Speaker 1: We've been waiting for this one for a while, we have.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get into it to see if
Speaker 2: it met, exceeded or was not anywhere near expectations. Frankly,
Speaker 2: because I'm yeah, I almost watched this one twice, and
Speaker 2: I say, all, really yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Had to go back and watch at least the end
Speaker 3: of the first one because I was confused right from
Speaker 3: the start.
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, right, Okay, of course of course you are,
Speaker 2: of course you were. Of course we are talking about
Speaker 2: whatever the Kirk Cameron was one was where he turns
Speaker 2: into a dog. We're watching the sequel today.
Speaker 1: Correct, What was that one even called? I'm Kirk Cameron,
Speaker 1: I'm a dog. What was the name of that was
Speaker 1: the name of that movie? You lucky dog?
Speaker 4: That's right, key dog.
Speaker 1: Lis.
Speaker 2: So once again on it everybody was lucky except the
Speaker 2: people that had to watch the movie, though they were
Speaker 2: not as lucky. But anyway, welcome back to Magical Rewind,
Speaker 2: the show that makes you want to grab your friends,
Speaker 2: your PJS and your popcorn and go back to a
Speaker 2: time and all the houses are smart, the waves tsunamis,
Speaker 2: and now we're doing a whole bunch of sequels I'm
Speaker 2: Wilford Dell.
Speaker 4: And I'm Sabrina Brian.
Speaker 2: It is a big week here on Magical rewind Or
Speaker 2: merr As I'm going to start calling it as we
Speaker 2: return to sequel town for the second installment.
Speaker 1: Of a massive and expensive.
Speaker 2: Franchise from modern day Disney Channel. It's time for a
Speaker 2: film we've been looking forward to for a very long time.
Speaker 2: It is twenty seventeen's musical fantasy deck Sekendidents two.
Speaker 1: I might be pronouncing that wrong. Is that wrong? It's
Speaker 1: the Descendants. It's Descendants two, is what it is.
Speaker 2: Two years after the original worldwide phenomenon first aired, everything
Speaker 2: was perfectly lined up for this sequel announced that that
Speaker 2: year's D twenty three xpote.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to D twenty three? No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so.
Speaker 2: You've never done the D twenty xpo. And you're as
Speaker 2: big a Disney fan as you are. We got to
Speaker 2: get you to D twenty three.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm down. It sounds like a perfect place.
Speaker 2: For me, It really is. It sounds like it should
Speaker 2: be called D twenty three. Sabrina Expo is really what
Speaker 2: it should be. The movie then aired in the summer
Speaker 2: of twenty seventeen July twenty first, to be exact, And
Speaker 2: it was such a big deal for the Disney Company that,
Speaker 2: for the first time ever, the premiere was simulcast across
Speaker 2: all of their networks. That means Disney Channel, ABC, Disney XD,
Speaker 2: free Form, Lifetime, and Lifetime Movies all ran the first run,
Speaker 2: all at the same time, Sabrina, this is the first
Speaker 2: d com to air off the channel at all.
Speaker 1: So how big a deal.
Speaker 4: Was this huge?
Speaker 1: It was huge. I mean it's a huge deal.
Speaker 4: It took over Disney as a whole.
Speaker 3: It took a Yes, now, I would assume much like
Speaker 3: and guys, I know you're getting sick of me with
Speaker 3: my obsession, but zombies like it's taking everything yea by
Speaker 3: a storm.
Speaker 1: It really are.
Speaker 2: I don't think Disney because I was on Disney XD
Speaker 2: for a long time. I don't think Disney XD even
Speaker 2: exists anymore. And I'm not sure Freeform doesn't it. I
Speaker 2: think Freeform does, but Disney XD doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, well, the strategy, the gamble, I guess you could
Speaker 2: call it that. It certainly paid off because the premiere
Speaker 2: was viewed by just under nine million people, which was
Speaker 2: an increase from the first movie, and on Disney Channel
Speaker 2: alone they clocked five point three million viewers.
Speaker 1: That is a huge win for d comms. Who do
Speaker 1: you hear my voice? Crack I, Peter Brady? A huge
Speaker 1: win for d coms.
Speaker 2: It's said to have garnered twenty one million viewers in
Speaker 2: delayed DVR and.
Speaker 1: Streaming watches as well.
Speaker 2: It came in as the second most watched d com ever,
Speaker 2: beyond only which one.
Speaker 3: High School Musical two year right, oh, High School Music
Speaker 3: with yes, High School Musical two again, I think with
Speaker 3: High School Musical two five point one of the million
Speaker 3: viewers of the five point five I think that watched
Speaker 3: it just wanted to watch it to see Zach Effron
Speaker 3: saying to himself in a pond at a golf course.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's why High School Musical two was so amazing.
Speaker 2: And it's good news because at the time, by the
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal, this was the most expensive dcom to date,
Speaker 2: with a budget of twelve to fifteen million dollars, which
Speaker 2: has now, of course been blown out of the water
Speaker 2: by Zombies four and the next Descendants movie, which we
Speaker 2: are patiently waiting for. It was filmed in the dcom
Speaker 2: capital of the North Toronto and of course British Columbia
Speaker 2: over the period of one month to every time I
Speaker 2: see movies this big, I'm kind of amazed they go
Speaker 2: that fast. But then I see some of the effects
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, it probably only took a month,
Speaker 2: and it's creatively set for six months after the first
Speaker 2: film ended, Disney, as always, was looking to synergize with
Speaker 2: merch We had the prequel novel, Rise of the Isle
Speaker 2: of the Loss.
Speaker 1: There were beauty products, backpacks, costumes, jewelry.
Speaker 2: And fashion dolls, and of course, since it's a musical,
Speaker 2: we have to talk about the soundtrack. It dropped the
Speaker 2: same day as the premiere and debuted at number six
Speaker 2: on the Billboard two hundred, eventually going gold with over
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand sold.
Speaker 1: Did you remember the music from the first movie?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Did you rotten to the core? Oh right?
Speaker 3: Banger banger, That's okay now. And I just recently went
Speaker 3: to Disneyland as always, We just went for my daughter's
Speaker 3: birthday and it's Halloween time already here in Disneyland fashion,
Speaker 3: they start the holidays so early.
Speaker 4: Oogy boogie bash is bag all of that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, We're back it up What is the Ugy
Speaker 2: Boogie Bash.
Speaker 3: The Oogie Boogie Bash is at Disneyland California Adventure.
Speaker 4: They closed down the park at six It's a separate
Speaker 4: ticket you have to get. I went last year.
Speaker 3: It's a whole every it's all Disney, it's a lot
Speaker 3: of the all the villains are out there. It's lots
Speaker 3: of different like kinds of things that throughout the park.
Speaker 3: And then what's the really exciting part, which was for
Speaker 3: my kids, was there's like tricker treating lines and you
Speaker 3: go out with bags and bags and bags of candy
Speaker 3: and also healthy treats as well, which I loved. It's
Speaker 3: so fun and you get to actually like they really
Speaker 3: like you know a lot of people dress up in
Speaker 3: their Halloween costumes, so it's another time to like do
Speaker 3: a Halloween night with your family.
Speaker 1: I'm told it's Disney Halloween after hours party.
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, yes, And it is so fun. It's awesome.
Speaker 3: The lines are so much shorter, like you know, it's
Speaker 3: and it's it's only open to the people that pay
Speaker 3: this like special thing.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, weird question. Is there alcohol served?
Speaker 3: California Adventure. Yes, they have like special Halloween type drinks
Speaker 3: and things.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, special treats.
Speaker 3: There's different kinds of dessert stuff. Yeah, it's like a
Speaker 3: whole thing. It's so fun. And what I was getting
Speaker 3: to is Rotten to the Core. Even though we weren't
Speaker 3: there for Aggie Boogie Bash, we were there during the day.
Speaker 3: It's Halloween time at Disneyland, and Rotten to the Core
Speaker 3: is played over and over again. So I was grooving
Speaker 3: and skipping and just fluttering around because I love, love,
Speaker 3: love that song.
Speaker 4: It's my favorite descendant song.
Speaker 1: Songs go out of my head so quickly.
Speaker 2: The only song from any one of these things that
Speaker 2: I can't get out of my head is still that
Speaker 2: Dean a Teen Beach song. They're dancing on the beach
Speaker 2: all happy. It's the only damn one I can't get
Speaker 2: out of my head. But these I didn't remember a
Speaker 2: single one.
Speaker 3: So many people listening to our wonderful podcast, because I
Speaker 3: saw a lot of people dressed as teen Beach at
Speaker 3: the I was leaving California Adventure as Boogey Bash.
Speaker 4: People were coming in their costumes, lots of teen Beach.
Speaker 3: So I'm just so thankful that that many people are
Speaker 3: listening and caring about magical rewind.
Speaker 1: So thank you everyone at Nice.
Speaker 2: Well, it should come to no surprise to anyone here
Speaker 2: that you can watch des Sentence to right now in
Speaker 2: Disney Plus. But the choices, of course yours. You can
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast first and hear what we think,
Speaker 2: or you watch it first and then savagely judge us
Speaker 2: with your already formed opinions.
Speaker 1: The good news is either way, Pyle.
Speaker 2: We served at the end of the competition, Sabrina, the
Speaker 2: time has finally come. How happy were you to finally
Speaker 2: see the next chapter?
Speaker 4: Amazing?
Speaker 3: And again I know I read the comments. People are
Speaker 3: just like so over me being so obsessed with zombies.
Speaker 3: Nothing compares to zombies. But if you remember, this was
Speaker 3: The Descendants. The first time we watched was the first
Speaker 3: time I watched it, and I fell in love with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3: I was so excited, especially because there's nothing to look
Speaker 3: forward to at this point with zombies. So I am
Speaker 3: like all in for Descendants. I need to like fly
Speaker 3: to their show, get I.
Speaker 4: Want to see why the tr they're going.
Speaker 3: They are on tour already and it's the Zombies and
Speaker 3: Descendants like mash up and when I was at the
Speaker 3: premiere I saw characters that I knew were from Descendants,
Speaker 3: but have not seen them yet. So I'm just so
Speaker 3: stoked about getting to know all the other characters that
Speaker 3: we are going to get introduced to.
Speaker 2: Do we know who's actually on tour from the cast
Speaker 2: of either of these I don't know there.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it like, are these are all.
Speaker 4: The it's the new it's Freya.
Speaker 1: And okay, it's the new movies.
Speaker 3: Malachi are from the Zombies, so there, and then there
Speaker 3: are newer characters. And again I don't know the characters
Speaker 3: that are from Descendants. It's not any of the original one.
Speaker 1: We should go, we should coming here.
Speaker 4: It was already here.
Speaker 3: It happened right after the Zombies premiere, so things were
Speaker 3: chaotic in both of our schedules.
Speaker 1: We should find a way to go. We'll find awesome.
Speaker 3: It done, so we might have to we might have
Speaker 3: to like do some flying, which I'm down I would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't mind doing. It's almost done. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 2: have to figure it out.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I was.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to this movie. I definitely was looking forward
Speaker 2: to this movie. The first one was great. It's bright,
Speaker 2: it's colorful, it's very clever with the idea of the kids,
Speaker 2: uh you know, of villains and the kids of the
Speaker 2: heroes of Disney.
Speaker 1: It's very, very clever. It's a beautifully built world. So yeah,
Speaker 1: great afters.
Speaker 4: They did a wonderful job in the first one.
Speaker 1: So I was bumped. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: Now you might be chilling like a villain, but it's
Speaker 2: going down between you and me, So let's get evil.
Speaker 2: With the synopsis, mal struggles with life as princess in
Speaker 2: training and returns to the Isle of the Lost, where
Speaker 2: uma Ursula's daughter is determined to get revenge and descendants,
Speaker 2: of course, would be nowhere without its insanely talented director
Speaker 2: Kenny Ortega, one of the greatest choreographers of all time.
Speaker 1: You can repeat this.
Speaker 2: It's like any of the other amazing Disney legends we've
Speaker 2: talked about on this podcast.
Speaker 1: You can now repeat this list along with the rest
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 2: Kenny worked on movies like Dirty Dancing, Ferris Bueler's Day
Speaker 2: Off in Pretty in Pink, and with musicians like Madonna,
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, and Olivia Newton John until he transitioned into
Speaker 2: a director. He became a Disney Hall of Famer with
Speaker 2: movies like Hocus Pocus, Newsy's Cheetah Girls Too, and the
Speaker 2: Dcom megafranchise High School Musical. He is a Brinks truck
Speaker 2: for the studio and is treated as such. If these
Speaker 2: new high school musical rumors are true, I think we
Speaker 2: could probably expect Kenny to direct that too, don't you think?
Speaker 4: Of course?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine them touching music high school musical without Kenny.
Speaker 3: I mean, on the on the movie side, you know
Speaker 3: that that is this is his realm.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is I.
Speaker 2: Can't imagine leads them doing another high school musical and
Speaker 2: not inviting us to be part of the cast.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's like, hey, it's going to
Speaker 1: be very we'll call Bart. We'll call Bart. We'll figure out. Yes,
Speaker 1: we'll get this.
