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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Golds in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. Yeah, post post draft drive,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to do a mock draft today.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to talk about we.

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Speaker 2: Could do it all too early. Look at next year's.

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Speaker 3: I'm such a Sickoh, I'm actually interested to look at

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Speaker 3: those names. It's the first time you like get exposed

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Speaker 3: the name.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's what we're gonna do. We would just do

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Speaker 2: thirty two quarterbacks in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Because it's always a better quarterback last night year. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's crazy. I mean, now we know where these players landed.

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Speaker 3: It's not like, well, what if they do this and

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Speaker 3: do this and what if he goes here and you know,

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Speaker 3: shor Sanders in the first round and blah blah blah

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Speaker 3: blah blah.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers come out of the twenty twenty five draft

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Speaker 2: with Derek Harmon, defensive tackle out of Oregon in the

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Speaker 2: first round. Heard that a few times here.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Then they drafted Caleb Johnson, the running back out of Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Heard that a few times here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, usually not.

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Speaker 2: The surprise pick to me was Jack Sawyer in round four.

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Speaker 3: I understand it more now the value that happened, but

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Speaker 3: that's definitely the most shocking pick to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the value was definitely there. Yeah yeah yeah Black

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Speaker 2: or yeah yeah Black?

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Speaker 3: Why yea?

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Speaker 2: Why yeah yeah, defensive tackle out of Iowa. In the

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Speaker 2: fifth round. We took him several times. That neighbor, Will Howard,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback out of Ohio State. We took him in

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Speaker 2: our mock drafts several times. Carson Bruner in round seven,

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Speaker 2: they traded back before they took Black and got another

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Speaker 2: seventh round pick. Took Carson Bruner, the linebacker out of Washington,

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Speaker 2: and then the other rounds of him. Pick was Dante Kent,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and frankly, we didn't do a whole lot of

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Speaker 3: chatting about the seventh round picks. That's often the case

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Speaker 3: it's pretty late in the draft. But one of those

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Speaker 3: last names is pretty familiar. They say the least and

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Speaker 3: I don't say it's a predictable draft, but I think

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Speaker 3: we had a really good feel going in.

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Speaker 2: Well they were going to do. It was predictable if

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Speaker 2: you listen to this show lot.

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Speaker 3: Right right, We got a pretty good feel for what

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Speaker 3: they were doing. The Sawyer thing I didn't see coming,

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Speaker 3: but like you said, I thought that was value. I

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Speaker 3: mean there were times big on him in the second round,

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Speaker 2: There were a lot of times when we would take

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Speaker 2: an extra edge rusher because later in the draft, right,

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Speaker 2: because of value, because of value, and it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this guy's going to play special teams for you, is

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Speaker 2: going to he can.

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Speaker 3: Do some stuff, but you never want to get weak there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, if you had a second round grade on

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Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer, even a third round grade on Jack Sawyer

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Speaker 2: and he's still available in the fourth round, right, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what it comes down to. And we

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Speaker 3: can talk about all these guys specific fits and we

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Speaker 3: will to no end, and we got mini camp around

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Speaker 3: the corner, and maybe a quarterback signed at some point.

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Speaker 3: But oh no, I think it was a real solid draft.

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Speaker 3: And I urge you greatly don't forget. You got DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 3: and you got DK Metcalf. Yeah, let's just say hypothetical,

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Speaker 3: you have all your picks, get draft Harmon in round one,

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Speaker 2: Extremely excited and losing your Marbley.

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Speaker 3: You know, just because it happened weeks and months ago

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Speaker 3: doesn't change who's going to be here in camp.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know we talked about this at length

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Speaker 2: despite every time the Steelers pick came up, because there

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Speaker 2: was a certain quarterback who was still available, right every

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Speaker 3: Hate that the biggest story of the draft is Shad

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Speaker 2: It just the draft just didn't align itself to take

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Speaker 3: You really got that feeling being in the facility those

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Speaker 3: at quarterback. I think they have pretty good, pretty good idea,

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Speaker 2: Going to happen there. And that's one of the things

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Speaker 2: when you look at the draft grades and the people

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Speaker 2: Like, don't don't knock their draft if you like the

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I've seen a lot of write ups and conversations about, well,

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Speaker 3: we I'm almost certain we said this like in the

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Speaker 3: believe if Rogers were assigned a month ago, they make

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Speaker 3: the exact same draft. Draft is the same way, exact same.

