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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we always kicked the ball

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Speaker 1: out of the end zone. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in

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Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio with my friend Jordan rod Reeg.

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Speaker 1: It's another Tuesday together. We hope to welcome Colleen Wolf

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Speaker 1: back next week.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: But yes, we have omens galore to talk about, including

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Speaker 1: one in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: It is the final day of omens season. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you know that.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: You've been kind of on the omens beat the entire

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Speaker 4: off season, from the spring all the way into the summer.

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Speaker 4: You've been tracking first plays all across the.

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Speaker 2: Lead into first place, big tone setters.

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Speaker 3: Symbols and signs.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're you're kind of like tracking ruins at

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Speaker 4: this point. You know, the stars, all of that. So you're,

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Speaker 4: you know, you're really in it.

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Speaker 1: Omens are are my corner of this football, you know, Cognizanti.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to do some news off the top

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Speaker 1: of the show, and we just got some interesting news

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Speaker 1: about Jalen Carter. We're going to talk about some omens

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Speaker 1: that we believe in. So basically, after week one, you

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Speaker 1: know which omens good, mostly or bad that we think

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Speaker 1: will have some staying power. Patrick Claybon is going to

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Speaker 1: contribute something to this show that I have no idea

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Speaker 1: what it is, but I think it's going to blow

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Speaker 1: my mind. And we're going to preview Commanders Packers coming up.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll start with the news and Jalen Carter

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Speaker 1: of the Eagles will be eligible to play in Week two.

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Speaker 1: The NFL announced on Tuesday that he will forfeit an

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Speaker 1: entire game. Check They were actually calling it a one

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Speaker 1: game suspension. The press release says Jalen Carter suspended one game,

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Speaker 1: but that one game was Game one, the opener, where

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Speaker 1: he was actually on the field. So I feel like

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Speaker 1: they're being a little fast and loose, but who am

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Speaker 1: I to be pedantic with the NFL suspension rules. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: they're saying spitting is a suspensionable event.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and it is a at least a one game

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Speaker 4: suspension here into the future. It sort of sets this precedent.

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Speaker 4: They're saying this because he missed the.

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Speaker 3: Entire game, you didn't play. It is a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a loophole in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: So that's the best.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna spit, just get your money, do it

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Speaker 1: at the beginning, Because are they saying that if you

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Speaker 1: spit five minutes into the game, you're kicked out of

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Speaker 1: that game, but you weren't suspended for that game.

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Speaker 2: It's a little.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know. We'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully this doesn't happen a lot in the future.

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Speaker 2: No, they were very cool, a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of money. That's a whole game check for Jalen Carter.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't need to be a media insider or

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Speaker 1: media literate to notice that every single insider out there

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Speaker 1: said this is supposed to warn people in the future

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Speaker 1: how serious it is about spitting.

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Speaker 2: And I get it.

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Speaker 1: I like having an unofficial rule that spitting gets you suspended.

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Speaker 4: One game noted spitting is bad. Spitting on people is bad.

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Speaker 1: It is bad. But also it wasn't a suspension. He

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Speaker 1: got kick kicked out of the game. If it was

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Speaker 1: So good news for the Eagles. They're heading to play

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs this week. I'm looking forward to previewing that.

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Speaker 1: On our show Wednesday, some other items we mentioned George

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Speaker 1: Kittle who had that injury on the Monday Night show

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Speaker 1: and if you're looking for all the news recaps. Nick

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Speaker 1: Shook and I hit a lot of the news and

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Speaker 1: on Mondays a lot of news drop. So we hit

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Speaker 1: that at the end of the Monday night recap. But

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Speaker 1: we didn't know that George Kittle was officially going to

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Speaker 1: injured reserve, and we didn't know at all that Jake

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Speaker 4: In fact, we were told something completely different earlier this

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Speaker 4: week when Kyle Shanahan said after Sunday's game that Jake

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Speaker 4: Moody would still be their kicker. And then you know,

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Speaker 4: and Eddie Pinero is on his way after a workout

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Speaker 1: I just think you should stop drafting kickers. It just

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Speaker 1: it always, it just doesn't seem like it works. It

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Speaker 1: It's such an unpredictable position, and we've seen it time

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Speaker 1: after time that really good kickers who have good careers

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Speaker 1: he flamed out with the Chargers. The Patriots have had

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Speaker 2: This keeps happening over and over.

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Speaker 1: But man, Jake Moody had a rough Has it been

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Speaker 2: It has been rough?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I you know what, I hate it for

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Speaker 3: I think that it's just such a hard job.

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Speaker 4: It's such a fickle job, and there's so much mental

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Speaker 4: Even though they were the ones that drafted him with

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Speaker 4: And so it's a tough job. It's made tougher when

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Speaker 4: there are expectations on you. They did give him a

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Speaker 1: I was surprised they didn't replace some this offseason. I

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Speaker 1: first game they're like, well, oh, Jake Moody's still the kicker.

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Speaker 1: four weeks is a long time to be without George Kittle,

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Speaker 1: and a hamstring injury is the last thing you want

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Speaker 1: to see with a thirty one year old, and so

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Speaker 1: much of the offense is based around George Kittle can do.

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Speaker 1: Not that the other Titans in there in the room

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Speaker 1: there's definitely no receiving threat the next four games at

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Speaker 1: night that he will miss, and so that's the earliest

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Speaker 4: Juwan Jennings is also banged up after missing the entirety

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Speaker 2: Gave him thirty one touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Then yeah, and then he was fine and and so

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Speaker 4: this group continues to be The passing game in general

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Speaker 4: continues to be of I think a significant concern. The

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Speaker 4: only healthy players. Ricky Piersoll went over one hundred this weekend.

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Speaker 1: But they will count on Jake Tongjis who had a

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Speaker 1: big time touchdown, big time catch, and Luke Fair actually

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Speaker 2: We'll preview their game.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned on Wednesday, not a ton of huge headlines,

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Speaker 1: so I think this Tuesday show is kind of just

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Speaker 1: There were a couple other signings. By the way, Jabrill

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Speaker 1: Peppers goes to the Steelers, who was a really good

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Speaker 1: That's because their safety to Shawn Elliott is going to

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Speaker 1: just throw some sound by you, just some things that

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not like hard news, but I found it interesting.

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Speaker 1: And I'll start with Liam Cohen talking about why Brian

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Speaker 1: Thomas Junior, you know, didn't have much production as a receiver.

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Speaker 1: They threw seven passes to him on Sunday, it was

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Speaker 1: one reception. You know, there was a lot of fantasy

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Speaker 1: points for Brian Thomas Junior. Listen to mister Cohen.

