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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast starts now. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the League Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Jansas, and I'm joined by a room filled

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Speaker 1: with some heroes, Greg Rosenthal and Chris Westling. What up, boys,

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Speaker 1: what is happening? No, Mark Sessler, he's on vacation, but

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get him on the phone. A little later.

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Speaker 1: We are in the mock studio, more like mockery studio.

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Speaker 1: They've now dropped the temperature down. I'm thinking it's about

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Speaker 1: forty degrees in here, and I'm not even joking. I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing a hooded sweatshirt hood over my ears. West is

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Speaker 1: literally shivering like a dog that just got out of

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Speaker 1: a tub in the middle of winter. Greg looks fairly comfortable. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is how you know that Dan Helly, the host

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Speaker 1: of Total Access, is truly a warrior and a badass

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Speaker 1: that he braves these conditions every day to produce such

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Speaker 1: a fine television program. Yeah. People that maybe are not

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Speaker 1: they usually cool down a studio because we are a

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Speaker 1: part of the studio right now where they do Total

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Speaker 1: Access and other NFL programming. They cool those studios way down.

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Speaker 1: I think it has something to do with the lights

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Speaker 1: and things of that nature. They have to keep it cold.

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Speaker 1: So we are suffering for our craft. But who cares

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Speaker 1: because guess what great show today? Big show, big show,

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Speaker 1: what could be bigger? Today is really the start of

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Speaker 1: our soft time. I mean this is we should enjoy

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Speaker 1: this time mentally. You got about a month to get

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Speaker 1: ready for actual football. This is the one month of

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Speaker 1: the year it's just quiet in the NFL dark. The

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Speaker 1: off season program is over for all thirty two teams, UH,

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Speaker 1: coaches and players, and everyone is recharging before training camp

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Speaker 1: begins at the end of next month. But we will

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Speaker 1: take you through all the latest news that did crop

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Speaker 1: up over the weekend. We're also going to UH check

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Speaker 1: back in on our making the Leap series UH and

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Speaker 1: get into two more players from that list. We will

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Speaker 1: dip into the mail bag, folks. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you saw on the written portion of the Around the

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Speaker 1: League Empire UM. I wrote our latest mail bag on Friday,

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Speaker 1: hit that as well. But TD not behind the glass.

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Speaker 1: The great man Nigeria looking looking very good in the

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Speaker 1: World Cup to get through to the next round. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, buddy, doing good guys. Just so you know,

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Speaker 1: we're all behind the glass in the studio, you know

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Speaker 1: stage glass. It is pretty cool. The studio could definitely

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Speaker 1: use some of the Definitely we're gonna warm it up

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Speaker 1: with our hot takes. We should get one of those

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Speaker 1: that was good. We should get one of those Dura

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Speaker 1: flame logs. I find them quite practical. If we could

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Speaker 1: gut wrenching draw for the US. It was. Let me

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Speaker 1: It's a cruel sport. You know, things you know, you

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Speaker 1: According to NFL Media's Albert Brier, the goals for Gronkowski

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Speaker 1: they're they're gonna it's gonna be just saying how they

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Speaker 1: use them in the passing game. Because he's not a

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Speaker 1: deep threat. I've seen you write in the Obstacles under

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Speaker 1: the in the Making the Leap piece, which you could

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Speaker 1: find at NFL dot com. Backslash making the Leap. That's

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Speaker 1: what they call vanity U R L in the business.

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Speaker 1: You know. One of our Twitter followers pointed out to

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Speaker 1: me that it's not a backslash. I always say backslash.

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Speaker 1: He just says it's a slash. I guess that's true.

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Speaker 1: I have no way to fact check that, but let's

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Speaker 1: get it together. Wait, so does that mean it's a

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Speaker 1: forward slash? I guess I don't know. Whatever society anyway,

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Speaker 1: you have no idea. But he pointed out and it

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Speaker 1: sounded like he knew what he was talking about. So

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Speaker 1: Sizzler mentions that, you know, Earth's is blocking has come

443
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Speaker 1: into question during his rookie season. It's something that needs

444
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Speaker 1: to be improved. I was thinking maybe in our NFL

445
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Speaker 1: offseason Tropes file, we might have to add any young

446
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Speaker 1: pass catching tight end. It's always you'll see the story that, oh,

447
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: he's worked a lot on his blocking and he's gotten stronger.

