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Speaker 1: It's nine OGE.

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Speaker 2: With Jenny Garth and Tory spelling.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, well it's another nine O two one OMG

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Speaker 3: you guys wow, and it's an OMG or yeah it is.

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Speaker 4: It's heavy.

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Speaker 3: I did not see this episode coming.

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Speaker 5: Nope, not after last week.

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Speaker 2: The world did. Well, the world saw it coming because

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Speaker 2: it's so topical.

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Speaker 3: I mean, isn't it crazy we were just talking about Halloween.

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Speaker 3: We're so on we're so on trend with our podcast. Unfortunately, yeah, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: but here it is the topic of anti semitism and

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Speaker 3: racism abound in this episode.

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Speaker 2: It actually like took me back like where I was, like,

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Speaker 2: this is literally what's on the news, Yeah, what's in

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Speaker 2: our world. It was sort of astounding how on point

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Speaker 2: this episode was. Like it really I was a little gobsmack,

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Speaker 2: like whoa.

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Speaker 3: I yeh, yeah, it's it is weird how this is

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Speaker 3: it's the same. I mean, when the show has in

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Speaker 3: the previous in the past talked about racism and here

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Speaker 3: we are dealing with the same things, and now we're

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Speaker 3: talking about anti semitism and that's just all over the

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Speaker 3: news right now. It's on every college campus.

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Speaker 5: It's just what's sadder is to know that things don't change. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's the hard part.

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Speaker 4: We've come.

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Speaker 5: We always say we've come so far, and then it's

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Speaker 5: something like this that you look back thirty years.

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Speaker 4: Ago and you're like, you really sadly haven't, Tory.

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Speaker 2: That's such an interesting point that after watching this, I

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Speaker 2: oh two one zero so groundbreaking and so like just

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Speaker 2: willing to address these things? And I attribute that a

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Speaker 2: lot to your dad, Tori. Then I also was like,

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Speaker 2: or does life just never change? Do these issues just well?

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Speaker 3: Regardless, the show was definitely groundbreaking because we were the

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Speaker 3: first show talking about it on primetime television and certainly

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Speaker 3: the first show ever talking about it to this younger

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Speaker 3: audience for sure.

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Speaker 2: So true, Jenny. It's like I also felt this episode

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Speaker 2: did not land on me back then in the same

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Speaker 2: way it does now. It's just watching it completely from

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Speaker 2: a different perspective as an adult. Yeah, I think most

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Speaker 2: of it probably sort of went over my head or

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Speaker 2: I just didn't pay attention or realize the signal the

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Speaker 5: Which is a risk they took because when dealing with

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Speaker 5: young people and you know, here we are, we keep

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Speaker 5: keg parties and all the romances in the scandal, and

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Speaker 5: then to take us into something that's just like a

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Speaker 5: hard hitting topic feels almost like off point but very

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Speaker 5: nine to two one zero. But they took a big

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Speaker 5: chance that the audience would be, like young kids would

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Speaker 5: be like, I don't want to see this.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to watch this episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they hit it hard too, like really hard.

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Speaker 4: Was a balance, I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 3: It was a little heavy handed, but it was such

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Speaker 3: a heavy topic. Yeah, and important to so many people,

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Speaker 3: so many people around the world, but so many people

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Speaker 3: involved in the production of our show, like you know.

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Speaker 2: So they handled it well too, not just with my

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four eyes, but with today, Like it wasn't

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Speaker 2: I thought it was handled well. I thought if I

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Speaker 2: presented fairly well. The you know, per usual, the let's

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Speaker 2: tie it up with a bow and we're all so

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Speaker 2: happy is always a little nine o two in OI.

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Speaker 2: But otherwise I don't have a lot of criticism of it.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we remind people, What the heck we're talking?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Uh? This is season five, episode eleven. Hate is just

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Speaker 3: a four letter word, aired November sixteenth, nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 4: Synopsis.

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Speaker 5: Racial tensions hit the campus of California University, putting Brandon's peacekeeping.

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Speaker 4: Skills to the test.

