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Speaker 2: Hey guys, thanks for watching. Today's episode is brought to

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Speaker 1: Despite twenty years of music industry experience under his belt,

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Speaker 1: This Cleveland singer earlier this year won his first Grammy

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Speaker 1: with an amazing viral moment to follow. He's an advocate

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Speaker 1: funniest musicians you can follow on social media.

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Speaker 4: Please welcome to ram Berno, thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Too somewhere well in real life.

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Speaker 4: Ah, I'm so glad to see you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're one of those people that I

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Speaker 1: but we have not ever.

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Speaker 3: I know, right, That's the that's the beauty of just

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Speaker 4: So much.

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Speaker 3: It's like you saw me on the timeline, but we

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Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm probably not the only person

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Speaker 1: People probably feel like that about you in general, right,

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Speaker 1: because you have a spirit that you kind of like

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Speaker 2: I feel like people probably say that to you all

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Speaker 4: White you know, it's it's.

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Speaker 3: I learned early on that people do enjoy being around

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Speaker 3: people that have a positive attitude that you know, make

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Speaker 4: We can just laugh for a minute, you know. It's

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Speaker 3: I don't take anything serious unless it requires severity. And

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Speaker 1: Okay, I heard your quotes at the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: pod story. Are you always like that? Are you always

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Speaker 2: Can you be?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: I think it's more so when I'm stepping outside, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'll say this is there's a difference between people who

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Speaker 3: I got to turn it on because it's in me.

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Speaker 2: What is that? Is it energy? Is it personality? What

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Speaker 3: Those two plus whimsical? You know, we need whimsy in

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Speaker 4: And you see it.

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Speaker 1: What were you like as a kid, So if this

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Speaker 2: Is the child version of you?

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Speaker 4: It's the Regina George thing. You know.

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Speaker 2: People missed this a line, People miss that line.

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Speaker 4: What I'm doing? What are you going to be doing?

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Speaker 3: And She's like, if you knew what I had to

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Speaker 3: She did not put your humanity on probation just because

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Speaker 2: That's so good.

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Speaker 3: And one thing that she always said ever since I

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Speaker 2: Were you a spoiled child?

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Speaker 2: You did amazing. You know, somebuddy, I always hear you talks.

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Speaker 1: You know, you speak so highly of your parents, even

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Speaker 2: Does that do to a young boy when it grown?

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Speaker 4: And first of all, you're not that tight for somebody.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever think are you gonna be a parent?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to have kids and do a family?

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Speaker 3: And so I used to want children, No more I did.

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Speaker 4: And I realized then.

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Speaker 4: And I just it clicked right then and there. Wow,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not And I would.

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Speaker 3: And my mother has told me you would be an

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I know I would.

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Speaker 3: It's just the sacrifice that it would take. First of all,

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Speaker 4: I can't. I can't. I can't, not in os and

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Speaker 3: And so I also realized too, you know, it takes

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Speaker 4: And there's more.

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Speaker 3: It's not just the mom and dad, it's not just

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Speaker 4: I can give back. Oh that's my jam right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really so most. I wish everyone could be

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Speaker 1: It is literally the biggest, Like you have to make

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Speaker 3: And I already don't get enough sleep and rest at

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Speaker 4: Us, whoa, whoa. Also, my career is my child.

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Speaker 3: You love your career, I mean I do, However, it

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Speaker 2: Wait what was the thing we were saying when you

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yes, being in this business it is glamorized customer service.

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Speaker 3: You have to love it, just like being a teacher,

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Speaker 4: You have to love what it is that you do.

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Speaker 2: But do you think of your career and your gift?

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Speaker 1: I guess it's two things. But your gift or your

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Speaker 3: For sure, I feel like my gift, that's that's innately

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Speaker 2: You know, how do you use your gift on you?

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Speaker 2: Give me an example.

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Speaker 3: Some songs are auditory journal entries.

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Speaker 3: Not everything needs to be so it's like therapy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You're personal. On with a little lock, okay, with the lock,

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Speaker 4: So my first journal ever had a lock on it

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Speaker 5: Yes, you're right, because people share a little too much

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Speaker 2: But why are you so funny? But why are you

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Speaker 2: are you so funny? And why?

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Speaker 1: And you know, usually funny doesn't come with also this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sometimes people be so serious about their singing

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Speaker 3: like he his voice is an instrument.

447
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I.

448
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: I would like to say that I'm a I'm definitely

449
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 3: come from that. I also love Bo Burnham, and I

450
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 3: mean I love Kat Williams, Bruce, Bruce, Arna's Jay, Yeah,

451
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 3: Ricky smiling that, I Monique, I mean just comedians period.

452
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 4: It's what is.

453
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 2: It about the comedy side of it that does it

454
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 2: for you?

455
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: I love to laugh. I love to make people laugh

456
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: because it is it is natural medicine. It is literally

457
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 3: massaging your insides and sending oxygen to your bloodstream. It

458
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 3: is literally adding seconds and minutes to your life.

459
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 4: So yeah, give me a reason laugh, right.

460
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: Unless it ain't shit funny here here?

461
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 2: When is it not funny?

462
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 3: I was gonna say when it's at my expense, But

463
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 3: there have been some funny shit that has happened at

464
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: my falling, tripping, bumping and stuff. Maybe one time I

465
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,239
Speaker 3: was doing stage production and I'm going to go hit

466
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 3: this note and I cracked, Oh my god, And it was.

467
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: When crag Oh yeah, I me never seeing you crack.