448
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Speaker 1: That's a major trope, and that's what we're seeing with

449
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Speaker 1: Earth's too. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I I think

450
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Speaker 1: though that he himself said there was something that he

451
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Speaker 1: knew was an issue coming into the league. Kelly fell

452
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Speaker 1: in love with him for his pass catching ability because

453
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Speaker 1: he he when he was at Stanford Fried, Oregon kept

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Speaker 1: him out of the National Title game with an eleven

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Speaker 1: catch game maybe something the yards in a pretty controversial

456
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Speaker 1: touchdown to the end. It was actually a hundred and

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Speaker 1: six yards. But that's cool. I'll just fix your fixure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again. You're in front of the computer. I'm

459
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Speaker 1: not Mark. Yeah. Was Do you think his development is

460
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons they were able to let de

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Speaker 1: Sean Jackson go? That's interesting. I don't. I look at

462
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Speaker 1: the hole de Sean jacks and removal as something pretty

463
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Speaker 1: specific to two Sean Jackson from the neck up in

464
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Speaker 1: terms of how Kelly really wanted to build that locker room.

465
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Speaker 1: But I think it eases it for sure. He can

466
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Speaker 1: mentioned Hurts by name more than once whenever he was

467
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Speaker 1: asked who fills the void. I do think that they

468
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Speaker 1: wanted a guy that from the tight end position can

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Speaker 1: make plays, and that's that's what I saw in him

470
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Speaker 1: down the stress. For sure, the opportunity is there. They

471
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Speaker 1: don't have a number one receiver people want to make

472
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin and I mean, he's not that guy, so

473
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to spread it around. It could be

474
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Speaker 1: chaotic waters for the defenses facing the Eagles this year,

475
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Speaker 1: to use Assessler's chaotic rivers. Excuse me? All right, Well

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Speaker 1: that's it then, you know I sort of ran on

477
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Speaker 1: a gas there at the end. I have nothing more

478
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Speaker 1: to tell you about anything. God laid by the sea

479
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Speaker 1: mark or wander into the wilderness, you know, do a

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Speaker 1: do Assessler thing. Just disconnect and we will hold this

481
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Speaker 1: thing down and we won't know you anymore. And that's

482
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Speaker 1: a promise. How about see you in about a week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. So we have some breaking news. I'm just

484
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Speaker 1: gonna go off the script right now, and it's not

485
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Speaker 1: the biggest news ever, but more bad news for the

486
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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins offensive line and Mike Pouncey expected to miss

487
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Speaker 1: at least the next three months with hip surgery. So

488
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Speaker 1: we talked last show, Uh that the Dolphins offensive line,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, Bill Laser is really intrigued and thinks that

490
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Speaker 1: will be the turnaround story there and now here their

491
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Speaker 1: center and kind of their leader of that group. Supposedly,

492
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Speaker 1: if it they're saying at least three months. That usually

493
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Speaker 1: means more than three months. They picked up his fifth

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Speaker 1: year option, right, they did, so. I wonder if this

495
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Speaker 1: is something that happened during the minicamp season or something

496
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Speaker 1: that had been lingering. It would be odd to have

497
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Speaker 1: hip surgery in late June if it was already an

498
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Speaker 1: issue much. I would have to think it as to

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Speaker 1: be something that came up recently. Yeah, because you want

500
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Speaker 1: to get that out of the way, and it's not

501
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Speaker 1: a huge, huge breaking news, but this is a team

502
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Speaker 1: that had major questions on the offensive line already. Pouncey,

503
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Speaker 1: who has had a pretty rocky road of late, and

504
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Speaker 1: he's the best offensive lineman and he's probably the best

505
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Speaker 1: Pouncy on the field. Piece is all like, what that's all,

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Speaker 1: That's all I got for you. He's clenching his fist

507
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Speaker 1: right now, the Steelers center Marquis Pouncy. Um, gentlemen, let's

508
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Speaker 1: keep rolling another making leap candidate number seventeen on her Listen,

509
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Speaker 1: we like to keep you on your toes. Even though

510
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Speaker 1: we just did fifteen, we're gonna lose seventeen now and

511
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about another playmaker. This is the wide

512
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Speaker 1: receiver for the Cincinnati ben Gals. His name is Marvin Jones.