Speaker 2: We'll get well, we'll work our angles and we'll get
Speaker 2: we'll get it all right. Disney is good at many
Speaker 2: many things, that much we have established. But the one
Speaker 2: skill you can expect, no matter what, great casting and
Speaker 2: getting that cast to return for a sequel. And that's
Speaker 2: thanks to some ironclad contracts and very expensive lawyers. So
Speaker 2: descendants to prepare to see all the familiar faces. Dove Cameron,
Speaker 2: his back is our lead maw. She's the devious daughter
Speaker 2: of Maleficent and a Channel regular thanks to Live in Maddie,
Speaker 2: a role that won her in Emmy. The social media
Speaker 2: megastar has also become a pop sensation and one of
Speaker 2: young Hollywood's most promising names. Then We've Got Cameron Boyce
Speaker 2: returns as Carlos, the son of Corella Deville. Boyce's sky
Speaker 2: was the limit when it came to his abilities in
Speaker 2: his career, but sadly, he tragically passed away in twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen at just twenty years old from complications of a seizure.
Speaker 2: It is such a sad story, and Cameron has been
Speaker 2: in the news lately after Adam Sandler, who he co
Speaker 2: starred with in Grown Ups, included footage of him and
Speaker 2: Happy Gilmore two as cameo and a tribute. Everyone I've
Speaker 2: talked to who's ever met him said that he was
Speaker 2: just the nicest person in the world. And every time
Speaker 2: I see him on camera, it just makes me sad
Speaker 2: because he.
Speaker 1: Was so talented, so talented.
Speaker 2: Incredible, and he's got he's got that smile that just
Speaker 2: lights up for screen.
Speaker 4: He's an incredible dancer, his voice is awesome.
Speaker 2: I mean ja he did one move in this thing
Speaker 2: where I was like, damn, you know it's yeah, It's
Speaker 2: such a shame, such a shame, But what a legacy
Speaker 2: he left and such a short amount of time. Sophia
Speaker 2: Carson is once again Evie, the self obsessed daughter of
Speaker 2: the evil Queen. She had appeared on the Disney Channel
Speaker 2: with shows like Austin and Ally and in the Sabrina
Speaker 2: Carpenter Co Vehicle dcom Adventures and Babysitting, but this franchise
Speaker 2: was her big breakout. She'd later start in a Pretty
Speaker 2: Little Liar spin off and movies like Purple Hearts, Carry
Speaker 2: On and this Year's My Oxford Year. Sophia is currently
Speaker 2: having what we and the biz call a moment, so
Speaker 2: expect to see her a lot soon. And one of
Speaker 2: our favorite names, Booboo Stewart is back. Is Jay, the
Speaker 2: son of Jafar. He'd appeared in Twilight before this, so
Speaker 2: he clearly is being type cast as the really good
Speaker 2: looking guy. He's also the star of the show Good Trouble.
Speaker 2: And then Mitchell Hope is King Ben once again. Mitchell
Speaker 2: is best known from these movies, but he will soon
Speaker 2: appear in a film called Killer Whale. Where he gets
Speaker 2: trapped in a remote lagoon with a dangerous killer whale.
Speaker 4: I'm in absolutely, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean anytime you're trying to kill.
Speaker 4: At some point in this movie, by.
Speaker 1: The way, exactly right, exactly, No.
Speaker 2: I think the killer Whale is really cool. But then
Speaker 2: this little kid comes in and frees him, and then
Speaker 2: King Ben is fine, you're going to call it free
Speaker 2: the Killer Whale.
Speaker 1: I'll come up with a better title.
Speaker 2: And we have China and McClain as Uma, our newly
Speaker 2: cast villain, daughter of Ursula. She's a veteran actress who
Speaker 2: starred in Adam Sandler's Hubie, Halloween and Grown Ups alongside
Speaker 2: Cameron and part of the main cast for the TV
Speaker 2: shows Black Lightning and House of Pain. But Disney fans
Speaker 2: will remember her best as China parks to lead in
Speaker 2: the show and Farm. And we do not have Kristin
Speaker 2: Chenaworth or Adina Menzel in this one, unfortunately, but we
Speaker 2: do have snell alum Bobby moynihan as the voice of Dude.
Speaker 2: So not necessarily a fair trade, but hey.
Speaker 1: I'll take it.
Speaker 4: I'll take it.
Speaker 2: And uh now I know, okay, I know we're all
Speaker 2: having fun here. I got to get a little serious
Speaker 2: on you right now. I've tried my hardest to avoid this,
Speaker 2: but there's really nowhere to run, there's nowhere to turn to,
Speaker 2: there's nowhere to hide.
Speaker 1: No one's coming to help.
Speaker 2: This movie has a run time of one hundred and
Speaker 2: eleven minutes.
Speaker 1: Truly out of their mind. People.
Speaker 2: We look for ninety minutes here on magical re and
Speaker 2: yet we found ourselves twenty one minutes over the target,
Speaker 2: a full sitcom episode over the target. That's a new record,
Speaker 2: only nine minutes below two hours. Yeah, it might as
Speaker 2: well be a flight from LA to New York. That's
Speaker 2: just superfluous. I can't believe this decision. Kenny has a
Speaker 2: lot of explaining to do, Sabrina, Are you as disgusted
Speaker 2: as I am?
Speaker 3: You know, I felt it. I felt the twenty one
Speaker 3: minutes where the movie dragged a bit for me. You know,
Speaker 3: when you check your how much longer is this going on?
Speaker 3: We're having another situation? I felt it, and.
Speaker 4: I think for me it's like I don't know, it's
Speaker 4: I don't know what to say about it.
Speaker 3: Because I don't want it to be you know, it's
Speaker 3: just you feel it.
Speaker 4: You feel it, and it.
Speaker 2: For me, just I also noticed and I wanted to
Speaker 2: get into this later. There's a huge span of time
Speaker 2: in the second act there's no song. Yes, they go
Speaker 2: big chunk and I'm like, there nobody sung anything.
Speaker 1: They're acting, what the hell's going on?
Speaker 3: And then and the story is kind of dragging. It's
Speaker 3: not like it could have been a little bit quicker.
Speaker 3: I agree, although.
Speaker 4: You know this cast is stunning.
Speaker 3: Sore to watch their gorgeous faces.
Speaker 1: Really, but it was.
Speaker 3: It did it didn't started to get a little hazy,
Speaker 3: and you're just kind of like, let's sharpen it up,
Speaker 3: let's keep it moving.
Speaker 1: Agreed, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe we can blame the writers the same powerhouse
Speaker 2: duo from Descendants the First or well just Descendants like
Speaker 2: Sarah Parriot and Joe Sam McGibbon. There are movie credits
Speaker 2: include Three Men in the Little Lady and Runaway Bride,
Speaker 2: and on TV they wrote on Desperate Housewives, then created
Speaker 2: The Starter Wife, a show that earned them two Emmy nominations.
Speaker 2: And now get your nicest outfits press for Cotillion.
Speaker 1: Let's get into Descendants. Deh, That's what they call it
Speaker 1: in France.
Speaker 2: We are thrown right into this movie feeling a bit
Speaker 2: of a whiplash. Actually, it's our first song. Seconds into
Speaker 2: the film, called Ways to Be Wicked, we see mal
Speaker 2: Evjy and Carlos hovered over a cauldron looking spooky as hell,
Speaker 2: stirring a pot full of apples, and our villain kids
Speaker 2: are somehow evil again. They're tormenting Ordon's perfect little high
Speaker 2: school students with chaos like graffiti and throwing things at
Speaker 2: the school band while they pledge allegiance to their monster parents.
Speaker 2: They may have ended the first movie as nice guys,
Speaker 2: but that's not the case, with the opening number being
Speaker 2: a horrible influence by encouraging bad behavior and destruction. What
Speaker 2: the hell is going on, Sabrina? What did you think
Speaker 2: of the instant song and dance number? Just throwing us
Speaker 2: right into it?
Speaker 3: I love the instant dance. I love to be like
Speaker 3: this is a musical buckle up. I'm totally there for that.
Speaker 3: But I had to immediately pause put on the Descendants
Speaker 3: one rewinded about fifteen fifteen minutes to just make sure
Speaker 3: that what I was remembering was correct, in which they
Speaker 3: like ended at a a dance of some sort, and
Speaker 3: that everyone was kind of getting you know, we were mushing,
Speaker 3: the mom was a lizard, like, I mean, I just
Speaker 3: wanted to make sure I remembered right, so I had
Speaker 3: to And then I'm going, okay, okay, right. And then
Speaker 3: I looked and I waited all the way to the end.
Speaker 3: I watched all the credits to see if there was like.
Speaker 1: You know, like some in case. I was.
Speaker 3: Like, I literally was just waiting to go, like what
Speaker 3: the heck, because I just you know, and then I
Speaker 3: went okay, and then I kept going and then it
Speaker 3: made sense.
Speaker 4: But I did like the music.
Speaker 3: I loved the song. I thought it was great. Also
Speaker 3: thought the visuals right from the start. I loved the
Speaker 3: lockers that go through and you know, do the spell out.
Speaker 3: I love that the flags, all the visuals were there,
Speaker 3: the flags evil you know.
Speaker 4: I just it was awesome. I really loved it.
Speaker 3: And then I felt like a breath of fresh air
Speaker 3: in my anxiety heads and as I continued to roll
Speaker 3: to realize it was a dream scene.
Speaker 1: Thank god, Well it was a dream Secrets.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say something that might be a little
Speaker 2: controversial and a little a little bold, but this was
Speaker 2: some of my favorite music of any dcom that we've
Speaker 2: seen so far. I thought the songs were almost all bops. Yes,
Speaker 2: they had a vibe to them that was modern and hip.
Speaker 2: It didn't seem musical as much as it did almost
Speaker 2: like a music video, if.
Speaker 3: That makes it felt like a true album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like an album.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I really like and there's one or two
Speaker 2: slow ones that were a little slow for me, but
Speaker 2: the bops like this are very catchy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought the music was great.
Speaker 2: So yes, As my lovely co host here just said,
Speaker 2: it is just a day dream. Mal is actually surrounded
Speaker 2: by reporters outside of the school. There are only three
Speaker 2: days left before the Royal Katillion, where she will officially
Speaker 2: become a Lady of the Court. Sabrina, you seem like
Speaker 2: the katilion type.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Did you katillion?
Speaker 3: I did not, you know, but I was, you know,
Speaker 3: low key, uh, jealous of the friends that I had
Speaker 3: many friends around. There's a whole katilion thing in our
Speaker 3: area that I really and I will, honestly, if that's
Speaker 3: still happening when my kids are at that age, will
Speaker 3: want to do it. I was always like they were
Speaker 3: learning specific dances, they were learning about tablewear, etiquette, all
Speaker 3: of that stuff. They got to dress up in these
Speaker 3: like super cute dresses all the time. This was like
Speaker 3: a once a week thing. At the end there was
Speaker 3: like a graduation of it, which was the party that
Speaker 3: I obviously wasn't invited to.
Speaker 4: I mean just there was a lot of stuff to
Speaker 4: be sort of jealous about.
Speaker 1: So did you do your Kingsnira? No, I didn't do
Speaker 1: your kna either.
Speaker 3: No, not get a king Sennia. My dad really let
Speaker 3: me down on that one.
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, that would have been fun too.
Speaker 3: I'd had a good sixteenth birthday, a really fun inspects birthday,
Speaker 3: but not a katillion.
Speaker 1: Well, we won't tell people you're act age.
Speaker 2: So when I learned how to say thirty in Spanish,
Speaker 2: then that we'll have to throw that party for you,
Speaker 2: all right, thirty year.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I thought you
Speaker 1: would have had a continuerrate.
Speaker 2: No, no, Cotilion. We were not ktillion people in our
Speaker 2: town either. Like I don't think any of the girls
Speaker 2: went to a Kittilian or we had any of that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Now a big thing is, since I've grown up, a
Speaker 3: thing that a lot of my friends that I know
Speaker 3: that have kids going through high school's call is NCL,
Speaker 3: which is National Charity League, and they have a big
Speaker 3: debutante ball at the end where you're all in white
Speaker 3: dresses and all of that. Totally into that too. We
Speaker 3: will get that on for Monroe. Love those kinds of
Speaker 3: things that you're right, although I didn't get to participate
Speaker 3: in it, so down Monroe will be in all of them.
Speaker 1: I'm going to live through Monroe.
Speaker 3: She's hey, that's part of getting to be a parent,
Speaker 3: you get to do some of those kinds of things.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: So the reporters want to know if Mal has seen
Speaker 2: herself as a lady of the court. And we notice
Speaker 2: her hesitation, and we noticed now that her hair is blonde,
Speaker 2: no more purple. While it is a totally different look.
Speaker 2: She is accosted by the reporters. Ben finally steps in
Speaker 2: with the fairy godmother, who shushes the media off campus.
Speaker 2: Ben suggests they go somewhere on vacation to get away,
Speaker 2: but before he can plan anything, he realizes.
Speaker 1: He's late for a council meeting.
Speaker 2: Evie pulls mallaway to get fitted for a very tight
Speaker 2: yellow and blue gown with matching shoes. Of course, Mal
Speaker 2: complains about her busy schedule and wonders what life would
Speaker 2: be like if they were back on the Evil Island.
Speaker 2: They're interrupted by a news report showing footage of Ben
Speaker 2: and Mal, deemed the royal couple, dining with a lot
Speaker 2: of strawberries. They're pictured with Aladdin and Jasmine. Mal rushes
Speaker 2: off to one of her spell books so she can
Speaker 2: speed read a book about manners, but Evie sees this
Speaker 2: as cheating and knows Ben wouldn't like any secrets between them,
Speaker 2: and even though Mal said she needs help, Evie takes
Speaker 2: the book away. Mal admits she misses running wild and
Speaker 2: breaking the rules by stealing, lying and fighting back home,
Speaker 2: but Evie doesn't miss it. She loves Ordon and wants
Speaker 2: to leave.