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Speaker 5: or second drive of the game, first play of the game, right,

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Speaker 5: we don't convert it, throw him a screen low doesn't

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Speaker 5: We missed him on a in breaker which he had

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Speaker 5: So you're talking about that's five catches right there. That

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Speaker 4: You know, his voice has changed, Oh it sounds so okay.

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Speaker 4: So he's got a little bit of a Southern accent

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Speaker 4: talking about what actually happened.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just so honest.

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Speaker 1: He's soest and I if you've been listening all off season,

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Speaker 1: we love you. But this is maybe the third time

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Speaker 1: we've noted this that Liam Cohn is so honest. If

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Speaker 1: mean so much of last season where Doug Peterson was

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Speaker 1: talking about how open the receivers were.

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Speaker 2: There is a little bit of a trend here.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer actually said some similar things in his brief

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Speaker 1: time in Jacksonville. And you do wonder if Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: here's that that press conference and is like, that's.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Oh, it's a passive aggression.

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Speaker 1: I know, but it's like I don't even think he

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Speaker 1: knows he's doing it. But everyone's listening to that and

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the subtext here where I'm like, man, it

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Speaker 4: there's an edge to.

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Speaker 3: It, though, is there?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 1: Like I think he's just answering the question. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: know him better than I know you do.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, is like, I don't think he's

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Speaker 4: meaning for that. You have an edge to it. It

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Speaker 4: just sounds that way, Like I don't think he means it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a last thing that he would want,

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Speaker 1: and I do think he will. Something is going to

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Speaker 1: who goes out of his way to almost artificially pump

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Speaker 1: with some omen. Like I said, it's omens season. I

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about this.

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Speaker 1: the cornerback and Minka Fitzpatrick who was in zone covered.

441
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: So that is three of your first five attempts and

442
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: six plays overall that are going to this guy, and

443
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: they're all at different parts of the field. I know

444
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: the opposition was forgiving I guess on Sunday, but look,

445
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: Patrick picked the.

446
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 2: Dolphins to win.

447
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 1: I thought the Dolphins were gonna win and so I

448
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: think that was a statement play calling series and game

449
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: by Tyler Warren. I am so excited to see what's next,

450
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: give me another OMEN.

451
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 4: I'm going Los Angeles Chargers on this one. So there

452
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 4: was a moment. It came at the very very end

453
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 4: of the game, after a pretty strong Chargers performance against

454
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 4: that Chiefs defense, when Justin Herbert keeps the ball, runs

455
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 4: for the conversion and then slides down. That in itself

456
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 4: maybe not an OMEN, but it's the little flourish and

457
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 4: you'll see it if you're watching on YouTube.

458
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: As soon as he slides down.

459
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 4: It's the little flourish where he sort of flexes one

460
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: arm and he sort of points with the other and

461
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 4: he's got this this face. See he's sliding with a

462
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 4: lot of flourish here with the flex.

463
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: Oh, he held it. He held it first, and he.

464
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 4: Held the pose right. This was magazine cover style posing.

465
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 4: Now Justin Herbert, for people who don't who aren't as familiar,

466
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 4: he is a very quiet, very like media shy, more

467
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 4: introverted type of person. And in fact, you hear more

468
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: from Jim Harbaugh about Justin Herbert when you talk about

469
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 4: gassing up your quarterbacks to an.

470
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: A great excessive level.

471
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 4: You know, this is who you hear from most of

472
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 4: the time talking about Justin Herbert. But I think that

473
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 4: that in itself not only was an omen that they're

474
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: going to use him more on the ground, which he

475
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 4: did that game. He ran ran a couple times. I

476
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 4: was at one of their training camp practices. They were

477
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 4: installing more design runs for him. It's also he's healthy

478
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 4: this season versus the start of last season when he's

479
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 4: dealing with the foot injury, and they're going to him

480
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 4: to be a weapon in that way against defenses. But

481
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 4: also an omen of Justin Herbert maybe emerging into the

482
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 4: spotlight a little bit more this season, maybe taking the

483
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: mantle of being this more maybe public facing guy who's

484
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 4: going to put a flourish and a little edge at

485
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 4: the end of some of these plays versus quietly, you know,

486
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: kind of going.

487
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: That's a little more comfortable in his skin.

488
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, just a kid having fun out there, Justin Herbert,

489
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: like you could, I think you could see it. I

490
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: think there was a looseness and a confidence in the

491
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: way that he played. And you can look at the

492
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: rushing totals and he had thirty one yards on the game.

493
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: And think, oh, that's not that crazy. That's actually one

494
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: of the higher marks of his career. In a given season,

495
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: he'll usually top that once or twice, but in general,

496
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: the seven attempts stand out to me more. That's more

497
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: again than almost any game that he's had as a pro,

498
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: like one or two at most each season.

499
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: He runs more than that.

500
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 4: And it wasn't all scrambling. Some of it's designed and

501
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: then also picking up a couple of crucial downs too.

502
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 4: I mean, it was absolutely a threat, and you could

503
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 4: tell that the Chiefs were a little bit on their

504
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 4: back foot defending that.

505
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: So I didn't mean to have a theme with mine,

506
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: but I just went with rookies and specifically wanted to

507
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: give some love to the Browns rookies against the Bengals.

508
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: I know they lost that game, and it just felt

509
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: like the most Brownsie thing ever. But before the season,

510
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: all we said, you know, we were focusing on the quarterbacks.

511
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: All we said was like, the only thing that matters

512
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: is going to be the development of these rookies on

513
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: this team this year. And their rookies were awesome in

514
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: Week one and that's to me just such an incredible Onoman.

515
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: And I'll start with Harold Fannon, who you know as

516
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: a great player after the catch had to carry, played

517
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: as a full back, and him and Tyler Warren actually

518
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: are now the co leaders in the history of the

519
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: NFL for receptions by a tight end in their first

520
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: ever game, Like, no one's ever caught more than seven

521
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: than Fannin and Tyler Warren and the leader of.

522
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: That And I guess this is becoming a trend.

523
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: Was Brock Bauers a year ago set the record And

524
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: watching this game and just seeing all the different ways

525
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: that they used Harold Fannin was so exciting. And then

526
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: looking at the box score, Dylan Sampson I thought played

527
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: much better than the box score indicated. It was really

528
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: good as a receiver, didn't have much to work with

529
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: as a runner, but reminded me of like a Geo Bernard,

530
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: but like right off the bat, really was up for everything,

531
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: looked like he belonged. And then finally Carson Schwestinger at

532
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. Like I know we've had a joke about

533
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: Mason Graham. He just didn't really show much this game.

