Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencaan and Cam
Speaker 1: Ridge Edge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, so guess what. It's officially time for us
Speaker 2: to launch the twat Seat, the twat Seats, the twat Seat.
Speaker 3: Essentially, it is like watch what Happens live, but you're
Speaker 3: in the twat seat.
Speaker 2: Not quite the hot seat, not quite the hot seat.
Speaker 2: It could be worse than the hot seat. It could
Speaker 2: hot seat could be worse. It really depends on who
Speaker 2: our guest.
Speaker 3: Is, and we're starting it off with a bang because
Speaker 3: our first guest is going to be Kyle Cook from Summerhouse.
Speaker 3: I had no idea how much I was going to
Speaker 3: be obsessed with this show.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: Okay for somebody that never has watched Summerhouse, I've always
Speaker 4: heard people talk about it, and I know Kyle and
Speaker 4: I know some of the cast members just from you know,
Speaker 4: Bravo events, Bravo con stuff like that. I watched all
Speaker 4: of season eight in two days, and now I want
Speaker 4: to go back and watch from season one.
Speaker 5: So too.
Speaker 2: That's our homework.
Speaker 3: I'm hooked before we even get into discussing any little
Speaker 3: bits and pieces about this season.
Speaker 2: Who would you want to be your best friend. Oh boy,
Speaker 2: that's a tough one. Mine's Page one hundred percent Page.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely definitely Page, just so I can
Speaker 4: share outfits with her.
Speaker 2: Like, she got the cutest, cutest little style. She's so cute.
Speaker 2: She looks like Audrey Hepburn.
Speaker 3: And her confessionals are always on point, and I just
Speaker 3: love Page.
Speaker 2: I know Lindsay, and I like Lindsay as well. I'm
Speaker 2: not very happy with Lindsay this season, though.
Speaker 3: I felt like this last episode though I started to
Speaker 3: see a shift.
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely I saw a little bit of a shift.
Speaker 2: But she was a little hard on Carl.
Speaker 4: I thought, And you know, I try not to jump
Speaker 4: to conclusions because you know, it is an edited show
Speaker 4: and we don't see everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we all know what's coming. We all know
Speaker 2: what's coming.
Speaker 3: But I think this is a big situation that we
Speaker 3: are seeing here on Summer House.
Speaker 2: Is the conversations that.
Speaker 3: You need to have before you initially get married. Married.
Speaker 4: Well, I have a confession. Yeah, I dm'd Carl. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because I felt so bad for him. It's been a
Speaker 4: really long time, Teddy, since I watched a show. I
Speaker 4: think it's been since the view when I yelled at
Speaker 4: star Star Jones is her name, I can't remember, because
Speaker 4: she was talking about how pregnant women should not have
Speaker 4: special parking, and I gave her a piece of my mind.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I reached out and I told him I
Speaker 2: really really upset you.
Speaker 4: I was pregnant at the time, and I only had
Speaker 4: use of one lung because the baby.
Speaker 2: I can't remember which one it was.
Speaker 4: I think it was maybe Sidney pushing on one lung
Speaker 4: so I could literally walk to the kitchen.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm not trying to call you out, Tam,
Speaker 3: but there's no way Instagram existed when you were pregnant
Speaker 3: with any of your children.
Speaker 2: So I emailed.
Speaker 6: Start Jones.
Speaker 4: I don't know, or maybe it was my Space. I
Speaker 4: can't remember what it was. I can't remember, but I
Speaker 4: was thought, I was, I was. I was pissed off.
Speaker 2: Man, I was did you aa? Did you a? I
Speaker 2: am her? Were you like you've got mail? And you
Speaker 2: were like, hould on, let me get out my typewriter.
Speaker 2: Way Jones a piece of my mind.
Speaker 4: She never responded back, and while coming from a woman
Speaker 4: that's never had a child, had never been pregnant, how
Speaker 4: dare you say something like that?
Speaker 2: Anyways, whatever.
Speaker 4: So I was like so riled up after watching Summer House.
Speaker 4: I'm like, he got so much ship after you know,
Speaker 4: he called off the wedding on social media because you know,
Speaker 4: last year, because we didn't know, we didn't know, And
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh god, I blendy. Oh you you're lucky.