Speaker 1: The past in the past.
Speaker 2: The next day, at school, the Core four that's Mal, Carlos,
Speaker 2: ev and Jay are walking together and every girl in
Speaker 2: school is flirting with Jay to be his cotillion date,
Speaker 2: but he's going solo. Okay, I got a question for
Speaker 2: you high school. You're in high school?
Speaker 1: Are you a Carlos or are you a j Fan?
Speaker 2: J You are Okay, the big, muscly, long hair, sporty
Speaker 2: kind of guy.
Speaker 4: Not long hair. That would have been probably my breaking
Speaker 4: point with it?
Speaker 1: But you don't like long hair on dudes?
Speaker 4: No, I still don't.
Speaker 1: Oh, man, so you must have hated me.
Speaker 4: I can't do the man bun thing, can't.
Speaker 1: Oh No, man bun is different than long hair.
Speaker 2: Like I like having hair, I know, but you don't
Speaker 2: have to put it in a man I never put
Speaker 2: my long hair.
Speaker 1: In a man bun.
Speaker 3: When your hair has has your hair been that long?
Speaker 3: Has it been Jay's long length?
Speaker 2: Maybe not that long, but pretty long middle like down
Speaker 2: past the shoulders, middle of the back kind of really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my hair.
Speaker 2: My problem is it's just too thick. So it's like
Speaker 2: a giant lion's mane.
Speaker 4: So it looks like a wig almost because it does.
Speaker 2: It does it looks like you remember the old pictures
Speaker 2: of sig Fried and Roy from back in the day,
Speaker 2: like when they had the big Like, that's what I
Speaker 2: look like.
Speaker 3: My Jordan, of my husband, when he was in junior
Speaker 3: high before he started high school, had long, thick hair,
Speaker 3: but it was like down to his shoulders.
Speaker 4: So I'd see pictures of it. But to me, that
Speaker 4: looks like young Like it's.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I've always I've always liked long hair. I
Speaker 2: think it's my need to be a Viking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh okay, that's different.
Speaker 1: That is different.
Speaker 4: We are getting into a different realm.
Speaker 1: There, we are, We definitely are. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I would make a horrible Viking. It would be terrible.
Speaker 1: We're like it gets cooked enough. No, that's terrible.
Speaker 2: So yes, every girl in the school is flirting with
Speaker 2: Jay to be his skatilian date, but he's going solo
Speaker 2: so he can dance.
Speaker 1: With all of them. What a player. That reminds me
Speaker 1: of the joke about the two bulls. Look it up.
Speaker 1: You know you know the joke. You know you must
Speaker 1: know the joke, right, No, you do? Okay, good. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Carlos is.
Speaker 2: Having trouble asking a girl named Jane, who is on
Speaker 2: the preparation committee and needs a lot of answers from Mal.
Speaker 2: But Mal looks overwhelmed by these responsibilities. She's immediately struck
Speaker 2: and shocked by something. Her eyes turned green and it
Speaker 2: quickly passes. She turns back to normal, giving Jane some
Speaker 2: of the answers she needed, but something is definitely brewing,
Speaker 2: and that's when Mal realized say that the cotillion is
Speaker 2: a pre wedding engagement and panics. We also learned that
Speaker 2: Ben is secretly and talks with Jane about making a
Speaker 2: stained glass decoration for the big event. Meanwhile, now Chad
Speaker 2: Charming is at Evie's getting his Cotillion suit tailored, hoping
Speaker 2: to be picked as king to impress Aubrey. His now
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend Jay walks by and alerts Chad there's a
Speaker 2: fencing team.
Speaker 1: Meeting in the amphitheater. In five minutes.
Speaker 2: The athletes leave, and Evie's nerdy assistant Doug, who remember
Speaker 2: is the son of Dopey, alerts.
Speaker 1: Evie that with Oliver seamstress work, she is rich.
Speaker 2: He thinks one day she'll even be able to buy
Speaker 2: that castle that she wants and won't even need a prince.
Speaker 1: But she insists she doesn't need a prince because she.
Speaker 2: Has nerdy Doug, and I gotta be honest with you,
Speaker 2: my favorite relationship of the entire movie, So this.
Speaker 4: One is adorable.
Speaker 2: He is kicking so far out of his coverage, and
Speaker 2: I am proud of him because it is awesome.
Speaker 1: I love these two and I want an entire movie
Speaker 1: of just the two events. I know, total spin off awesome.
Speaker 2: In the hallway, a frantic Mau is at her locker
Speaker 2: when Ben surprises her. She's obviously still very show by
Speaker 2: how Cotilion seems to be setting her up for the
Speaker 2: rest of her life, which, again, when you're sixteen or seventeen,
Speaker 2: seems to be an awful lot. Ben is another surprise
Speaker 2: for her too, but first he notices her spell book
Speaker 2: in the locker. He thought she donated that to a museum,
Speaker 2: and she quickly.
Speaker 1: Changes the subject.
Speaker 2: Ben drags her maybe five feet away three feet away
Speaker 2: from the lockers to reveal a brand new purple scooter
Speaker 2: moped type thing, which is huge, something she clearly would
Speaker 2: have seen before he pointed it.
Speaker 1: Out to her.
Speaker 2: It was literally next to her locker. Hey, when'd you
Speaker 2: get this new purple moped?
Speaker 1: Where? Where is this.
Speaker 2: Or not?
Speaker 4: Whose is that? Why are they? Why on why is
Speaker 4: it in the hallway?
Speaker 2: As many questions that come with the giant purple moped
Speaker 2: that's there. I feel like it's something she would immediately see,
Speaker 2: but either way, she loves it and wants to pay
Speaker 2: him back somehow. He says they're picnic today, will do
Speaker 2: the trick, but mal has obviously forgotten that plan. She
Speaker 2: lies and pretends she's got everything covered and runs off
Speaker 2: over at the ampitheater, the fencing.
Speaker 1: Team is practicing, and since the sport forces you to.
Speaker 2: Wear a helmet, we get a group of stunt doubles
Speaker 2: doing some very cool work here. That was one thing
Speaker 2: about this movie that I like quite a bit is
Speaker 2: they made more actiony kind of sword fighty stuff that
Speaker 2: was reminiscent of the old pirate movies and.
Speaker 4: And something we had fun an actual fight fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with kicking and punching and sword fighting and hostages
Speaker 2: and not have not seen so far now, And it
Speaker 2: was done in a very Disney esque way and still
Speaker 2: would have been okay for kids.
Speaker 1: I always remembered my friend and I.
Speaker 2: Pitching something to Disney thirty years ago, whatever it was,
Speaker 2: and the people at Disney we pitched you always said,
Speaker 2: if you're doing anything like this, remember action, not violence.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what this was.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of action with very little violence,
Speaker 2: which is a great combination that exactly what you're looking for.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the sword fighting was very very cool.
Speaker 2: And Jay ends up in an intense battle with an
Speaker 2: unknown opponent, and even though it's just practice, it gets
Speaker 2: very heated and Jay almost loses the foe remove who's
Speaker 2: their helmet? And it's a girl what girls can't do?
Speaker 1: Yes, they can.
Speaker 2: They're awesome because it's Lannie, who's Mulan's daughter, and everyone
Speaker 2: is impressed.
Speaker 1: She wants on the team.
Speaker 2: But Chad, of course, being Chad, isn't He's a real
Speaker 2: Chad in this movie, isn't having it. They'll be the
Speaker 2: laughing stock of the league. And the rule book says
Speaker 2: a team has eight men and no women. Carlos also
Speaker 2: spots Jane and tries to ask her to the cotillion,
Speaker 2: but once again chickens out and she painfully friend zones him.
Speaker 1: Even his nearby dog Dude, is embarrassed for him.
Speaker 2: And I like this scene because it looked like they
Speaker 2: tried to do it like a Disney princess where she's
Speaker 2: at the top of the balcony and he's standing below
Speaker 2: and he's looking up, but he doesn't have the guts
Speaker 2: to ask about it. Was that a nice Disney moment.
Speaker 3: Kenny Ortega is just amazing, like beautiful keeping it in
Speaker 3: that Disney realm.
Speaker 4: Everything we want is right there, all because of Kenny.
Speaker 2: There was a number of different ties into just old
Speaker 2: school Disney shots in this movie where it's like they're
Speaker 2: bringing it back, and I was here.
Speaker 1: For all of it. Yes.
Speaker 2: Later in Carlos's room, a panic mouse storms in. The
Speaker 2: pure is getting to her and she has another green
Speaker 2: eyed attack, snapping out of it, but this time with
Speaker 2: a little more effort needed. She admits she misses being evil,
Speaker 2: but knows everyone around her loves the new surroundings. Carlos
Speaker 2: just wants to know if she brought it, but before
Speaker 2: we can learn what it is, Chad wants Chad again.
Speaker 2: This guy sneaks into Carlos's room with a stolen key.
Speaker 2: He says he was just planning to use the three
Speaker 2: D printer, but after getting caught, he just leaves.
Speaker 1: Now alone again.
Speaker 2: We learned that it was a truth gummy and the
Speaker 2: only thing going through my head was they were doing drugs.
Speaker 2: It will give Carlos the ability to tell Jane exactly
Speaker 2: what it's Seriously, It's like, you bring my gummy. It's like,
Speaker 2: come on, I want to I want to drop some
Speaker 2: acid before I go to class.
Speaker 3: I yeah that this was a little like uh oh, okay.
Speaker 1: Take a truth gummy.
Speaker 2: By the way, any any good THC gummy eventually becomes
Speaker 2: a truth gummy. It will also give Carlos the ability
Speaker 2: to tell Jane exactly what he's thinking, but it'll also
Speaker 2: make him tell the truth about everything in his life.
Speaker 2: But just as he's about to it, says take it.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say drop it, because that's what he's
Speaker 2: gonna do. Carlos's dog, Dude eats the gummy. Oh and
Speaker 2: that's when dude starts talking, yep, talking, and the pup
Speaker 2: immediately tells Carlos to just man up and help him
Speaker 2: scratch his butt.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't get.
Speaker 2: The point of the talking dog. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2: First of all, it's a truth gummy. It's not a
Speaker 2: magic gummy that makes a dog talk.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: It was like, I get where they're going, but then
Speaker 2: use the dog to do I mean, I get they
Speaker 2: use him later in the one thing to kind of
Speaker 2: prove yeah, they're they're the wand works.
Speaker 1: I get that, but it just.
Speaker 2: Seemed kind of unnecessary to me to have to animate
Speaker 2: the dog. Yeah talking, I maybe he's bigger in the
Speaker 2: future movies. And hearing Bobby Morynhan was great, but it
Speaker 2: was just kind of like, all right, I didn't I
Speaker 2: didn't know if this was new. And then we got
Speaker 2: a lot of scratching his butt jokes, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't just.
Speaker 3: Didn't Yeah, I just I mean, I feel like it
Speaker 3: was a great idea. They certainly had the budget to
Speaker 3: do something like this, right, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: it was necessarily executed to its fullest.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I also felt like, as of because I'm a voiceover actor,
Speaker 2: it's what I primarily do, I felt like it Normally,
Speaker 2: we go and we record the voice, and then they
Speaker 2: animate your mouth around the voice, and that's how it
Speaker 2: looks the best. They you know, you go and you
Speaker 2: lay down the track and then they go and they
Speaker 2: animate around you. So they can actually I've seen it.
Speaker 2: There's a very interesting back in the day when it
Speaker 2: was drawing all the vowels, all the consonants, everything, they
Speaker 2: have pictures of how your mouth looks when you make them,
Speaker 2: and the animators can actually animate perfectly around whatever sound
Speaker 2: your mouth is making. This one looked to me like
Speaker 2: they were having the actors speak almost as slowly as
Speaker 2: possible so they.
Speaker 1: Can make the mouth flaps fit. Oh and so it didn't.
Speaker 2: It looked like it was like, hey, come over here
Speaker 2: and scratch my butt instead.
Speaker 1: Of as a voiceover act, you'd be like, yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: get over here, you know, you know you want to
Speaker 1: scratch my butt.
Speaker 2: But it seemed like they couldn't have him talking fast,
Speaker 2: so it was kind of like, hey, I'm just here
Speaker 2: to help you, and it's like okay, and it just
Speaker 2: it didn't seem to kind of fit. So that was
Speaker 2: as a voiceover actor that drove me crazy wherever.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, let him just.
Speaker 2: Act and then animate the dog's mouth around it instead
Speaker 2: of trying to have him talk slow.
Speaker 3: Yes, and even not being that knowledgeable in it, it
Speaker 3: still was just kind of like you were expecting the
Speaker 3: dog to do something more than what he ends.
Speaker 4: Up doing within the movie.
Speaker 3: Yes, and again you know we all know that that
Speaker 3: takes money out of your budget to have something like
Speaker 3: that a part of the production, right, So it was
Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, this isn't the only myths
Speaker 3: they do with those kinds.
Speaker 1: Of oh, I agree, extra little bonuses. I agree.
Speaker 2: The other thing is they were kind of trying to
Speaker 2: go for it, but they didn't go nearly far enough
Speaker 2: with the talking dog, which is he also ate a
Speaker 2: truth gummy, and the whole point of the truth gummy
Speaker 2: is that you tell the truth all the time. So
Speaker 2: they could have more. I've got fleas and hey, your
Speaker 2: feet stink. I mean, there's so many other things they
Speaker 2: could have. They seem to just now the gummy made
Speaker 2: him talk, but didn't really make him tell the truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way he was supposed.