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Speaker 2: Drafts, right, I mean, you got your defensive lineman in

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Speaker 3: Was a need. Yeah, they were going to draft a

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Speaker 2: They took to defensive linemen, like we thought they were

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Speaker 2: I'll take a throw a flyer on a seventh round

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Speaker 2: Then you add your developmental quarterback, a guy that's going

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Speaker 3: Hey you take a bite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you take a couple of guys in

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe there are some traits there. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: Nor so I think they helped themselves.

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Speaker 2: Sebastian Castro is a player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like I thought he'd get drafted.

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Speaker 3: That's fine if he makes a roster or contributes it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to maybe a developmental small school offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I like what they've done here. They've set

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Speaker 2: But it looks like they filled all the holes with

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Speaker 3: And I bet they're not done. And there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: Quarterback side quarterback aside I understand quarterback is a massive No.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's the biggest thing on your on your

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Speaker 3: All these a lot of these draft grades. I had

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Speaker 3: You got to weigh your options and the value, what's

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Speaker 2: If they would have taken Sanders, for example, instead of

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Speaker 3: Did he become a better prospect on that right? More

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Speaker 3: valuable all of a sudden? Right, I mean we get

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Speaker 3: shodoor Sanders draft. I mean, cam Ward's a great prospect.

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Speaker 3: Not great enough to be might end up being good player.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, right, I haven't met him yet.

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Speaker 3: Right, the Browns have four quarterbacks. Who's gonna be the starter?

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Speaker 3: It's not fantasy football. You're just not adding names.

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Speaker 3: Like, who's this guy? Right? You know? Yeah, Hey, better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, very good. And he was. He was.

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Speaker 2: He was worth it.

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Speaker 3: I do. I do. And this draft has been way

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Speaker 3: And those the guys that you would expect, as is

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Speaker 3: Warren Sharp's a big analytical guy and blah, blah blah. Well,

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Speaker 3: there's a consensus board out there. Take Mels and Todd, right,

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Speaker 2: Picks there later than the thought. So let's do it,

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Speaker 3: Right because injuries hit. Contracts aren't very long in this league.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, let's get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale LOLLI. You're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Right after this, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

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Speaker 2: Radio, and we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt as I promise. We'll go

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Speaker 2: over the Steelers' roster as it now appears following this weekend,

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Speaker 2: and we'll start with the wide receiver position. You got

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, George Pickens, you still have Calvin, Austin, Roman

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Speaker 3: Two, Yeah, I mean I think those two stand alone

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Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about the top five.

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Speaker 2: Waited out and somebody gets cut at the end of

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Speaker 2: On the offensive line. You got Broderick Jones, Isaac Saamalu,

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Speaker 2: Honestly, that's probably why a guy like Jack Sawyer ends

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Speaker 3: Right, It's just a supply demand thing, which is why

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Speaker 3: Well because you got the young guys there. Now, I

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Speaker 2: A household names you pick up. I mean, if you

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Speaker 3: Sharping and Calvin Anderson don't seem like much. They were

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Speaker 2: You're always looking, you always always and you know, that's

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Speaker 2: Next year, you're going to have eleven picks available next year.

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Speaker 2: And then they got Connor Heyward and DJ Thomas Jones,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. But I think they love their top two

438
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 3: then they should.

439
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

440
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 3: I expecting even a little bit more of those guys

441
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 3: this year.

442
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 2: At running back. They added Caleb Johnson in the third

443
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 2: round to that group that also includes Jalen Warren, Kenneth Gamewell,

444
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: Cordeal Patterson, Aaron Shampkin, Jonathan Ward, and Evan Hall.

445
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 3: It's premature to say this, but I think before long

446
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 3: it'll be pretty clear that Johnson is the one. A,

447
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 3: Warren's the one. B.

448
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 2: I think you keep Warren in the same role that

449
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 2: he's had.

450
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: He's definitely your third down guy, plus right, more early

451
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 3: down stuff too. Gainwell's a fallback option safe number three cool,

452
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 3: But I think Johnson's a wonderful addition to that.

