WEBVTT - Everything You Need To Know Before Watching Captain America: Brave New World

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<v Speaker 1>Warning. Today's episode contains general spoilers for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Captain America characters. That means Statius Ross, that means Sam Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>that means Steve Rogers. That means Bucky Barnes in the

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<v Speaker 1>MCU movies, but also in Marvel comic books. So be

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<v Speaker 1>warned because we're going to tell you who these people

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<v Speaker 1>are and how we get to Captain America Brave New World. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Jason Getupsio and on Mesday Night, and

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<v Speaker 2>In this episode, as Jason hinted in the spoiler warning,

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<v Speaker 2>we are looking at the road to Captain America a

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<v Speaker 2>Brave New World. How did we get here? In the

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<v Speaker 2>MCU what decisions? Let us here? Who is Sam Wilson?

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<v Speaker 2>You know who Sam Wilson is if you listen to

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, but if you don't, who is he? How

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<v Speaker 2>did he take on the mantle of Captain America? And

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<v Speaker 2>who or what is a Red Hulk. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get into it, and then afterwards we're gonna do a

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<v Speaker 2>brief comics corner to talk about how the comics got

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<v Speaker 2>there so the movies could adapt them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's start with the MCU timeline of Captain America.

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<v Speaker 1>It opens in nineteen forty two, World War Two, raging

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight pound weekling Brooklyn boy Steve Rodgers has tried

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times Rosy to get into the army.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so tiny.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't do it. He's like a little pinhead, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's like a little pin with a stick finger with

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<v Speaker 1>a little pin body lollipops. He can't do it. He

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<v Speaker 1>can't even like lift a pencil. The guys but he's tough,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's weak. He's gonna me like he's got he's

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<v Speaker 1>got heart, he got hot kid. Steve attends the Stark

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<v Speaker 1>Expo with his best friend in Brooklyn, Bucky Barnes, and

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<v Speaker 1>as luck would have it, scientist Abraham Erskine, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the science head of the top secret Super Soldier program,

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<v Speaker 1>is also in attendance. Erskine has been worried because he's

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<v Speaker 1>developing this super Soldier serum that will make everything that's

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<v Speaker 1>inside a person just becomes stronger. So if you put

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<v Speaker 1>it into a bad man, he'll become worse. Put into

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<v Speaker 1>a good man, he'll become better. So he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>find this like, really good person, and he kind of thinks,

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<v Speaker 1>after overhearing conversation that Steve has, that maybe he could

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<v Speaker 1>be that guy. So he allows Steve to enlist in

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<v Speaker 1>the selection program, and Steve wins the bake off and

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<v Speaker 1>gets to undergo the super soldier process. It really really works.

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<v Speaker 1>He immediately after being bombarded by Vita Rays with a

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<v Speaker 1>super soldio seerup in his bloodstream, turns into Chris Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Chris Evans, no longer tiny CGI, Chris Evans, absolutely big, muscly,

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<v Speaker 2>real life buff Chris Evans.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for him, Good for him. And let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you Peggy Carter, who was running the training program, the

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<v Speaker 1>selection process, and was already kind of like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy Steve is good. I like him. Now she's

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, they're like, hold on hold the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So it works, but there's a problem because Hydra, the

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi organization, discovers that this super soldier process is taking place.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to destroy it or steal it, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they strike right after the super soldier process is completed,

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<v Speaker 1>Erskine is killed and all the work is destroy Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>chases down the killer, but he like chomps down on

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<v Speaker 1>the signid capsule and dies. Now that the super soldier

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<v Speaker 1>process is basically done for and the only viable specimen

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<v Speaker 1>of successful super soldier you know serum, is Rogers, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's in his blood. It's deemed that he's like too

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<v Speaker 1>valuable to put into the field, so he gets stuck

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<v Speaker 1>chilling war bonds. But then all.

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<v Speaker 2>Kinds of funny propagandas the girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But when he finds out that his best buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky Barnes and his elite unit, the Howland Commando, has.

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<v Speaker 2>Been captured, Steve goesgue.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Steve goes rogue on his own to rescue them,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's successful. Now with the Commandos at his back,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve has the juice to actually get into the war.

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes around and they're beating up Hydra Hither

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<v Speaker 1>and Yon and kicking them all around. Around this time,

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<v Speaker 1>Howard Stark, Tony's dad gives Steve his iconic shield made

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<v Speaker 1>of vibranium. It's indestructible almost because we do see Fanos

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<v Speaker 1>beat the shit out of it. In endgame anyway, Steve

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<v Speaker 1>is also Rosie, falling deeply in love with Peggy Carter

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<v Speaker 1>of cool love and this lady he thinks she's the Beasneys.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometime later, the Commandos are assaulting a Hydra supply train

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<v Speaker 1>in order to capture artam Zola, but it's a trap.

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky falls into a deep revene and dies.

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<v Speaker 2>He dies definitely coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, But the Allies do you managed to capture Artamzola.

