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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,

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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.

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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after

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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full

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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig

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Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about

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Speaker 1: the Notorious Big Rest in peace, Robbie Robertson and that

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Speaker 1: r acee disgrace, and of course your voicemails, text, dms

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Speaker 1: and more and as always, a whole.

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Speaker 1: All right, discues, let's get into it, okay, and this

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Speaker 1: week's re release of Part one of the Notorious Big Story. Listen,

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Speaker 1: we're doing this, you know, re release here of the

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Speaker 1: parts one and part two of Big because we're coming

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Speaker 1: up where we're at, actually, I should say, the fiftieth

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Speaker 1: anniversary of hip hop and we are also in a

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Speaker 1: the next season of Disgraceland and that entire season will

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Speaker 1: be hip hop focused. More on that later. It's not

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Speaker 1: what you think. I promise you. If you're on our

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Speaker 1: So if you want to be in on the in

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Speaker 1: for our emails. That's easy to do on our website

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Speaker 1: www dot disgrace leympod dot com. But back to this

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Speaker 1: notorious big story. In these episodes, we talk about the

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Speaker 1: hop artists of all time, the notorious Biggie Smalls. He

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Speaker 1: But that whole saga, it almost never happened. I'm not

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Speaker 1: Roger Waters and David Gilmour, Liam and Noel Gallagher. There's

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Speaker 1: We've got two episodes on Big, two episodes on Pac,

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Speaker 4: Oh ao beer Jake.

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Speaker 5: This is Neil from the four one oh aka four

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Speaker 4: You can find me on the igs.

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Speaker 3: What the fuck look, bro? Armored?

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Speaker 4: We got to talk about Armored?

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Speaker 4: I don't usually re listen to podcasts, but I fucking

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Speaker 4: have listened to each episode of Armored about six times.

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Speaker 4: I annoy the fuck out of people in my recommendations

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Speaker 4: for it, and I need another goddamn season.

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Speaker 2: It's been like two years.

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Speaker 4: That shit is fucking amazing. Not the Disgracedland isn't.

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Speaker 4: I know there's not too many, like you know, arm

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Speaker 3: God damn it, wait a thousand days of Armored.

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Speaker 4: I'll be in touch with Audio Chuck if they approve heard.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Nils, please contact Audio Chuck. Hit him up, hit

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Speaker 1: up Ashley Flowers, hit her up on Instagram, let him

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Speaker 1: know you're looking for another season Armored. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: on armored truck robberies. I'm not sure why they asked

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Speaker 1: me to do it. Maybe because I'm from Boston and

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Speaker 1: If you need to fix though, I might recommend the

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Speaker 1: following Armored heist movies to watch, which you've probably seen

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Speaker 1: and if you want to hear Armored, that podcast is

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Speaker 5: This is Jessica from the three one four Saint Louis, Missouri.

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Speaker 5: You You're podcast was actually the first podcast I ever

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Speaker 1: So thanks to Double Elvis. And so you know, Jessica,

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Speaker 1: But you might want to check out about a Girl.

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Speaker 1: We've got a new show called Sound of Our Town

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Speaker 1: right now. And about a Girl. That's another one that

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Speaker 1: Lampod on Facebook, on Twitter. I want to know where

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Speaker 1: From the three three Oh. Hey, Jake David here from

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Speaker 1: but perhaps there's some way there's something here. It feels

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Speaker 1: like there's something here, something to get into, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I don'tant to think about it. And maybe I'll have

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Speaker 1: some news. I don't know, maybe something will pop. Who knows?

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Speaker 1: Three three oh from the nine My two cents about

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Speaker 1: the Lizo drama. Heye jake, I'm say okay, hold on

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Speaker 1: the Lizo drama for those who missed the bonus excuse

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Speaker 1: me for those who missed the mini episode this week.

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Speaker 1: The Lizo drama has to do with the allegations by

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Speaker 1: Lizzo's team, some of her dancers alleging that Lizzo sexually

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Speaker 1: harassed them at a strip club in Amsterdam, or I

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Speaker 1: should say a sex show in Amsterdam. And there are

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Speaker 1: some other allegations that from her team that Lizzo was

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Speaker 1: body shaming them, which is the height of all irony.

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Speaker 2: Makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: So anyways, we get this text here from the nine

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Speaker 1: to five to one. My two cents about the Lizo drama.

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Speaker 1: Heye Jake, I'm a seamstress in La seamstress for the band.

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Speaker 1: I added that, and I worked for a designer who

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Speaker 1: a few years back made some custom performance costumes for Lizzo,

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Speaker 1: and they poured their heart and souls into making these beautiful,

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Speaker 1: well made costumes for Lizzo just to have been completely

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Speaker 1: shit on by her and her team.