Speaker 4: You're lucky now, Like, oh my god, I feel so
Speaker 4: bad for him. It really it really looked like he
Speaker 4: was trying.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it also. I think it looked like
Speaker 2: he was trying.
Speaker 3: But I also think there's so much that goes into
Speaker 3: the relationship because they were friends for so many years
Speaker 3: that you always think, Okay, we were friends, we can
Speaker 3: work through everything. But it also the problem with being
Speaker 3: friends for so many years is you say things that
Speaker 3: you probably wouldn't say to somebody that's like your new
Speaker 3: fiance if you had just been together a year.
Speaker 2: Right right now, I have a question for you. Yes, Summerhouse,
Speaker 2: pump Rules or the Valley.
Speaker 3: Which one, okay, definitely not vander pump Rules.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: I think what I love about the Valley is also
Speaker 3: what I love about Summerhouse. I don't really feel like
Speaker 3: the majority of the people on the Valley or on
Speaker 3: Summer House are really editing themselves whatsoever. The fact that
Speaker 3: I saw naked balloon guy was my mind was blown.
Speaker 2: Like I was like, she didn't even bother. I know,
Speaker 2: neither did Danielle. She just took it right off. She
Speaker 2: took it right off.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like Ultimate Girl's Trips Slash.
Speaker 2: Well that's hope. It's not like Ultimate Girls trip Away
Speaker 2: Summer House. No, no, no, no, no, not like that.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, living in a house together
Speaker 4: like that? And what's the one you were on Big Brother?
Speaker 2: Like Big Brother? But nobody hooks up on Big Brother.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they do on the real Big Brother,
Speaker 3: I guess, but not on celebrity Big Brother.
Speaker 2: There was no even.
Speaker 3: Okay, before we bring Kyle on, and then after we
Speaker 3: have Kyle on, we're gonna just kind of anything we
Speaker 3: don't touch on with him.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna break down quick question. Who's the best movie?
Speaker 2: West or Jesse West? Clearly? I love West.
Speaker 4: I know I love West too. I think he's funny,
Speaker 4: he's quirky. But I think Jesse is just like just
Speaker 4: that wholesome boy. I think that Jess should marry Lindsey.
Speaker 2: I'm just hooking him up right now is awesome.
Speaker 3: It isn't happening, and he's not wholesome. Every episode he
Speaker 3: is on Hinge twenty four to seven, he wants.
Speaker 4: He wants to settle down. He just can't find the
Speaker 4: right one. Don't you said, Lindsay is the right one. Yes,
Speaker 4: I think she wants to get married. Okay, Carl just
Speaker 4: wasn't the guy for her. I know Lindsay off the show,
Speaker 4: very sweet, nice kind, go get her.
Speaker 2: I just Carl just wasn't the right guy. They weren't
Speaker 2: a good together.
Speaker 3: I think by anything that Jesse has said about Lindsay
Speaker 3: throughout this season, Jesse ain't the right guy either. F
Speaker 3: Mary kill Kyle, Carl and West.
Speaker 2: I hate this game. I like them all.
Speaker 3: I don't really want anyone dead, but I think I
Speaker 3: would probably well up until this upcoming episode where we
Speaker 3: see that West is apparently messaging other girls.
Speaker 2: When they showed the scenes for the rest of the
Speaker 2: season and I saw that, I was like, what do
Speaker 2: you mean, West? I thought you were like madly in love.
Speaker 2: But maybe they're.
Speaker 3: Having sex in New York, just not having sex in
Speaker 3: the Hamptons. No, he said, none, it's not happening.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: We need ask Kyle, but is he really trying? I
Speaker 3: feel like I would marry West. I think I would probably.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is gonna be awkward since we're about
Speaker 3: to bring him in, but I guess I would probably
Speaker 3: f Kyle. Okay, even though why when he talks in
Speaker 3: his baby voice about wanting to have sex, it's a
Speaker 3: little bit awkward and he's like.
Speaker 2: My being the ones at touching. You know what scares me?
Speaker 2: Is it his drunk voice sounds just like mine?
Speaker 3: That's actually frightening. Do you think he's going to have
Speaker 3: his voice on today?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you think he's going to have
Speaker 2: his mullet on today? I think it's time to release
Speaker 2: the mullet.