534
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: We'll move on from. We don't know. It wasn't good,

535
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't bad, but Carson Chwessinger goes out there as

536
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: a rookie linebacker and was really running things for the

537
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: Browns like run and chase and looking good. And this

538
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: is the guy who was a walk on at UCLA

539
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: right off the bat, really good signs and that's what

540
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: their quarterback sitting on the sideline.

541
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting a lot of people, and I think

542
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 4: because a lot of us are scratching our heads over this,

543
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: but a lot of people were making the headlines about

544
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks that they drafted right in Dylan Gabriel and

545
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 4: Shoot Sanders, But very very subtly, you know, Andrew Barry.

546
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: Had a really really good draft.

547
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 4: He found multiple starters at key positions that they're gonna need.

548
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 4: And Joe Flacco spoke so glowingly of Harold fannin junior

549
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: all throughout training camp to the point where, you know,

550
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 4: reports on the ground out of there early on, we're saying,

551
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: this guy is getting moved all over the formation. He's

552
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 4: coming out of the backfield, he's in the slot, he's

553
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 4: out wide, he's in motion like he's doing all of

554
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 4: these different things. As a true mismatch player who not

555
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: only can change the looks but also can change the

556
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 4: gaps because if you have a player that big, aligned

557
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 4: out wide and you send him in motion to either

558
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: in the stack or on the other side of the stack,

559
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 4: or even in the backfield, you're automatically changing every single

560
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 4: gap for the defense to defend on the field.

561
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: And that is insane.

562
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 4: If you have Joe Flacco, who's like, oh heck yeah,

563
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: you know, having some fun at his old age.

564
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: Plus just the mental anguish and the shame of giving

565
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: up that big of a day to someone wearing the

566
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: number forty four.

567
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: See he's okay, that's a fullback number. Though god I know,

568
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: and I.

569
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: Think he's wearing it for fun. I don't know.

570
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: I actually believe I read that whatever he wanted was

571
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: not available, and so he ended up with the forty four.

572
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: But they use him as a wildcat, and my favorite

573
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: rep for him was as a full back on the

574
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: goal line blowing open a hole for their rushing touchdown.

575
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: Was that Sampson, I forget who it was, but either way,

576
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: like to be able to do that, but also have

577
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: great feet, great vertical ability, like really pop as an athlete,

578
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: like his feet moved so quickly. And then Schwestinger like

579
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: PFF's not perfect, but he was their fifth highest rated

580
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: linebacker in all of football. Last week he was the

581
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: highest rated player on the Browns. And he is the

582
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: classic like see it and just trigger so quickly, kind

583
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: of like a Navarro Bowman type of player. If everything

584
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: went perfectly well, man, they have a lot to be

585
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: excited about. So I think that's a good omen that

586
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: Actually the Browns are going to be more fun this

587
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: year than people.

588
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: And certainly more fun next year.

589
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: That's it, right, because Andrew Berry might not be around

590
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: to enjoy it.

591
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

592
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you had a really good draft.

593
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: I was like, we got to see it on the field,

594
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: but now we have.

595
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I couldn't remember if I said Andrew or

596
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: accidentally said Adam, which is his brother who just we

597
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 4: just had a feature.

598
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: On in the athletics.

599
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: So so many bears.

600
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it works for the Eagles, right, it works

601
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: for the Eagles. Yeah.

602
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: Okay, my third one, my omen here, And this might

603
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: take a second because I want to get through the

604
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 4: little pieces of this, Greg, But I know that you

605
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: have witnessed over text me totally geeking out about this,

606
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: and so I appreciate the space.

607
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: Big special teams go Yeah.

608
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: Okay, the Vikings icing Monday Nights win over the Bears

609
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: on a situational mastery moment on special teams to me,

610
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: is an omen for the season. First, I want to

611
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: kind of narrate this clip of actually what happened. So

612
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 4: there's two minutes and five seconds on the clock the

613
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, the Vikings were receiving the kickoff up three points.

614
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: Cairo Santos Bears kicker kicks a returnable ball. Ty Chandler looks,

615
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 4: the returner looks right at Kevin O'Connell on the sideline

616
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: who's waving him onward.

617
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: And I loved the call by the booth.

618
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: They described it as a third base coach waving on

619
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: the runner and I love that. So returning this kickoff

620
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: taking it out of the end zone burned out a

621
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: natural stoppage for the two minute warning, so the Bears

622
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: then had to lose their last time out that they

623
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: had instead at a minute forty seven seconds left to

624
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: go after the Vikings ran a play immediately on the

625
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: other side of that, so if the ball would have

626
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: been kicked through the back of the end zone, and

627
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: Johnson did say after the game that this is what

628
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: they had hoped would happen, there would be no runoff, right,

629
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: and then they would have that two minute warning as

630
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: a natural timeout and extra timeout instead of having to

631
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 4: then just burn their last one. Because obviously the Bears,

632
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: who were down three points at the time, really wanted

633
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: to get the ball back, and Ben Johnson estimated they

634
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: would have gotten it back with about a minute left

635
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: if the ball would have gone out of the back

636
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: of the end zone. The other thing is they could

637
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: have kicked it out of bounds if you did not

638
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: if you did not think your kicker, which Bears fans

639
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 4: were really letting me know and my mentions that they

640
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: don't think Kyro Santos could kick it out of the

641
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: back of the end zone from that distance, so they

642
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: were saying, So you could have kicked it out of

643
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: bounds at that point situationally, and all that would have

644
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: happened was still no time run off. You would have

645
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: incurred an a legal penalty in a five yard penalty

646
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: for that, So you would have started at the you

647
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 4: would have allowed the Vikings to start at the forty. Yes,

648
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: there is no rekick in that situation, right, But Ben

649
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: Johnson did not want to give up seemingly did not

650
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: want to give up the five yards and instead wanted

651
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: the ball to go out of the back of the

652
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: end zone. Kevin O'Connell sees this thing floating through the

653
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: air and it's going to be short ty Chandler stares

654
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: him down as he catches it. It's just an epic moment.

655
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: It's such an epic moment of situational awareness. And the

656
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: reason why I have it as an omen greg is

657
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: because we saw the absolute duality and range of what

658
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: the JJ McCarthy experience is going to be for the

659
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings this season, where it started out got awful

660
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Speaker 4: and then ended really really cool. Right, They're going to

661
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Speaker 4: experience that every single game, and they're going to need

662
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Speaker 4: every edge and every advantage that they could possibly have

663
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Speaker 4: this year and possibly get this year, including their defense,

664
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Speaker 4: which really showed up for them, especially in the second

665
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Speaker 4: half because of Brian Flores and that group, and then

666
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: also every tiny situational edge and advantage. And Kevin O'Connell

667
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: really really preaches this internally, has extra meetings for all

668
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Speaker 4: of these things, and that factored in in a huge

669
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Speaker 4: way on Monday night. I thought that was one of

670
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Speaker 4: the plays the game.

