WEBVTT - Get the Recognition (and Compensation) You Deserve

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're.

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<v Speaker 2>Ambition, ambition, ambi, Hey, image are you to? Overall?

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<v Speaker 3>I got bluesy at the end. I'm doing great, actually good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I'm not taking that for granted. Today is

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<v Speaker 3>a good day. Good. I only got a few hours

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<v Speaker 3>of sleep the past two nights, and I have a

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<v Speaker 3>huge I'm doing my career. I'm doing a career pivot

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<v Speaker 3>webinar tonight. Uh will you guys hear this that it

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<v Speaker 3>will have been passed, But just know that I decided.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you're just gonna be tired, but you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>like go, You're gonna muscle through and it's gonna be amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel very like optimistic about it. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>I can do it. I lost a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 3>lost so much mojo this past year, But did you

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<v Speaker 3>know that mojo is not a finite resource, like you

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<v Speaker 3>can find more of it. I'm just like excavating. I

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<v Speaker 3>just had to go find, you know, a new fertile

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<v Speaker 3>land where mojo could flourish. And finally, yeah, some mojo's

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<v Speaker 3>coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I love that so well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, let's put a pin and I have actually

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<v Speaker 2>I have some I have a question. It's some negotiating advice.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe it said a brown break, brown boost. We

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<v Speaker 2>can do like, oh, ask and ask Mandy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So just because you know my memory, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see, I'm put it out there. I'm putting it

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<v Speaker 2>on you to remind me to remember my question.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Oh god, okay, between the two of us, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>maybe tell Tanya, maybe tell producer Tanya. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>hear about So at this point, are you, like, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, do you have a wing? I am at

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<v Speaker 3>the west at the White House, Like, is there a

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<v Speaker 3>budget nieu like chair desk? Like do you have a

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<v Speaker 3>like a satellite situation you know where you have your

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<v Speaker 3>own your own place there because you are you stay

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<v Speaker 3>on that Amtrak train to DC.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I'm actually going back on Thursday. So for

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<v Speaker 2>those of y'all who have been full lim wing, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually was at the White House last Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a congressional briefing, which don't ask me what

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<v Speaker 2>that is. I guess it's a briefing from members of Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming what it sounds like a congressional briefing, But

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<v Speaker 2>this was specifically on student loans. And so the offices

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<v Speaker 2>that led the briefing, well, the main office that led

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<v Speaker 2>the briefing was Elizabeth Warren, Senator, and then she partnered

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<v Speaker 2>with Rafael Warnock. Well, actually I think the office that

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<v Speaker 2>led it was the Majority leader, like I said, Senate

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<v Speaker 2>Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Senator from New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he is New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and so it was him, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, Elizabeth Warren, Raffial Warnock. Remember Raffia Warnock.

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<v Speaker 2>We was all praying that he won that election, remember Georgia, Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about it here. And then also to Representative

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<v Speaker 2>ayan La Presley, you know, the represent the beautiful black

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<v Speaker 2>woman who shaves her head.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she didn't shave her head. I can't remember why.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It was alopecia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was alopecia. Yes, yeah, I think she was

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<v Speaker 3>sharing her journey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I just sol't.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been to the White House before and

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<v Speaker 2>usually it's a bunch of creators like myself, twenty thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty of us, but it was only six of us

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<v Speaker 2>in this like okay, and so at the Capitol, which

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<v Speaker 2>i've never been to the Capitol Building and so like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you could got there early to go for

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<v Speaker 2>a tour, but of course I was late, so I

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<v Speaker 2>missed my tour. But then afterwards, the six of us

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<v Speaker 2>were in this beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, you know, two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>year old room where every gold leaflet is like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just was a beautiful room and six six other

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<v Speaker 2>financial creators and we got to meet Elizabeth Warren, not

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<v Speaker 2>just meat but all of us literally for you guys, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, we want to tell you what's happening with

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<v Speaker 2>student loan debt?

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<v Speaker 1>You sie, so like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Means you were sitting like how far from Lizzie Warren?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Like at one point, girl, I have a picture.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, hey, we took Selfie's girl. That's my homie.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually invited her on the podcast and her Adamin, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you suld be like, so you don't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Tiffany was like, I know this is the thing before

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<v Speaker 3>I knew any of this, imagine. Tiffany's like, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I know this person is like not a

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<v Speaker 3>black woman, a woman of color. But I met Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 3>Warren and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Lizzie Warren is always invited to the Brown Ambition cookouts.

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<v Speaker 3>Always I outstand her.

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<v Speaker 2>She is, First of all, she's an educator, so you

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<v Speaker 2>already know we was teacher teachery and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know she wrote a financial education book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I turned a business insider forever ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>so we.

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<v Speaker 2>Talked about that, and she's just the warmest, kindest even

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<v Speaker 2>her staff ord. She had these interns that actually later

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<v Speaker 2>on gave us a tour and it would just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of give us like the behind the scenes like about like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how do We were asking like are you

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<v Speaker 2>in school? They were like rising juniors and how did

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<v Speaker 2>you get this position? And blah blah blah, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were just like they loved working in her office, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, not all senators are superhands on with their interns,

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<v Speaker 2>but she said she's superhands on. We get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of responsibilities. We don't just have to fetch coffee. They

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<v Speaker 2>were just going on and on about how they're so

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<v Speaker 2>happy that they're working in her office because it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a really welcoming place for interns to really understand what

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<v Speaker 2>does it look like to be in government.

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<v Speaker 1>So so what was so special.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't really understand all that was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>But what was so special was that one we had

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<v Speaker 2>this initial briefing where they really broke down all things

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<v Speaker 2>student loans. And so next week, guys, Mandy's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be here, so to just be me, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>just do a student loan special. So a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to pour your questions in, certainly you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not an expert on student loan dead but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to share all that they shared with us, so

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Warren's dats, So if you guys have questions Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, now.

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<v Speaker 2>So we can try to see we can get her

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<v Speaker 2>on not for next week, but we'll do a student

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<v Speaker 2>loan like cause there are some stats and some it

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<v Speaker 2>was just incredible. And then after that so it was

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<v Speaker 2>like I forget a staffer on her staff who kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like broke down all things as we as it

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<v Speaker 2>relates to student loan debt and student loan debt relief

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<v Speaker 2>and in particular, and then you know, the senators came

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<v Speaker 2>in and Representative Presley and we got to we did

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<v Speaker 2>a rotation because it was only six of us, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we got to spend like five minutes with each

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<v Speaker 2>of them asking questions as it relates to your quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote constituents.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got to ask, I am last.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was like, as a black woman, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're a black woman, you know, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>see student loan debt relief? How would this affect this community?