Speaker 4: To do, which is so which is a rule?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well again you they set the rules. It's like it's
Speaker 2: literally called the truth gummy. Okay, well it's gonna make
Speaker 2: you tell the truth about everything, ye okay.
Speaker 1: Well then it made the dog talk just a little bit.
Speaker 1: What okay, Yeah, so anyway, just a little bit. Yeah, anyway. Uh,
Speaker 1: them are on the Aisle of the Lost.
Speaker 2: That's right, we are back for the first time in
Speaker 2: this movie, and a smirking Harry, the son of Captain Hook.
Speaker 2: We know this because he's wearing a fake hook walks
Speaker 2: through town, eventually landing in the saloon. Good looking dude,
Speaker 2: by the way, right off the bat, it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: cool looking guy, good looking dude holding the hook. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it was I could see that I personally, as
Speaker 2: I'm watching this now, trying to watch it as a kid.
Speaker 2: See a bunch of eleven and twelve year old girls
Speaker 2: like having posters of this guy.
Speaker 1: On their wall. Totally you know, the bad, bad boy
Speaker 1: kind of thing.
Speaker 3: His accent that he does, his mannerisms totally gave me
Speaker 3: baby Johnny.
Speaker 1: Depp, like, oh okay, interesting that I.
Speaker 3: Feel like he would because he wasn't basing him off
Speaker 3: of Like for me, it looks like this actor wasn't
Speaker 3: basing it off of like the.
Speaker 4: Cartoon Hook No, or even the movie or the movie
Speaker 4: Hook with Robin Williams. He wasn't basing it off of that.
Speaker 3: He was looking into what makes sense because this audience,
Speaker 3: if they've seen anything really on, like you know what
Speaker 3: a like a captain, like a pirate would be, would
Speaker 3: be Pirates.
Speaker 4: Of the Caribbean.
Speaker 3: So he went more with that, Johnny Depp, and it
Speaker 3: was here for it.
Speaker 2: It definitely yes. He walks through town, eventually landing in
Speaker 2: a saloon. He turns on the bars TV to see
Speaker 2: mal just as Uma, the daughter of Ursula, enters, looking
Speaker 2: totally cool.
Speaker 1: She throws food at the screen.
Speaker 2: This little pirate crew, which also includes Gil, the son
Speaker 2: of Gaston, sees our core forest traders who turn their
Speaker 2: back on evil. Uma is ready to seek revenge, especially
Speaker 2: on mal and we get our second song, and again
Speaker 2: there was a very big break between song number one
Speaker 2: and song number two.
Speaker 1: The basing of.
Speaker 2: The songs in this movie I found to be very odd,
Speaker 2: but I loved the songs, including this one, It's What's
Speaker 2: My Name, which is a big bad guy introduction.
Speaker 1: What did you think of this?
Speaker 3: Uh uh, Sabrina, Oh, this might be my favorite song
Speaker 3: of this movie.
Speaker 1: It was great. It was great.
Speaker 4: The choreo was so good.
Speaker 3: These dancers were incredible, the visuals that they used with
Speaker 3: the choreo, and then it like they really worked this set.
Speaker 4: Just like Rotten to the coo.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it makes you like open your eyes
Speaker 3: and look at this insane set that they have. They're
Speaker 3: swinging on things, they're jumping, they're using the tables, they're
Speaker 3: different level. I mean, there's all these levels. Then we
Speaker 3: start getting props, we've got swords, We've got I mean.
Speaker 4: It was so good.
Speaker 3: Her voice is just phenomenal, Like I just I mean,
Speaker 3: it was so such a good movie and was like,
Speaker 3: oh my, here we are. We're here, and we've got
Speaker 3: new villains and these villains are badass. It's a great villas,
Speaker 3: a great villain and are dumb dumb from Guston perfectly created.
Speaker 4: Like I mean, it's just so so good.
Speaker 3: It really pumped me up for like, this is our
Speaker 3: first time seeing that the fresh faces we're gonna see
Speaker 3: in this movie, and I was like, yes, we've nailed it,
Speaker 3: nailed on d let's move forward.
Speaker 1: I agree percent.
Speaker 2: As the song ends, we get a big special effects
Speaker 2: tentacle octopus.
Speaker 1: Arm entering the saloon.
Speaker 2: I have a problem with all of these special effects,
Speaker 2: but we'll get into that. It's supposed to be an
Speaker 2: angry ursula from the next room. She apparently owns the
Speaker 2: place on the other side of the ocean. Things are
Speaker 2: romantic on malan Ben's picnic date. Mal is somehow able
Speaker 2: to get tons of food in time, and Ben is
Speaker 2: very impressed, but when he finds the spell book in
Speaker 2: her picnic basket, he realizes she's been using dark magic
Speaker 2: to fit in. She tries to reverse what he discovered,
Speaker 2: and that makes him even angrier. Yeah, hey, maybe on
Speaker 2: a date, don't try to erase my memory. They get
Speaker 2: into a heated argument, with mal admitting she just isn't
Speaker 2: princess material.
Speaker 1: She sees herself as a phony.
Speaker 2: She storms off, revealed she actually only made one peanut
Speaker 2: butter and jelly sandwich, which well turned out to be
Speaker 2: Ben's favorite.
Speaker 1: Back in the room, a.
Speaker 2: Crying Mal decides she's ready to blow this popsicle stand.
Speaker 2: She grabs her lizard and drives off on her new
Speaker 2: purple moped. She uses the spellbook to cross the ocean,
Speaker 2: glide back into the Aisle of the Lost, and find
Speaker 2: a secret loft.
Speaker 3: And she's like sorry, it is like, okay, I've got
Speaker 3: to get out of here, but I'm gonna use that
Speaker 3: gift you gave me, so.
Speaker 1: Like what a typical girl.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, No, like you need to if you're
Speaker 3: gonna go, go, honey.
Speaker 4: Do not take his his gift he gave you, go
Speaker 4: on your own. Why don't you try walking now?
Speaker 3: Okay it's hers, Oh no, no, no, You're gonna try to.
Speaker 4: Make a statement about how strong you are and how you.
Speaker 1: Just can't make his life.
Speaker 3: Leave all this stuff behind, start walking your ass back
Speaker 3: over to that aisle. Like I can't even handle that.
Speaker 3: I was so like, you're gonna take them. You're taking
Speaker 3: the mot Okay, we're taking the moped, all right, that's great.
Speaker 2: Ann and our don Ben is in his office when
Speaker 2: Evie arrives with the news, and I love that when
Speaker 2: he's like on the phone with like, please tell Lemuore,
Speaker 2: I need to speak with him about like all the
Speaker 2: kind of Disney references that they're making in these little
Speaker 2: throw offs are great. He's in his office when Evie
Speaker 2: arrives with the news that Mal has left for the island.
Speaker 2: She left behind his ring in a note week Ben
Speaker 2: immediately blames himself and the stress of ktillion.
Speaker 1: Of course he's blaming himself.
Speaker 2: He wants to go to the island and beg for
Speaker 2: her to return, so Evie asked to tag along. They
Speaker 2: decide to invite the boys too because safety and numbers,
Speaker 2: but Evie makes Ben promise to change his clothes and
Speaker 2: make sure he doesn't leave her there. Simultaneously, on the island,
Speaker 2: Mal visits Lady Tremaine's Curl Up and Die hair salon
Speaker 2: with paint splattered everywhere.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a Disney question for you. Yes, who
Speaker 1: who is Disney? Who is Dizzey related to who's Lady Tremaine?
Speaker 1: I didn't want to google. I wanted you to tell me.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is the evil stepmom of Cinderella.
Speaker 2: Ah okay, and she's Cinderella. Cinderella's evil stepmother is called
Speaker 2: Lady Tremaine. I'm not sure I every knew that, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 4: Per and Dizzy is her granddaughter.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha.
Speaker 4: Oh, we didn't even talk about in our cast. Is
Speaker 4: like a giant little actor now. I mean she has show. Yes,
Speaker 4: she was on.
Speaker 3: She's XO Kitty is like her. I think Flick show.
Speaker 3: She's so good. I was son, Yes, I was so
Speaker 3: happy to see her in this, and then it was
Speaker 3: also her EXO Kitty was a spin off of another.
Speaker 4: Show that she played the little Sister.
Speaker 3: Very similar, okay, very similar character stars and shines and everything.
Speaker 1: She oh yeah, well so cute and adorable.
Speaker 3: Adorable even now that she's older and she's playing like
Speaker 3: a girl in high school.
Speaker 4: Amazing.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: This is twenty seventeen, so you forget, this is already
Speaker 2: seven years ago. She was probably eleven there, so she's
Speaker 2: probably seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years old already.
Speaker 1: Oh god, this is strange to think they grow up
Speaker 1: so fast.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Dizzy, Tremaine's granddaughter and Evie's mentee, is cleaning up
Speaker 2: the shop and agrees to help Mouth with a new
Speaker 2: die job, and so we get a little montage of
Speaker 2: a return.
Speaker 1: To the evil purple dye.
Speaker 2: Were we happy to see her return to her root
Speaker 2: pun totally intended?
Speaker 3: I actually, of course I was, although I did love
Speaker 3: the blonde. That's what Dove Cameron looks like on red Carpet.
Speaker 3: She's stunning and she has this gorgeous blonde air. I
Speaker 3: loved the purple.
Speaker 4: Tips, still kind of keeping it in realm. But what
Speaker 4: I love the most is this wig.
Speaker 3: Was like seven thousand times better than the first wig
Speaker 3: of the first movie.
Speaker 4: That wig I went.
Speaker 3: And then when they later on, they'll do a couple
Speaker 3: of you know, a montage of older shots when she
Speaker 3: was in the first movie. This wig is stunning on her.
Speaker 3: I love the bangs. I love the color being a
Speaker 3: little bit lighter.
Speaker 4: I was really into.
Speaker 1: The way I went.
Speaker 4: Damn it. I wish I would have had enough time.
Speaker 4: I wanted to do a purple wig for this episode.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna have to make sure when we do
Speaker 3: des Sentence three, I gotta bring the wig back.
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta a good one.
Speaker 2: A big fan of the color, never been a fan
Speaker 2: of bangs. Susan knows that no, not at all, not
Speaker 2: a bang.
Speaker 1: God, one person can pull off bangs and she just
Speaker 1: got engaged.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I cannot believe you know that? Will?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 4: My what do you mean? Of course you don't listen
Speaker 4: to the radio. You go on Instagram?
Speaker 1: Where are you married?
Speaker 2: Do you think my wife didn't run any Oh my god,
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift gotta gate like it, like it? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: are we invited? Because if not, how does this affect
Speaker 2: my life?
Speaker 3: Why do you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 4: Okay, So you like some Tea Swift bags, guy, that's.
Speaker 1: It, right, Lady, Taylor is the only one that can. Actually,
Speaker 1: you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Have girls showing up at all those cons you you
Speaker 3: start going to with those damn bangs, and they're gonna
Speaker 3: be perfect Tea Swift bangs.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's the way it is.
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Speaker 2: Once Mel pays the little helper, pirate Harry arrives and
Speaker 2: shakes down the kid for the money.
Speaker 1: He eventually sees Mal and can't wait to tell Uma.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, now the Core three plus Ben, who is dressed
Speaker 2: like a goth high schooler, takes a limo across the ocean.
Speaker 2: The plan is to avoid their parents and blend in,
Speaker 2: which isn't easy, especially since Eve is immediately robbed by
Speaker 2: two little kids and Ben unsuccessfully tries to introduce himself
Speaker 2: to an angry pirate. He's instructed to be mean and relaxed,
Speaker 2: which leads to our next song, Chilling Like a Villain,
Speaker 2: a step by step instruction manual on how to survive
Speaker 2: the island.
Speaker 1: I loved this song again.
Speaker 3: I loved it, and I loved that the chorus kept
Speaker 3: coming back and then we were doing the same movement.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is perfect. This is Genny in
Speaker 3: his like whole realm, Like, let's not just have awesome songs,
Speaker 3: let's give kids choreography to like easily learn and bop
Speaker 3: along with us Janie man Arm And.
Speaker 2: When the song comes to a close, they bump into
Speaker 2: gil uh Oh. It takes a minute, but he figures
Speaker 2: out who they are and runs off to Uma. Ev
Speaker 2: takes Ben to Mao's loft, where she's spray painting a
Speaker 2: very impressive mural. Ben immediately apologizes for the fight, taking
Speaker 2: all the blame and begging her to come home, but
Speaker 2: Mal says she is home. She doesn't think she can
Speaker 2: change and knows the kingdom will eventually turn on her.
Speaker 2: He professes his love to her, but she can't say
Speaker 2: it back. She doesn't accept the ring, tells him to leave,
Speaker 2: and goes back to spray painting a masterpiece.
Speaker 1: While once again keeping his moped. He rejoins the group
Speaker 1: and tells them the bad news, and just.
Speaker 2: As Evie tries to start thinking of a plan to
Speaker 2: get Mal to change her mind, they realize Ben has
Speaker 2: walked off and they only.
Speaker 1: See Harry Hook.
Speaker 2: Junior admits they've taken Ben and the only way to
Speaker 2: see him again is to bring Malt to Ursula's restaurant tonight.
Speaker 2: Whould have predicted Ursula had a restaurant, not an obvious
Speaker 2: career path in my opinion, but that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: I guess nice fish fry like she's cooking like a
Speaker 1: fellow fish. But anyway, and with.
