I 487 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: had to keep the persona that I was this single 488 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: available R and B artist and for her being in 489 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: depth chairman and then you know one sixty varick those 490 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: days being in that building was a that was a 491 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: tough building to be in. And she's a woman manager 492 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 4: or whatever, and it was like, well, if you are 493 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 4: the wife, then people are not gonna respect you. So 494 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: as opposed to being Kristin Jordan, she was Kristin Hudson 495 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: and she was the manager. And being the manager is 496 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: tough because it's kind of like is the manager telling 497 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 4: the artists what to do? Or is the artist telling 498 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: the manager? What? 499 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: What do we do? 500 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: And then when we're not artist and manager and then 501 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 4: we go home because remember there's different Montelles at that time. 502 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 4: There's Montela artist and then there's Montela husband, and Montola 503 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: artist takes president you know, takes presence over Montela husband 504 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: when we get home, like then what does that look like? 505 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: How do we submit to each other? How do we 506 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: you know? 507 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 4: And so it was that was it was very, very tough, 508 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: and so at some point something else had to die, 509 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: and in that my artistry and her manage managerial capacity, 510 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: all those things had to die in order for our 511 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: marriage to live. Because whatever you feed grows, right, and 512 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 4: so if we're feeding the industry side of us, that 513 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 4: thing was was crazy. She was managing doing fantastic, I'm 514 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: doing my artist thing, and we hemorrhage in at home. 515 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 4: We're bleeding out, you know, and so we had to 516 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 4: figure out what we wanted to live and what we wanted. 517 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: To, you know, to sacrifice. 518 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: Now, one thing that I think makes me nervous and 519 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: don't make Churelomain nervous, you would diagnose with prostate cancer. Yeah, 520 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: that's something that I think we started. And this was 521 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: a great thing. We started early, checking everything. I mean, 522 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: we didn't went to damn near every skin you could 523 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: possibly imagine, because I have six hes four we want 524 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 3: to make sure we did as long as possible. 525 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: He would get his probably check like every week just 526 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: for fun with the same where I work at. 527 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: But were you sick? 528 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: Was it just a test or how did you how 529 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: did you find out? 530 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 531 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: Never sick, never sick, never felt sick. Literally about when 532 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 4: I was in my early forties is when I started 533 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 4: going to get to get checked. And uh, you know 534 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 4: the whole taboo thing about the rectal check, you know, 535 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: the finger check and then the blood check. Even when 536 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: I was diagnosed, it wasn't rectal check that found anything. 537 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 4: It was really in my blood from the ten years 538 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 4: of getting blood checks, you know, I could see ten 539 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 4: years ago it's like my PSA was like three point one. 540 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: It was three point three and three point nine, four 541 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 4: point two, four point five, four point six, five point one, 542 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: and then it was kind of like oh, okay, and 543 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 4: then we go from five point one to six point 544 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: one was like oh and then So it was the 545 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 4: journey of looking at my blood at that PSA levels 546 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: because I had a history because of early detection. Because 547 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: of that, it allowed me to when I did get diagnosed, 548 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: it allowed me to have options because they caught it early, 549 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 4: and prostate cancer is ninety nine percent treatable when caught early. 550 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: They have almost one hundred percent success rate of treating 551 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: it if it's caught early enough. But a lot of men, 552 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: particularly disproportionately Black men, do not go and they do 553 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: not get checked, and because of that, they normally are 554 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 4: finding out too late in the process. What made you 555 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 4: decide to share it publicly instead of keeping it private 556 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: as a god thing that's one hundred percent of God there, 557 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: because it is very private, very personal, And I think 558 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: part of it was what they call a holy discontent, 559 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 4: that thing that just makes it something difficult, you can't. 560 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Sleep at night. 561 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 4: It was like I watched when chat with Bozman, It 562 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: wasn't I don't think prostate cancer. But when chat with 563 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 4: Boseman passed. 