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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bow Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. All let's do it live on a Tuesday

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Speaker 1: edition merely Bow and look who's back the great Sea?

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Speaker 1: Refreshed and ready? Yeah? Even is this thing on? All right?

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Speaker 1: It we'll do it live? All right? What does it

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Speaker 1: mean to play us out? I don't know about refreshed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any way to be refreshed

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Speaker 1: coming off of a red eye that you landed on

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Speaker 1: this morning. But I am bad. It wasn't the brochure,

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Speaker 1: to be fair, that it was that it was a

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Speaker 1: red eye, and then that that's the way that Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was in the broch But there's no and I

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Speaker 1: think I we prepped for this very well. We had

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Speaker 1: a lovely last day in La took full advantage of

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Speaker 1: the fact that we had a red eye, spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of time up and down the Pacific Coast Highway.

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Speaker 1: Oh there you go. How far did you get? Did

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Speaker 1: you go? Uh? Like Orange County Way or did you

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Speaker 1: go Malibu? We went Malibu there, so we went and

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Speaker 1: had some some drinks, then on at a bar over

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Speaker 1: literally sitting on the Pacific Ocean. Then we went up

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Speaker 1: to Neptune's Net. Are you familiar with Neptune's Net from

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Speaker 1: Fast and the Furious. I'm not. I've never seen any

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Speaker 1: of those. Oh wow, what yeah, man, you love it

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Speaker 1: the original especially so good. Yeah, I'm not. So that's

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Speaker 1: one of the spots they go for Dom goes before

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Speaker 1: they go to some racings. So we went up there

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Speaker 1: and then we uh ended up down at Santa Monica.

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Speaker 1: Pierre walked along the pig, I had a nice dinner

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Speaker 1: and then went to the airport and we did the

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Speaker 1: Red Eye. Well I slept, I would say the majority

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Speaker 1: of the flight, but as you know, these winds are

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Speaker 1: so crazy. We got it in an hour early. It's

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Speaker 1: like the one time you don't want to be in

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Speaker 1: But if you're sleeping, I don't sleep that one like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you sleep and you're happy. You look and you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, it's been ninety minutes. Okay, so but it's

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Speaker 1: accomplished something. It's not sitting down and no, it's not

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Speaker 1: that not refreshed. No, but then way I have a

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Speaker 1: like a great weekend. Uh can't thank them is enough

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Speaker 1: for the hospitality. And it was just it was he

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Speaker 1: going to get a cut of that nine billion? It

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Speaker 1: was incredible. I mean, he should Vince. Especially if you

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Speaker 1: see that look on Vince. It believed me. There was

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Speaker 1: there was much discussion of the look of Vincent Kennedy

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Speaker 1: macmah he looks like a Bond villain. Well, for sure.

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Speaker 1: The only guy I've ever seen try to rock that

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Speaker 1: mustache is that director from Baltimore, John Waters. It's he's

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Speaker 1: the only guy I've seen try to pull that off.

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Speaker 1: I've I don't understand how you could do that and

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going on, but there was

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Speaker 1: much discussion amongst the group about that particular look that

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Speaker 1: Vincent Kennedy McMahon is cultivating at the moment. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: where you disled it? No, you did not. So Thursday

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Speaker 1: The first night was significantly better than the second night.

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Speaker 1: the first night beaten up by Pat McAfee and George Kittle.

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Speaker 1: That was the first night, and he's doing everything with Snoop.

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Speaker 1: The second night he was the big surprise for him. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: here comes the money place. He comes out and they're

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Speaker 1: like people were shocked to see Shane because he had

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Speaker 1: shoots Mike off the ropes, Mike goes, he does like

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Speaker 1: now it's like this was supposed to be like shaneus

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Speaker 1: the main event of Night Too was Roman reigns against

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Speaker 1: him won the Royal Rumble, the whole thing. Everybody wanted

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Speaker 1: So I don't know about that decision. But well, I

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Speaker 1: Carolina on Friday with another forty points, and so they

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Speaker 1: watching greatness. And so while the game was terribly officiated

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Speaker 1: But to be fair, the men's semifinal between FAU and

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Speaker 1: there was talk. I'm sure there was, Like there had

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Speaker 1: to be had to be because he's not making that

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Speaker 1: up out of the clear blue sky. No, he could

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Speaker 1: have wanted. And that's the thing when you get a

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Speaker 1: guy a quarterback like Deshaun. Players want to play here,

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Speaker 1: he kills. I want to go from the homes to

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, but we didn't have the trade capital to

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Speaker 1: make that happen. Now could we have. Could there been

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Speaker 1: a player that they would have coveted. I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: there there probably could have been something. But in the

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Speaker 1: overall calculus, given that we had just unloaded so much

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Speaker 1: capital for Deshaun Watson that we did not have necessarily

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Speaker 1: capital again to then get tyreek Hill. In fact, you

435
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Speaker 1: were able to get Amari for a fifth and then

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Speaker 1: I've got Elijah more this year, and so that probably

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Speaker 1: is more judicious in the way of going about it.

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Speaker 1: But it was interesting, and it goes back to again,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a single receiver that was desperate to come

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland prior to us getting Deshaun Watson, right, So

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Speaker 1: that just shows you how he's regarded around the league

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Speaker 1: in terms of what well and even he just believe

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Speaker 1: he can be as as high as the stock was

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Speaker 1: on Baker coming out of the rookie year. It took

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Speaker 1: convincing for Odell. Look, you know, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: that was something he was thrilled about initially. And you know,

447
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Speaker 1: we're sure off into it. But that was to your point.

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Speaker 1: I think that that buttresses it. By the way, did

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Speaker 1: you see have you seen Glenn Cook today? Proud University

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Speaker 1: of Miami graduate Glen Cook because they got them the

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Speaker 1: final four. I was like, I saw Huskies from the distance.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this like? First, it's odd even

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Speaker 1: though Yukon won their fifth national championship by the way,

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Speaker 1: one more than Kansas five in the last how long

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Speaker 1: since ninety nine, twenty five years? Yeah, that's incredible. Three

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Speaker 1: different coaches that they are the dynasty then that to me.

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Speaker 1: There to me, the doppelganger for them is Miami Football

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Speaker 1: Hurricanes in that they have this window of dominance, but

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Speaker 1: intermixed is wild stretches of irrelevancy, Like they had a

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Speaker 1: four year stretch where they weren't even five hundred. So

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Speaker 1: like they have that in there too. They have three

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Speaker 1: different coaches, much like Miami they have three A bunch

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Speaker 1: of different coaches have done it there um and it

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Speaker 1: also feels like one administrative mistake and they would be

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Speaker 1: off a cliff. So like they were in the American Conference,

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Speaker 1: they weren't in the Big East for a few years. Um,

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Speaker 1: and their current administrations like, we've got to look forget

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Speaker 1: about football. What matters here is basketball and we have

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Speaker 1: got to protect our basketball programs. We cannot be playing

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Speaker 1: in the American Conference. So they got him back in

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Speaker 1: the Big East and hoops and it really salvaged the program.

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Speaker 1: So they won. So you said ninety nine. So they've

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Speaker 1: won with what Daniel Marshall no A Mecca Oka for

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Speaker 1: Rip Hamilton klit el Amine Kemba Walker Kemba was incredible. Um.

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Speaker 1: Um they won with um Oh my gosh, it was

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Speaker 1: the name of the guy that lebron like, Shabazz Napier

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Speaker 1: and the heat took him and then they won with

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Speaker 1: this group. But they've won with Jim Calhoun, Kevin Ollie

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Speaker 1: and now Dan Hurley ken Kenly won that they were

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Speaker 1: a seven seed that year when Napier took him to

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Speaker 1: the title. Um, and and they won it. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's an odd thing because they

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Speaker 1: have as many national championships as Duke. Yet no one

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Speaker 1: would confuse Duke with Connecticut from a program standpoint, confused

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Speaker 1: in Kansas with Connecticut from a program standpoint. But they

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Speaker 1: have this twenty five year run of five five years stunning,

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Speaker 1: crazy crazy. I mean Kentucky's won one in that period,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky one, they won five. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, it is,

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Speaker 1: it is. Speaking of college basketball, we can we can

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Speaker 1: close this out with this. Um, Jim Nance, we mentioned

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Speaker 1: the final call. We have that for you. So let's

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Speaker 1: have a listen to Nance on his final call of

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Speaker 1: college basketball. Um, here's a listen courtesy of CBS. One

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Speaker 1: thing I learned to all of this is everybody has

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Speaker 1: a dream and everybody has a story to tell. Just

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Speaker 1: try to find that story behind. You've told it better

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Speaker 1: than most. Let me tell you. Can I tell you

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Speaker 1: one other thing? I mean this, I have to try

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Speaker 1: and to play all devil friends. But to you, everybody

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Speaker 1: in the college game, my CBS family and my family

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Speaker 1: and all the viewers, thank you for being my friend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he was dusty at the end. Thank can you

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Speaker 1: please turn the music down? Thank you. I think I

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Speaker 1: think that he went off script, No doubt those from