453
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 2: Oh, it's tremendous. Yeah, tremendous. I think you got in

454
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 2: every down back. Potentially, we'll see how he does in

455
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: past protection things of that nature, but at the very

456
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: least he's your He replaces Nagie Harris's.

457
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, yeah, And I think he's just a better

458
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 3: steam fit. He's younger. I think he's got more big playability.

459
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: I think he's got better vision and nausea. Was a

460
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 3: good player, but you might have a better running back

461
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 3: Whoman he did last year.

462
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, quarterback. You add Will Howard to the group

463
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 2: with Mason Rudolph Skyler Thompson. Interesting to note Will Howard

464
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 2: and Skyler Thompson split time at k State. Yeah, I

465
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: heard two seasons.

466
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, they were teammates. Interact now or overlap now. Thompson,

467
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 3: this isn't terrible. By the way, I kind of liked

468
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 3: him coming out of Kansas State. He's had some struggles

469
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: when thrown into the mix. We never talk about him,

470
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 3: but I am interested to watch him in camp.

471
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Speaker 2: He had to go in and start a playoff game, right,

472
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: he had a tough situation.

473
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, without much of an O line. I'm not saying

474
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 3: he's wonderful, but he's not. I am interested to watch

475
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: him in black and gold. Getting Howard where they did,

476
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 3: I think is wonderful. And the more and more that

477
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm around the facility, you're there more. I think they're

478
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 3: really content, happy, excited quietly about Rudolph. I'm not saying

479
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 3: he's the answer this year, that he's going to take

480
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 3: him the super Bowl. That's not the plan. Yeah. I

481
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: think they're very happy he's in black and gold.

482
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: And I think in the next few weeks here, we're

483
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Speaker 2: going to see somebody else added to that.

484
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: Yes, room, I think that's an absolute.

485
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: I mean we know, well, first of all, we know

486
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: they're going to take four to training camp. Yes, they've

487
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: only got three on the roster. They didn't even sign

488
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 2: one after the draft, just to have another.

489
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Speaker 3: Body in another camp. Arm. The writings on the wall.

490
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: The writing is on the wall. It's going to happen. Yeah,

491
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: it's going to happen. Right, So we'll see any minute

492
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: now when. Yeah, that when is the only question. Moving

493
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: over to the defensive side of things, he added Derek

494
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: Harmon in the first round. He is immediately, in my eyes,

495
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: hilarry Okanjobi replacement.

496
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. I mean between him, Betton and Heyward,

497
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: those are your your top three guys clearly, and then

498
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: everyone else is battling for four through seven or whatever.

499
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you got Isaiah Lot Loudermilk. You got Yaye

500
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: Black who he drafted in the fifth round, Daniel Kyle,

501
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: I can I need to get better that Kayley who

502
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 2: you signed as an from New England. Logan Lee's toll

503
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 2: on a team yet another Iowa. They actually have four

504
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: Iowa players in this year's draft because Lee was hurt

505
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: all last year. Yeah, Jacob Slade who they added, Dean Lowry,

506
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: uhs Eziwayo, and Dominique Davis another guy that they assigned that.

507
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not a big name guy, but that's

508
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 3: we talked about this a lot with the line. If

509
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: there's only seven spots, nine NFL players in that group,

510
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: you know, so we'll see all that shapes out. But

511
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: that could be a very competitive bottom of the room battle. Yeah.

512
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: They made the move to release Montrevius Adams today.

513
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: Shocked me a little bit. I wonder if there's somebody

514
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 3: else to have their eye on. I don't know, I

515
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 3: just wonder. You know, he had the knee injury last year.

516
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they never quite looked the same. He didn't look

517
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: the same when he came back. I just wonder if

518
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 2: that's something that they looked at and said that's going

519
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: to be a long term problem for him. He's thirty

520
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: now and they didn't need the cap space. I mean,

521
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: I just assume that after they drafted Black that we

522
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: probably can move on now. Yeah, maybe just did him

523
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: a favor because he has been a good soldier for them.

524
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: No at outside linebacker. Well, you went out and that

525
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: of Jack Sawyer to a room that already includes TJ.

526
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: Watt and Alex high Smith, Nick Herbig. You still have

527
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Moon there as well. What does this mean for

528
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: Demarvin Leal?