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<v Speaker 2>And so she got to share, and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and so for each of them, I really

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<v Speaker 2>got to ask questions. I recorded it, and so I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go over in detail with all of them, share the

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<v Speaker 2>questions I asked, and the and the you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>the document they gave us that kind of just broke

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<v Speaker 2>down what student loan debt relief looked like, looks like now,

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully look like moving forward with this administration. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was incredible. It was really just like

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<v Speaker 2>not me one of six in this room and at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>So I bet some creators got invited and they were like, eh, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>but like understanding that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only six people. So I'm just gonna be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say because normally I could talk a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little shit, I could talk a little shit if it

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<v Speaker 2>was a room full of people, but it was only six,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, I'm just gonna keep it cute.

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<v Speaker 3>Like like you, I feel like like I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 3>that you, uh whoever was in charge of inviting you,

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<v Speaker 3>and you've gone a lot, and I think like sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>especially in like creators, like not all you understand, like

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<v Speaker 3>the not all of you, but some I just imagine

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<v Speaker 3>they don't understand how important it is to be at

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<v Speaker 3>that table. And I just feel like you're at this

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<v Speaker 3>stage now where you can really maximize that time, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's so great. I'm like, yes, of course you shan.

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<v Speaker 1>To know, like what is happening? What's so what now?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like when I'm not just here for a

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<v Speaker 2>photo app you know, like I want to understand. And

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<v Speaker 2>I asked, are you know? I asked all of them,

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<v Speaker 2>would you know I have a podcast? Would you be

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<v Speaker 2>interested in coming on? So I a police person was like,

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<v Speaker 2>here's my card, yes, you know, and Elizabeth the Warren.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna now that you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Better get ready. I have a lot of plans for

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<v Speaker 3>the election run up because, like Tiffany, I think the

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<v Speaker 3>whole conversation we had. I get the apathy level right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I need Jesus Christ. It is so terrifying what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I'm choosing, I think this is more important

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<v Speaker 3>than ever to just like have interesting people on to

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<v Speaker 3>remind us like shake, get shook, shaken up a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>like this is important. This is a moment. So I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have the Iona Presley, Let's have Lizzie Warrenant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so I didn't. I didn't. I kept it light.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just like I didn't want to invite her

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<v Speaker 2>if you were like, you know, because people always ask

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<v Speaker 2>me like, why don't you just I'm like, no, the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast is a partnership. I always check with me and

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<v Speaker 2>and to be like, how do you feel about this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know? And if you're like, yeah, not so much,

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<v Speaker 2>then not so much, you know, And so like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I got on a PLUSZL you were like

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, So I was like already I put out

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<v Speaker 2>the invitation. But for Elizabeth Warner, I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>because we sent her black and brown women here. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean we don't have other women, but we sent

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<v Speaker 2>her them here, and it's are mindful that if we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring someone who is not a black or

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<v Speaker 2>brown woman that like, let me check even if we are,

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<v Speaker 2>I still you know, check in, but especially you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But Elizabeth, Yeah, Elizabeth Warren's policies directly impacted your community

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<v Speaker 3>posit so many huge ways, especially because of her work

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<v Speaker 3>in the consumer finance. And it's like yes always, so

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<v Speaker 3>I think, allyship, she's got it and she's just a

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just so glad she's on the hill. State farm

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<v Speaker 3>agents are small business owners too, so they know how

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<v Speaker 3>to help you choose personalized policies that fit your needs,

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<v Speaker 3>like a good neighbor. State farm is there. Talk to

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<v Speaker 3>your local agent today.

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<v Speaker 2>So coming up now. So the next thing is I

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<v Speaker 2>will be back in Washington for something separate. So the

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<v Speaker 2>Black Chamber of Commerce and the Vice President hath invited

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<v Speaker 2>a group of black business owners to the Vice President's

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<v Speaker 2>residence official residence. I've never been there, and I've never

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<v Speaker 2>met Kamala, you know, vice president a friend and like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like i've met the president and his wife

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<v Speaker 2>obviously who did Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my special.

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<v Speaker 3>Differing for your computer.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, I can't. I'm in DC speaking of.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's like the energy like you know, DC was

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<v Speaker 3>like she's giving us energy, you know, like DC.

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<v Speaker 1>Is pulling from a special DC frame.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what I was going to ask you, where's

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<v Speaker 3>Corey Booker at? Why was he?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw him for a second, and I like screamed

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Booker because that's what I'm used to. I forgot

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<v Speaker 2>that he's like not the mayor of Yeah, but so

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<v Speaker 2>I saw him, and so he didn't hear me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, yeah, that's right, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor. But yeah, so I saw him. So there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something about Capitol Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>One.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go and like like a museum kind of

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<v Speaker 1>take a tour.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really beautiful but also too like you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>take you like into these meeting rooms behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Who the offices, they have an internal is not a

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<v Speaker 2>lots of recorded obviously a what is it called a

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<v Speaker 2>train inside the Capitol building like like Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Does girl. I was like, you know, like airport, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just really like the building is beautiful, Like

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was so nice. It's just really open about talking

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<v Speaker 2>about student loan debt relief and how.

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<v Speaker 1>It like it I will.

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<v Speaker 2>They were really smart. This is her office was amazing

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<v Speaker 2>because there were four of the six people there, it

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<v Speaker 2>was four black women.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because student loan debt.

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<v Speaker 2>Relief overwhelmingly would change the lives of black women and

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<v Speaker 2>any other population in the United Stace overwhelming Like when

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<v Speaker 2>I next week, when I share some of the stats,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are gonna be like, no way, yes, way.

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<v Speaker 2>It overwhelmingly affects black and brown people, especially black people,

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<v Speaker 2>and overwhelming affects women. And so the fact that it

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<v Speaker 2>was reflected in the people that they chose to invite,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, was it meant that you know, they're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because they're like, this is who needs to know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is what's on the line for you, And

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, it was just like, yeah, I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 2>like have our student loan debt, so get ready ask

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<v Speaker 2>your questions ahead of time. You will make it a

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<v Speaker 2>student loan debt EPI when you know, man, day's I

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<v Speaker 2>hear next week. But yeah, I mean I think you

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<v Speaker 2>know the things that are happening. I'm excited too about

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<v Speaker 2>this Thursday going to you know, I want to learn

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<v Speaker 2>what is available for It's the black Chamber of Commerce

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<v Speaker 2>and the vice president. So what is available for black

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<v Speaker 2>folks in business? You know, like this is not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know, Like, so you have me here,

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<v Speaker 2>but for what end?