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Speaker 1: his heart, because when they start playing that music, you

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Speaker 1: know they're tossing to break. I think that they didn't

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Speaker 1: think that he was going to say that then, because

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Speaker 1: he has to do the trophy presentation, which is which

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Speaker 1: comes later. So I don't think that the director thought

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Speaker 1: that we were going there and then Nance just went

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Speaker 1: there because I think in Nance's mind he probably thought,

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Speaker 1: this is my last game broadcast. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do it on the stage. I'm not doing on

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Speaker 1: the stage, and I don't want it to come I

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Speaker 1: don't want Greg tossing to me after we do that

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Speaker 1: with Grant and them, like, I'm doing it now. This

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Speaker 1: is the biggest audience. I'm doing it right now. It's

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game. And I think it

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Speaker 1: was probably not what was planned. The director, producer was hit,

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Speaker 1: the music tossed to break. We'll do the trophy presentation next. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: so I think that's probably how that happened. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gotta pot it down. I'm fine with it playing underneath

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Speaker 1: because it's so synonymous with him. Correct pot down, but

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Speaker 1: it's got to be. It was hot, came in really hot,

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Speaker 1: just a little this side a little bit. There's there

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Speaker 1: is something about it though. I mean, if you think

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Speaker 1: about it, CBS going from the Final Four to the Masters,

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Speaker 1: nothing has really changed in the broadcast approach to either

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Speaker 1: in any of our lifetimes, where all men were forty.

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Speaker 1: It's the same music, it ends with one shining moment,

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Speaker 1: it's the same voices. Nance has been on it our

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Speaker 1: whole lives. Not at the games, the game since ninety one,

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Speaker 1: but he's on the halftime pregame going into the mid eighties.

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Speaker 1: As far as any of us can remember, he's been there,

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Speaker 1: same thing with the Masters, same Nance. Old Verne's gonna

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Speaker 1: come back. So he wanted Nance said this, he wanted

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Speaker 1: this to be it. Yeah. I think it's familyhim. He's

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Speaker 1: got a young he's got young kids now and he's

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Speaker 1: you think about it from a travel standpoint of view

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Speaker 1: that I saw yesterday, and he's got two young kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's just the NFL's almost six months now, ye yep. Well,

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Speaker 1: and guys, just from the standpoint as we all know,

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Speaker 1: living at Pebble Beach, it's a hard place to get to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Monterey Peninsula is tough, even with private aviation, which obviously

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Speaker 1: he has, but still it's a long ways from Houston

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Speaker 1: to the Monterey Peninsula, long ways. And if you're going

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Speaker 1: three and a half four, oh gosh, you think and

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Speaker 1: then he's doing Augusta, you think about he's going big

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Speaker 1: ten Championship is an indie. Yeah, so he does the

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Speaker 1: Big ten tournament and then three weeks of the NCAA

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Speaker 1: and then Augusta. He's basically on the road for even

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Speaker 1: if he's home for a day here or there, it's

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Speaker 1: basically on the road for five weeks straight. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a lot, and he don't he don't need to do it.

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Speaker 1: He's no and Iron Eagles taking over. Yeah, Birdman like

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Speaker 1: it now. I don't know if they'll revamp Gibby and

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Speaker 1: I were talking about the yesterday. Do they do something

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Speaker 1: with Hill and Raftree or do they just pay a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense. If they want to do it, now

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Speaker 1: would be the time. Ye. Yeah, I don't know who

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Speaker 1: I mean that would be to put Hill within Grant Hill.

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Speaker 1: I'm a dukie, I get it. Not impressive as an announcer. Well,

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Speaker 1: raft three is so great. Yeah that it's but you

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Speaker 1: almso don't need a third. You don't need a third really,

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Speaker 1: But I think they're trying to protect against I mean

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Speaker 1: Rafts up there, correct, you know he's up there a

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Speaker 1: little bit. So all right, lots to get you on

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Speaker 1: the program. Today, we'll continue our tour of around the

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Speaker 1: league with various teams. In fact, today we'll be taking

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Speaker 1: a look at the Arizona Cardinals. Howard Ballser will join

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Speaker 1: us on that front. We've got a little better or

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Speaker 1: worse ap We'll be joining us here in studio for that.

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Speaker 1: partner of your Cleveland Browns. It is Master's Week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Champions dinner tonight. What could go wrong there? I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be respectful. But I was reading this fun I grabbed.

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Speaker 1: I think Golf Die District Golf magazine with the two

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're the same now it

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Speaker 1: used to be back today, there's one great consequence. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I read the whole Master's preview and they're talking about

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Speaker 1: the dinner and they expect it to be civil, but

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Speaker 1: they're seeing people in a very smart way. Suppose, well,

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Speaker 1: I who's like the most outward critic of liv who

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Speaker 1: will be there? Tiger Tiger, because Rory's not going, He's

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Speaker 1: not a winner. He never go there. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with Patrick Reid. Yeah, sucks Phil, Phil,

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Speaker 1: But I think Phil will be I think he can

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Speaker 1: play a little bit of a heel he is, but

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Speaker 1: I think he forever, he was a baby face forever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think he could revert back pretty quickly, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll do anything to I think he's

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Speaker 1: smart enough to not do anything to ever risk Augusta

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Speaker 1: saying don't come back. No, I had I heard somebody

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Speaker 1: this morning say, um, you know, like read kept like

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Speaker 1: all those guys are gonna be invited back forever because

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Speaker 1: their former champions. They can play it forever. August can

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Speaker 1: do whatever the hell they want. They change that tomorrow

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Speaker 1: if they want to. They could go tomorrow. Like let's

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Speaker 1: say this dinner went bad and there was a bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff that came out of it. Yeah, Augusta could

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Speaker 1: throw people out of the tournament tonight. Ye. See on

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Speaker 1: down the road, you're not welcome list. They do what

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Speaker 1: ever they want. Man, they do what ever they want.

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Speaker 1: So I as I've seen, like the Greg Norman comments

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Speaker 1: about Alleen of us are going to rush to the

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Speaker 1: green if one of our guys wins. Uh no, don't

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Speaker 1: do that. If you want to be invited back, I

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Speaker 1: saw not invited by the way to the Masters. No,

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Speaker 1: you saw them like the live guys are wearing like

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Speaker 1: those ridiculous team patches. Live team patches. They're making them wear,

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Speaker 1: actually doing that. It's done, that's gone nowhere nothing. Um,

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Speaker 1: so they're doing that. They've got all the pairings are

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Speaker 1: out and everybody it's all politically correct and it's all separate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no one, it's no one that could be. There's no

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Speaker 1: got by some of the Dan Instagram because it was

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Speaker 1: also six in the morning and I was not on

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Speaker 1: social media right away half hour back. Everybody everybody sawing

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Speaker 1: about it. Everybody. By the way, speaking of social media,

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Speaker 1: you see that the bird has been replaced by the

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Speaker 1: dog on Twitter? What Yeah, the dog is now the logo.

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Speaker 1: Not only by the way, social media crew who comes

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Speaker 1: in here yesterday digital people, and they're like, we are

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Speaker 1: here to officially verify Cleveland Brown's daily and I was like,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? In the Twitter world these days?

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Speaker 1: We have a blue check mark? Now I got I

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Speaker 1: got mine legacy. I thought it was gonna be gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've never had one. No, that's ridiculous, it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's strange. They m it's odd. Both the stations in Columbus,

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Speaker 1: both CBS and the Fan neither one of them. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they didn't pursue them or what, but

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Speaker 1: no one was down. There was ever huh was ever verified?

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Um, but anyway, Yeah, so well

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Speaker 1: so that's good. So they got that done. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. Do you know what that What

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Speaker 1: does that even mean? What verified? It either means you

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Speaker 1: are or you've paid for it, but there's no way

644
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Speaker 1: of determining which as you did. No, so I thought

645
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Speaker 1: I was gonna I thought mine was going to go away.

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Speaker 1: And then I click on my blue check now and

647
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Speaker 1: it says that this account is verified because it subscribed

648
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Speaker 1: Twitter blue or is a legacy very fight account. I

649
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Speaker 1: did not subscribe to Twitter blue, so I can deduce

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Speaker 1: from that that they have deemed me a legacy legacy

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Speaker 1: verified LV by the way. Following up on our conversation

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Speaker 1: bow yesterday about Live, Yeah, and if you bring me

653
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Speaker 1: back to make fun of me and then exclude me

654
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Speaker 1: in the first conversation that you bring up if you

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Speaker 1: try to leave the Live tour, Yeah, it wasn't intentional

656
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: on that time. Trust me, you'll know when I so

657
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Speaker 1: give it. Yesterday said that in order for a Live

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Speaker 1: guy to get back to the PGA Tour, they would

659
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Speaker 1: have to pay four times or plus their bonus was

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Speaker 1: to come back, which sounds like not feasible. Came from

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated. Yeah, and that still all stands sported that

662
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Speaker 1: Live contracts have a penalty clause that would require players

663
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Speaker 1: to pay two, three or four times they're signing, oh,

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Speaker 1: in order to break agreements the Live contract, not the PGA. Okay,

665
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: so the pj's not saying this is what you're paying us,

666
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: This is what Live is saying. This is what you're

667
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay to get out of this. So

668
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Speaker 1: you're of it. Yeah, we own you is the way

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00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: that they're gonna go. So yeah, look that's it's like

670
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Speaker 1: we said. I think I said this yesterday, like it's

671
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: the mad Men line. That's what the money's for. So

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play in the c W where the team

673
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: patches and do all this stuff that's team games are

674
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: absurd too, they are ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Um, Champions Dinner,

675
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: what are you serving? I'd probably do like a classic,

676
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: start with what's the app a little because it's the

677
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: Champions inner, and I can not limit myself, so I

678
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Speaker 1: don't know it as you want to. I don't have

679
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: to do a strom cocktail. I probably do a nice

680
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: lobster tail cocktail. I like it. Start with that great

681
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: warm or cold cold ye table side caesar. Maybe throw

682
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: some crabbing leagues with the entree on the table for everybody,

683
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: just because why wouldn't you want to have them there?