Speaker 3: Well, he said, and watch What Happens live that his
Speaker 3: grandma's dying wish was for him to cut his mullet,
Speaker 3: so he was going to do it at the reunion.
Speaker 2: But we don't know if the reunion has all the wishes?
Speaker 2: That's it? Are you kidding me? I just popped open
Speaker 2: a lover boy. Oh my gosh, how is it? You
Speaker 2: know what I really didn't trust.
Speaker 3: I thought all of these people in Summer House were
Speaker 3: going to be full of it because I thought this
Speaker 3: was going to taste like a white claw. But it
Speaker 3: is a delicious little favor pineapple hibiscus. It's made with love,
Speaker 3: It's got real ingredients and real people.
Speaker 2: It's ninety calories and zero grams of sugar. It's it's yummy.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much alcohol is in this because
Speaker 3: my eyes can't see well enough, but I can say
Speaker 3: that Amanda did do an amazing job. Yes, the way
Speaker 3: this aesthetically looks, and I see why these are scattered
Speaker 3: all around the house all the time. I heard the
Speaker 3: espresso martini one is really good. They didn't send me
Speaker 3: that one.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm in Big Bear and could not get them here,
Speaker 4: so I was going to have to ask them where
Speaker 4: they saw.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, Kyle did Trader season one. Yes see, I didn't.
Speaker 3: Watch season one because you weren't on it, so I
Speaker 3: don't know what to ask him about that.
Speaker 2: How far did he make it?
Speaker 6: Well, let's ask him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm here, I've arrived.
Speaker 2: We should have got mullets today to where.
Speaker 7: I know, and you guys are catching me towards the
Speaker 7: very tail end of this current mullet.
Speaker 4: Now, how long have you had the mullet?
Speaker 7: So it started to sound incredibly lame from a New
Speaker 7: Year's resolution standpoint, but it was my January first, twenty
Speaker 7: twenty two New Year's resolution to just become my alter
Speaker 7: ego because I've always will or like wigs long before
Speaker 7: Summer House. So yeah, I mean it takes a while
Speaker 7: to grow out. So I would say, right around two years, it's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a hot minute. Well time to go, right?
Speaker 2: Is your alter ego only there when you're drunk?
Speaker 5: Ah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, his name is Nitro and very much a party,
Speaker 7: usually around like July fourth. But then it became a
Speaker 7: little more mainstream.
Speaker 3: Well, yesterday I had my lover Boy delivered here, and
Speaker 3: you'll be happy to know that the guy.
Speaker 2: Who delivered it right here, he had a mullet.
Speaker 3: And not only did he have a mullet, then he
Speaker 3: gave me my astrological reading. And I was like, do
Speaker 3: you work for lover Boy or are you just a
Speaker 3: random postman? Because I didn't know how I got it.
Speaker 3: I just arrived to my house and he was like, no,
Speaker 3: I don't, but I love it, and I have to
Speaker 3: say so do I I thought for a second that
Speaker 3: everybody in summer house. I was like, gosh, they might
Speaker 3: really like Kyle that they just drink this all the time.
Speaker 3: Because if this shit tastes like white claw, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be pissed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is delicious, Oh thank you? And yet what
Speaker 7: is that the pineapple hibiscus?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my first one. I mean I may
Speaker 3: open it. What should I open as my second? Because
Speaker 3: I didn't get an espresso martini one.
Speaker 7: Well, all kind of depends those crank it up a notch,
Speaker 7: and I think that's the only one. I'd suggest pouring
Speaker 7: on ice or in a shaker, because indulgent it's it's
Speaker 7: still low sugar, but that's the more indulgent one. There's
Speaker 7: a I mean it kind of depends. I always tell
Speaker 7: people trust your gut, Like if there's a flavor that
Speaker 7: you see that catches your eye, like I really love
Speaker 7: our our half and half, and if you like tea
Speaker 7: or lemonade, and then we have a black cherry vanilla,
Speaker 7: which tastes way better than like a black cherry white claw.
Speaker 7: Amanda wanted to do essentially like a zero sugar take on,
Speaker 7: like a a hard doctor Pepper or like a hard sir.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 7: So there's a little more flavor than than what you'd
Speaker 7: get from those, you know, kind of like mainstream parts seltzers.