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<v Speaker 1>And what can I take back?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I have some questions to ask, like

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<v Speaker 2>what is how you know we don't get any funding

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<v Speaker 2>if we're not getting funding from VC funders, what funding

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<v Speaker 2>is available?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm trying my best to find funding available

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<v Speaker 1>for my business. Last year I almost went out of business.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, any businesses almost went out of business, it

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been. So we know that small businesses.

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<v Speaker 2>Are responsible for employing more people than large industry collectively.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if I can't tell you how many of

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<v Speaker 2>my friends almost went out of business, so we go

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<v Speaker 2>out of business. You know, look at who's on my team.

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<v Speaker 3>They look like me, you know, And so yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean look at the pandemic and like the rise of

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<v Speaker 3>black female entrepreneurs, but like who's taking care of us?

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, who's who wants to take invested interest in

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<v Speaker 3>our success? Because like and personally too, like you, you

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<v Speaker 3>have momentum when you start out, but the long road

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<v Speaker 3>of entrepreneurship it's difficult there's going to come a time

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<v Speaker 3>where you want those advisors to support. So I'm excited

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<v Speaker 3>to hear what happens. Yeah, but while you were rubbing

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<v Speaker 3>elbows with Lizzie Warren, I was hanging out don't be

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<v Speaker 3>too jealous with Terry Igioma.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Last night, Trade traut Wait, Trade and travel Terry, you

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<v Speaker 3>guys what you know? It was I So I spoke

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<v Speaker 3>at finn CON's Women and Money event.

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<v Speaker 1>In playing thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That pastel like short pants suit, whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 3>call it, that's been in my closet for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was very excited to take her out on

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<v Speaker 3>the town and like give her the vibe that she deserved.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had said yes to this a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and part of like I said, I mean, this past

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<v Speaker 3>year husband has rocked me in so many ways that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not ready to talk about yet. But like last night,

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<v Speaker 3>it was, I don't know, it felt like I was fresh,

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<v Speaker 3>It felt like I was starting over again, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was such a you know, wonderful event with women entrepreneurs

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<v Speaker 3>in the personal finance space and so many Tiffany stands. Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you know, like during my presentation

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<v Speaker 3>some as I don't mention you, like just like I

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<v Speaker 3>know they're gonna love this, but like, who's a fan

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<v Speaker 3>of Tiffan, Any Tiffany fans, any Budget Mester fans. The

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<v Speaker 3>whole room's like wow, no, like yeah, yeah yeah. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like and and I'm just like I love being

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<v Speaker 3>able to name drop Tiffany because I just get to

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy all of your fam love. I just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just like warm up the crowd a little bit. Ay,

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<v Speaker 3>So my name is made. But about that Budget Nista though,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't she real?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>But I I was there and Jamila's Souf Front from

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<v Speaker 3>Journey to Launch was speaking, and Bernadette Joy, who is

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<v Speaker 3>just such a brilliant MC kind of host, she was

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<v Speaker 3>there guiding us through and if you're it just reminded

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<v Speaker 3>me the importance of like getting together. They did a

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<v Speaker 3>really good job of giving opportunities for people to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to one another so that it wasn't just us time

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<v Speaker 3>we have that twenty minute Yeah, well we didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>just like twenty It wasn't like back to back speakers.

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<v Speaker 3>It was we only had twenty minutes each and in

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<v Speaker 3>between it was like, here are some conversation starters turn

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<v Speaker 3>around and talk to other women, and she loved. Yes, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys already talked. It's so funny because I was

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<v Speaker 3>talking to Jamila and I and and I just saw

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<v Speaker 3>a silhouette coming through the door. Terry had this like brilliant,

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<v Speaker 3>like dark peach like pants suit on. She was so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw her silhouette and out of the corner

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<v Speaker 3>of my eye and I was like, is that Terry?

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<v Speaker 3>And I and I and I turned around and it

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<v Speaker 3>was her. And I went and told her. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>how did I know? It was just like there or

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<v Speaker 3>the vibe or something. But I was so excited to

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<v Speaker 3>meet her. And she is the sweetest human alive. And

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<v Speaker 3>he so successful, Yes, yes, and humble and yeah. It

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<v Speaker 3>was so funny because we were on the way to

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<v Speaker 3>dinner after they had a big dinner down the street

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<v Speaker 3>and we all had to like schlep over there in

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<v Speaker 3>the hundred degree heat or whatnot, and we were like

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<v Speaker 3>the strap the stragglers. You know, there's maybe a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of us meet Terry, a couple of other people heading

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<v Speaker 3>to dinner, and Terry, uh is behind me. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I turned around and she's with another woman. Like another

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<v Speaker 3>black woman who had attended and and she was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>my friend so and so, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>her friend's here, cool, cool, cool. And then we sit

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<v Speaker 3>at this round table. We're at the table with the

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<v Speaker 3>speakers and her friends at the table, and I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 3>how did you and Terry meet? And the woman goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Terry just I just met her two minutes ago. I

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<v Speaker 3>was at the sidewalk by myself and she invited me

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<v Speaker 3>to this dinner and said she would speak. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, that is so Terry.

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<v Speaker 1>She honestly is one of the nicest.

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<v Speaker 2>If you guys don't follow Terry Ejama igoma I j

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<v Speaker 2>e O m A T E R I Terry Ejama

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<v Speaker 2>right on instad so. And then her business was called

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<v Speaker 2>Trade and Travel, So Terry's business. I think she started

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<v Speaker 2>it right before the pandemic, or started during a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>It really took off. She's made literally.

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<v Speaker 3>Before she's yes, so yeah, maybe the biggest teachable course.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, so for like top teachable course.

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<v Speaker 2>And y'all know, I partnered with her, and you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have been still thanking me, like who are taking her course?

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<v Speaker 1>So she and I were talking about that yesterday, but

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<v Speaker 1>very six. So, I mean she's been very open. In

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<v Speaker 1>like two years, she made like sixty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I could say that because she says that on her

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm talking about like on business, so this

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<v Speaker 2>is tremendous. But also Terry is a very very very

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<v Speaker 2>skilled trader like and so just recently she posted on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram how she is because Terry has also gone to seminary.