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Speaker 5: Kelly's photo shoot gets canceled, Donna's party gets ruined, and

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Speaker 5: Dylan gets threatened by his no good drug dealer.

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Speaker 3: Directed by Les Landa, written by Richard Golance and Charles Rosen.

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Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, can we get the one most awkward

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Speaker 2: thing in this whole episode out of the way, though,

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Speaker 2: the one literally I get it, there's one gasped out loud.

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Speaker 2: There was one. I guess Jenny will get it. You'll

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Speaker 3: Wait, okay, was it with Brandon? Yes, it was with

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Speaker 3: brand Is it's something Brandon said Kelly.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember who he said it to, but it

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Speaker 3: What was it? Slap and tickle?

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Speaker 2: No, but I can't wait to talk about that. It

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Speaker 2: was when they said I'm just gonna acknowledge it next year.

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Speaker 2: Could you get Bill Cosby?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, God, so that was okay?

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Speaker 3: Then to reference him.

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Speaker 2: Of course, and it totally made sense then, But that

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Speaker 3: Well, how could he have known?

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Speaker 2: They know so much on but they didn't not.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we're so ahead of our time.

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Speaker 2: Did not get that one?

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Speaker 4: Then it was you couldn't have known.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pudding and the Cosby Show was quite well liked.

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Speaker 3: Then, Yeah, I thought you were gonna say it was

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Speaker 3: when Brandon asked Kelly if she wanted to go back

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Speaker 3: to her place and do a little slap and tickle.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so what's a slap and tickle?

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Speaker 5: By the exactly what only Kelly would Apparently it's their thing,

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Speaker 5: a slap and tickle.

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Speaker 3: I guess that was something that like things we said

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Speaker 2: Then that was actually bananas.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean He's gonna slap me and I'm

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Speaker 5: Him or like a like a slap your fanny and.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is. It's creepy and I don't want that visual.

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Speaker 5: That's gross, especially for like someone young to be like

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Speaker 5: that sounds like something like Jim Walsh might say to Cindy.

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Speaker 4: Like, hey, let's go upstairs and do a little slap

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Speaker 2: I put it not murders. Actually, how about Jim Walsh

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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, all right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, leave it to Jimbo.

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Speaker 2: Everybody got it right, especially although Jesse and Andrea we

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Speaker 4: Other than carry a baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, when Grandma Rose, is that Grandma Rose? When

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Speaker 3: Grandma Rose dropped the line about him being him dying

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Speaker 3: in the camps, like all of a sudden, the episode

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Speaker 3: just took a turn from Hi, yeah, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: It was so heavy saying that Hannah looks like him,

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: And again I was left to not really know what

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Speaker 2: it was just all of it just was too much

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so much. It was hard for me

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Speaker 2: I felt the same way. It was a little Brandony

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Speaker 5: Totally Brandon Jason Jason.

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Speaker 2: So I thought that was that was interesting, you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know this episode was really important to

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Speaker 5: But my dad, it was really important that he wanted

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Speaker 2: And he okay, I'm sorry to get sidetracked on such

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Speaker 2: Better.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I.

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Speaker 2: And then Iris kind of liking Valerie. Oh, like telling

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Speaker 2: I mean, all the rest of you forgot about him though,

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Speaker 4: But there's flag football again.

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Speaker 2: There was some flag football, remember Brandon episode this one too,

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Speaker 4: I don't you guys with the football.

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Speaker 2: I'm lost.

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Speaker 3: They lost, They got all dirty Brandon, Brandon missed the game.

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Speaker 4: Like cute dirty I fast forward.

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Speaker 2: I know Muddy. I liked when Rush called Steve Stevie Wonder.

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Where was that There was a scene of Kelly and

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Speaker 3: That was handheld before there was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was literally a handheld camera. They didn't have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that thing. You know what. I I

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Speaker 2: Jenny alluded to this. It's it's like I was supposed

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Speaker 4: Hello, they've been on so many times, Like.

