1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: The city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportion, 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: mean biblic What he means this Old Testament? Yeah, mayor 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: real wrath of God type stuff, fire and brimstone coming 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: down to the sky, rivers and sea boiling. I'm gonna 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: use the start for birth place, great human sacrifice, dogs 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: and cats living together, that issparia. Something's change and who 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: are you gonna call ron an anient? They say it 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: needs a trans and there isn't one available for anywhere 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: from eight to ten weeks. No release date, and Sight 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: can't give us an approximate shift date, can't tell us 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: if and when. On top of which, it's eight grand 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: to put a trans in an eight year old escape. 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: What do you do? The car Doctor? I pulled the 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: master cylinder away from the booster and it didn't change anything. 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of at a loss as to where to 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: go next. Does this have the break proportion shoting valve 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: in the rear above the axle the load compensating valve, No, 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: it does not. It has the proportioning valve in the front. 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron and in Ian 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Since ninete one, this is where car 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage to 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: orders are open, but I am here to take your 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: call at eight five five five six and now let's 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: stay Popmarsh Colly running. Hey, well here we are. Another 27 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: week of auto repair has gone by, and I'm here 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: to talk to you about it and uh answer your 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: questions too at eight five five five zero nine zero 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: zero because I thought the car doctor does and has 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: done these past thirty one God is it going on 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: thirty two years? I don't know. I've lost track. Nineteen 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Where do we start this? Nine? It's been a while 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: so um, you know, just kind of rolling along, but 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: here to do it. Got a bunch of stories, A 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: bunch of great things happened in the shop this week, 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of good solid fixes, um, a bunch of challenges, 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of a bunch of things happened. It's we're 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that and then a couple of hours, 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: so you want to stick around. I want to start 41 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: off this week though, talking about the chattering Honda. I 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: don't know where else to start, but to call it that, 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: we had a a long time customer recommends somebody to 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: bring their car to the shop. Uh. And this person 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: came from Montalk, Long Island. If you're familiar with the 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: way where we are, we're we're in North Jersey based. 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: And um, this person came to us from Montalk, which 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: is about a two and a half three hour ride, 49 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: probably six with traffic. Uh, you know during the week. Um, 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: it's just it's a hall, right, it's not around the corner. 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: And and Sebastian brought men to c RV with a 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: concern that he was told he needed a transmission it 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: basically had it was creating a problem with the car 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: where the car would shake and you know, go through 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: these violent motions. And you know, he just wanted a 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: second opinion. Something in his sixth sense, whatever you want 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: to call it, spidy sense was up and he said, 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: you know it's before I put what could be four 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: to five thousand dollars into this eight year old vehicle, 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: let me go what this sounds familiar. It seems like 61 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of transmission problems lately. Let me get a 62 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: second opinion. How he comes, leaves me the car and 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: I go through. Listen, I still diagnosed the same way 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: I talked to you about it. Here, tell me what's good. 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Tell me what's good. I'll tell you what's bad. I 66 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: got a great story about an international that I can 67 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: tell you about two. I might bring that up this hour, 68 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: so you know. I went through the basics first of all, 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: where do we go scan it for codes? It was 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: nothing in there clean. Trans fluid level was good, and 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: not that I assumed the trans was bad or the 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: trans was the problem, but he mentioned trans. And I 73 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: do look at fluids on a diagnostic car, even though 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: you know a lot of times it's not necessary, but 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: it's good to know. Hey, what if you go out 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: on a road test and you're out road testing something 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: for any one of a multiple bunch of different conditions 78 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: and it's low on oil and the engine runs out 79 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: of oil while you're driving it, you gotta gotta know, 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: you you know, if a car, if it's a car 81 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: you've never seen. I look at fluid levels before I 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: take something out. Trans fluid was good in this cap 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: had a bit of a stank to it though. Um 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: kind of reminded me from that scene in Hollywood Nice 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: where it's got a little bit of whang in it, 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: because it had a real sharp odor to it that 87 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: just it wasn't burnt, but you could tell that it 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: was old trans fluid. It really was. So I went 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: out on the road test and I couldn't get it 90 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: to act up. This this car ran absolutely fine. It 91 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. If if you put me in 92 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: this car, you know, I always look at it. If 93 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: you put me in the car, well, I noticed the problem. 