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<v Speaker 1>So Terry has first of all, she's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>She's went to MIT, you know, super smart, and then

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<v Speaker 2>she was a I think a teacher, then her vice principal.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's gone to seminary and and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if she would call herself a pastor or, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like just really is you know, connected to her the

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<v Speaker 2>higher source that she believes in. And so anyway she

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<v Speaker 2>has been going. She had posted on Instagram that she

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<v Speaker 2>was at this kind of like preaching conference and people

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<v Speaker 2>have been asking, hey, Terry, you've been like taking like

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<v Speaker 2>a year off to like reconnect to other interests.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still trading? And she said yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The beautiful part like about being a trader is I

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<v Speaker 2>can decide when I want to be in and out,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, this morning, I just took this trade,

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<v Speaker 2>and she sold a screenshot of it. She took a

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<v Speaker 2>trade where she put in about two hundred thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>it was with Apple and she withdrew or traded nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand. Like what an incredible return can you imagine

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<v Speaker 2>making in a day? And I remember the first time

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<v Speaker 2>she made her first million dollar trade. She did it

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<v Speaker 2>online and she was showing us, and I just thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so we were talking yesterday, I told her,

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<v Speaker 2>because what I really love about Terry is that she

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<v Speaker 2>will take She literally has a nonprofit where she gives

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<v Speaker 2>especially like kids, and she she will trade specifically for

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<v Speaker 2>that nonprofit, Like, oh, I'm going to make this trade.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm working on making a million dollar trades

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<v Speaker 2>so I can give a million dollars to these children,

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<v Speaker 2>the children focused organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just thought, I want to do that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like we were talking, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about last night.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I feel like everything that I wanted for

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<v Speaker 2>myself and my family I've been able to accomplish, and

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<v Speaker 2>now I want to be me. I'm altruistic, like quietly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people come out, reach out to me, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always buying, Like you know, if a teacher comes

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<v Speaker 2>to me and has like an Amazon, you know, like wishless,

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<v Speaker 2>I buy it all out and things like that, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm putting a couple of kids through school. But I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be big, like more altruistic in a bigger way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told her it's one of the motivations for

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<v Speaker 2>me to learn how to trade, because I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to say, oh, I took this fifty I

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<v Speaker 2>made two hundred thousand, and now I can give it

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<v Speaker 2>to this organization, like this is organization and Kenya I

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<v Speaker 2>think about all the time when I went there that

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<v Speaker 2>helped young women who were young teen moms, many of

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<v Speaker 2>whom were pregnant through essay, sometimes from family members. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they even their own fathers and been thrown away. And

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<v Speaker 2>so this wife and husband duo, they they started this

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, beautiful place for these girls to live,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't have mattresses, they didn't have this. And

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<v Speaker 2>the woman was a nurse and what caused her to

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<v Speaker 2>start this nonprofit in Kenya was that aby had been

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<v Speaker 2>thrown in the garbage by a young girl. They found

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<v Speaker 2>the baby, took them to the hospital, and she tried

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<v Speaker 2>her best to save this little baby, and the baby

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<v Speaker 2>did not make it, and she said, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>get here? And she started to dig further back because

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<v Speaker 2>so many babies were being brought to the hospital as

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<v Speaker 2>a result of this, of young teen girls throwing the

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<v Speaker 2>baby away because it was the only way they could

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<v Speaker 2>be re entered back into their family. And so she

0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.200
<v Speaker 2>realized that it was the teen girls she had to help.

0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:29.160
<v Speaker 2>She could not wait until the baby was here and harmed.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she, you know, at the time, she had

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<v Speaker 2>this amazing boyfriend who is now her husband, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how we're going to do is

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have any money, but I feel compelled. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when I went to Kenya, I donated, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a good amount of money to that organization. But I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be able to be more regular and not

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<v Speaker 2>that I'll make good money now, but I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to do that. I want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to say, look, yo, I you know this year, whatever

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I trade, you know, I make two hundred three hundred thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>and here are the four organizations that I'm going to

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:57.320
<v Speaker 2>give to. So she and I that's what we were

0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about last night when she told me Mandy about

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just another level of philanthropy that I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I can unlock. So I'm excited about like

0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.159
<v Speaker 2>that journey because certainly I know how to invest in

0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the basic form, like you know, I know how to

0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 2>pick my mutual fund because I mean, you know, what

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 2>are we looking at? You know, I know to pick

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 2>my little ETFs, I set it and forget it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be more active and that I don't

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 2>know how to do. And Terry was like, well, I'm

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 2>right here, Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, are you taking her course?

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<v Speaker 1>I am so.

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<v Speaker 2>I I got her course because before I even like

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 2>knew new Terry, I had brought her course and so

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<v Speaker 2>I watched some.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know how it is with all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just you know, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized that, yes, and now I'm ready to commit

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<v Speaker 2>because for me, it's a bigger thing that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to accomplish. But so yeah, I just say all that

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 2>to say that Terry is one of the most dynamic,

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<v Speaker 2>smartest but.

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<v Speaker 1>Also so kind.

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<v Speaker 2>You know all the stuff if you only knew some

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff that she does behind the scenes and

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:52.159
<v Speaker 2>service of other people, and so it was watching her

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.920
<v Speaker 2>do that through trading, like making all this money.

0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:55.879
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, I mean you're not.

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing wrong with a Gucci bag or a Lousvton whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's that's not Terry.

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>She's making all this money and that's not where it's

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>going because.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, she loves real estate because Harry likes

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 2>to purchase properties, and then she likes being of service

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 2>and that's about it. And so to watch that that's

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 2>what wealth can look like as well, you know, kind

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 2>of puts a little better in my back, Like, look

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:21.159
<v Speaker 2>what happens when black women have access to wealth. You know,

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 2>like she gets to serve, like in a way that

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 2>other people would not be looking at, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>other people that may be forgotten.

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>So we just love Terry.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it wouldn't matter if she worked at McDonald's

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 3>or she had ten dollars in her back pocket. I

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<v Speaker 3>just feel like she's just the kind of she's just

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 3>good people. And I don't know, I just felt the

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<v Speaker 3>vibe and I'm just like, will you just hang out

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<v Speaker 3>with me for my life?

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:50.360
<v Speaker 3>She's like, oh, I live in Puerto Rico, but yeah,

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 3>it was an amazing event set and it also reminded

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<v Speaker 3>me like if y'all are if you're listening and you're

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 3>just feeling like you're in a rut for whatever reason.

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 3>It can be your health, can be your career, it

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:04.919
<v Speaker 3>can be money, you're just feeling like, ah, just rusty, dusty.