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<v Speaker 1>Zola gives Rogers the location of like the main Hydro

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<v Speaker 1>base where the Red Skull is, and at that base,

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<v Speaker 1>Red Skull is preparing to use the Tesseract and object

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<v Speaker 1>of immense power that's also the Space Stone. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to use it to basically nuke America and win the

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<v Speaker 1>war and also nuke the Nazis and take over Nazi Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>Captain America defeats Hydra, beats the Red Skull, and like

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<v Speaker 1>the hero he is, goes down with the Red Skull's

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<v Speaker 1>plane and the Tesserak to the bottom of the North

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<v Speaker 1>Sea and says to Peggy Carter as he's going down,

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<v Speaker 1>I sure wish we could have had that dance. There's

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<v Speaker 1>tears all around and he crashes much, much, much Later

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<v Speaker 1>in the year twenty eleven, Nick Fury wakes up Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers and tells him he has a job for him.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to nineteen ninety one. Russian Assassin, Secret Assassin,

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<v Speaker 1>the Winter Soldier, who's been running around for decades assassinating

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<v Speaker 1>important people, assassinates Howard and Martha Stark. Because Howard is very,

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<v Speaker 1>very close, not even close in fact, has succeeded in

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<v Speaker 1>recreating the Super Soldier series. Their deaths are staged to

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<v Speaker 1>look like a car accident, which everybody thinks it's an

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<v Speaker 1>accident for years and years. We go to twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Thaddeus Thunderbolt Ross, a general, is one of many Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Defense contractors and Army related Defense Department people who

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<v Speaker 1>are looking to recreate the Super Soldier serum. This leads

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<v Speaker 1>to a laboratory accident in which Betty's his daughter's boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Banner, is bombarded with gamma rays and turns into

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking Hulk. Ross then chases the Hulk all around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and he also juices up with like off

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<v Speaker 1>brand Super Soldier Serum a Russian mercenary Emil Blonsky in

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<v Speaker 1>order to hopefully capture Bruce Banner. Emil eventually turns into

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<v Speaker 1>the Gamma powered abomination. The Hulk has to fight the

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<v Speaker 1>abomination in Harlem. All of Harlem like basically gets destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you know, it doesn't get destroyed. Rosie Ross

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<v Speaker 1>is get destroyed. He is, so he's on the express

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<v Speaker 1>Elemator to the top, all of the top. Nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>he does can possibly hurt him. And it's honestly one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most realistic things that happens in Barbara movies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That brings us to twenty twelve fictional twenty twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>marvels the Avengers. The job that Nick Fury has for

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<v Speaker 1>Steve is to lead his elite strike team, the Avengers.

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<v Speaker 1>Other members include Howard's son Tony the Iron Man, famed

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<v Speaker 1>Gamma researcher, It's fugitive Bruce Banner, recently seen being pursued

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<v Speaker 1>by Thaddeus Ross as Guardian God Thor shield assassins Clint

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<v Speaker 1>Barton and Natasha Romanov. You know the story. Thor's brother

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<v Speaker 1>Loki strikes a deal. Oak has takeover of Earth he

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<v Speaker 1>uses a scepter that turns out to be the Space

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<v Speaker 1>Stone to open a doorway and allow the Chachari to

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<v Speaker 1>invade New York, but they are defeated by the for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time ever assemble Avengers. And with that, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we will take a break to take to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>a word from our bonderagrement. Yeah, and we're back, Rosie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Time.

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<v Speaker 1>Why a fucking time?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, can you remember the first time you saw the

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<v Speaker 2>first Avengers movie? Like, what a time? I really cannot well,

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<v Speaker 2>A time.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going absolutely crazy. I remember the I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when they debuted the first trailer during the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and I was not necessarily I did not have high

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<v Speaker 1>hopes for the movie. But then I saw understandable railer

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, hold on a second, the Hulk

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<v Speaker 1>looks incredible. Is this not gonna be great?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it gonna be good?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was really great? Uh, Next up The Winter Soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>The year is twenty fourteen. When not working with the Avengers,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve is out in the field carrying out all types

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<v Speaker 1>of secret shield missions for Nick Fury. One of these

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<v Speaker 1>the rescue of the crew of the La Marie Star, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Nick Fury set up the hijack that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes under talked about. Is Nick Fury, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think we should talk about hired hired mercenaries to

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<v Speaker 1>hijack a Shield vessel so that he could get intel.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve during the rescue, op realizes that Natasha has other orders,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is to secure intel on Project Insight. Insight

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<v Speaker 1>is a project that goes all the way to the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the US Defense Establishment, to the Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>the World Security Council, Alexander Pierce, who is Nick Fury's boss.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Piers is also the leader of Hydra, the reconstituted

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<v Speaker 1>secret society. Hydra, the Nazi society went underground after World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two and because some of its important scientists, chief

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<v Speaker 1>among them Martem Zola, were imported to the United States

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<v Speaker 1>to help the US get the technological edge during the

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<v Speaker 1>Cold War, they kept doing Hydra shit and were able

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<v Speaker 1>to turn Shield over the years into a secret Hydra

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<v Speaker 1>scandalous organization, absolutely scandalous. Hydra Slash Shield puts the Winter

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<v Speaker 1>Soldier into the field in order to keep their conspiracy secret.

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<v Speaker 1>This legendary Russian assassin, who again has been active for decades,

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<v Speaker 1>kills Nick Fury. He's dead. Nick Fury is dead. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Rodgers is framed for the crime, is forced for

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<v Speaker 1>the first of many, many many times to go on

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<v Speaker 1>the run.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve was coming on there on this guy. He loves

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<v Speaker 2>to take his little motorbike and go on the run,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when he's helping his pal or his pals.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right now. One of his pals who he has

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<v Speaker 1>met while jogging is Sam Wilson, an Air Force veteran

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<v Speaker 1>and former member of the Elite Winged para rescue Spot.

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<v Speaker 1>They wear these winged jet packs and they fly around.

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<v Speaker 1>They do incredible feats. And so when Steve goes on

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<v Speaker 1>the run, the only people that he feels he can

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<v Speaker 1>turn to are one Natasha Romanov, who I believe, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they have intercourse, Like I believe that they make love.

