1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: The season is finally here and welcome to Giants' Hangouts. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: It's Week one Hangouts presented by crest On. My name 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: is Madeline Burke, joined as always by Brandon London, Russ Salzburg, 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: and Matt Sietek. Guy's got a lot of excitement on 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: the dock at the Giants play an NFL game on 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, heading to Washington to face the Commanders. But 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: before we get into the Week one specifics, let's look 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: at the season as a whole that lies in front 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: of us. The twenty twenty five season is a blank canvas, 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: so I want to start with some season predictions. Let's 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: get a little over under action going, starting with Maleik Neighbors. Brandon, 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to you first on this one. Malik 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Neighbors over under thirteen hundred receiving yards and for contacts 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: last year he had one thy two hundred four. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go under on this one. And 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: it's not because I think that this kid's not going 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: to be a dog and have a heck of a season. 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: I just feel as though that now that the Giants 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: have some consistency and quarterback play, the ball is going. 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: To be distributed to other guy. 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: So I feel like although Malik's numbers may go down, 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: you might see a rise in the numbers in the 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Wandale Robinson's, Darius Slayton's, then THEO Johnson's as well. 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 4: Russ I concur with Brandon, I was gonna say the 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 4: exact same thing. While I think Malik is gonna have 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: himself a very good year, I do think the number 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: very well could be lower than it was last year, 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 4: simply because other guys are going to get involved, not 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: just the Wandol Robinson's, let's say, or the Darius Slayton's, 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 4: but THEO Johnson. I think we're going to see some action, 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: a lot of production out of our. 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 5: Out of the time. 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll be spreading. So I believe it's under for Malik. 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 5: All right, Sietek, what do you think. 35 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 7: I guess I'll be the contrarian here. I'm gonna go 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 7: over simply because you look at his numbers last year. 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 7: Malik at one hundred and seventy targets one seven year, 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 7: that was top five in the NFL. If some of 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 7: those passes this year are just more catchable balls, he's 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 7: going to clear third teen hundred with no issues whatsoever. 41 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 7: So I'm going over for Malik. 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: I think it's also interesting to remember that Malik only 43 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: played in fifteen games last season, So twelve hundred plus 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: yards in fifteen games. 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit the over as well. I'm with you 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 5: on that, Matt. Plus, he had four different quarterbacks throwing 47 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 5: him the ball last season. 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: This year, I think the consistency is going to be 49 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: great for his numbers. All right, next one, we're going 50 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: Abdul Carter, the rookie. We know he has come out 51 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: and said he doesn't want to cut his hair until 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: he gets his first sack. Over under seven and a 53 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: half sacks from Abdul Carter quickly, Russ. 54 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 6: You know what, I'm going to go with the over. 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: But I just think he's going to be a dom 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 4: If he's a he might very well be the defensive 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 4: rookie of the year. I just think he's going to 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: be a dominant player. He's going to be an impact 59 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 4: player from Game one, which is this week in Washington. 60 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: If he gets the over, fine, if not, he's still 61 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 4: going to have a stellar season. 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 6: But I'm going to go over Matt. 63 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 7: I'm going to go over as well. You know, I 64 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 7: think if he hits eight sacks, I think he would 65 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 7: tie the rookie Giants record for sacks in a season. 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 7: But just based on what we saw on training camp, 67 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 7: the guy is so explosive, I don't think it's gonna 68 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 7: be long before he's hitting double digit sacks on a 69 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 7: yearly basis. So seven point five over. 70 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Brandon, I gotta go under on this one. You know, 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: when I was a kid, my dad used to always 72 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: tell me, I'm like Missouri to show me state and 73 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: until the Giants show that they can stop the run, 74 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 2: I think those sacked numbers are going to be down 75 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: for a. 76 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: Lot of those guys. 77 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to go under, but with an 78 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: if on the claus on it in that case. 79 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: But I mean, from. 80 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: Everything we've seen from this kid, this kid's going to 81 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: be anything and more. I'm talking Miles Garrett TJ. Watt 82 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: type production in his career. But at the end of 83 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: the day, like Brian Burns used to say last year, 84 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: a lot of russ you got to earn the right 85 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: to rush, and if these guys want to get those sacks, 86 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: they got to stop the run on first and second 87 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: downs to get these offenses at some third. 