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Speaker 3: So that was keep it straight and I was like, wait,

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Speaker 5: Back, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was like, oh.

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Speaker 3: But I will tell you when Brandon Brandon with that gavel.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I thought that was hot. I watched it twice.

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Speaker 3: You guys, but.

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Speaker 2: Who brings their girlfriend to their like board meeting, like

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Speaker 3: Well, he thought it was going to be quick and

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Speaker 5: Hello, she's number two on the call sheet. Of course

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Speaker 4: I don't care if it makes sense. I want to

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Speaker 3: She's supporting her boyfriend who. By the way, I really

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Speaker 3: it just makes me happy as a person watching it totally.

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Speaker 4: Like they don't seem fun.

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Speaker 3: You don't think they seems fun. What the discussions they

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Speaker 4: They're so I don't know, there's nothing see.

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Speaker 3: No, They're they're like a yeah, like teenage lovers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I want to see a little bit of

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Speaker 2: A slap and tickle.

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Speaker 4: Okay, sure, you know.

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Speaker 5: What I'll take. I'll take it. That grosses me out,

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Speaker 5: but I'll take it. At this point, I like them.

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Speaker 2: You're wearing a bit of a prairie dress.

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Speaker 3: Now, I my note was I want that dress immediately?

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Speaker 3: That dress. I loved it so much, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: So should we talk about Ray or more of the

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Speaker 2: I love Sean.

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Speaker 4: We love when he comes back.

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Speaker 2: They give him two seconds of screen time.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he always looks hot.

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Speaker 2: He always comes in with the wise words and like

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Speaker 3: Because he was barely in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one scene, half a scene. Yeah, so what about

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Speaker 2: Ray's birthday? And that Ray is twenty five and Donna

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Speaker 3: Oh what was Ray doing in the beach apartment? Was

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Speaker 2: With his tank top with his tank there when he

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Speaker 4: He was repairing something, and.

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Speaker 2: That's when we learned he was fixing the faucet. That's

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Speaker 3: I didn't care. All I cared about was Claire's cute

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Speaker 5: You?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 5: I went back and I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: I was how old?

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Speaker 3: I don't do math?

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Speaker 4: Twenty I was twenty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we were.

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Speaker 5: All just lost the Casper thing. So I was still

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Speaker 3: When did you get when the altercation with the bird happened?

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Speaker 4: Wait?

450
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 5: It was before my twenty first birthday? So was I

451
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 5: not twenty one yet?

452
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: Does that mean somebody tell me what's happened?

453
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 5: I'm born in seventy three. Yeah, okay, so that was it.

454
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 5: So I didn't see a band aid, but something I saw.

455
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: I saw like a flesh colored tape thing over your

456
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: nose and into every time you're on camera, I could

457
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: see it.

458
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: It looked like I was like powder.

459
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 5: It looked like I done cocaine, which I hadn't done.

460
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: And I thought to myself, Okay, I know how your

461
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: brain works. I know how in your head you were

462
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: at that time about being a camera with that on

463
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: your nose, and I was my.

464
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 4: Nose in general, and you know how I feel about

465
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 4: the nose.

466
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 3: What happened after a bird bites it off?

467
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 2: Bird bit your nose? Just tell me everything.

468
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: No one ever believes the story, but Jen is there,

469
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 5: so she knows it's real. People think I make this

470
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 5: up as like party fodder when I tell this at

471
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 5: a party, but it's a good So. I had gone

472
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 5: with the bad boyfriend at the time, Nick to Hawaii

473
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 5: with Shannon and Dean Factor on the same vacation. That's

474
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 5: when she got engaged and also broke up. There was

475
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 5: the yeah, she threw the crystal dolphin like.

476
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 4: That whole thing. You've told you that story, right, But

477
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: then they got back together. Okay.

478
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 5: In that same trip, you could go You can't do

479
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 5: this nowadays, but you could just walk in the streets and.

480
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 4: They would sell you parents a colectus parents.

481
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 5: Big red ones were females, big green ones were males.

482
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 4: Nothing that was it. You bought a parrot. They gave

483
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 4: you a parrot, and you could and.