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<v Speaker 2>This is peak. This is peak at the time when

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't put black Widow into a movie without her

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<v Speaker 2>being the love interest. And these two would definitely don't

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<v Speaker 2>come to knock in if the caravan is rocking.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, Like, I believe it. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was knocking. I believe that it is knocking.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other person is Sam his jogging buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>so they team up and they duke it out with

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<v Speaker 1>the Winter Soldier in the streets of DC. But then

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<v Speaker 1>Steve figures out that the Winter Soldier is his former

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<v Speaker 1>best friend for Brooklyn Funky Barnes. He's also still alive

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<v Speaker 1>after eighty years after World War Two and after he

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like he died at the hands of Hydra. Barnes

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<v Speaker 1>has been brainwashed and when he's not active, he is

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<v Speaker 1>kept in cryostasis. Steve, Natasha, Sam, and Nick who is

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<v Speaker 1>alive for the lja's plans. That's right, Foyle. Hydro's plans

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<v Speaker 1>to use insight to proactively execute all threats to their power.

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<v Speaker 1>This you know, like guys like Bruce Banner and Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Strange and more. Shield is disbanded because it's revealed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Nazi organization. Pierce is killed and the Winter

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<v Speaker 1>Soldier escapes for all this and goes underground. Age of Ultron,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony accidentally creates a super AI. The AI breaks free,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes a body out of vibranium, but it's eventually defeated.

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<v Speaker 1>But Tony's recklessness leads to the destruction of Novigrad, the

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<v Speaker 1>capital city of Sokovia and it's really, really, really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I I Corumba votes it's very bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the Avengers have killed many, many people in the MBC.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is colony's fault.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the collapteral damage that Tony Stark has created.

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<v Speaker 2>Is bad, bad news, bad, bad fucking news.

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<v Speaker 1>So the groundwork for a global movement against the Avengers

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<v Speaker 1>and against super powered individuals is laid with this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Destruction of Sokovia, Captain America Civil War Kap

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<v Speaker 1>and his team Natasha Wanda and Sam Track X Shield

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<v Speaker 1>and hydra Operative brock Rumlow aka crossbuondes to Lagos, Nigeria.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a fight, but the fight results in the deaths

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<v Speaker 1>of dozens of civilians, including Wakanda aid workers. The fallout

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<v Speaker 1>from Lagos and Sekovia is that, not to mention the

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<v Speaker 1>destruction of Harlem and the wreckage of New York, which

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't be blamed for New York, but I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>The result of all of this is the Secovia Accords.

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<v Speaker 1>US Secretary of State, this is shocking. US Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>State Thunderbolt Ross failing to the top, continuing to vault

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<v Speaker 1>at the top, informs the Avengers that listen, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to register or there's gonna be problems. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be arrested, that you're gonna be a fugitives, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be outlaws. It's gonna be that you can't undertake missions

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<v Speaker 1>now without the express clearance of the US government. Tony

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<v Speaker 1>chastened by the whole Ultron thing, and Sokoby is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think we need someone to limit us.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe this. Steve is like, well, I didn't destroy

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<v Speaker 1>the city, that's your fault, so I don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that we should have to register the

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<v Speaker 1>government with the government and do everything that they say.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems really scary to me. Steve tracks Bucky to

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<v Speaker 1>Berlin and tries to bring him in, but unfortunately, Bucky

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<v Speaker 1>has been framed for the murder of the King of Kanda,

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<v Speaker 1>so the king's son, now King T'Challa of Kanda aka

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Panther, is trying to bring Bucky to justice

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<v Speaker 1>or just take revenge for the murder of his father. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky is captured by German authorities, but Baron Zimo Sikovi,

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<v Speaker 1>an intelligence officer and a guy with a huge axe

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<v Speaker 1>to grind sneaks into the facility and Bucky's Winter Soldier programming.

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<v Speaker 1>Cap managed to manages to apprehend Bucky before he does

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<v Speaker 1>too much damage, and Bucky tells Steve that Baron's EMO

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<v Speaker 1>is behind all of this. Baron's Emo plans to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Siberian base where all the other Winter Soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>are so he maybe he can build himself like a

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<v Speaker 1>brainwatched Army. Cap and his team go to the airport

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<v Speaker 1>so they can fly to Siberia. They end up fighting

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<v Speaker 1>Ironman's team, now including Spider Man. Cap and Buck managed

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<v Speaker 1>to get away and then the rest of CAP's team

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<v Speaker 1>is interned by Thaddeus Ross into the supermax prison known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Raft. You're under arrest, You're under in Siberia.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, I gotta say, look, I love this movie, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do support I do support Captain America. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think it's so funny that he essentially like creates

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<v Speaker 2>an international incident because he wants to save as bestie.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that energy. I love that I believe it in.

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<v Speaker 2>He believes he is a good guy and he will

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<v Speaker 2>fight everyone to say his boy. That's why people's ship

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<v Speaker 2>Captain America and they went to Salja.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you just also say this Winter Soldier and Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War have three of the five best action scenes. And

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<v Speaker 1>Mao question, it's like really great. In Siberia, Tony, just

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<v Speaker 1>as Zimo intended, figures out that Bucky killed his parents

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety one. It's shocking. Zemo's true plan is

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<v Speaker 1>now revealed. It's to just tear the Avengers apart for

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<v Speaker 1>destroying his homes of Novigrad and Sekovia, and it works.