88 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: And longs gotta get a minute, and the show me 89 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: is the sack right there too. I think I'm gonna 90 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: go over because I feel like he has shown that 91 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: he is determined and he has focused and he's locked in. 92 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: So I think over. I believe in him. 93 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: But another guy, we're looking at sack numbers for Dexter Lawrence, 94 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Sexy Dexi. Last season he had nine sacks but only 95 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: played twelve games, so over under nine and a half 96 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: from the nose tackle Sexy Dexi, Matt. 97 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to go under here. And it's nothing 98 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 7: against Dexter Lawrence. He's obviously phenomenal, but he's already shown 99 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 7: the NFL that he is one of the best players 100 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 7: in the entire league. I think he's going to get 101 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 7: double teamed even more than he did last year, which 102 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 7: he was double teamed last year at a historic rate. 103 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 7: I think he's going to see even more double teams 104 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 7: this year. His sack numbers might go down, but I 105 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 7: think that's just going to lead to more sacks for 106 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 7: the edge rushers. 107 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 6: Russ I agree. 108 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: I think his numbers are going to go down, and 109 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: again that's by no means a knock at dexter. I 110 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: just think, listen with Carter and tipodou Burns, someone's gonna 111 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 4: be getting the sacks and I think I think Dex 112 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: has to stop them up front in the middle on 113 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: the run. 114 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 6: So I like that number to be under. I don't 115 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 6: like it to be under, but I think it will 116 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 6: be under. 117 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: A lot of mouths to feed Brandon, does Dex go 118 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: over under nine and a half sacks? 119 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of mouths to feed, but 120 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: he is the mouth to feed at three hundred and 121 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: forty pounds plus. I think it's gonna go over on 122 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: this one because of the guys that we're talking about 123 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: that can be coming off of the edge. 124 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 6: Matt. 125 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: I know he was a double team at such an 126 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: historic rate, but how are you going to be able 127 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: to double team him when you're gonna leave those tackles 128 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: on an island all by themselves. 129 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: You're gonna see teams try. 130 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 6: And chip a lot. 131 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: But when you try and chip, that means you're keeping 132 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: one to two guys in and as opposed to trying 133 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: to get guys out in the in the past concepts. 134 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 3: When it comes to the routes. 135 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Teams are gonna try and do that early, but they're 136 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: gonna realize they're losing guys and not being able to 137 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: push the ball down the field. So I think he 138 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: doesn't get double teamed as much as he was last year. 139 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: And for that, I think he's gonna have these centers 140 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: and these guards on skates pushed him in the backfield, 141 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: and then you know what he does after that? 142 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: Do that dance, big boy, do that dance. 143 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: But again, last year he had nine sacks and missed 144 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: several games. So nine and a half if he's healthy, 145 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: not outside of the question. I'm taking the over. Now, 146 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: let's talk offensive side of the ball. Russell Wilson over 147 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: under twenty touchdown passes. 148 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 5: Last year he had sixteen. 149 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: Touchdown passes again with the Steelers, and again only played 150 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: eleven games. Russ over under twenty for Russ. 151 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: Well, if he plays the full season, you know, as 152 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: you say, because we don't know the number of games. 153 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: But if he's healthy and plays the full season, I'm 154 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: going over twenty, all right, Matt. 155 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 6: I just think I'm a believer in Russell Wilson. We've 156 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 6: been there. 157 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: We've spoken about it, Madeline, We've spoken about Obrandon. I 158 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: just think that this team is a different team than 159 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 4: it's been in past years. There's a chemistry and a belief, 160 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: and I really believe Wilson. He's a leader that I've 161 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: never got to know in person. I think he's gonna 162 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: have a big impact on that offense. 163 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna go over as well. I mean, Madeline, 164 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 7: you mentioned he had sixteen touchdown passes in just eleven 165 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 7: games for the Steers last year. The Steelers were one 166 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 7: of the most run heavy teams in the NFL. They 167 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 7: had an offensive play caller who all he wanted to 168 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 7: do was run the ball. Russell Wilson wasn't even really 169 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 7: given the freedom to, you know, be fully unleashed. I 170 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 7: think Brian Dabeles is gonna give him a little bit 171 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 7: more of that freedom. Even if he doesn't, you know, 172 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 7: start seventeen games, I still think he's gonna top that 173 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 7: twenty touchdown Mark Brandon, I'm with you, guys. 174 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on the over on this one because 175 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna put a limit on a guy that's 176 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: nicknamed mister unlimited Unlimited, especially when he