564 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: Away, I was like, what is that? 565 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 4: Like? How do you do all the movies? How do 566 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: you do all those things? And nobody know? Like, nobody 567 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 4: can tell me nothing you know about that? And then 568 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: when I got diagnosed, I didn't have a template. I 569 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: didn't have anybody that I could look at that was 570 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: telling you know, that was telling the story to be 571 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: able to say, Okay, when you get diagnosed, do this, 572 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 4: or even though it's not cancer, not the same for everybody, 573 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: but when this happens, here are the steps you know 574 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 4: that you can take. I couldn't. I couldn't find nobody. 575 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 4: And so even right after we got diagnosed, my wife 576 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: and I felt like we had the Lord said to us, 577 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 4: film it, tell everything, film it, And so we started 578 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 4: filming this documentary that eventually be called Sustained. I'll tell 579 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: you more about that in the moment. But this movie, 580 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 4: this film, in this documentary is literally us telling this 581 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 4: entire story from diagnosis all the way up through how 582 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 4: we vetted doctors, how we vet vetted treatments, what we 583 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: chose to do, how I chose to have a radical 584 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: protecting me surgery and have my prostate removed November fifth 585 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four, election day, and from that process, 586 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 4: the journey afterwards, how I got clear margins, and how 587 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 4: that journey is and what it is today with a 588 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: ric currents or remergence of cancer, which is I would 589 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: love to be here telling the story about, Yeah, I 590 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 4: got prostate cancer, I beat it. 591 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm on the other side of it. I'm actually right 592 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: not in the mud, you know what I'm saying of 593 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: this thing right now. And I know I'm good. 594 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 4: I know God's got me. I know my wife's got me, 595 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: my family, my children, my grandchildren, like I know that 596 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: I am good. I got great organizations like zero zero 597 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 4: Prostate Cancer who I've come along with. They're trying to 598 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: help one hundred thousand men be saved from this prostate 599 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: cancer and in that journey. And I do want to 600 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: say this because they're part of you know the reason 601 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: why I'm here to talk about all this, But people 602 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: that need to get screened. I'm want to encourage the wives, 603 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 4: the mothers, the sisters, the aunts, the daughters out there, 604 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 4: the men in your life need to be checked. They 605 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: need to be screened. It not a it's not a game. 606 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 4: It's not something you wanna, you wanna, you want to 607 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 4: play around with. And I know they can go uh 608 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 4: to zero cancer dot org slash September because this is 609 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: officially Prostate cancer Awareness Month. 610 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: I hope I got that, uh that information right. 611 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 4: But in my diagnosis and in the journey that I'm 612 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 4: in right now, and to think of it, I don't 613 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: want to tell. But if I don't tell, I don't 614 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: know who else is gonna say it. I've watched and 615 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: I watched Dwayne Wiggins from Tony Tony tom at bladder 616 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: cancer and he died. 617 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what his story is. I don't know 618 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: if he got diagnosed. I don't know if he got treated. 619 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 620 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: I don't know anything about that. The world heard, oh, 621 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 4: Rennie Moss has liver cancer, uh, and it was like 622 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 4: somebody leaked it and then he had it or he's 623 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: fine from it now. And then they had a week 624 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: in the NFL where they wore Moss cancer jerseys. But 625 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: I don't know how he told his wife. I don't 626 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 4: know what what his kids navigated through. 627 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 628 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 4: I don't know anything when it comes to d Wade 629 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: you know, with kidney cancer. I think he's got sixty 630 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: percent of his kidney. I don't know what him and 631 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: Gabrielle went through. I don't know how he told his 632 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: kids or his family. Like, there's not enough data for 633 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 4: me to make the right type of decisions in the 634 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 4: thought processes that go behind any cancer, and in particular 635 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: prostate cancer, which is treatable, there's not a template there. 636 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: So I'm the template. Now, I'm the template. So I'm 637 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: partnering with zero and I'm telling the I'm snitching. I'm 638 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: telling everything that I can. You know about this, about 639 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 4: this process from diagnosis to when I'm crying and snotting, 640 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: and when I'm shaking my fist at God and when 641 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: I'm thanking God for life, all of these bits and pieces. Man, 642 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: I'm capturing it all. And this is the crazy thing though. 