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<v Speaker 1>Cap and Bucky fight Tony. Tony's armor is destroyed. Cap

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<v Speaker 1>goes out underground, the Avengers are torn apart. Bucky goes

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<v Speaker 1>to Wakanda to hide out, and the Avengers are finished. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve infiltrates the raft and frees his his buddies, including

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Wilson. They go underground again. We go to Black Widow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, fattiest boss. I guess he's having a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stress because he's like on his third bypass surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>They mentioned it would be imagine how stressful it would

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<v Speaker 2>be to deal with the Avengers on like a daily

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<v Speaker 2>basis trying. Yeah, if you're trying to navigate like the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the world, and everything, and the Avengers just

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<v Speaker 2>keep not listening to what you're doing. And your daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>Betty Ross is also in love with the Hulk. That's

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<v Speaker 2>very stressful to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So Thaddeus Ross believes that Natasha helped Steve escape from

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<v Speaker 1>the Raft because Steve is not a sneaky guy. How

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<v Speaker 1>is all of a sudden He's sneaking into the Raft

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<v Speaker 1>and beat up all the marshals and getting people out.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that Natasha had something to do with this,

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<v Speaker 1>so he chases her all around the world and never

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<v Speaker 1>captures her, but then eventually he does capture her at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the film after she destroys the Red Room,

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<v Speaker 1>but she escapes yet again off camera. Infinity War Thanos

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<v Speaker 1>comes to Earth looking for the Stones, Cap and Sam

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of his team include Surface when Thanos's

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<v Speaker 1>lieutenants attack Wanda Envision in Scotland. Ross is not happy

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<v Speaker 1>that the Avengers are now like running around again and

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<v Speaker 1>Cap is running around again, and he tells Rody to

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<v Speaker 1>arrest Steve Rogers, but Rody's like fuck you. He hangs

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<v Speaker 1>up a come on as if God and is eventually

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<v Speaker 1>court martialed, but Schizm's remain the Avengers are fighting separately

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<v Speaker 1>cap in one team fight Thanos's army and Wakanda, Ironman

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<v Speaker 1>and another hastily assembled group fight them fight Sanos personally

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<v Speaker 1>on Titan, and everybody loses. Thanos assembles the Infinity Gauntlet,

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<v Speaker 1>he snaps. Half of the living beings in the universe disappear,

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<v Speaker 1>including Sam Wilson, Bucky Barnes, and Thaddius Ross. Get snapped, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>snapped up, and we will snap back to your ears

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<v Speaker 1>after word from us front. Yeah, and we're back ending.

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<v Speaker 1>Five years have passed after the snap universe and chaos,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanos is gone. Steve and the remnants of the Avengers

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<v Speaker 1>track him to a desolate planet where Thor beheads him

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody acts like Thor did a bad thing. They're shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know what you meant.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy killed trillions and eventually, Scott Laying the act

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<v Speaker 1>Man pops out of the quantum realm and everyone realizes

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<v Speaker 1>time travel as possible. Tony perfects the process. The Avengers

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<v Speaker 1>travel back to various points in time to assemble the

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<v Speaker 1>Stones before Thanos gets them. They bring everyone back defeat

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<v Speaker 1>a slightly younger version of Thanos who traveled from the

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<v Speaker 1>past to get the stones. They beat him, but Tony

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<v Speaker 1>dies in the process. They go to return all the stones.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve goes back to return the stones, but then is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna stay here. I'm a Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>Peggy Carter in the year nineteen forty nine, Steve, Stephen, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>They turn around at the spot where they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going into time where they have the time machine set up,

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<v Speaker 1>and they turn around. There's Steve. There's Steve. He's old now,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. Steve looks Joe Biden is but still sharp,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, know what, I can't do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>This is for you, Sam Wilson. This is the Captain

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<v Speaker 1>America Shield. You are the guy. You are the next

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<v Speaker 1>Captain America. I believe in you. Thaddeus Ross, returned to

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<v Speaker 1>life post snap, attends Tony's funeral with all the people

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<v Speaker 1>that he's chosen to try to arrest, and who knows

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<v Speaker 1>how that conversation went very weird that he shows up

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<v Speaker 1>Falkon and the Winter Soldier on Disney Plus. Six months

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<v Speaker 1>after the victory over Thanos, Sam is struggling with the

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<v Speaker 1>responsibilities and whether or not he wants to take up

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<v Speaker 1>the Shield, He and Bucky for a tenuous alliance. Bucky

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<v Speaker 1>is in therapy court mandated therapy after his many accidental

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<v Speaker 1>Winters Soldier activations. They go into the field to fight

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<v Speaker 1>the Flag Smashers, a terrorist group that's juiced up on

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<v Speaker 1>super Soldier serum thanks to the mysterious power Broker who

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<v Speaker 1>resides in Madreport. Behind it all is Baron Zimo pulling

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<v Speaker 1>various strings. The US Government, seeing Sam waffling, decides to

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<v Speaker 1>override Steve Steve's decision and they name John Walker as

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<v Speaker 1>their next Time in America. We learn over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of this series that Baltimore resident Isaiah Bradley, a Korean

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<v Speaker 1>War veteran, is part of a previously unknown super Soldier

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<v Speaker 1>program and he is one of dozens of such soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>who were exped and experimented on by Shield and Hydra

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<v Speaker 1>and the were just cut loose and thrown away. In

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<v Speaker 1>the end, Zemo and the Smashers are defeated. The power

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<v Speaker 1>broker is revealed to be none other than ex Shield

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<v Speaker 1>agent Sharon Carter. What what last scene in Captain America

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War, Okay Walker gets Super Soldier serum and becomes

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<v Speaker 1>US Agent. Bucky takes his therapy very seriously and finds

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<v Speaker 1>a measure of peace. Isaiah Bradley's sacrifices officially recognized when

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<v Speaker 1>they put some information about him and his picture and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff in the National History Museum, and Sam decides,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I am gonna become Captain America. Also

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<v Speaker 1>Ross orders in a post credit scene, Ross orders his

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<v Speaker 1>underling Major Donovan to begin secretly tracking all super powered individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>as if they weren't doing that all.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they were doing that already, Like come on,

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<v Speaker 2>come on now.