talks about wanting 177 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: to feed elite neighbors So although I think elite neighbors 178 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: receiving yards will go down, I think the touchdowns will 179 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: go up because he's going to find a way to 180 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: be efficient in the red zone and get those targets 181 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: to the Theo Johnson and those guys. But I feel 182 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: as though he is going to push eleak numbers that 183 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: get him the football in the red zone, and those 184 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: numbers are going to go up. I'm pushing like twenty 185 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty range for us. 186 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 5: I'm with you. 187 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you on the over for Russell Wilson because 188 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: again last year, sixteen touchdowns in eleven games for a 189 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: Steelers offense, it's really reliant on the run. Yes, and 190 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: we know how much Brian d Able and Mike Kafka 191 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: like to air it out. I don't think they're going 192 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: to hesitate to let him send it down the field. 193 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: So it's a matter of, you know, do they get 194 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: in the end zone, do they have those opportunities, and 195 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: also how many games does Russ play, whether it's health 196 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: already other factor. But I think, all all things considered, 197 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to hit the over on Russell Wilson twenty 198 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: touchdown passes. 199 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: That seems like a good number. Finally, defense right takeaways. 200 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 5: Takeaways has been a point of emphasis. 201 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: We've seen the turnover chest out there at practice, so 202 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: sidetach over or under nineteen takeaways for this Giant's defense, 203 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: and as. 204 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 5: A barometer here last season they had fifteen. 205 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna definitely go with the over there. You know, 206 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 7: Shane Bowen brought out the takeaway chess. You know, all 207 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 7: offseason we've been hearing guys when the defense talk about 208 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 7: how you know, be a damn pirate, and I think 209 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 7: we're gonna see a lot of those guys be pirates 210 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 7: this season. I mean Javon Holland and paulse and a Deebo. 211 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 7: They're known for takeaways. So I think those who are 212 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 7: gonna be big additions to the secondary and help significantly 213 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 7: with that takeaway number. 214 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 6: Russ, Yeah, I have to go with the over. 215 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 4: Listen, we've made you got Abdul Carter, Okay, that's gonna 216 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 4: We're gonna have. I think a lot of fumble recoveries, 217 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: much more than we've had in the pass, and I 218 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 4: think the secondary's improved with Holland with a Debo, it 219 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: has the number has to be if we were fifteen 220 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: last year. I mean, it's got to be what'd you 221 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 4: say the number for us over nineteen. I'm taking over 222 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: on I believe it's got to be over. 223 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 6: It has to be over. 224 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 3: Brandon, Yeah, I'm definitely. I'm with Rust on this one. 225 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: It has to be on the over if this team 226 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: is going to be successful and if they're going to 227 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: be competitive. 228 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: I love the turnover chests. 229 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 2: It's just but I think of it, it's still it's 230 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: still a show me type business. I love the Mets, 231 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: which I love when Grimace was out in the OMG song, 232 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: but those were just gimmicks. They had to get it 233 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: done at the at bats and that's what this defense 234 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: is going to have to do again. Stop the run, 235 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: get them in third and long situations, and that back 236 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: end that's been upgraded with Javon Holland and Paulsing the deebo. 237 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: I feel as though they'll have a lot more interceptions 238 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: in the secondary than what they had last year. So 239 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: it's over, but it's because it has to be over. 240 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: It has to be over. 241 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: But as we mentioned too last year, when the Giants 242 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: were among the bottom tier of the league in terms 243 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: of takeaways, and if you don't have the ball, you 244 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: can't score with the ball, and the possession is what 245 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: nine tenths of the law out here. I do like 246 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: that Shane Bowen has said, hey, you get what you 247 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,359 Speaker 1: focus on. And with that turnover chest and that pirate mentality, 248 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: are you ready to see some more turnovers? 249 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 5: I think so I'm going to take the over. 250 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: We got a lot of excitement around this season, so 251 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: I want to talk about overall season predictions, starting with 252 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: a breakout player for the season, who, in your mind, 253 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: is going to make the biggest jump from twenty twenty 254 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: four to twenty twenty five on this New York Giants roster. 255 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 5: Brandon, I'll start with you. 256 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Theo Johnson. 257 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: I just feel as though last year he started to 258 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: come on at the right time and then he got injured. 