529
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: That's a great question. I haven't thought about that angle

530
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 3: at all. I mean, which maybe he should have been

531
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: lumped with the other room. Does he is him as question?

532
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: Does he move the defensive line now or is he now?

533
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: Is he an outside linebacker full time?

534
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: It's not like you've seen lately, But do we know

535
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: what he weighs? I mean, I'm curious.

536
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 2: He had a neck injury last year. Yeah, yeah, that

537
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: you know ended his season.

538
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

539
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: They also have Echu Lioda there and Julius Welshoff. Uh,

540
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: okay year and did something did some nice things too,

541
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: So they they're really kind of stacked. Thomas Rush another

542
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: guy that they have there as well.

543
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 3: They're really including Leo. I wonder if they keep six,

544
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: you know, is it Moon and Leal fighting for a

545
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: spot or they both make it or whatever. Obviously, special

546
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: teams has a lot to do with it. But I

547
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: do think we'll talk about all these individual players a

548
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: lot going forward. I didn't see the Sawyer pick coming,

549
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: but they've made two acquisitions there, Preston Smith and Sawyer,

550
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: both that don't look like her big and a big game,

551
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: you know.

552
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: Go back the year before that, and they tried to

553
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: bring him back in training camp Marcus Golden.

554
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was a bigger, big body, yeah, not

555
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: super twitchy off the edge, you know, like a her big,

556
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: like a our pass rusher. It screams Ravens. Yeah. You

557
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: gonna play the Ravens twice.

558
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: And we want somebody's gonna set the edge. Yeah, you know,

559
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 2: if we if we have to, you know, pull one

560
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: of our starters off the field for whatever reason, even

561
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: if he's off the field for three plays. I want

562
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: to power edge rusher out there. One of the things

563
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: that we saw a lot last year other teams, not.

564
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: The splits as well, the Hayward stuff here.

565
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Cam Hayward and t J. Watt were off

566
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: the field, run the ball.

567
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: Yep, and I think an immediate shortcut that fans think

568
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: are stopped around the fence. I need to put Casey

569
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: Hampton in the middle. It's helpful, but set in the

570
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: edges too. Yeah, it's a group effort.

571
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: Force everything back inside your inside linebackers who are really fast,

572
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: and let them make plays. Speaking of those inside linebackers,

573
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: you have Patrick Queen, you have Peyton Wilson, Cole Holcom.

574
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: They brought in Malik Harrison in the off season, Mark

575
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: Robinson still here. They had Devin hen Harper, who's the

576
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 2: guy that they they brought in on a as a

577
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: camp invite. And they drafted Carson Brunner in the seventh round.

578
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: Just for the inside linebacker room specifically. I'm like, boy,

579
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: that's too crowded, you know. I mean that does that

580
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: mean him and Mark Robinson are going to battle for

581
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: a spot. I don't think Harrison's in any jeopardy in

582
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: neither of the top three. But special team, special team,

583
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 3: special teams.

584
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: They've kept six there before. They that depends on how

585
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: many defensive backs you keep.

586
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: They don't know have to be acting on game day,

587
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: and you know Harrison's a really good special team or

588
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: Robinson's a really good special teamer. I would imagine Wilson's

589
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 3: role on special teams is going to decrease. Bruner is

590
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: a great special team. Yeah.

591
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: And if you're like two years ago they had the

592
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: least amount of special teams plays from their linebackers in

593
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: the league, Well, now you've got the You've got the

594
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: potential here because I believe, I mean no use Sawyer

595
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: on special teams as well.

596
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how much he's done, but he's gonna

597
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: he's going to.

598
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: I believe he should be able to do it. You

599
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: might have the most.

600
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Moon as well. I'm just saying some

601
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: of the edge guys.

602
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: Especially with this new kickoff rule, I'd like to have

603
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: four or five linebackers out there on.

604
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: The You don't want all corners, No, you need some size.

605
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: You've got to be able to get off a block

606
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: and make a play.

607
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: Physicality against try to drag a quarter O Patterson down

608
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: right right. You don't want a bunch of hundred and

609
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: eighty pound guys.

610
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Uh, it's safety. Well, today we find out that Ryan Watts,

611
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: a sixth round pick from last year, the neck issue

612
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: that he had that kind of training camp last year

613
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: is going to end his career.