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Find a community, like find an in person event that

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 3>you can go to and just where you can engage

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 3>with other people where you have something in common. So

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.360
<v Speaker 3>whether it's like a women's focusing or women of color focusing,

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.920
<v Speaker 3>or it's like the interest that you have, like, just

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 3>go and connect. Because human connection it feels so like

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in those moments where you're gonna run, like

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I have been like a lot, it can feel so draining,

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 3>the idea of you're like I don't want that, But

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 3>going toward the thing that seems like it's so hard,

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 3>like you don't want to do, which is like connect

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 3>and that human connection it hits every time. Man. It

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 3>just like go with an open mind and let that

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 3>reinvigorate you. And even if it's just one person that

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.959
<v Speaker 3>you meet or one conversation that you have. Last night

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 3>was very healing and just lovely to be in such

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:56.679
<v Speaker 3>a warm, loving space.

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<v Speaker 1>That's look at me. I'm just say yes past suit.

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<v Speaker 2>At first I thought you just went, and then I

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, not her being on stage, okay, I didn't know.

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 3>I was like, yes, I made a joke. I'm like,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 3>next time, I'm not gonna put the photoshopped image of

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<v Speaker 3>myself quite so big on the first slide because the

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 3>screen behind me was like life sized Mandy photoshopped with

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 3>like real life Mandy not photoshopped. And I was like,

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 3>let me just stand in front of her because y'all

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 3>are no.

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<v Speaker 1>It was beautiful. I was just love.

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 3>It was like, wow, I heard not and not my

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 3>friend on stage slag. I was like, oh, so my

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 3>talk was how to negotiate, like how to negotiate contracts

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 3>and rates.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which, we're gonna take a break, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>and come back brown. I'm gonna I'm gonna do a

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<v Speaker 2>light brown break AKA ask Mandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Absolutely? All right, We'll take a brand a rampy

0:25:54.119 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 3>back in a minute, and we're that And now it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Time for boost break up, boost up, break up, boost up?

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<v Speaker 1>Break Are you gonna boost? Are you going to break?

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>What you gonna do?

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 2>You gon't say, I don't know if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>go first with a booster break or you just want

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 2>to answer my question, like how do you want to

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 2>do this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll go first because I have a question for you.

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to feel about something that happened

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<v Speaker 3>last night. You know how like when something happens and

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 3>you just kind of you think you handle it okay,

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 3>and then someone else comes to you they have a

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 3>really intense reaction to it, and you're like, oh, wait.

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>This is good. Look now that's asking each other questions.

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I'm all heres, go ahead.

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So last night I mentioned I was doing a presentation.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 3>I did a talk at this event, and I had

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 3>chatted with a couple. I was talking with Terry and

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 3>another woman at this event right before, and the woman

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 3>ends up ends up that she runs an agency and

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 3>she like reps brands who work with creators and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, oh, amazing, because I'm to go

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 3>up there and talk about like the negotiation process, and

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 3>she was interesting. We will talk for a little bit

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 3>and then I go on stage and I'm doing my

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 3>thing and I'm like three quarters of the way through

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 3>and I see her hand go up and this had

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 3>not happened the rest of the night for any other speakers.

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 3>Her hand went up, and because I had just spoken

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 3>with her, I don't know. I was just I was

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 3>just having a great time. And I was like, wait,

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 3>do you have a question and she's like, no, no, no,

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 3>I have a tip, Like I have a tip, and

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.880
<v Speaker 3>she like and it was actually really yeah, don't see

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 3>your face, and it threw me a little bit, but

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm just going with it, like you

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 3>have something to add, okay. So she just I mean,

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 3>she's like one thing, She's like an asterisk to whatever

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 3>I was saying, I have an asterisk. And she shared

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 3>her tip and I was like, oh, that's a and

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 3>I just like complimented her in the moment. I was like, okay,

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 3>that's a great tip, thank you so much. And then

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 3>I very quickly and I had to do like real

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 3>quick mental math to tie it back in to what

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 3>I had been talking about, and it really could have

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 3>thrown me off, but I was just proud that I

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 3>stayed in the moment. I let her say her thing,

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 3>and I just like kept going, and you know, I

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 3>was like, not didn't feel amazing, but you know, I

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 3>got through it okay, and I kept going. And then

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 3>later on when we were all leaving, one of the

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 3>organizers came up and she was like, what was that about.

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I was about to go over there and I was

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 3>about to say something. I was like, and I was like,

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 3>it's okay. I wasn't upset like I but it did

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 3>make me feel It reminded me of those times when

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.439
<v Speaker 3>you were like at work or you're in a meeting

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 3>and you're speaking up and for some reason people talk

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 3>over you. And I just wonder, was it because I

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 3>don't know that I make her feel like I was

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 3>like overly friendly? Did she think that I was like

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 3>someone that she could like walk over like. I don't know, Like,

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't know what was it about me that

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 3>made her feel like let me raise my hand and

0:28:54.920 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 3>interrupt this person who's giving a speech, like giving a talk. No,

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 3>And I think I handled it, okay. I still don't.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm still not mad.

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I liked her.

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.719
<v Speaker 3>She's she had a lot, she was very smart. Oh,

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 3>I didn't mention during her comment was also and here's

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>the right person to ask about this topic? And she

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 3>like spelled out the name of the person that she

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 3>wanted everybody to go and follow wha, that's.

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>A little that's a that's so do you let me

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>leave with that?

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Because at first I was like, oh, sorry, I forgot

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>until just now.

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, can I give you some feedback?

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, One, she wouldn't have done that to a man.

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, let's just put that out there.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>She would not have done that to a man because

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>first of all, he was not gonna wait, he's not

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 2>picking on her to raise her hand. And two, you know,

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 2>you know in general, the one it's like, girl, if

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>the girls wanted to hear from you, you'd be on stage.

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>But you know sometimes that's happened before. People someone would to.

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Have something to say.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I typically and it just is just

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, you can always say, hey, I I'm gonna

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>take any questions or comments at the end if we

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>have time.

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, That's what I usually would do.

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Depending on like you know, like I can I can

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>get you know, you gauge the audience, like if it's

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>a small group, sometimes I don't mind, like kind of

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 2>a you know, call and repeat.

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a huge audience. It was maybe like one

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 3>hundred women, so it felt intimate.

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but also too, you had twenty minutes. This is

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 2>not an hour long talk, so it's also there's that too,

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 2>to keep it. You know, what she did was wrong

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>and rude, so let's just put that out there. I

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 2>should have started with that it was wrong and rude.

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>That like one, you have a tip. That's a tip

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>that she could because she felt like I'm the authority

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>in this because I'm the brand person.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, girl, find you a stage, find you a stage,

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and do that, and then this is who you need

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to ask girl, I I the expert is in the room.