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Speaker 2: Damn all right, I'm not going to read.

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Speaker 1: The rest of this cause it's uh, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: all alleged. But anyways, Uh, what do you guys think

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Speaker 1: of this Lizzo thing? Let me know six one seven

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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. The story's nuts.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear from you guys, your thoughts on it.

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Speaker 1: The irony is just too rich. Let's do a couple

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Speaker 1: more texts here. Last week we were talking about what

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Speaker 1: are you listening to after work when you're cracking a beer?

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Speaker 2: It's a specific ritual, you know what I mean? I really,

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Speaker 2: I really fucking enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I have my whole life I'm sure you guys do

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Speaker 1: as well post work. Crack of brew cuts from the

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Speaker 1: five to three to oh says Guns n' Roses, Paradise City,

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Speaker 1: Katrina and the Waves, Walking on Sunshine, The Doors, La Woman,

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Speaker 1: John Party, Heartache, Medication all Right, John Party, Motley Crue,

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Speaker 1: Kickstart My Heart, just to name a few great lists.

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Speaker 2: Five to three to zero love It. What are you

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Speaker 2: guys listening to at the end of the day? Let

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Speaker 2: me know. Let's see a couple.

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Speaker 1: More here, five oho nine rights in, Hey, Jake, Greetings

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Speaker 1: from Jill of the five oh nine have been a

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Speaker 1: Disgraceland and bad Lands listeners since their first episodes. As requested,

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Speaker 1: here are some pop rock duets, but I decided to

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Speaker 1: shout out three from the eighties. You get the Look

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Speaker 1: by Prince and Sheena Easton, I Knew you were Waiting

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Speaker 1: by George Michael and Aretha Franklin, and my personal fave,

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Speaker 1: good Times by Inexcess in Jimmy Barnes, which was on

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Speaker 1: the Lost Boys soundtrack.

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Speaker 2: I vaguely remember that. I gotta go back and listen

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Speaker 2: to the Lost Boys soundtrack.

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Speaker 1: I listened to all these. I don't remember the George

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Speaker 1: Michael and Aretha Franklin. I mean, I know, I know

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Speaker 1: they do edit. I just don't remember that tune. And

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Speaker 1: of course I remember the Prince and the Sheena Easton

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Speaker 1: won great, great great Rex here five oh nine, sending

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Speaker 1: me back to the eighties, which is always a welcome

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Speaker 1: thing to do.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Kind of, you know, half reading these texts here while

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you guys. Let's do one more here

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Speaker 1: nine seven eight, rights, saying, Hey, Jake, this is Jack

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Speaker 1: from Somerville. You were asking about best songs to Unwind too,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to say, you can't do better than

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Speaker 1: that smooth jazz fusion cheese that is Hey nineteen by

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Speaker 1: Steely Dan. Bonus points if you're mixing a drink while

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Speaker 1: you got it on. All right, good talk, see you

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Speaker 1: out there. Uh yeah, I hear this Hey nineteen. I

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Speaker 1: like Hay nineteen. Hey, I like Steely Dan. Now well,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I just said that publicly, but I do.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm gonna put a one Steely Dan track

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Speaker 1: on too Unwine Too, it's gonna be dirty work in

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Speaker 1: the number one slot and my old school in the

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Speaker 1: number two slot. There you go, an informed opinion from

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Speaker 1: yours truly on Steely Dan. You never thought it would happen.

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Speaker 1: Needed to di I all right, um, yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: the number six one seven nine O six six six

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Speaker 1: three eight. Hit me with your text, hit me with

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Speaker 1: your voicemails, hit me at disgrace, slam pod on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: and TikTok, and I shall get back to you, perhaps

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Speaker 1: even in one of these episodes. Gonna take a quick

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Speaker 1: break and we'll be back with your recommendations shortly. All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right, the recommendations part. This is the

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Speaker 1: recommendation's part, the part where we recommend the things that

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Speaker 1: need recommending, the recommendations part what I've been listening to.

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Speaker 1: So Robbie Robertson died, and it was sad, But in

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Speaker 1: these instances I try to remember that, Yes, of course,

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Speaker 1: it is a bummer when anyone dies, but this isn't

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Speaker 1: like Prince dying or Tom Petty. I mean, those guys

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Speaker 1: were older, but they definitely died too soon, and they did.

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Speaker 2: Not live their full lives.

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Speaker 1: Robbie Robertson was not young, and Robbie Robertson did live

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Speaker 1: a full life, a great life. Not the Prince and

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Speaker 1: Tom Petty did not. But again different circumstances. Robbie Robertson

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Speaker 1: lived out his life as one of the greatest rock

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Speaker 1: and roll lives a person can live.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not that sad. It's not like I knew

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Speaker 2: the guy.