259 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: He's been healthy all throughout training camp. He've seen the 260 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: chemistry that he and Russ has been able to develop, 261 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: and just talking to him, you can see that he's 262 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: excited about the plays or the opportunities that Brian Dable 263 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: was going to have for him this year. So I'm 264 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: excited and I think that THEO is really going to 265 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: push and really have a big year this year. 266 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: Russ Brandon keeps taking words out of my mouth. I mean, 267 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: I'm really excited about THEO. One of my comments early 268 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 4: was what the production we're going to get out of 269 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: the tight end group? THEO Johnson, he leads that group. 270 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna throw in one other name, and I 271 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: don't even know how much he's going to play, but 272 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: I do believe the rookie out of the fourth round, 273 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 4: Cam Scatibo, is going to have a big, big impact 274 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: on this team. 275 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 5: Big am Scataboo, the sun Devil, Let's go. 276 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 6: I really do. I think he's that kind of guy. 277 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, So originally I was gonna go with THEO as well, 278 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 7: but we can't all go with the same guy. So 279 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 7: I'm gonna throw another name out there, and you know, 280 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 7: it might be an interesting name as a breakout player, 281 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 7: but I'm going with Brian Burns. And obviously he's already 282 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 7: proven that he is a fantastic edg rusher, but I 283 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 7: think he's gonna take his game to another level this year. 284 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 7: I think he's going to be an all Pro outside linebacker, 285 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 7: something he has not done at least last year with 286 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 7: the Giants. But he had eight and a half sacks 287 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 7: last year, playing through injuries the entire season, Dexter Lawrence 288 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 7: miss time, cave On Thibodeau miss time. Now all those guys, 289 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 7: at least right now are healthy. I think Brian Burns 290 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 7: is going to show that he is that all pro 291 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 7: ed rusher that the Giants trade to four last year. 292 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 5: I like it. I like it. 293 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: My player that I'm watching is Tyrone Tracy. And some 294 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: people might say, what are you talking about. He had 295 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: over a thousand yards from scrimmage in his rookie season 296 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: last year. How could he get much better? Yes, he did, 297 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: but also he struggled a little bit with the holding 298 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: onto the ball. 299 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 5: You had a little case of the fumbles every once 300 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 5: in a while. 301 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: So I think he's going to clean his game up 302 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: and it's only going to get better for Tyrone Tracy. 303 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 5: And if he want something action on the field, you 304 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 5: better call Tyrone. Put up that. Eric Abadu sing it 305 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 5: all right. 306 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: Next topic, here is the most underrated position group going 307 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: into the season. Listen, we've hurt a lot of conversation, 308 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: especially on the national level and in the micro level 309 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: here about certain position groups. A lot of people talking 310 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: about that quarterback room. A lot of people talking about 311 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: the defense, but I want to know what position group 312 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: do you think is being slept on? Side Tek, I'm 313 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: going to start with you in this one. 314 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 7: Yes, So for me, I'm going to go with the 315 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 7: Giants linebackers. You know, we've heard so much for months 316 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 7: now about the defense, but all the talk has been 317 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 7: about the guys up front, the pass rush, and then 318 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 7: the secondary with the new additions, and I feel like 319 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 7: Bobby ocarake and Mikel mcfatten have been just completely slept on. 320 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 7: Bobby o'caak was fantastic in his first season with the 321 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 7: Giants back in twenty twenty three. Last year, you know, 322 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 7: took a little bit of a step back. But I 323 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 7: think now going into year two of Shane Bowen's defense, 324 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 7: both those guys are going to develop into just the 325 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 7: absolute anchors of the middle of the defense. I think 326 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 7: those two are being completely overlooked. 327 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 6: Russ, this is a tough one. 328 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: I agree with Matt on that I might have said 329 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: the linebacker is right away, but I'll do something else. 330 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 6: I'm going to say the old line we've heard, We 331 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 6: hear all the talk. If Andrew Thomas can't make it 332 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 6: or if it takes time. The old line is in trouble. 333 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 6: It's a domino effect, you know, one falls after the other. 334 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 6: Are they going to stay healthy? 335 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: I believe from what I've seen thus far in camp 336 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: and preseason, the old line has looked pretty good. They 337 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: haven't looked flawed as they've looked in the past. I 338 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: do believe they're taken for granted. I think they're going 339 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: to be much better. I'm not gonna say they're a 340 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl line, but I do believe they're going to 341 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 4: be much better than people think they'll be. 342 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say the offensive line, all. 343 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 5: Right, Brandon, from your new location, who's your group. 344 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: That's slept on three different locations on the day. 345 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 5: Would you got on the move like the lea up 346 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 5: over there? 