513
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Speaker 1: I know him well, and when he faced the Jets

514
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Speaker 1: last season, he had four touchdowns in a game, including

515
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Speaker 1: three and one half. I did not like that, but

516
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Speaker 1: I did like his talent. I will start, I will

517
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Speaker 1: throw it to Greg because you always want to give

518
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Speaker 1: credit for good writing, and I liked Gregg's lead here.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones is an uncolm talent trapped by a common

520
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Speaker 1: name and a wait for it, common quarterback. Yeah, knock

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Speaker 1: out the boss even uh. In a piece as glowing

522
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Speaker 1: and positive as possible. I wanted to get a shot

523
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Speaker 1: on Andy Dalton right on the first sentence, just so

524
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Speaker 1: Bengals fans know where we're at. Marvin Jones is a

525
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Speaker 1: great example that Chris Westling, the mad scientist, can change

526
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Speaker 1: his mind on a player, because you know, I was

527
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Speaker 1: kind of talking him up. We were back and forth

528
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Speaker 1: on a lot of Top twenty five guys, and once

529
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Speaker 1: Chris Wesling laid his eyes on the beautiful Game Rewind

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Speaker 1: and whatnot for Marvin Jones, he just couldn't leave him

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Speaker 1: off the list either, because this guy can do it all.

532
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: It's a true story. I actually wanted Tyler Effort to

533
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Speaker 1: be the Bengals breakout candidate. Then I went and watched

534
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: game rewind, and all Marvin Jones does is make plays. Yeah,

535
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Speaker 1: he is a guy who's totally complete as a player,

536
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Speaker 1: and that was what impressed me the most watching him.

537
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Speaker 1: He pulled off so many spectacular catches on the boundaries

538
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Speaker 1: in terms of diving and tapping his toes out of

539
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Speaker 1: bounds and catching touchdowns and jumping. And usually with a

540
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Speaker 1: guy that can pull off that many highlights, maybe he

541
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Speaker 1: doesn't have the greatest hands, or he's not the type

542
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Speaker 1: of guy that's gonna break tackles after the catch. But Jones,

543
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: even though he's a lanky receiver, he broke a lot

544
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Speaker 1: of tackles. He was very good in the open field.

545
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: They gave him the ball as a running back. He

546
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Speaker 1: made a nice play I thought against the Jets, one

547
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: of his players in that game. That wasn't a touchdown.

548
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Speaker 1: I think it was a forty fifty yard catching run

549
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: where he made about four people missed. There's just a

550
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Speaker 1: lot to like with this guy. He's number seventeen, he

551
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Speaker 1: might be number one in my heart. How about that?

552
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Speaker 1: I Well, I was gonna say I'm a little surprised.

553
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Speaker 1: I think the scientists got together and decided the actual

554
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Speaker 1: order of the making loop candidates. I would have pegged

555
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Speaker 1: him as a top ten guy if someone would ask me, Yeah,

556
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Speaker 1: sometimes we don't watch all the film until the numbers

557
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: are set. I would be totally comfortable having him higher.

558
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Speaker 1: And part of it is he's in such a nice spot. Look,

559
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Speaker 1: part of the reason he's getting open on all these

560
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Speaker 1: plays as he's playing opposite A. J. Green. Well, let's

561
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Speaker 1: talk about that West you are are may show when

562
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Speaker 1: it comes to wide receiver wide receiver duo rankings. Is

563
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Speaker 1: there a possibility by January of next year that we're

564
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Speaker 1: talking about Jones and Green as a top five wide

565
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Speaker 1: receiver duo. Absolutely, top three. We could be talking about

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Speaker 1: that by September. Now, wow, drop it. Where did you

567
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: have him entering this year in your most recent post.