94 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: Does it take something special? You know, do I have 95 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: to do? I have to you know, stand on my head, 96 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: spitwooden nickels and rub my belly button counter clockwise, you know, 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: chanting something. But no, you know, this car, just this 98 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: car road great. I went back to the shop. I 99 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: thought about it. Texted Sebastian. We text now, and he 100 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: start did to describe a condition by which it was 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: a little more precise. It's it's it's gotta be. It 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: starts at thirty five and forty miles an hour. It 103 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: seems to be. This is somewhere, it's somewhere in that 104 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: in that range of what's happening happens. So I went 105 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: back out on the road and I started to drive differently. 106 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: You know, I tend to have a little I'm not 107 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: saying I've got a heavy foot, but I just I 108 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: drive like me. So I started to drive differently. I've 109 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: got a couple of different I got a couple of 110 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: different personalities in me, and I brought out the little 111 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: old lady personality, you know, the little light on the foot, 112 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, easy on the gas. Um, you know, can 113 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: I hang the car at thirty five and get anything 114 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: weird to happen? And I did. All of a sudden, 115 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: this car, you know, it's very timely for a Halloween show, 116 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, this car acted like it 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: was haunted. At thirty five miles an hour, this car 118 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: felt like it was running over a washboard road. Driving 119 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: down the road. I bet that's a converter. I bet 120 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: we're going into lock up or overdrive, whatever we want 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 1: to call it on this particular car. Tap the brake, pedal, 122 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: it stops. Hey, look at that, it's fixed. You just 123 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: gotta ride the break. Um. No, in reality, I knew 124 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: what to do. I went back and uh, you know, 125 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: I took another whiff of that trans fluid, and I 126 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: made my decision. I called up Sebastian, I said, I 127 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: put the trans fluid in this car has never been changed. 128 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, how did you know that? And I said, well, 129 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: I said number one, it's it's just by the way 130 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: it smells. You know, it had It wasn't dark, it 131 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: wasn't super dirty in that sense, but you know, it 132 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: had a It had a It didn't have suppleness to it. 133 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: It didn't have a good feel, you know, old school mechanics, 134 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: thumb and fore finger rubbing it. Just you know, how 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: does it feel? Does it feel good? Feeling tells you 136 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: a lot. I think nothing scientific about it other than 137 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: just common sense and you know your gibbs gut instinct. 138 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: He said, no, it's original trans fluid. I said, well, 139 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna change the trans 140 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: fluid twice. We're gonna run three quarts through, We're gonna 141 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: drain it out, rub three quarts through it, and then 142 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: fill it up and add four courts to it or 143 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: whatever it takes to fill it up. And then you're 144 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: gonna drive the car and you may find that the 145 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: problem goes away. Because I've had this experience with Honda. 146 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: I've had this experience with Toyota, specifically those two car 147 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: lines where the fluid gets worn out, their additive package there, 148 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: their viscosity, their suppleness, whatever you want to refer to 149 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: it as they just it just gets worn out. It 150 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: just gets worn flat. I said, here's the dangers, all right. 151 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: Number one, we're putting fresh trans fluid into an automatic 152 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: transmission that may ultimately cause its failure. And his response 153 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: was correct. He said, well, it's already failed. I said, exactly. 154 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: I said, We're gonna put fresh trans fluid in this 155 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: vehicle and it may not fix anything, and it may 156 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: not fail. It just maybe that we spent you know, 157 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: double what we would normally do on a trans service, 158 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: a couple of three four llars whatever it was, and 159 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: we'll end up with the same problem and you still 160 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: have to put a transmission in it. He said, no 161 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: worse off than I am right now, except for a 162 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: few hundred bucks. I said, agreed. I said, And the 163 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: best part is it may fix it. So instead of 164 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: spending five thousand on a transmission, you're gonna spend three 165 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: to four hundred on the transmission. And he said, and 166 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: there it is. You know, it's nice working with Sebastian. 167 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: He got it, and he did get it because we 168 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: serviced it. I did just what I said I was 169 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna do. And um, as far as last as that 170 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: was three days before Friday. As a Friday afternoon, I 171 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: texted him the vehicle was operating fine, he had no 172 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: problems with it, and uh, it's doing what it's supposed 173 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: to do. And he was very, very happy. And I 174 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: think the moral to the story becomes is, you know, 175 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: maintenance doesn't guarantee you longevity, all right, it doesn't. Listen, 176 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, we see a lot of transmissions fail at 177 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: the hundred and fifty thousand mile mark. My daughter's escaped 178 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: transfluid with service on a regular basis, it's still failed 179 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: at a buck fifty. But the odds are in your favor. 