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>That is now that is rude. That would have got

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 2>a hey, I didn't like that you did that. Like

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>it's one thing, I have a tip, it's another thing

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>to redirect people to someone else. And I might have

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>said because honestly, sometimes depending what kind of mood you get,

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 2>I might have said something snarky, funny where it's he

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>he had had not really like wow.

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Not you, not you?

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Not you suggesting an expert when the experts on stage,

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, no, no, you don't. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>you should have done that, because that's so Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be the bigger person and I Also,

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 3>it's a women's event, like we're supposed to be there

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<v Speaker 3>supporting each other. I didn't want to set a tone

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<v Speaker 3>of like like is she being catty? Is she trying

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<v Speaker 3>to come Like I feel confident enough at the end

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 3>of the day, I am the one on stage, so

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I have more the power in that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want her to like I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 3>I but it's something that you wake up the next

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>day and you're like, huh, that happened. And now that

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 3>I've said it out loud on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>To her, yeah, there we reach out to her. I will. Yeah.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 2>That was a lack of self awareness and it was rude.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying because you can be rude and not

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>intentionally rude. Sometimes we're rude because we didn't you know,

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 2>cause it's like, girl, don't do that, and it's good

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>if you return.

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<v Speaker 3>Last speaker, it did not happen to anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm just like, because also too, she has

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<v Speaker 2>to learn don't do that, because here's what's going to happen.

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna find somebody who's gonna tell you off, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you're gonna be like.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, what I did not know, So she's gonna pick

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 3>the right one and girl, and.

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>The right and the wrong one at the same time.

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, depending on what kind of mood I

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 2>was in, I was gonna give you, oh, thank you

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 2>so much and moving along like you did, or because

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I've done a little snarky comeback, because for whatever reason

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I was, I was in that mood where I'm just like,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>not you disrespecting the speaker that's here, and that way.

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<v Speaker 3>She could be a good one because this I'll save

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 3>that in my pocket for negative that happens again. Well,

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I think if it happens again, I'll just I was

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 3>just about to tell you to guess no, it was

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 3>a white woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, girl, I knew.

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Please, That's what I was gonna say, because the question

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, you know a question I want

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 2>to ask, yes or no. Yeah, it's the entitlement wait woman, Yeah,

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 2>to be lucky depends. Like I said, if I was

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<v Speaker 2>in a real bad mood, I would have ended with

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<v Speaker 2>it's the entitlement for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I right, I can't wait to turn this into

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 3>a clip. It's good, this little nugget. All right, thank

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 3>you for helping me work through that, What have I

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<v Speaker 3>learned that I know what I'm going to say next time,

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 3>and I'm also going to reach out to them and

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<v Speaker 3>just yeah, let them know that that how that made

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 3>me feel. And don't do that again, lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that again. Yeah, because the next problem is

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>kind all right, Well, I have a question for you.

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Mine is a brown break.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have been getting a lot, I know, a

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of requests for speaking. I do want to say, like,

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 2>in the last two weeks or so, maybe like five

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 2>or six people finding my damns. And so either one

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>they're like, wall you want to get paid? Wait no,

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>or they're like, here's two dollars and fly yourself down,

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>find your own hotel. The last one was the most egregious.

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say it real light because I just want

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to say I don't I'm okay. The last one the

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<v Speaker 2>most egregious because it was a big, big, big billion

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>dollar brand who wanted me.

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 1>The jokes is right themselves.

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 2>They wanted me to speak on a panel about equal

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 2>pay and equal access to credit. Because it's like, I

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know, like there's like you know, I guess you know,

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 2>in the seventies, women got the ability to get credit

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>cards without their husbands and their fathers whatever. And so

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>the panel was about equal paying, eco access to credit.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, okay, hey, so you know I had

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 2>my booking person. I have a booking person that like

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 2>works on commission. It was like, you know, Tiffany equal

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>pay and equal access credit or something. She's really passionate

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>about it. So she has a woman of colorr blah

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>blah oftentimes whatever like all that would love to know

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 2>more details daytime and budget for her to come speak.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Of course they came back. Wait, like Dge, we was hoping,

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like it's a really good room for her to be in.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl, not exposure girl not paying a.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Black woman to talk about equal pay for exposure? Not

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>not in on Harriet tubbans Internet.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Not what I'm short circuiting.

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I said, not you writeing equal pay and

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 2>say can you work for free to a black woman?

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean them before? Have you worked with them before?

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Not in this capacity?

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Hmm.

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm talking to keep it light because I'm

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>just like you know, but I just was like, I

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.280
<v Speaker 2>wasn't surprised by it, but so annoyed.

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Would you love to jump in a call to say

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 1>what to say we're not gonna pay you, but girl,

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>you be in the you could be in the rooms, girl.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.439
<v Speaker 1>And I just like, I was so annoyed because that's

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>not the that's the norm, rather than the like, you

0:35:58.640 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>know me, it'd be one thing.

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh these one off No, Like more and

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 2>more people are really shocked, like, oh, Tiffany, we came

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>to you because you're so amazing.

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Wait you want to be compensated.

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 2>We thought we could get a blacker on a panel

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.439
<v Speaker 2>to make it look like, look we got a black

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 2>go on that panel to show at quality.

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh but she's here for free. I just it was

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>really annoying.

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 2>So I just was like, yeah, I don't have the

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.439
<v Speaker 2>capacity to work for free. So thanks, so thanks, thanks

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 2>so much for thinking of me. So my question to you,

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Mandra is oh, okay in these instances, because I feel

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>like it keeps coming up and I'm like, what am

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I Am I positioning myself wrong?

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Where people?

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously people pet there are some people who pay,

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 2>but I would say the vast majority of people that

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 2>are reaching out are either reaching out they have like

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 2>two dollars or they want me to work for free.

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like so I'm asking myself to the same question. Like,

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're like, did I position myself correctly?

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:50.720
<v Speaker 1>On stage?

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, am I positioning myself wrong? Like why

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>do so many people think, ooh, we could get Tiffany

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 2>to do it, you know, you know, and she'll do.

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>It for free or for no money or you know.

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah that and then when those things come in,

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 2>are there some negotiating tips to try to open up

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 2>the budget?

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a really good question. It's also like, what

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.479
<v Speaker 3>is it about Yeah? I get it, it's a fair question.

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 3>What is it about you that when you sit down

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 3>and you're on the marketing team and you're like, Okay,

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 3>we're playing this event, who can we book? And the

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 3>budget's kind of tight, so you know, keep that in mind,

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, Okay, we're gonna ask Tiffany like like

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 3>we could get her for what I don't know, excuse

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 3>me from a negotiation standpoint, What I'll just say is, no,

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that it's I you can't control other

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 3>people's bias and other people's like perception of you, and

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 3>they're limiting beliefs about what you can and what you're worth.