568
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't even remember they on the watch list? Do

569
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Speaker 1: you remember? I don't remember. I do because I went

570
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Speaker 1: back and looked and you had them number ten the

571
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Speaker 1: last time you wrote this, So they were on the

572
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: radar already. And Jones he barely played last year. He

573
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Speaker 1: played only the snaps in the first half of the

574
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Speaker 1: year that late in the season they finally let him

575
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Speaker 1: play over Mohammed Sanu. I mean, I don't know what

576
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: they were thinking with so much plain time mar the

577
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: last four games of the season, when he finally played

578
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Speaker 1: like a starter, about seventy seventy five percent of time

579
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: he was on pace. If you pace out those four

580
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: games for about yards. It's an interesting point about ranking

581
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: him higher on the list because it's hard for a

582
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Speaker 1: number two receiver to to really have a huge breakout,

583
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: but al Sean Jeffrey did it, and really look one

584
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why Jones is so productive, Like you

585
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: pointing out a j Green, he just I think, as

586
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: the season went along, started to draw even more double

587
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: coverage than normal, and then Marvin Jones just feasted off

588
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: of that. You gotta make him pay. And the one

589
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: thing I'm worried about is that Andy Dalton's the quarterback

590
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: and that they're going to dial back the past attempts there,

591
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Speaker 1: and that that could be the one thing that gets

592
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Speaker 1: in Marvin Jones way of a monster season. Otherwise, I'm

593
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Speaker 1: thinking a thousand yards stepping all over as I was

594
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Speaker 1: just about to set you up in a beautiful way

595
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: over under time will start with receptions, and I will

596
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Speaker 1: set the number at seventy three receptions. That's a pretty

597
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: high number. I'm going under. Yeah, I'm gonna go over

598
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: just because I just talked up this guy yards. I

599
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Speaker 1: will set it at eleven yards. I'm going under on

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00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: that too. I'm going over on that. The thing I

601
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: like about him a lot of a lot of yards

602
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: per catch. So the seventy three I'm not feeling too

603
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: good about the eleven underdown like eight touchdowns ten last year,

604
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: but touchdowns can be flukey from year to year. Yeah,

605
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under for a touchdown. I'll say this

606
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: was you went under on all three, but you also

607
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: said they could be a top three wide receiver duo.

608
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: He needs to be better than that for them to

609
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: become that level, right. His thing is the Dalton factor?

610
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Am I right? I mean that they're not gonna throw

611
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: thirty two touchdowns again this year. Probably I went under

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00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: on all those, but I wasn't going way under. I

613
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: mean it could be like sixty eight receptions ten or

614
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: ten fifty yards and seven touchdowns. You know, there's still

615
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: a good season. He is a tough player to come

616
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Speaker 1: up with. A comparable. We were doing it in the office,

617
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: we kind of thought maybe a young Greg Jennings or

618
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Speaker 1: Donald Driver because there aren't many guys, kind of like

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Speaker 1: with the Randy Moss build. A little shorter than that,

620
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: for sure, but just that can make the athletic, you know,

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Speaker 1: plays that can also run. Usually those guys get tackled

622
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: and they just get thrown all over the place. All right, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: before we leave, let's hit hit up the A t

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Speaker 1: L mail Bag. Got a lot of great questions this

625
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: time around, probably the best best questions I've gotten since

626
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: we started doing the A t L mail Bag last year.

627
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: And I had some spill over. So we're gonna hit

628
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Speaker 1: a few And why don't we start? Hell, it's starting Buffalo.

629
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Speaker 1: This one I actually answered in the mail bag, but

630
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Speaker 1: I wanted to see what the the other heroes thought

631
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Speaker 1: about it. This is Michael C. Bring at Sirah Bill's

632
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Speaker 1: liking weird handle. Here's the question, clearly little confidence in

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Speaker 1: e J referring to e J manual. If he improves

634
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: the touchdowns and twelve interceptions and four thousand yards, do

635
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: Bills take the A f C East with their otherwise

636
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: A t L certified talent. That's like saying, you know,

637
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: if Geno Smith wins the m v P to the

638
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Jets win the division Like that's it's a ridiculous ceiling

639
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: that they just set there for EJ. Managed. Sure, if

640
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: he throws for four thousand yards and touchdowns, they should

641
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Speaker 1: win the four West answers. Also, I'll say that I

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Speaker 1: a with a comment that, uh, Ryan Tannehill hit those

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Speaker 1: marks last year. Uh, this just in EJ. Manual is

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Speaker 1: not Ryan Tannehill's, which isn't a good sign because Ryan

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Speaker 1: Tanneh Hall hasn't even proven himself to be much other

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Speaker 1: than Ryan Tannehill. At this point, I said, I would

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Speaker 1: eat all my softball pants if if EJ Manuel reaches

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Speaker 1: those numbers in one of the run heaviest offenses in

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Speaker 1: the league. What are the odds that EJ. Manual throws

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Speaker 1: for four thousand yards and twenty five touchdowns this year?

