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Speaker 2: The hell was that fruitfly? Oh? Yeah, there's nats in

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Speaker 2: there for some reason. Go figure. Have you looked around?

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Speaker 2: Are they falling? Lee around?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, brou I'm not even going to put this on Lee.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this. I'll say this. The way.

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Speaker 4: This this, this place looks like there's going to be.

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Speaker 2: More than that.

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Speaker 4: You know what's use by the way. You won't see

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Speaker 4: me if I see a rat or if it's I'm out.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know what's impressive about this place. There's every type

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Speaker 3: of cleaning product.

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Speaker 2: You could think of, and nobody using people, but just.

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Speaker 3: Like full full sanitizers. Uh, this thing's filled to the

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Speaker 3: I use this, yeah. But other than that, Yeah, this place,

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, it's a war zone and filth. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, man, I don't want to get into all

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Speaker 3: of it because I don't want to have to have

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Speaker 3: no calls or anything. But I didn't do it, so

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone blame you. Man. You're you're a

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Speaker 2: very hygienic clean guy, I really am. I'm not. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even in here a lot anymore. Who would

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Speaker 4: you blame Brady if he had.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I can't put all on Loreno, but

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Speaker 5: I mean Loreno would be part of that crew.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Lee, I mean Ray Ray Studio, Ray Ray. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying, like, you got to keep Lee in live.

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Speaker 2: We know he's pig pen so yes, but you know

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Speaker 2: he's actually very considerate, especially about the trash cans in here,

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Speaker 2: which is where the fruit flies come from. Okay, you

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Speaker 2: say that.

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Speaker 5: You say that, yet his butt is constantly leaking and

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Speaker 5: he you up in that studio all the time. So

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Speaker 5: how is he considering?

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Speaker 2: Hey, what did he say on the show? I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's clearly like there's light saw in here.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, there's a gazillion hand sanitizers in there.

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Speaker 4: I'm just it's just so messy and junkie in here.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Yeah, some's got to change here.

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Speaker 4: Your working conditions can't be like this anyway.

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Speaker 3: Hey, as long as it sounds good, as long as

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Speaker 3: they pay you, right, that's that's the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: And what what your what's your work? And that is

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Speaker 3: Well, it was officially the last weekend without football, but

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Speaker 3: it was not the last time we'll hear of drama

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Speaker 3: involving the Dallas Cowboys in a contract, and the Dallas

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Speaker 3: Cowboys have figured it out in Micah Parsons does not

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Speaker 3: want to be a cowboy, at least according to what

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Speaker 3: he put out on social media on Friday. Its basically

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Speaker 3: just said, yeah, I'm good here. I felt like he

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Speaker 3: was disrespected, et cetera, et cetera. And so Jerry Jones

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Speaker 3: was up an Oxnard and he was having this fruitful

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Speaker 3: literally that's aggressive. This thing almost went in my mind aggressive,

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Speaker 3: it's give this thing really is aggressive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get him Jesus Christ. Elusive.

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Speaker 3: All right, So Jerry Jones, maybe it was Jerry sentiment.

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Speaker 3: But Jerry Jones spoke in Oxnard on Friday, reached and

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Speaker 3: he was definitely definitely a little pissy when the conversation

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Speaker 3: turned to the Micah Parsons trade request.

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Speaker 6: I'm starting negotiations in March, I said, I started negotiation

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Speaker 6: in March, and I've negotiated double handfuls and contracts just

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Speaker 6: like I did in March. He thought it was again

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Speaker 6: again again, but again, are you asking me, Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: started that in March. I goest together in a negotiations associating.

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Speaker 2: The meeting is about leadership, not about his contract.

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Speaker 7: It's my answer. It's my answer.

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Speaker 6: I was negotiating in March, as always in any relationships

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Speaker 6: what it is. Don't lose in sleepover to Jerry, one

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Speaker 6: thing I would say to our fan, don't lose in sleepover.

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Speaker 2: Just to be clear, you don't feel the relationship has a.

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Speaker 6: Again, I know my attitude, and my attitude is the

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Speaker 3: So Jerry Jones discussing the Micah Parsons situation in Auxnard.

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Speaker 2: Why is it so difficult for them?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you look at other organizations who are able

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Speaker 5: like a team that's won the Super Bowl signed guys

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Speaker 2: And look, Philly has had their moments.

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Speaker 5: Where they've been frustrated with all Nick Sirianni's success, like

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys do.

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Speaker 5: So either he's just tired of listening about it, and

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Speaker 5: the deal's gonna get done soon, or maybe there's more there.

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Speaker 5: A I mean, there's a lot of that whole March

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like he offered a contract. He said he offered

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Speaker 4: him a nice contract, a fair contract. But he offered

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Speaker 4: him a contract. It's like it's basically being put out there.

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Speaker 4: He didn't want to talk to the agent. He doesn't

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Speaker 4: want to negotiate with the agent, and that's from his mouth.

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Speaker 4: I think those are his words. I don't think he's

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Speaker 5: Which I mean, here's here's what I'd say about that,

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Speaker 5: That's like, I don't want to talk to the guy

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Speaker 5: who's ultimately I mean, the agent can say whatever he

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Speaker 5: let's sign the steal. Is that is that accurate? You

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Speaker 5: gotta talk to the agent. Man Like, I won't put

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Speaker 5: I cut out one of the agents. I will usually

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Speaker 5: just say act as a dual agent, but I'll kind

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Speaker 2: I do it all the time.

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with you, but standard procedure and protocol

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Speaker 4: as it has historically applied, you talk to the agent.

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Speaker 4: That you talk to the agent, the agent goes back

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Speaker 4: to the player, talk to the player whatever to play.

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Speaker 4: Either the player is saying get the deal done and

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Speaker 4: But general generally speaking, he can't be green to the

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Speaker 4: like that's not it's it's you know, why not just

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Speaker 2: To the agent. Well, he gave you the reason.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, if you if you read what

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Speaker 5: he said about the des Brian situation. He said, agents

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Speaker 2: Mean, I don't feel like that justifies one to the other. No,

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Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of agents, so I'm not and

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely not a fan of MIC's agent, so I'm

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Speaker 4: not even in the conversation to support or defend anything

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Speaker 4: that has to do. There's maybe a handful of agents

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Speaker 2: I believe it at Stale, you got to use your representation.

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Speaker 5: Jerry Jones is the common denominator in all of this.

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Speaker 5: It's not I mean players have come and gone, agents

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Speaker 4: Does this feel different though than it feels a little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I just the Dak and the de and

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Speaker 4: Then de respond to Jerry Jones saying what he said

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he said, be careful about opening up that box

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Speaker 4: Whatever that means. Yeah, I was saying that Micah. Micah

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Speaker 2: Because now he's looking elsewhere. Yeah for that God, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like you can tell just by the messaging everything that

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Speaker 4: You know, I think to say taking it personal, I

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Speaker 4: This has hurt his feelings, This has hurt him. Now

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Speaker 4: people might say, well, I ain't. No, feelings shouldn't be involved,

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Speaker 4: and they shouldn't to a certain degree, but in sports,

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Speaker 4: When you make people feel the way that they feel.