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00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Everybody would want to. And then I'm gonna have a

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00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: nice prime rib medium rare, medium rare, many slices as

686
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: you want. Maybe some truffled mashed potatoes or some rosemary

687
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: freats would be nice, and then I like it, and

688
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: then my little steakhouse broccoli that I like to do,

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00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: and then my dessert would for sure be a table

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00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: side bananas foster. Such an elite dessert. Really it's the best.

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00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: It's so good when it when done the appropriate way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just to watch a man make caramel

693
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Speaker 1: whoever you want to say it, to watch them make

694
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Speaker 1: it before your very eyes, and then know that soon

695
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a nice banana in that that's been

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00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: kind of torched a little bit. Is a real tree

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Speaker 1: fla bade throw a little ice cream melt through documentary looking,

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Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out what the dinner menu

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Speaker 1: was tonight because I had seen it somewhere and I'm

700
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Speaker 1: trying to go through it. Yeah, I could. Also, I

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Speaker 1: have just had a thought, since I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 1: crab legs on the table as well for the surf

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00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: and turf. We don't need the lobster cocktail. It's too much.

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00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a clean hamachi halapeno like no

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00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: Boo style as the as the okayap all right, it

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Speaker 1: says the dinner is paid for by the outgoing champion,

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Speaker 1: So Scottie Scheffler is paying for the dinner according to this,

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Speaker 1: So that's why he's doing sliders. No he is. He's

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Speaker 1: doing sliders, Shrimp, He's doing like some sort of hot shrimp. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's doing a I don't remember what the salad is. Uh,

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00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: it is a Texas ribby. He is doing that. Um.

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00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: And then he's got warm cookies. Uh and an ice

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00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: cream and milk is the dessert. So his his dinner

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Speaker 1: is the Yeah, the cheeseburgers, sliders, the firecracker shrimp. Yeah,

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00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: first course, tortilla, soup, no salad, Texas ribby, steak or

716
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: blackened redfish. Okay, red fish is very good. Chocolate chip cookies,

717
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: skillet Yep, that's gonna got a skillet cookie. It's gonna

718
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: be just that's really good warm and then you put

719
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: that little the little ice cream on top of that

720
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: just goes all the way through. Yeah. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that you need cheeseburger sliders before a ribbi. That's redundant

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Speaker 1: course served with sides of mac and cheese, hallapeno cream, corn,

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00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: russell sprouts, and season Hallepeno cream. Count talked to what

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Speaker 1: was the last two season fries, season fries and fried

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00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts. Okay, that's a heavy meal. It's a lot

726
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: going on there, especially choosing the soup. Tortia tortilla. It

727
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: soup is a heavy soup. It can be a more brothy.

728
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: It varies, but yes, and generally speaking, the tortilla soup

729
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: has avocado, crispy blue tortilla strips, sour cream, cilantro, and lime.

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Speaker 1: Get rid of that sour cream, you know, Yeah, wants

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00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: any of that. I think he's trying to take some

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00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: people out. Could be this feels like a meal where

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00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: you're trying to take somebody out. It could be. Wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be surprised. Yeah, my meals for us all to live.

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00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: Everybody lives and enjoy. That's what you want. Yeah, it

736
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: was some nice wine. Yeah, that's the way you do it. Um.

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00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: So it starts so the love of Championship dinner and

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Speaker 1: then Thursday we go, there we go tigers. Do you

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Speaker 1: see the pictures from his practice round? Does he look great?

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00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: I have no idea how he played. I'm just looking

741
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Speaker 1: at the crowd size first ten deep watch a fifty

742
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Speaker 1: year old really is oh Man absolutely is getting some

743
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Speaker 1: people on Twitter saying that Jim Nance moved to Nashville.

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00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that he moved to Nashville. I think

745
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: that he bought a house there to help with the

746
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: NFL scheduling. That's why Herbie moved there too, is because

747
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: it was more closer to much of the operations that

748
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: from a from a college standpoint. I know he bought

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Speaker 1: a home there, Yeah, in in Nashville and uses that

750
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: sometimes during the NFL season, but he lives at Pebble Beach.

751
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: That's where the house is. Living at Pebble I mean

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00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: it's it's literally in the brochure. Yeah. Pretty good. Um,

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00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: all right, coming up, we will go around the league

754
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: some of the interesting stuff coming out of New England

755
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick and Mac Jones. We'll get to that

756
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: coming up next. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought

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Speaker 1: to you you by bally Bet, coming soon to Ohio one

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Speaker 1: All right, time to go around the league. And this

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Speaker 1: is from Polish. You can't just can't do that policy Polish.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you're up, and we got a spot

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Speaker 1: to do well. I don't even have it, so yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we sent it over to me. I get yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Jordan sent it over Jordan Center. Sure, yes, I am positive.

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Speaker 1: I was checking it was sent over about a half

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Speaker 1: hour ago, and I just wanted to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you during the show. It was sent over. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: was sent over. Okay, so I don't email up doing

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Speaker 1: the show, doing the show, I thought, I And that's no, yes,

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Speaker 1: no I don't. So, yes, I can do that. I'm

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Speaker 1: able to thank you more than capable dropping the bomb

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Speaker 1: on you. I'm sorry that that's on me. I should

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Speaker 1: have pre warned you. Sorry about that. Bo Bo, you

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Speaker 1: have a child out of wedlock. You're up? Oh okay,

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00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: all right, right, thanks, all right, then let's uh, let's

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00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: attack that um probably equally as shocking, maybe not quite that,

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00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: but close. Mike Florio Pro Football Talk, there's been a lot,

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00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: uh well, let's before we get to Odell stuff, we

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00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: tease the Belichick mac Jones thing. I wanted to start there.

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00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: So we talked about this a little bit yesterday, and

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00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: then this was news last week with Craft and now

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00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: the news coming out Pro Football Talk. I'm not sure

784
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: where it originated from, but Pro Football Talk iggregated it

785
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick was reportedly shopping Mac Jones and that

786
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: there's tension between Belichick and mac Jones. So There's a

787
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: ton of layers to this. Most interesting to me is

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00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: that mac Jones would have beef this. I just he

789
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: seems so young to have beef. Belichickable guy, and he

790
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: does not seem likable. He remember he did like the

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00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: Vincent Kennedy McMahan walk to the stage here. That happened here,

792
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: that long walk when he was drafted by the Patriots. Um, yeah,

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00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: it's so. And apparently they're shopping him pentual according to this,

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00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: not much interest in mac Jones on the market. Yeah,

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00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: why would there be? I don't know. And it's an

796
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: interesting spot because we talked about this a little bit yesterday.

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00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: Let's do a little real truth. Bill Belichick will break

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00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: the NFL all time wins record in New England. He's

799
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: about forty away. It feels unlikely to me. I agree,

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00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: it feels unlikely. But will he break it? Yes, exactly agree.

801
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's coming to the end. Here.

802
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: He goes to team that's ready because what's undone him

803
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: here is Bill Belichick the general manager, not the coach. Yes,

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00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: So he goes to a place that's ready made, that's

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00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: trying to get over the hump, an organization starving for success.

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00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: It feels like it's got everything. He comes in. You

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00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: could see him if Miami stays like ready made, probably

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00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: he probably, I think he would go NFC. I don't

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00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: even know if he would care about the association with

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00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Honestly, were you wonder about nostalgia with him? Like,

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00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: would he ever want to go back to the Giants?

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00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's where he cut his teeth as a coordinator.

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00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: But I think he would want you'd want to go

814
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: to like a ready made situation. I think he's lived

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00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: life without a quarterback. The Giants though, are not already

816
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: They're not readymation. No, no, no, no, you'd have to

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00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: go to a place where you have the quarterback in place. Yeah,

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00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: he's not going to go screw around trying to do

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00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: what he's been doing since Brady left. Correct, he's lived

820
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: life with him without Tom Brady, it's significantly better with him. Yep.

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00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: So he's not doing that. So is that like Chargers

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00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: with Herbert? That would be one that set up Dallas.