347 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: Hey, you gotta be on the road. You know, Giant's 348 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: going the road. I had to go on the road 349 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: for this one. But you know, I think it's going 350 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: to be I've met. 351 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: I loved the pick with the linebackers, but I think 352 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be the safeties. 353 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: The safety position group. 354 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: Now I understand they add to Javon Holland, and you 355 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: know what type of quality play that you have there, 356 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: But I think people not enough people are talking about 357 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: the anticipated second year jump. 358 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: I feel like Tyler Nuben is going to have this year. 359 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: Had I known you guys are gonna pick Theo Johnson 360 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: as your breakout player, then I would have went to Nuby. 361 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: But remember the Giants drafted him in the second round 362 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: out of Minnesota because he was a ball hawk. He 363 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: went and took the ball, the football away, he didn't 364 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: he didn't have any turnovers last year when it came 365 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: to like interceptions, but fit you talk to a Javon 366 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: Holland and the rest of the secondary, everyone continues to 367 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: talk about Nube gets it. Nube has got it, and 368 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: Nube all he has to do is apply what he's 369 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: learned in the confidence that he has going into his 370 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: second season. I think Tyler Nuben is going to have 371 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: a breakout season for sure. So this Giants secondary group 372 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: is going to be a great group for this team 373 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: this season coming up. 374 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you, they're not just the safeties, but 375 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: the corners as well, because you've got Javon holl in 376 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: the addition there at safety, and I know Nuben talked 377 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: about how the two of them have a relationship like 378 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: brothers already in such a short period of time, plus 379 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: the competition that we saw all off season at that 380 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: second cornerback spot has really helped elevate the play of 381 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: both Cordeil Flat and Deontay Banks. I think there's a 382 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: lot of elevated play. Also, just honorable mention throwing the 383 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: running backs. You know, you got to get that run 384 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: game to be a consistent success, and I think that 385 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: they have just added talent with that sun level of cam' 386 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: skataboo in there. Of course, I got a shout out 387 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: as you every opportunity I get, but I think it's 388 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: going to be an exciting group to watch this season 389 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: going forward. 390 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 5: All right, quickly, now bold prediction for the twenty twenty 391 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 5: five New York Football Giants. Give me one sentence of 392 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 5: what your bold prediction is. 393 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: Brandon bold prediction is they shocked the world. You know 394 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: they have they have consistency at the quarterback position, So 395 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: that's going to upgrade this team tremendously when it comes 396 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: to not being a three and thirteen team. So I 397 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: think that this team is out for and they're going 398 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: to shock the world. 399 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: Brandon's prediction that is bold is that the Giants are 400 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: not three and thirteen. 401 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 5: All right, Russ, what is your prediction that's bold? 402 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 4: My prediction is this something that hasn't been the case 403 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: for a while. The Giants are going to be playing 404 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 4: meaningful games right until the last game of the season, 405 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: right until the last game of the season. So if 406 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 4: I got to give you a number, I'm gonna say 407 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: nine to eight. I just think they're going to be 408 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 4: playing meaningful games right till the end of the season. 409 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: And like when Brandon says, shock the world, I won''t 410 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: be surprised if that happens. I think this is a 411 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: good football team. The only reason I'm holding my breath 412 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: because we've learned about it too many times these past 413 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: few seasons. You keep your fingers crossed regarding the injuries 414 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 4: because there's no you can't do anything about that. That's 415 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 4: just something that we have to deal with. But I 416 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: think we've got some depth now, we're safe at the 417 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: quarterback position. So nine and eight and I all agree 418 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 4: with Brandon Shock in the world. 419 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Nine and eight. Hey, the vibes are strong. Sidetek, what's 420 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: your bold prediction for the twenty twenty five Giants? 421 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know exactly how bold this is, but 422 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 7: I'm going to go with Elik Neighbors wins Offensive Player 423 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 7: of the Year. I think he was phenomenal as a 424 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 7: rookie last year, as we all know, and he did 425 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 7: that with let's just call it, not the most consistent 426 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 7: quarterback play. Now with Russell Wilson under center, that they're 427 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 7: just going to get such elevated play from the quarterback position. 428 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 7: I think the sky is the limit for Molik Neighbors. 