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Speaker 4: And this is clearly, this is clearly a situation where

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Speaker 4: is is that is that the communication is taking place

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Speaker 3: Because I think everybody's in agreement that this deal should

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Speaker 5: That card if you're the Dallas Cowboys, only because you

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Speaker 5: He's always the common denominator in this entire issue that

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Speaker 5: Like that's the truth, that's the reality, and it's Jerry

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Speaker 4: Talent will never outperform dysfunction. And now you're seeing just

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Speaker 4: It's just what it is. And he is perfectly well

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Speaker 4: And he's clearly by the way. I mean, he gets

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Speaker 4: I think ultimately we can continue to talk about all

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Speaker 2: I wasn't sure what the context.

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Speaker 3: If they didn't want to pay him, they don't have

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the hard part is that this is

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Speaker 5: Again, this would be one of those examples you would

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Speaker 5: like that's the crazy thing is I'm always like, dude,

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Speaker 5: But I digress, Like, it's crazy to think that they've

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Speaker 4: Just feels like there's some irreputable damage done in the scenario.

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Speaker 2: Well there might be some sticking through is that, Like

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Speaker 2: You're a defensive player.

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Speaker 5: Injuries happened, Like we'll guarantee you three years, not four

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Speaker 4: He's way younger than those guys, you know, he's he's

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Speaker 4: out in Dallas. You know, you don't know, you don't

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Speaker 4: really know all of the politics involved. I wouldn't be

436
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Speaker 4: shocked if this was more about the agency. I wonder

437
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Speaker 4: if he changed agents, what the deal get done. You know,

438
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Speaker 4: there's the possibility that his negotiating tactics have been what

439
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Speaker 4: they had been, and now you're in a situation where

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Speaker 4: you're in a standoff and just maybe it's like you're

441
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Speaker 4: not going to do me the way that you did Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: This is Dallas, sir, it's not Cleveland, it's not Ohio,

443
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Speaker 4: and that could be a possibility here as well. All

444
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Speaker 4: I know is whatever it is, I still feel as

445
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Speaker 4: though they needed to try to figure out how to

446
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Speaker 4: keep this more quiet in terms of the discussion points

447
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Speaker 4: of it in the media, so that the damage, you know,

448
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Speaker 4: trust wise or relationship wise, you know, didn't get to

449
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Speaker 4: the point of where it seemingly has gotten to now.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

451
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Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

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Speaker 2: So it's hard hit too.

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Speaker 7: Start suiting the too q.

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Speaker 3: Uh So last hour we ran out of time. We're

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Speaker 3: going to do in case you most up, but we

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Speaker 3: ran a little bit late, so big clocks. We wanted

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Speaker 3: to wanted to make sure that stay on time. You

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Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that we carried on the tradition,

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Speaker 3: so we just moved it to the top of our

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Speaker 3: two So without further ado, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: It is time for this.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of

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Speaker 1: sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to

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Speaker 1: bring you in case you missed it.

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Speaker 3: For that, we turn it over to our executive producer

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Speaker 3: leelap A.

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Speaker 8: Good Monday morning, everybody.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, Brady, Good morning LeVar.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 9: In case you missed it.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 8: During the Pro Football Hall of Fame speeches over this weekend,

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Speaker 8: Mary kay Cabin, of course from Cleveland dot com, famous

475
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Speaker 8: Brown's inside insider, she had a few jokes. Mary Kay's

476
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Speaker 8: got the jokes. Take a listen to what she had

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Speaker 8: to say during her speech.

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Speaker 10: Bill Belichick was the first Browns coach I ever covered.

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Speaker 10: You see, if you start out with Bill Belichick, no

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Speaker 10: one can rattle you after that. If Bill didn't like

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Speaker 10: something I wrote, he'd call and yell at me. If

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Speaker 10: you asked a dumb question, he'd call you out. Eventually,

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Speaker 10: I had to learn to stand up to him. During

484
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Speaker 10: one of those yelling matches, I told him, if you

485
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Speaker 10: don't have the footballs to say that to the guys,

486
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Speaker 10: then don't say it to me, bam. But now I

487
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Speaker 10: totally understand why Bill gave me such a hard time.

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Speaker 10: I was twenty eight at the time, and he just

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Speaker 10: couldn't relate to a woman that old.

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Speaker 7: So funny.

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Speaker 3: Man, Wait, go Mary Kay, yay go God?

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Speaker 2: All right. First off, congrats to Mary Kay.

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Speaker 5: Congrats to Mary Kay for willing to build none memorial ward.

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Speaker 5: That's what she was there for. But yeah, I mean, look,

495
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Speaker 5: it's fair game, right, and you're trying to have fun,

496
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Speaker 5: trying to make it light hearted. She probably had her

497
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Speaker 5: run ins with Bill Belichick back in the day. I

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Speaker 5: don't have a problem with it, you know, I don't

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Speaker 5: have a problem with any of it. By the way,

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Speaker 5: not Bill's position, with what he's doing, and not her

501
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Speaker 5: make a joke about it.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, it's all for fun. I agree. Well,

503
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Speaker 2: here's what's not fun.

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Speaker 3: He's got a rocket ship and people need to get

505
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Speaker 3: over it. He should be celebrated and not criticized. That's

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Speaker 3: what's real.

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Speaker 2: Mary Kay. Cabot is a rocket ship. Come on, give

508
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Speaker 2: her some love. What else we got?

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Speaker 3: Lee?

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Speaker 2: Oh dang, you're not in what I thought. He's a

511
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Speaker 2: great reporter. Okay, great reporter. I'm just saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: be nice.

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Speaker 8: Some people were wondering of after a picture went viral

514
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Speaker 8: yesterday of Seahawks rookie second rounder Leijah Royo, whether or

515
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Speaker 8: not he's got to.

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Speaker 2: Move right off? Does he ever? Whoa what do you mean?

517
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Speaker 6: Whoa?

518
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Speaker 2: Lee?

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Speaker 8: I don't know he was where he was rocking some

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Speaker 8: questionable shorts.

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Speaker 3: What there's a lot of questions, Wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, red rays gazing? What's your what's your uh?

523
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: Some some people call that rocket gaze?

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Speaker 3: What's your feedback? N see, I see, I see, I

525
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Speaker 3: see what rocket ship? Indeed, tang in his pocket. But

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Speaker 3: Jesus Leeve, what do you do?

527
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Speaker 2: How do you know? Yeah? Did you look at that long? Hard?

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Speaker 2: What do you.

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Speaker 4: And I got a blue shoo read at the end

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Speaker 4: of the segment. Now, dot com, I've been pro boke

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Speaker 4: out LeVar.

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Speaker 2: You sent that over and that was what you wanted

533
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Speaker 2: to take out of that that you sent in our

534
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Speaker 2: little text change.

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Speaker 8: It was a trading playful Barbes with his fellow rookie rounder.

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Speaker 8: Rookie drafting.

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Speaker 2: There's not much there, though apparently there's a lot that

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Speaker 2: what were you scouting?

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Speaker 5: What are you looking at? Am you're either rocket gazing

540
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Speaker 5: with Rey Ray or dang.

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Speaker 8: I was just yeah, I wonder your guys two cents

542
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Speaker 8: on the rookie barbers best back and forth.

543
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Speaker 2: I'm not what else you got? What else you got, guys?

544
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Speaker 2: Pills running back?

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Speaker 8: James Cook is on a hold end if you want

546
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Speaker 8: to say, he's at p but uh not participating in

547
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Speaker 8: mandatory accounts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get the Summer Slam. You have Summer Slam

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Speaker 2: on there.

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Speaker 8: I wanted to watch Summer Slam, but as you guys know,

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Speaker 8: I was on an excursion last night to do my

552
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Speaker 8: fantasy draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that you were on a By

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Speaker 3: the way, by the way, you want to know, you

555
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Speaker 3: want to know what's so ridiculous about that that you'll

556
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Speaker 3: literally look for any excuse to lick the lid. Nobody

557
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: has a party to celebrate deciding the draft order. Nobody.

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Speaker 3: You do it online and it's just automatic. That's so lame,

559
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Speaker 3: it's just automatic.

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Speaker 2: You're wrong. Get drunk, No, no, you gotta get drunk

561
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Speaker 2: and go play some darts and you figure out that way. Yeah, exactly,

562
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Speaker 2: nobody does that.

563
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Speaker 8: Which, by the way, we went to this die bar.

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Speaker 8: It's called the Chimney Sweep, very well known here in

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Speaker 8: the valley.

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Speaker 2: I know that place.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Minnie was the bartender. She she died three years ago,

568
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Speaker 8: but she's still there. She was making a white Russian.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain that's ancient?

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Speaker 9: She's ancient. She's very old, is what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 8: She my buddy ordered a white Russian and they didn't

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Speaker 8: have creams, so she just poured whipped cream on it

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Speaker 8: and mixed it in there.

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Speaker 2: What a place.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they closed down because they were selling drugs out

577
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Speaker 8: of the back, and they just reopened.

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Speaker 2: How old is this? How old is this lady that

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Speaker 2: you were getting drinks from? Oh?

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Speaker 9: She had to be in her late eighties?

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Speaker 2: Really? Yeah? Is she good looking for late eighties? Sure? Minis? Yeah.

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Speaker 9: She was a firecracker.

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Speaker 8: Could she get that work? Answer the question, Dolly Parton,

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Speaker 8: She didn't have hammer. If she had hammer, she would

585
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Speaker 8: have fallen over. Late eighties, still slinging drinks.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 4: There's a reason why she's there, that's all I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: tell you. You're behind the bar, there's a reason why

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Speaker 4: you're there. You know, you know it's a good bartender.

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Speaker 4: When she asks you, do you want your drink strong

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Speaker 4: or light. It's like no extra charge, just you want

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Speaker 4: to strong drink or not?

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Speaker 2: What was your answer?

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: As strong as you can make it, mini man, that'd

595
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Speaker 4: be delightful. Many make it a tad bit stronger.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we got to go to a bar. We're picking

597
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Speaker 2: the draft or we had to literally automatic.

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Speaker 8: We had to find a place with good That turned

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Speaker 8: out that chimney sweep has the one of those plastic

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Speaker 8: dart boards, so we had to leave there.

601
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Speaker 9: We had to go find a real dart board.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Oh wow, the life you live, bro? What

603
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Speaker 2: else you got?

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's what else you got?

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Speaker 2: Okay? How about this?

606
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Speaker 8: Uh, Colt's running back, Salvin Achmed. You know he's gonna

607
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Speaker 8: He got a severe leg injury yesterday with a Savon

608
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Speaker 8: Achmed Savon Achmed.

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Speaker 2: I said Achmed? Right?

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Speaker 4: Say his first name was hip Drive, I said, salkay Achmed.

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Speaker 9: Uh, apologies, it's been a while since I've said his name.

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Speaker 9: He's yeah, Akmed.

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Speaker 8: I had a severe leg injury yesterday after a hip

614
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Speaker 8: drop tackle took him out.

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00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 9: So yeah, tough, tough.

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Speaker 2: Have you gotten the summer slam? Or do you just talking?

617
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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 8: I told you I couldn't. I didn't get the chance

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Speaker 8: to watch Summer Slam I was.

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Speaker 2: Looking for apparently, but we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 5: Apparently Logan Paul and this is more genesis category threw

622
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Speaker 5: jelly Roll through a table.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had him laying on the table and then

624
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Speaker 3: he did a frog splash. But he put on he

625
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: was wearing these ray Ban glasses that have a camera

626
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Speaker 3: attached to him and uh, and so he did a

627
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Speaker 3: frog splash off the very top like he The dude's

628
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Speaker 3: athletic as hell.

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Speaker 2: And Logan Paul or log so much weight and he

630
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Speaker 2: trained for this with uh, what's his name? One?

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Speaker 4: It was a wrestler that he trained with for Summer Slam.

632
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Speaker 2: Jelly Roll.

633
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he was with Randy Orton.

634
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Speaker 2: Randy or Y, that's the r KO guy.

635
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Speaker 3: But Randy or jelly Rolls lost what like I think

636
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Speaker 3: two and thirty pounds or something like that.

637
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Speaker 2: And yeah, he did, he did much more.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now, no, he's still looked pretty three that's that's that's

640
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Speaker 5: still a heavy.

641
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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's gone from five forty to three fifty seven.

642
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: Tank. That's awesome though, good for him.

643
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 4: I can relate, good deal, bro, I can totally relate.

644
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 4: We're doing this again, totally can relate.

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Speaker 2: Jelly ro Did you just compare yourself to Jelly Roll?

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Speaker 4: Yes, no, one is such a struggle man. The whole

647
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: thing is it is such a stroke. Yesterday I was

648
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: looking at my belly. I was looking down at my

649
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Speaker 4: belly on the flight back, just like dang fat effort. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I do something with my life, man.

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Speaker 2: All right, go ahead.

652
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Speaker 4: So so jelly Roll got his fat ass slamped onto

653
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Speaker 4: a table.

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Speaker 2: Paul is a super athletic via oh and brock.

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Speaker 4: Lesnar came back spoiler alert for anything. Oh yeah, what

656
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: did he do though? Did did he slam anybody around

657
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Speaker 4: and do anything?

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Speaker 2: He have? Five to John Cena.

659
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very very slim and trim these days too.

660
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Speaker 2: Huh uh. He's still jacked. No, not like you know,

661
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: he's not as big as he used to. He looks very.

662
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: Different, looks like he got off something. I mean, he

663
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: claims to be clean. He looks clean for certain.

664
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Speaker 2: He looks he used to do.

665
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Speaker 3: Uh he used to do bodybuilder like clean bodybuilder contests

666
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: if those even exist.

667
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: He used to. Yeah, he used to back in the day.

668
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: That's his claim.

669
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: You know, some people have questioned that, but that's his claim.

670
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: So but yeah, like the liver King, like same thing.

671
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: That dude's out of his mind.

672
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's HiT's all the way he gone. He's completely

673
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: out of his mind. But he's he's totally monetized himself

674
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: before he full he lost it. He's out of his mind.

675
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: But he's in a lot of money, that's for certain.

676
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: Didn't he didn't he threaten to kill Joe Rogan something

677
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: like that, something to that effect. All right, it's a

678
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: good didn't know that to that liver King. You know,

679
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: well he's speaking of a lot of money.

680
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you see that deal. ESPN just inked up with

681
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 5: the red zone. That's all that too.

682
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Speaker 3: I have one request, because this goes into effect, I

683
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: think next year, don't mess with the red zone, like

684
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: just don't like, leave it alone. Don't try and get

685
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: too cute. Don't try. And you know, I saw some

686
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: people speculating that Steven A. Smith or Pat McAfee we're

687
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: going to host it. Leaves Scott Hansen there, let him

688
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: do it. I understand there's going to be ads. I

689
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: get all that that that's part of it, but just

690
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 3: let it be what it is. It's been a great

691
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: idea one of the greatest inventions in sports TV.

692
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Speaker 2: Don't f that up.

693
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Speaker 3: That's my only request other than that, you know, this

694
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: seems like it's been a long time coming. NFL Network

695
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: just couldn't They couldn't figure it out as much as

696
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: the NFL wanted it to. And I watch a lot

697
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: of the NFL network, I don't assist them very much.

698
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Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't say that they couldn't figure out the

699
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: red zone. They figured that portion of it out. They

700
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: couldn't figure out how to be a media company. Yeah,

701
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: And the reality is it's it's They're the greatest sports

702
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 5: industry in the game of any sport in my opinion.

703
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: Some might we put up soccer overseas against it, maybe worldwide,

704
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 5: but as far as the US goes, it's the greatest

705
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 5: sports league there is. And it's really hard to spin

706
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 5: off like a great media arm name another sport that's

707
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 5: done a really good job of it. Like I actually

708
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 5: love the content from MLB Network, but it's not like

709
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 5: that's competing in a huge way with the other major networks, right,

710
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 5: So that's kind of the one piece of it. I

711
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 5: think a lot of people are wanting though, to your point, like,

712
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 5: what changes would they make that you're willing to do

713
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 5: or the price is going to change. It sounds like

714
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 5: it's going to be a part of ESPN's app, Like

715
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 5: they're streaming app. So it's gonna cost like thirty bucks

716
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 5: a month. Yeah, I believe so. And that's going to

717
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 5: wrap Red Zone into that. So at least for ESPN,

718
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 5: they're providing their consumers a lot better value in what

719
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Speaker 5: they're giving them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's thirty bucks a month.

721
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 5: That's probably worth it as it is compared to some

722
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: other content they've got on there. I know some people

723
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: the Savannah Bananas.

724
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: I know some.

725
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: People would rather watch Red Zone than the actual games

726
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 3: I do.

727
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's I.

728
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Speaker 4: Watched the Riism well only because you can only get

729
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: the games that are in your region, you know what

730
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: I mean? Like I don't I don't have the way

731
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Speaker 4: you Yeah, I don't.

732
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Speaker 2: I don't do that. I just watched the games that are.

733
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: That's got expensive too, so I don't know, and then

734
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: then I go look at the highlights and stuff like that.

735
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean I want Raide Zone. I've

736
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: always had the Raid Zone. I've always watched the Raid Zone.

737
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: So this is what ESPN picked up.

738
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Speaker 5: They are reportedly the NFL is reportedly getting a ten

739
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 5: percent stake in ESPN in exchange for NFL Network, which

740
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Speaker 5: I believe will still be the NFL Network. They're not

741
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: going to change the branding of it, but it's their

742
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 5: twenty four to seven cable channel. They get the NFL

743
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: Red Zone on Sundays with hosted by Scott Hansen. They

744
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 5: get seven additional regular season games the ones that used

745
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: to air on NFL networks, and now ESPN will broadcast those.

746
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 5: The NFL's fantasy football business. But that was more of

747
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: a competitor than anything else, So you're like more consolidating

748
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 5: or I guess kind of taking out one of your competitors.

749
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: So that's not really that big of a deal.

750
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 5: They're not going to work acquire there the NFL films,

751
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: NFL dot Com, or the NFL app or NFL Plus.

752
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 5: But the deal is stated reportedly somewhere in between two

753
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: to three billion dollars depending on the valuation.

754
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Speaker 3: Jesus, they've been trying to sell it for years. Yeah,

755
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: they've been trying.

756
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: Well, they finally did, and they found a partner who

757
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 5: was hungry to get more involved. As you know, the

758
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: streaming partners are kind of lining up, and obviously ESPN

759
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 5: Z owned by Disney, so it makes sense. I mean,

760
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 5: they're going to be a major player as they get

761
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 5: closer and closer to the media rights deal and the

762
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: owners maybe opting out, and who else would become involved,

763
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: whether it's Apple, Amazon, who already know, Netflix who we

764
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 5: already know. I mean, usually there's three, right, Usually there's three.

765
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 5: There was you know, NBC, CBS, Fox, Abc, ESPN came along,

766
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Speaker 5: and there's four. But usually there's there's kind of three,

767
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 5: maybe four. And that's what's gonna be interesting to see

768
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: is as this turns over, the league keeps trying to

769
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 5: drive up revenue. It's in large part are going to

770
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Speaker 5: come from these streaming services who have so much cash.

771
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Speaker 5: I mean, they could buy ESPN if they wanted. I

772
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Speaker 5: mean that's how much money Apple has, That's how much

773
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Speaker 5: money Amazon has. They literally could just acquire them and

774
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Speaker 5: buy them and do it exactly what the ESPN just

775
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 5: did with the NFL network.

776
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

777
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: Just uh, game is changing, man, and the NFL just

778
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: keeps cheering it out. Cash, just keeps cheering it out.

779
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: Cash.

780
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: You got everybody else looking for answers and the NFL

781
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: just keeps printing money.

782
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: I just I have questions though, like who's gonna win

783
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: when they're breaking a story between Adam Schefter, Tom Pella,

784
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 5: Saroonine Rappaport, Because now they're on the same team, it'd

785
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 5: be like a battle Royale for breaking news there, like

786
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: the anchor man. Yeah, they all come out and then

787
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: everybody to cuss and all that. The other thing I

788
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 5: wonder is if you're ESPN now and the NFL is

789
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 5: ten percent, like, how's that gonna work. There's gonna be

790
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: some things that maybe the NFL doesn't want to get out,

791
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 5: Like ESPN's got to have their journalistic integrity, you know

792
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, is there gonna be stuff swept

793
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 5: under the rug because they're in bed together now?

794
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: Oh, but that that'll give Florio more work because he'll

795
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: just he'll be the guy, uh to depression, the legitimacy everything,

796
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: and you know, run with whatever theories he's got as

797
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: to why something's happening.

798
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: So that's good good news for Florio. Well, there you go.

799
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Speaker 5: I mean the last thing too, is and I mentioned

800
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 5: earlier about David White, who finished second to Lloyd Howell

801
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 5: in that very thorough process. The nfl PA utilized a

802
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 5: couple of years ago to hire Lloyd how in the

803
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 5: first place as an executive director. Well, they hired David

804
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 5: White who came in second, to take over as their

805
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 5: interim executive director, maybe permanent. We'll see how things go.

806
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 5: But that deal, this deal still needs to be improved

807
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: by the NFLPA because there's a concern, at least by

808
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 5: some agents out there, that the NFL could then hide

809
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 5: some of the actual revenue that would be gaining from

810
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 5: this deal, which would they try to shield from going

811
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Speaker 5: to the players, because the players now are about a

812
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 5: forty nine percent forty eight, forty nine, forty nine and

813
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 5: a half somewhere in.

814
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: There as far as the overall revenue split.

815
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Speaker 5: So there is some concern that the deal may not

816
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 5: get finalized for a number of reasons. But even the

817
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 5: NFLPA signing off on this and figuring it out as

818
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 5: part of it. But again, the NFLPA a little bit

819
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 5: in shambles right now.

820
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Speaker 3: So good times at Magic City.

821
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Speaker 2: I'm sure be.

822
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Speaker 1: Sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a

823
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Speaker 1: Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and Jonas

824
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

825
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Speaker 3: Normally a Wednesday tradition, but a rare Monday appearance. Here

826
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Speaker 3: he's the one and only Petros Papadakis. He is the

827
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Speaker 3: co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you

828
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: can hear on the Blowtorch AM five seventy LA Sports.

829
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Speaker 3: A Fox college football analyst, you can get him on

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Speaker 3: X at the old p Petros Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, I'm here nice. How's your weekend?

832
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Speaker 2: That was all right?

833
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Speaker 7: Like, I don't know, Like what am I?

834
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Speaker 2: What you do?

835
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Speaker 5: Petros? You followed the w NBA for a long time?

836
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: Do they have a dildo throwing epidemic? Like what's happening?

837
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 5: Like it's happening, you know earlier years.

838
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: It's not cool anymore.

839
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Speaker 7: I mean the first dildo okay, you know the second one? Yeah?

840
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Speaker 7: But now what has it been three?

841
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: Has it?

842
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 7: I don't thought it was it just two? I thought

843
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 7: it was just two and two and one arrest right on,

844
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 7: that's what they're saying supposed Yeah, I mean that's a lot,

845
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 7: you know. I mean they shouldn't throw stuff. They they're

846
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 7: athletes competing. You can't throw hard objects onto the court.

847
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 7: No matter how funny it is, it's not okay. We

848
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 7: can't have it. We're going to hurt one of those people.

849
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Speaker 7: So it's not it's not right.

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Speaker 2: It's not right.

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Speaker 4: What's been a report you've heard out of US training

852
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: camp so far? I've seen eighteen is up for the

853
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 4: buckets and you know the linebacker, the.

854
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Speaker 2: Six foot who the six foot ten lines? Everyone up

855
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: for the buckets at this point. Yeah, I mean, I'm up.

856
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: Anybody who's gonna play? Is it?

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00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 7: Did you win the buck Gets? That's pretty sweet. You know,

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00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 7: I played football with a butt Gets Award winner and

859
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 7: I was proud of that before I got it. Yeah,

860
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 7: Chris Claiborne. So very exciting award and a great award.

861
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 7: But we cannot give it out about Gentry Yeah yeah,

862
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 7: oh the tall guy.

863
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, he's been great.

864
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 7: I think he transferred from Arizona State and he's been

865
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 7: great when he plays, and he's fallen out of favor

866
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 7: with some of their defensive coaches. USC has a really

867
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Speaker 7: great defensive coordinator in Deanton Lynn, and I think that

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00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 7: he's a future head coach. I don't know if he's

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00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 7: going to be able to help Lincoln who's on a really,

870
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 7: really hot seat. But I think most people understand that

871
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 7: Lincoln Riley, if it wasn't for the buy out that

872
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 7: he had, he'd even fired after the last couple of

873
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 7: years of performances. So it's a very interesting year at USC.

874
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 7: There's no real buzz about what the season is going

875
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 7: to be like.

876
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: And one thing that.

877
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 7: Bothers me a lot when it comes to college football,

878
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 7: and this happened under Sark when he was flailing at

879
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 7: USC and Lane Kiffen, who eventually was fired on a tarmac.

880
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 7: That's another stupid thing that didn't have to happen that

881
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 7: created I mean, you could fire Lane Kiffen, but why

882
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 7: create this whole mythology about getting fired on a tarmac

883
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 7: for everybody from this point onward in college football?

884
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: That's a big USC stigma.

885
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 7: Why because one of these donors wanted Lane Kiffin fired

886
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 7: on that tarmac and Pat Hayden went ahead and did it.

887
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 7: But what people did or said when it came to

888
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 7: those guys, and I know you guys have all heard

889
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 7: about this where they're like, well, look, we got to

890
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 7: fire our head coach, and then all these people go,

891
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 7: but what about the recruiting class, it's like, what you know,

892
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 7: It's like with Kiff and you know, they were like, well,

893
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 7: we got to fire this guy. You know, they just

894
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 7: lost a game by fifty points. What about the recruiting well.

895
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 5: I mean Petros. Petros see it from their side. When

896
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 5: you're paying these kids back then illegally, it's like, well,

897
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 5: they want to make sure that money goes the right spot.

898
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 5: They will waste all their money and giving it these kids.

899
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 7: You can still pay me illegally. Just fire the damned

900
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 7: coach and you can still pay them. Losing them I understand.

901
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 7: But because you have a recruiting class that may or

902
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 7: may not come where four or five guys may contribute

903
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 7: in the next year, and who knows what that number

904
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 7: is now because of the way the transfer portal is

905
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 7: and how everybody wants a more veteran team and going

906
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 7: the high school route takes a lot of patients from

907
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 7: your fan base, patients that the USC fan base does

908
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 7: not have. I just don't know how anybody's recruiting class

909
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 7: in the future should ever help them when they go

910
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 7: five hundred in a blue blood place or a wanna

911
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 7: be blue blood place like USC. So we'll see what happens.

912
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 7: But when USC has a slow start or whatever, I

913
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 7: think they start the year out with like Missouri State or.

914
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: Something like that.

915
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 7: But when or if USC starts losing big ten games,

916
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 7: you're gonna hear that people are going to say, well,

917
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 7: we should fire Lincoln Riley, And somebody's gonna say, what

918
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 7: about the recruited club?

919
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: Hey, well, the good thing is sounds like they're getting

920
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 5: this Notre Dame USC rivalry figured out. I think Pete

921
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 5: Bovaco came out and recently said, hey, they'd be open

922
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 5: to do it even week one. Yeah, I guess the

923
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 5: balls in Southern Cols court at this point.

924
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: I guess.

925
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 7: I mean, they should have never They should not have

926
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 7: been a question whatsoever. It should not have been even

927
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 7: teased that they would change the time of year, because

928
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 7: the time of year for the opposite years between October

929
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 7: and late November at Notre Dame and at USC, respectively.

930
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 7: They should have never even talked about that how it

931
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 7: should be changed, that it should be changed, the fact

932
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 7: that it was ever even a topic, and that anybody

933
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 7: ever brought it up was asinine.

934
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

935
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden, it's something that you're

936
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 7: going to be asked about every time you're in public,

937
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 7: because Lincoln Riley has sent mixed messages. Lincoln Riley said

938
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 7: the stupidest thing I've ever heard at the Big ten

939
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 7: media day when you guys were there, and he in

940
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 7: an attempt to walk it back. No, well, in an

941
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 7: attempt to walk back the whole the whole thing. He

942
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 7: was like, well, we got I came here because we're

943
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 7: going to play Notre Dame and that's why, you know,

944
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 7: before I took the job, that's what I thought about.

945
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 7: But I'll always do what's best for USC. Yeah, what's

946
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 7: best for USC is.

947
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 2: For you to resign. You're not going to do that,

948
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, don't.

949
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 7: Sit there and say that, you know, I mean, just

950
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 7: say what you really mean. I don't want to play

951
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 7: the rivalry because I'm soft, but I've gotten so much

952
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 7: pushback about it that I'm going to try to walk this.

953
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: Back and get out of it.

954
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 7: And the fact that jen Co and the USC Athletic

955
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 7: director hasn't said anything about it probably lets you know,

956
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 7: not really publicly, probably lets you know that she was

957
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 7: disappointed that Lincoln Riley opened his.

958
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: Mouth in the first place about it.

959
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 7: And now they've tried to walk it back and seem

960
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 7: like they're on the same page, and they're not. Lincoln

961
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 7: Riley has as if he has a choice, has tried

962
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 7: to manipulate USC schedule and get rid of the rope

963
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 7: Notre Dame rivalry, or at least bring questions up about it,

964
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 7: which is criminal. He should have never brought it up.

965
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 7: I don't care if he's even even if he's won

966
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 7: eleven games the last four years that he's been there.

967
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 7: He shouldn't bring it up. He should never bring it up.

968
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 7: If you coach USC, you played Notre Dame when USC

969
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 7: plays Notre Dame.

970
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: And you should shut your mouth about it.

971
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 7: And anybody that says anything else about it is a

972
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 7: soft crumb coward.

973
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: And I can't take it, and I won't.

974
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 7: I won't discuss it as when the season starts, Pats,

975
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 7: I will not discuss it anymore.

976
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: So well, I'm curious though from usually out here, the

977
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: fanboys and fangirls in the media don't really want to

978
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 3: be critical of the local teams.

979
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: They just don't. Yeah a toothless media.

980
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 7: When the Seattle media is tougher than LA, we have

981
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 7: a real problem.

982
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: And so you and Scott Wolf are basically the only

983
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 3: two that are willing to call out USC for their crap.

984
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 7: We have Fine bomb well yeah, you mean locally.

985
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, locally and Colin Coward too.

986
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: It's true, It's true, you know, but what sort of

987
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 3: feedback do you get from people.

988
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 2: Either in and around the program? Are you ostracized?

989
00:51:59,320 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 7: Are you not?

990
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: Is it?

991
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 3: Just don't even we don't even address that anymore, even

992
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: though you poscide, Yeah, I mean, are you like, what

993
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 3: sort of feedback do you get from people in and

994
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 3: around the program? If you guys are always so hard

995
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 3: on the paint about all the flaws that USC has.

996
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 7: Well, I've told the truth about it for a long time,

997
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 7: and it's not like I was wrong. Usse after Pete

998
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 7: Carroll and his what Pete Carroll did and how he

999
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 7: did it, and the arrogant way in which it was handled,

1000
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 7: and the fact that his superiors allowed it to happen

1001
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 7: crippled generations of USC football, the sanctions and all that,

1002
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 7: and then who they hired to pull them out of it,

1003
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 7: which were Pete Carroll's old proxies Kiffin and Sarkesian, and

1004
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 7: then ending up hiring Clay Helton, and the way that

1005
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 7: they've had athletic directors work, not real administrator. The one

1006
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 7: administrator that they ended up hiring, a guy named Mike Boone,

1007
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 7: seemed like he had a head injury the whole time

1008
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 7: he was there.

1009
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: You don't even know.

1010
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I acted like a complete weird jackass. Just was

1011
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 7: like a caricature of a blowhard old athletic director. Which

1012
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 7: was really sad because I was just happy that it

1013
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 7: wasn't an ex USC football player that they hired. And

1014
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 7: now they actually have a real administrator in gen Cohen.

1015
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 7: But it's a real tsunami of no pun I'm sorry

1016
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 7: about the well, I guess the tsunami didn't really send

1017
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 7: anybody too much, so maybe in Russia. But it was

1018
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 7: a real tsudami of bad stuff that she's got to

1019
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 7: deal with. And a lot of modern college football stuff,

1020
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 7: modern athletic department stuff that USC is just they don't

1021
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 7: just they just don't seem ready for the twenty first century.

1022
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 7: They were barely ready for the things to change the

1023
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 7: last few times in college football, they not been ahead

1024
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 7: of the crest of the wave. Like a lot of

1025
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 7: programs like Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, people that are

1026
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 7: comparable US. He just hasn't been there like that. And

1027
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's gonna happen anytime soon. They

1028
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 7: have this Lake A Riley contract, maybe this guy wins

1029
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 7: the buckis, but other than that, I don't think. I

1030
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 7: don't I don't know how much we're going to be

1031
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 7: talking about it as far as relevant college football.

1032
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: Is the year goes on.

1033
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: You got a kid by the name of Taymir Robinson

1034
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: from our school, from Penn State that's a linebacker. Keep

1035
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 4: an eye out for him. Kid is super athletic, special kid.

1036
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 4: He was he was under you know, he got ill

1037
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: at Penn State last year, but he actually transferred to USC.

1038
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 4: I didn't like it, but kid can ball, So I'm

1039
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: sorry that he transferred. Yeah, I didn't like that he

1040
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: left US, especially to come to a Big ten school,

1041
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: But it is what it is.

1042
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: But let me ask you this. You talked about just kind.

1043
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: Of like like that momentum isn't there for you, see.

1044
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 7: But what about the recruits Lava.

1045
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the recruits.

1046
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 4: I mean, we just saw Trey Lance have a good

1047
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: a good preseason game. I really believe Harball is going

1048
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: to have the Chargers bawling this year, and then you

1049
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: got Sam or excuse me, Matthew Stafford. His back is sore.

1050
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 4: You think this could be a Chargers year in LA, That's.

1051
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 7: A great question. Everybody says that every year. And I'll

1052
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 7: be a Chargers camp today. Hell yeah, okay, actually.

1053
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: So I'll let you know after I by the way,

1054
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: I will, yeah, please do after.

1055
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 7: I survey them in camp, LeVar, I'll be able to

1056
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 7: tell you whether or not it's a you know, I

1057
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 7: really will watch practice and make sure they're doing karaoke

1058
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 7: correctly and that her be able to say, Okay, you know,

1059
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 7: this is the Chargers year. But uh, it's kind of

1060
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 7: funny whether it's their year or not. I mean, last

1061
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 7: year they looked a lot different than they had.

1062
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: In the regular season, and then they go to the

1063
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: playoffs and lose horribly.

1064
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 7: What was it to Houston and kind of look exactly

1065
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 7: like the Chargers look every year in the playoffs. So

1066
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 7: that was that was disappointing. It's kind of funny because

1067
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 7: Jim Harbaugh, he's such a football institution, and I don't

1068
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 7: know how you guys feel about him because both of

1069
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 7: you have big ten kind of backgrounds where you play

1070
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 7: Michigan and they're more of a rival and you're big

1071
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 7: noon and all that.

1072
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: So Brady's there all the time.

1073
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 7: But I mean, I covered Harbaugh when he was at

1074
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 7: Stanford a lot and got to know him there. I

1075
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 7: even got to know him when he was down at USD.

1076
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 7: And it's funny. It's like you'd think that Harbaugh, not

1077
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 7: that the Chargers are good or bad or anything, but

1078
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 7: you'd think that Harball was like gonna make the Chargers cool.

1079
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: And it's almost like the Chargers made him a dork.

1080
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 7: You know what I mean. It's just kind of funny

1081
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 7: to see him in a Charger gear and just being

1082
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 7: you know, doing all his Harball stuff. Like it's still

1083
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 7: kind of surreal to me that he's he's with the Chargers.

1084
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 7: He's a great football coach and his teams have always

1085
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 7: responded really well to him, and he's been able to

1086
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 7: build teams everywhere he's gone. So, uh, to say that

1087
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 7: they're not going to have success would be naive. But

1088
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 7: it is just kind of funny the way, like just

1089
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 7: seeing Harball around l a like eating cheetos at like,

1090
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 7: uh little league games, and he's just like he's like

1091
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 7: here and uh and It's just it's still kind of

1092
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 7: surreal to me. And last year the proof was in

1093
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 7: the pudding. The regular season was so much better. They

1094
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 7: were such a physical team and all that, and it

1095
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 7: was just year one.

1096
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would expect them to get better.

1097
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 7: I think one of their best defenders got popped for

1098
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 7: having a bunch of guns in his car, right, Harryman.

1099
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 7: I think he was on his way to the shooting range.

1100
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: But oh, okay, yeah, but he had.

1101
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 7: A bunch of illegal guns, I believe. So what am

1102
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 7: I wrong?

1103
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 6: No?

1104
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 2: I didn't hear that that up in camp?

1105
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 7: Should I not play all the wow?

1106
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: I recall seeing something about that.

1107
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 5: I don't recall that his explanation he was going to

1108
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 5: the gun range, although everyone probably should have that as

1109
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 5: their explanation.

1110
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 7: Wasn't he headed out to the gun range? I don't

1111
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 7: know a lot of people, like a lot of people

1112
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 7: in California like to go out to the middle I mean,

1113
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 7: we have a lot of middle of the nowhere kind

1114
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 7: of places in California and the further east you go, uh,

1115
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 7: and a lot of people like.

1116
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: To go out in the middle of nowhere and shoot

1117
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: off guns. I got a lot of them.

1118
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I bought a house just for that, to be

1119
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 4: able to do just that.

1120
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: I did not know that. Yeah, like really, yeah, you

1121
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: bought a house just to shoot guns?

1122
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was my house around the house.

1123
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 4: It was my house. It was my house. It was

1124
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 4: like forty eight acres and so.

1125
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 7: What like instead of turning off the light with your hand,

1126
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 7: you just shot shot it out.

1127
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: No, not not like that. But it was this in

1128
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 4: California then Maryland? Maryland?

1129
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: Was this the place with the coy pon?

1130
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1131
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: Who is your neighbor? Yeah? Did you ever tell Petros

1132
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: about the coy pon situation? I don't like talking about it.

1133
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: You love it, I know, but it's actually really good.

1134
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: Still love my misery of my like like John No

1135
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 4: and Juju and and and Creamy and and Orange and.

1136
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: All of them.

1137
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: Man like they all did pointed black. Yeah, you killed

1138
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: your fish. I didn't kill them, Petros, I did not.

1139
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 3: They didn't have the frost. They perished.

1140
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: How we had that big storm, You remember that great

1141
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: storm that came through, the hurricane that came through like

1142
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 4: it was like a hurricane slash blizzard that.

1143
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 7: Came through, shot down like a tornado like sharknado.

1144
00:59:54,760 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 4: Are our power went out and my general only lasted

1145
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: for like it was like maybe five days before the

1146
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 4: It was something crazy, but we did.

1147
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: We were out of power for like seven days. It

1148
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 3: was like a long ad sign with no power. And

1149
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: my fish started going belly up like the second day

1150
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: with no power. And next thing you.

1151
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: Know, they were in like a pond.

1152
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in a pond, but indoors, so it has

1153
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: to be the water has to be circulating or they

1154
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: lose the oxygen. And one thing leads to another. And

1155
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 4: they and I mean they were big. I raised them

1156
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 4: from babies. They were little baby cooys and they were

1157
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 4: really really big, like like probably like the length of

1158
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 4: your arm, like really big.

1159
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 7: Well, it reminds me of a few things. Chris wember Positive, Right,

1160
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 7: you used to have a lake in the back of

1161
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 7: his house in the Atlanta area and he would have

1162
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 7: it stocked with fish and he would go out and

1163
01:00:59,000 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 7: fish on it.

1164
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: Suite.

1165
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, like Troutdale, right, So that's you know, that makes

1166
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 7: me think of that. And then I thought of LeVar

1167
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 7: just out there shooting at his fish, which you never do.

1168
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: No, since you raised them, I wouldn't be shooting at

1169
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: my fish. But the way. My proper was you.

1170
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 5: Were gone and you came back to the house. No,

1171
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 5: I found him that way. We were in there.

1172
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: You just slowly watched them.

1173
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 4: I watched them like I had to like live through

1174
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 4: watching and do anything for ya.

1175
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: I thought you should, I thought, I thought, did you

1176
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: guys create that?

1177
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 3: I swear I thought that was the story that you

1178
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: walked in the house and the smell and the smell,

1179
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 3: that's what.

1180
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: You told us initially. The other thing is like a

1181
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: lot of show up. I was there, We were there.

1182
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 4: We were stranded in a storm, we were snowed in.

1183
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: It was a storm.

1184
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: You could consider this LeVar because I mean I might

1185
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 3: have walked in from a different room.

1186
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean it was twenty twenty thousand square foot home

1187
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: in Orange County.

1188
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 7: For a time, everybody got like coy fish tattoos.

1189
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah they did.

1190
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of people hadyfish tattoos. Maybe in memoriam.

1191
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 7: I don't know how it.

1192
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: Uh, what was that about? Maybe? I don't know.

1193
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 7: It was like a white guy flat bail, like fox racing,

1194
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 7: like monster energy thing. Yeah, those guys came with a

1195
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 7: lot of cooyfish and every once in a while, like

1196
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 7: mister choose Asian restaurant or something in Bakersfield will be

1197
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 7: robbed of their cooyfish. I'm glad you brought some, you

1198
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 7: know what I mean. People do like to steal cooyfish.

1199
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 4: Hey, Petros, was I wrong for saying that Confederate flags

1200
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 4: are related to NASCAR events?

1201
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: Well? You got the General Lee right, I mean, but

1202
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: is that wrong?

1203
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 4: Like I'm saying, you go to a NASCAR event, Confederate

1204
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 4: flags are part of NASCAR events. That might have been them,

1205
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 4: but that's still that doesn't mean that they don't want

1206
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 4: to have them.

1207
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1208
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 7: I mean, the Confederate flag is interesting. I mean, it

1209
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 7: represents a lot of different things, just a lot of

1210
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 7: different people. One interesting fact about the Confederate flag, I

1211
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 7: believe it was was designed by Beauregard, who was a

1212
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 7: Creole general for the for the Confederates. He was in Charleston.

1213
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 7: He made some mistakes, but he was he was in

1214
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 7: pretty well. He did yeah, but he was a pretty

1215
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 7: he was a pretty famous general in his time. And

1216
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 7: they the first flag they designed for the Confederacy looked

1217
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 7: too much like the American flag or the Union flag,

1218
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 7: and so the Confederate battle flag looked a lot like

1219
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 7: and it was confusing in the early parts of the

1220
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 7: Civil War, and there was a lot of confusion anyway,

1221
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 7: if you can imagine.

1222
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 3: How loud all that, well, they were fighting over confusion,

1223
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: right well, I.

1224
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 7: Mean there's a lot of I mean, if you can

1225
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 7: imagine like thirty thousand men in either army attacking each

1226
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 7: other in like a giant field.

1227
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 2: You're like, wait, there's our flag.

1228
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 7: Wait right there, smoke and there's like, you know, one

1229
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 7: of the most I think the most famous Confederate general

1230
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 7: of them all, other than Lee, which would be Stonewall Jackson.

1231
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 7: He died from friendly fire in the Civil War. Because

1232
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 7: there was a lot of confusion, so the first Confederate

1233
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 7: flag looked a little bit too much like the other one.

1234
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 7: So then the stars and bars he designed and they

1235
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 7: were they're more distinctive. And I mean I come from

1236
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 7: a time where, you know, if we had an old

1237
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 7: lineman that was a white guy who was from you know,

1238
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 7: the South, well not even the South, just inland like Norco.

1239
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 7: You know, they'd put a flag up and listen to

1240
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 7: country music and stuff like that. I don't know if

1241
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 7: they really had a perspective on what it meant or

1242
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 7: not meant, but uh, as far as being involved with NASCAR,

1243
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 7: I mean.

1244
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: The the the.

1245
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 7: Origin of NASCAR is bootlegging. So which would be like

1246
01:04:54,920 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 7: souping up your car to outrun the cops cops on

1247
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 7: Southern roads to run moonshine or whiskey or whatever. And

1248
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 7: uh so it's kind of got an outlaw sort of

1249
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 7: vibe at a background and definitely a Southern background. So

1250
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 7: if it's a Southern outlaw background, yeah, I would say.

1251
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 4: Which is interesting because again, like the educational point there

1252
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 4: to that is black dudes, was was bootlegging too, Black

1253
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 4: and white people were bootlegging. It was all about the

1254
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 4: the corn liquor. It was about that that shine. It

1255
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 4: was about getting that that you know, getting that liquor

1256
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 4: to where it needed to get to, you know, and

1257
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 4: you get your money if you got it there. Yes,

1258
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 4: so it was it was beyond it was green. That

1259
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 4: was the color. It wasn't you know, bootleggers, I would.

1260
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 7: Say, I mean if LaVar had to uh if if

1261
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 7: if LaVar, if you if you had to belabor the point,

1262
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 7: you would say that you'd be most likely to see

1263
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 7: a confess veterate flag and a mass car event perhaps

1264
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 7: more than an F one or an indie event.

1265
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

1266
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's fair, Like I don't see all the backs

1267
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 7: for stopping Dutch fans waving around the stars and bars

1268
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 7: and talking about, you know, the lost Cause theory.

1269
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 4: That's correct, that is that is an accurate statement there, sir.

1270
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 7: But you look up Beauregard and they called him because

1271
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 7: he was creole, they called him the black general.

1272
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: So he was like, by the way you mentioned, sup.

1273
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 7: Perhaps this this flag will be better.

1274
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 2: So after this war, we need to go get us

1275
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: home some By.

1276
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 11: The way, uh, in New Orleans for a time, you

1277
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 11: mentioned Stonewall Jackson, if if I have this correct, I

1278
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 11: think he was one of the I think he invented

1279
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 11: the cold shower, the cold tub treatment.

1280
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: That guy used to in the dead of winter take

1281
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: cold showers to get ready for battle.

1282
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 7: Stonewall was an interesting guy, a very very religious, almost

1283
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 7: like a Zelot, and he was a He was an

1284
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 7: artillery instructor at vm I so h once. I think

1285
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 7: they up until maybe ten years ago, they still had

1286
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 7: his two cannons. I think they're biblically named. They're displayed.

1287
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 7: I think they still might be, but they still have

1288
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 7: some Stonewall Jackson stuff at v M I and I

1289
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 7: think his house is a museum.

1290
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: Interesting. See, there's nothing. Yeah, this is the best. You know,

1291
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: it's nothing. Petro's doesn't know. Uh, we appreciate it. I

1292
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: know who's gonna win the butckets.

1293
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 3: Get them on X at the Old p and we

1294
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: will do it again next week. There he is, the

1295
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 3: great Petros Papadekas with us year on Fox Sports Radio