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00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: Jarah has done it before. He did it with with Parcels,

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Speaker 1: and he did it with Parcels Control and Jerry can't

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00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: help himself. No, but he did play nice with Parcels

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Speaker 1: for a little bit to legitimize. Remember they were like

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Speaker 1: they went from like Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, like he

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00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: pulled him off the off the recruiting trail at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't the coaching o claim at that time. He

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00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: was literally just glad handing people in Norman and got

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Speaker 1: him to coach the Cowboys remembers like Dave Campo and

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Speaker 1: those guys. And then somehow he then he got Parcels.

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00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: So he's done it before with that. Um, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on up there though, to say

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Speaker 1: the least in that situation. And when Craft those comments

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Speaker 1: from Craft that we're talking about yesterday where he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, we gotta win, We've got to be a

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Speaker 1: playoff team. You're the fourth team in the NFC AFC East, buddy,

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Speaker 1: buy a wide margin at that distance. And that's with

840
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: not even knowing who's quarterbacking the third team currently in

841
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: that correction. Correct, Yes, and yet I mean we lived it.

842
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: He came in here with Bailey Zappy and whipped us. Yes.

843
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: So he can still coach it, yes, at a very

844
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: very high level. He just he can't draft it. And

845
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: and so that's that's part of it. So there's a

846
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: lot to pay attention to with that situation in New England.

847
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: Mac Jones with no value, dude, it's tough man, Dude.

848
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: Look at again our quarterback. Prior to this, Baker was

849
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: the first overall pick yep, led the team to the

850
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: playoffs yep, and set that the time the rookie record

851
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: for passing touchdowns did not have value. Mac Jones no

852
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: value because mac Jones number one is clearly not good

853
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: enough to ever be the guy too, he's probably too

854
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: good to be awful. And three, it seems like he's

855
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: slightly dyscourteous and rather petulant. Yeah not fun. Yeah. Speaking

856
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: of Florio, this is there were rumors that the Ravens

857
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: offered Odella deal and the Jets seemed to be the

858
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: other team that's really in on him, and then maybe

859
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: the Rams as well. Florio was on Pro Football Talk

860
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: and asking about what ob j was asking for. Here's Florio.

861
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: No one has signed him, Chris, because he continues to

862
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: want more than anyone will offer. I was told twenty

863
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: million is what he's seeking, or at least his agents

864
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: were seeking. Now it's softened Rich Sumini of ESPN dot

865
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: com over the weekend says, the thought is he now

866
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: wants fifteen million on a one year deal. Still too

867
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: rich for the teams out there that are interested in.

868
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: I think they just keep waiting and waiting for those

869
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: expectations to drop. Can I interest you in five or six?

870
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: All right? So on an average per year basis, here's

871
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: what you got. Tyreek Hill thirty, Davante Adams twenty eight,

872
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: Deandrey Hopkins twenty seven, Cooper Cup twenty six, AJ Brown

873
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: twenty five, Digs twenty four, DK Metcalf twenty four, Debo

874
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: twenty four, McLaurin twenty four, DJ More twenty, Keenan Allen,

875
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, amari, Chris godd On all twenty, Deontay Johnson eighteen,

876
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk eighteen, Tyler Lockett seventeen, Mike Evans sixteen. I mean,

877
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: man Hunter Renfo was getting fifteen and a half per year,

878
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Allan Robinson fifteen and a half, Courtland's Sutton fifteen. So

879
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: and then there's nobody between twelve and fifteen in the

880
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: whole league. He in my mind, it feels like he's

881
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: looking at commanders again, Curtis Samuel's at eleven, Michael Gallops eleven,

882
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: Allen Zard's eleven, Jacobe Myers is eleven, Tyler Boyd's eleven.

883
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: That's to me the realm. So I was low saying eight,

884
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: but it's probably around ten ten mart that's what Marquez

885
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: Valda is scaling. Got three years ten catastrophic injuries though, right, like, jeez,

886
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: twenty sixteens a long time ago. Man, Yes, yeah, you know,

887
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: come on, how about you be realistic because you can't. Okay,

888
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: you worked out for a bunch of people and caught

889
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: the ball one hand, and twenty times one year deals

890
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: are quote unquote those are prove it deals, and so

891
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: you sign a one year deal, it's a little bit

892
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: lower because you say, I'm going to show them and

893
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna catch it. Trying to get a one

894
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: year deal at a premium value, yeah, you know, at

895
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: fifteen million in that range, it's basically saying he's a

896
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: top twenty receive in the NFL, right now. Yeah, he's not.

897
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: Here's the cold, but it certainly fonds against it. The

898
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: production hasn't been that way a very long time. A

899
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: top twenty receiver in the NFL, you would feel like,

900
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: to me, like, go to Kansas City and catch play

901
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: in that offense and play with mahomes for a year

902
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: and and see how that goes with them. Stay healthy,

903
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: play for lesson and try to prove it. That to

904
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: me makes the most sense in that situation. Georgie's defensive

905
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: tackle Jalen Carter, who's had a very very interesting offseason

906
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: to say the least, refusing to meet with any teams

907
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: outside of the top ten. Gibby wants to no good

908
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: move or bad move? Could we see more prospects in

909
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: the future doing the same. Definitely gotten a little traction

910
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: here recently. Yeah, Drew Rosenhouse as his agent and he

911
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: advised him to do that. Yeah. I think the message

912
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: they're sending is is whatever happened with this whatever? This

913
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 1: was all the day one of the combine that he's

914
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: going top ten well, and they were worried about his

915
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: the workout. You know, he wasn't a great chape to workout.

916
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's going eat Listen, you don't need to

917
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: meet with a team to get drafted by him. If

918
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: he falls out of top ten, somebody's still going to

919
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: draft him. So Yeah, why doesn't really need to know ye.

920
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, we continue our look around

921
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. We will head out to the Valley of

922
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: the Sun. The Arizona Cardinals. Howard Baser will join us

923
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: on that very interesting last year for them. That is

924
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: coming up next. Realist to Cleve The Browns Daily brought

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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. We continue our look around the NFL, and

931
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 1: we are out west in the Valley of the Sun,

932
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: a place that is gorgeous and near and dear to

933
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: your heart. You were buried out there the great yesterday

934
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: you go. We are joined by the Great Howard Balls

935
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: are joining us covers the Cardinals, NFL reporter for p

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Speaker 1: Keep it twisted Cleveland, boy, Howard, what a difference a

939
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: year makes for the Cardinals to think about where you

940
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: were coming out of that season a year ago and

941
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: where you are now. How do you put that? How

942
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: can you put that into perspective for us in Browns fans? Wow,

943
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's it's difficult because I've never seen

944
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: and granted I'm not well I cover the league certainly overall,

945
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm not on a daily basis watching everything that happens

946
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: with every team in the league. But certainly I've never

947
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: been involved with anything. And I would be hard pressed

948
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: to find a team that had as much happened off

949
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: the field, on the field, injuries, whatever you want to list,

950
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: that had as much to happen in one calendar year

951
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: as the Cardinals did last season. And the part about it, guys,

952
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: is that many of the things that happened created other things.

953
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: For example, and I'll just give you one one. As

954
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: we're approaching the draft, is the Cardinals didn't know if

955
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson was going to come back and play, and

956
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: he was talking about retiring, and the Cardinals had the

957
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: twenty third pick in the first round, and all indications

958
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: were that they were thinking of drafting Tyler Linderbaum, who

959
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: ended up going to Baltimore and starting every game. Well,

960
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: then the Cardinals find out, I'm not exactly sure when

961
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: this was, but it was shortly before the draft. They

962
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: find out that DeAndre Hopkins is going to be suspended

963
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: for the first six games of the season. And now

964
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: they're looking at, oh, my goodness, what's that receiver corps

965
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: going to look like? And so what they end up

966
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: doing is on draft Day trading that number one picked

967
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: to the Ravens for Marquise Hollywood Brown and so that

968
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: kept them. They were going to draft Linderbaund and they didn't,

969
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: and so then here they are in that situation. And

970
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: then Hudson comes back, decides to play and then gets

971
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, is bothered with a chronic knee injury, plays

972
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: four games and has gone for the rest of the

973
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: season and now has probably done with football. And if

974
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: you really look back, guys at this team's record the

975
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: last two years when Rodney Hudson played and when he didn't,

976
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: it's glaring. I mean, it's pretty unbelievable. What you know,

977
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: they were very very good with him and pretty darned

978
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: bad without him. In fact, last year they were two

979
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: and two in the four games he played, and then

980
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: what two and eleven in the others. So that's just

981
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: one example of the things that happened. Injuries mounted. It

982
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: was just one thing after or another and ended up

983
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: in a bad record. The owner, Michael Bidwell, decided to

984
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: make total changes in the organization, even though the team

985
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: had shown pretty good progress for the first you know, first,

986
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, four years of Cliff Kingsbury and well the

987
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: first three years and then the bad year and now

988
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: they're starting over, and boy, it's been so like I said,

989
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: it's hard to put it in perspective because with all