614
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: That's pretty psyched about him.

615
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate. But they did go out and they added, well,

616
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: they had this, you got this Sean Elliott, You've got

617
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: makea Fitzpatrick's there. They brought him one thornhill in the offseason.

618
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: You still have Miles killer Brew who is your special

619
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: team's captain and a all Pro special teams guy. You

620
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: got Joshua Bledsoe there, and you added in as an

621
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: undrafted pre agent Sebastian Castro from Iowa.

622
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: Who's easily could have been a six or seventh round pick.

623
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: And that's the type of prospect he is. Thicker build,

624
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: not a tremendous tester, but played a lot of football

625
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: at Iowa.

626
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: At Iowa, which is prother more a lot of defensive

627
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: backs in the league.

628
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough, smart, all those things, special teams of course,

629
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: plays in a line of scrimmage well, tackles, physical childhood

630
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: heroes Troy Paul Maler all right, yeah, let's go.

631
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: And also played a lot of nickel Yeah a lot, yeah,

632
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: right right for Iowa.

633
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: So between we'll get the corners, but between Bishop Eccles, Thornhill, Castro,

634
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: the slots, that stuff might be a lot different this year.

635
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be. I mean, you get

636
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: two bigger body guys there. Maybe safety types.

637
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that are safety types for when you're playing these

638
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: run heavy teams that want to get you an eleven.

639
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: They come out in eleven personnel and then want to

640
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: run the ball right right right, I got I got

641
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: a couple of bigger bodies there that can put out

642
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: there now.

643
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: Or even the Ravens if they're going to put Likely

644
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: and Andrews out there. You know they're not exactly Mark

645
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: Brunner like blockers. Yeah, maybe I match that with Nickel,

646
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: but I have Thornhill on them or some you know, Castro.

647
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: Whatever the cornerback position. Uh, you guess, Joey Porter Jr.

648
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: You got Darius Lay, Corey Trice, James Pierre, uh DeShawn Jamison, Kyler, McMichael,

649
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: Cameron McCutcheon, Brandon Echoles, Beanie Bishop. Don't they kent one

650
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: of the other seventh round the other seventh round pick?

651
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: And then you know how you how do you view

652
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: Castro there? Maybe he's one in that Nickel conversation, but

653
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: they've got bought a lot of bodies there, Kent. Was

654
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: this the last pick that they made in this draft.

655
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: But you know, he's a guy that's played a lot

656
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: of a lot of football at Central Michigan.

657
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: And I think, like Commons said at the final press

658
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: conference or right after that pick, that he is inside

659
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: slot in outside capable. We'll see. He's not huge.

660
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: He had like forty seven pass breakups in his career.

661
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: It's central a lot.

662
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: He didn't have a lot of picks, but he's got

663
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: his hands on the ball a lot. It's pretty good

664
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: tester too, really good tackler. Team ran like a four

665
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: to three nine. That's some returnability too, right that. I

666
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: didn't know anything about him before they picked him, But

667
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: the more I researched, might, oh, that's very worthles seventh

668
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: round pick.

669
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I you know, I look at that group.

670
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: Would have been nice to add a good young talent

671
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: to that. Sure, absolutely, Yeah, you know Slagh's thirty four

672
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: years old. But you have Trice there. It's not like

673
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: you're counting as the wild card. You're not counting on

674
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: Trice to start, right, But if he develops into a starter, great, If.

675
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: He pushes forward or looks like a future starter. That

676
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: that's why I think he's the wild card.

677
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so you know, you still got a

678
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: guy like James Pierre there who was maybe.

679
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: Defensive snat He's played there for special teams, right, so.

680
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: You know I don't I don't mind that group. Then

681
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: you look at the I.

682
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: Thought they might draft a six to one long arm

683
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: corner though.

684
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: Well, I think they looked at it and maybe that

685
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: would have been where they took Sawyer at. And a

686
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: lot of times that's what we did in that round.

687
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: The guy we're looking in that neighborhood. You know, there

688
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: were still guys available. I remember writing up you know,

689
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: here's some guys that they could look at, and those dudes,

690
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: those guys were still there, and I think they looked

691
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: at Sawyer and said, this is too good of an

692
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: opportunity to pass up.

693
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: Uh.