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<v Speaker 1>This sets us up for Captain America Brave New World

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<v Speaker 1>because we're gonna find out in this film and has

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<v Speaker 1>not a spoiler because this isn't all the trailers three

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<v Speaker 1>time bypass undergoer multiple time fucking up every mission that

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<v Speaker 1>he's every part of time. Thaddeus Ross is now president. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Seems bad, guys. So yeah, before before we jump into

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<v Speaker 2>the comics history it did we are in a weird situation.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie literally comes out. We are recording this right

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<v Speaker 2>now Friday, January thirty first, so it comes out in

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks. What do you feel like the temperature check

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<v Speaker 2>is on this movie? Like is the hype there, like

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<v Speaker 2>are we hearing are you seeing people like excited for it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is taking some of the older trends of

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<v Speaker 2>the MCU, Like you know, they would usually cast a

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<v Speaker 2>character actor. Obviously they had to recast Patatius Ross. They

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<v Speaker 2>went with Harrison Ford. This seems like Marvel's setting up

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<v Speaker 2>to be a huge movie. But what's your feeling on it?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you how are you feeling going in?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the I think that the buzzes has

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<v Speaker 1>been so negative for so long, with all the reshoots

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<v Speaker 1>and the either cutting or rewriting of Sabra and all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that's been around this film, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of political climate turning against Disney and Disney

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<v Speaker 1>properties in general. I believe that this we've now reached

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<v Speaker 1>the point where my personally, my expectations are solo that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm going to go into this movie

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, you know what, that was pretty good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that I too feel like that has been the

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<v Speaker 2>route that this is going, rather than with that man

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<v Speaker 2>in Quantumnia, where they were essentially like, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>best movie we've ever gonna make, and we've made exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what the fans want and everything they seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>going for a more like low key. I definitely think

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<v Speaker 2>they want to be channeling the Winter Soldier energy aka

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<v Speaker 2>the movie The Winter Soldier, that kind of espionage situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm interested. I think that I wasn't the hugest fan

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<v Speaker 2>of Falcon in The Winter Soldier and its representation of

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Wilson. I'm a big Sam Wilson in the comics.

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<v Speaker 1>That was also Covid exactly. I will say that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one plus Marvel show where I'm like, I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>him a pass on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I will say, going to be good, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is naturally this problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also I will say as well, something that

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<v Speaker 2>has excited me about the trailers, even though you know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going in warily is I love the way that

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<v Speaker 2>they're using Sam's suit in the action. We get to

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<v Speaker 2>see him, you know, cut through a car with his wings.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're also looks like he's probably got a

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<v Speaker 2>vibranium suit, because we seem to have some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>kinic absorption. So I hope Sam's really going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to be a hero here, and I hope that people

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<v Speaker 2>are going to get to kind of fall in love

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<v Speaker 2>with him. Okay, Aaron says, do we think the suit

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<v Speaker 2>is vibrainium or adamantium. Well, I would say the kinetic absorption.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it is vibranium. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that just as the original Black Panther movie

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<v Speaker 2>and Claw and kind of the introduction of vibranium as

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<v Speaker 2>a natural resource that MCU would want like people in

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<v Speaker 2>the mc would want, I do think that we should

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<v Speaker 2>expect to probably hear about adamantium sometime soon. There is

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<v Speaker 2>also a big chance that one of the reasons that

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<v Speaker 2>Thaddius Ross goes on the transformative journey that he will

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<v Speaker 2>go on in this movie is we'll talk about more

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<v Speaker 2>in a moment in the comics is probably because they

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<v Speaker 2>know that there's a threat of mutation and all that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. Obviously, I'm excited because the eternals and

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<v Speaker 2>Arashim will be mentioned here, so finally maybe we can understand.

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<v Speaker 1>What people are doing about that. Maybe there's solestional in

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, guys, anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone interested ever heard of it? But I do think

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<v Speaker 2>that with all the struggles of the MCU and everything

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and the ups and downs, I do still think as

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<v Speaker 2>I will get to when we talk about comics in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute. Sam Wilson's very important character in Marvel history.

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I think Anthony Macki does a great job bringing him

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<v Speaker 2>to life, and I hope that after maybe the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of slightly lacking in impact of Cap in the Winter

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Falcon and The Winter Soldier, I think that I'm hoping

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>that this at least does Sam Wilson justice. And I'm

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 2>interested to see because it feels crazy to be two

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 2>weeks out and even in our discord, this is not

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 2>what the people are talking about, you know, the people

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>are talking about everything else. So I'm gonna be yes,

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>it was, And I just need to say, it's Tiama

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 2>who is in the ocean, not Arisham. Arisham is a

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>celestial How.

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Could you it was me?