990
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: the different things. I wrote one story during the season,

991
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know, calling it a soap opera, and

992
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: it really was because you wondered every day what was

993
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: going to happen to this team, and most of the

994
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: time something did. Yeah, And it felt like at least

995
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago that Kyler and Cliff would

996
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: be joined at the hip. And you mentioned the soap

997
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: opera Kyler's contract, the detail in it that he needed

998
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: to watch his film, and which the fact that was

999
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: in there to me means that the contract probably never

1000
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: should have been offered in the first place. Then they

1001
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: get the peer pressure they get it taken out. What

1002
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: do you make of that whole situation and the fact

1003
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: that Kyler now is coming off injury, He's still here,

1004
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: Cliff is gone. And I can tell you, just as

1005
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: anecdotally because I was just recently in Scottsdale area, none

1006
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: of the overdrivers believe in Kyler Murray. I can tell

1007
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: you that much, not at all. So what's kind of

1008
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: the what's the pulse on that? And again I go

1009
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: back to the fact that that was in that contract

1010
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 1: that to me seemed like things were going towards straight,

1011
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: towards disarray. Noah, no question about it. And the other

1012
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: part I'll just inject is that what was overlooked in

1013
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: the contract and not talked about enough a lot because

1014
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: of the whole controversy over the independent study clause, was

1015
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: the fact that the Cardinals put nine million dollars in

1016
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: the six years of the new contract, which covers two years.

1017
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: He was already under contract, but in the six years

1018
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: of the new deal they had nine million dollars of

1019
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: incentive clauses for showing up at the offseason program. So

1020
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: what does that tell you They had to incentivize the

1021
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: quarterback and the face of the franchise. Now, a lot

1022
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: of guys have offseason bonuses, but they're not an average

1023
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: of one point five million dollars a year, so they

1024
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: had to incentivize that. That spoke to a lot of

1025
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: the things you're just saying, and then he goes out

1026
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: and tears his acl In terms of the pulse, I

1027
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: think in the valley it's split. You know, there's some

1028
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: who just you know, follow him no matter I think

1029
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: he's the greatest, no matter what, and others really have

1030
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. And I put myself in the

1031
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: middle of it in terms of the questions because I've

1032
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: seen what he can do when he's healthy, and they

1033
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: have the talent around them. But the reality is, in

1034
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: four seasons he's had eight different injuries, and five of

1035
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: them to his legs, and that two years prior to

1036
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: this past one were compromised down the stretch by a

1037
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: bunch of other injuries. But the fact that he was

1038
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: playing injury and that affected the way he played and

1039
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: the team didn't play well. Everyone, I shouldn't say everyone,

1040
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: but there was that whole narrative put out there. Well,

1041
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: it's Cliff Kingsbury. He's always had bad finishes in his

1042
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, in his coaching career. Well, yeah, in college

1043
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: they had Texas Tech. They have a good record at

1044
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: the halfway point after playing all the Patchi's on the schedule, sure,

1045
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: and then when you start getting into conference playing, you're

1046
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: playing in Texas and Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, Baylor and whoever.

1047
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: You're losing to those teams because they're better than you.

1048
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: That was the That was the narrative that's put out there,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was, you know, a lazy narrative, I

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00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: like to call it. But a lot of it was

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00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: the injuries and the fact that Kyler Murray was playing injury.

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00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: So it's very difficult to get a true handle on

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00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: what this new regime thinks about them. Obviously they say

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00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: all the right things, what a great skill set. Jonathan

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00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: Gann and the new head coach talking about well, you know,

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00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: we played them last year, and I know how tough

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00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: it was to prepare for him, which is true. There's

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00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: no question that you know. It can make defensive coordinators

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00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: stay up late at night figuring out, hey, how are

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00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: we going to deal with this? But again, that's when

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00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: he's healthy, and I don't believe that type of quarterbacking

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: is sustainable. We've heard already in Chicago the coaching staff

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00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: talking about Justin Fields has to cut down and is running.

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00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: We heard Sean mc dermott talk about it with Josh Allen,

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00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: and Allen's a big guy as opposed to Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: who's who's five ten, and so there's there's a lot

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00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: of questions. But they're linked to this contract now, which

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00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to figure out how they

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00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: could even if they wanted to get out of it,

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00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, in the next year or two, if they

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00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: wanted to. So there's there's a real issue there. And

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Speaker 1: if they trade DeAndre Hopkins, which is what everybody believes

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00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: is going to happen, then and they really have to

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00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: upgrade the offensive line, then even when he's available to play,

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: you're taking a risk putting him out there and seeing

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00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: if if there's more injuries. So there's a lot a

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00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: lot of questions surrounding this team and this organization as

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00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: they move forward to this twenty twenty three season. And

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Speaker 1: you know, the damnedest thing about this, like you, as

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00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: you go through all of that, you say, boy from

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00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: from thirty thousand feet, what are the Arizona Cardinals are

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: they I mean they're picking third in the draft. In

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00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: a way, they control it because quarterbacks are going one two,

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00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: So if they want to trade back and if somebody

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00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: wants to come up and get a quarterback at three,

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00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: they have a lot of power there and maybe that's

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00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: a way to accumulate some more assets. They've got a

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00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: quarterback that based on what you're saying and based on

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00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: what we've we kind of feel like coming off a

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: big time injury, by the way, you don't know what

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00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: power or say or belief there is with him in

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00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: the organization. In the meantime, you have some of these

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00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: veterans like Hopkins who are still hanging out there. What

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00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: is the best course of action for them as a franchise. Yeah,

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00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a great question. And you know some

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00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: think it's moving on from Kyler Murray, but then who

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00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: who is the quarterback? And then that raises all kinds

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00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 1: of other questions. So it's sure scenes and appears that

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00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: come hell or high water at least, you know when

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00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: he comes back from injury, and then build this thing

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: as many I think that they're going to try to

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00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: get as many draft choices as they can I've characterized

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00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: their free agency, which they signed nineteen players. Guys they've resigned,

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00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: and they signed nineteen guys in the three weeks so

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00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: far of the league year. And Zach Allen, who was

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00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: a really good defensive lineman on this team, went to

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00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: Denver and he got more. He himself got more guaranteed

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00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: money and a bigger signing bonus than the total of

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00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: the nineteen players the Cardinals signed. So they're just signing

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys will come in and compete for

1111
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: spots at different places and play special teams and whatever.

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00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: But they certainly haven't signed any difference makers for this team.

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00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure what they're hoping for is they'll get them

1114
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: in the draft. And so the jury is out, but

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00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: it looks like their plans to build the best team

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00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: they can around Kyler Murray, protect him and then be

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00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: able to bring out in him the best that he has.

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00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: But the question is if they're savvy enough to do that.

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01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: They've you guys know, they hired um, you know, Drew

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Speaker 1: Petsing as the offensive coordinator and there their coaching staff.

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01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Boy that it's as green as grass I mean in

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: terms of NFL experience, they've got ten guys on the

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01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff beyond the coordinators that only have

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01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: that have won or no years of NFL coaching experience,

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01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: and so they're they're just entering this doing it in

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01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: a lot of new ways. But like I said, it's

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01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: going to come down to this, you know, to the

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna draft. You know, the

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01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: one thing that people forget, guys, is when a new

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01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: general manager comes in. He did bring in a guy

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01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: from Detroit, Dave Sears, as assistant general manager. That general

1132
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: new general managers monte Asenport from Tennessee. But you're pretty

1133
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: much hamstrung for your first draft to use whoever's been

1134
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: there before, because you just can't make wholesale changes when

1135
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: you come to a team in January or February with

1136
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: the draft a little bit away, and all this work

1137
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: has been done by the scouts and the personnel people

1138
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: that are there, and so he's got to kind he's

1139
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: got to obviously count on his own evaluations, but along

1140
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: with what the scouts have already done. So it's very

1141
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: difficult to really look at this and see what they're

1142
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: going to do different Aside from trying to get as

1143
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: many picks as possible to come in and compete for jobs.

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01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: Do you think they pick at three? I would doubt

1145
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: it at this point. Non quarterback, Yeah, well they could.

1146
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: So they have to decide. Is Will Anderson, for example,

1147
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: who could be a generational talent as a pass rusher.

1148
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Is it worth it to take him and what he

1149
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 1: is expected to be as opposed to getting the best

1150
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: draft package you can to trade down and get more

1151
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: picks in this draft, maybe get more picks and next

1152
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: year's draft, and then of course select whatever it is

1153
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: that's still there. Because the thing is, and I'm sure

1154
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: the one way they're looking at it, this is a

1155
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: pretty deep draft in edge rushers, which they definitely need.

1156
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: It's pretty solid in corners, which they definitely need, and

1157
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: so the more picks, you know, the better. So I

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01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: would think they'll trade down. The key, obviously, will be

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01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: getting that deal that they think is worth worthy of doing.

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01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: One of the reasons Hopkins hasn't been traded is because

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01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: they're asking for too much and they I think they've

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01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: overshot the market for a guy who's going to be

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01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: thirty one in June. Is that injuries the last two

1164
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: years and has over thirty four million dollars on his

1165
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: contract remaining for two seasons, and so to get a

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01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: second round pick for him, I think was fantasy land.