484
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 5: Support it home from why La on the plane, I

485
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 5: don't know different, So you bought a bird. So Nick

486
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 5: and I decided we're going to buy a bird, because

487
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 5: that's just that seems like the next step in a.

488
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 4: Totally dysfunctional relationship.

489
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 5: So we bought a bird that I named Charlie, even

490
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 5: though she was a girl, which was hardly went on

491
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 5: to be my first husband's name Charlie anyway, whole different story.

492
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 5: He was nice, but this bird really great bird. They're

493
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 5: very communicative. She had my voice, so I would always

494
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 5: come home and I'd be like.

495
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 4: I'm Charlie Bird, and she'd be like.

496
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 5: And talk just like me, which is crazy, but sadly,

497
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 5: you know. I would have to go to work all

498
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 5: day and we worked crazy hours, so she would be

499
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 5: home alone. He didn't work, so he was home with her,

500
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: and she progressively got like war anxiety and meaner, to

501
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 5: the point where, like my friends and I if we

502
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 5: would have her out and she would dance, since she

503
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: would sit on me at night and I'd be like

504
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 5: looking at my lines and she'd be like sitting with

505
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 5: me in bed and cuddling in my hair and was

506
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 5: the sweetest thing. And she'd do all these funny dances.

507
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 5: And then she got to a point where something was

508
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 5: going wrong in her life, which makes.

509
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: Happening in Hawaii anymore.

510
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, or like I was in a bad relationship, she

511
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 5: also was in.

512
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 4: A bad relationship.

513
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: She felt it.

514
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 5: Ramah and she literally like we would take her out,

515
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 5: my friends and I and like she would run at

516
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 5: the door and we'd have to lock ourselves in the bathroom.

517
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: She'd be like pepping at the door, and.

518
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 5: I was like, something's wrong with Charlie, Like she's not happy.

519
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 5: I don't know what's happened. So anyway, I came home

520
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 5: one night from work and I would always go to

521
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 5: the cage and be like, oh, Charlie, I wouldn't stick

522
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 5: my nose in the cage, and she'd come and go

523
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 5: with her little black country go kiss me. And this

524
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 5: one night, apparently he had been screaming at her all

525
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 5: day and I didn't know this, but when I got home,

526
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 5: he wasn't there, and I went to the cage and

527
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 5: went Charlie bird, and she came up and just grabbed

528
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 5: my nose so hard and wouldn't let go, and she

529
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 5: was going ah, And I froze because I was like,

530
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 5: I don't know how to get out of this. So

531
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 5: I froze for a second.

532
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: I said, you're okay, You're okay, and.

533
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 5: For some reason and it hurt like it was she

534
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 5: let go and I was like, whoa, I saw stars.

535
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 4: I was like, that was painful. Their beaks are so

536
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 4: sharp and she was a big bird.

537
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 5: And I just remember walking to the guest bathroom and

538
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 5: looking in the mirror and I couldn't see anything because

539
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 5: it was just blood covering down here and I had

540
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 5: no idea what had happened. I called my then boyfriend

541
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 5: and said, emergency, I need to go, like nine one one.

542
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 5: I got to go to the emergency room. The bird,

543
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 5: I think, just bit my nose off like something bad.

544
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 5: And he was like, I'm at the casino, sorry, an

545
00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 5: hour away.

546
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to call your mom.

547
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my cool, okay, thanks, So

548
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 5: I called my mom. Thank goodness. My mom was like, okay,

549
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 5: we're not going to the er. You need a plastic

550
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 5: surgeon because it was bad, you guys, she had ripped

551
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 5: right here. I had to get eight stitches. I still have.

552
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 5: I still have the scar. And they said if she

553
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 5: had gone a tiny bit more, it was already split open.

554
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 5: It would have been like off, like they wouldn't have

555
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: been able to put my nose back together, but she

556
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 5: took me to this is weird, you guys, doctor Hofflin.

557
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 5: Does this name ring a bell? Michael Jackson, doctor Hofflin,

558
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: Is that ring any bells?