694
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: You have the two punters, Cameron Johnston, who's by all counts,

695
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: is recovering well and looks like he's, yeah, gonna be healthy,

696
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: Corless weightman n Yeah, you have Chris Boswell at place Kicker.

697
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: They brought in Ben Sols from pitt as Theirs their

698
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: camp leg although that's a little different since he is

699
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: a left footed kicker.

700
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: He is and he's not gonna be Boswell out and.

701
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen, right. Your long snapper is Christian Kunz,

702
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: although I'll say that Brunner has done some long snapping

703
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: and he's got some of that in his background, so.

704
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: That's pretty well set. I would love for them to

705
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: turn Weightman into a seventh round pick at some point

706
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: because he's time making the team.

707
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we'll see, uh, maybe a flip something

708
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: there and maybe you trade your one of your trade

709
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: your seven and get a six for him exactly something

710
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: like that.

711
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: I mean, there will be teams that could do a

712
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: lot worse than wait, mine when it all comes down

713
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: to cut down.

714
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: Dere Yeah, I just look at the roster and I'm like, Okay,

715
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: where could they add at because I can remember us

716
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: sitting there at We're doing shows at Chucknols Stadium a

717
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and I'm like, there's still a

718
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: linebacker short. When got Alexander, it went out and signed

719
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: the Juan Alexander's Like, some of those things will happen, right,

720
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: And it was like I think it was within a

721
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: day or two, like I'm watching them, you know, I've

722
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: got the binoculars. We're up there in the press box,

723
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: and I'm looking around like I'd still like to see

724
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: one more line, one more guy, right, Yeah, maybe it's

725
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: another wide receiver offensive line.

726
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: Makes some sense. Maybe a slot capable receiver. I brought

727
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: up Keen Allen's name a lot. I mean, that's kind

728
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: of pie in the sky. But I mean somebody like

729
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: that O Lineman's gonna be a lot thinner. I mean,

730
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: we could come up with receiver names people know that

731
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: are going to be in the league. If an outside

732
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: corner became available, maybe, but the defense is pretty static.

733
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: Defense looks pretty good. Would you consider I don't.

734
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: Know the name, but like a thirty five year old

735
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 3: nose tackle that's done it for one hundred years, that

736
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: just eats blocks like it's his job. Those guys are

737
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: always available. I don't know. I don't know if they

738
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: want that.

739
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: Drafted two guys there and you assigned two guys already.

740
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 3: It's like, but they mentioned black is more of an

741
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: end than nose. Yeah, And I don't know. I thought

742
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: maybe a power guy in the middle that's just a

743
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: massive human being. But I'm not sure. If they want

744
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 3: that guy anymore.

745
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna play eight snaps a.

746
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: Game, right right, you know it is not special teams, and.

747
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: You know, and the other team's going to might be

748
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: happy when you when you put him out there. Okay,

749
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: they bring out the big nose tackle and I was

750
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: just gonna throw. So I got to go to rush

751
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: the passer a little bit.

752
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: Do I know? And I don't think the Steelers are

753
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: in this market, but who knows. But like Adam Schefter

754
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: put out a name of twelve guys that could get

755
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: traded on Draft Day, None did none. I mean that

756
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that Jalen Ramsey's still going to be a

757
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: Dolphin or whoever else. And I'm not saying there to

758
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: go trade for Jalen Ramsey, but there's some names that

759
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: are gonna get moved still. Yeah.

760
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So we'll see how that all shakes out. And

761
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: you know, I want to see what they look like

762
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: on the field. That's the next step now as we

763
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: get here in.

764
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks camp. But I would like to

765
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 3: see where are they aligning. You know why you're black

766
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: guys like that? Yeah, what's a plan? He is Matt Williamson.

767
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

768
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I are going to

769
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 3: take a break. We'll be back with more right after this.

770
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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

771
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

772
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

773
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the

774
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt some of the things that drive

775
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: me a little bit bonkers about the business that we

776
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: have chosen.

777
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep.

778
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: I'm just looking here on the top two stories right

779
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: now on nfl dot com Power Rankings, who's up after

780
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: the draft? Which team slipped instant impact picks? The next

781
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: one is the final grades for all thirty two classes.

782
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: Like, can we just relax a little relax right right?