180 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: It seems. It seems that doing maintenance gives you you 181 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: that more reliability, more reliable, more dependable vehicle because you 182 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: know what's been done and it it will cut down 183 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: your long term cost of operation. Yes, you know what. 184 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: It can be said that anything can fail at any 185 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: given time. That's understood. Listen. You can take the best 186 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: care you can of your house and your roof, and 187 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: the roof could buckle in for no reason anything is possible. 188 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: It cuts down the odds, though, and in this day 189 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: and age when automobiles are just skyrocketing out of control 190 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: in terms of what they're costing, never mind if you 191 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: can even find one, which is a unique trick unto itself, 192 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: and then you have to deal with it's a seller's 193 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: market right now, which makes dealing or trying to get 194 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: deals on a new vehicle very difficult at best. That 195 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: you want to take care of what you got. Taking 196 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: care of what you got is really, you know, the 197 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: better way to do things, um, you know, long term, 198 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: long term. So just the case of the chattering Honda, Hey, 199 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: what do you know? We saved him five grand? How bad? 200 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: How bad could that be? Right? It worked out really well. 201 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: So let's pull over, take a pause. When we come back, 202 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna say a load of tom. I can say 203 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: a load of tom. Now, Mr Ray, did you have 204 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: a good week? He doesn't know which button to push. 205 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: As soon as they find the button. As soon as 206 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: you find that, you're a you're a big time DJ. Now, 207 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I hear my spies tell me is this company? Yeah? Yeah, 208 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing the night shift on one of the stations 209 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: in the Elko, Nevada, the sister station, the k b 210 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: g Z that we're on out there. Yeah, they're gonna 211 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: put your fix. Are they gonna put your face on 212 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the billboard too? Well? Probably not, because I have a 213 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: great face for radio, because you know we could if 214 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: they put the two of us side by side. Boy, 215 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: think of the Halloween spectacular. That would be so my gosh. 216 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, I see you you Warrior Mechanics costume 217 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: today and that mask is absolutely horrendous. That's your face. 218 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to look like a human being? Um is 219 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: what this looks? Well? I just you know the kind 220 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: of the week I had, Tom, I'm telling you it was. 221 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: It was a week, it really was. We Uh, we 222 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: did everything we were supposed to do. We fixed everything 223 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: we were supposed to fix. We solved all the problems 224 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: we're supposed to solve, and um, you know what, I 225 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: came home up right and breathing, and I was very 226 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: happy to do that. So just a great way to 227 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: end the week. Let's pull over, take a pause. When 228 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna open up the phone lines 229 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: which are backed up, and uh, we've got a couple 230 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: of special dedications we want to send out as well. 231 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm Ron, Nandie in the Car Doctor. We'll return right 232 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: after this. Have what's more fun than listening to Ron 233 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: and Nady in the Car Doctor and getting that car fixed? Right? 234 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero zero zero. Give Ron a call? 235 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Hey, let's uh, you know, every 236 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: once in a while we've got a great email from people. 237 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: And you know, part of the joy in doing this 238 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: show these past thirty plus years is I get to 239 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: talk to you guys. You know, it's I can be 240 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: having a really bad day at the shop and and 241 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: they happen all right, and you know, it wears on you, 242 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: it really does it. It It just takes you down 243 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: to a point that you say, why am I doing this? 244 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's tough, it's it's getting tougher two 245 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: being in small business. But then I get to come 246 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: home and I get to think about it, and I 247 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: opened up my email pile, and uh usually after supper 248 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there going through and I get emails 249 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: like this, and um, you know, if you recall, we 250 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: we were giving away a couple of things. We had 251 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: a couple of books we were uh looking to give away. 252 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: We had a book Porsche of the seventy fifth anniversary. UM, 253 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: we had a book seventy plus years of Corvette, and 254 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: we had a new one to um hot Rod Magazine, 255 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: the seventy plus years of hot Rod Magazine. And I 256 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: found homeless for all of them, and I found really 257 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: great homes for them. But it's the Corvette book I 258 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: want to talk about right now. I want to put 259 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: some time into that. You know, Linda from Tucson, Arizona 260 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: wrote in and she said, hey, Ron, and listen to 261 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: your show every Saturday. I heard you mentioned this morning 262 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: about a Corvette book that you were planning to give away. 263 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: Is there any way I can put my name in 264 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: for that book? My husband would love to have it. 265 