429 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 7: Russ has been raving about him since the second he 430 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 7: stepped inside this building. I think we're going to see 431 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 7: a year two breakout, which is really saying something considering 432 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 7: he broke out as a rookie last year. 433 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 5: I like it. 434 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm here for it. My bold prediction. The New York 435 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Football Giants are going to the playoffs. That is my 436 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: bold prediction for twenty twenty five. 437 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 5: And why you may ask, that's kind of out of 438 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 5: a hat. 439 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: Well, the preseason, which a lot of people say doesn't 440 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: really mean a whole lot, the Giants had a plus 441 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: sixty point differential and seven of the or six of 442 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: the last seven teams. There's the eighth team to do 443 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: that since two thousand and nine. Six of the last 444 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: seven teams to have a point differential that large in 445 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: the preseason have gone on to go to the playoffs. 446 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: Two of those teams went to the Super Bowl. 447 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 5: So anything is possible. Anything is possible. 448 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Things are working, the machine is going. If everyone can 449 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: stay healthy, I think the course is set to great 450 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: things shock the world. I think is the consistent theme 451 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: for all of us here though. 452 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 5: For the Bold Prediction. 453 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: Now it starts with Week one and the Giants are 454 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: headed to the Nation's capital to play the Commanders. Giants 455 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: Commanders has always been a very closely contested battle. Last season, 456 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: I think we remember the most memorable game was when 457 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: Graham Gono goes down the first play of the game. 458 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: The Giants don't have a kicker. The Commanders beat the 459 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: Giants solely on field goals, just showing off that they 460 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: do have a kicker. But when we're looking at Week 461 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: one and we're looking at this game overall, Sidetech, what 462 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: storyline and what narrative are you focused on for Week 463 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: one one? 464 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 7: For me, the biggest thing I'm going to be focusing 465 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 7: on is the Giants pass rush versus the Commander's offensive line, 466 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 7: because obviously you know, we've spoken so much and heard 467 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 7: so much about the ed Rushers and the defensive line 468 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 7: with Decks Burns, Cavon Abdul Carter Well. The Commanders went 469 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 7: out and upgraded both offensive tackle positions. They traded for 470 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 7: Laramie Tunsel, who's one of the best tackles in the league. 471 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 7: They drafted Josh Connerley in the first round. Those are 472 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 7: their two starting tackles. So the Giants ed Rushers, They're 473 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 7: gonna have a very tough matchup in this Week one game. 474 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 7: And obviously Jaden Daniels provides his own, you know, tough 475 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 7: matchup with the ability to run. So I'm interested to 476 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 7: see how this defensive front matches up against this Commander's 477 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 7: O line and the dual threat ability of Jaden Daniels. 478 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: Well and Russ. 479 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: When you look at this matchup, this is, you know, 480 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's first start as a Giants quarterback. What are 481 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: you expecting from him in this one? 482 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: I think Russell Wilson is going to get out there 483 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: with the enthusiasm of a rookie, and I mean that 484 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: as a guy who can't wait to play. This is 485 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 4: a new team for him, this is the new season 486 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: and I'll tell you what I believe. I'm gonna go 487 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: in line kind of like what Matt said before. He's 488 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: calling for Malik to be the offensive player of the year. Well, 489 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 4: I think he starts to show that in Week one, 490 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: and I think he's going to be on the receiving 491 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 4: end of the guy we're just talking about, Russell Wilson. 492 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 4: I just think that this Giant team is ready to 493 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: rock and roll. You know what we hear all off season, 494 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, gracious, this is a killer, killer schedule. 495 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 4: They'll be lucky if they can win one of the 496 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: out of the first four games. Well, I don't buy 497 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: that at all. I think they're going to be very 498 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: solid coming out of the gate. And I think it 499 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 4: starts on the road and it gets followed on the 500 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 4: road next week in the week after in Dallas. 501 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 5: Any game is winnable. That's why you play the game, 502 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: right Brandon. 503 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: When you're looking at this one Giants commanders, obviously he's 504 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: the division games, it's an important one to start the season. 505 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: But you know, the Commander's a lot of topics or 506 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: storyline about this team in the offseason, about getting Terry 507 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: McLaurin short up all that they did clean that up, 508 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: but their offense does look different this year than it 509 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: did last year. 510 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 5: What are your expectations. 511 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: My expectation is that Kavon Thibeau is gonna come out firing. 