Speaker 4: The fish and chips was interesting.
Speaker 3: That was part of one of my that's what the
Speaker 3: name was, Ursula's fish and chips, And it was interesting because.
Speaker 1: She's a fish, she's like eating fellow fish.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was ya.
Speaker 2: It's like why not serve Kalamari Ursula geese. And with
Speaker 2: these new developments, they finally get to Mal, who knows
Speaker 2: Uma wants her, so she confidently goes to the restaurant
Speaker 2: alone and upon arrival is immediately tense.
Speaker 1: The two girls have a war of words.
Speaker 2: Mal wants Ben back and Uma asks for better conditions
Speaker 2: on the island for the poor.
Speaker 1: They decide to arm wrestle.
Speaker 2: If malwyn she gets back Ben, but if Uma win,
Speaker 2: she gets the fairy Godmother's wand and when the villain
Speaker 2: is victorious, Mal knows this is going to be very,
Speaker 2: very bad. Mal returns to the group and they brainstorm
Speaker 2: an idea of how to deliver a fake wand then
Speaker 2: sneak Ben off the island. But before they get into
Speaker 2: deep into planning, they visit Young Dizzy, the tiny hairdresser,
Speaker 2: who is happy to see Evie.
Speaker 1: They use the.
Speaker 2: Girl's workspace to make smoke bombs, and Evie borrows a
Speaker 2: tiara that the girl made. As they leave, Evie is
Speaker 2: visibly sad, knowing the young girl is stuck in her
Speaker 2: grandma's studio unable to grow. And then the boys are
Speaker 2: back at their doorroom to use the three D printer
Speaker 2: for the wand and they catch Chad back in Carlos's
Speaker 2: room without permission. Such a Chad, he's making an action
Speaker 2: figure of himself. When do the Dog reveals that Ben
Speaker 2: has been captured, We also notice that Lonnie overheard everything
Speaker 2: while walking by. On their way back to the island loft,
Speaker 2: Mal tells ev she is definitely not coming back to Orodon,
Speaker 2: but encourages her friend to stay there, and this leads
Speaker 2: to our next song space between a song about their
Speaker 2: long friendship and the hope they'll keep in touch. We
Speaker 2: also see clips from Descendant one, which, if I'm honest,
Speaker 2: when you're halfway through the second one, you don't need
Speaker 2: a retrospective cutting back to the first one. It's like
Speaker 2: we've we're not that far in. When you're in the
Speaker 2: third and fourth movie, you cut back to the first one.
Speaker 2: You don't need to cut back to the first time
Speaker 2: Hunger Games when you're in the second Hunger Games, Like, but.
Speaker 3: I think this would be part of number one. Did
Speaker 3: we one hundred percent need this song?
Speaker 1: No, we did. This is one of the part of.
Speaker 4: The twenty one minutes.
Speaker 3: But I did like But even though like within the storyline,
Speaker 3: I did like the song. I love the message of
Speaker 3: the song. I think this is a very relatable theme
Speaker 3: for girls, especially as they're growing up and they're they're changing,
Speaker 3: you know, their their interests are changing, They're they're they're
Speaker 3: maybe getting boyfriends or new friend groups or whatever, and
Speaker 3: you grow up with somebody for so long and you
Speaker 3: start kind of going maybe separate ways. This is so
Speaker 3: relatable for girls and guys. I'm sure too, but like
Speaker 3: for girls to really have this like we're we are
Speaker 3: connected and no matter how far we go, we are
Speaker 3: always going to be our classes.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 3: Guy, Yeah, but some guys are right. But so I
Speaker 3: I really loved that theme. But was it one hundred
Speaker 3: percent necessary? No, But they also made it very clear
Speaker 3: there was no time in the timeframe to go anywhere
Speaker 3: else and film anything else. They were all like just
Speaker 3: right in that one little area outside of Mal's house
Speaker 3: or sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever that's called loft.
Speaker 1: Secret loft was at.
Speaker 3: A secret loft, so I think that was the only
Speaker 3: way they could kind of add a little bit more
Speaker 3: than just walking in the around that, right.
Speaker 2: And of course the two of them together with the
Speaker 2: voices that they have, you're never going to go wrong.
Speaker 1: It's great, So it just might.
Speaker 2: It might have been one, like if I had to
Speaker 2: cut a song, this probably would have been the one.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't, like, oh my god, I can't believe
Speaker 2: I have to sit through this again. You've got two
Speaker 2: great actresses with phenomenal voices, so it worked, right.
Speaker 1: And then we're back at the dorm.
Speaker 2: The one is finally finishing on their way out there,
Speaker 2: spotted by Doug who wants to know where Evie is.
Speaker 2: They say she's camping, which I must say is a
Speaker 2: pretty good lie. And then Lonnie surprises them too. She's
Speaker 2: overheard everything. She gives them an ultimatum. She's either going
Speaker 2: to join them or she's going to tell the fairy
Speaker 2: Godmother that Ben is gone. And now we're on the
Speaker 2: pirate ship, which is an incredibly which is an incredible
Speaker 2: computer graphic set. Ben is all tied up, held captive
Speaker 2: and he's said to be I imagine killed. In thirty minutes,
Speaker 2: Uma learns that Mal broke up with him and seems
Speaker 2: very interested. She reiterates her plan is for fairness when
Speaker 2: it comes to class warfare on the island, which, if
Speaker 2: we're Hona, seems like a pretty reasonable platform to take. It's,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of hard to hate her for that,
Speaker 2: and she wants everyone to be on a level playing field.
Speaker 2: Ben says his plan is to bring more and more
Speaker 2: people to Orodon and invites Uma first, but she's not
Speaker 2: fully sold. It seems like maybe she has something up
Speaker 2: her sleeve. Soon after, the boys, now with Lannie and
Speaker 2: Dude the dog who hid in the trunk, make it
Speaker 2: back to the island with the limo, now with the
Speaker 2: three D printed wand in hand, and with Dude told
Speaker 2: to stay in the limo again.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, yeah, the dog just added another level
Speaker 1: to me. But anyway, they make.
Speaker 2: It to the ship just in time for our next number,
Speaker 2: a rap song called It's Going Down, all about the
Speaker 2: upcoming trade wand for king or else.
Speaker 1: Ben walks the plank. Did you like this one?
Speaker 4: This wasn't necessarily my favorite one?
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't my favorite either wasn't bad, but it.
Speaker 4: Was wasn't bad. No, it wasn't bad at all.
Speaker 3: Again, I'm like totally into the sets and all of
Speaker 3: the things that are happening. But you know, if you
Speaker 3: had to pick and choose, I liked it. It just
Speaker 3: wasn't one of those ones where I was like, damn,
Speaker 3: this is so good, like all around good. The song's great,
Speaker 3: the visuals are great, but like I mean, there were
Speaker 3: other ones that just jumped out of the screen to me,
Speaker 3: and this wasn't necessarily that one.
Speaker 2: It's so funny because at first, when I saw the
Speaker 2: set and I saw the water and I saw kind
Speaker 2: of some of the cheesy.
Speaker 1: Effects, I was like, ugh, this doesn't look very good.
Speaker 1: And then it hit me.
Speaker 2: I was like, it's not supposed to It's supposed to
Speaker 2: look like a Disney fairytale land. Yeah, that's the point
Speaker 2: that the water is supposed to be a different color,
Speaker 2: the pirate ship's supposed to look That's the whole point.
Speaker 3: Set was my favorite part, to be honest, like, and
Speaker 3: we're getting into we're about to get into my like
Speaker 3: one of my favorite scenes that just made me feel
Speaker 3: like this gives me all the disney Kid for me too, Yes, totally,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean I get it. Yeah, first you're
Speaker 3: kind of like, okay, but then you know it is.
Speaker 3: But the song itself was just kind of like another
Speaker 3: good song. It wasn't like this amazing song. But the
Speaker 3: set is what we have to get into when we
Speaker 3: get into this next scene. Because I was smiling ear
Speaker 3: to ear.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of Hook.
Speaker 3: Favorite movies of all times is Hook and this was Hook,
Speaker 3: the powder throwing, like all of it, the like, I mean,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it.
Speaker 4: Was so so cute. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I agreed it. I agree.
Speaker 2: I had to get out of my own head because
Speaker 2: I was like, look very good. But I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 2: it's not supposed to it's supposed to look like Hook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's supposed to look like Disney like it's like
Speaker 3: at Disneyland.
Speaker 2: And when I got that out of my head and
Speaker 2: saw it for what it was, I was like, it's perfect.
Speaker 1: It's pretty much perfect.
Speaker 2: Yes, And now just before the trade has made, Uma
Speaker 2: wants to see the wand at work to make sure
Speaker 2: she's getting the real deal. Oh, drive it before you
Speaker 2: buy it. Luckily, dude, the dog has disobeyed orders and
Speaker 2: is now in the ship. So, thinking on her toes,
Speaker 2: Mal uses the wand to quote give him a voice unquote,
Speaker 2: something we know he already has. And so when due
Speaker 2: the dog clearly asked, does this vest make me look fat?
Speaker 2: The wand looks legit. Harry releases the king and the
Speaker 2: trade is officially made. The Ordon group high tails out
Speaker 2: just as Uma figures out the one is useless. It
Speaker 2: becomes an all out war with the good guys using
Speaker 2: their smoke bombs and the pirates in full pirrating mode.
Speaker 2: We get sword fights, which Lani's very good at. We
Speaker 2: see rope swinging with people falling into the ocean. It's
Speaker 2: all very cool, and we get a lot of Kenny
Speaker 2: Ortega fight choreography, which is superb. It ends with the
Speaker 2: gang finally getting away and back in a limo, but
Speaker 2: oh no, Mal has accidentally left behind her spell book.
Speaker 2: What a damn nightmare, But what a scene. On the
Speaker 2: way back, Ben admits that Uma has made him see
Speaker 2: the truth. She just got angry that her people don't
Speaker 2: get the same opportunities, which makes sense. Also, we get
Speaker 2: the feeling that he thought Uma was pretty cute back
Speaker 2: at school with the cotillion just hours away. Ben offers
Speaker 2: Mal the chance to back out. Conflicted the core ford,
Speaker 2: so I had to talk it out together. Mal is broken.
Speaker 2: The stress is too much for her, but they encourage
Speaker 2: her to give it a chance. And Evie's even gonna
Speaker 2: make some changes to her dress so she feels more comfortable,
Speaker 2: and Dude even gives Carlos some words of wisdom, finally
Speaker 2: getting them to ask Jane out. She says yes, even
Speaker 2: to a suggestion they become more than friends. Ooh ooh
Speaker 2: really And over at team practice, Jay announces he found
Speaker 2: a loophole and adds Lani as the new captain. They
Speaker 2: needed a captain and eight men. Okay, well didn't say
Speaker 2: the captain couldn't be a woman. So things are really
Speaker 2: coming together over in Evie's room, and I'm sorry, but
Speaker 2: my favorite part of that scene was she gets to
Speaker 2: be captain. She puts on the thing and she looks
Speaker 2: at him. She goes, I can't wait to tell my
Speaker 2: mom where It's like, can you imagine telling Mulan I
Speaker 2: was just made the captain of the fencing team. Totally
Speaker 2: cool Disney moment. It's little moments like that that just
Speaker 2: to make.
Speaker 4: This movie so special.
Speaker 3: It does because if you are, especially if you are
Speaker 3: a Disney fanatic, you hear every single one of those
Speaker 3: little things, little to register all of them, and they
Speaker 3: always just do it.
Speaker 4: It's never like a giant moment.
Speaker 3: It's just like small, little, tiny moments that just mean
Speaker 3: so much and completely ties the whole Disney world together
Speaker 3: as one big universe.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Disney comes to you tomorrow and they say pick, Yes,
Speaker 2: you can be in the next Descent.
Speaker 1: Yes, you gotta pick. You can't just.
Speaker 2: Say yes you can be in the next Descendants movie,
Speaker 2: or you can be in the next Zombies movie, but
Speaker 2: it can only be one.
Speaker 1: Which will do Ah.
Speaker 3: Okay, I love the Zombies. I think this is the
Speaker 3: hard part. If it were Descendants, I wouldn't need to
Speaker 3: read the script. I'd be down right the Zombies. I
Speaker 3: would kind of want to read the script and see
Speaker 3: what the new monster is because I would know, like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like knowing the level of
Speaker 3: creativity that they do with any of the characters that
Speaker 3: I already know, like make me you know, Rapunzel's mom
Speaker 3: or something like that. Like I would totally be fine
Speaker 3: with any of that, but with the Zombies. It's like you,
Speaker 3: you don't know what you're gonna play. Every monster comes
Speaker 3: and they're all awesome. But that would make me a
Speaker 3: little bit more nervous. So I think I might go
Speaker 3: with I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't
Speaker 1: because I would love the Zombies I think so bad.
Speaker 3: I want to Paul so bad. But I want to
Speaker 3: work with Kenny so bad. Both of the franchises are
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 2: The I mean, I don't know, I don't I'm leaning
Speaker 2: towards the Zober.
Speaker 3: The chance of miss like missing a chance to work
Speaker 3: with Paul Owen again. I just can't see myself ever
Speaker 3: doing that. I know this would be a really tough one.
Speaker 1: Well, then we're just gonna have to be.
Speaker 4: I would need somebody else to make the decision for me.
Speaker 1: I think we're just gonna have to be in both.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Yes.