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 2>How can I ever get this wrong about my favorite

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>move or my favorite movie. The Eternal is on paper.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>There's some fun, dramatic juice. Yes, it's going into this movie,

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:48.239
<v Speaker 1>like the President has arrested Captain America multiple times, Like

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>in his past job as Secretary of State and Avengers Hunter,

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>he has imprisoned Sam Wilson, currently Captain America in the

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Raft multiple times. And I feel like that's a really

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>cool like conflict to just have. That's your boss. Your

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>boss has put you in prison and now, and so

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's a really cool place to start dramatically,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and so I hope that I'm hoping that this movie

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 1>is cool. Should we go to comics Corner and let's

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Corner up.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to comics Corner, where we're now going to where

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie is now going to walk you through the origins

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>of and the developments around some of these characters, notably

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>read Hulk, who is a more recent character in a

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>comics canon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I will I will begin with Sam Wilson, as

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>it will be easy to justly through pun intended. So Ever,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>since Sam was given cap Shield at the end of Endgame,

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 2>people have said, oh, it's Sam Wilson. Was he have

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>a Captain America? Yes, though it did take a long

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 2>time for him to get there, but his connection to

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Captain America and specifically Steve Rodgers was there from the

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 2>very beginning. He was one of the first black superheroes

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 2>really with any prominence in Marvel Comics. In fact, Stanley

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>actually introduced the Falcon at a chat at Duke University.

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>His talk was titled Comics as a reflection of contemporary culture,

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and he expressed kind of the need to keep comics

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>updated with social movements. Falcon's first appearance was in nineteen

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 2>sixty nine and Captain America one seventeen, and from then

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 2>on the characters just had this really deep connection. Steve

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 2>was the one who encouraged Sam to take on the

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:43.959
<v Speaker 2>heroic mantle of Falcon, inspired by the wild bird that

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the Harlem resident had trained, because in the original comics,

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Sam essentially had a connection to birds that began as

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a non superheroic power and evolved into avian telepathy essentially,

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and the pair were actually so connected that in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy one, just two years after Sam was first introduced,

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 2>the publication title of the flagship Captain America book was

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>changed to Captain America and the Falcon and stayed that

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.239
<v Speaker 2>way for seven years. Sam and Steve have long been

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>best friends and compatriots and fellow heroes, with the pair

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>in one of my favorite issues even apparently sharing a

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>bed during Jack Kirby's Captain America one ninety three, where

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>they debated slavery and civil war, and Sam basically just

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 2>told Steve the real, real talk. It was late to

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 2>confirmed by Marvel that they are in two beds that

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>are just very close. But I don't know if I

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>believe that their close relationship, along with Sam's heroism and

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of moral compass, led to a large segment of

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>fans just constantly asking like, will Sam ever become Captain America?

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Because throughout the years, as we know, Steve Rogers has

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>given it up, he has become nomad. We've seen people

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>like US agent John Walker take over the mantle, but

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>fans would often write in and be like, when will

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Sam take the mantle? What does Sam Wilson have to

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>bring now? In the comics. I will say this is

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 2>something I talk about a lot when we talk about

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Sam Wilson. Sam Wilson was originally a social worker, and

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that is something that I was kind of

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 2>pained to see them take out of the movies, even

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>though they play into it a little bit with him

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 2>being a veteran and a counselor, but he was a

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 2>social worker then, as many black comic characters deal with.

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 2>There was some a really racist retcon where they made

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>it that actually that was fake and he just said

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>that to help Captain America and really he was a

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>gangster named Snap Wilson and luckily that was really bad. Yes,

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>there's some classically bad stuff. And then eventually it was

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>brought back to him being a social worker and it

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 2>was all to do with the Red skull Shenanigans in people.

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>So he's had a really complicated road. But I will

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 2>say something that's very cool is, as you notice from

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the mentions of the villains there, like Red, Red Skull

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, Sam is inherently a Captain America character, Like

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>this is where he is and this was always going

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 2>to be his path and if you can believe it.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 2>So he was introduced guys in nineteen sixty nine and

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't until twenty fourteen that he took on the mantle,

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>and that was in the final issue of Rick Ramenda

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and Carlos Pacheco's Captain America run, where there was a

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 2>momentous kind of sequence that would see the Avengers Endgame one.

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 2>After Steve has turned into an old man far closer

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to the reality of his actual age than his Super

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Soldier serum version, he has to choose a new America

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Captain America, and alongside Peggy, he chooses Sam to take

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>on the role, and then a month later all new

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Captain America, which had Stuart immanon legend on art duties

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>with Remeenda writing, and that was kind of where we

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>saw Sam Wilson as Captain America for the very first time.

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>In twenty fifteen, Sam got a new series called Captain

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 2>America Sam Wilson, helmed by controversial writer and failed politician

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Nick Spencer, leading into the much maligned Hydra cap Art

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>arc where Captain America was a Nazi terrible stuff off

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that Sam was Captain America at all,

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 2>that was really what mattered. And as he's now kind

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 2>of taken on the mantle in the movies and the

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 2>TV show, something that I think a lot of fans

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 2>have always wanted is to allow black creatives in the

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>space of Sam Wilson, which to that point was not

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 2>the case. Both of Sam Wilson's Captain America stories then

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>were written by white writers and no rememders. Kind of

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 2>exploration was seen as relatively good one. In the Spencer series,

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, there were things like Sam Wilson has to

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 2>go up against Black Lives Matter protesters or a team

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:55.439
<v Speaker 2>of superpowered Sjw's and luckily we've kind of seen even

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 2>though there were critiques of the Sam Wilson representation as

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>CAP in the TV show on Disney Plus, we were

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.240
<v Speaker 2>at least getting a black creative team telling these stories,

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 2>and it looks like we are gonna get the same

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>thing now and in the comics currently, we also do

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 2>have Evan Narcis writing the Captain America Sam Wilson book,

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>which is really fun plays into a lot of what

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna see in the movies with facing him off

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 2>against Red Hulk, and yeah, if you've ever wondered, like,

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 2>what are Sam's powers in the comics, well, originally he

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 2>was non superpowered. Then it was revealed that he had

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>superpowered telepathy towards birds, which is how he had red

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 2>wing his falcon, and then that became telepathy to all birds. Fantastic.