643 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 4: Last year, from diagnosis up to surgery, I'm out on 644 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: the road. I'm singing, I'm performing. I'm doing all these shows, 645 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: all these concerts, and all the money that I'm earning 646 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 4: to do this, I'm gathering it so I can tell 647 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 4: a story about cancer. I got cancer, and I'm working 648 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: to tell a story about how I'm going to defeat cancer. 649 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 4: And so now even on the other side thinking now 650 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: I'm about to do this documentary, Sustain you go to 651 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 4: sustain themovie dot com and help partner with us to 652 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 4: help take some of this load off of me because 653 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: me and my wife we've been carrying this thing for 654 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 4: a year and a half. 655 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: Now you know, it's been completely you know, on us. 656 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: And now I'm still you know, I've got film, I 657 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 4: got people with me because now it's that this reemergence 658 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: of whatever is back. 659 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: I got to continue this story. Thank you for sharing 660 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: your story. 661 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: First, thank you so much because there's so many brothers. 662 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, cut, there's so many brothers that have so 663 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: many questions and a lot of times we don't have 664 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: anybody to talk to, right, there is nobody. We say 665 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: this all the time. You never go to the barber 666 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: shop and you be like, hey, what's your prostate? Like 667 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Right, you don't talk about things. 668 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: Like that, you know what I mean. But we don't 669 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: have those conversations about health. 670 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: To the fact, dude, though we don't say what's your proty? 671 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: No, we don't know. 672 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: We don't do that. 673 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: We're doing the radio, but in the barbershop. That wasn't 674 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: a common conversation. We have conversations about We have a conversations. 675 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: I've done more funerals the past years than weddings, God damn. 676 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: And not just funerals of people that people don't know, 677 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: like known people like I was there for Bismarque, I 678 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 4: was a bis Marquis feuderal. I was there for DJ 679 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: mister see you eulogized DJ mister Selwan Hall, like I 680 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: was there the night that Fat Man's school. 681 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 682 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: I was in the hospital up in Connecticut, Like somehow 683 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: I'm around this and these ain't like seventy eighty ninety year. 684 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: Old men, these dudes in theties, early sixties. And so 685 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: there's a problem with that. 686 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: Not just in the hip hop and the urban there's 687 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 4: a problem in the community, especially in the African American community, 688 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 4: black community, where which is twice likely you know what 689 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: I'm saying for people to not survive from this because 690 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 4: of the not getting checked and because not having conversations 691 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 4: about it. 692 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: How do they come back If you got your proce 693 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: they removed though had it removed. 694 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 4: Normally, when you have your prostate removed, your PSA levels 695 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 4: was supposed to go to zero. My PSA level did 696 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 4: not go to zero. It went to like one point something, 697 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 4: and it was kind of like, well, sometimes it takes 698 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks for it to go down, and 699 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 4: so it did go down after a couple of weeks 700 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: or one point nine, one point seven, a couple months 701 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: one point five. I'm thinking that's cool or whatever, but 702 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: actually that's not what the case is. It just is 703 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: a situation where even though the prostate was removed and 704 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: everything seemed like it was isolated and confined in the prostate, 705 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: there were some bad actors that had probably you know, 706 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 4: like I said, when I got diagnosed, it was early 707 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: first stage gleas and six prostate cancer. When they pulled 708 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 4: it out and they biaps it, it was like, oh, 709 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 4: it's like stage two aggressive state cancer. And so, you 710 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, them little dudes, I got they fighters, 711 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: and so they apparently, you know what I'm saying, wanted 712 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: to try and. 713 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: Hide out or whatever. 714 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: But because I still get screenings and I still go 715 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: through my regular checkups or whatever, I was able to detect, hey, 716 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 4: there's something in your lymp nodes and something kind of 717 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: in the prostate bed, those things will need to be there. 718 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: You need to go for some more treat. 719 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: To go, guys. 720 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 7: So if you have to go spec Yeah, I saw 721 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 7: that you are going to begin radiation. 722 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 723 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 7: Or would you be documenting that process too and talking 724 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 7: people through that, because that's also fear two. Once people 725 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 7: are diagnosed 're scared of the treatment. 