468
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: I know right, what note was it? It was the

469
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 3: glorysa his ride that.

470
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what the fu that was, and

471
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 6: the dancers on stage like ooh, the ram baby I'm like,

472
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 6: y'a hear that?

473
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: How do you receive that when it happens? Are you're

474
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: a mess? Are you angry? Are you freaking out?

475
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: No?

476
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: You just keep going.

477
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just keep going. I don't take I don't

478
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 4: take anything to say.

479
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 3: First of all, especially when you're performing live, all of

480
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: this is is live.

481
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, y'all know I can say.

482
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 3: You know, when you're in the studio, as Erica said,

483
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 3: you're perfecting the moment.

484
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 4: When you're performing live, you're creating.

485
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

486
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: Can we talk about just grabbing moment for a second,

487
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: because it was so beauty, It was so I think

488
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: people people who didn't people who love you felt the

489
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: joy and I don't know, you just shared that moment

490
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: with everybody with such freedom, just laughs and the whole thing.

491
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: And then somebody who maybe didn't know you was like,

492
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: well who is that?

493
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

494
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: Like it was just one of those moments that's just

495
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: like electric and even maybe bigger than even you could

496
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: have imagined that moment to be.

497
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: Did you feel like that about it?

498
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: I The first thing I was thinking of was I

499
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: got these open back meles on and I'm running at

500
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 3: a slant downward.

501
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 2: Oh God, I.

502
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 4: Just but I just had that. My toes was like, God,

503
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't okay.

504
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: I was ready to tumble because again I fallen afost.

505
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: We was gonna roll back up.

506
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: It was at the end that moment it was about me.

507
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: As soon as it was over, it was about everybody else,

508
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: Like it was about all of the independent artists who

509
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 3: have been out here for years hustling, doing it by themselves.

510
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 4: This was for.

511
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: Every artist who was told, you know, you're doing too much,

512
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 3: you need to tone it down. Nobody's going to listen

513
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 3: to you, nobody's going to pay attention to you while

514
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: you acting like this, while you're doing.

515
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: This, and it was just very much a big.

516
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

517
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:13,959
Speaker 4: What was that?

518
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: M hm?

519
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: Because twenty years is a nice chunk of time to

520
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: be doing something. And even within that, I'll say with

521
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: that my I said, my almost my ten year mark.

522
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: I was feeling like.

523
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: Am I even what am I doing?

524
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: You know? Doubts?

525
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was this was this when I moved out

526
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 3: to LA because I got into uber and lifting, you know,

527
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: I was doing that on the side and.

528
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: This is already you have music people.

529
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this was also this was before Sam's Vibe.

530
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: This was before Case Arnada. So those those first four

531
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: years out in La when I moved out there in

532
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen productive. However, also you can get caught up in,

533
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 3: like I said, the the cycle of the hustle, and

534
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: then you're so focused on trying to make sure you

535
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 3: can pay rent, you can do all this, and then

536
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: you have a little bit of time to work on,

537
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: you know, your art and what makes you happy and

538
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: you know. So it wasn't until twenty yeah, end of

539
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, I started to have assistance, you know, bring

540
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: other people in, you know, because I was doing all

541
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: of my recording by myself, writing by myself, arranging by myself.

542
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

543
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: And so once I started bringing other people in, that's

544
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 3: when things started to shift and started to make noise.

545
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 3: And I'm just grateful that I was in a position

546
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: where I was open to it, because I know I

547
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: don't have all the answers, you know, And I tell

548
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: people that anytime we go into sessions, Look y'all got

549
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: the plaques.

550
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 4: I don't.

551
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: So I'm the I'm the mannequin. Put whatever your ideas

552
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: on are, like, put it on me. N Let's see

553
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 3: how I go because and also me liking the record

554
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean I have to.

555
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 4: That's not.

556
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: Uh, that's not a foundational thing, you know, because a

557
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: lot of people's biggest records they weren't feeling, but it

558
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 3: got them to where they needed to go.

559
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: You know.

560
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's been Wow, it's been a it's been

561
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: a it's been a while ride.

562
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: But but I've been open. It's just the openness, you know, I.

563
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Think about I was thinking about that, you said.

564
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: You know, we've heard you tell the story about how

565
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: like the year before you didn't win, you didn't think

566
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: you was gonna win.

567
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: So he was in the back and you ran up.

568
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: And then I thought to myself, I wonder what that

569
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: felt like for you, somebody that's been independent for so long,

570
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: grinded for so long, then getting nominated than not winning,

571
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: Like you joke about it now, like I didn't think

572
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: I was in winds House in the back, But I'm like,

573
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: but but did that?

574
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: Was that was that weighing on you? Did you feel?

575
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: I did not want to feel another layer of disappointment

576
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: because it was something that I absolutely felt that was

577
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 3: out of my control. You know, I even up until

578
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: that point, I felt like, I don't know if I

579
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: did enough you know, groundwork for people to know what's

580
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: going on so that they could vote for me, or

581
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: they could know that I have you know, material out.

582
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 3: So it was just and also too with you know,

583
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: every sunshine. She won in my category the year before her,

584
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 3: and no worries, and she was asking me, like, have

585
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: you written your speech yet?

586
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 4: And I was like, I haven't, you know. She was like,

587
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: please write your speech, she said.

588
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: I was up here trying to think who I needed

589
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: to because I didn't because I didn't think that I was.

