WEBVTT - An Important Rewatch 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.640 It's nine OGE. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.120 With Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:13.120 Well, well, well it's another nine O two one OMG 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:18.840 you guys wow, and it's an OMG or yeah it is. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.600 It's heavy. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:23.880 I did not see this episode coming. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:28.080 Nope, not after last week. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:32.120 The world did. Well, the world saw it coming because 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:33.840 it's so topical. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.160 I mean, isn't it crazy we were just talking about Halloween. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:44.239 We're so on we're so on trend with our podcast. Unfortunately, yeah, unfortunately, 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:48.599 but here it is the topic of anti semitism and 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.680 racism abound in this episode. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:56.880 It actually like took me back like where I was, like, 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:02.000 this is literally what's on the news, Yeah, what's in 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:09.679 our world. It was sort of astounding how on point 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:15.640 this episode was. Like it really I was a little gobsmack, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:16.720 like whoa. 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.960 I yeh, yeah, it's it is weird how this is 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.640 it's the same. I mean, when the show has in 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.479 the previous in the past talked about racism and here 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.880 we are dealing with the same things, and now we're 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.440 talking about anti semitism and that's just all over the 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.759 news right now. It's on every college campus. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:45.280 It's just what's sadder is to know that things don't change. Yeah, 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:47.880 that's the hard part. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:48.720 We've come. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.880 We always say we've come so far, and then it's 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.160 something like this that you look back thirty years. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.320 Ago and you're like, you really sadly haven't, Tory. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:02.480 That's such an interesting point that after watching this, I 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.240 really was left to try to figure out was nine 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:13.760 oh two one zero so groundbreaking and so like just 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.200 willing to address these things? And I attribute that a 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.760 lot to your dad, Tori. Then I also was like, 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:26.560 or does life just never change? Do these issues just well? 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.640 Regardless, the show was definitely groundbreaking because we were the 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.720 first show talking about it on primetime television and certainly 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.280 the first show ever talking about it to this younger 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:37.840 audience for sure. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.560 So true, Jenny. It's like I also felt this episode 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.200 did not land on me back then in the same 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.760 way it does now. It's just watching it completely from 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.600 a different perspective as an adult. Yeah, I think most 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.240 of it probably sort of went over my head or 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.200 I just didn't pay attention or realize the signal the 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:01.320 kinds of it all. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.880 Which is a risk they took because when dealing with 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.960 young people and you know, here we are, we keep 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.200 talking about fifth season, like, oh, we're getting into the 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.920 keg parties and all the romances in the scandal, and 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.120 then to take us into something that's just like a 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:23.400 hard hitting topic feels almost like off point but very 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.399 nine to two one zero. But they took a big 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.920 chance that the audience would be, like young kids would 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.320 be like, I don't want to see this. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:30.880 I don't want to watch this episode. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.720 Yeah, they hit it hard too, like really hard. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:36.760 Was a balance, I gotta be honest. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.640 It was a little heavy handed, but it was such 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.800 a heavy topic. Yeah, and important to so many people, 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.440 so many people around the world, but so many people 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:50.600 involved in the production of our show, like you know. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:57.280 So they handled it well too, not just with my 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:04.720 nineteen ninety four eyes, but with today, Like it wasn't 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.160 I thought it was handled well. I thought if I 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.680 was a young person watching this, you understood all sides, 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.719 and you understood how important this was, and each was 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:21.920 presented fairly well. The you know, per usual, the let's 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:23.280 tie it up with a bow and we're all so 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.719 happy is always a little nine o two in OI. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:31.320 But otherwise I don't have a lot of criticism of it. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.320 Why don't we remind people, What the heck we're talking? 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:34.679 Yeah? 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.080 Uh? This is season five, episode eleven. Hate is just 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.960 a four letter word, aired November sixteenth, nineteen ninety four. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:44.080 Synopsis. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:50.360 Racial tensions hit the campus of California University, putting Brandon's peacekeeping. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:50.640 Skills to the test. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.240 Kelly's photo shoot gets canceled, Donna's party gets ruined, and 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.360 Dylan gets threatened by his no good drug dealer. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:03.440 Directed by Les Landa, written by Richard Golance and Charles Rosen. 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.880 Of course, yeah, can we get the one most awkward 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.040 thing in this whole episode out of the way, though, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:15.680 the one literally I get it, there's one gasped out loud. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.920 There was one. I guess Jenny will get it. You'll 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:19.400 get it. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.800 Wait, okay, was it with Brandon? Yes, it was with 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.360 brand Is it's something Brandon said Kelly. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.720 I can't remember who he said it to, but it 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.760 was so not not wait say it? 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.360 What was it? Slap and tickle? 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.560 No, but I can't wait to talk about that. It 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.800 was when they said I'm just gonna acknowledge it next year. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.200 Could you get Bill Cosby? 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:46.000 Oh? 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.320 Yeah, God, so that was okay? 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:50.880 Then to reference him. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.719 Of course, and it totally made sense then, But that 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.280 was the one thing that I was like, what did 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.560 not age? 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.000 Well, how could he have known? 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.800 They know so much on but they didn't not. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:06.560 Yes, we're so ahead of our time. 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.000 Did not get that one? 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.160 Then it was you couldn't have known. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:16.400 Yeah, Pudding and the Cosby Show was quite well liked. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.360 Then, Yeah, I thought you were gonna say it was 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.400 when Brandon asked Kelly if she wanted to go back 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.520 to her place and do a little slap and tickle. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.080 Okay, so what's a slap and tickle? 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:30.560 By the exactly what only Kelly would Apparently it's their thing, 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:31.320 a slap and tickle. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.640 I guess that was something that like things we said 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:35.080 to each other. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.480 Then that was actually bananas. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.840 What does that mean He's gonna slap me and I'm 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:41.680 gonna tickle. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.760 Him or like a like a slap your fanny and. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.640 Whatever it is. It's creepy and I don't want that visual. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:50.040 Thank you. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.040 That's gross, especially for like someone young to be like 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.240 that sounds like something like Jim Walsh might say to Cindy. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.040 Like, hey, let's go upstairs and do a little slap 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:58.520 and circle. 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.640 I put it not murders. Actually, how about Jim Walsh 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.680 being also very ahead of his time, sort of calling 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:10.400 out Brandon's white privilege in a very sort of eloquent way. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.120 I thought, oh, all right. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.800 Yeah, leave it to Jimbo. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:21.680 Everybody got it right, especially although Jesse and Andrea we 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.440 can dissect, because I do think Andrea has an issue 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:29.080 sort of listening and allowing people to have a different opinion. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.520 But that was very compelling. Andrea with her grandmother, and 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:38.400 obviously she would be passionate about this right, rightfully, so 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:45.320 she would be a real outspoken, you know, person willing 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.120 to make a stand. So that all tracked, and it 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.000 was nice to see her have something to do. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:53.880 Other than carry a baby. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:59.320 Yeah yeah, when Grandma Rose, is that Grandma Rose? When 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.640 Grandma Rose, because Gramma Rose was somebody else. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.320 So I get computer, Yeah, yeah, that's right. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:08.239 Grandma Rose dropped the line about him being him dying 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:12.000 in the camps, like all of a sudden, the episode 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.480 just took a turn from Hi, yeah, yeah, I don't 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:16.480 know about you. No. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:21.720 It was so heavy saying that Hannah looks like him, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.040 and then all of a sudden, you get this, You 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.320 just get the heaviness and the importance of what they're 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:36.480 talking about, and oh, it just resonated so much about 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:45.280 speech and inappropriate speech and or somebody saying something in 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.480 one speech and that becoming how you completely think of them. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:51.160 You know. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.960 And again I was left to not really know what 0:08:54.000 --> 0:09:01.280 my take was on Roland Roland Turner because we're we 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:07.760 see that terrible, hateful speech, horrible, but then we never 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.480 really are convinced that he's not that way, even though 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:16.760 Janice is explaining that he is different from that. So 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.000 it was just all of it just was too much 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:20.320 for me. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.560 Yeah, it was so much. It was hard for me 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:27.880 to track, like everybody's position on everything. What did you feel? 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.360 How did you feel about the fight when Andrea comes 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.440 over to visit Brandon, because each of them had their position, 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.240 and I felt like neither of them were wrong in 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:36.880 what they were. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.880 I felt the same way. It was a little Brandony 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.320 to Abstein. Brandon is very hesitant. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.439 Yeah, he's so Switzerland. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:54.439 Totally Brandon Jason Jason. 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.320 Life art, life art. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.240 So I thought that was that was interesting, you know, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.439 it's it's it's so nine o two one oo to 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:08.360 have this topic that at the time was so probably 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:12.880 I couldn't even really comprehend. And there's also the confusion 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:17.240 of real people being interspersed, like Anita Hill or Marcus 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.960 Garvey and then Roland Turner, I'm assuming is like a 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.080 made up person. There's a lot of that where it 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:28.160 was very confusing. So you're kind of like trying to 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.079 do a history lesson at the same time. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.400 And I was thinking, like, I think this might have 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:40.439 been me, Jenny, my first sort of learning about all 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.600 of this because I didn't go to high school and 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.360 I didn't yeah, I didn't have classes in these categories, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.840 so this was like educational for me back then. And 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.600 then I was thinking, like when kids go away to college, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.480 I mean they this is when they get to express 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:58.959 their opinions about things, and then they get to go 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:03.040 and have these this outlet where they get to stand 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.959 on their own opinions. And it's interesting. Again, I never 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.040 saw that in real life, so I felt like I 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:15.640 was learning how it was handled back then and now 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:20.480 seeing how it's being handled now. Just the similarities and 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.920 the prominent sort of role models in everyone's life. The 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:29.760 woman who works at seventeen magazine and her perspective, the 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:34.920 dean and his perspective. Yeah, and that really resonated. 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:38.320 Too, Like I don't know, I do feel like it 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:44.360 was well done, although it's hard to totally know where 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:48.120 I stand because it was confusing and in forty four minutes, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.239 I'm like, right, I don't have any information. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.840 I mean, I know this episode was really important to 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.760 my dad and his heritage. I mean I can remember 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.840 not knowing what it was about. But we took one 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.640 you know, my dad didn't fly, so we took one 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.480 trip to Europe and we had to take a train 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.520 three days to New York and then. 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.720 The Kiwi two boat took a week to get there. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.040 So it was a big in Europe. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.880 But my dad, it was really important that he wanted 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.320 to because he was in World War Two. It was 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.720 important for him to go to Normandy, France and the Wall. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.800 It was really important as a Jew to take a 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.160 picture there and he was like, this is part of 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:33.400 our heritage and for everyone that was murdered, and that 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.439 was something that I'll never forget. That photo and seeing 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.680 him so proud, like beaming. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.920 And he okay, I'm sorry to get sidetracked on such 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.000 an important thing. He actually did not fly at all, 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.560 so you took a train across the country and took 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:49.400 a boat. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:49.839 Right. 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.840 It was in World War Two and when he was 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.560 coming home. He came back from Europe to New York 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.479 and was supposed to get on a flight to Texas 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.240 and he had bronchidas. They pulled him off the flight, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.440 the flight crash, everyone died on it. He his mom said, please, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:06.360 don't ever fly again. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:06.880 He never did. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:11.120 He was eighteen and even in all your years, he 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:12.920 never got a private plane nothing. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.079 No, he wouldn't get back on a plane ever. Jen 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.520 knows this, like never slew. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.400 Wow, so you took this trip that it was so 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.840 important to him that you did it the way you 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:27.480 all did it, all four of you. Yes, wow, Oh 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.800 my gosh. Can you remember it, Like, can you remember 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.240 all of it and how important it was to your dad? 