726 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 727 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to, but I feel like I have to. 728 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: So I'll be going through proton therapy in Atlanta. It's 729 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 4: seven and a half weeks, thirty seven treatments, which is 730 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 4: like five days a week, an hour a day going 731 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 4: in and getting a very targeted form of radiation on 732 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 4: my limp nose and in my prostate bed. And I'm 733 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 4: not radioactive, but nothing afterwards. It's all that radiation is 734 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 4: taking place when the machine is on. And don't want 735 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: to do it, but that's that's how I get cancer. 736 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: I am a cancer survivor, but I didn't know there 737 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 4: was such thing as a two time cancer survivor. So 738 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: now it's like, you know what I'm saying, this is 739 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: the second bout and I want it to be the 740 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 4: last one. 741 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 6: Too quick, all right, real quick, because I haven't asked 742 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 6: anything about this yet. Okay, So to Envy's point, no, 743 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 6: guys don't usually talk about it, right, Like my dad 744 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 6: he is like he knows something is wrong, but he 745 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 6: don't know how to relate it to his kids. Okay, 746 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 6: So like, how do you, like, how did you tell 747 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 6: your wife? How do you tell your other family members? 748 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 4: That's thank you for ask asking that question. Hearing it 749 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: for the first time for myself, you know, just me 750 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: and the doctor. That was hard enough because I'm trying 751 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 4: to figure out how how do I tell myself first 752 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: of all. Then from there there's also this thing that 753 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: you realize, Okay, I've got this. You know, cancer doesn't 754 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: have me, but I've got cancer. Now in this process 755 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 4: when I start to share it, do I give cancer 756 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 4: to other people? 757 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: Meaning? 758 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 4: Do they now carry the weight of what I'm caring? 759 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 4: So in telling my wife, I became freer because I 760 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: now got somebody to take this journey with me, and 761 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 4: a lot of people don't have that. But I gotta, 762 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I got a g riding 763 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 4: beside me to help me do that. But then even 764 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 4: though after I told her, it took us about five 765 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 4: months that it was just us not knowing who to tell, 766 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 4: who to share it with, because we didn't want them 767 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: to have to carry the weight of that as well. 768 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: And so eventually we told my son, my oldest son, 769 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 4: and then my oldest son was like, Yo, you gotta 770 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 4: tell my brother's and sister. You got you gotta tell everybody. 771 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 4: I told everybody. I had a twelve year daughter at 772 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: the time. She's the last one. You know what I'm saying, 773 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 4: How do I tell her? 774 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: Which is a put that weight on it? She has 775 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: school old you know, how do you tell her. 776 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: Who also lost her grandfather to cancer the year before 777 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 4: a different form of cancer cancer, And so now how 778 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: do I make cancer palatable for a twelve year old? 779 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: I don't got a rule book for that, there's no template. 780 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 4: So I become the template. And it's another story for 781 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 4: another to help you'all. Have me come back so I 782 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: can tell you how I told my twelve year old 783 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: because it's hilarious. But in that process of telling them 784 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: and then letting more people know and more people know 785 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 4: that we're just in our insulated circle of influence. 786 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: Those are the people that were going to be our 787 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: tribe to help us. 788 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: Because everybody don't need to know, because everybody ain't praying 789 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 4: for your health, and everybody don't want to see you win. 790 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 4: Everybody don't want to see you healthy. I know it's 791 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: going to be tons of people that are ah this 792 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: or that, and you know, but I can silence all 793 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: that noise because I knew who I am. And in 794 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 4: this process, I'm telling my story because it's important for 795 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: you and for your dad. Yes, I'm telling me, and 796 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: I don't even know what your dad is going through, 797 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 4: but it's important that your dad knows that montell the 798 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 4: artist of millions selling this or that the other it's saying. 799 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 4: It's saying, please go and get yourself or share, or 800 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: just tell your key or tell tell them, tell them 801 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 4: because they're stronger than you think, right, And it would 802 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 4: be worse for you not to know and then be wondering, oh, 803 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: what happened? Oh you know they kept this to themselves. 