590
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: People were telling me you're not going to win, and

591
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: I just didn't want to write another heartfelt speech from

592
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 3: my heart that the world was not going to hear.

593
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: So that's why I was like, gonna write it, and

594
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit in the back. And right before we

595
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: left to go to the theater is when I finished

596
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: writing my speech. Wow, and still sat in the back

597
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: because I'm just like, just in case, just in case,

598
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: I want to easy out. But me, but me counting

599
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: myself out, even in the slightest ended up being a

600
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: viral moment.

601
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: It was so good. Yeah, ended up working, mind, But

602
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: at that moment, those moments of not the moment of

603
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: not winning, and that feeling. It didn't make you bitter though.

604
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: Right because you never I was still tender.

605
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: I was still tender about it because we also have

606
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: to go back to twenty twenty, twenty twenty. End of

607
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. That was the first time you gotten

608
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: That was the first time, no, no, no. That was

609
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: the first time that I was on a project as

610
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: a feature that won a Grammy. That was Kate Tronadas

611
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: above album I did free Fall, and I got a

612
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: call from a friend saying, oh, bitch, you got a

613
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: Grammy too, because you're a feature on the album, you

614
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: get a Grammy too. And then there were other artists

615
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: on the on the album, you know, talking about, oh

616
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: we get a Grammy, we got this, they making video,

617
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: So I made a video or I'm brushing my Grammy

618
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: award win tth bitch, I'm gonna be doing this. And

619
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: then a homegirl of mine who worked on the board, baby, she.

620
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: Was like, ooh, friend, you got a moment and.

621
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: So hey, Brittany Baby, she was like, so, friend, so

622
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: because you need to put in fifty one percent or

623
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: more into the entire body of work to receive the hardware,

624
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: you receive a participation certificate. So I had I went

625
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: back online and I explained everybody like, actually, y'all, I

626
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: don't get a Grammy, Like this is what you know

627
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying friends, you know, And then there was

628
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: the well you still a grammy a womb You're still

629
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: a winner. To me, It's like, come on, y'all, y'all, y'all,

630
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: ain't got to do please, It's okay.

631
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 4: You know what I'm say. It's okay, Like we didn't know.

632
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: So there was a little bit of that.

633
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: Love you though. How sweet is that?

634
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

635
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: No, and I and I really appreciated that, you know.

636
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: It's just I don't think they understood that because I'm

637
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: my parents' only baby and I was home school. I

638
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: never had to do competition, you know. I wasn't in

639
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: sports and all that kind of stuff. It's always been

640
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: about me. I'm the winner, you know, I'm the winner.

641
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: I'm the beginning and the end, okay, the first end.

642
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: Elect like when we talk about so to go through

643
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: that on a on a global scale and then to

644
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: not get it when people have been telling you the

645
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: reasons why you're going to get it and why you

646
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: deserve it. Yeah, it was like, ooh, I don't like that.

647
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: And then I had to go throughout the rest of

648
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: the evening. You know, there was a clip where Janello

649
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: Nee saw me on the carpet and she runs into

650
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: being hugs me.

651
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: And she was like, how did it go?

652
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: Did you kidneything?

653
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: You see like you don't hear us, but you see

654
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: us talking and you see my face go. And she

655
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: was like, yes, all right, all right, we're gonna We're

656
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: gonna do something anyway, like you know, and it was

657
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: just you know, so and then of course I had

658
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: that tight as kumbabon on so.

659
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: It was just no slack.

660
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't breathe, and I just so at the end

661
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: of the day, when I was actually able to go

662
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: home and be by myself is when I was able

663
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: to actually unfold.

664
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: Because it was just I had to be all day.

665
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: So that was that was an adjustment, and so it

666
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: was just like I said, I was still a little

667
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,720
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Speaker 1: use coderl You said something before about people saying you

697
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Speaker 1: it too much. I would imagine that that happens to creatives,

698
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: people who are truly out of the box. Creative, you

699
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: too much because you don't fit in a box. What

700
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Speaker 1: do you say to somebody who's being told that they're

701
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Speaker 1: too much? And how did you manage to navigate that?

702
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Speaker 4: I will say this, especially those boxes right.

703
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: Funny thing about boxes, They do have limits, However it

704
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: depends on what you're doing in that box. And I

705
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: also I like to go back to that episode of

706
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: Spongebobe where he's using his imagination and they get some box.

707
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: Enough Squidward ordered a huge ass television, but Patrick and

708
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: SpongeBob were playing in that box and there was so

709
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: much calamity going on in there, and squid Word could

710
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Speaker 3: not focus on what he had gotten in the box

711
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: because they having too much fun inside that box. And

712
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: when he opens it, they're just sitting there. Nothing's going

713
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: on but you hear all this stuff going instance, we're

714
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: using our imaginations. If you don't have enough imagination, then

715
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: you might not fit in around here. You need people

716
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: that want to have just as big of an imagination

717
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: as you do, like we're And.

718
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: First of all, especially being black, why would you think

719
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 4: that I came here to do the least?

720
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Speaker 3: Like?

721
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 4: Where where did you even think that was even a fault?

722
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 4: A suggestion? You know, And at no.

723
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: Point did you ever because I would imagine this happens

724
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: to artists too, especially a lot, when somebody is saying

725
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: you should do this, You gotta do this.

726
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: This is how you win, This is how you be successful.

727
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: This is how you can make it back like you

728
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: never felt victim to, like not losing yourself so much,

729
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: but just bending in a way that felt uncomfortable for you.

730
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Speaker 4: So not.