1167
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know how long they're going to hold

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01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: out before they do something, but it makes me question

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01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: do they really have the market and the way to

1170
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 1: do things with trades and all that. These are guys

1171
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: who have never done that before. Maybe they've seen others

1172
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: do it, but they haven't done it themselves. And so

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01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be very instructive to see

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01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: what happens with that third pick and if they're truly

1175
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: able to get real tremendous value for that third overall choice.

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01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: And that's, of course, assuming that someone's just wants you know,

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01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: if we assume that Stroud and Bryce Young will go

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01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: one two, that's assuming that someone else will has really

1179
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: fallen in love with Anthony Richardson. I mean, I was

1180
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: asked a question today on a website that does some questions,

1181
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: and they said, of these four quarterbacks, who as you

1182
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: pick first overall? And I answered none of the above,

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01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't take any of these guys first overall.

1184
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: But this has fall in love with a quarterback season

1185
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and we know that a lot of

1186
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: times mistakes are made. Yeah they are, Howard, this was

1187
01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: greatly appreciate you my pleasure. Guys anytime here all right,

1188
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: that's Howard Balls or NFL reporter covering the Cardinals at

1189
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: pH NX dot com. Read his stuff PHNX dot com

1190
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: at h Balls or seven two one on Twitter. You

1191
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: get that information there. The Kyler Murray thing is a

1192
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: fast They're all gone, and now they're talking about trying

1193
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: to get rid, like who's even gonna who's their offense?

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01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,479
Speaker 1: Who is on their offense. It's not the same because

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01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the yips, but there's a feels like

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01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: a Ben Simmons e quality to this from the standpoint

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01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: of like, wow, this was the centerpiece, Like Simmons was

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01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: an all star, Bension was an all star in Philly.

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Speaker 1: It was great. Um. And and I'm not saying it's

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01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: the same because he has he had the yips, because shoot,

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01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: his his mental but but Kyler's might be a little

1202
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: mental too in terms of just not wanting to be

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01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: a pro at all, and it's got to be your

1204
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: life's having a very little interest in being a professional

1205
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: quarterback and what's required clearly based on the incentives for

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01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: him to be at the season, based on the incentives

1207
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: for him to you know, actually watch films like those

1208
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: things are real. He's coming off of a catastrophic injury.

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01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: Now I had forgotten that he's missed all of that

1210
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: time that he's missed. Yeah, what do you do with him?

1211
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: And you paid him? I don't know, and now he

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01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: really doesn't if you trade Hopkins, there really isn't supporting cats.

1213
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: How there's none like Ron Dalemore who has not really

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01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: hasn't done much. No, no, But I don't know what

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01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: the market is for Kyler either because he hasn't. I

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01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: think you could somebody could be talked into Kyler because

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01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money though, and he's just it's

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01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: it's the personality of it is is tough. I mean

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01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: clearly he does not embrace the notion that he's got

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01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: to be you know, it's his lifestyle to become a

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01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: great quarterback. And this is by the way, listen there

1222
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: their off season. It's so strange key signings. Kaiser White,

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01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: who played with the Eagles, yelled a froll Holtz with

1224
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: us Devin Kevin Strong Zach Pascal, Dennis Daily. I mean nothing.

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01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: They lost JJ Byron Murphy, Zach Allen, who had a

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01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: great year for them, Marcus Golden, chosen Anderson as Robbie Anderson,

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson who we heard they don't win without. I

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01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: mean they're not. And Hopkins will eventually be gone too. Yeah,

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01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean that roster got significantly worse. It feels like

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: they would They're in a position to tank. It's what

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01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: it seems like, right, So would it would it be

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Speaker 1: something where you have Kyler sit the entire year? Do

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01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: you just take a red shirt to get healthy? Do

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01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: you send him to Miami? Would they want him? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, boy, what's the more distracting city? Miami or Phoenix? Miami? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: If you're playing video games anywhere, yeah, anywhere, it doesn't matter. Yeah,

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01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter. By the way, I put together

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01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: some categories for us to do on these things. I

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01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: like it. That'd be fun. I'd love to do. Let's

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Speaker 1: do that coming up next? Yeah, Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that coming up next. Listen to Cleve the

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. You have some categories, sir, for us

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Speaker 1: to go over. Yeah, I got some stuff for you.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're ready. There we go to gore retime.

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Speaker 1: I like it. That's the open there it is, okay,

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Speaker 1: I like it, all right, go ahead. Uniforms keep or

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Speaker 1: change change change in fact, thoughts change dramatically. Yeah, changed dramatically,

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Speaker 1: so smooth um changed dramatically. I would I would get

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01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: rid of all of it. I think they're best full

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01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: start over. I would start over. Um, they're all blacks,

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01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: pretty nice, you love you're anything. You can't have a

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01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: red helmet because the bird's gotta be red. Here's the deal.

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: Maybe get rid of the damn bird off the thing,

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01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: make them and start over, make them something with the

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01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: Valley of the Sun or even the even you can

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01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: still be the Arizona Cardinals and you can still have

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01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: that bet be a part of it. But we've seen

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Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz do a gradient with the sky out

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: there a couple of years ago. The Phoenix Suns have

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Speaker 1: the Valley uniforms. WI you're really popular. Like, there's so

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Speaker 1: many cool colors and stuff that you could do out there.

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Speaker 1: You can still keep the name, you can keep all

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01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: of that. But I do think that you can get

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Speaker 1: that bird off the helmet and then you're then you're

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: not locked into that that there. I mean, that is

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01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: a Saint Louis totally cardinal uniform. Yeah, and it's been

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: that way for a long time. Like I would dramatically

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01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: change it. Yeah, I'd go to something like it could

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01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 1: be the Arizona Havelinas. They could get to be the Suarus.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there's there's so much stuff. There's so

1279
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: much out there that you could play off of. Little

1280
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: Haavelina just run around trying to enjoy itself. Nobody by

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01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: the way, which is basically a combination of what like

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: a porky pine and a pig. That's right, so like,

1283
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: there's none of that in professional sports. We wanted out

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: the Red Hogs. Yeah, um yeah, Like I guess whatever,

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01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: but I would go to I think you can go drastic.

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01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody out there going like, oh

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01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: I love the love the uniform. It's great. Now great,

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01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: they need they need to start over. Only variation I

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01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: currently like is the all black. That's it? All right?

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01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: Player you'd want from their team right now? I like

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01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: this one. I mean I immediately. I mean, we had

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01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: such a love affair with Isaiah Simmons. I don't even

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01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 1: know if he's been good or it's been a struggle.

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: If solid, fine, but not not the answer. Putter Baker

1295
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: is the Buddha. Baker's the answer safety. If I hadn't

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01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: known you were coming there, I don't I don't know

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: their roster enough. You don't know that you're the first

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01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: I've heard the categories. Yeah, that's true. I'm hearing them

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01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: first for the first time. But now we're gonna write

1300
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna die. Need any more Stevie to write down

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Speaker 1: these categories. Stevie's gone, he's not moving, he's not writing anything.

1302
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: Then where is Stevie now? Now? Stevie's in U. Stevie

1303
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: was in South Dakota, North Dakota, and he was matriculating

1304
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: around the world. I don't know where. He had a

1305
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: big job interview in Arkansas. Yeah, oh, Stevie, the Great

1306
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: ste I don't know what came about that, all right? Yeah,

1307
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: driving he was playing basketball on riding a donkey. I've

1308
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: done that. Yeah, it sounds dangerous. Yeah. I like the

1309
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker. Yeah, that's definitely the one. Okay, Oh gosh,

1310
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: he's all of it. He's all of what you need. Yes,

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01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: and honestly, yeah, the rest were kind of good. You

1312
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: can play some big nickel. Yeah, yeah, like it. Hollywood

1313
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: Brown would I wouldn't woudn't mind to Hollywood Brown or

1314
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, but I think I think the number

1315
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: one guy there's Buddha Baker. All right, So, um, are

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: they a playoff contender or pretender? Pretender, pretender biggest? They're

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: starting over? Stop it. I don't even know if they are.

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what they are, That's all I asked

1319
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: my question to Howard, what are you doing? Are you?

1320
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: It feels like a restart you have, but yet you

1321
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. You're paying one hundred and seventy million.

1322
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, has there been another situation like this where

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: somebody had a quarterback that they identified as a franchise quarterback,

1324
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: compensated as a franchise quarterback, and yet every other roster

1325
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: decision they made was one saying we're rebuilding. Yep. I

1326
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: can't think of one. No, no, all right, all time

1327
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: favorite Arizona Cardinal. I mean, Larry fitz is pretty good.

1328
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: That's a big am Quan Bolden was an am Klam

1329
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: Bolden guy. I'd go Ankum Bolden Bolden is I mean

1330
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: that was you know, a little xbox with am quon

1331
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: back in the day Ncuba college football like O two sure, sure,

1332
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: yeah um. I had a Bolden Cardinal's jersey, the only

1333
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: Cardinal jers I've ever had. I've had a Bolden and

1334
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: I've had a I had a Pat till Tillman is great.