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 3>And what you're valued as. The only thing I would

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 3>say is who's on the other side reminding people who

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 3>the f you are and without being like it. You

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 3>don't have like with your brand for example, like you

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 3>don't have a corporate sponsor. Like for me for a

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 3>long time, is this white guy who was my boss

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 3>and he was in all the c suites and stuff,

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and he would bring up my name and he would

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 3>like make people think of me the way that I

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 3>deserve to be thought about. But until they hear it

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 3>from themselves, and that's a part of the puzzle for

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 3>a lot of women, especially women of color, who feel

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 3>like they're not being paid their worth and they were

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 3>in corporated, it's like that's kind of a missing puzzle piece.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Is like having someone who can vouch for you and

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 3>make people see you through their lens, okay, because unfortunately,

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 3>until they hear it from someone that they do have

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 3>that level of trust and respect for, they will take

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 3>a look at you and their biases will win every time.

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, like even like forget about your followers. They

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 3>may be coming to you for the first time, but

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 3>they're not from your audience and they don't get it.

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 3>They don't get the budget needs to affect the power

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 3>of that brand. So yeah, that's what I feel. And

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 3>you can't have a sponsor or a person in every

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 3>marketing room with brands that you work for. So yeah,

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm just wondering, like who on the other side, like

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 3>the marketing reps and whatever, Like how can you get

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 3>in front of them so that they can truly understand, Like, oh,

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 3>if we go to Tiffany, like we need to come correct.

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess the thing is I mean, to be fair,

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not speaking is not it's a thing that we

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>don't pursue.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>It just will land. So I'm just like, oh if

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I get speaking work, because it's not the core center

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of the business. So like you know' I have other

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>components of the business.

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:31.919
<v Speaker 2>Like for example, we just launch like for the book

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, Get Your Money, We actually today launches a

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 2>get Go with Money planned, which is like because everybody,

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the book has just been doing so well,

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 2>still selling about six to seven hundred copies a week

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>still and people still are hitting.

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Me up for like I didn't understand this part and

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand that part. So we have this like.

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Twelve twelve module like video series, you know, with like

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 2>like checking for learning, and it's not just me that

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 2>teaches it. Every module's taught by different educator and most

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 2>of which are the ones who are also in the book.

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not an attorney. I cannot teach you a

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 2>state planning. So my estate planning attorney who I interviewed

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 2>for the book and you know, and I told you

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 2>guys about in the book, is the same one teaching

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 2>that module, you know, And so I'm excited about that.

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 2>So but what I love about that is that, like,

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, those are the things where my business is

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 2>based around, right, But this.

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Speaking is kind of like, well, if at lands on

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>my inbox and it makes sense, oh maybe I'll do it.

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I won't.

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 2>So I you know, I haven't given it like some

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of like priority, but I guess that's the thing,

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 2>like I maybe if to your pointfe I was like,

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 2>because I know I could sign up with a speaking

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 2>bureau who would be the person in the room for me,

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 2>because my friend lovely told me. She was like, you know, Tiffany,

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I make seven figures a year speaking, but she speaks

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot. I can introduce you to my speaking bureau

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure then I would get like, you know,

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 2>it'd be different because that bureau would be like we

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 2>only I'm sure the speaking bureau she's a part of

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 2>only represents HI to your speakers and they enter into

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the room with my here's my roster versus people kind

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 2>of find me online and honestly, what a lot of

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.919
<v Speaker 2>it ends up being, which is to your point, Mandy,

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>is that it'll be an infinity group, a black and

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Brian infinity group who gets no respect, so they get

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 2>no budget, and so it's this beautiful black woman who

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 2>reaches out. It's like we don't really have which you know,

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 2>so she's basically they're not paying me because this is

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the way they see her.

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, like I said, like, I mean,

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not that.

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean I've gotten you know, it's not often, but

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten six figures for speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's definitely been times when I have to really

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<v Speaker 1>push back.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, I won't say the name because I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to work with them again, but they came to

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<v Speaker 2>me like, basically, why should we pay you on it?

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, one of my speaking thing was fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. They wanted to pay me like ten and

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<v Speaker 2>so like I had my admin at the time call.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a black woman who reached out to me

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<v Speaker 2>and so basically be like, cis, here's everything. Activity is accomplished.

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, like what you're asking of her.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't. It's like, this is what you paid the

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<v Speaker 1>other And she was like, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>We put a battery in her back, so it put

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<v Speaker 2>a She then went to her this if I say

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<v Speaker 2>this conglomerate, I mean it's huge, huge, huge, They're a TV,

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<v Speaker 2>they're in amusement parks, they're everything, and so huge conglomerate.

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<v Speaker 1>They paid me my fifty thousand. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty or fifty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember whatever my price was at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and then came back later to apologize because they said

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<v Speaker 2>it was so well received that I was right, that

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<v Speaker 2>I was worth every penny, and so I appreciated that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I'd like to work with them again. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to drag them, but it was an

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<v Speaker 2>instance where I had to like really be like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>ask me to do something, and I'll end with this story.

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<v Speaker 2>It made me feel so bad. It was a big magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give a hint, don't be late beyond anyway. So

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<v Speaker 2>this big old magazine had reached out to me for

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<v Speaker 2>what I thought was an interview. You know, we know

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<v Speaker 2>you're a journalist. We don't pay people to be interviewed,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So they're like, oh, come into the art

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<v Speaker 2>for the interview. We want to talk about money something.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, that's no problem. I having to bring

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy come to the office. And I was like, well,

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>so cure, I'm getting like and they were like, we'd

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<v Speaker 2>love it to be a video interview. I said, again,

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<v Speaker 2>no problem. So I brought Leela, my makeup artist. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought this, this, this is a pretty big interview,

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<v Speaker 2>like because you know, because this is not they're not

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<v Speaker 2>a television show. So the setup was so like extravagant

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<v Speaker 2>all the things. And before I know that we'd love

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>for you to meet the client, I'm like, client, what client? Like,

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm here for an interview.

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<v Speaker 1>This is isn't it. You know you're a journalistic an interview, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it? And like oh no.

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<v Speaker 2>The client was like Procter and Gamble I think it was,

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<v Speaker 2>or Dove or whatever, and I said that sounds odd.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl.