731
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 3: Well, yes, bending because I'm flexible and when you are,

732
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 3: but to gain your flexibility you have to stretch. You

733
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: have to stretch yourself in areas that That's why I

734
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: said there's a fine line between pressure and pain.

735
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 4: Pressure you can lean into, but if it's painful, back off.

736
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: So I think I've there's been a really good Yeah,

737
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: I got that in yo, you got the bar. So

738
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: when you have people that can see something that's already

739
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: there that just needs some embellishing, just need some fine tuning,

740
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: just needs to If anything, it just needs.

741
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: To be tailored like I have.

742
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: Like the garments are amazing, but if we could just

743
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: bring this in a little bit to kind of really

744
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: let it fit you.

745
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: That's that's what they did.

746
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: It's supposed to being too rigid where you just only

747
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: want to do it your way and you're not.

748
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Speaker 4: Yeah no, I've never been been like that.

749
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Speaker 1: Yeah No, tell me a time though, tell me the

750
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Speaker 1: time you had to bend. You had to give me

751
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Speaker 1: an example of what that means in your world, to

752
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Speaker 1: your real life.

753
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: So back when I was, I say, late teens going

754
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: in the early twenties, I was heavy on the jazz,

755
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: heavy on jazz, Billy Sarah Ella, Big May Bell, Phillis

756
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Speaker 3: hym and mister just a Bob a Loo Bob okay,

757
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: all of that, and that bled into how I approached music.

758
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: And so there was no structure and it felt good

759
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: to me, but I was trying to figure out why

760
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: wasn't it translating to other people? And so again when

761
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: I brought someone in to let them listen to the music.

762
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: They're like, okay, well you sound amazing, but these melodies

763
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: like they're all off the place.

764
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

765
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is how we need to do this.

766
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: So you do like this and whatnot and let's try

767
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: something else. But keep this to And I was like,

768
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: that's all you had to do.

769
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: That was all.

770
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: It was.

771
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: Just a little, just a little titbit. It was so

772
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: it was so minute, but it made such a huge impact.

773
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 4: And that's what the song melody was about.

774
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: I was explaining how I've been working by myself and

775
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: now I found my recipe for what is dope because

776
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Speaker 3: I didn't have to change who I was.

777
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Speaker 4: I just had to tailor garments.

778
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: I love that.

779
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of the recipe of why you're dope? What is

780
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: the comparison? Oh god, I can't remember. I'm talking about

781
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: the difference between it's not a it's like church, the

782
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: church voice or tone versus club.

783
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: I wrote it down. I don't find a few because

784
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: I gotta get it right about the rest.

785
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: What was that?

786
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: You don't even remember this? You do so much funny stuff.

787
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: You just do so much that you don't even remember

788
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Fine, okay, but but I feel

789
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: like that is the kind of sweet spot of what

790
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: you do.

791
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: And even some of the song I mean you, oh yeah,

792
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: you remade a gospel song.

793
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 4: I've remade so many. We did a grown I'm talking about.

794
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: One specific one that wasn't kind of viral.

795
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: Yes, forever and and.

796
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 4: For ah the ship you put me through. M y'all

797
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: need that. We know.

798
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 6: Y'all are can go full.

799
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: Stress sing me.

800
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 5: Church, Yo.

801
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: What happens when you do something like this and it

802
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: goes because it's one thing you do it and it's

803
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: like you're a little You're not little big, but your

804
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: community on your Instagram and your things. There's another thing

805
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: when you do something and it goes so viral that

806
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: it starts to get legs.

807
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: Because then people have opinions that it's not part of that.

808
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: Don't get your humor in your things that did that

809
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: cause any issue? Or you just don't you don't pay it,

810
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: you don't.

811
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Speaker 4: Pay don't have to pay too much attention to that.

812
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, easy to be like, oh God, I don't want

813
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: to make anybody up set ange.

814
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. When the people pleaser discovers

815
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: that people are never pleased.

816
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: M you stop giving a fuck truly, like people are

817
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: never please even when you try to do things in

818
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: the way that.

819
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: They suggested that you do, and it's still not good enough.

820
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: So why are we wasting our time doing that, especially

821
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: with people that aren't that don't even live our lives,

822
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: don't even live even parallel to our lives.

823
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 4: Even if you could fit my shoes, you can't strolling.

824
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: So I like to focus on the people who There's just.

825
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: So many words. You have so many words.

826
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: I got two therapists, I've been around the eldest we've

827
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: been around.

828
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: I'm a sponge the.

829
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: Elder And that's a perfect combination by the way that

830
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Speaker 1: the therapists and.

831
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: The elders don't have like a paith. Also at the

832
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: same time and all that going on at the same time,

833
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: you are well armed.

834
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: Come on, covered, you cover, Come on now?

835
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: I love that. When did you find therapy? Uh?

836
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: Professionally twenty twenty But I've been six years and that

837
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: was professional. We're talking about like unprofessional.

838
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: We're talking what is an unprofessional therapist?

839
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely? You got my of course, my mom, my dad.

840
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Speaker 3: You had a Vat Singletary who was my one of

841
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: my managers, at the time, and also a mentor and

842
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: just people that I've I've come across that just did

843
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: not mind pouring into me, you know, because they saw

844
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: that I didn't mind listening.

845
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: You know.

846
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: I love to, you know, to sit down and hear

847
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: stories and to you know, take note of what things

848
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: were not going to do and what we're not going

849
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: to do is bad.