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: We've had Corvettes for many years. He's a retired Arizona 266 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: State Trooper. If I can get the book with your autogram, 267 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: if it please run, that would be awesome. Thank you 268 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: so much, And you know it was my pleasure, it 269 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: really was. I've got to tell you, UM, you know 270 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't think we give well, I know we don't. 271 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I don't think we don't give enough 272 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: credit to those first responders, to those people that we 273 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: put in harm's way, whether they're you know, the police, 274 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: the fire department, the e m t S, the military, 275 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: the people that are keeping us safe every day out 276 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: there on the job. And what I thought about the 277 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: most in reading Linda's email is I don't give the 278 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: wives credit enough either, Okay, because Linda said that she 279 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, we have had Corvettes for many years. That's 280 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: a me and her thing, right, They've been together as 281 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: as husband and wife for many years, and um, you 282 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: know they're they're into Corvettes, and I thought this would 283 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: be a great way they could sit down and you know, 284 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: maybe during the I don't know if they get cold 285 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: winter months in in Arizona, but it must be colder 286 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: than it is during the summer, so they can sit 287 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: on the couch and in a in a quiet evening 288 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: and maybe go through the book because it's got some 289 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: great color pictures of Corvette through the years. And Linda, 290 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: I just want to say that I'm sending this out 291 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: there to the two of you. UM. I brought a 292 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: little dedication in the front which I want to vulge here, 293 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: but that's for you and Marty. Um. You know, Marty's 294 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: retired Arizona State Trooper, and we appreciate here's years of service. 295 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: And Linda, we appreciate your years of waiting for him 296 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: to come home, hoping that he does come home. So 297 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: we know how tough that can be. So God bless 298 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: and be safe. Enjoy the book. Let's uh, let's go 299 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: over to the phone. And now let's go over to 300 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Tim and Illinois. Tim, Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 301 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: Fourteen Hyundai? What can I do for you? What do 302 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: we got? Okay? The I have a Hyundai Tucson g 303 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: l as. It's my daughter in law's car, has approbately 304 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: a hundred hundred thousand miles on it, and it recently 305 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: started setting a P zero four or five five code. Okay. 306 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: I looked through around on the internet and I found 307 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: the vapor canister purge valve was also often listed as 308 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: something that that cause that I replaced that. UM did 309 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: not find any change. I also replaced the gas cap. 310 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: I noticed the gas cap didn't click, UM, and then 311 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: we bought a new one. It does click, but that 312 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: also did not affect it. UM. I'm I don't have 313 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: a smoke machine, so I didn't know where else to go. 314 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: Is for how to diagnosis. Uh. Typically the code shows 315 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: up like if we cleared the code, it takes a 316 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: couple of days of driving, um, and she has like 317 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: an hour long one way commute, so it's quite a 318 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: few miles before it actually resets that code. Tail. Let 319 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Do you live in a 320 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: house or an apartment house? Okay? You got a front 321 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: door and back door? Yep. Front door is the gas 322 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: tank area, all right. The backdoor is the engine all right. 323 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: So you got a front door, you got a back door. 324 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: If you want to let air flow through the house, 325 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: you open up the front door, you open up the 326 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: back door, right, Yeah, you gotta get air flow, all right. 327 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: So so my understanding isn't correct me. If I'm wrong, 328 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: you change the back door, you change the purge valve, 329 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: the piece at the engine correct, that's all right. You've 330 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: also got to deal with the front door. You've got 331 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: to deal with the piece back at the tank or 332 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: what we call the canister vent, all right. Now, the 333 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: canister vent is normally open. The canister vent valve allows 334 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: fresh air to come into the system. It cycles through 335 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: a carbon canister, all right, and as it filters air out, 336 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: it will also prevent fumes from going out. It's filtered 337 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: through the canister, all right, and then at the right moment, 338 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: they'll open up the back door. They'll open up the 339 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: purge valve and draw fresh air through the system, scavenge 340 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: the tank, take fumes out, take fumes out of the canister, 341 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: all right, and recycle it through the engine and allow 342 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: it to burn. Now, do you still have the old 343 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: back door? Do you still have the old canister perge valve? Oh? Yeah? 344 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Is that? Can you blow through it? Did you try 345 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: blowing through it? I did not try blowing through it. 346 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: The one thing I did do was when the CANNIS, 347 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: when it was on the vehicle, I had I removed 348 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: the hose, plugged the hose, put my thumb over the 349 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: the report that was going to the um engine the 350 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: engine side, and it did not it was or not 351 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: the engine side, the tank side. It was not sucking. Well, 352 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get suction off the off the tank side. 353 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, No, I mean off the engine side. Okay. 354 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: I thought the tank side would with the engine. I 355 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: thought it would switch to that. No, here's here's the deal, right, 356 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: let's go back to the house. Got a front door, 357 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: you got a back door. All right. If you open 358 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: the back door, if you open the purge valve at 359 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: the engine and you don't open the front door, you're 360 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: gonna get airflow through the system. You're gonna get air 361 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: through the house. Now. So I'll tell you what, Sit tight, Tim, 362 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: Let me come back to you. Let me pull over. 363 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Take this pause. When we return, we'll continue this story. 364 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm running aiding the Car Doctor at five zero zero. 365 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: We're coming back right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back, 366 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: running name of the car Doctor. A quick shout out 367 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: to the gang over across fit Bis in Midland Park, 368 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey. They kind of found out what I do 369 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: this week, and um, they think I'm on the radio 370 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: and guess what, they're right. So a big shout out 371 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: to five AM and everybody that works out together with 372 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: me as so we all try to stay in shape 373 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: and get in shape. So back to Tim, Tim Illinois, 374 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: you're there, sir, Hey, Ron I did uh? My wife 375 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: brought me that piece. I cannot blow through it. Okay 376 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: the piece you chain, yeah, Okay, that's good. That's what 377 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. It's a it's normally closed. The 378 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: canister purge valve. The piece at the engine is normally closed. 379 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: It's energized open. Do you have a house fan, tim, Yeah, okay, 380 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: if you know is it an attic fan what we 381 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: call an attic fan here in New Jersey where you 382 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: turn it on, it's upstairs. And if you turn it 383 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: on and to pull air out of the house. No, 384 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't really have one of those, but I know 385 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: what I'm familiar with what you're talking about. If you 386 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: if you put a house fan in the doorway and 387 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: you didn't have the door open, how much air is 388 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: it gonna pull out? Nothing? Right? So you know the 389 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: house fans the engine, all right. The house fan sits 390 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: by the back door. And when you want to pull 391 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: air or fumes out of the gas tank, out of 392 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: the trucoal canister, you open the front door, you open 393 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 1: the back door, and you have air flow. Because if 394 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: you just open up, if you just open up the 395 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: back door, if you open up that purge, you're not 396 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: going to get flow like you should. You need to 397 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: have air in air out right, Okay, So normally an 398 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: event valve is normally open, and if purge valve is 399 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: normally closed, they leave the vent open. They closed, they 400 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: opened the purge. You've got flow. Now when the system 401 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: when they want to check the system for integrity, the 402 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: purge is already closed. Okay, they closed the vent. They 403 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: opened the purge, and the engine or the house fan 404 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: pulls vacuum on the system and they look to see 405 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: what sort of results they get by looking at something 406 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: called the FTP fuel tank pressure sensor. Alright. A fuel 407 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: tank pressure sensor is a very precise sensor. It's on 408 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: the gas tank, typically zero to five volts, and it 409 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: will read state of change of how if the system 410 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: is under a vacuum or is it moving towards a 411 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: vacuum at what consistent rate. That's how they know these things. 412 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: So understanding this might help you, I mean so far 413 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: you know what. I know what you're trying to do, 414 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: but you just don't have the tooling for it. But 415 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: at this point, you've changed the back door, you've changed 416 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: the purge, you've changed the gas cap, all right, which 417 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: is which is an extension of the front door, and 418 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: extension of the vent valve. All right, you might want 419 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: to take a look at the vent valve. The vent 420 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: valve on this car is a little tough to get 421 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: to though, it sits down by the top of the 422 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: fuel tank, and it's kind of in an awkward spot. 423 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: But at this stage of the game, you know if 424 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: you're gonna if you're gonna change parts, change the vent 425 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: valve to why not unless you can get your hands 426 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: on a small machine and and and and check for leaks, 427 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: which would be the next step. Yeah, do I have 428 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: to take a wheel off or a fender line or 429 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: anything to get to that? Likely? Yes, yes, up in 430 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: the air. It's something you need to do. It's easiest 431 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: done up in the air on the lift alright. Not 432 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: easy to get two otherwise, all right, But yeah, the wheel, 433 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: I believe the wheel, the fender liner has to come out. 434 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: It's usually in the driver's side corner, driver's side rear, 435 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: on the driver's side rear tire. It's going to be 436 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: in that front corner of the tank by the canister. 