783
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: Not to steal a Aaron Rodgers term, but come on.

784
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 3: But we have to be Oh he went from the

785
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: they went from the twelfth best team to the fourteenth

786
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 3: because of this fifth round?

787
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: Because yeah, did any like who like? I get it.

788
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 2: It's the draft and teams improved, But everybody, did.

789
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: I know, I know, And we've had a lot of optimism, rightfully, so,

790
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: and we'll have more if Rogers signs in five minutes

791
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: or whatever.

792
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Steelers' power rankings are they going to all

793
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers jump up three spots because they got Aaron Rodgers, Like,

794
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 2: you should already factor that into this exactly.

795
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: And but my my thing is the other thirty one

796
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: teams got better.

797
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: Everybody did.

798
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: Everybodybody got new players, right, We're gonna talk about other

799
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: teams draft classes, We'll talk around the league for the

800
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: next couple of months a lot, and we'll like some

801
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 3: stuff better than others. But the league is so smart

802
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: because this is really the time I call the Eternal

803
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: Optimism time, because nobody's breaking their legs or blowing out

804
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: a knee, and every pick that you make is going

805
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: to be a good right, which, of course isn't going

806
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: to happen. This is my favorite.

807
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Well, there's no chance we're as injured as we.

808
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: Were last year because people don't get hurt anymore, or

809
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, there's a lot of

810
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 3: bad stuff that happens, but it won't for another month

811
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: or two. And it's just everyone that comes back from

812
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: injury is going to be better than ever, no one's

813
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 3: going to get older.

814
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: Everybody's in the best shape of their lives exactly.

815
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: Exactly, and the league is super competitive. And yes, thirty

816
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 3: two teams got better in the last couple of days,

817
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: but the team you're playing against it too.

818
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: You know, everybody added people, yes, some more than others.

819
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: Like there's some draft classes that are light.

820
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: You know, there's some draft classes that are light. There's

821
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: some other one. Like I liked what the Ravens did

822
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: in the first and second round. Yeah, they made a

823
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: lot of picks, and they made a lot of picks,

824
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: but the majority of their picks we're in the sixth

825
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: and seventh rounds exactly. Like how yeah, you had eleven picks,

826
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: but seven of them were in round six and seven. Yeah,

827
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: like you hit, you know, tremendously.

828
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: If they get two guys out of that night's great.

829
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: You know, a better chance they got a six or

830
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: seven fined than most. It's not like when.

831
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: The Ram you know, the Rams have, well they have

832
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: you know, six picks on day two, Well you better

833
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: hit on those. Yeah, those are like if you better

834
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: hit on five or six of those.

835
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're winning. Percentage needs to be a lot better

836
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: as opposed to those.

837
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: You know, if I hit on these six and seventh

838
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: round guys, that's gravy.

839
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: That's gravy. Or if they turn into more than a backup,

840
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: or if you get a full four years out of

841
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: their contract, that's all win.

842
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: You know, too many people, but I think get wrapped

843
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: up in a guy being drafted like I. You know,

844
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: for example, this was the first first round draft pick

845
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers have used on a defensive lineman since Cam Hayward.

846
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: Since Cam right right, it's a long time.

847
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: I can think. I think they've only gone with a

848
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: defensive lineman four times into thirty three years that I've

849
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: covered the team. Wow, I guess that is a It

850
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: was Cam right right, and and Ziggi Hood and Casey Hampton.

851
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: I can't think if there was an I don't think

852
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: there was another one in there the first round to

853
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: talk about what I'm not talking about edge about the

854
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: defensive lineman.

855
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean Gab Rivera, Joe Green. But I mean

856
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: that's going back. I mean that's fifty years yeah, Aaron.

857
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: Jones, depending on how you look at that, but that's

858
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: before my time, yeah, right right, And people look at

859
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: this way, you know, they've they've used these picks on

860
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: these defensive linemen and it hasn't worked out. You're gonna

861
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: kill him for taking it. Isaiah louder Milk in the

862
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: fifth round, right, all right, what are we talking about here?

863
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about this one.

864
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 2: They traded up to get him.

865
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: I don't care, but the give it a frown draft

866
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: back of a future six or something to get him,

867
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: Like this is I love the NFL and the draft

868
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: is more meaningful than other leagues. But if the Penguins

869
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: move up in the sixth round for somebody says it's

870
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: not even on TV or a line in the newspaper

871
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: on the internet in.