850
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Speaker 4: Okay, back, you.

851
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: Know, I love that. Give me a boy, give me,

852
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: give me a jewel. She poured into you.

853
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 4: Oh too many.

854
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: There's there's one immediately that comes to mind, and this

855
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: was when I called her when I discovered that I got.

856
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: Cheated on.

857
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 3: And she had me. She was texting me and she

858
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: she texted me this this prayer to recite in One

859
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: of the last things that it said was I am

860
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: not a victim.

861
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 4: I am a student, and I am grateful.

862
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: And m Also that was the same time where she

863
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 3: taught me how not to internalize.

864
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: You know, do you do that? It's a practice because

865
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 4: a lot of.

866
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: Times, you know, when people are behaving towards us in

867
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 3: a certain way or or even just exuding certain energy,

868
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: that we might feel like, oh did I do something wrong?

869
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: Did you?

870
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: And my thing is if you don't come and talk

871
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: to me, I'm not and assume shit, I can't you

872
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: if you don't feel comfortable, enve to at least come

873
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: and talk to me and say, hey, Duran, when you

874
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: did X, Y and Z that made me feel this way.

875
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: That let's take inventory into that, because I don't want

876
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: to make you feel that way. But if you can't

877
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: even come and talk to me and let me know

878
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 3: that I did something wrong, obviously we ain't that close.

879
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: That's that and that's okay too.

880
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: But I can't internalize it's it's it.

881
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: It will literally like tatter your nervous system.

882
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that if you're if somebody cheats

883
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: on you or your relationship and you've poured into somebody.

884
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: How is that? Can you not internalize?

885
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: That?

886
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: Is that something you can well?

887
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: Again, it's it's a practice.

888
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: And my thing is if I've done my due diligence

889
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: to make sure that the floor is open for you

890
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: to be able to talk to me or if there's

891
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: something that.

892
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 4: You need, if you don't let me know, how am

893
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 4: I gonna know?

894
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: Like, if you don't tell me how you're feeling, I'm

895
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: not gonna give a damn because I'm genuinely ignorant of

896
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: what's going on inside.

897
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: And also we have to remember that.

898
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: How people treat treat you, it's really a reflection of

899
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 3: how they view themselves. And again, you can't you can't

900
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: take on their issues. I mean you can, but you

901
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: know that whole empathy ship. Listen, y'all can keep that.

902
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: I don't have time to be walking around here feeling everybody.

903
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: To let me tell you something.

904
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: You see us right here?

905
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: What?

906
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

907
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: So this is from an episode of Black Mirror.

908
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: It was I think season four, season six, but the

909
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: episode was called Black Museum, and there were three episodes

910
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: within the episode. This particular one was called Pain Addict.

911
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: It's about this doctor who was who got presented with

912
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: some new technology to help with medicine. It was this

913
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: plant that got installed into the back of his head

914
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: that when uh, that was attached to a hairnet. You

915
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: put the hairnet on someone else, he can feel what

916
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: the other person is feeling without suffering the physical ramifications

917
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 3: of it. So they were trying to figure out how

918
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: to help people. You know, they bring folks in, put

919
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: the hairnet on, he'd be able to detect what was

920
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: going on in their body without them even knowing that

921
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: there was something else going on.

922
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 4: Everything was great until one day he went in there.

923
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: They strapped this guy up, and immediately as soon as

924
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: he put the hairnet on, he felt this pain. He's like,

925
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: oh God, what the fuck am I feeling? The man

926
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: was having a heart attack and he flatlined while he

927
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: was still wearing the hair net. The doctor blacked out

928
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: for two minutes, came back, brain was scrambled like a

929
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: motherfucker because now you have experienced the ecstasy of death

930
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: while you are still conscious. So now him it went

931
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: from wanting to feel pleasure to now he needs to

932
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: feel pain. And now he's going to work putting that

933
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: having people wear that hairnet, and writing the pain because

934
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: he's trying to get back to that. And I realized, like, woo,

935
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: I can't put hair nets on everybody.

936
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: I can't feel everybody's ship. I can't.

937
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: I can do my I can do my best where

938
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: I can, but we can't give our fucks to everybody.

939
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: You got to reserve them for the folks that gin

940
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: like we can, because you gotta reserve your fucks.

941
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: Empathy is a tricky.

942
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: Thing, boy, because it's it's it's putting a package with

943
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: a bowl as if it's a good thing. Yeah, you're

944
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: such an empathetic person. Here's your here's your You know,

945
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: like it's put like it's a good thing. But if

946
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: you don't know how to manage it or regulate it,

947
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: it actually.

948
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: Could harm you.

949
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, listen, I I just was working through through

950
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: my second therapist.

951
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: Is I got to wait two at the same time time.

952
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: Oh do they have a conflict.

953
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: Oh no, just a couple of weeks ago. I have

954
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: both of them on three Wright, What are we talking about?

955
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: I need all hands on that.

956
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: What do you what are you trying to fix it?

957
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: It's not about fixing, it's just you when you're going

958
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 3: through certain things, and it's like, no, I need multiple

959
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: perspectives at the same time, because both of y'all know

960
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: what's going on, and I just need everybody.

961
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 4: We just need to have a team meeting.

962
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

963
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 4: And I say that with with.

964
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 3: Pride and with surety within myself that I don't have

965
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: all the answers and a nigga be needing help too,

966
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: you know.

967
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: I love that because it's everybody needs help all the time.

968
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 2: You don't need to therapists.