Speaker 2: But well, congratulations on that. Yeah, your first guest in
Speaker 2: the twat seat. We've had twats forever, but now we're
Speaker 2: doing the twats.
Speaker 4: Now I'm in Big Bear and out up in the
Speaker 4: mountains in California.
Speaker 2: I couldn't have them delivered here.
Speaker 4: They were supposed to be here at seven, then they
Speaker 4: said eight, then nine, then ten and eleven, and then
Speaker 4: I'm like, this old lady's going to bed, so you
Speaker 4: had to sign for it. So I didn't get mine,
Speaker 4: But I'm really interested in the expresso.
Speaker 7: Yes, those, So that was one of the hardest ones
Speaker 7: to pull off because they do a proper especially Mateina.
Speaker 7: It can is really challenging. And then people, I mean,
Speaker 7: you go to a bar, they're served such a variety
Speaker 7: of ways. Sometimes it looks like a milkshake, sometimes it's
Speaker 7: pitch black like a like a coffee, and everything in between.
Speaker 7: And also, like sweetness is very subjective, right, Like something
Speaker 7: that I love might be way too sweet for you,
Speaker 7: and vice versa. So like that's why I'm saying I
Speaker 7: think for that one I I prefer actually shaking it
Speaker 7: up to dilute it a little bit some of the sweetness, Yeah,
Speaker 7: a little sweetness. It's also twelve percent.
Speaker 2: So whoa how much is the one I have right now?
Speaker 7: That's a nice light four point two. Okay, So I'll
Speaker 7: be up to non out, which I'm actually gonna open
Speaker 7: right now. I've got a long day.
Speaker 2: And Carl the non olk now, yeah.
Speaker 7: He he, you know, we were like, I basically had
Speaker 7: to say to myself, if we're going to commit the
Speaker 7: you know, the the pre production capital to you know,
Speaker 7: formulate it and do a small run, I got to
Speaker 7: launch this with or without him. And fortunately, you know,
Speaker 7: he jumped on board in a part time capacity and
Speaker 7: I wasn't like, hey, rush back to work with me
Speaker 7: full time. He has other interest passions and we learned
Speaker 7: a thing or two about our working relationship previously. But yeah,
Speaker 7: he's he's excited about that we have. I was actually
Speaker 7: looking tam Ra at your site we because I was
Speaker 7: trying to get kind of caught up with all your
Speaker 7: endeavors and we are doing a THC one too.
Speaker 2: Ours is killing it.
Speaker 4: So we have the you know, it's a non alcoholic,
Speaker 4: but it's got thhc in it, and we launched a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago three Flavors, and then we just
Speaker 4: recently launched three more.
Speaker 3: I'll do a taste test once yours comes out my
Speaker 3: formal review. Speaking of jobs, though, I'm a little bit
Speaker 3: confused about something that keeps happening on Summerhouse this season
Speaker 3: when there's all these discussions between like Carl or Amanda
Speaker 3: or Lindsey and everybody acting like they don't have jobs
Speaker 3: or that they're an influencer.
Speaker 2: Don't y'all get paid to be on Summer House.
Speaker 7: Right, I think that it's not really much of a topic.
Speaker 7: I feel like on other shows on Bravo, because everyone's
Speaker 7: kind of like in a similar place, right right. I
Speaker 7: think the reason why they're has always been this career
Speaker 7: undertone is because of how the show started it. You know,
Speaker 7: it was a group of my friends, all of us
Speaker 7: like worked our butts off in New York City. It
Speaker 7: was very much a work hard, play hard show. Everybody
Speaker 7: had a job, like we filmed in our spare time, right,
Speaker 7: And to some extent, that's what I still do, right,
Speaker 7: Like I spend sixty plus hours a week running lover Boy.
Speaker 7: I'm not like the face of the brand, like I'm
Speaker 7: literally running the company as the CEO. And so you
Speaker 7: have that on one extreme, and then someone who makes
Speaker 7: a living off the show and doing like paid partnerships
Speaker 7: on the other. And then I'm not saying one's better
Speaker 7: than the other, but I think it's a little hypocritical,
Speaker 7: right if you're both collecting a paycheck from the show,
Speaker 7: you both have a brand collapse. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: you know, you're you're kind of shitting all over someone's
Speaker 7: lack of a formal career.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, well somebody that's been you know, on Healthwives
Speaker 4: for sixteen years.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, salary is pretty high, so not gonna lie,
Speaker 2: but it.