804 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 4: It would be selfish, and I understand the reason why. 805 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: But like I said, this is kind of where I 806 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 4: am now, and and I had to ask permission for 807 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 4: my kids, uh to be able to go and publicly 808 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 4: start sharing this story in the mud in the middle 809 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: of the story, simply because it's personal to them, like, yo, 810 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 4: you know, Dad, we appreciate that you sharing this with 811 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 4: the whole world. You could save other people's lives and 812 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 4: get men checked and. 813 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: This or that the other. 814 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 4: But you're our dad, you know, you're our dad, and 815 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 4: we want to we want to keep this, you know, personal. 816 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 4: But they understand. They've allowed me to share my music, 817 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 4: They've allowed me to share ministry, and now they allow 818 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: me to share my medical journey with the world. And 819 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't have done it without their their coson 820 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: to be able to say, yeah, Dad, you know, you 821 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 4: say people's lives through music, You saved people's souls through ministry, 822 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 4: and now you can you can do this too. 823 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: My last question, I know you got to go. You 824 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: talk about God's plan in your life. 825 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 5: How was your faith specifically guiding you during this, you know, 826 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 5: stage of your life, the treatment, recovery to rediagnosis everything. 827 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 4: I'm unshakable. I'm unshakable. I recognize that I know where 828 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 4: my soul rest in this. I know that this earthly 829 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 4: journey is one that my story is not done being told. 830 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 4: So from that standpoint, all I can do is look 831 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 4: and be grateful of how good God has been to 832 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 4: my life and and listen, it ain't just words, like 833 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 4: you should be able to feel being in my presence 834 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 4: the same way I'm with y'all. 835 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: You can feel that. 836 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 4: I know without shadow it out, how good God is 837 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 4: to me and to some of y'all in the journeys 838 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 4: that you've been through, that that He's kept you. And 839 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 4: so that's the that's the foundational piece that has me 840 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 4: rooted and grounded that I already know. I know God's 841 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: gonna heal me, and I know he could do a 842 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 4: supernatural I know he can do it through doctors, through medicines, 843 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 4: he can do it through treatments. He can do it 844 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 4: however you want to do it. If it was up 845 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 4: to me, I'd be like, God, you know I'm one 846 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 4: of your favorites, you know, just you know, just get 847 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 4: it over with so I can just be able to 848 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 4: tell the whole world. Yo, Jesus healed me supernaturally, and 849 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 4: that's not the story that he gave me. He said, 850 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do it that way. I was like, well, Lord, 851 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 4: let me just get through it and come on the 852 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 4: other side so I can be able to say, Hey, 853 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 4: I had it, I did this, and God brought me 854 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 4: through through doctors and technology, and now I'm on the 855 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: other side of it. And I would have loved that testimony, 856 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 4: and God said, no, you're not going to get it 857 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 4: that way either. And so in this journey that I'm 858 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 4: on right now, I'm great. I'm really really grateful to 859 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: be with you all today. It's like, because I'm not 860 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 4: on the other side of it, I'm right in the 861 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 4: mix of it. And I want people to see that 862 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 4: God ain't just on the other side of it. He's 863 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 4: right with me in the mix of it. So while 864 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 4: I'm in the midst of it, God is with me, 865 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: and he's not waiting for me on the other side 866 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 4: to come through like he's with me. 867 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: In the midst of it. And so from that standpoint, 868 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: that's where I can walk with an authority. I can 869 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: walk with boldness. 870 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 4: I can walk in the place with my family, I 871 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 4: can walk with zero with zero prostate cancer, and I 872 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 4: can tell the story because they're giving me a platform, 873 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, to be able to share 874 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 4: in these spaces where my R and B or pastoral 875 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 4: voice may not have the reach that it could have. 876 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 4: Partnerships and things like that allow us to be able 877 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 4: to save some lives. This ain't there's no money grab here. 878 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 4: This is literally I'm trying to grab your pops. I'm 879 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 4: trying to get your dad. I'm trying to get your uncles. 880 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 4: I'm trying to get your brothers. I'm trying to get 881 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 4: your husband's I'm trying to tell them if you thought 882 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 4: Montel Jordan was cool, or you liked his music, or 883 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 4: you you thought he might have had, you know, brought something. 