872
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball team, but you can't even tell me

873
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: who the fifth round pick was.

874
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: For second third round pick. People don't know right exactly.

875
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: And there's not there's only two rounds in the NBA draft,

876
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: Like what are we talking you know? If a guy

877
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: to me, if you're drafted in the first three rounds, yeah,

878
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: you should be a future starter. Yeah, anything beyond that,

879
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Like the word bus gets thrown around so much, you

880
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: can't I'm of the thought that you can't be a

881
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: bust unless you're a first or second round.

882
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: Draft pick Jobey putting it. I mean Third's have an

883
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 3: uphill climb. I mean it's border line up with third

884
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: in that conversation, you know, I mean.

885
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: You could be a third round pick and still be

886
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: over one hundred where you were drafted. Yeah, the hundreds

887
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: player in your draft.

888
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 3: If you're a third round pick and you're a sixty

889
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 3: percent since snap, guys a nickel corner for six years,

890
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 3: Yeah that worked.

891
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: But if you're a first or second round pick, you

892
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: better hit.

893
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: You can't miss it.

894
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: You can't miss on nothing.

895
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: That's yeah, when you you almost have to look at

896
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: a negative light, we're the ones you had missed early

897
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: as opposed to the hits. The hits you gotta you

898
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: gotta hit, I mean you gotta get on base. Yeah,

899
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: you know.

900
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 2: But and to me, as awesome as.

901
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: A draft is, it gets overblown every year every year

902
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 3: because like one thing I like about Pro Football focus,

903
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: and they do it during the downtime. Here's our thirty

904
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: two rookie classes. Washington's first with Jayalen Daniels. But it

905
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: wasn't like it was Pro Bowl or Pro Bowl or

906
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl or the fifteenth team. Their rookie

907
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: classes a couple of decent dudes, but nothing great, you know,

908
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: like and rookies have a hard time adjusting the league too.

909
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: Sometimes it takes a couple of years. Sometimes it does

910
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: take a couple of years. And to me, everything got

911
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 3: fixed this weekend.

912
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: For example. For example, people look at well nausea Harris

913
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: didn't work out for this, so that was a that

914
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: was a wasted draft pick. I'm like, you get fourced

915
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: four years of one thousand yard rushers rushing each year

916
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 2: right out of that player. That is not a failed

917
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: draft pick.

918
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: No, and a lot of it. Like you mentioned, not

919
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: all first round picks are created equal. Appreciate the running

920
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: back position. So if gent D does that his first

921
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 3: four years, that's below the line. That's not good enough.

922
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: He was a top ten pick, top.

923
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: Ten pick of running back. I mean those guys have

924
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: to be special. I mean the bar is higher h

925
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: at that position. So anyways, I just take it all

926
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: over the grain of salt. Yeah, I know.

927
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: You know, you can't judge the draft classes overall based

928
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: on well, where this guy had the rank, that guy

929
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: was ranked here that I don't care about that, Like A,

930
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: I do my own evaluations on this stuff. So I

931
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: have an idea of where I would take guys. I

932
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: know where you would take guys. That kind of stuff,

933
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: talk to to the end. But to just sit there

934
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 2: and say, well that draft class that's an A plus

935
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: and that one's a D like, or that one's a

936
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: C and that one's a B like.

937
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: You don't know, right, And I do urge people go

938
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: to draft history, pull up the Steelers, look at their

939
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: last five, ten, fifteen, twenty drafts. Is however old you are,

940
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: and if you remember what draft day was like and

941
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: then you look at the results, usually you're gonna be underwhelmed. Yeah,

942
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: I mean it's not like, Man, we found I can't

943
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: believe this guy fell to the fifth round. I had

944
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: a third round grade on him. Yeah. But did he

945
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: have a long, great career or was he a contributor? Yeah?

946
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: A fine player, he was, okay, you know.

947
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: And that's it's that way for every team. It's a

948
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: way for every team, right everyone. There's a lot of

949
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: misses that's going to do it. For our number one.

950
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lalli. He is the Matt Williamson. Matt

951
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 2: and I are going to be back with our number

952
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: two of the drive right after this