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 2>And then also one of my favorite things that I

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 2>hope we see in the movie is he's a master

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>martial artist because he was taught by none other than

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Captain America Steven he is in he's Stephen Rodgers, a

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 2>famous judo master. Of course, peak human condition, peak human strength,

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>he's basically the healthiest that you can be and he

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 2>got just like in the MCU, he got his wings,

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>and Black Panther was actually the one who supplied him

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 2>with these kind of hard light wings. Tony Stark has

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 2>helped him with that suit. And this is very interesting,

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I would be I would assume that the hood with

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the glasses is what's going to explain this. In the comics,

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 2>he actually has like a cybernetic implant that allows him

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 2>to kind of see what birds can see. In case

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>you didn't know, I'm I'm a big fan of the

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>bird part of Falcon. I feel like we haven't got

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.760
<v Speaker 2>into that enough. In the MCU, it's all drones, drones, drones,

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 2>But I will be interesting to see the version of

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Red Wing that they attempt to do. Also in the comics,

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>there was a time when Sam Wilson was insinuated to

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>be a mutant and that's how he could speak to

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 2>a good old Red Wing. But actually it was in

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the end connected to Red School's use of the cosmic Cube.

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 2>And of course his number one paraphernalia and weapon is

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Steve Rodgers shield, which he now carries. So that basically

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:15.479
<v Speaker 2>takes us to how Sam Wilson became the beautiful hero

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 2>known as the Falcon and eventually Captain America. I'm big

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Sam Wilson fan. He is a very important character, someone

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 2>who has numerous incredible comic book appearances and who I

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>hope will get his shine and his flowers in this

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 2>movie as Captain America as he should have been, you know,

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 2>since probably the seventies that should have happened. And now

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>onto Thaddeus Ross aka the Red Hulk. Now this whiler.

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah spoiler, oh yes, spoiler spoiler. Daddius Ross is an old,

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 2>old old character first debuted in The Incredible Hulk number

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 2>one from nineteen sixty two, created by Stanley and Jack Kirby,

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 2>of course, and it would be you know, decades later

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 2>that the Hulk's antagonist who was mostly just his antagonists

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 2>because the Hulk was banging his daughter Betsy Ross. And

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 2>years years later, in two thousand and eight, we would

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:21.879
<v Speaker 2>learn that there was a new Hulk, the Red Hulk

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>or at the time, which I think is really funny.

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't think this stuck the Roulk. They tried that one,

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>or the Incrediable Hulk with the big Red He's just

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Red Hulk. That was in volume two of the Hulk

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>is Comics created by none other than Jeff Loeb and

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Ed McGuinness Ed McGinnis fantastic artist in Hulk number one.

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>This was a massive moment because it has something that

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 2>had actually been like seated and teased for a long time,

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 2>because in the Incredible Hulk TV series there was a

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>conversation that maybe there should be a red version of

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the Hulk who was an evil version, but that never happened,

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 2>and then eventually jok Asada was like, let's introduce this

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 2>scary new red Hulk, and nobody knew who he was.

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.919
<v Speaker 2>That was like the biggest thing about it was there

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 2>was a very scary, new aggressive Hulk. He murders Hulk adversaries.

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>He's murdering when the Wendigo, he's murdering the Abomination. He's

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 2>destroying the Hellic Carrier of Shields, so he doesn't really

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 2>have a side. He's essentially like a Godzilla esque force

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 2>of nature. He's fighting his way through San Francisco, causing

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 2>earthquakes and eventually is defeated by a team up of

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Hulk and Thor. Then we start to get other teams

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 2>who are trying to work out who he is. People

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 2>like the Collector, people like the Silver Surfer. I mean,

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.320
<v Speaker 2>the Red Hulk is so powerful that at one point

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>in the comics he actually siphons the power Cosmic from

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the Silver Surfer, essentially, you know, killing him and then

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>goes on the Silver Surface Board killing nay More, Tiger Shark,

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Strange, Baron Mordo, the Grandmaster Psychoman. I love Psychoman.

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 2>That's a great poll and uh, but Galactus is like,

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>that's not happening, takes away the power cosmic and everyone

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>is born again. So then you start to work out, well,

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 2>where did this Red Holk come from? Is this a

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 2>gamma situation? Is it a different kind of event that

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 2>caused the Hawk. No, Like every problem in the MCU

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and in the Marvel comics, pretty much every problem can

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 2>be drawn back to one thing. People trying to recreate

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 2>the super Soldier serum Jason Will.

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>They have a stop super Soldier they have ever stopped.

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 2>So you got This is what I think people don't

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 2>really understand, especially in a modern era of comics where

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 2>a lot of issues and a lot of series don't

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 2>go past you know, five issues. It's a mini series.

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a limited series at best, with twelve it

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 2>was two years later that we finally found out who

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<v Speaker 2>Red Hulk was, which is pretty unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>In the stretched it out like she thrung it out.