884 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: To the game. 885 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 4: Now I'm bringing this to the game, and I'm saying 886 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 4: it's important for you to not leave a legacy of 887 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 4: your family of secrets and of death and of misinformation 888 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 4: and of neglect. Don't neglect your family, don't neglect your body. 889 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 4: Find out what's going on. And you know, because people said, 890 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 4: I just rather not know. No, No, that's that's that's 891 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 4: incredibly ignorant to not want to know what's going on 892 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 4: in your body, especially when it comes to prostate cancer, 893 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 4: because and I keep saying this, man, it's treatable when caught. 894 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: Early, So why not catch it early before it catches you? 895 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 5: You like you just got another ministry brother music and 896 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 5: appreciating Now you know you're going through all of this 897 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 5: just to have another ministry. 898 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 4: Well, I didn't want this one. But that's why God 899 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 4: can trust me with it, though, and trust me with this. 900 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 4: I don't want this. I don't want to tell the story. 901 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 4: I do not want to be the one to tell 902 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 4: this story. And that's why God says, Great. So I 903 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 4: know that, you know, you'll do whatever you have to say, 904 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 4: and do you do what you have to do. You'll 905 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 4: say what you have to say because I know it's 906 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 4: not something that that I want the accolades for. It's 907 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 4: a lot to come along with prostate cancer, you know 908 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, That journey or whatever and the stigmas 909 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 4: and the stuff that comes along with that. It's very personal. 910 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 4: But from that standpoint, you know, I got a lot 911 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 4: to share, a lot to talk about. A lot of 912 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 4: it will be in that documentary. Like I said, I 913 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 4: can't you know, I'm I'm the shameless plug. I need 914 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 4: help stainthmovie dot com. That's a space where people can 915 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 4: partner and be a part of coming to help us 916 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 4: get this documentity told and get your names on the credits, 917 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 4: on the screen and all that type of stuff. I 918 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 4: got to get the story told and I'm either gonna 919 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 4: tell it because people are helping sustain themovie dotmovie dot 920 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 4: com and make sure you lie go on and donate. 921 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 3: But we need to close out with a prayer of them. 922 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, absolutely all right. God, thank you, Thank you 923 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 4: for your sons and your daughters. I think you that 924 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 4: you have given them this space and this voice to 925 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 4: be able to speak to this generation. 926 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: God. 927 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 4: I pray over their lives. I pray with their health. 928 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 4: I pray over their strength. I pray over their families. 929 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 4: I pray over their marriages. I pray over the future marriages. 930 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 4: I pray over their children and their grandchildren. God, I 931 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 4: pray that what they speak, even as they entertain, Father, 932 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 4: that at the heart of what they do, that somehow 933 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 4: somebody would hear what they say and it always points 934 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 4: back to you, Father, no matter what they are navigating 935 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 4: through personally, I pray that you would be there with them. 936 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 4: Let them know you're not on the other side waiting 937 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 4: for them. That if they've received you as Lord, and 938 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 4: that you are there with them in the trenches in 939 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 4: the good days, you're with them. In the bad days, 940 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 4: you're with them. And I thank you for the breakfast Club. 941 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 4: I thank you for this space, and I thank you 942 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 4: for this platform. I thank you for my life, and 943 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 4: for my wife, and for my children and my grandchildren. 944 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 4: I thank you for everybody under the sound of my 945 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 4: voice that you know you've heard Monsel, but you weren't 946 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 4: here in Montell you were hearing the Lord speak to 947 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 4: you today. To be able to say, your life matters, 948 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 4: your soul matters, and more than your soul mattering in heaven, 949 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 4: which is extremely important, your life here on earth matters. 950 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 4: And so do something to make sure you're preserving your 951 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 4: life here in this earth so that the beautiful things 952 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 4: that we get to listen to and experience. God, you 953 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 4: are the one that allowed that to happen, and we 954 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 4: just thank you for this opportunity. We praise you in 955 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 4: Jesus name. 956 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 3: Amen, Amen Montel Jordan. Ladies and gentlemen, that's the breakfast club. 957 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: Good morning. Thank you so much. 958 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 5: Every day a wait clicks up the breakfast Club, you 959 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 5: don't finish for y'all done.