969
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: Have therapists, therapist. But you come from a great family.

970
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: You love your parents, your parents love you.

971
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: You know.

972
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: Normally when we hear the therapy, heavy therapy especially or

973
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: people who like really rely on therapy, it's like, you know.

974
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: Troubled childhood and trauma.

975
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: I mean, we all have our traumas and having a career,

976
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: having a career, you need to be in therapy when

977
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: you are in the spotlight, you know, to navigate, to navigate, seriously, Yeah, you.

978
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: Do it all right.

979
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: Listen, I think pretty ain't been arrested.

980
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: You Like you said, you're not built for that.

981
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not. That's not Listen.

982
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: If there is ever ever a time where you see

983
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: Duran in a fight, understand it is nothing I ever started. However,

984
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: it was something that I had to finish because I'm

985
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: always gonna choose to walk away if there's ever and now,

986
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm always going to walk away.

987
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 4: But as my father always said, it's me and you

988
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: to list me or.

989
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: You your father got bars to us?

990
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 4: Huh, we have all lived.

991
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: So yes, you got the bars. You got the bar.

992
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 4: Okay, now, so so they say you can got a

993
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 4: family of bars.

994
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, you ever signed up for a phone plan,

995
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: thinking wow, what a great price, and then a few

996
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: months later it's like, surprise.

997
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,319
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998
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: With boost Mobile, you paid twenty five dollars a month forever.

999
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,080
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1000
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Speaker 1: five dollars a month. There's no price hikes, there's no contract,

1001
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: and this is forever. Plus, Boost Mobile is now a

1002
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1003
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: Five G network.

1004
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Speaker 1: They invested billions building five G towers across the country.

1005
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1006
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1008
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1009
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,799
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1010
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: pay twenty five dollars a month as long as they

1011
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: remain active on the Boost Unlimited plan. So we have okay,

1012
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: So we have a section, a segment called our voice

1013
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: down segment.

1014
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: Somebody is a fan or a friend or to the show,

1015
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: and they knew you were here, and they sent us

1016
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: a little voice no nice? Shall we.

1017
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: Hey, Daran?

1018
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 7: My name is Wango and I wanted to ask. The

1019
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 7: music industry can be such a tricky landscape, especially for

1020
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 7: a new artist who wants to remain independent like you are.

1021
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 7: What are some things that you wish you knew in

1022
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 7: the beginning of your career that you now realize are

1023
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 7: important for the route of.

1024
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: Independence, dependence life for everybody.

1025
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 4: It's not, It is not. It is not for the weary.

1026
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: You probably get that a lot.

1027
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: There's probably a lot of independence out here that independent

1028
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: artists that are inspired.

1029
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 2: By your path.

1030
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: I honestly, the only thing that I can I can

1031
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: the only thing I can really accredit to how far

1032
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: I've gotten is first and foremost having a father as

1033
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: as my manager, so pops being in the in the music,

1034
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 3: being around the industry, and kind of again being a

1035
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: part of my covering. So I was able to avoid

1036
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 3: a lot of things that I've seen other artists get

1037
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: involved with, you know, managers taking advantage of them. So

1038
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: that was one thing. One thing I wish I had

1039
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: have done earlier, was just bring people in. You know,

1040
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: I was very much I'm doing this by myself. I

1041
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: don't even know, this is my personal feelings, Nobody telling

1042
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: me how I'm supposed to feel. Yeah, but it wasn't

1043
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 3: until I brought other people in shout out to uh

1044
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: Lewis Yorke Claude, Kelly and Chuck Harmony, which by the.

1045
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 4: Way, Claude wrote Party in the U.

1046
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: S A by Mama Syrus and I was like, I

1047
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: won't a Party in the U. S A Type record,

1048
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: And they gave me Jenny you.

1049
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: Would you would have killed the party of the US.

1050
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 3: Part of my hands like yeah, moving my hips like yeah.

1051
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: But yes, it's too late.

1052
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: But yeah when I when when they came in, uh

1053
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: and we worked on en route. That was when I

1054
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: got my first Grammy nomination. So it's just the more

1055
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: that that that people come in that understand you, that

1056
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: see the vision, that can just embellish that.

1057
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 4: Uh. That was just key. It was. It was very simple.

1058
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: That has to come in some trust to know yeah, yeah,

1059
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: and that that that takes.

1060
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 4: But again, I have my my my family.

1061
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, I don't have any experience

1062
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: of having a machine of a label behind me. I

1063
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: do know what it feels like to have a village

1064
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 3: surround me and us reaching to the size and seeing

1065
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: what brilliance we have up in here that can help

1066
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 3: elevate something, and it's just it's been great to get

1067
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: to these moments. That's why there has really been any

1068
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: nerves or any imposter syndrome, because not only do I

1069
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: know I deserve to be exactly where I am, I

1070
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 3: have people around me that are that I'm familiar with,

1071
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: that I know that have my back.

1072
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: So that is the grounding of my piece.

1073
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 2: I love that. So that's probably a good I didn't

1074
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: get his name call.

1075
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 4: We say Wongo Mango. Yes, I thought I heard.

1076
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 2: I think for somebody like that, it's like, find.

1077
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: Your people, find your people and your community.

1078
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're out and we are out here, and

1079
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: I have to remind people, yes, niggas is crazy, solutely,

1080
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: hands down, full stop. However, there are people out here

1081
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: who are waiting for the opportunity to support us and

1082
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: to be there for us, and to be in our

1083
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: corner and to root for us and to speak highly

1084
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 3: of us in rooms where we're not in you know.