1335
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: I think they are. Also, he has that er where

1336
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: they have the flag, which looks good. I don't know

1337
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: if is there something you can play into that, sure,

1338
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: but that looks good on the sleeve of that one. Though.

1339
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: I think the all white you went all black? I

1340
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: like their looks pretty hyping is awful. Just get and

1341
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: you can't have your shoulders be a difficult No, Like

1342
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: the whole thing is a disaster. They're the only team

1343
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: they can go back to that that era Neil Lomax

1344
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, if there is that a beloved era, No,

1345
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: that's a problem. They don't have any beloved era. Just

1346
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: clean it up, clean it up. I think it could

1347
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: be good there, all right, So we got our all

1348
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: time UM stadium elite or garbage. Closer to elite than

1349
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: garbage definitely? Yeah, significant, really nice. Um, I've seen some

1350
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: great stuff in there, National championship games. Um. The only

1351
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: thing that's tricky about it is the location, right, I

1352
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: mean locations pretty screw up the field of the Super Bowl.

1353
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: They did. Yeah, they well they decided like a wasn't

1354
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: it a month before they Super Bowl? They said, oh

1355
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna try new grass and then we're gonna paint it. Yeah,

1356
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: let's do that, right. They planted it too early. You

1357
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: like it though, I just think the Glendale locations tough,

1358
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: Like you don't want to be there. It's forty five

1359
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: minutes from where you want to be. But it's a

1360
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: good game experience, good stadium. Yeah, the stadium itself. Is

1361
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna grade it the whole experience, I'd go

1362
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: by I think the stadiums and a minus on its

1363
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: own right. Road trip yes or no, absolute hard. Yes,

1364
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: it is a Mount Rushmore, NFL road trip, no doubt,

1365
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: especially if it comes in November, no doubt. All Right,

1366
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: must do things on said road trip, you have a

1367
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: So the last time I was there was with the family,

1368
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: and we did through three nights there. We were at

1369
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: the Princess, We did three nights there. I mean, just

1370
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: for if you're thinking about this for like a spring

1371
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: break thing for the kids. The weather was spectacular, of

1372
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 1: course as it was, but they have got like four pools,

1373
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: water slides, everything you want. I mean, that's you're right.

1374
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: There's the golf courses right there if you want to

1375
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: do that. So yeah, it's but this is your wheelouse.

1376
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 1: You're married there, you got this is your place. I like,

1377
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just say if a must do

1378
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 1: thing that's kind of unique is if you're able bodied

1379
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: hike camel back. Yes, the view from up there is stunning.

1380
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: You have essential accountter because you're kind of bouldering, you

1381
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: really are. It's way the hell up there, man, and

1382
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: you're it's it's just it isn't like an easy no no, no,

1383
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: it's work. No, it's work. And then after that go

1384
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: crush some tacos at at Barrio Barrio Queen. Yeah, that

1385
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: JW's there is amazing. The JW marry out there is amazing.

1386
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: Camel Baddos Builtmore is amazing, the Biltmore it's great. Great pools. Yeah, lovely,

1387
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: all right, final one. So the Cardinals they pick third.

1388
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: Who was their top target at pick three? It's gotta

1389
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: be Will Anderson? Will Anderson? Right, And then if you're

1390
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: the GM, do you trade or do you stay? I

1391
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: get out, don't you? Depending on what the getback is?

1392
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: What am I doing? Though? Well I don't know, that's

1393
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: what I don't know what I'm doing. I would lander

1394
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: when he's like, who am I? They need to acquire

1395
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: a ton of talent? Well, right, So, like, but if

1396
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: you have a chance that, if this guy is that good,

1397
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: getting a pass rusher of his ilk feels like a

1398
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: pretty good idea. You're getting the number one nine quarterback

1399
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: in the draft. I've seen people do like the most

1400
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: the comparison, like Vaughan Miller, like it's ninety percent of that,

1401
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: then that's a home run. Can you do that and

1402
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: you forget about it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I guess it

1403
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: would depend on what if somebody falls in love with

1404
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. If somebody's like, like, if let's say Seattle's like,

1405
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: we cannot who's picking four Colt Colts. So let's say

1406
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 1: that the Colts are gonna take Richardson at four and

1407
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 1: Seattle's Pete Carroll's like, I cannot allow. I want Anthony Richardson.

1408
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: He's the future of this franchise. God, I want to

1409
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: go draft this guy. I'll give you five, and what's

1410
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: their other one? They pick somewhere in the teens, Like,

1411
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: if you get two ones to move back to five,

1412
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: I do that in a second, because they need a

1413
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: lot of guys. So I guess it just depends on

1414
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: what the giveback could be. Seattle's got five and it's

1415
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: not in the top sixty five and twenty five and twenty, Like,

1416
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: I'd move back to five and twenty if they want

1417
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 1: to come up to three. Well, and then you're assuming

1418
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna go quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, and you could still

1419
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: get your guy, or you could get Jalen Carter or

1420
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: whatever that I would do that, I would do all

1421
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: right there, just good to you. I like them. Are

1422
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Speaker 1: we writing all those down? We're running back right as

1423
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: we go there. I like to see that you contributed today.

1424
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Speaker 1: Congratulations right off of a red eye, playing like a champion,

1425
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: play getting it all done. Aps. No picks baby, Nope,

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01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: I like that. No picks baby, No picks baby. I'm

1427
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Speaker 1: gonna start doing that to the kids. It's the best. Yeah,

1428
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm wanna do that. No pigs baby. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: do a little lot better or worse with ap coming

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Speaker 1: up next. You'll stick clean the roads. Dailey Brought you

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Speaker 1: type a little better or worse? AP and Studio. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, ap ay you were in here Thursday. We're fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, full hour with Gabe, first time, first time

1437
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Speaker 1: co hosting, and yeah, I think it was pretty smooth.

1438
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: Give me what do you think it was a problem man?

1439
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 1: I think kept down like a nice young man. I

1440
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: gotta give credit to you, guys, I got my got

1441
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Speaker 1: my reps in right here. It is better or smart.

1442
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Speaker 1: There's there's other people who have been in this mentoring

1443
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: came from us. Other other people who have been in

1444
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: this vicinity who did not soak up that knowledge and hurt.

1445
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: They're like a in this league going forward. You're an

1446
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Speaker 1: anti sponge. Yeah. That was a good jem here anymore. No,

1447
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Speaker 1: you said it. It was a good time. I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: You're a good man, and thank you. The boys would

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Speaker 1: like you to just fill in every Friday. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, yeah, there you go, but just in to

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Speaker 1: foot Friday off. Tell September. I mean to sound like

1452
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Speaker 1: you didn't want to work. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no,

1453
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Speaker 1: Friday's off. Tell September. Who gets hurt? Yeah, I like

1454
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Speaker 1: that for all of them. No pictures, please, we leave

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Speaker 1: Should the following grades that were given out be higher

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Speaker 1: or lower? Uh? And we start off first with your

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: Eveland Brown. I understand how grades get a higher lower.

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01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: Is it a better grade or worst grade? I don't

1462
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: even get it. You can get a higher grade is

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01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: walking up a ladder and turning into a's as they

1464
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 1: walk up a ladder. I don't know, man, I don't know, man.

1465
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: You can get a higher grade, you get a lower grade.

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01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: I could get a better grade than you and a

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01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: worst grade. No that I could get a better grade.

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01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: Raction with the Cleveland Browns graded out as an A,

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01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: obviously we're not gonna go higher or lower here. We're

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01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna take it. They come in sixth in the NFL.

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: Uh poisel thoughts from you on the grade and overall

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01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: compared to everybody else. Uh, yeah, I'm fine with it.

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01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that stood out to me

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01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: just looking at the rankings here was there's just there's

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01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that got a's, and I don't

1476
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: know if there should be this many teams that got a's.

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01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: Just doesn't generous. I feel right, right, But I mean

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01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: for the Browns, yeah, I'm cool with it. I still

1479
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: think the work isn't done. They need to find another

1480
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: starting d tackle and probably add you know, some good

1481
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: death players at edge and linebacker. Um, there's still time

1482
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: to do that though, and no team's dropter is filled

1483
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: out at this point in the off season. I'd tell

1484
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: you what they did so far. Yeah, and he's fine.

1485
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: I like it. Ah, you know when you said, uh,

1486
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't get it to give a yea.

1487
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: In my head, I a scene from the movie popped in.

1488
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: It was like, I don't get it, and the one

1489
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: and the other the opposite actors going I don't get it.

1490
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't get it. What does it mean? I don't

1491
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: get it. We just kept saying I don't get it.

1492
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I'm thinking, like, what movie is that from?

1493
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: It was Big? Everyone Hanks is in there at these

1494
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 1: John Hurt, I think is the guy who's doing the

1495
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: pitch of the toy and it's the building, and he goes,

1496
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't get it, and he just keeps raising his hand.