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Speaker 1: Let's say one out of it. I thought you're gonna

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Speaker 1: say in his career, all right, well that lets you

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Speaker 1: know we can just move on from there. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'll put it at fifteen. Wow, you know, giving up

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Speaker 1: on EJ. Manuel is a big a t L podcast trick,

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Speaker 1: but he's a rookie that went through an injury plague season.

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Speaker 1: Let's not count the guy out. Manuel has some strong qualities,

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Speaker 1: but among those is not passing even four thousand. You're

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Speaker 1: saying like he might not be bad. That's fine. Four

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Speaker 1: thousand yards is another matter. Four thousand Brandon weeded in

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Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen projections. Whatever among amongk is good qualities

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Speaker 1: though body language. Our listeners might not know this that

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Speaker 1: in general all body language, I believe. And you said

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Speaker 1: he's giving off good flavor. Yeah, yeah, you know. The

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Speaker 1: story goes back to combine his combine and I was

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Speaker 1: him and Geno Smith, and I could have told you

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Speaker 1: there and then Dan Genio was not the way to go,

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Speaker 1: you know. And e J might not have the talent.

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Speaker 1: I agree, doesn't hard we doesn't have a talent. And

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Speaker 1: but he's he's a nice kid. And you can see

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Speaker 1: a guy, a guy like that leading the team. And

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Speaker 1: when you listen to the people around them and just

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Speaker 1: listen to him, you can you can see that. Christen Ponder,

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Speaker 1: you kind of know, man, maybe he's not the guy

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith mixed feelings about him. E J. Manuel seems

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Speaker 1: like he commands the room. He's got the intangibles. I

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Speaker 1: don't know he has if he has the tangibles. Now,

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Speaker 1: speaking of Geno Smith, and we all know that there

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Speaker 1: are people on the Atail podcast that do not believe

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Speaker 1: in Gino Smith. I will ask this question, and this

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Speaker 1: comes from Vincent Petty at Vinny Petty who asked, if

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Speaker 1: the Jets are three and oh starting strong with Gino

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Speaker 1: as their starter in September, could they be a strong

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Speaker 1: candidate for the Team of a t L. UH Team

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Speaker 1: of a t L of course, is the team that

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Speaker 1: we will choose and get behind, just like we did

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers that's coming up later this summer and

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Speaker 1: into the fall. Jets three and oh, Gino playing well,

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Speaker 1: did they enter the discussion? Why not? Was Jets don't

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Speaker 1: excite me. The team of al a t L have

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Speaker 1: to naturally excite us. But I think you're missing the

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Speaker 1: big picture, which is he's saying they start three and

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Speaker 1: oh they're playing really well, and smiths, all right, I'll

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Speaker 1: keep my mind open, but I don't see it happen.

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Speaker 1: Sound like you're keeping your mind. I don't see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what were you visited? I'm really looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: who the team of West is this year. I know.

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Speaker 1: I think if a team of a t L is

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Speaker 1: going to be one of the teams to be rooted for,

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Speaker 1: it's weird that we haven't talked about. I still think

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Speaker 1: if I had to guess which team will end up

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Speaker 1: as the team of a t L, I think it's

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Wow. I think it's the brown because that

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Speaker 1: would be a lot of fun. All right, we'll move on.

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Speaker 1: What this is from act PO on nos At snow

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Speaker 1: the Ghost? Snow the Ghost? What team is most likely

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Speaker 1: to pull a Spain World Cup analogy? Be very good

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Speaker 1: one season, then just be bad the next. I will

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Speaker 1: jump in first. I answered this question, and I wrote

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Speaker 1: in the mail bag I thought that the chief would

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Speaker 1: be this team. I think that's an range safe answer.

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Speaker 1: Spain is one of the greatest teams of all time.

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Speaker 1: They just won the World Cup, and you're picking a

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Speaker 1: team that could be Saturday afternoon NBC game. You can't

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Speaker 1: construct the answer that way because then I have to

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Speaker 1: then answer the Broncos. No, but you you pick a

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Speaker 1: bigger better team go ahead of the top next, by

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Speaker 1: the way, what it doesn't just be bad the next well,

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Speaker 1: eight and eight kind of is bad for a team

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Speaker 1: like the forty Niners. Panthers are another pretty obvious one.