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.800 Yeah. But I could visualize that picture that he took 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.800 and he was like wanted. I think we had like 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:41.000 disposable cameras at the time, but it was really important 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:42.000 for him to go. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.600 There specifically and take a picture. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.680 And I remember him kissing the wall and very Yeah, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:49.360 he was very emotional. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.760 I mean, it's such a heavy episode, and I did 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:09.079 think about your your dad throughout For some reason, I 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:10.480 don't know, Jenny of you had the same thing, but 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.240 for some reason, I felt like this had to have 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.960 been so important to him. And I'm assuming, I don't 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.160 want to put words in Charles Rosen's now, I'm assuming this. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:23.280 Was so important, yes, him and Karen, of course. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.400 Yeah, I think it was. It was a good episode, 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.560 but it was hard to follow, and it was it 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.560 felt like it took me out of the night or 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.200 two and zero of it, which is fine. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:39.640 Mm yeah, especially today and this is Sweeps right still, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.920 Sweeps was sixteen sixteen, yeah, right, which is. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:44.720 A tough one. 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:49.440 I feel like for Sweeps right right, because I mean 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:55.280 it's polarizing, right. Of course, some young people are going 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.400 to be like, oh wow, okay, I want to learn, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.520 I want to know more. They can watch what their 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.560 parents who can talk to them about it, and others 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.480 are like, we want that, you know, fun like partying 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:06.760 at the keghouse. 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:07.920 Yeah. 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:12.480 Yeah, it's very like typical because we have this. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.640 Sort of history lesson happening in front of our eyes. 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.240 But then we simultaneously have Dylan in the hospital with 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.040 his mom with a drug dealer getting into the hospital 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:22.680 about that. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.120 Well, because Val tells them how to how to get there, 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.800 like she, I don't what is she doing sitting vigil 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.400 night after night, never leaving the hospital, but then going 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:40.840 and sneaking basically into getting the keys somehow from Iris 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.320 and then going into his thing, going through all of 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.800 his drawers. But I guess then she was trying to 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.080 get rid of the drugs. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.920 That's so just as I was sort of like, oh, 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.480 but then then she got rid of the drugs, which 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.480 and she was sort of proud of herself for doing it, yea, But. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.480 Then she tells the drug dealer to go visit them. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.240 Essentially that was so crazy. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.680 Why would she not realize that was a drug deal what, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.480 old friend, what did you think it was? 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.760 Yeah, that doesn't ring true. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.240 For vows she saw him in the dream he was 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.880 to double hello. I'm just kidding. I didn't watch that 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:12.840 episode just last week. 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:20.560 And how about that guy like very like in the hospital, 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.240 like even the worst drug dealer, you better keep my 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.800 name out of your mouth, like this guy's on his head. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.800 And also what's gonna happen with this nurse? Come on, 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.880 Oh my gosh, I feel something coming. 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.120 Like what how do you feel? 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.360 I feel like she's going to be a part of 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.720 his past life regressions or something. 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.800 I was about done with her when we saw her again. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.680 She's a men but wants to study his dreams. And 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.040 then I saw a deck of cards. I was just like, 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:55.520 what the heck? 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:59.160 Yeah, I don't like where this is going. I feel 0:16:59.200 --> 0:16:59.680 bored by it. 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:00.840 Yeah, I was about done with her. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.800 I'm like, I told you I watched the wrong episode. 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.320 Oh no, I didn't. I watched two episodes from now 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.200 she's gone, so I guess she's. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:08.680 Oh, okay, good, good. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:10.520 Let's talk about that for a second. Let's just talk 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:11.960 about Dylan's whull sitch. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:12.760 Okay. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.920 Yeah, I was kind of honestly kind of bored by it, 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.000 Like I'm glad he's better and he can talk and. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.399 He seems to be improving. And then there's sort of 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.040 a comment about he has no money, and then it 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.000 seemed like Iris was maybe going to sort of save 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.280 the day on that she's got the money and don't 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.080 worry about the money. I don't know, and then Valerie. 