559
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? I got nothing.

560
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 5: He was like his plastic surgeon, like very involved in

561
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: all his like everything, but was a plastic surgeon. My

562
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 5: parents knew of and knew him and called him. He

563
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 5: met us at the office and sewed it up and

564
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: I had to have stitches. But then I had to

565
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 5: go to work, which was mortified, and they couldn't write

566
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: me out so they had to put a band aid.

567
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: Theack.

568
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: Oh you Well, My point was you did a really

569
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: good job of acting, because I know how hard that

570
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: must have been for you, because you probably were super

571
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: self conscious more self I didn't even see it at

572
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: that age.

573
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not even see it.

574
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: You. I had like issues with my nose and didn't

575
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 5: feel good about it, and then got my god a

576
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 5: nose job and felt like it was a botch nose job.

577
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 5: To this day, you know, I still am weird about

578
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 5: my nose and only turned.

579
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: To the side. But the good side that I like is.

580
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 5: Actually the one that there's a scar, a really bad

581
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 5: scar here. And when I tell people it's still a parent,

582
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 5: they think, Okay, what's the real story. I'm like, no,

583
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 5: a parrot bit through my nose, a parent wide open anyhow.

584
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: And then I gave Remember I gave that parent to

585
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 5: Nick Scillachi, our makeup artist. Yeah, because my mom was like,

586
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 5: you got to get rid of the parrot that could

587
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 5: have been your eye. And I was like, oh my gosh,

588
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 5: but parents live to be like eighty nine, you have

589
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 5: to will them.

590
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: So he had a big farm and ran. She was

591
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: our makeup artist. They had long to the animals, like

592
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 4: eighty ninety.

593
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 2: Years you was a parent's still around?

594
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sure.

595
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 5: Wow, we should ask Nick where Charlie Bird is.

596
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: It's going to stay with me. I think all the

597
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: things in this episode and just how like, well.

598
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: First of all, it's going to stay with me. Noah,

599
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: the guy that was talking to Andrea, like the activist

600
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: when he comes in to talk to her and she's like, teh,

601
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: her work. It really gets up in there.

602
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And at first I have that moment where I

603
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: was like, is it him? But no, it's the laundromat guy, right,

604
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: Like Tory, it's yeah. At first I had a moment

605
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: of like, oh, but then you realize he sought her out.

606
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: He was a little bit of a canniver because he

607
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: acts like, oh, Andrea, I haven't seen you in a while.

608
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: And then he's like I found you because of Brandon,

609
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: which I thought was, you know, that's not really that's

610
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: not cool. But whatever, it worked and she went right

611
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: to Brandon's which I there is a moment in that scene.

612
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys saw when she's going

613
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: up the stairs and Brandon like hats her, holds her

614
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: back kind of as she's walking up and looks at

615
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: Jim and Cindy with the eyes like I don't know

616
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: what she's doing here. I was like, good eye acting.

617
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 5: Acting.

618
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: You made a note about that?

619
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: I sure did, He's all I was like, can I

620
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: do that with my eyes?

621
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: I made a note about Brandon doing the half tuck

622
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: before the half tuck was a thing.

623
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, way, that's a good note. When did he

624
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: do that?

625
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: Like the front of the shot, I thought he looked

626
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: just really hot in this episode. I'm all all about

627
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: Brandon right now. Henny had all the silver bracelets.

628
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: On, yeah, and the great color choices of his polos

629
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: because they really brought out his eyes, both the bluish

630
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: green and the burgundy. I was like, oh, it all right,

631
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: he likes a polo.

632
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: Andrea says something that was interesting. No, it wasn't Andrea,

633
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: it was Janie. Janna says, you're either down with the

634
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: First Amendment or you're not yes.

635
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: Which yes, which That's why this episode is so complicated.

636
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: There's like fourteen issues being discussed all at the same time.

637
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: And I was like, an excellent point, Janie. That being said,

638
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: I don't know about this Roland Turner guy. It was

639
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: so complicated. I understand why Brandon had stained because I

640
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what I would do. This

641
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: is a hot mess and very violent. There's sort of

642
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: some really aggressive like yes, the scene with the with

643
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: the with the swastikas on the building was very upsetting.

644
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: And then I also understood when Brandon says they want

645
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: them to remain there until tomorrow, because they're saying this

646
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: could happen again. And You're like, this episode is so intense,

647
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: It's filled with so much that just resonated today, just

648
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: over and over again, especially with people saying things you

649
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: to be so careful with your words, even though yes,

650
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: the First Amendment is so important, but you do have

651
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: to be so careful with your words and the power

652
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: of your words. Oh, I don't know.

653
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, well, yeah, they started to

654
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: go at it for real.

655
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, this whole episode is just very like the same

656
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: thing as wanting to talk to Chuck about the dream episode.

657
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: I really want to talk to him about this, which

658
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: I did try. He's on a plane, but maybe we

659
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: can get him for the next episode. There's just so

660
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: much to this. They must have rewritten this so carefully,

661
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: so much many times, unless maybe I don't know, maybe

662
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: I's got it right the first.

663
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: Time, but we should definitely ask him.

664
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: It's just such a serious episode, and I I just

665
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: it's overwhelming, especially because of today. And I wonder if

666
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 2: Chuck how he feels about it today. He must be

667
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: quite proud of himself.

668
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: I would think, yeah.

669
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Speaker 2: I would be if I were him. I wish I

670
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: could ask your dad too, Torri about this episode. There's

671
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: so many times when I think about that, but this one,

672
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: like what it meant at the time. I don't know

673
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: any Jenny changes subject the Gibson guitar we didn't talk

674
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: about that.

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00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Donna just comes in hot with that gift

676
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: for Ray. Yeahs gives guitar.

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00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 5: Weird foreshadowing because I've given a guitar to a boyfriend

678
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 5: after this like later and then too husband.

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00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: In real life later. Yeah, oh wow.

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00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: I was like, that's so bizarre.

681
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: They have such mixed feelings about Ray.

682
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he snooze a rooney.

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00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: I'm also just always like I'm so used to that

684
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: scene where there's just really a violent scene that I'm

685
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 2: always jarred by him, just always honest.

686
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: I mean, his character's just written so snoozy, like he

687
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: really doesn't do anything.

688
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: Until he does.

689
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: Oh okay.

690
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if that was intentional too, to make him sort.

691
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: Of seem the opposite.

692
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: Hmm hmmm.

693
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: So Pop didn't see you coming?

694
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: I don't know, did you make them you want to

695
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 5: see them together? Like it's just like they give him nothing.

696
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: He's just like, there's sweet.

697
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: He's very all about her, which I think becomes the problem.

698
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe did you see No No the makeup artist

699
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: in the Wow when Kelly was in the makeup trailer

700
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: for her big Foot, Oh didn't happen? The lady that

701
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: was doing her makeup was no, no, no.

702
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: The real makeup artist.

703
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, no way. When they do that, that's pretty cool.

704
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: I can't The seventeen storyline is interesting too, because there's

705
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: there's obviously more to it.

706
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: But it's not happening.

707
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: Well I think it is. You're gonna get the cover now,

708
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: and it's just going to be different.

709
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: It's gonna be things different.

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00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

711
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't know what you guys are talking about.

712
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: It's setting a lot up.

713
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: There's just so much in this episode, all at the

714
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: same time. Like I'm supposed to keep like all this straight,

715
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: and it's like, I can't do it.

716
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 3: Do you Like when Brandon goes to the gym and

717
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 3: he always works out at the same arm machine. He's

718
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: always at that fly machine that looks like it's from

719
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies.

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00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: Oh, and then there's a sort of moment between Andrea

721
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: and Brandon. He comes out all sweaty because he works

722
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: out in the morning, and obviously she's up because of

723
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: the baby, and they sort of have this moment like,

724
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: I guess we don't know our schedules anymore. And then

725
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: she does give the heartfelt apology, which I actually like.

726
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: I like her, like Andrea. She's a hot head.

727
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's very opinionated and not afraid to voice her opinions,

728
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 3: which is great. But I think what you said before,

729
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: she doesn't really leave a lot of room for other

730
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: people to have their opinions. And Jesse called that out, like,

731
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: oh he really, Yeah, this is getting a little frictious

732
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: in their relationship. Oh, I don't think that's gonna work out.

733
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: I would give the episode award if there is one.

734
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: Though to the to Gramma Rose, she's really comes with

735
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: the wise words. Her experience with Colleena.

736
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 5: Jer Zanne just never came back.

737
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: It's just so weird.

738
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: No, yeah, we have a different lady.

739
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, she had one episode and then just never came

740
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 5: back as Gramdmar Rose.

741
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: Like there, I know, I wish, Yeah, it's I wish

742
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: she had stayed.

743
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: But this Grammar Rose, this is that was a good

744
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: performance and I do want to see her interview she did.

745
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: What what about the moment at the end when Brandon

746
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: turns around and sees that David has joined Andrea and

747
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: accepted and stepped up to his religion. You know, he's

748
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: found courage in everybody else, finding the courage.

749
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: And the importance the importance of it.

750
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: Supporting it. I liked it all, did feel that that

751
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: moment was so hokey.

752
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 2: Bit of a bow, A bit of bow, like all

753
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: is right in the world, not wealthy.

754
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: Here, everything's so yeah.

755
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: Throughout the series though, it's not like this is the

756
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: first time, like we they definitely dabble in, always touching

757
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: on this. But yeah, I does ties up in a bow.

758
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: So well in the next episode, will it be all different? Not?

759
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: I think it's not for to again. Yeah, I don't

760
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: think it isn't it's over, I'm not. I'm pretty sure

761
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: it's not even mentioned.

762
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 4: The next one called.

763
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: What the next one is called Rock of Ages episode twelve.

764
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: That's y'all's homework by the way, to watch.

765
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah twelve and hard to find? Yeah to find?

766
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 4: Where can they find it?

767
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: Again? It's online on YouTube, Lorraine, but I think it's

768
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: on the DVDs.

769
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: You found it on daily Mail?

770
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: No, daily Motion? Sorry, I called, I'm sorry.

771
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: It is the end start with me.

772
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: If you have the DVDs, it's on there, and then

773
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: it's also on daily Motion, which I don't know what

774
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: that is, but I'm gonna go dig in for it. Yeah,

775
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: I definitely have the DVDs. I just don't have a

776
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: DVD player. Gotta deal with that's such.

777
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: I feel like we talked about everything for this episode.

778
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 3: I mean, there's definitely a lot in there that we

779
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: probably grazed over. But is it grazed or glazed? Glazed?

780
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: Glazes a donut.

781
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: If you graze over something, it means you're eating it

782
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: as you go.

783
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, blazed over light glazed lost. Perhaps you know,

784
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: it's hard to.

785
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: We did our best like a grazing. Grazing.

786
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: It's hard to talk about a date for a birthday

787
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: and anti semitism at the same time. I'm not gonna lie.

788
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: It's really hard.

789
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 3: It was an odd mix.

790
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so send us your comments and let us know.

791
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: We have to this episode. I feel like we could

792
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 4: get in trouble.

793
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm just giving it a ten based on the fact

794
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: that it could not be more current.

795
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: It's like, you know what, great, first, this is the

796
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: first solid all tens there you go ever in the

797
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 3: history of nine or two and oers.

798
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: We're dancing with the stars.

799
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: I'm jumping up and down right now. So that's what

800
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: they do when you get tens. Okay, so next week

801
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: we're gonna watch that episode and we're gonna talk about it.

802
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: It's gonna be great, and you guys are all going

803
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: to have the best week ever because we love you.

804
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: This is true.

805
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: By guys, Happy Thanksgiving.

806
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving, everybody, have a safe and wonderful Thanksgiving.

807
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: Meeting. You love you, but