Speaker 2: Over in Evie's room, Doug is offended that he wasn't
Speaker 2: invited camping, and he's nervous that she went with another guy.
Speaker 2: To calm his suspicion, she tells him all about Ben
Speaker 2: being kidnapped and kisses him on the cheek and now
Speaker 2: they're off to work on Mal's alterations. Chad, once again
Speaker 2: unlawfully hanging out in Carlos's room, gets a call from
Speaker 2: his ex Audrey, and leaves on a six hour drive
Speaker 2: to help with a flat tire. This guy was a
Speaker 2: simp and none of this needed to be in the movie.
Speaker 2: The entire Chad storyline had no point. It is a
Speaker 2: useless storyline. Cut that down and get closer to our
Speaker 2: time because it didn't pay off.
Speaker 3: It wasn't funny, Sabrina seas. There was no reason, none,
Speaker 3: except for it was kind of funny that he He
Speaker 3: definitely played a huge part on this three D machine
Speaker 3: thing that he had, so you really got the sense
Speaker 3: that that was going to obviously be used.
Speaker 1: Do it once? Yeah, you know, just like the four
Speaker 1: times they cut to this guy. I know, no payoff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's easy to cut it. Cut that story and it might.
Speaker 3: Have been that might have taken us down to good
Speaker 3: like twelve minutes over.
Speaker 2: Yes, and again it's a terrible thing to say to
Speaker 2: cut out an actress performance because he wasn't bad. No,
Speaker 2: and you don't want to say you need to fire
Speaker 2: that guy, not by any stretch but it's just if
Speaker 2: you're gonna have him in the movie and you're gonna
Speaker 2: waste time having him in the movie, then have it
Speaker 2: mean something. Yeah, because the storyline there's he was literally
Speaker 2: just there.
Speaker 4: He He would.
Speaker 3: Have been a great character for somebody who to be
Speaker 3: like I want to go to the aisle as well,
Speaker 3: like I he finds like a new girlfriend, he like
Speaker 3: tagged along, found like a.
Speaker 1: New states a villain.
Speaker 4: It's a villain. Like we haven't done that, we haven't
Speaker 4: had someone like.
Speaker 1: Leave or on with you and go the other way. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like something.
Speaker 4: That could have been something that would have made it
Speaker 4: feel a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Maybe that happens in the next one. We don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but maybe they're setting it up because they didn't
Speaker 2: do any anything with this one. But anyway, it is
Speaker 2: now the night of the Cotillion. Evie is on the
Speaker 2: Step and Repeat and wearing Dizzy's jewelry, praising her to
Speaker 2: the reporters. Jane also introduces her date Carlos to her mom.
Speaker 2: The fairy godmother mal finally arrives at Miss pomp and Circumstance.
Speaker 2: It's a little edgier of a dress that fits her
Speaker 2: personally much much better King Ben than enters and he's
Speaker 2: followed by, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, it's uma, what the f yes? And I
Speaker 1: was like what.
Speaker 2: I kind of knew what was happening, but I was
Speaker 2: still like, what is going on? Kids must have been like, yeah.
Speaker 3: They've must have lost their goddamn lines when they watched
Speaker 3: the premiere of this, like I mean, and it was
Speaker 3: played so well too, so well by all of the responses,
Speaker 3: and like you can see in Dove Cameron's eyes as
Speaker 3: an actor, the choices she made, you can see it
Speaker 3: in her eyes of this trying to put the pieces together.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was such a good scene for her,
Speaker 3: for sure. And the only thing I needed was a
Speaker 3: little bit more clarity of what kind of spell because
Speaker 3: she had like a necklace and I'm like, oh, are
Speaker 3: we doing like sort of a spin off of Ursula
Speaker 3: who has like her voice in the shell?
Speaker 1: Like is that it?
Speaker 3: And it kind of sparkled this starts to get it's
Speaker 3: to me. This is when I'm starting to get a
Speaker 3: little fuzzy of where the intentions are and I.
Speaker 4: Needed a little bit more detailed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was it a potion? Was something? Yeah?
Speaker 4: We get him under the trance.
Speaker 2: It was like glass eyed, and like he looked like
Speaker 2: he was a little under a trance. It was like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I knew instantly what it was. But if
Speaker 2: I'm twelve or thirty, or you know, eleven or twelve,
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: Why is he with her now? He couldn't have fallen
Speaker 1: in love. I imagine it would have been crazy. I
Speaker 1: will all by myself what it was.
Speaker 3: Like in order to break the spell the way that
Speaker 3: keep okay, keep going, because it's just it's starting to
Speaker 3: get fuzzy to me and I'm like, wait a minute, how.
Speaker 4: Does this happen?
Speaker 2: So Ben looks very taken by her and helps the
Speaker 2: villain down the stairs. He kisses her hand and we
Speaker 2: now see that she's wearing his ring. Mal has been ditched.
Speaker 2: Ben admits something happened on the island. He fell in love,
Speaker 2: and so did Uma. It is scandalous, but Uma says
Speaker 2: she was able to sneak through the portal and swim
Speaker 2: over and that this is true love.
Speaker 1: And with that, the new couple takes the.
Speaker 2: Floor for their first dance, both sporting big smiles, but
Speaker 2: even his parents are disturbed. Jane demands that Ben's gift
Speaker 2: for Mal be revealed and it's a huge stained glass
Speaker 2: mural that we heard about earlier. It's of him and Mal,
Speaker 2: and Mal looks like her true villain self, not the
Speaker 2: Stepford Wives persona she took on to blend in. Apparently
Speaker 2: that's how he sees and loves her. Ben is magnetized
Speaker 2: by it, but Uma is furious. She demands to be
Speaker 2: covered up and asks for her gift from Ben, the
Speaker 2: decision to bring down the barrier once and for all.
Speaker 2: And this is the behavior that lets malan Evy know
Speaker 2: Uma got the spell book. She has been under control. Mal,
Speaker 2: in a last ditch effort, tries to talk some sense
Speaker 2: into Ben. She explained she never said I love you
Speaker 2: because she never felt good enough for him, but now
Speaker 2: she knows he loves the real her. Uma tries to
Speaker 2: steal back his attention, but Mal says she loves him,
Speaker 2: and then they embrace. A true love's kiss knocks him
Speaker 2: out of the spell. So that's another nice little Disney moment.
Speaker 4: It was, britt, what did you think about the kiss?
Speaker 2: I thought it was a night. I thought it was
Speaker 2: right in between a peck and a makeout. It was
Speaker 2: exactly where it's supposed to be. For the first time,
Speaker 2: you say I love you when you're seventeen or whatever.
Speaker 2: And the idea that, once again, in pure Disney fashion,
Speaker 2: true Love's kiss breaks.
Speaker 1: The spell is wonderful.
Speaker 2: And I love how they cut to ev who just
Speaker 2: says true loves kiss works every time.
Speaker 3: Great Sophia Carson is such a great actor. Oh they're
Speaker 3: just that little line. I'm like, God, she's just so
Speaker 3: deemp cute.
Speaker 1: Oh great. So Uma makes a run for it.
Speaker 2: She's gonna jump off the ship, but just before she
Speaker 2: dives into the water, Mao tries to tell her she's
Speaker 2: more than just a villain. She can stay in or
Speaker 2: done if she wants to. Then, as her necklace starts
Speaker 2: to glow, she turns and jumps into the ocean. On landing,
Speaker 2: she creates a large whirlpool, completely splashing everyone and emerging
Speaker 2: from the deep as a huge octopus monster. As the
Speaker 2: tentacles violently slapped the side of the boat, Malo's eyes
Speaker 2: turned green once again, and this time she turns into
Speaker 2: a fire breathing dragon.
Speaker 1: And this is where I'm like.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I get it, and I like it, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't look good.
Speaker 3: No, I will say, this dragon looks much better than
Speaker 3: Last Dragon.
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 2: First of all, you're talking about the movie The Last Dragon,
Speaker 2: which is one of the greatest nineteen eighties.
Speaker 3: I'm saying the Last Descendance movie, that Dragon. This Dragon
Speaker 3: is much better.
Speaker 1: Yes, but the problem is if you're you can't do big.
Speaker 2: Spectacle things like this on the cheap because then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden it just looks cheap and you're cutting
Speaker 2: from these these not very well rendered creatures to then
Speaker 2: the obvious running back and forth on the boat like
Speaker 2: it like they're not like clearly they're not being moved.
Speaker 2: It's just everyone Gilligan's Island and going this side and
Speaker 2: then and so the combination.
Speaker 4: Why are we so scared of water?
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I know, what is the thing
Speaker 3: with the like she's just slapping water at.
Speaker 1: Them and everyone?
Speaker 4: Why is that such a big deal?
Speaker 3: I'm I mean, obviously, yes, if I'm in an outfit,
Speaker 3: if I'm at a wedding and I have done all
Speaker 3: the things to be at this wedding and looking really great,
Speaker 3: someone starts slapping me with water, I'm gonna be pissed,
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna be like I know.
Speaker 1: So it's in the running back of the combiny.
Speaker 2: It was the combination of the bad CG effects and
Speaker 2: then the running back and forth, and then it gets
Speaker 2: into this next part which I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: But first of all, she doesn't even look that big
Speaker 3: compared to the boat either.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yes, but she looks just like she like
Speaker 3: the camera's close to her and the boat's just the
Speaker 3: bit away.
Speaker 4: Like if I took a picture, if I had Jordan
Speaker 4: take a picture.
Speaker 1: Of me on the beach.
Speaker 3: With the cruise boat, the Disney cruise boat that I'd
Speaker 3: love to go on, hit me, hit me up, Disney,
Speaker 3: it would be like.
Speaker 4: That, Like that's what it looked like.
Speaker 3: It looked like the cruise boat was just a little
Speaker 3: bit farther away. It wasn't like she is actually giant.
Speaker 3: So it was and I just went, oh no, like
Speaker 3: we're like, oh, I'm like loving this, And now I've
Speaker 3: got something that I don't know if I'm gonna get past.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you at all. So so and
Speaker 1: here's the other thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Dragon Male takes the skies to fight Octopus Uma.
Speaker 2: It's fire versus water, and the boat is moving back
Speaker 2: and forth, which is obviously not just the people are
Speaker 2: moving back and forth pinball between the two monsters, making
Speaker 2: a lot of the passengers at least appear as if
Speaker 2: they're sick. And now this is where again I was like, really,
Speaker 2: and now Ben is seen.
Speaker 1: Enough, so he roars as if he's beast because his
Speaker 1: dad is Beast from Beauty Mesa.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, oh, okay, he's going to transform
Speaker 2: into something and we're going to see him in another
Speaker 2: form to show that he's also part monster, just like now,
Speaker 2: like they're perfect for you.
Speaker 3: Like his dad, like he gets that, he exactly, You're
Speaker 3: going to come see his dad.
Speaker 1: Yes, Dragon and Beast together like taking on umah.
Speaker 2: And I'm like okay this and then he just jumps
Speaker 2: into the water and starts treading water and it's like
Speaker 2: hey stop, And.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what the just happened?
Speaker 3: First of all, this is what I'm gonna bring back
Speaker 3: the Killer Well, I literally put in my subritases. We're
Speaker 3: just gonna have to jump to it because it's just
Speaker 3: so okay right now.
Speaker 4: I was waiting for like a meg.
Speaker 3: To come out of note Like now, I mean, why
Speaker 3: don't we just do the trifecta of.
Speaker 1: Like it's like, yeah, I conversation we've talked.
Speaker 3: About ocean is not my thing. I don't like to
Speaker 3: be in the ocean by myself. I'm so scared of sharks.
Speaker 3: That's just not my jam.
Speaker 4: So first of all, it's completely black.
Speaker 3: We've got a giant octopus and a dragon that like
Speaker 3: just my anxiety was like why would you ever do that?
Speaker 2: Like that?
Speaker 3: Are you now the meg who we haven't even seen
Speaker 3: since now in the movie is about to come.
Speaker 4: And get all of you at the same time.
Speaker 2: That's what's gonna You're just adding a shark in your mind.
Speaker 3: I'm adding, I don't even know what there's no Disney
Speaker 3: movie where that comes from. But like it just makes
Speaker 3: sense because you're in blackwater and that is never a
Speaker 3: place to jump into.
Speaker 1: I just I just didn't get it. He roars, he
Speaker 1: jumps into the water.
Speaker 2: And then he just sits between them and treads water
Speaker 2: and says stop where It's like, so now you've just
Speaker 2: given Now you're just a hostage if if Uma decides
Speaker 2: to get and you've just made it worse if she
Speaker 2: decides to attack. So I didn't understand, Like, yeah, like
Speaker 2: what did you just do. So, yeah, there's a meg
Speaker 2: down exactly, and in Sabrina's mind, you're also being surrounded
Speaker 2: by sharks. So yeah, he just jumps in the water
Speaker 2: with the girls to just tell them to stop fighting.
Speaker 2: They need to respect each other and be brave enough
Speaker 2: to be friends. He promises Uma that he'll make the
Speaker 2: conditions on the island better, but instead of trusting him,
Speaker 2: she hands him the ring with her tentacle tip and
Speaker 2: then swims away. Ben reboards the ship to applause because
Speaker 2: he didn't drown because he I don't know, but mal
Speaker 2: reappears smiling. No one even says, hey, you were a dragon?
Speaker 2: How crazy is that?
Speaker 1: Nope, didn't even bring that up in any way, shape.
Speaker 2: Or for it.
Speaker 3: Well, they had they had one. They had one moment
Speaker 3: with Evie that it was.