437 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: So locate the canister and you'll see it. Now. The 438 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: other thing you can do is get a wiring diagram 439 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: and look at the colors of the wires that are 440 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: going to the vent valve. An idea that way, and 441 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: that's always a great way on some of these cars 442 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: to I D what you know which valve are you're chasing, 443 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: not this particular one. But Honda's, for example, have two 444 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: sorts of vent valves at the back of the vehicle, 445 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: and if you want to know which one is which, 446 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: we always look at wire color to determine. And you know, 447 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody calls it. Every manufacturer calls 448 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: event vulve something different, in a perge veil something different. 449 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: To me, it's just the front door and a back door. 450 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: That's that's all they are. They have all these fancy 451 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: names for them, but they all do the same thing. 452 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: So my conversation with you about putting air through the 453 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: house is just that's the theory of it. If you 454 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: understand the theory, now you know what you're trying to 455 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: do makes sense. Yeah. Could it also be that this 456 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: fuel tank pressure sensor is bad or I would I 457 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: would think, no, No, they fail. Listen. They do a 458 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: lot of things weird, but you should get a precise 459 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 1: code for measurement on that, and you're not getting that. 460 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: You're getting you're getting a large evap leak full all right, 461 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: and listen. This could be something as simple as a 462 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: seam link around a seam leak around the gas tank. 463 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: This could be a leaking fuel tank that you may 464 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: not get fuel smell from, but you could just have 465 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: a leak that it doesn't hold vacuum. Normal vacuum. We 466 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, zero to twelve inches, Well, you 467 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: know one inch of vacuum is now broken down into 468 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: sub levels. Below that we get into inches of water. 469 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's I think it's one inch of 470 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: vacuum is equal to twelve inches of water. Don't hold 471 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: me to that. I haven't looked at number up in 472 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: a while. But it's a very precise measurement. They actually 473 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: they actually get down to the level of a pimple 474 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: on the flies behind. If you want to understand what 475 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, all right, when you're looking at an FTP center, 476 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: they measured so precisely. A tenth of a vault change 477 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: in an FTP is like saying a mile is a 478 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: short jog. That makes sense absolutely. So you know you 479 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: focused on the purge, You focused on the system integrity. 480 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: You've done a cap brother, If we're gonna shotgun parts, 481 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: why don't we just go put event valve in it 482 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: and then you'll know when it's still not fixed. Now 483 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: you gotta get a smoke machine to get somebody to 484 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: diagnose it. But that's the theory on how it works. 485 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: All right, very much, You're very welcome, Tim, Good luck 486 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: to you. Um. Yeah, listen, if we're gonna if we 487 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: if we're gonna throw parts at it, guys, Um, let's 488 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: just go all the way. If we're not going to 489 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: diagnose anything, which is I understand why it's done, but 490 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: understand that it kind of backs you into a corner. 491 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: And if we're gonna do this, let's just, you know, 492 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: let's understand how the system works. And that's my whole 493 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: point from why I'm bringing this up. Let's go to 494 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Jack in Wisconsin eighteen GMC and some transmission issues. Jack, 495 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: thanks for waiting there so patiently. How can I help 496 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: you today run in aning at your services? Yeah? Thanks? 497 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: Ron Um. Well, I've had an issue started last year 498 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: with my transmission shotteren Um. You know when I'm driving 499 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: down the road. When I first had it, I was 500 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: way up north by Michigan and and uh my wheelbarding 501 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: was going out. But it got it diagnosed that it 502 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: was a transmission shuttering and in uh shifting into higher 503 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: gears always uh so did my research change the fluid 504 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: that come to find out that changing the fluid there 505 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: might be poisture and the fluid um. And I flushed 506 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: out the cooler and the tork converter with extra fluid 507 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: I put in there and flushed it all out. Uh 508 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: started to run in great. So it runs good now 509 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: I don't have that shutter anymore. But my main question 510 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: is UM doesn't hurt your transmission? And is it okay 511 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: to down shift when you're coming to down a hill 512 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: or to a stop sign? Pulling a trailer to help 513 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: you break UM? I do that with my wife's car 514 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: and my car when I'm on the highway, to down 515 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: shift instead of stepping on the brake a lot. Is 516 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: that bad for the transmissions nowadays? I'll tell you what 517 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: can you sit? Let me pull over, take a pause. 