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<v Speaker 2>They made him a very scary character. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>did have in two thousand and nine there was a

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<v Speaker 2>Code Red story arc which was where we got Red

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<v Speaker 2>chee h cool character.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, and they have those kind of overarching mysteries.

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<v Speaker 1>They've done it a couple of times, obviously Thunderbolts. Thunderbolts

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those, but I like when they do that,

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<v Speaker 1>like who is the who could this new?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really really fun, and you could have comics

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<v Speaker 2>that were going on long enough that at this time

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<v Speaker 2>you could take two years to reveal it. So in

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<v Speaker 2>a storyline that was called Full of the Hulk's Gamma,

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Hulk is essentially revealed to have killed General

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<v Speaker 2>Ross at the behest of Bruce Banner, shocking twist, making

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<v Speaker 2>it seem like the pair were teamed up, but that

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<v Speaker 2>was not true. What had actually had happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>very beloved World Well Hulk's storyline, which was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the follow up to this, and I really like I

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<v Speaker 2>think this storyline is really really fun it's Greg Park,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Jeff Lob. It's not as iconic as like Planet

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<v Speaker 2>Hulk or World Willhulk, the original one. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>really fun because you get to find out that redche

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<v Speaker 2>Hulk is actually Betty Ross and that, just like Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Fury in the MCU, Dundbolt Ross was not actually killed,

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<v Speaker 2>the version of him that was killed was actually a

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<v Speaker 2>life model decoy, and that the real Red Hulk is

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<v Speaker 2>actually Betty's dad, Dunderbolt Rock. And this is where we

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<v Speaker 2>start to learn a little bit more about the Red

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<v Speaker 2>Hulk and his powers. He is very very very very

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<v Speaker 2>very powerful. But if he overheats, that's right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you end up in a situation where he can be exhausted,

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<v Speaker 2>he can be beaten, and that will probably play into

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<v Speaker 2>the movie as we see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the main difference. So Hulk Bruce Banner Hulk.

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<v Speaker 1>He can syriically get as strong as he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>get to fight anybody, depending on if he can get

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<v Speaker 1>angry enough, if he has time to get angry exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>so his strength increases with anger. Red Hulk. The angrier

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<v Speaker 1>he gets, the hotter he gets. He gets really hot.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't get strong, he's already like Hulk level strong,

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<v Speaker 1>but his strength does not increase, the temperature of his

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<v Speaker 1>body increases.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And it's very very interesting because A I

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<v Speaker 2>love this because it's basically comic book. It's very comic

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<v Speaker 2>book kind of law and comic book, almost book like explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is he read? Oh he's just hot, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. That's really really fun. But yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>is beaten by Hulk obviously, and he imprisons the Red

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<v Speaker 2>Hulk in a Gamma base and then later he I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say, guys, we could see this happen,

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<v Speaker 2>so put an earmuffs over your ears if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to spoiler. But Red Hulk essentially ends up joining

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<v Speaker 2>the Avengers. I think here it would be more likely

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<v Speaker 2>that we would get a kind of Thunderbolts version, especially

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<v Speaker 2>seeing as Thunderbolt Ross Thunnibolt's wink wink, you know, nudge, nudge,

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<v Speaker 2>check that one out. But essentially after that, the Red

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<v Speaker 2>Hulk is more of a positive figure, at least the

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<v Speaker 2>version of the sorry I should say, the Thunderbolt Ross version.

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<v Speaker 2>There are multiple versions of the Red Hulk, but throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the years he is always getting imprisoned, turned into a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, helper on a team does something wrong, goes back,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is essentially what you need to know about

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<v Speaker 2>dunabout Ross aka the Red Hulk, who will be starring

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie, and I'm very interested to see the

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<v Speaker 2>version because in the comics, something that's very different about

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Hulk too is he's very clever. He is

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a smart Hulk or doctor Hulk or scientist Holk

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<v Speaker 2>or whichever version you want to call it. He is uninhibited,

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<v Speaker 2>He's incredibly tactical. He can plan anything, he can strategize anything.

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<v Speaker 2>He is essentially like the kind of Hulk who would

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<v Speaker 2>hold a gun. If you're somebody who loves Shadow the

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<v Speaker 2>Hedgehog and you're like, oh, my favorite thing about Shadow

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.439
<v Speaker 2>the Hedgehog is like he holds a AK forty seven

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<v Speaker 2>in the video games. That's very much the same energy

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<v Speaker 2>as as Red Hulk. And it's gonna be really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to see where this goes. Jason, My biggest question to you,

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<v Speaker 2>as somebody who knows these comics, well, who knows these characters,

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<v Speaker 2>will the Red Hulk be the true antagonist of Captain

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<v Speaker 2>America A brave New World?

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<v Speaker 1>Great question, I think not. I think that, at least

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<v Speaker 1>from the what I'm picking up in the trailer, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me that Fatteus might not even have been

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<v Speaker 1>aware that he had undergone whatever process that this is,

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<v Speaker 1>or the true nature of it, because he looks pretty

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to be turning into the Hulk.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's like, wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, this sucks, Like this is mad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very interested. We will be very interested to see

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<v Speaker 1>how all this unfolds when Captain America Brave New World

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<v Speaker 1>debuts in just two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>On February fourteenth. Valentine right O, Red Hulk. He's read romance. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's it for this episode of X ray Vision.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be covering Captain America Brave New World. So

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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned for our reactions. Thanks for listening, I Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sepcion and Rosie

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<v Speaker 2>Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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