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Speaker 1: I think a very strong candidate. I agree the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: Panthers and are three best candidates. Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm as much I found down

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Speaker 1: on the Forts as much as Greg is. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: actually not. But I think if you're asking the question,

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Speaker 1: which of the top five teams in the NFL could fall,

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Speaker 1: I think just because of the division and the schedule

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Speaker 1: and other things, if they weren't in the a f

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Speaker 1: C South, because the rest of that division is so bad.

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Speaker 1: Come on, why can't say no one wants to get

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Speaker 1: some stones and go against the Patriots? Bring it, Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: This one is from Harry Kerr at Kerr HD. Are

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Speaker 1: you coming to London week four? Greg? I need to

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Speaker 1: work on that more. That's terrible, terrible answer. I don't

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Speaker 1: We don't have any update on that. This is from

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Speaker 1: Joe at j Trey three. This is, you know, at

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Speaker 1: the time of increased equality across our great nation, this

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Speaker 1: is a question that I like, so I'll put it

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Speaker 1: out there in TV. Please keep your ears open on

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Speaker 1: this one. At Dan Hansas, will you finally, I like

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Speaker 1: that finally is in here? Will you finally allow a

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Speaker 1: mail producer to say seduction Friday? Of course one of

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Speaker 1: k Rich's great comments. I don't think we want that.

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Speaker 1: It's up to you. You know, you're the clear that

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Speaker 1: the commissioner of this issue. But I'm I'm fine with

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Speaker 1: no one ever saying that. Again. Well, it's almost like,

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Speaker 1: how let's do it? Was? Uh was what was his name?

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Speaker 1: Bild Sanderson? That would be That's k richest thing. One

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Speaker 1: of our great producers of our past. So for for

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Speaker 1: t D and this, he's the most obvious example to

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Speaker 1: be dropping hay Fels, it's a seduction Friday. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's good. Totally agree, and my idea of

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Speaker 1: seduction Friday is not in the colde room with I

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Speaker 1: love you guys. But yeah, that's doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. Moving on, Brian Thompson writes at mclovin fifty two,

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Speaker 1: obviously signed up for Twitter after seeing super bad Um

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Speaker 1: several years ago. At NFL A t L, what are

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Speaker 1: we going to have the Mailman Stories podcast from West

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Speaker 1: or the Peter King Verse Chris Wesley no holds barred match.

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Speaker 1: We can do some Mailman stories. I'll have to think

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Speaker 1: up a few good ones, plenty of them. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: should for the for the rest of the quiet season NFL,

765
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Speaker 1: maybe have a Mailman story dropped into each podcast. I

766
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Speaker 1: was on probation at the post office for most of

767
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Speaker 1: my time there because I was twenty one years old

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Speaker 1: and I would always come in late on Saturday mornings. Awesome. Also,

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Speaker 1: I like the use of no holds barred. I recently

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Speaker 1: watched that movie on Netflix, an old Hulk Cogan movie

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Speaker 1: from one of the truly the most wretched films ever produced.

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Speaker 1: And if you look, if you're somebody that loves awesomely

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Speaker 1: bad movies, it's on Netflix stream right now. Greg, I

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Speaker 1: can tell you're going to be racing home. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to rumble. Guy, all right, what do you want to

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Speaker 1: do one more? We have the question about m v

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Speaker 1: P talk, but I think maybe we should save that

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Speaker 1: for the next show. So let's say that we'll do

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Speaker 1: one one more. Uh, this is good at NFL. A

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Speaker 1: T L you guys verse d d FP of the

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Speaker 1: Dave Damn Chick football program. In a game of five

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Speaker 1: aside soccer, who would play? What position? At producer t

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Speaker 1: D that's of course TDS, Twitter handle will referee. Of

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Speaker 1: course I wanted to play first of all, we don't

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Speaker 1: even know the positions. Well, we talked about this. Yes,

786
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Speaker 1: I played soccer through high school. I don't know that

787
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Speaker 1: I played soccer into high school and I was a goalie.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I will play with these hands. Back

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Speaker 1: when I played, we called it front line. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they still call it. Do they still call

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Speaker 1: it front line? You know? I think I can outrun

792
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Speaker 1: these guys in terms of endurance and long distance and

793
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: whatever positions. Yeah, it really doesn't and it really doesn't matter,

794
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Speaker 1: by the way, how we line up, because the Damage

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Speaker 1: Chick football program not a bunch of athletes over there now,

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Speaker 1: and I don't imagine damage that is doing much damage.