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Speaker 1: But I was sad, a little sad, And I think

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Speaker 1: my sadness I was thinking about it. Where does it

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Speaker 1: come from?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: And I think it comes from the emotion in the music.

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Speaker 1: Of the band, and of course Robbie Robertson dies. You're

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, you start to hear a bunch of their songs,

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Speaker 1: you start listening to their stuff on purpose. You know,

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Speaker 1: these songs Across the Great Divide, the Night they drove

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Speaker 1: Little Dixie Down. These songs are steeped in deep, deep

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Speaker 1: resonant emotion and set to the death of one of

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Speaker 1: their songwriters. Can make it guy, you know, can make

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Speaker 1: a guy tear up?

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Speaker 2: I almost did, but I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I didn't know Robbie Robertson, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure most of you did not either. But I'm also

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Speaker 1: sure that, like me, a lot of you watched The

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Speaker 1: Last Waltz an infinite amount of time. So there's a

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Speaker 1: familiality with Robbie that is intense. And when he died,

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Speaker 1: I went back, and of course I watched some of

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Speaker 1: the Last Walls after hearing about his death, and was

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Speaker 1: no less emotionally walloped by it than I was when

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Speaker 1: I saw it for the very first time. And that's

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Speaker 1: because of the songs, his songs, the band's songs, and

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Speaker 1: Robbie Robertson's playing. The earnestness of everyone in the band,

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Speaker 1: not just Robbie, it's it's just something to see.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what else to say.

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Speaker 1: I said a lot you can hear it in the

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Speaker 1: mini episode, and I said some stuff on Instagram as well,

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Speaker 1: But you know, Garth Hutson incredibly the only one left

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Speaker 1: play on Garth. This is all a long way of

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Speaker 1: me recommending you watch Robbie Robertson in The Last Waltz.

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Speaker 1: If you have not already for whatever reason. Maybe you're young,

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Speaker 1: maybe you've never heard of it, maybe you don't like

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Speaker 1: the band for some reason, check out The Last Waltz. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: whatever your reason for not watching it, that is fine.

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Speaker 1: Just watch it. It's so fucking good. If you're into

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Speaker 1: rock and roll, it's a musty. For no other reason

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Speaker 1: then to just watch Robbie Robertson smoke Eric Clapton.

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Speaker 2: But that's another story, all right. What else am I

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Speaker 2: listening to?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm listening to another musician featured in the Last Waltz,

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Speaker 1: Muddy Waters, because one of our listeners, Robin Cave on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: hit me up, Robin put together this killer Muddy Waters playlist.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been able to stop listening to it. If

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Speaker 1: you're interested in Muddy Waters, you're interested in the blues,

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Speaker 1: or in an artist who perhaps influenced Robbie Robertson, then

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Speaker 1: go to Spotify and search Muddy for Jake. That's the

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Speaker 1: name of the playlist, Muddy for Jake. It's great, spans

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Speaker 1: his whole career. It's got a bunch of mid career

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Speaker 1: stuff that I never even knew existed. It's fucking great.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Robin, I appreciate it. All right, what are

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Speaker 1: you guys listening to? What music related content are you watching?

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Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight

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Speaker 1: To let me know, I'm going to take a quick break,

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Speaker 1: drink some tea.

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Speaker 2: Back after this.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's recap, shall we. Number one, Part one

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Speaker 1: of the notorious Big Rear Release is the latest episode

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Speaker 1: of Disgrace Slam that is in your feeds right now.

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Speaker 1: Number two over in the bad Lands Feed, we are

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Speaker 1: rolling along with season eight and a brand new episode

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Speaker 1: on Sigourney Weaver.

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Speaker 2: Remember you gotta go to.

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Speaker 1: The bad Lands feed and subscribe there to follow that

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Speaker 1: show and to get those episodes. Number three next week

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Speaker 1: in the disgraced Land Feed. You guessed it. Part two

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Speaker 1: of the notorious Big where we specifically get into his murder,

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Speaker 1: a murder which twenty six years later remains unsolved. But

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Speaker 1: you know, if you read between my lines, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure I cracked the case.

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Speaker 2: Number four.

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Speaker 1: My number is six one seven nine oh six six

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Speaker 1: six three eight. Call me on the telephone or text

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Speaker 1: me right now.

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Speaker 2: My moment of.

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Speaker 1: Bliss me reading you the phone book from Brooklyn in

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Speaker 1: honor of Biggie Small's circa nineteen thirty nine. Abramson Sidney

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Speaker 2: Quit talking and start mixing