512 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: You know, you look at the success that he's had 513 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: against the Commanders. You look at the offseason he's had 514 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: his social media. He was wrestling and not even WWE 515 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: type wrestling. I'm talking Kurt Angle Olympic gold medal type 516 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: wrestling in order to improve his game. So when we 517 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: talk about when you talk about that pass rush up 518 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: against Jade and Daniels, I'm gonna just take it back 519 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: a little bit. 520 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 3: And as a wide receiver, I can't. 521 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: Believe I'm saying is I am going to watch how 522 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: these pass rushers, edge rushers and defensive line try and 523 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: stop the run. Jayden Daniels is so great with this 524 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: arm and being a dual threat. But when you talked 525 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: about last year Week two medaling that you did that game, 526 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: you mentioned Brian Robinson who's now with the forty nine 527 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: ers have five runs of over ten plus yards. You're 528 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: not going to be able to pass rush. You're not 529 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: gonna put yourself in position where we can really see 530 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: what this shiny new toy that we got for Christmas 531 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: looks like in these edge rushers as a whole, that 532 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: NASCAR package is going to be in the garage if 533 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: they can't stop the run. So I am really excited 534 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: to see if the Giants defense, they're very sexy when 535 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: it comes to the pass rush and the edge rushers, 536 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: if they're gonna get real nasty, take that nasty pill 537 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: and stop the run and make Jayden Dames throw the football. 538 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 5: All right, I'm here for it. 539 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, Giants Commanders Week one must watch. Why because 540 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: is the first game of the season. It's the most 541 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: important game because it's the next game. But it's also 542 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: a game with a lot of history, a lot of narrative, 543 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: a lot of storylines around it, and maybe a little 544 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: bit of trivia. 545 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 5: Russ, I know you got some trivia for us on 546 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 5: this one. What's going on? 547 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 548 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 6: This is for all of you guys. 549 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: All right, let's see, and no, put your phones down. 550 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 4: We don't want anybody cheating. Now, Okay, I got five players. 551 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: I want me to you to name five players that 552 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: made Pro Bowls playing for the Giants that later went 553 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 4: on to play for Washington. Five players made Pro Bowls 554 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: as Giants later went on to play for Washington. 555 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 5: Carl Banks. 556 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 6: That's one, Jesse Armstead, that's two. 557 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: Antonio Pierce. Nope, oh, man. 558 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 5: Did we get a position? 559 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 7: Hit? 560 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 6: All defense? 561 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: All? 562 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 5: All five are defensive players. 563 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 6: All five defensive players. You know what? Somebody just mentioned 564 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 6: Antonio Pearis. But Antonio came. 565 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 5: After he's with Washington first. All right, that's an honorable 566 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 5: mention on the list. But yeah, I cannot. 567 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 4: Okay, so are you've named two Banks and Jesse? If 568 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 4: you need any more time, I'll go take my car 569 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: for a car wash and come back while you guys 570 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 4: think about it. 571 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 6: So you know we don't have all days. 572 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 5: More hints here, rus all right? 573 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 4: One one is an all time great who played in 574 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 4: the greatest game. 575 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 6: Ever played in the fifties, a defensive player, and. 576 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 4: There was there was a story. There was a show 577 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 4: about him in nineteen sixty called The Violent World of. 578 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 5: Man. I'm disappointed at us that God is watching this show. 579 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 5: I can just see it. Oh yeah, you guys need 580 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 5: to watch more chronicles. 581 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 6: He's screaming. That guy is Sam Huff. 582 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, Sam Huff. 583 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 6: That guy is Sam Huff. Certainly. 584 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: So far we've got Carl Banks, Jesse Armstead, Sam huff Okay. 585 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: The other guy, I'll give you another hint. He played 586 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: on the first and second Super Bowl with call Banks, 587 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 4: a defensive player. 588 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeh man, eighties nineties. 589 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: Goodness, I mean who the corners, don lt not. 590 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 6: He's in the Giants Hall of Fame. 591 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 5: It's in the Giants Fame. 592 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: Oh man, My Giants card has been declined right now? 593 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 6: All right, all right? 594 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 4: Leonard Marshall, Okay, okay, Leonard Marshall. And last, but not least. 595 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 4: And actually when I was given this, we went over 596 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 4: with Pearson. It was initially four players, and honest to god, 597 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 4: I'm laying in bed at five point thirty in the 598 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: morning thinking about this. 599 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 6: I says, wait a minute, we forgot this guy. So 600 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 6: he verified it. Okay, other guy at defensive back. 601 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: Landon Collins, Ingo, y, yeah, right, you're right. 602 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 7: One for us. 603 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: Landon Collins was our like our colleague Brandon and I 604 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: worked with him. Yeah, I thought before side Ted got here, 605 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: what was our colleague Russ? 606 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 5: We were all right, that's good, all right. 607 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: So Carl Banks, Jesse Armstead, Sam Huff, Landon Collins, Elizabeth 608 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: Anna Marshall. All right, the five players that were Pro 609 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: bowlers with the New York Giants that later went on 610 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: to play with the Commanders. 611 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 5: Love that for us. 612 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: A lot of history, a lot of Venn Diagram between 613 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: these two teams. And all right, well we got the 614 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: football history out of the way. Now let's have a 615 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: little fun with it, because we're gonna do some blind 616 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: rankings of buildings and monuments in. 617 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 5: The nation's capital. 618 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: Because I know the first thing that comes to mind 619 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: when you think of Washing ten is all the statues 620 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: and all the buildings. All right, So what we're gonna 621 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: do blind rankings. For those of you that don't know 622 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: how it works. I'm gonna say a place, a statue 623 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: of building. You're gonna give me a number one through five. 624 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: Where does it rank? Is it number one? The best, 625 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: number five? The worst of this list? Not knowing what 626 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: other monuments or buildings are coming ready, all right, starting with. 627 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 5: The capital, one or five? 628 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: It's four? 629 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 5: Who said four? 630 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: I said four? I go four for me, brand I 631 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: have a feeling what's coming up. 632 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 7: I was gonna say four as well? 633 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 6: Me do I'm going four? Also? 634 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: Okay, the board, so everyone has four across the board. 635 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 5: All right, the Albert Einstein Memorial. 636 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: Five five you're talking about that's ranked the one would 637 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: be the top. 638 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 6: Right, correct, Yeah, yeah, Albert. 639 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 4: I don't hear too many people talking about the Albert 640 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: Einstein Memorial. 641 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 7: I gotta go five as well. 642 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 5: Washington Monument. 643 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 7: Number one, side, got it, one, it's gotta be number one. 644 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say two. 645 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: I'll go five on this one, like. 646 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 6: Two, two, yeah, okay, five. 647 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 7: I feel like it's one of the most significant monuments 648 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 7: in our country. 649 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 5: Washington Monument as five. 650 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you not want to go see Albert 651 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: the Albert Einstein Nobody is. 652 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: Nobody's contesting your desire to see Albert Einstein. But like 653 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mean Washington Monument is five. 654 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: But you can do more at the Albert Einstein Museum. 655 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 4: Oh so, now we're getting it the interactive stuff for crime. See, 656 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 4: that's what happens when you have a young child, see 657 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: starts thinking differently. 658 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 6: That's what the problem. 659 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: Is and price right, okay, uh, the Smithsonian go. 660 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: Three, three, three, three, all. 661 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: Right, threes across the board, and now by default, the 662 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln Memorial one. 663 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 6: That's what I was waiting for. 664 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 7: Two for me because that's all I have left, and 665 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 7: I'll get to be fine with that. 666 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: I have one, but I wish I could swap my 667 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: two in one. 668 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: This is why it is blind rankings branded. 669 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 7: It's too late. 670 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 5: It's too late. All of these are going to be 671 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 5: great things to see. 672 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: So if you're headed out to the game, cruise around 673 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: the Capitol, go see the National Mall, see all of 674 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: the buildings and monuments at Washington d C has to offer. 675 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 5: That's a wrap for our hangout. As much fun as 676 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 5: this has been, we're gonna do it again next week. 677 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 5: We'll clean it up, we'll figure it out. Listen. We're 678 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 5: not in mid season form yet. This is week one. 679 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 5: We're still getting the kinks out. 680 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: We're running the show a little bit differently this time, 681 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: but it's a lot of fun and Giants commanders leave 682 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: us with the score prediction anyone. 683 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I will. I'm gonna say thirty one twenty Giants. 684 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 5: Keeping the thirty point streak alive. 685 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: The Giants had over thirty points in each of their 686 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: three preseason games. 687 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 5: RUSS has a rolling on thirty one twenty New York Giants. 688 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: Will see how it goes one pm Sunday at Washington. 689 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: Giants commanders, make sure to check out postgame show. Make 690 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: sure to check out radio content. We've got all sorts 691 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: of stuff going on on giants dot Com. But that's 692 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: a wrap for Week one. Giants Hangouts presented by Crestroant 693 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: for Brandon London, Russ Salzburg and Matt Sytek and Madeleine 694 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: Burgle'll see next time.