518 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: When I come back, I'll have the answer for you 519 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: and everybody else. Don't go away, Jack, I'll run any 520 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: of the car doctor. I'll return right after this. Welcome back, 521 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: name of the the car doctor. Zero Back to Jack in Wisconsin. Jack, 522 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: you're still there, sir, yeah, yeah, So the question was 523 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: you know? And and if I'm describing this wrong, please 524 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: say that you're you're driving along and when you're approaching 525 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: a stop you're using the trans to down shift to 526 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: slow the vehicle down. Fair statement? Or did I miss something? Okay? 527 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes when I'm driving with my wife, I call it 528 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: coming in hot. You know, well, I think the question 529 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: here is what's cheaper breaks or a transmission? Of course 530 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: the brakes right, you know, transmission wasn't meant to downshift, 531 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: not a modern transmission anyway, and not a transmission that's 532 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: not been modified, not my opinion. If you're towing a 533 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: trailer and you know you're going uphill and you want 534 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: to go slow and you want to keep it in 535 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: second gear and make a gradual climb, great, But you've 536 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 1: got to think about is every time you're pulling up 537 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: to that stop sign, if you're if you're deciding went 538 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: to down shift and you're feeling it, you know, if 539 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: it kind of lurches you forward a little bit, that's 540 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: a shock to the system. Over time, that shock is 541 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: gonna translate down to gee, what did I wear out? 542 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: To you joint in my neighbor who has the same vehicle, 543 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: doesn't right? Right? Makes sense? Or you know why did 544 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: why Why did I? Why did I tear up the 545 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: planetary cluster and transmission, and my neighbor didn't. So you know, listen, 546 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the story about I was coming out 547 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: of a house on a street one day and this 548 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: is gosh, it's gotta be twenty years since I did this. 549 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: And I was in which truck was I in? I 550 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: was in the ninety one, So that's three trucks ago. Okay, 551 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: Um that was a while ago, and um it was 552 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: it had. I was at someone's house for something, we 553 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: had a meeting or something. I can't remember exactly what, 554 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: and I came out and it was a sheet of 555 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: ice and I didn't realize it was a sheet of ice. 556 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: And as I approached to stop sign, I stepped on 557 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: the brakes and I'm heading for what we used to 558 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: call dead Man's Hill, right, you know, because it went 559 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: straight down for a quarter mile and emptied out onto 560 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: the freeway. It was one of those deals, all right. 561 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: So I'm just sliding on ice. The wheels are stopped, 562 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: and I'm just moving forward. So I made I made 563 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: the fatal well, and it wasn't fatal, but I made 564 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: the decision at that time. I put it in reverse 565 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: while I was moving forward. At thirty miles an hour, 566 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: and I just stepped on the gas and I finally 567 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was a heck of a jolt to 568 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: the system because it was, you know, let's let's let's 569 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: go backwards real quick at the last minute, and I 570 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: stopped just in the nick of time before I made 571 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: it out onto the main drag where all the traffic was. 572 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: Because for whatever reason, this road was a sheet of 573 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: ice and the rest of the roads were blacktop. It 574 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: was kind of strange, um, just the way it was 575 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: shaded against the mountain and stuff. So, yeah, it happens. Um. 576 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: I never forgot that day. But you know, yeah, not 577 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: something you want to do, all right, I think I 578 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: think just breaking um in a panic situation, sure, different conversation, 579 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: but on a daily basis, you know, I think if 580 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: you want to do that, buy yourself a hot rod 581 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: with a stick. I think you'd be hand right. So, 582 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, you see it with the electronics nowadays, the 583 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: down shift when you're going downhills automatically, like in my 584 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: new two thousand twenty Blazer at down shifts, when you 585 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: got in in cruise control at down shifts. You know, 586 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: I just thought maybe it might be okay, now to 587 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: do that with the vehicle. Well, but the thing is, 588 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: if you could match what the vehicle does at the 589 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: at that exact same speed and and at that exact 590 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: same moment, the differences. So let's just let's just make 591 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: an assumption. And this is an assumption. I don't know 592 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: this for a fact, but under you know, I try 593 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: to understand how engineers thinking, how car companies think that 594 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: moment when they when the programmer writes and says, hey, 595 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, when Jack's doing thirty five mile an hour 596 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: cruising down the road, and you know, we see an 597 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: opportunity for to downshift the trans because we're anticipating him 598 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: accelerating because we saw his foot leave the gas pedal, 599 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: or we saw it come off the break, or we 600 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: saw something change in the vehicle. And now it says 601 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: down shift. It's already changing fuel curve, it's already changing 602 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: pressure control inside the transmission. It's already making changes to 603 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: accommodate that change of speed or change of gear safely. 