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Speaker 1: I can see Henry maybe being a bruising midfield. Do

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Speaker 1: they have enforcers in soccer? Soccer? That's the other is

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Speaker 1: the English hate soccer. Elliott's his makeup is going to

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Speaker 1: start running, used to do anything like that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling good, No matter really how we lined it up. Actually,

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Speaker 1: let's do one more because I mentioned downstairs to the

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Speaker 1: fellows and I wanted to give them some time to

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Speaker 1: think about it. This one comes from Isaiah at Isaiah

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Speaker 1: one one nine. If all you guys had an entrance song,

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Speaker 1: what would it be? And I guess when I picked

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Speaker 1: your entrance song? A lot of times I think of

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Speaker 1: either wrestling or at least a walk up at bat

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Speaker 1: in baseball. But in football, if you had an entrance song,

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Speaker 1: what would it be? Chris Westley, we did this and

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Speaker 1: when I played softball back in Cincinnati and I picked

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Speaker 1: I want to be sedated by the Ramones? Why was that?

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Speaker 1: Were you dealing with a chemical dependency? Could beat? It

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Speaker 1: started out? Really? I think, Um, I think I might

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Speaker 1: choose cool MODI how you like me? Now? Stop that

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Speaker 1: you like me? Now that's solid. I'm gonna go. Simon

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Speaker 1: says parentheses get the up by Pharaohmons. Now you might

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Speaker 1: not know this song off the top of your head,

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Speaker 1: but if you heard it, I would have put money

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Speaker 1: on Greg choosing a song I had never heard. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you if you listen this on YouTube, it'll get

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Speaker 1: you fired up. It is some entrance music. It's got

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Speaker 1: you know, some expletives, so that that's an issue, but

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Speaker 1: it's something I think. You know, you come out too,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get you hyped up. I like that. I

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Speaker 1: would probably go because I liked it when I think

827
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Speaker 1: of my youth and when I felt alive and there

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Speaker 1: were possibilities were endless. When you'd watch the Chicago Bulls,

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Speaker 1: they had that song, remember that cheesy nineties song? Uh

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Speaker 1: it sounded you know? Can we play that today? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember this and remember the cry, remember Horace Grant

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Speaker 1: pulling down the specs and and everybody getting excited. That

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Speaker 1: would be having it that that is getting the blood pump. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I would What I would play was I would wait,

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Speaker 1: like probably, I don't know. I still don't understand quite

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Speaker 1: the specifics of the question where we're coming from. I

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Speaker 1: guess the tunnel and what are we coming out for?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, the pods, Maybe for the podcast itself,

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Speaker 1: I guess I would wait like a good forty five

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Speaker 1: seconds until the crowd was just going nuts and they

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Speaker 1: couldn't take it anymore. That it is. Yeah, and if

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Speaker 1: or maybe I would do Young Monday song, get Your

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Speaker 1: Dan Hands, Get You already have your own entrance. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is the best part here. Let's not beat. That's percussious.

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Speaker 1: This is a close up with MG on the bench.

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Speaker 1: Get powder. I feel like the guy who did the NBC,

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Speaker 1: NBA and NBC theme song. Maybe I also did this

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Speaker 1: and you do you have Young Monday. That would be

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Speaker 1: a backup for me. Get you Dan hands the man's

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Speaker 1: best riding. You'll read now, listen to the sounds from

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Speaker 1: around the lead and then failing all those, failing all those,

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Speaker 1: that's got good music choices. But every except for Greg,

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Speaker 1: who would get an FCC fine Friz. It would be awesome,

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Speaker 1: it would be worth all right. That's it for today's

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Speaker 1: edition to be Around the League podcast. We will be

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Speaker 1: back on just one more show this week. We're doing

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Speaker 1: two shows this week. Uh and I guess most likely

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Speaker 1: but we'll play it by year. You never know what

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Speaker 1: will happen. Until Thursday. This is Dan Hansons signing off

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