671
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Speaker 1: It was great and that was a great job narrating it.

672
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: And you think back to the Kirk Cousins, you know,

673
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: great year with the Vikings, and then you think about

674
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: last year and then this year, and I don't think

675
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: it's a mistake that they have been great in these

676
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: one score games and great situationally. Now I think it

677
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: is fair to point out it was almost a bigger

678
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: blunder by the Bears and ultimately execution and not understanding

679
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Speaker 1: that that was not an easy thing for Cairo Santos

680
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: to do. Then it even was like a great play

681
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 1: by Minnesota because we were going back and forth and

682
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Speaker 1: I was curious. I was like, well, if they must

683
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Speaker 1: have told them it was obvious he had to take

684
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Speaker 1: it out. And Kevin O'Connell did confirm that that, like, yes,

685
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: the special teams coach had gone over it with everyone. Yes,

686
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Speaker 1: to take it out at the time, But who is

687
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: the returner again, ty Chandler, you know he's not their

688
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: primary returner?

689
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Speaker 4: His face, yeah, look at his face. He's not the

690
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: primary returner.

691
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Speaker 1: They have two back there, and they tried to avoid

692
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Speaker 1: the returner who had a great night, and so they

693
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: kicked it specifically trying to kick it at him and

694
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Speaker 1: make him make a mistakes. So even though they had

695
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Speaker 1: gone over it ahead of time, he sort of panics

696
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: in the moment and isn't quite sure. And a great

697
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: job by O'Connell to be like, come on out, bro.

698
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I'm saying.

699
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Speaker 4: It's like, I don't want to really get on the

700
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Speaker 4: Bears too much about losing the situational advantage.

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Speaker 1: I do think I did kick it out of bounce

702
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's calling for it, Troy Aikman's calling for if

703
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Speaker 1: everyone's first guessing you can get on him.

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Speaker 2: There was a huge mistake.

705
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Speaker 4: Yes, it was a huge mistake, but it's almost like, Okay,

706
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Speaker 4: you have to under you have to understand are you

707
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Speaker 4: willing to like you have to be the coach who's

708
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: willing to see five yards to make a less ultimately

709
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: a less risky play. And that's a big lesson for

710
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson, I think in this case. But that's what

711
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying about this on the on the Viking side,

712
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: it is a simple executionable thing, right, But if they

713
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: don't do it right, then you're only up three points

714
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: and the Bears defense is coming after you, you know,

715
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Speaker 4: and it's I just think that this was it's the

716
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: little tiny slivers of moments. Yes, that's an omen for

717
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 4: what the Vikings will need to do to win.

718
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: Games this year.

719
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Speaker 1: It decides so many games in the and the Bears

720
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Speaker 1: figure they just got a head coach that's gonna be

721
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Speaker 1: better at these sort of situations. But on Night one,

722
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: with one decision, he made a mistake and yeah, Peyton

723
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Speaker 1: Manning on the Manning Cast, I didn't see this at

724
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Speaker 1: the time because I'm prepping for our Monday night show where.

725
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Speaker 2: Fielding on getting ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Hinge text for me.

727
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Speaker 1: That I missed until after, but I saw him and yeah,

728
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Speaker 1: like he was screaming and yelling before it even happened

729
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Speaker 1: that you have to kick it out of bounds. You

730
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Speaker 1: have to kick it out of bounds, not even through

731
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Speaker 1: the end zone. Just just make sure to do it.

732
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Speaker 1: And they did not, and so lesson learned. But great

733
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Speaker 1: job and a great moment there.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell just seems like he would be a fun

736
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Speaker 1: coach to play for it, and they always have great

737
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Speaker 1: moments in the locker room. I saw this, and I

738
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Speaker 1: just figure, if we're talking O'Connell. Let's get his postgame

739
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Speaker 1: locker room into the show.

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Speaker 5: Not if this.

741
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Speaker 6: Happens, this feeling that we have right now does not

742
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Speaker 6: happen without one other guy, all right, did not go away.

743
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Speaker 6: Any of us wanted this guy, all right. I could

744
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Speaker 6: tell from the jump he was poised. He was poised.

745
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Speaker 6: But this guy didn't quit me. And you always thought

746
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 6: he would figure it out. Two pasting touchdowns and a

747
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: Russian touchdown, all this.

748
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Speaker 1: Stuff entered JJ o ocar losing his ever loving mind

749
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Speaker 1: and everyone.

750
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Speaker 2: Just so fired up about it.

751
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Speaker 1: I like it though, because Kevin O'Connell is so long winded,

752
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: and you know, game recognizes his game.

753
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: It took him like four minutes to even get.

754
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Speaker 1: To the big JJ McCarthy finish, but you could tell

755
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: he was saving it all up for JJ McCarthy last.

756
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: And you did see the true enjoyment of all the

757
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: teammates happy for JJ, and in that.

758
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: Moment, yeah, it was cool.

759
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 4: And Kevin was like living and dying with every single

760
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 4: play that was happening. And you could see after JJ

761
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: McCarthy ran in that touchdown, Kevin O'Connell, I thought a

762
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 4: vein in his neck week and a burst. They zoomed

763
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: in on him celebrating on the sideline as if he

764
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Speaker 4: had been the one to run in the touchdown. It's

765
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: like former quarterback trying to be the guy for this

766
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: young quarterback that Kevin never had. He's been open about that,

767
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 4: and I just think, man, we ran through the range

768
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: of emotions for each team throughout that game.

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Speaker 3: That was a classic.

770
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: In my mind, He's.

771
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Speaker 1: Had so many quarterbacks, but this is the first one

772
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Speaker 1: that's like, that's his, Yeah, that's his, it's his long

773
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: term and this is there can only be like one

774
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: first game, you know, And so I think you're absolutely right.

775
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: It was a little extra and he's all about the

776
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and fixing the mistakes that he must believe that

777
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: the Patriots and Jets made back in the day with

778
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: him when they had total total lack of faith at

779
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: him and they cut him pretty quickly after making him

780
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: a third round pick behind Tom Brady and Matt Castle.

781
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that was a tough situation.

782
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: Let's wrap up very quickly with one that we went

783
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: and checked back in the Omen committee decided, actually, bad

784
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: omens can happen all the way back in training camp.

785
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: It was some sound from Mike McDaniel, that was really

786
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: capped off during Week one.