Speaker 1: She's I didn't even know, I know I could do that.
Speaker 1: She said to me either either, and then puts out
Speaker 1: her dress. Very cute. But no one else was like, hey,
Speaker 1: so you're a dragon. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess maybe they're not that surprised because at the
Speaker 3: last royal event they had her mom was also one.
Speaker 4: Right, maybe they're just like so phased, like I don't know.
Speaker 2: But also as rules guy, and you need rules for everything.
Speaker 2: Why is changing into a dragon change her outfit?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Well, the outfits changed randomly.
Speaker 3: It changed in the There are outfits randomly changed in
Speaker 3: the EV and Mal song too.
Speaker 4: They just randomly were in like different outfhas.
Speaker 2: Well that makes sense though. They're like, hey, we're friends,
Speaker 2: We're going to be friends forever. Let's go to the
Speaker 2: closet and change and sing a song, whereas this one
Speaker 2: is like, hey, I'm sorry, Yes that makes.
Speaker 4: Is that what you think?
Speaker 1: Yes, that.
Speaker 4: Makes sense, that's what you think.
Speaker 2: Like look at each other, like, hey, before we sing
Speaker 2: a song real quick about how close we are, Let's
Speaker 2: just go and change real quick. Isn't that a normal
Speaker 2: girls thing? You and your friends before you held hands
Speaker 2: in song songs about how you're going to be together forever.
Speaker 2: Didn't stop for a wardrobe change. Come on, suprime.
Speaker 4: No, no, well no I disagree.
Speaker 1: I think you did. I think you did.
Speaker 2: And then you had a pillow fight and talked about boys.
Speaker 2: That's what girls do.
Speaker 1: It's a mountain.
Speaker 2: Sorry, am I thinking about girls from the fifties that
Speaker 2: never exist?
Speaker 4: I know, I'm like, what aver that never happened?
Speaker 2: In the history of the world. But I was like,
Speaker 2: why is seriously yelling at the screen? Why did becoming
Speaker 2: a dragon changer?
Speaker 1: Dress?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yes, so reboards. Everybody's clapping. Mal reappears smiling.
Speaker 2: No one says you were a dragon or anything, and
Speaker 2: she didn't even know she could do that, but everyone
Speaker 2: treats it like it's no big deal. The ceremony starts
Speaker 2: all over now with less monster octopuses or octopi. Actually
Speaker 2: it's octopuses by the way, and Evie has a request.
Speaker 2: She wants to reach back to the island to help Dizzy.
Speaker 2: Benci's no problem with that, but Evie isn't done. There's
Speaker 2: actually a lot of kids on the island who would
Speaker 2: love oradon and they deserve a chance. So she promises
Speaker 2: him a list of names, and he says it'll make
Speaker 2: it happen. Also a brilliant way to bring in new
Speaker 2: characters that we're going to see in future movies.
Speaker 1: And the boat captain found mel spellbook.
Speaker 2: Instead of hanging on to it all this time, she
Speaker 2: decides to give it to the fairy Godmother to keep
Speaker 2: in the museum forever, retiring her devious abilities, and with
Speaker 2: that we got our final song You and Me, a
Speaker 2: tale of bold and brave love not just between Mel
Speaker 2: and Ben, but now all of our couples, even Lonnie.
Speaker 1: And Jay seem to be hitting it off.
Speaker 2: So it's a big number everyone dancing on a water
Speaker 2: filled boat and watching fireworks as an EDMDJ plays what
Speaker 2: do we think.
Speaker 1: Of this big ending?
Speaker 2: Did you like the big water splashing and Coreata.
Speaker 4: Viewing so much of it because I'm like, oh, Will
Speaker 4: getting his water ditch.
Speaker 2: I love when they dance in water for no reason,
Speaker 2: step up two the streets.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I'm saying exactly. I loved it.
Speaker 3: I thought it was like a great Kenny Ortega finale
Speaker 3: of amazing dancers visual you know, visuals with the water,
Speaker 3: the way that they I mean, the partner work that
Speaker 3: they did it was it was a very high end
Speaker 3: technique kind of routine, like what the dancers were doing
Speaker 3: were hard, what they were doing it and dancing in
Speaker 3: water is not easy and not busting yours all the time, like.
Speaker 1: Well this is where I saw? Was it? Cameron? At
Speaker 1: one point he jumps jumps from like a stare.
Speaker 4: Or step like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then lands in a split. It was like
Speaker 1: all in water. It was like, oh my god, yes.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they did such fun stuff. This
Speaker 3: was like a really fun way to end the movie.
Speaker 3: And I started to go ahead and just go, you
Speaker 3: know what I can get over. I guess I can
Speaker 3: get over ursula be normal sized next to the boat,
Speaker 3: just farther away, like I could get over that.
Speaker 1: And it was great.
Speaker 4: I thought it was good.
Speaker 3: It wasn't my favorite song again, I mean, we started
Speaker 3: off with my favorite song. What's my Name I think
Speaker 3: is the name of it. That's just so good.
Speaker 1: So the first one is We're.
Speaker 4: Right sorry we hit it in the beginning.
Speaker 3: I want the first couple, first couple of songs really
Speaker 3: sunk into me, set the tone. But it was great,
Speaker 3: a great song.
Speaker 1: I saw a couple things.
Speaker 2: First of all, I thought that the spacing of the
Speaker 2: musical numbers in this movie was strange. There was some
Speaker 2: big gaps in between there. There'd be one or two
Speaker 2: right in a row, and then there'd be giant gaps
Speaker 2: where until there was another one.
Speaker 1: So I thought.
Speaker 3: That that goes along with we're used to watching these
Speaker 3: musicals round that ninety minute mark.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they got two.
Speaker 4: Close to a two hour movie.
Speaker 3: That you're that that tempo, it's like the tempo of
Speaker 3: of it, you know, within that space scene that's gonna
Speaker 3: be different. So I think that's where it lies. But
Speaker 3: we you know, there's definitely some things that would have
Speaker 3: been totally fine to leave out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other thing I noticed about this Final Dance is
Speaker 2: there was a lot of very wide shots which I liked,
Speaker 2: that were very reminiscent to me of like original West
Speaker 2: Side Story, where you get kind of these higher up,
Speaker 2: wider shots where you're really seeing like they're basically there
Speaker 2: are times, especially Evie, they're looking right at the camera. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like they're they're part of a big dance company
Speaker 2: and you're seeing the entire thing going, and then you're
Speaker 2: cutting in for individual moves and individual shots. But they
Speaker 2: had some of the big, the big kind of old
Speaker 2: school music.
Speaker 4: Halls, and I loved it.
Speaker 3: I loved it for this movie specifically because that's how
Speaker 3: we ended the first movie too.
Speaker 4: This is what I this is.
Speaker 1: What I big numbers. It's always how you end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And but same thing with those big shots, you'd
Speaker 3: get the really cool, like whatever the set is, you know,
Speaker 3: you get a vibe of like just a big crazy energy,
Speaker 3: and we did it the same same way the first
Speaker 3: movie was so I love that again.
Speaker 4: We're getting that again.
Speaker 1: You know me too in the second movie, me too.
Speaker 1: I thought it was great, but we're not done. There's
Speaker 1: one more scene.
Speaker 2: Dizzy is in her workshop when a handful of Oredon
Speaker 2: officials enter with Ben's invite off the island to go
Speaker 2: and join the school. She gleefully accepts, which is a
Speaker 2: very happy moment, but on a less happy ending. We
Speaker 2: get one last look at the ocean and then uma
Speaker 2: octopus monster emerges. She looks directly at the camera and
Speaker 2: devilishly asked the audience if they really thought that was
Speaker 2: the end of the story.
Speaker 1: It obviously isn't.
Speaker 2: That's our movie, but a great tease for Descendants three
Speaker 2: or twa again in France, in France where this is
Speaker 2: big descend. So it's time for our real reviews, and
Speaker 2: I think this week I have the joy of the
Speaker 2: one star review. This is from Devin L. I thought
Speaker 2: this movie was inappropriate for Disney Studios. I love the
Speaker 2: movie that there was too much physical contact for my
Speaker 2: children to watch. What what does that mean? Just straight
Speaker 2: up physical con nobody's made. There's one kiss there might
Speaker 2: be some hugging. Nope, there's nobody lying down, grinding on anybody,
Speaker 2: like what what not even.
Speaker 4: A little bit? I mean, she better not. What was
Speaker 4: our last movie?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Wish upon a Star.
Speaker 4: I cannot be watching Star because gonna like this six scenes. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this isn't even like PG. Thirteen.
Speaker 1: This is so g rated, perfect, perfect amount. It was.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a problem with that. Our our producer Lisa
Speaker 1: is right.
Speaker 2: You just wrote Harry, Harry the hook singing he'd eliminate
Speaker 2: and debilitate someone. Didn't upset her more than quote unquote touching. Yes,
Speaker 2: that is absolutely true. That's always the way it is.
Speaker 2: So you have the five star this week, and.
Speaker 3: This seems like the review I would do. All right,
Speaker 3: it is by bizar h. This is the best movie.
Speaker 3: I wish I was in this movie.
Speaker 4: Agreed.
Speaker 3: At least some people got a chance to be in
Speaker 3: this movie. I'm a nine year old girl. I just
Speaker 3: love this movie. This was incredible. I listened to every song.
Speaker 3: Thanks for all your hard work.
Speaker 4: Goodbye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of says it. Thanks. That's a very
Speaker 1: as student from a nine year old.
Speaker 2: And now we come, of course, to Sabrina's favorite portion
Speaker 2: of program. This is our feature game of the week,
Speaker 2: and this one we have now, Sabrina, I hope you
Speaker 2: kill this because I this one's called obscure. Disney's not
Speaker 2: every character for the world's most popular movie studio is
Speaker 2: as popular as Mickey Haha or Minnie or Goofy.
Speaker 1: Some are a little more obscure.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get the description of an off the Beaten
Speaker 2: Path Disney character, and we have to guess who they're
Speaker 2: talking about. Three out of five win. I think it's
Speaker 2: the name of some obscure one. Do we have producer
Speaker 2: Jensen today or do we have somebody else with us today?
Speaker 4: We have MICHAELA.
Speaker 1: Oh, Mikayla's with us today. At least when we lose.
Speaker 2: It'll be in a much softer, nicer tone than when
Speaker 2: producer Jensen joins us. Okay, so number one, this is
Speaker 2: Lady and the Tramp's son from the hardly known sequel
Speaker 2: to Lady in the Tramp. Is it a pup b
Speaker 2: spot Ce, Scamp or d Buster?
Speaker 1: What do you got, Sabrina, Oh.
Speaker 4: I think it's Scamp.
Speaker 1: I'm going to agree. I'm going to agree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't know either, but I'm gonna say it's.
Speaker 4: A scam, or I say I think I'll go scam.
Speaker 4: You're right, it is yes.
Speaker 1: One for us. Okay.
Speaker 2: Number two, This tiny crook sells pirated DVDs of other
Speaker 2: Disney movies in a z Utopia cameo. There's a whole
Speaker 2: lot of words there I don't understand in a row.
Speaker 2: Is it a Duke Weasleton, B, Captain, cheapskate, ce, Prince,
Speaker 2: Priceless or.
Speaker 4: D Sneaky beat Sneaky Pete.
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer, but it's such an awesome name.
Speaker 2: Part of me hopes it's right, and part of me
Speaker 2: hopes producer Jensen just made it up. But I want
Speaker 2: to go with Duke Weaseleton just because it's an awesome name.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say a Duke Weaselton. You're right. Well,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I was totally making up because Sneaky.
Speaker 4: Pet just got into this new this movie is Utopia.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's good. I've never seen it. Duke Weaselton, what
Speaker 1: a great name. Number three.
Speaker 2: This purple dragon is the cult favorite mascot for Epcot Orlando.
Speaker 2: Is it a tally Wag, B Palette, C friendly or
Speaker 2: D figment?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'll go a D figment.
Speaker 2: I guess it is D figment, figment because it's the
Speaker 2: figment of your imagination, the little purple dragon.
Speaker 1: I still have my figment? Am I?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Purple? Wait?
Speaker 4: Where is it?
Speaker 2: It was the he was the mascot of all of
Speaker 2: Epcot Center was figment, which is this tiny little purple
Speaker 2: dragon because he's supposed to be a figment of everybody's imagination. Okay,
Speaker 2: and so that I am somehow three for three people
Speaker 2: they know?
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't know how. That is number four?
Speaker 2: Another thief, this bumbling moron adopts Oliver before Jenny comes
Speaker 2: along in Oliver and Company. Yi is a shen Zi
Speaker 2: b Amos, ce Fagan or d tell your ride.
Speaker 1: I'll go first this time. I won't make you pick
Speaker 1: every time.
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer, but I'm gonna guess, b Amos,
Speaker 2: it's my guess.
Speaker 3: I actually think I want to go with that one too, Okay, Amos, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: you're wrong.
Speaker 2: It is C.
Speaker 1: Hagan. Okay, Hagan, I have not seen that.
Speaker 2: I already won, because three out of five this is
Speaker 2: all just this is all this the joy trying to
Speaker 2: help me. Number five these hired henchmen try and kidnap
Speaker 2: the Dalmatian puppies for Corella in one hundred and one Dalmatians?
Speaker 2: Is it a Jose and Azzi, b Adonis and Randy,
Speaker 2: See Hugh and mung Or, D Jasper and Horace.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I haven't seen it since I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna say, see Hugh and mung.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do D Jasper and Horace. You're correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we both won. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See when Jensen's not here, good vibes happen. And thank you,
Speaker 2: mkayl I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Can we do some Sabrina sease?