1085
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: So and also having people in your life that represent

1086
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: you well when you're not in the room.

1087
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 4: So good.

1088
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 3: Oh God, When I think about people in my life

1089
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: who represent me when I'm not in room, and I

1090
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: want to represent them well, when they're not in the room.

1091
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 2: I love that, and your parents probably start it starts there.

1092
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: This is the way you represent them and the way

1093
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 2: you talk about them, and then how they do for you.

1094
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: That's probably where you learn that from.

1095
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: I wonder what it feels like to be them, to

1096
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 3: see to have as amazing something like yes, a phenomenal entity,

1097
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: and to see but also it's to see the perfect

1098
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: hybrid of both of them. You have my mother's antics,

1099
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: you have my father's face, like just I'm a just

1100
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 3: a perfect combination of them both.

1101
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: I just wonder what that genuinely feels like.

1102
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 3: I know they're proud, but there's a certain and I

1103
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 3: felt pride before, but that's a different level.

1104
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: Of pride that I don't think I'll experience.

1105
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: And so I'm glad that I can at least see

1106
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Speaker 3: how that makes them feel.

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Speaker 2: We don't have a pride for that, but you have

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Speaker 2: pride in them.

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Speaker 4: I do, absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But you didn't make them, I know.

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00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: Actually I made them parents, Yes I did. Oh, I

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Speaker 4: sure did.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys.

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Speaker 2: Ready.

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Speaker 1: This is our IRL bowl of IRL questions, so pick one.

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00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: They're just like questions about real life. Oh, with two hands.

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00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: Nobody's ever gone on the ball with two hands?

1131
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 4: M what is it?

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00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 3: I'm at my best when about three things. I'm at

1133
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: my best when I'm rested. I'm at my best when.

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Speaker 4: I am nourished.

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00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: Food.

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00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I got to nurish ourself. I don't want

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00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: to wither away. And I'm at my best when.

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00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm around people that that make me love who I am. Yeah,

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00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: I'm and I'm gonna mention when I'm high. Okay if

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00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: nobody's asked, Okay, Well, I'm trying to raid the fridge.

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00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: My god, do you take it at one? Oh? I

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00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: love this, let's go. Mm hmmm mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: When was the last time you cried? When was this?

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00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: This is recent?

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00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: It could be of gratitude. Doesn't have to be a

1146
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: sad cry. It could be a happy cry.

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00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: No, no, well no, I'll say I think that I

1148
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 3: can think of the last time that I, like cried.

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00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: Are you a crier or I have?

1150
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 4: I have I have crying capacities?

1151
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Because we don't want to be emotionally constipated,

1152
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: you know, we gotta we gotta let it out.

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00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 4: I'll say, like, like last cry cry.

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00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: April a couple of months, was it like a sad

1155
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: cry or sad cry?

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00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 4: It was a devastation cry. But it's okay because we're growing, learning,

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00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 4: you know. But yeah, I was just like.

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00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 3: I am it's that savior complex. It's that, you know,

1159
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: trying to be everything for everybody and realizing, oh I

1160
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: am stretching myself a little too thin here, you know.

1161
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: So so yeah, that was the last time at least

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00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: a sad at least a sad crow.

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Speaker 1: What do you do when you because that is that

1164
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: is a thing that is pretty common when we stretch

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00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: ourselves too thin.

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00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: How do you recognize it? And how do you get

1167
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: out of it? How do you adjust?

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Speaker 4: Adjust?

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Speaker 3: For me, it's listening to my body. I think it's

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00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 3: important that you do check in with yourself because if

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00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 3: you don't sit down, your body will sit you down.

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00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: I know.

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00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: And have you ever been sat down?

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00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: Because I at least twice maybe three times.

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Speaker 3: When I tell you, my body will will be like

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00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 3: you keep playing with me. Absolutely, and we have to

1177
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 3: treat We have to treat our bodies like the machine

1178
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Speaker 3: that it is.

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Speaker 4: You know, and it will it will work for you

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 4: if you work with it.

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Speaker 1: So, oh my god, this I had the best advice

1182
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Speaker 1: from this. I went to a doctor and I was

1183
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: had been getting vertigo. I've been like dealing with this

1184
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: vertical shit whatever. So I went to the doctor and

1185
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: he told me. He said, I'm just going to say

1186
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: this to you. You require four things. Everything else is

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00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: a want.

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00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: You have four needs.

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Speaker 1: You have to eat, you have to drink, you have

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Speaker 1: to move your body, and you have to sleep and

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00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: everything else, family, career, love, whatever, everything else is a want.

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00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: So if you're not getting your four necessities, you have

1193
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: to reorganize your wants because what you can't do because

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00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I haven't slept because I've

1195
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: been trying to and I haven't been drinking as much.

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Speaker 1: But well, yeah, I know I need to go to gym,

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00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: but I haven't because this is so you're you're sacrificing

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Speaker 1: your four needs for the once, which is wrong because

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Speaker 1: that will put you in the hospital.

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Speaker 2: And maybe he represents like a lot of athletes.

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Speaker 1: He's a doctor for like a lot of athletes and stuff,

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00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: and he said anytime in athletes in the hospital, I

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Speaker 1: can say to them pretty confidently.

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Speaker 2: Have you been eating, drinking, sleeping and moving, moving and body?

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: If I ask all four.