787
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: But this is this is back in training camp. Let's listen.

788
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Speaker 5: Good morning, false, great morning, let's go.

789
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: Because of another day closer to death.

790
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Speaker 1: I don't know why that would make it a great morning,

791
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, being one closer to death unless you're like

792
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: really into the afterlife. Maybe he's a man of faith,

793
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: that's possible. But yeah, that seemed to bounce around your

794
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: head when we were thinking about this week one and

795
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: what could be kind of a season long death of

796
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Miami Dolphins. From a football side

797
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: of it, I think it's that first drive. I think

798
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: it was the fourth play of the game, or so

799
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: to a tongue of Iloa throws an interception over Tyreek

800
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Hill's head and they're miscommunication. This was nothing more than

801
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: just missing a pass that Tua just sailed into the

802
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: waiting arms of a Colts defender and it just felt

803
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: like a bad moment. I mean, it was a great

804
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: interception celebration, so I enjoyed that by cam bineam, But yes,

805
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: that was a silver line. It was just like, feels

806
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: like this whole off season has been a bad omen

807
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins.

808
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, an omen of your in a rumaissance too that

809
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 4: you've been talking up. But I would say that that

810
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: clip has stuck in my head because I do know

811
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel to be sort of a dark humor kind

812
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: of guy, a sarcastic guy, a dry humor like sort

813
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 4: of one liner guy as well. But in that one,

814
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 4: he did not look like he was having any fun

815
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: with it at all, and a little bit a little

816
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: it just has stuck in my head, and I'm like, oh, interesting,

817
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: oh man, but why would that be a good day?

818
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: You know, I know it's been.

819
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 4: The well, it's like a nihilistic sort of sense of humor,

820
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: except it's just like ooh.

821
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: But also, you might have a year we will.

822
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: Be released from all this pain that I'm in now

823
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: before I'm just back to like calling plays for the

824
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six Green Bay Packers or something.

825
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 4: Someone my colleague at the athletic Ted Wind goes, wait

826
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: hear me out, twenty twenty six Detroit Lions offensive coordinator

827
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: might be right.

828
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: Every everyone you know is gonna have their Dolphins jokes

829
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: and to start the game that way, for Xavi and

830
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: Howard to be in the mix on a lot of

831
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: these plays and say he gave some help knowing their

832
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: playbook the former Dolphin. It just it's what you just

833
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: don't want out of week one, which is all the

834
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: negativity that they've had around them the whole offseason. Within

835
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: literally a fraction of place, we talked about the first

836
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: drive by Tyler Warren and like a new day starting

837
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: with Indianapolis, and the total opposite was happening on the

838
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: other side, which is like, wait, this is like last

839
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: year but totally even worse. Maybe they turn around in

840
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: week two and we're wrong and that it's not a

841
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: bad omen omen season is now officially over. What a

842
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: ride it was, it was, it was great. I want

843
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: to take a quick break. I do want to tell

844
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: everyone listening. You know, you'll hear some hats. We'll pay

845
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: the bills, but right on the other side of the break,

846
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: you do not want to miss what Patrick claibon has

847
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: cooking for us. I don't know what it is exactly,

848
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: but he sent in a two minute long voice memo

849
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: that I'm just ready for so that that's going to

850
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: come up right after the break.

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Speaker 8: A new NFL season means a new chance to see

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Speaker 8: promos for a new run of episodic crime dramas. Do

853
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Speaker 8: we think today's NFL Daily Crew can spot the reel

854
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Speaker 8: among the fake? Let's give them some options. Number one

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Speaker 8: Crime Line features Gerald Hickson, a sarcastic detective with a

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Speaker 8: keen eye for details, navigating the organized crime scene near

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Speaker 8: the Port of Seattle, Washington, all while continuing a decade's

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Speaker 8: old search for a sister that went missing in his childhood.

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Speaker 8: Number two ten to four features nine one one operator

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861
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 8: clear his own name, elects to take matters into his

862
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 8: own hands to provide victims with their chance at his

863
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 8: own brand of justice. Number three Sheriff Country features Mickey Fox,

864
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 8: a straight shooting sheriff in the small rural town of Edgewater, California.

865
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 8: She must balance the demands of law enforcement with the

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00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 8: complexities of motherhood, community politics, and a past that won't

867
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Speaker 8: stay buried. Number four FBI New Organs from award winner

868
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 8: Dick Wolf and the team behind FBI and Law and Order.

869
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 8: FBI New Organs is a high stakes drama focusing on

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00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 8: the trainees at Quantico who are thrust into service after

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00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 8: a sleeper cell is revealed the operating within the United

872
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 8: States government. Those are your options. One of them is real?

873
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: Oh, which one is it? Greg?

874
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: Which one?

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Speaker 1: My favorite thing about this is he wanted to just

876
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Speaker 1: play this game off air the other day and we

877
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: didn't have time, and that he got to use his

878
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: great voiceover skills. This, This is amazing. It is one

879
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of the new NFL season seeing

880
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: what the new shows are on CBS and Fox and

881
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: not quite believing them. Okay, I'm gonna do the process

882
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: of elimination. You can try to assist me here however

883
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: you want, or you just completely disagree. FBI new origins

884
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: with the Quantico sleeper cell that had a little Claybond

885
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: flair to it, and that's so I'm eliminating.

886
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 3: Okay, So because of your knowledge of Patrick.

887
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: It just it almost felt, Yeah, that one felt a

888
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: little too tongue in cheek for me. So I'm going

889
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: to eliminate that one. That leaves us with three, and honestly,

890
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: they all work equally to me. There is something about

891
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: Share of Country.

892
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: That just hits a lot of demographics.

893
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: Greg a female shaff balancing work, being a mom and

894
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: a pass that won't stay buried. I can just I

895
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: can just feel that in the pitch meeting, the nine

896
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: to one to one operator going vigilantes is insane, but

897
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: just insane that it might be real.

898
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: It is just like one shots of him driving a

899
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: van around everywhere.

900
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: For some reason.

901
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: It was the name and crime line which he decided

902
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: to use, Gerald Hickson, which I didn't buy. We're gonna

903
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: go Gerald Hickson, I don't think so, the detective looking

904
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: for his sister, among other things.

905
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 2: I am going Sheriff Country.

906
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: As guests, So you're guessing sharriff.

907
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm going Sheriff Country.

908
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go FBI New Origins.

909
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: Oh my, that's insane, you might do you know the answer?

910
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: No, I don't know that.

911
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: There's no way FBI New Origins is the answer. I

912
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: don't know who is on a microphone back there. Maybe

913
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: it's Quab, maybe it's Eric. Please tell us what is

914
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: the answer.