Speaker 2: We can?
Speaker 3: It starts right at the top when we come out
Speaker 3: of Mouth's daydream, when the when the the reporter is
Speaker 3: asking her all these like quick questions, and then the
Speaker 3: last one is is.
Speaker 4: Your mother still a lizard?
Speaker 1: Is your mother still a lizard?
Speaker 3: I had a lot to say about the talking dog,
Speaker 3: but we've already gone through that, so we will move on.
Speaker 4: The like the chillen like a villain. I felt was again.
Speaker 3: We talked a little bit, but the old school Kenny
Speaker 3: Ortega just getting into it gave me a lot of
Speaker 3: thriller esque vibes within their like movement, and I loved it. Yes,
Speaker 3: it did like the shoulders they like lean to the
Speaker 3: side like the There was a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4: That they did which was awesome. We didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3: I thought you would absolutely hit this is our crown
Speaker 3: got an upgrade. I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but we didn't like it. Right, It was.
Speaker 3: Like of twenty five cent crown that you would get
Speaker 3: from like a claw machine. It was so it was
Speaker 3: so awful. The crown got an upgrade. However, did it
Speaker 3: seem to have been fitted to our Ben character because
Speaker 3: it didn't write shiny head and this giant crown that
Speaker 3: like had so much space around it. So although it
Speaker 3: got a it got a great upgrade. It looked ginormous
Speaker 3: on his head. Uh did you notice another Easter egg?
Speaker 3: We didn't mention this one, but it was a remake
Speaker 3: of kiss the Girl when they were doing the waltz
Speaker 3: him much.
Speaker 1: I did see that there was another one. There was
Speaker 1: kissing the girl. There was something else that was great.
Speaker 3: Yes, there was another one. I don't think I wrote
Speaker 3: it down.
Speaker 1: Though there was something else. We saw another like Easter egg.
Speaker 4: Yes, so I did love that.
Speaker 3: That was such a great again if you're a Disney
Speaker 3: fanatic and you got to see it. And then we
Speaker 3: literally went through all of my spiencies. This movie was
Speaker 3: just so good. There was just so much to say,
Speaker 3: so like, I can't I couldn't, Like I literally all
Speaker 3: everything that.
Speaker 4: We went through.
Speaker 1: You couldn't criticize it. I know.
Speaker 3: It was just it's like we already talked about it.
Speaker 3: I couldn't hold myself back and do it. But the
Speaker 3: last thing was what did what did you This is
Speaker 3: more of a question to you, what did you think
Speaker 3: about the scene where they all sit down and have
Speaker 3: this powow the conversation and he's like, no, yes, what
Speaker 3: did you think about? Was actually said to me. It
Speaker 3: was kind of like, why are they acting like Ben's
Speaker 3: been this bad guy and he can't see who you are.
Speaker 4: It's like more so like.
Speaker 3: No, mal, why don't you like open your eyes here
Speaker 3: and see that this guy's a great guy. He definitely
Speaker 3: loves you, And I think this is a you thing.
Speaker 3: I don't think this is a Hymn thing.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of times where he was also
Speaker 2: apologizing for stuff that he didn't do right.
Speaker 3: And that that was like that, I feel like that
Speaker 3: was a miss like a point missed on what the
Speaker 3: like because we get there at the end, she said
Speaker 3: the reason why I didn't tell you I loved you
Speaker 3: was because of me, Like that was a thing. Her
Speaker 3: advice from her friends wasn't really necessarily like that. It
Speaker 3: was like, look, if he doesn't like you for where
Speaker 3: you are, homie could kick rocks, like.
Speaker 1: Let's just get loved with good advice from your friends.
Speaker 1: But to.
Speaker 3: Exactly, he wasn't treating her bad ever, not once he
Speaker 3: went all the way over to a place where he
Speaker 3: should not have been.
Speaker 1: To apologize for something he didn't do.
Speaker 3: To apologize for something he didn't do, he got captured,
Speaker 3: then came back, and then like still you're upset, Like
Speaker 3: what does this guy gotta do? I mean, he gave
Speaker 3: you a purple moped. You clearly forget everything about all
Speaker 3: the promises with the picnics like mal come on.
Speaker 4: As a friend, but I think this is a you know.
Speaker 1: It doesn't it?
Speaker 2: Also, though it's a little kind of stereotypical that she
Speaker 2: kind of realizes how much she's in love with him
Speaker 2: when she sees him with another woman.
Speaker 3: Yes, but sometimes that's what it takes.
Speaker 2: But it's like it is it or is it just like, well,
Speaker 2: now I want him because somebody else does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I do think that she showed up ready
Speaker 3: to like have that now that she's comfortable, she's ready
Speaker 3: to be in her own skin, she's ready to do that.
Speaker 4: So she showed up. And then yes, I mean they
Speaker 4: hit it over the head with the with the new thing.
Speaker 3: But you know, it is more so like this friendship
Speaker 3: talk because I think again, like I think looking at
Speaker 3: what I want my kids to see and Disney Channel
Speaker 3: is the best way to like have these like kind
Speaker 3: of conversations of how to interact with your friends. And
Speaker 3: to me, I'm like, we needed to be a little
Speaker 3: bit harshrn Mel. We need to see that this is
Speaker 3: a hurt issue. This is not ben This is you girl,
Speaker 3: this is you, I love you.
Speaker 1: This is this is a mal problem. This is a problem.
Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you, Sabrina. And now of course it
Speaker 2: is time that we rate our lovely film.
Speaker 1: And I know what are we.
Speaker 4: Going to how what is it?
Speaker 2: First of all, let's decide this week to go one
Speaker 2: to ten, okay, and we'll make one the worst okay,
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 1: So our option this week is it.
Speaker 2: One to ten fields to play at a cotillion. One
Speaker 2: to ten nerdy assistant love interests. One to ten very
Speaker 2: poorly hidden mopeds, fake hooks, to be like your dad,
Speaker 2: goth high schoolers. One to ten spray painted masterpieces, reasonable island,
Speaker 2: political and economical beliefs.
Speaker 1: One to ten female fencers.
Speaker 2: One to ten useless storylines for guys named Chad, or
Speaker 2: one to ten fire breathing dragons no big deal, which
Speaker 2: uh nbdd.
Speaker 3: I think I want to go with the useless story
Speaker 3: for guys' Chad because it's just it was really.
Speaker 4: I kept and I like his character.
Speaker 3: Hopefully in the future we're gonna see his character is
Speaker 3: gonna develop.
Speaker 4: That's the only thing I.
Speaker 2: Can Your idea to Kim going to the island and
Speaker 2: then that squeaky clean Chad guy going and living on
Speaker 2: the island and getting more dirty.
Speaker 1: That's that's totally what you gotta do with the character.
Speaker 3: That's a great I love it, But so we're gonna
Speaker 3: go if you don't mind, we're gonna go with that.
Speaker 2: I don't mind at all, and I think I rated
Speaker 2: first last time, So it is your turn to rate
Speaker 2: the film. What how many useless storylines for guys named
Speaker 2: Chad do you give this film?
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm in love with this franchise. I think
Speaker 3: this is all things Disney needs on the channel, on
Speaker 3: Disney Plus, on ABC. I'm down with it being on
Speaker 3: I'm down with it being across every single platform out there.
Speaker 3: I am a Disney fanatic. I love that I go
Speaker 3: to Disneyland just to find Easter eggs sometimes, Like I
Speaker 3: really love this kind of uh proud Disney girld. I
Speaker 3: am in a Disney adult and I think the way
Speaker 3: they are so again all of the stuff that we
Speaker 3: got from Ursula and all that. Yeah, it was weird
Speaker 3: to see fish and chips, but like whatever, Like it's
Speaker 3: cute that she has like a you know, her own restaurant.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: I the only thing I feel like was hard for
Speaker 3: me was that extra amount of time over the ninety minutes.
Speaker 3: I think that if those small little things had been
Speaker 3: just tightened up and taken out, it would have been
Speaker 3: a little bit of a better watch for me. Because
Speaker 3: now I am used to I am we are doing
Speaker 3: these ninety minute movies over and over and over again,
Speaker 3: and it's like when it's not that it's hard. And
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to watch a feature film. I was
Speaker 3: going to watch a Disney dcom. So that's the only
Speaker 3: thing that was like a hard knock for me. Other
Speaker 3: than that, I'm giving this a nine. Uh useless storylines
Speaker 3: for guys name Chad nine.
Speaker 1: A nine. That's a solid nine. That's a good, solid nine.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: That's a good score. I agree with you totally. I
Speaker 2: think it's too long a little bit. It's a wonderful franchise.
Speaker 2: It is so Disney. It's bright, it's colorful.
Speaker 1: The music is good, the acting is good, the dancing
Speaker 1: is good. I'm engaged with the characters. I like the
Speaker 1: world they've built.
Speaker 2: Some of the rules get a little muddled, but I
Speaker 2: like the world that they built. That being said, I
Speaker 2: had two problems with this film. The first is the length.
Speaker 2: It was too long. They could have cut a bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff. It's not even a Tenson span stuff. It's
Speaker 2: just keep it moving. It's a Disney Channel movie.
Speaker 1: Keep it moving.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 2: Number two the problem I had is the special effects
Speaker 2: at the end were not very special. And because of
Speaker 2: those two, I am going to knock it down half
Speaker 2: a point and I'm going to give it eight point five. Wowtylines,
Speaker 2: it was it had the movie tightened by fifteen minutes,
Speaker 2: and had they been able to bump up those effects
Speaker 2: just a little bit, this could easily have been a
Speaker 2: nine point five to me.
Speaker 1: This was again for it is they're great.
Speaker 4: Thing different than her turning into an octopus. That's like
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 2: I get why they're doing it, but then you gotta
Speaker 2: you gotta make it look decent. I mean, it's it
Speaker 2: when it takes you out, when you have the The
Speaker 2: dragon doesn't look very good the but I thought that I.
Speaker 4: Was given the dragon props. It was so much better
Speaker 4: than the first one. That shouldn't be that.
Speaker 2: Your baseline shouldn't be that it was better than the
Speaker 2: last one, which was awful.
Speaker 1: So it just and again we don't know.
Speaker 2: As the movies get up there, the movies are gonna
Speaker 2: start getting thirty forty fifty million dollar budgets. When that
Speaker 2: starts to happen, yeah, then you're talking a whole new world.
Speaker 1: So a whole new Oh.
Speaker 4: I've got to do one more Sabritas seas because this
Speaker 4: is a big one.
Speaker 1: Guy, see it up.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I've got to add this one in because this is
Speaker 3: a good little, uh little moment. So I Kara sung
Speaker 3: because we did talk. We didn't really talk this this one.
Speaker 3: This movie as much about the wardrobe and how phenomenal
Speaker 3: the wardrobe is. It is to me, I think this
Speaker 3: wardrobe Trump's zombies words, and it is so good.
Speaker 4: It is so cool.
Speaker 3: I wanted like every piece of wardrobe that came out
Speaker 3: for like a character or for a Halloween costume.
Speaker 4: I mean, it is so good, so good little thing
Speaker 4: with her.
Speaker 3: So my manager had seen her and watched her season
Speaker 3: she was on Project Runway, and my manager was like,
Speaker 3: she's perfect, She's got like this like costume thing. So
Speaker 3: we actually used her for our second or our last tour,
Speaker 3: and that was before The Descendants came out. And so
Speaker 3: and I know Kenny came and saw our tour and
Speaker 3: he came to kind of critique and help us, like
Speaker 3: just anything that we he thought we could tighten up
Speaker 3: and stuff. So it's interesting to know that like he
Speaker 3: whether or not this is how he got the connection
Speaker 3: or but we were her kind of first, like tiptoe,
Speaker 3: And yeah, we got to because she would be amazing
Speaker 3: to talk to because I and that tour. I would
Speaker 3: say was one of my favorite costumes that we wore
Speaker 3: while we were on tour.
Speaker 4: She was so great, So.
Speaker 3: That was like a little thing that I'm in. My
Speaker 3: manager Melissa messaged me a couple of nights going away,
Speaker 3: do you remember her? And I was like, yeah, because
Speaker 3: she's the one that was on she.
Speaker 4: Did your guys tour. I'm like, no way, these are
Speaker 4: the best.
Speaker 3: Truly, I think at this point the best costumes we've seen.
Speaker 1: Disagree Channel so fun, I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: So great. So then we're getting let's start to get
Speaker 2: Oh wait, producer Lisa saying, did we mention who the
Speaker 2: voice of Ursula was?
Speaker 1: Who was the voice of Ursula?
Speaker 7: It was?
Speaker 1: Who it was? I didn't know that at all. Whoopi Goldberg.
Speaker 1: I did not know that Whoopyberg to be added? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you everybody so much for joining us on
Speaker 2: what was a very fun episode of very fun week,
Speaker 2: very fun movie of magical rewind Let's hope we keep
Speaker 2: it going next week because we got a cool one.
Speaker 2: We hope we're back with the hardwood for a basketball movie.
Speaker 1: But this one is quite the twist. It's a Jewish
Speaker 1: hoops movie.
Speaker 2: Set during Hanukkah. This is two thousand and threes Full
Speaker 2: Court Miracle. Yup, you heard me right, So go and
Speaker 2: check it out on Disney Plus and find out if
Speaker 2: this is even a real movie or not I think
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