Speaker 4: Also, you know, a lot comes along with that, appearances, endorsements,
Speaker 4: social post It is a career, I mean, I would
Speaker 4: say career.
Speaker 2: It's a job right now. It could end at any
Speaker 2: minutes exactly.
Speaker 7: And I think part of maybe some of the frustration
Speaker 7: from Carl's side, like we always looked at what we
Speaker 7: were building with Lover Boys, like listen, like we don't
Speaker 7: know how long the show is going to go. I
Speaker 7: don't want to get stuck doing you know, paid partnerships
Speaker 7: with brands that care about, like we wanted to build
Speaker 7: something from scratch like Blood, Sweat and Tears that we
Speaker 7: can be proud of. And and to your point, like, yeah,
Speaker 7: the long year on, the more money you can make.
Speaker 7: And it's not just the show, it's all the paid
Speaker 7: partnerships that Carl's actually having to talk about because people
Speaker 7: are like, well, you make money from the show, right,
Speaker 7: Like how do you guys pay your bills?
Speaker 3: But I also think when you're with your partner, like
Speaker 3: if even I think just me and Tarmra as friends
Speaker 3: and you know business, we work together for the podcast.
Speaker 3: We started one uping each other on who makes more
Speaker 3: on paid posts. Our friendship isn't going to last.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's not necessarily.
Speaker 7: Honest, Like the Bravo network is going to be much
Speaker 7: more profitable for someone like in your Shoes that you
Speaker 7: can kind of collab with brands that appeal to the
Speaker 7: Bravo audience, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I have a question, did you give are you giving
Speaker 4: Bravo a piece of your business? Because I've never seen
Speaker 4: a product, a talent product so promoted on a Bravo show.
Speaker 7: So I mean technically speaking, I have like the standard
Speaker 7: you know, season one agreement.
Speaker 2: Anything you do, you have to give a percentage.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think the reason why it's worked well for Lover
Speaker 7: Boys if you go back to that, like work hard,
Speaker 7: play hard roots. Right back in the early days, we
Speaker 7: had people in finance, we had people in marketing. We
Speaker 7: people that actually couldn't even legally speak the name of
Speaker 7: their company on air, right, so they latched on to
Speaker 7: be people like me, entrepreneurs that have been doing my
Speaker 7: own things since age twenty. I'm not forty one, and
Speaker 7: it's just like, we don't want to come off as
Speaker 7: this silver Spoon trust fund, you know, cast that parties
Speaker 7: their asses off in the Hamptons, because it's really disorienting
Speaker 7: if like, if you think that's what we normally do
Speaker 7: fifty two weeks of the year.
Speaker 2: But on Wednesdays you do stay out till to at
Speaker 2: four am.
Speaker 7: Sometimes I do have, you know, the occasional yeah, but.
Speaker 2: How many months do you actually film?
Speaker 7: So the first four seasons pretty pandemic. We were eleven
Speaker 7: straight weeks and it was kind of great about our
Speaker 7: show Good or for Bad. You have this very finite
Speaker 7: period of time when the house is rented. You can't
Speaker 7: do a pick up. You can't do anything like that.
Speaker 7: It's everything the camera's film twenty four to seven. They
Speaker 7: catch what they catch, which I think also lends us
Speaker 7: health to being as about as authentic as it gets. Right.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the camera crew never so on Girls Trip,
Speaker 3: the camera crew will leave this.
Speaker 2: Your cameras are up no matter what. Well, there's cameras
Speaker 2: on the walls. We had a Girl's Trip when I
Speaker 2: was on it, so they would catch you.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So there's always like a night producer that has
Speaker 7: the joysticks down in the basement and get, you know,
Speaker 7: zoom in to see who you're texting.
Speaker 2: Do you do you think you run the summerhouse or
Speaker 2: who do you thinks?
Speaker 7: Like hb yeah, if you looked at like a lot
Speaker 7: of the like people think I have a say in
Speaker 7: casting people.
Speaker 3: I love why the way you can't even answer this
Speaker 3: without kind of smiling. I know, I know you're tell
Speaker 3: now because you're like, well, so look.