915
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 7: So we're gonna go with Greg's guest because Claybon sent

916
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 7: me two separate audio files, a right answer and a

917
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 7: wrong answer, so we'll go with We might just play

918
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 7: both just so you can hear more.

919
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: Patrick.

920
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 7: So we'll go with Sheriff Country. Yes's answer, and here

921
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 7: you go.

922
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 8: Great job team. You're a crack team of investigators who

923
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 8: not only pay attention to the game on the field,

924
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 8: but the promotional materials that make football so much fun.

925
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 8: Let's go if you see something, watch something, see you

926
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 8: on Wednesday.

927
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 7: And then, of course I mean again, just to get

928
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 7: some more Patrick Claiborne on the show, Here's the Wrong file.

929
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 8: Oh no, unfortunately that answer is incorrect. It's important to

930
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 8: remember that despite the fast paced action of NFL football,

931
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 8: as well as the demands of facilitating one of the

932
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 8: top football podcasts on the planet, we still need to

933
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 8: pay attention to the promotional materials to make football so

934
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 8: much fun. Remember if you see something, watch something, see

935
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 8: you on Wednesday.

936
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: I love you, Patrick, You're a beauty.

937
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 1: And I got to say, after getting just wiped out

938
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: in my picks against Cynthia on this show against you

939
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: Patrick on game debut, it all doesn't matter because I

940
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: nailed this. I feel so good about myself after getting

941
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: the Sheriff Country.

942
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: I had no previous.

943
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: Knowledge Sheriff Country. Like the internal struggle of what is

944
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: it law? Motherhood and a pass that won't stay buried?

945
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: You thought you thought you could get me Patrick that

946
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: that makes me happier than almost anything that's happened to

947
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: me today.

948
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: So that says a lot about means. Let's talk about

949
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. What a week two? I know, Thursday

950
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: Night Football game technically the first Thursday Night football game

951
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: because the first game is counted as a kickoff and

952
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: they let NBC do it because it's part of the

953
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: television practice, you know, package, So it's not the first

954
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football game. And I think that's why they

955
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: gave maybe the best, certainly one of the best games

956
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: on the TNF schedule to Prime video. Right here, Commanders

957
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: at Packers. The Packers are favored by three and a half,

958
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: and we will have Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreet on

959
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: the call. Man just start anywhere, but two of the

960
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: most dominant teams in week one.

961
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: I was just curious.

962
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: I know, DVOA means absolutely almost nothing after week one,

963
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: but I was like, I bet they'll be two of

964
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: the hiring teams. They got to be, and they were.

965
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: They were number one and number three. The Commanders were

966
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: tops and the Packers were number three.

967
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: I was surprised.

968
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: The Commanders were so good, and then I realized, like

969
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: that offense was incredibly efficient last week, and the defense

970
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: did whatever they wanted.

971
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: Well, it was incredibly efficient. They were a little loose

972
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: at times. I'm really curious to see what this is

973
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: going to look like against this Jeff Hafley Green Bay

974
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: Packers defense that looked really, really good against the Detroit

975
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: Lions to open the season this past week. Like you know,

976
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 4: Jayde and Daniels, I have no doubt that this is

977
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 4: just week one, getting you know, getting to the line

978
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: of scrimmage, getting the you know, all the timing right,

979
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 4: a couple of penalties, a couple overthrows especially, you know,

980
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: he and Terry McLaurin are still kind of getting their

981
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: feet under them as a connection, you know, after Terry

982
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: missed so much a training camp. Deebo Samuel was used

983
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: a lot, but this offense at times just a little bit.

984
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, Giants defense, the defensive front was was stout

985
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: and all of that, but just looked a little bit

986
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 4: just loose, and I don't expect we'll see that moving forward.

987
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: I think this is when they really start to turn

988
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: it on. This is when you start to see the

989
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 4: commanders as the Commanders that we know them to be.

990
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 4: But I am very curious to see what the strategy

991
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 4: and what the plan is going to be for this

992
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: Packers defense now featuring Micah Parsons. I don't know if

993
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: you guys have heard the name recently.

994
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, it's a great test for the Commanders.

995
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: But you know, watching that game back, I thought the

996
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: Giants line played really well, and that just to me

997
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: gives great credit to the Commanders, who ultimately, like were

998
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: one of the most efficient running teams in the NFL.

999
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: They had a million penalties and that's yeah.

1000
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. Just a little loose at times,

1001
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: but on.

1002
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: A per play basis, they just kept getting out of,

1003
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, problematic situations. And Laramie Tunsel was awesome in

1004
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: that game. He really did a good job. Like it's

1005
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: the reason you sign him. Josh Connelly I thought was solid.

1006
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: I actually thought he competed really well, like in tough

1007
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: matchups like you're going against Dexter Lawrence. For the most part,

1008
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: they ran the ball, like how they ended up with

1009
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: over two hundred rushing yards, Like what more do you

1010
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: want there? And then for the most part, I thought

1011
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels was protected well, like the couple times that

1012
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: he got sacked, it felt like it was a little

1013
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: bit more of him, like being too far back in

1014
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: the pocket and said holding onto the ball. And he

1015
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: said that after the game, he said, two of the

1016
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: three sacks were on me and.

1017
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 3: Some of that it's Brian Burns.

1018
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: They were sort of in this like one on one

1019
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 4: battle at certain times during the you know, during a

1020
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 4: couple of these quarters where Brian Burns would get to

1021
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 4: him and then Jade and Daniels would flush out and

1022
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 4: then run by Brian Burns. And at one point he

1023
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 4: stared him down as he was running by him, after

1024
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: Brian Burns had gotten two sacks on him. And so

1025
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 4: I just think that this is like you know that

1026
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: was week one. It's sort of a flush out. Yes,

1027
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 4: this is when we're going to actually see the full

1028
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 4: powers of the commanders because, like I said again, Terry

1029
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 4: mcl was not super involved.

1030
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: He will be moving forward Deebo.

1031
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 4: The plan for Deebo, I think stays like this was

1032
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 4: a really solid, versatile, multiple plan for him. And then

1033
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 4: their run game looked great. Bill who was getting like

1034
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: Bill Ny the science guy. Chance you could hear over

1035
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 4: the broadcast, you know, and has like massive media scrumbs

1036
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 4: around his locker every day because the legend of Bill grows.