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<v Speaker 2>They ended up asking me questions about equal pay for

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 2>black women. Do you know this was not an interview,

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 2>This was a campaign. This is a campaign that they

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<v Speaker 2>got good paid, good money from Procter and Gamble and

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<v Speaker 2>Dove or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The client is in the room loving me.

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<v Speaker 2>They specifically asked me we loved Tiffany and they had

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<v Speaker 2>me in there working for free, for free and tricking

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<v Speaker 2>me with the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so pissed.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't of course, you know, during the time of

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<v Speaker 2>professional the client was like, I'm like, god, we love

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<v Speaker 2>We're so happy we specifically asked for you.

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<v Speaker 1>God da, I said, as I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got back and I told my spokesperson agent,

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<v Speaker 2>and she ripped them a new one. They ended up

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<v Speaker 2>giving me some money.

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Because she was like, is this what we do?

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Now? Come for a press interview and then make it

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 2>that it's a campaign being shot. That's a lot of money.

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>When I charged for a campaign, you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Get to use my image to promote a brand that

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I did not agree to, because what if I was

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<v Speaker 2>working with their competitor.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really really bad.

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 2>So it's not just me whining, Like when when when

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you know you're not getting paid big money. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>this is what's out here, and so it's just really frustrating.

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 2>And so now I have to ask when I do

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 2>interviews that's not you know, with people who have not

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<v Speaker 2>done interviews before, like is this being.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Sponsored by someone else? Is this being this?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I've done even like a magazine interviews where it's

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<v Speaker 2>laden with all the sponsorship to make it seem like

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm agreeing with whatever product that they've laced through, and

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I've had to call them and say, you have to

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 2>take that down because I'm working with a partner where

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do that, you know, whether that's true or not,

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 2>that's what I tell.

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Them, you know.

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 2>And so it's just really frustrating. Like, you know, even

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 2>at my the budgeties to just turned sixteen. So even

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 2>after all these years and all the accomplishments and all

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 2>the things, and the White House and the New York

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Times and Netflix and Knitted, I still got to manage

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the bullshit sometimes.

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 1>So it's just frustrating.

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that we should expect. The uncomfortable truth here

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.360
<v Speaker 3>is that as black women, there is no like magical

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:43.919
<v Speaker 3>mountaintop where all of a sudden it's like everyone knows

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 3>your worth and then just comes to you don't have

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 3>to like fight for that recognition. I mean I think

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 3>about Beyonce a little bit because she still does not

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 3>get the recognition she deserves. And I'm like, if Beyonce

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 3>still is not winning these Grammys, But you know what

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like what makes us any different? And I

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:04.879
<v Speaker 3>think the negotiation tip here is to like never don't

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 3>never get too comfortable. Always recognize that it's not good enough.

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Whatever they're offering you is probably not good enough, and

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 3>that you are worth more. So I mean in our

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 3>case is we can have an agent or someone to

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 3>like be that person. Hopefully you turn to your agent

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 3>or your yeah, whoever reps you in this situation and say, like,

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 3>can you make it clear to them that this is

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 3>the value I bring? So let them that person be

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 3>your advocate and let them know, okay, next time, come correct.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 3>That's what I would say from a negotiation standpoint. They

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 3>have to be they have to be smart enough to

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<v Speaker 3>be excited as hell to find the budget for you,

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes we have to help them get there. Yeah,

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 3>a lot of times you have to help them get there.

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Girls, So if you are home, you know, listening, thinking like, Okay,

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>it's not just you, you know, Unfortunately, this is the

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.439
<v Speaker 2>fight that we fight as people of color, as women

0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 2>of color in particular, and sometimes just any on. You know,

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 2>oftentimes people don't see our value. But you know that,

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, I still try my best what I call

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 2>illustrate my oprah. But some days it's just like, are

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you freaking kidding me? Equal pay for zero? They're my girl,

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>come work this cotton field.

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 3>And when those moments happen, it's like, don't give up.

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just it's just you have to have

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 3>the right mindset, which is just like, okay, sometimes it

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 3>should be happening. So let's just go back to reminding them,

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh this is this again. Okay, yes, girl, I.

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Said my whole media kid, it shows all the accomplishments

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 2>and say yeah, unfortunately, boom here you go.

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, y'all, well we don't see you. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see you on Friday for b A qa A.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have any reviews before we jump off?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, we did see a couple of new reviews.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let me go fine.

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<v Speaker 2>While lady's looking for reviews. You know, we love, we

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<v Speaker 2>love words of affirmation. Around here written down as reviews

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, we've gotten like twenty new reviews just this month. Amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>So last on a recent episode, we talked about your

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<v Speaker 3>moving experience and trying to get your refrigerator. Did the

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<v Speaker 3>refrigerator make it to you?

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<v Speaker 2>No? It could not be work which one? So I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't new one I know, thankfully though. My neighbor around

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<v Speaker 2>the corner she had just called me. I was on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone with her when they brought it over there, like, ma'am,

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 2>this refrigerator is thirty inches, this doorway is twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so the math is not mathing.

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<v Speaker 2>Suck it in, girl, I know, can we just He

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<v Speaker 2>was like no, And so I was on the phone

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<v Speaker 2>with my neighbor and she her refrigerator literally just.

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<v Speaker 3>Died and oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just was like, girl, you want this refrigerator

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 2>because it's just gonna be now, it's gonna be my driveway.

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 2>And she was like really, are you sure? She said,

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<v Speaker 2>you can always put it on Facebook market. But I'm like,

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do that in three months and it's gonna

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>be rotten. Now just take the Dame refrigerator. And so

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 2>it was my gift to her. And so look the

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<v Speaker 2>world as the world turns.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm good now listen. Okay. So we had a

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<v Speaker 3>commenter who said, I love that this is the review.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even a review, it's just a comment on

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<v Speaker 3>our episode. It's like moving cross country as a single,

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<v Speaker 3>middle aged black woman. Good experience because I took no furniture,

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<v Speaker 3>ship boxes direct, shipped boxes early and got on the

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<v Speaker 3>plane with four suitcases from California to Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good for you, rdc MA.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I love that moy Race has literally just shared

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<v Speaker 3>your show with a friend. I'm a first time listener

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<v Speaker 3>and I just love your energy. You're so fun to

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<v Speaker 3>listen to look forward to many more listening listens. And

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<v Speaker 3>then Kisses two thousands says hey, ladies, you too are

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<v Speaker 3>business to family. You guys are a breath of fresh air.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Are so damned sway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, leave your reviews. We will. We will read them

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<v Speaker 3>live on the show out so just to show you

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<v Speaker 3>that we appreciate them so much. Until next time ya Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye,