1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Guess what, mango? 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 2: What's that? 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Well, so you may have heard this before, but did 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: you know there's actually a law that states that only 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: dead people can appear on us currency. 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: You know, I had heard that before. But what's funny 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: is like why did that become a law? Like why 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: was that important enough to put into writing? 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: It really is, it's weird, And I was wondering the 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: same thing. So I decided to look back at this, 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that I did because it's it's kind 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: of a weird and fun story. But it goes back 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: to this superintendent of the National Currency Bureau, and it 14 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: was a guy named Spencer Clark, and this was back 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty six, so a long time ago, and 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: he oversaw the creation of what we're called fractional bills. 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: And I didn't remember a whole lot about these, but 18 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: these were bills that were not as big as regular ones. 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: They were five cent, ten cent, twenty five cent, and 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: these other denominations. But they were actually made because the 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: nation was dealing with a coin shortage. This was just 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: after the Civil War, and so Congress had asked the 23 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Bureau to make a new fractional bill in honor of 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: William Clark. Now this is the Clark from Lewis and 25 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Clark fame. But the document that was passed along to 26 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: Spencer Clark only said Clark. Now you may notice that 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: he had the same last name. So as a joke, 28 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Spencer Clark decided to interpret that as being about himself, 29 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: and so he actually had the five cent bill made 30 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: with his own mug on it. 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: This is not a joke, Spency. That's pretty gutsy. How 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: did this joke go over well? About as well as 33 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: you could imagine. Congress was not at all please. 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: So Congressman Russell Thayer successfully pushed to have a law 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: passed that stated that hereafter, no portrait or likeness of 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: any living person shall be engraved or placed on any bond, securities, notes, 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: or postal currency of the United States. So that is 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: why only dead people can appear on money for now. 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Because of Frank, I kind of love that. 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I do too. And you know, that's really just one 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: of many fun facts about the things that we see 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: on our money, and that's exactly what we're talking about today. 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: So let's dive in. Hey, the podcast listeners, welcome to 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: part time Genius. I'm Will Pearson and as always, I'm 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: joined by my good friend mangesh Hot Ticketer and on 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: the other side of the soundproof glass showing off one 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: of the world's weirdest piggy bangs. It's this green pig 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: and for some reason it says dill piggle on it. 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't get it. 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get it either, And apparently he isn't 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: alone in this. Like you can actually buy these on eBay. 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: They're marketed as the perfect piggybangs for foodies. For some reason. 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: That's another weird one from our friends and producer Tristan McNeil. So, Mango, 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: are you ready to talk money? 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: I am. I was thinking about money this week and 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: I immediately started thinking about Alex p. Keaton from Family Ties. 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: You over him, of course more than like Scrooge McDuck 58 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: or Richie rich or Gordon Gecko from Wall Street, Like, 59 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: this is the character I associate with money. And it's 60 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: all because of one scene that's somehow like stuck in 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: my head. It's uh. He was talking about how much 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: he loved money, and some other character would throw a 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: coin into a jar and he'd just identify it by 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: the sounds, so he'd be like nickel Quarter doing an 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: episode on money made me think of that, plus saying 66 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: Kristen's dill pickle bank. 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: Anyway, I do want to pick up where you left off, 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: and that's what people we find on our dollar bills 70 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: and specifically presidents. To me, it's pretty interesting that the 71 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: earliest coins and bills didn't actually have any presidents on them, 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: and that was partially because of George Washington and who 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: he was. He made it clear he didn't want his 74 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: image on any currency, despite other people pushing for it, 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: and this actually made sense because the US had obviously 76 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: been rebelling against the country that liked putting their heads 77 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: of states on their money, and instead the founding fathers 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: decided to use imagery that they felt symbolized the type 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: of government that they were aiming to build. So they 80 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: used things like an American eagle on one side and 81 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: then a Goddess of Liberty on the other, which is 82 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: super interesting because you know, while men and mostly white 83 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: men are on faces of money right now, like at 84 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: one point, women were better represented on some of our 85 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: earliest currencies. 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: So when exactly did president start appearing on our money? 87 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: If I tell you this does account as one of 88 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: my facts. 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I'm looking over Tristan and he 90 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: is nodding pretty aggressively, and he sets the rules around here, 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: so I guess it has to but I feel like 92 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: it's worth sharing anyway. 93 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: So the first president didn't appear on US currency until 94 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: nineteen oh nine, and that's one hundred and thirty three 95 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: years after the country was created, and right around one 96 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: hundred years after Lincoln was born. And that's actually how 97 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: it all got started. So Teddy Roosevelt was president at 98 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: the time, and he wanted to find a way to 99 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: celebrate that anniversary. He'd actually always a close connection to Lincoln. 100 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this, but he'd attended 101 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: Lincoln's funeral procession as it moved through New York City 102 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: when he was a boy. I think he was six 103 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: years old at the time. When he became president, he 104 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: wore a ring that had strands of Lincoln's hair in it. 105 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: So when he actually had the power to do so, 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 2: he had a series of commemorative pennies made in Lincoln's honor, 107 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: twenty two million of them in fact, and the American 108 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: public seemed to like them so much that they just 109 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: stuck around and everyone kept making. 110 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: Them, and so that's what started at all, and presidents 111 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: just started showing up left and right on these coins 112 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: or what you know. 113 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: Surprisingly, it wasn't the floodgate you might imagine. It was 114 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: actually another twenty three years before another president appeared, and 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: that was Washington on a commemorative quarter in nineteen thirty two, 116 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: which of course was also a big hit. So the 117 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: mint just kept making them. 118 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting, all right, Well, I want to talk 119 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: for a minute about the ridges on our coins, you know, 120 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: the ones along the kind of the edge of the coin. 121 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: And I think most of us have heard that they're 122 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: there to help prevent counterfeiting, and you know, because it 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: makes it that much more detailed and hard to reproduce. 124 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: But there's actually a slightly different origin to these ridges 125 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: that I've never heard about. So in the earliest days, 126 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: the US meant coins were actually made of their actual 127 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: value in gold or silver or whatever precious metal, and 128 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: so that meant that a five dollars coin was actually 129 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: made of five dollars in gold. The problem was that 130 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: this metal was so valuable that people started just kind 131 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: of filing it down on the smooth edges of these coins, 132 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: and then they would sell off the shavings, and this 133 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: became known as clipping, and so those who were really 134 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: good at this could actually shave off just enough where 135 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: people wouldn't notice, and then they could still use those coins. 136 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: But that became much harder to pull off as the 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: ridges were put into place, because you know, if somebody 138 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: shaved off any coin, it would no longer have those ridges. 139 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: And so you know, even though those coins are no 140 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: longer made of these same precious metals, some still have 141 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: these ridges. And it actually turns out that preventing counterfeiting 142 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: isn't the only reason for that. 143 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: Is it just tradition then? 144 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's definitely one reason, because it was something 145 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: that was put in place a long time ago. But 146 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: one of the others is that it's actually another helpful 147 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: way for the visually impaired to tell what coin they're holding, 148 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: because some coins have the ridges and others don't, So 149 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: for example, you know, dimes have reeds, pennies don't, so 150 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: it you know, it makes a lot of sense when 151 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: you think about it, all right, Mengo, So what do 152 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: you want to talk about next? 153 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: Well, I do feel like we have to address the 154 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: fact that pretty much every bill we get our hands 155 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: on is disgusting. 156 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: And oh, so we do. We have to address this. 157 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: So there's this one two thousand and two report in 158 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: the Southern Medical Journal, and it showed that more than 159 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: ninety percent of bills tested have some form of a 160 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: harmful pathogen on them. So we're talking about stuff like 161 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: staphylococcus and other gross things. And the same study actually 162 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: showed that most bills have at least trace amounts of 163 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: fecal matter on them, which is also wonderful. 164 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm never using anything but a credit card ever. 165 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: Again, it feels like it whised to like wash your 166 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: hands after using dollar bills. But that's not all it's 167 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: it's wild that one study back in the late nineties 168 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: found that somewhere around eighty percent of bills in circulation, 169 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: eighty percent had trace amounts of cocaine on them. 170 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: Oh that is wild. So of like all bills they 171 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: have this. That's so disgusting. 172 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: It is, but you know, it's definitely more some types 173 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: of bills than others. It turns out, if you really 174 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: want to avoid a hint of cocaine on your bills. 175 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: It's best to use ones and fives over tens and twenties. 176 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's something I'll keep in mind. Right. Well, 177 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: here's something I hadn't paid much attention to. But have 178 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: you seen the spiky circle that's on the right side 179 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: of Washington on the one dollar bill. Yeah, this is 180 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: actually the seal of the Treasury, and it's one part 181 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: of the dollar bill that has actually had to change 182 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: a little bit over the years because the number of 183 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: spikes is intended to match the number of states in 184 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: the Union. So they're now, of course fifty there. But 185 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: this is definitely not the number you find most represented 186 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: on our bills. So have you noticed that there is 187 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: a bit of an obsession with the number thirteen? So 188 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: the shield and the Treasury seal that I just mentioned 189 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: has thirteen stars to represent the thirteen original colonies, but 190 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: there are so many more reminders that we have these 191 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: thirteen original colonies. There are thirteen stars above the eagles head, 192 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: thirteen stripes on the shield in front of the eagle, 193 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: thirteen arrows in one of the eagles talons, thirteen leaves 194 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: with thirteen olive branches, and something I had not heard before, 195 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: and that's the fact that there are thirteen letters in 196 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: Eploribus Unham. 197 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: That is strange. You know, as soon as you said 198 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: the number thirteen, I wasn't thinking thirteen colonies. I was 199 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: just thinking, like, how unlucky the number thirteen is. And 200 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: it is funny that it's just like blasted all over 201 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: our bills. That's crazy. So here's a weird one. We 202 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: all know. Andrew Jackson is on the twenty dollars bill. 203 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: There's been all this hubbub whether he should be there, 204 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: like or whether we can take him off. I know 205 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: we've talked about replacing him with Harriet Tubman recently, or 206 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: someone just less horrible than he is. But there's this 207 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: weird thing about having Jackson on the bill, and also 208 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: that people are fighting to keep him there. And it's 209 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: that Jackson didn't believe in paper money, Like, yeah, he 210 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: actually used his farewell address as president to blast the 211 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 2: idea of paper currency, claiming it had no intrinsic value 212 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: and that it would quote render property insecure and wages 213 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: unsteady and uncertain. So, you know, having him on the 214 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: twenties almost like having Richard Nixon on your soup labels, 215 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: which I know is a weird reference, but he didn't 216 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: believe in soup and he had a band from the 217 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: White House. Wow. 218 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting you to bring soup into this. But 219 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: all right, well we've each got one more fact to share, 220 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: but before we get to those, let's take a quick break. 221 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back part time Genius, where we're talking about things 222 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: we find on our money. So far, we found cocaine, 223 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 2: we found the number thirteen a lot. But yeah, I know, 224 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: during the break you mentioned that you had a fact 225 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: about that Latin motto e pluribus unham, which I think 226 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: we all learned in school means out of many one. 227 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: But that wasn't your last factor, was it. 228 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,599 Speaker 1: Well, no, mago, come on, I got better stuff than that. 229 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: But all right, well this is just one more reference 230 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: to the original thirteen colonies, as we mentioned. But what 231 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: I found funny was that the founding fathers may have 232 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: actually borrowed this phrase from a popular magazine. It wasn't 233 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: something that they actually came up with themselves. So there 234 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: was this British periodical that started back in seventeen thirty 235 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: two and it ran for nearly two centuries, and it 236 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: was called gentleman's magazine, and it's not as dirty as 237 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: it sounds. So anyway, on every issue was this phrase 238 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: e pluribus unham. But in this case, this was actually 239 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: referring to the fact that so many articles were coming 240 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: from so many different sources but all brought together into 241 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: one publication. So it kind of makes sense why they 242 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: would say this. So as gentlemen's magazines started gaining popularity 243 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: in the colonies, it seems very possible that they were 244 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: actually inspired by this phrase, and so that may be 245 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: where it came from. Anyway. All right, mango, so what 246 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: is your last factor of the day. 247 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: Well, I like that you spotted plagiarism basically on our 248 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: bellor bills. That's pretty amazing. So I think I'm gonna 249 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 2: end with the fact about the two signatures you see 250 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: on every print bill here in the US. One is 251 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: from the treasurer of the United States and one's from 252 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: the Secretary of the Treasury. 253 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: Wait, so those aren't the same thing. 254 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: No, So the treasure actually advises the Secretary about various 255 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: currency but it's the Secretary that makes the final calls. 256 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: And the current Secretary of the Treasury is Steve Munuchian, 257 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: He's actually the seventy seventh person to hold this title, 258 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: and every one of them has been a man. But 259 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: this is the more interesting part. The current treasure is 260 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: Jovita Kranza or Jovita Karanza. I might be pronouncing that wrong, 261 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: but she's actually the forty fourth person in this position, 262 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: and it's actually only been held by women for the 263 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: past seven decades, dating back to Harry Truman appointing the 264 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: first female in this role. 265 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: That's so weird. So only men in one role and 266 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: only women for the past seven decades. It feels like 267 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: just another reminder of how weird people are about gender stuff, 268 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: isn't it. 269 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, Jennifer Lawless, who's the director of the 270 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: Women in Politics and Student at American University, she actually 271 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: said this about it quote. Once there's a woman appointed 272 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: in a position, it's easy to assume that position is 273 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: one that could be filled by a woman. Once an 274 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: initial ceiling is broken, once an initial piece of progress 275 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: is made, there's a tendency to continue down that path. 276 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: All right, Well, here's to a woman holding the position 277 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: of Secretary of Treasury at some point in the not 278 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: too distant future. I feel like mego for that little 279 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: reminder of just how weird people are. I feel like 280 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: I need to give you today's trophy. 281 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: Well I will take it because I feel like I 282 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: haven't earned a trophy in a little bit. But from 283 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: Tristan Gabe Wilhelmy, thank you so much for listening.