1037
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: It's a fun group. They're still doing everything that they

1038
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: did last year with the tight ends zach Ertz and

1039
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: John Baits, Zackertz being the red zone threat, John Bates

1040
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 4: being that sort of backside blocker and the run blocker

1041
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: that they need, you know, Greg, I actually also think though,

1042
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: so I thought Jordan Love played amazing. I thought he

1043
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: had an incredible game for the Packers against Detroit, and

1044
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 4: I am really interested to see what the Commander's defense

1045
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 4: looks like against a competent offense, because the Commander's defense

1046
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 4: looked really improved in every phase. Linebackers were already good,

1047
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 4: but in every phase upfront they looked bigger. They were

1048
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: stopping the run well. Giants could not move the.

1049
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: Ball at all.

1050
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: All pressure points of Russell Wilson's pocket were being affected,

1051
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: whether it's the interior, the exterior. They couldn't do anything.

1052
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 4: And yes, that's part of it. They were missing Andrew

1053
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 4: Thomas and it's the Giants and they just are struggling

1054
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: to be cohesive on offense.

1055
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: That's part of it.

1056
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: But this Commander's defense, like legitimately and truly looked like

1057
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: an improved group.

1058
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: I totally agree, and I think that is the bigger test,

1059
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: Like is the Washington defense that improved or was it

1060
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: just about the opposition because they just could not have

1061
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: had a better week one in terms of their offseason moves,

1062
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: which I questioned, like Javon Kinla had one of the

1063
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: best games I think of his entire career. Marshawn Lattimore,

1064
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, he's going up against Malik Neighbors for a

1065
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: lot of that game, had a couple penalties, but he

1066
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: looked faster, he looked healthier.

1067
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: They've been talking about Jeremy Reeves.

1068
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: He's always been this great special teamer, now actually playing

1069
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: at safety. And you mentioned like the pass rush as

1070
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: a group I think was effective overall. But now they're

1071
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 1: going up against the Packers offensive line, which normally is great.

1072
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: But Zach Tom got hurt in that game. Aaron Banks,

1073
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: their big free agent signing, got hurt in that game

1074
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: when Tom was knocked out. They actually brought in Darien Canard,

1075
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: who they just signed or just traded for rather from

1076
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: Philadelphia instead of one of their young players, Anthony Belton,

1077
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: who got a couple snaps, but basically, you know, if

1078
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: you're counting on potentially two backups there for the Packers starting,

1079
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: that's at least on the table against this improved group.

1080
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: Von Miller was really the only one who was pretty quiet.

1081
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: But I think you made a great point that as

1082
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: a group, they really worked well and looked disciplined. And

1083
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a really big test

1084
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: because we just saw Dan Quinn coach up one of

1085
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: the most consistent defenses in the league three straight years

1086
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: before coaching up one of the worst defense in the

1087
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: league last year. So there is a lot of reason

1088
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: to believe that with this talent that they could be

1089
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: a lot better this year.

1090
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked like a part to whole defense like

1091
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 4: last year. I think where we got really excited, and

1092
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 4: I think rightfully so, is with the play of Bobby

1093
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 4: Wagner and Frankie Luvu. Those guys pop, and they were

1094
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: had to be by nature of how the defense was,

1095
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: but also they were all over the field and they

1096
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 4: really flashed, and Frankie Luvu was getting sent on every

1097
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: kind of pressure you could ever imagine and having to cover,

1098
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 4: and Bobby Wagner was getting sent on pressure and having

1099
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: to help stop the run because they couldn't do it

1100
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 4: up front. And so but this this looks more like

1101
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 4: like a functional, full picture of what it's supposed to

1102
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: look like when it's not necessarily like you have one

1103
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 4: position group that has to do everything. It's everybody has

1104
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 4: to do a piece of something. That's what this group

1105
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: looked way more like. And yes, again caveat week one,

1106
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: caveat Giants offense, but in terms of being where they

1107
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: needed to be, being, you know, rushing as one group,

1108
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: rushing as a part to hole, like I said, and

1109
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 4: playing the run as a part to hole, to me

1110
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: it looked really positive.

1111
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously this will be a much bigger challenge

1112
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: than you mentioned. Jordan Love, and to me, we're kind

1113
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: of seeing the old Jordan Love in that game. And

1114
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: by old I mean like when you first came into

1115
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: the league.

1116
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: Well, on's back on quarterback Island.

1117
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, where it's just a lot of great throws.

1118
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: That first touchdown to Tucker Craft there was such a

1119
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: little window there. Oh, it was such a good the

1120
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: bomb to Romeo Dobbs that Dobbs dropped, but it was

1121
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: an unreal throw that. The bomb to Jaden Reid was

1122
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: all fantastic, but ultimately like he didn't throw the ball

1123
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: that much. And he did almost gift wrap an interception

1124
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: on a play where he freaked out a little bit

1125
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: to Alex Angeloni and held onto the ball and he

1126
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: did literally throw a pick six which was a great

1127
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: play by Brian Branch and it was called back by penalty,

1128
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: but the penalty had nothing to do with the play.

1129
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: And so it's something I've tracked with him on PFF,

1130
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: especially like when he first came in the league, he

1131
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: had the highest percentage of big time throws, the highest

1132
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: percentage of turnover worthy plays. I thought last year he

1133
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: really rained both back in where we didn't see as

1134
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: many high highs or as many low lows. And this

1135
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: game was kind of back to being like gunslinger love

1136
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see that against this I

1137
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: think improved Commander's defense with Amos and Igbinoghany was making

1138
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: plays Like there's a lot of good players if you

1139
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: just add them up, they just didn't play well together

1140
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: last year.

1141
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tom Brady, who could not say Igbinogany's last name.

1142
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: It's a tough one to save his life. But this

1143
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 4: is going to be interesting because I have to think

1144
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 4: that we see flashes of this obviously, and we certainly

1145
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 4: saw it last year too, But I think Matt Lafleur

1146
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 4: gets the tight ends a lot more involved with the

1147
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: linebackers in conflict, and I think you see more Matthew

1148
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 4: Gold in this game too, and some of those gadget

1149
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 4: types of things that really again stressed the second layer.

1150
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 4: The best players on the field still are those linebackers

1151
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 4: for the commanders, and so to put the guys who

1152
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 4: they're so you know, basically controlling traffic at any given point,

1153
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 4: to put them in conflict with a lot of motions,

1154
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: a lot of using different players out of their traditional position,

1155
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: putting them in sort of these hybrid roles. I think

1156
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 4: we're going to see a little bit more of that

1157
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 4: and we'll see how it goes. And on the other side,

1158
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 4: Jeff Haffley is starting to cook a little bit.

1159
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: I think, well he's got Edrian Cooper. I want you

1160
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: to talk about him in a second. But it's really

1161
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: interesting because I think people looked at that first Jayden

1162
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: and Daniels game and thought he was like a little off, like,

1163
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, I missed a few throws by a little bit,

1164
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: and he.