604 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: All right, It's all the stuff that goes on behind 605 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: the scenes. There's all kinds of pro gramming that went 606 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: into that. When Jack does it, it's bang it's like, 607 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: brace yourself. This won't feel good. Bang right? Um you 608 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: know so yeah, you know what, Like I said, get 609 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: yourself a four speed hot rod. You'll feel better. So okay, okay, kiddo, 610 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: you'd be well, thank you. I appreciate the call. You're 611 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: very welcome. Sirus. Yeah, listen, I you know what, there's 612 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: there's moments when you have to throw it in reverse. 613 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: I often think of that. I'm gonna date myself again. 614 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: Who remembers PT one on nine? Come on, put your 615 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: hands up, Tom, put your hand up. You're a PT 616 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: one on nine with President Kennedy. That movie, right. I 617 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: still remember when he's pulling into the dock and he 618 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: tells the guy full speed reverse and the boat conks 619 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: out and it takes out the end of the dock 620 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: when they're you know, just things from the sixties. I 621 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: remember it, you know, and that's sort of what it 622 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: was like with the truck. That's kind of where I 623 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: got the idea, and that's sort of what Jack's trying 624 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: to do. Let's put it in reverse and let's change 625 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: the gear and see if it slows the vehicle down. Yeah, 626 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: that's what they make breaks for. Hey, the car doctor 627 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: is coming back right after this. Don't go away. I'm 628 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: ronning Indian states what I'm back ran name the car doctor. 629 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't know which highway I'm on. I uh, sometimes 630 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: I question it. You know, I had a really good 631 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: funny story here. Here it is hey Ron fun thing here, 632 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: and I'm leaving some names blank. The names have been changed. 633 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: This is like dragnet, right. The names have been changed 634 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: to protect the innocent. And this comes to us from 635 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: a radio station that should remain anonymous. Hey Ron fun 636 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: thing here in blank. I have a host who loves 637 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: prius Is, and you annoy him with well, I don't 638 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: know when you talk about hybrids and the mathematics of 639 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: it all, I'm not sure why that's a bad thing. 640 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't listen for the record. I like I like hybrids. 641 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: I think hybrids are the answer, and that may shock 642 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: some of you, but I thought I've stated that more 643 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: than once that I think hybrids are part of the solution. 644 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 1: I think a combination of of of hybrid and internal 645 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: combustion engines. I think that's a no brainer. And my 646 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: mystery serious writer writes it goes that not not that 647 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm against dvs Winn and if the technology gets there. 648 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: But I know he gets annoyed with your perspective, I 649 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: kind of find the funny be well, you know, listen, 650 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to clear the year. That's why I mentioned 651 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: this story, not to annoy anybody. You know, if I'm 652 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: annoying somebody, my apology, that's never my intention. Well maybe 653 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: it is sometimes, but you know what, Well I was 654 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: gonna say, I probably annoyed Tom a lot, but that's 655 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: because I'm better looking. Um, you know, it's more a 656 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: case of these are the numbers. It's got to make sense. 657 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: You know, I fixed too many vehicles on a weekly 658 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: basis that you know, we get a lot of well 659 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: the other guy tried to fix it and couldn't fix 660 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: it and he kept throwing parts at it, or the 661 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: guy that said, you know what needed a transmission, and 662 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: it didn't need a transmission in my world. And here's 663 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: an absolute I can guarantee you in my world, two 664 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: and two makes four every time, every time it has 665 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: to because of what I'm doing. If if I'm in 666 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: a position where somebody tells me too and two is seven, 667 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: then I gotta call it like I see it, because 668 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: that's part of who I am. I mean, you can't 669 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: change that. And if you're in a position we're two 670 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: and two make seven and you agree to it, you 671 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: gotta look at that. You gotta say, what are you 672 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: looking for? You know? Yeah? Do I think electric vehicles 673 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: are the answer? Yes? When do I think it's gonna happen? 674 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure because I don't think the technology is 675 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: anywhere near that. I keep hoping somebody's going to invent 676 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: something different, but I don't know when that's gonna happen. 677 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: In the meantime, is there something we can do stop gap? Yeah, 678 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: let's increase the use of hybrid, Let's make delivery vehicles electric, 679 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: let's mandate that, let's you know, continue to move forward. 680 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: But right now, oh god, I can tell you so 681 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: many stories. Right now, we can't even get technicians working 682 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: on internal combustion engines trained enough to speed in a 683 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: lot of cases. How are we gonna do with e V? 684 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 1: But for the host that I'm annoying, Sorry I don't 685 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: mean to, but you know, look at the math, and 686 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: then for the reality of it. I like hybrids, not 687 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: thrilled with e vs until the next time. I'm not 688 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: a nying of the car doctor reminding each and every 689 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: one of you. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're placeless. See 690 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: you