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.080 He was filming something else and like he had one 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:36.639 day to shoot and they just did it all in 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:37.240 the hospital. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:37.480 Better. 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.480 Maybe maybe I. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:43.240 Don't know, I don't know. 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.560 And then Iris kind of liking Valerie. Oh, like telling 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.560 Dylan It's like, come on, Iris, you know better. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.200 Iris has met thal before. 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.480 Just in this time, just in this last since he's 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:57.440 been in the hospital. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.240 Really, that's the first time she's met her. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.520 Yeah, because the first time she's been back since Valerie 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:03.400 moved into town. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.399 Wow, So why does she like her? I don't she 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.520 thinks that's his new girlfriend or something. 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:11.880 I mean, all the rest of you forgot about him though, 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:16.040 I will say that, like, yeah, the rest of you are, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.280 you know, changing the world and playing flag football. 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.639 But there's flag football again. 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:26.560 There was some flag football, remember Brandon episode this one too, 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.240 my brand too. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.000 I don't you guys with the football. 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:30.920 I'm lost. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.920 They lost, They got all dirty Brandon, Brandon missed the game. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.040 Like cute dirty I fast forward. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:42.639 I know Muddy. I liked when Rush called Steve Stevie Wonder. 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.360 That was a little cute nickname. I'm like, okay, that's 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.919 kind of cute. Can I ask a question though, I 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.320 don't know if you guys noticed, did you notice some 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.600 crazy camera work at one point that it looked like 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.960 we were the Blair Witch Project? 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:56.480 Oh? 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.200 That would have made me excite it though. 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.520 Where was that There was a scene of Kelly and 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:05.040 Brandon in sort of the outside of school. First of all, 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.639 the lighting was like so bad. It was so sunny 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.800 and just bad, and the camera was just full Blair 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.000 Witch project. I was like, what is going on? 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.800 That was handheld before there was. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.680 Like a steady cam or something. 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:24.639 Yeah, this was literally a handheld camera. They didn't have 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.679 those ye those rigs that they put on now you 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:29.520 know that whole. 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that thing. You know what. I I 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.800 think one of the struggles I have with the episode, 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.119 even though I really liked it. Yeah, And I think 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:42.040 Jenny alluded to this. It's it's like I was supposed 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.400 to know Alex Diaz and Janice Williams and all these 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.040 people so well. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.840 Hello, they've been on so many times, Like. 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.679 I still don't get why Alex Diaz is just once 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.040 gunning for Brandon all the time and he's so angry. 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.560 Like I couldn't keep all that straight. 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.200 So that was keep it straight and I was like, wait, 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:01.960 this guy's. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:02.680 Back, Okay. 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:04.400 Yes, I was like, oh. 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:10.760 But I will tell you when Brandon Brandon with that gavel. 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.760 Oh no, I thought that was hot. I watched it twice. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.320 You guys, but. 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.000 Who brings their girlfriend to their like board meeting, like 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.000 you're always there? 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.040 Well, he thought it was going to be quick and 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:24.240 then when they were going to go do a little 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:24.919 slap and tickle. 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.640 Hello, she's number two on the call sheet. Of course 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.240 she's always going to be there. I'd get her in 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:31.360 as much as I could too. 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.000 I don't care if it makes sense. I want to 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:34.440 see her. 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.879 She's supporting her boyfriend who. By the way, I really 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.439 like Brandon and Kelly together. When I see them together, 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.639 it just makes me happy as a person watching it totally. 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:47.520 I don't know, they just seem fun and. 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.320 Like they don't seem fun. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:53.639 You don't think they seems fun. What the discussions they 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:55.320 were having in this episode. 0:20:55.359 --> 0:21:00.600 They're so I don't know, there's nothing see. 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:07.040 No, They're they're like a yeah, like teenage lovers. 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.840 Yeah, but I want to see a little bit of 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.120 like something. 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:12.040