1497
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Why don't you get and he goes, well,

1498
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: who wants to be a building? Yeah? If it was

1499
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: a bug, like kids want to play with the bug,

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01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: I don't want to play the building. And then everyone

1501
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: goes nuts about the bugs. So yeah, there it is

1502
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: that bumped in there. You go give it appropriate. By

1503
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: the way, the Bears were number one in free agency

1504
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: according to The Sporting News, getting an A plus grade

1505
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: because of that trade. The Jets number two with an

1506
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: A plus grade bishop high or lower, just right lower.

1507
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: They do not have Aaron Rodgers. We don't know what

1508
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 1: they get. We don't know what they're giving back to

1509
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: get him. If they get him, it's not done. Like

1510
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: stop it. The same thing with like like that happened

1511
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: with Lamar with Baltimore, like he's leaving Baltimore. Well, not yet,

1512
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: has it happened yet? Three weeks into this way forever

1513
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: and it's like, come on, man, it's it's taken on forever.

1514
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: And I feel like you would expect teams to start

1515
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: or people start getting a little more skeptical right now,

1516
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: and instead of it seems like more and more people

1517
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: are just saying it's a certainty and it's not yet.

1518
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: It's not official. I agree, And I also think they

1519
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: lost some stuff in that wide receiver room, like well

1520
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: they would say that they got me Cole Hardman and

1521
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: they got Alan Lazard. It's just without Rogers, it can't

1522
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: be an A plus And right now they don't have him, no, no, no, no,

1523
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: Like well how about it again? They got those guys.

1524
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: Butman's healthy? Is he ever healthy? So I mean, I'm

1525
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: gonna hijack for a second because bows tickled by that,

1526
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: and I got to his credit to where credit is

1527
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: due from the great Scotty Monico. So Skott, we're out

1528
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 1: in LA and I guess there had been and this

1529
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 1: was like some obscure reference back in the day when

1530
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: McMahon Vincent Kennedy was still the commentator. Yeah, when he's

1531
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: stirewell in the Blazers with the patches and whatnot. There

1532
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: was some interaction between gold Dust and Razor Ramone and

1533
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: Raise and gold Ust, I guess lays out this challenge

1534
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: that he wants to fight Razor Ramone and for whatever reason,

1535
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: this stuck with Scotty and we've been saying it all weekend,

1536
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: which is why I had to drop it right there.

1537
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: So gold Us lays out the challenge and mcmansie announcer

1538
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: in between them, and he looks so raised. He goes, Razor, well,

1539
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 1: how about it. So we've been using a lot of

1540
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 1: well how good, we also use this. That's a different

1541
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: roads too. It's not Cody who is that's his brother, Yes,

1542
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: his brother was That was gold Dust yes, Dustin. They

1543
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: did Dusty wrong and Dustin wrong, no doubt, and for

1544
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: a while they did Cody pretty wrong. Yeah, you can

1545
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: make the case that he maybe should have won it Mania.

1546
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: So we had that and then one of my other

1547
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: favorite are you how familiar are you? Like? How deep

1548
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: are either of you? Or even this guy in the

1549
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: Star Wars like You're like the original pretty New Hope

1550
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: a pretty good handled. Okay, so we're sitting at the

1551
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: bar late night and somebody makes a comment about something

1552
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: and Scottie goes, he doesn't like you, and so from

1553
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: the New Hope if you remember when they're in the

1554
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: bar scene, Yeah, yeah, the guy with the pig, I

1555
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: don't like you either. Yea. So we weren't using that,

1556
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: just beating it into the ground. But apparently there's a

1557
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 1: T shirt that's got that guy's face on it that

1558
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: says I don't like I don't like you either. Gotta

1559
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: get it, gotta have that, gotta have it in that guy.

1560
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: Unbelievable cameo, and by the way it I would be

1561
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't also went out that when you're

1562
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: at an event like a WrestleMania, it's possible to find

1563
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: doppelgangers for that guy, which previously I would have thought

1564
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: was impossible. We found three of them were that guy.

1565
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: I made Scotty get out of line walk. I go,

1566
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: you're when you see it, You're gonna see it. And

1567
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: then he almost fell on the floor. That's fantastic. He

1568
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: like you. I don't. I'm wanted for murder, intense solar systems,

1569
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: like I'll be quiet, you'll be dead. The Lions are

1570
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: four Falcons, five Browns six. The Bengals are number seven Zigura.

1571
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: They get an A two. Everybody gets an a higher

1572
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 1: lower just right. I like the Lions camp Sutton, I

1573
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: thought it was a great Yet Emanuel mose League Gardner Johnson, well,

1574
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: I like the Lions better. Why do I want to

1575
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: talk about you can all right? I like the Lions.

1576
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: I like what they did as well. For the Bengals,

1577
01:24:55,680 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: it and A feels generous to me because it's based

1578
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: on right. Isn't that base just solely on Okay? They

1579
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: lost Jesse Bates, who's really good, Von Bell, who was

1580
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: great for them last year. P Ryan played a big

1581
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: role for them. Hearst is their starting tight end, and

1582
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: Eli Apple is a starting corner. I mean you lost

1583
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: three of your four starting secondary members. You're starting tight

1584
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: end and a big time role player on the offense,

1585
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 1: and you kept Jermaine Pratt lovely, but this is Jeraine

1586
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: Panton Orlando Brown. Are they greater than all of that loss? Maybe?

1587
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: But it feels to me it's more like a neutral. Yep.

1588
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 1: So the b minus for that next season was like,

1589
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: you don't have a quarterback. You could be really, really

1590
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: good if you actually went out and made a pitch

1591
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: for Lamar. So yeah. The thing with the Bengals, I

1592
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: think the two things that get underplayed is they were

1593
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: very optimistic that they could bring back Von Bell and

1594
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst. Yeah, it's part of their plans that they

1595
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: were going to bring them back. Now, they were very disciplined.

1596
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 1: They didn't want to want to pay that number, so

1597
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: they let him walk. But if you would have said

1598
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: before the offseason, like Bates didn't catch him by surprise,

1599
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: p Ryan doesn't catch him the apple fine, But Bell

1600
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: and Hurst they thought they weren't have those two guys back.

1601
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: The fact they both walked is surprising for them. They're

1602
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: gonna draft and again they're free agent. They'll be fine. Yeah, Yeah,

1603
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: they're gonna draft s calling me. We're doing a we're

1604
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: doing a show about the Wolverines getting one of the

1605
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: top quarterbacks in the country. I'll hang up and listen.

1606
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: That one didn't hurt as bad as the running back

1607
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. Yeah, they were out on the quarterback from Bucks,

1608
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: were out on the quarterback, but the running back from

1609
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: Cincinnati was a tough blow. I mean, we're doing a show.

1610
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 1: Come ons. He knows the schedule of the program. He

1611
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: does Hey, real quick. Thirty seconds from everybody? Which team

1612
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: had the worst free agency period? Rams, Ravens, Packers. Rams

1613
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: were thirtieth, Baltimore thirty first, Packers thirty second. Poisel go,

1614
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Ravens because they learned at the

1615
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: QB doesn't want to play for them anymore, and they

1616
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: signed a receiver who's been anything but dependable for most

1617
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: of his career and Nelson Aglore and that's all that

1618
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: they've done. Agreed. I think three you don't know whose

1619
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: quarterback the It feels like there's a little bit of

1620
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: a crisis here. I think Green Bay's the worst because

1621
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: they don't I was a Green Bay but they got

1622
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: a backup plan right now with the right not a

1623
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: backup plane. Lamar is not gonna play for Baltimore again,

1624
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: because I'm not. You are not convinced you think I

1625
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: mean I will play for Baltim I do. I don't

1626
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a choice. They're gonna play for

1627
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: Baltimore's gonna sit out. That feels like where we're at, right, Yeah,

1628
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 1: that's right, but that is not They've played it well though,

1629
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: because they can say to Costa is the bad cop.

1630
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 1: Harback can say it's me, I got your backups. Brown

1631
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: was out there playing good cop. Yeah, like they're I

1632
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: think they're going to be fine with him for the intermediate,

1633
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: which might be exactly. I don't think he wants to.

1634
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure his feelings are hurt significantly. That's why sometimes

1635
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: you have an agent to that handle those things. We

1636
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: outline the various things an agent would have prevented. Good

1637
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: job out to you, so much more to come. You

1638
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: listen to cleveand Brown's alia on a fifty yesp in

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01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns brought to you by Bally bed coming

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01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: Soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Good to

1641
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: be back, Buddy, great to be Ah, Great to be

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Speaker 1: back there you go, there you go, see your smiling faith. Yeah,

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01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: a seventy degrees and Sonny when it's calamity tomar supposed

1644
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: to be insane. Yeah, I will tease you with this.

1645
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: I have not seen a weather model like this maybe

1646
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: ever for the city of Cleveland. Not great give So

1647
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: are you saying, in the interest of safety, should we

1648
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: do the program from home? The next level is next Yeah,

1649
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: Lee down the road, see on down the road kids.

1650
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:52,280
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