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Speaker 1: Things, I guarantee you most people in the hospital something

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00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: is not one of the needs of not being met.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So just start there. And I don't know that

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Speaker 2: ship that's that.

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Speaker 3: It sounds so simple, but it's your body will baby, right,

1212
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: it really will.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know, because you have to shift, you

1214
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: have to work so hard. I didn't. I couldn't sleep

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00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: all my hours. Yeah, well, we have to guess what's

1216
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: gonna happen to you?

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00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, your body gonna take that rest and at

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Speaker 3: the most opportune time.

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Speaker 2: You going down?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? One more?

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Speaker 2: All right? Fine? Last one? Well, then I have two

1222
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Speaker 2: a couple of my own.

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Speaker 3: If you could instantly master any skill, what would it

1224
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 3: be speaking any in every language?

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Speaker 2: Ooh you in every language?

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Speaker 4: That would be baby, wait till I wait till I

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Speaker 4: get my espaniol together. Okay, because kaya.

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Speaker 2: Not just speaking. That would mean that you could sing

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Speaker 2: in every life.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Somebody told me, wait, I know exactly, teld me intelligence

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Speaker 3: told me that I need to sing uh no business

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Speaker 3: in Spanish and I need to I need to get

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Speaker 3: that together.

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Speaker 4: Can you teach me?

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: So my Spanish is awful? I'm so ashamed that I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry to say.

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 4: And then we have Martinez not knowing a bit of

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Speaker 4: s Spaniel.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not. I do know a bit. I don't

1241
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 2: know enough to teach you, and then I'll teach you wrong,

1242
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: and then everybody's gonna blame because my Spanish is not

1243
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: that great. It's really I know.

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00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: I can sing that, I go order food, I could

1245
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: get out, I could move around in any country, you know,

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00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: in the country, but it's it's embarrass to my people

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01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: if I speak public I need that is something that

1248
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: I used to be embarrassed that I used to apologize

1249
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: or be embarrassed about.

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01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: It is what it is. I work on it, I

1251
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: try to. It's something I definitely want to get better.

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01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 4: At it now that it is what it is.

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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: I'm third generation. What do you want me to do?

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01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: What do you want me to do? Okay? In real life?

1255
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: What are you most proud of about yourself? This is

1256
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 2: more like a speed right.

1257
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 4: My audacity? Mm hmmm hmm.

1258
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: In real life? What do you pray for most?

1259
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Then I wish a nigga would.

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Speaker 2: You pray.

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 4: You know, right of myself?

1262
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: And I'm niggas, But she would take that trash out okay,

1263
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: she would fold them clothes up.

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01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: What is one thing on your real life bucket list

1265
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: bucket lists that you'd like to check off?

1266
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmm do you have one?

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01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: Damnt been sky diving? I went to Fiji?

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01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: A real life bucket list? Though?

1270
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: What is that? Scared of those? You know that scared

1271
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: of what? How you just go for it?

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01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 4: I'm just like, but what is the.

1273
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: You don't have the bucket list item? Nothing? It has

1274
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: to be well.

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01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: I definitely want to go to I definitely want to

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 3: go to China and like, there's so many different spots

1277
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: that I would love.

1278
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 4: To Yeah, yeah, but do but do.

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01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean even career wise, I'm sure there's things you

1280
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: want to do.

1281
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: And you know what the super Bowl as an independent artist?

1282
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: Who and why not? Ain't know what?

1283
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 4: Kendrick meet me on side stage?

1284
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do that.

1285
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's do that.

1286
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowl as an independent artist?

1287
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: Independent artist?

1288
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: Have you even been tempted to not be an independent artist?

1289
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: Not necessarily tempting, because there hasn't been anything that has

1290
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: presented itself that was fair for everyone involved.

1291
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 4: And I'm and just to.

1292
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 3: Reiterate anytime that I mentioned that I'm independent, it's not

1293
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: to say, oh I don't need no help, you know, No,

1294
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: it's just look at how far we've gone using what

1295
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 3: little bit of resources that we've had, you know. So

1296
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: that's that's why I but I'm listening. I'm open to

1297
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 3: help as long as it's fair for everybody involved.

1298
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: What about legacy, Like, what do you want that to be?

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01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 3: I would hope first and foremost that I I inspire

1300
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 3: people to be kind to themselves, you know, give yourselves

1301
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: grace and to really take inventory on the people that

1302
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 3: are in your life. A lot of times we hold

1303
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: onto things because we've known people so long. And just

1304
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: because you've had history where somebody doesn't mean you have

1305
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: a future. So it's important that we are putting in

1306
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: our best and sometimes our best varies, you know, but

1307
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: you and give yourself grace. I would also love to

1308
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: leave behind just a plethora of ways that you can

1309
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 3: be creative and push the limits and step outside of

1310
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 3: the box. And you don't have to say this is

1311
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 3: what I am. You know, I can say what I

1312
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 3: prefer or what is nice. But I don't want to

1313
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: be just married to one thing. You know, life and

1314
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: all these things are meant to be lived and experienced.

1315
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: So live and experience the life.

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01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 2: That leads me right to my last question.

1317
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: If God would to text you right now he sent

1318
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: your text, what would it say.

1319
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: Oh, You're welcome and not for nothing God as a

1320
01:03:52,040 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 3: black woman. So I'm I, Yes, You're welcome them because

1321
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: I was I was giving life and I've been nurtured

1322
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 3: and covered by by black women all of my life.

1323
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, they have my they have I'm forever debted,

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01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: you know, So that has been.

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