1165
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 4: Did miss that's fair, but it's two touchdown. I'm not

1166
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 4: I'm the biggest Jade Daniels fan there is. He missed

1167
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: too what would have been touchdowns that he's going to

1168
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 4: hit at any other point in the season.

1169
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: Right and in one of them's Terry McLaurin, and like,

1170
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: he missed those throws. But I thought it was a

1171
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: good game from Jaden Daniels because I think you could

1172
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: already start to see which is crazy, the year one

1173
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: to two growth.

1174
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: The game just seems so slow for him.

1175
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, our friend Ali Connelly was funny about like hunting matchups,

1176
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: and I really see it in the Lamar and Lamar

1177
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: is the right confer him ultimately in terms of like

1178
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: the way they're running their offense and the way the

1179
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: run I think sets up the rest of the running game,

1180
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: the way the run sets up the past. But when

1181
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: he is moving around, scrambling, trying to manipulate the defense

1182
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: to open up holes, the game is so slow for him,

1183
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: and he just seems so mature beyond his years that

1184
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: that that's really exciting. And that's the type of thing

1185
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: Jeff athlete can't really plan for no one can and

1186
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: that beats like good plans.

1187
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's gonna be really interesting because you do

1188
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 4: have obviously there's Michael Parsons, who we expect his his

1189
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 4: workload to increase a little bit. Dan Quinn says his

1190
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 4: plan would be if he were coaching Michael Parsons, to.

1191
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: Rest him, to sit him.

1192
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 4: So obviously a little you know, mindgate mind warfare there

1193
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 4: shooting across the across the country there. But I think

1194
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 4: that it's funny because like Jaden Daniels has no fear.

1195
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: I think Michael Parsons is going is a player. Obviously

1196
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 4: you circle on the defensive plan, but like he has

1197
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 4: no fear. I gotta I want people to go back

1198
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 4: and watch that play again where he racees Brian Burns

1199
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 4: around to the edge and then runs by him. He's

1200
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 4: staring him in the eyes like it was so like

1201
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 4: veteran quarterback, Like it was so I'm not afraid of you,

1202
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 4: even though you just took me down twice, Like it

1203
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: was such a cool play that you know, you have

1204
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 4: guys like Micah Parsons, you have Edrin Cooper, who is

1205
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: one of the best young players on that defense. In fact,

1206
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons was telling the reporters in Green Bay that

1207
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 4: he drafted him in his IDP fantasy league. WHOA, yeah,

1208
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: my colleague Mat Schneideman captured some great sound and some

1209
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: great comments from Micah Parsons today because he said he

1210
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 4: edgenern Cooper scored thirty six points for him in IDP Fantasy.

1211
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: Because Micah Parsons like couldn't draft himself, so he's like

1212
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 4: looking for a player to draft and picks up Cooper

1213
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: And it's true. I mean, he's one of the bright

1214
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: young players on this defense. He's an outstanding player.

1215
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: You watch him.

1216
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: There's a play this last game where he sheds, he

1217
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: reads and sheds emotion like so perfectly to where he's

1218
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 4: helping force the play wide. They wanted to cut up

1219
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 4: field at a certain point and he helps force the

1220
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 4: entire play wide and it's all read and react and

1221
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: like shedding unnecessary like garbage shoot stuff that he doesn't

1222
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: that's trying to throw him off his timing and still

1223
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 4: making the play like it's he It's incredible. It's going

1224
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 4: to be so fun watching those two guys.

1225
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: Play together and how they help. You know, the people

1226
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: around on them.

1227
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: I think they can leave kway Walker in a more

1228
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: just like point and shoot type of role instead of

1229
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: asking him to do too much because Edrin Cooper is

1230
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: now doing more that now Lucas Fannas is finally rushing

1231
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: more from the interior, which which makes more sense in

1232
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: part because Parsons is there.

1233
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: It is all like really setting up.

1234
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: I think the matchup in the slot, if there's one

1235
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: guy to pick on with the Packers, it's probably their

1236
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: slot defender Jevon Bullard, And so that's the matchup with Deebo,

1237
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: who played a lot in the slot, or zach Ertz

1238
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: who still is getting it done. And man, Deebo's first

1239
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: week just made that look like Wow, as long as

1240
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: he stays healthy, which is a big if. The way

1241
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: they used him on like the deep overs and in

1242
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: real ways that I got to end around. I think

1243
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: they kind of said stop doing in Kyle, you know,

1244
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: with in San Francisco a little bit, they'd stopped having

1245
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: him be a real wide receiver and they used them

1246
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: both ways. I think Cliff had a couple special running

1247
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: plays with Daniels and Debo in the red zone that

1248
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: we're exciting. This is gonna be an awesome game three

1249
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: and a half points. You picked Thursday night or Friday

1250
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: night rather really well. Last week you picked the Chargers

1251
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: to upset the Chiefs. So who do you got this time?

1252
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 3: I got the Packers this time?

1253
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: I do as well.

1254
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Although I would, you know, if I was into that

1255
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: sort of thing, and I can't be because I work

1256
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: for the NFL, I would what I call thread the needle,

1257
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: which is I would still take the Commander three and

1258
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: a half points at this point in the season where

1259
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: I think these are two good teams and we don't

1260
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: know that much about either one of them, I would

1261
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: just take free points, and I would take the free points,

1262
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: but I would take the Packers to win. Fun see

1263
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: you next Tuesday show. I know the trick is, though

1264
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: I won't see you next Tuesday, I'll see you tomorrow Wednesday,

1265
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: and then i'll see you Sunday.

1266
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, you haven't gotten sick of me yet, Greg,

1267
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 3: just a little.

1268
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: Not at all.

1269
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: The show is just peaking because we have Jordan Rodrigue

1270
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: and her Harold fan in season. You know, good omen

1271
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: for this podcast. She's just dominating in a variety of roles.

1272
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: Just something to keep an eye on Tomorrow. We love

1273
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: the previous show, our favor show of the week at

1274
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: least for me, and we wanted to expand it really

1275
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: and be able to talk about every team even more.

1276
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: So you'll see that in your feed tomorrow in a

1277
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: couple shows, but you will get every single team covered,

1278
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: every single game and even more preview action.

1279
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: So we are really excited about that.

1280
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: And you can also check us out of course on

1281
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: YouTube and the NFL channel, Fast channel, free over whatever

1282
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: it is television.

1283
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: That's it. I need to go to sleep, No, we

1284
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: need to get ready for the previous show.

1285
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 3: Omen season is over, Open season.

1286
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: Is over, but football is back. We were I was

1287
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: gonna stop saying that, but you said me