Speaker 7: There is a sense of pride. I helped cast the
Speaker 7: original season, and I helped the original producers understand the
Speaker 7: Hamptons because the two guys that actually pitched the show
Speaker 7: to a bigger brush company in the network, they were
Speaker 7: from La you know, they're probably thinking like Diddy White parties,
Speaker 7: and it's like, no, no, no, Yeah, the Hantons is huge, Right,
Speaker 7: you have all sorts of a opportunities, but that's it.
Speaker 7: I mean, I have zero say, and it's I don't
Speaker 7: think of it as my show. It's an ensemble show,
Speaker 7: like I think The Lord. When there's other drama going
Speaker 7: on or there's new guys in the mix, I know,
Speaker 7: it's like off of us.
Speaker 2: You know, what do you think of West and Jesse.
Speaker 7: I think they're the best new cast members from a
Speaker 7: guy's perspective that we've ever had. I think that they
Speaker 7: kind of embody what we've always been looking for, which
Speaker 7: is like guys where there's multiple layers. It's not just
Speaker 7: like this type cast f boy or you know jock
Speaker 7: or model. There's multiple layers there, and you know it
Speaker 7: takes multiple seasons to kind of get to know them.
Speaker 2: I would think, right, yeah, did casting find them? And
Speaker 2: do you guys have any say?
Speaker 7: I always ask like, if you're excited about someone, let
Speaker 7: me meet them. Yeah, Like I still do get involved
Speaker 7: in some of that, you know, pre filming work, but
Speaker 7: they're not going to be like, oh, Kyle's like we're
Speaker 7: not going to cast.
Speaker 3: Right right, right right, And do you think there's anybody
Speaker 3: that's a part of Summerhouse that maybe their time has
Speaker 3: come to a halt.
Speaker 7: Look, I think it ebbs and flows right like you
Speaker 7: have some people, you guys have seen it firsthand. You
Speaker 7: have some cast members that aren't opening up, they aren't
Speaker 7: being vulnerable.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's not much feel free to name them? Feel free.
Speaker 7: Well, we're filling our reunion on Friday, So I don't
Speaker 7: know when this is going. I mean there's everything. You
Speaker 7: always have someone who's like, come on, is that is
Speaker 7: that all we got? And if it is, yeah, maybe
Speaker 7: maybe there's an issue or or the broken record thing
Speaker 7: you guys can probably attest to as well. It's like
Speaker 7: if you kind of get the same old, same old
Speaker 7: every single season.
Speaker 2: Like I'm the CEO and what did Danielle keep saying?
Speaker 2: I'm the CEO and.
Speaker 7: As a as a CEO and founder. That did make
Speaker 7: me cringe because I've never used that as a justification
Speaker 7: in a In a conversation.
Speaker 2: About making up with a balloon guy.
Speaker 7: Yes, but man, I had I had one big missed opportunity.
Speaker 7: You know, we were talking about the Blue Balloon Guy
Speaker 7: and you know what was going on in the bedroom,
Speaker 7: and there was a very obvious lay up to what
Speaker 7: balloon Guy was doing with his mouth, probably blowing things
Speaker 7: up or or or the other way around. Look back
Speaker 7: and you're like, God, damn it, that was That would
Speaker 7: have been perfect television.
Speaker 3: If I was in the moment, You're like, damn it,
Speaker 3: I was a little too tipsy.
Speaker 4: Now is there is there ever a chance for a
Speaker 4: balloon guy to become a full time cast member, because
Speaker 4: like on Housewives, if somebody comes in and they make,
Speaker 4: you know, a big a stink or people really like them,
Speaker 4: they might consider bringing them in as a friend or
Speaker 4: maybe a housewife.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm going to operate an assumption balloon Guy's not
Speaker 7: going to listen to this.
Speaker 3: I think going back that none of us learn balloon
Speaker 3: Guy's name pretty much answers your question.
Speaker 7: It is Joe. He was a good sport. I don't
Speaker 7: think he knew what he walked into. But look, I
Speaker 7: think that part of the challenges that we face casting guys.
Speaker 7: New York's like the anti LA in the sense that
Speaker 7: people actually don't want to be on TV here. They're
Speaker 7: very focused on careers that don't translate to being able
Speaker 7: to make cameos or even being guests or or full
Speaker 7: time cast members. So we strung. We've struggled in the
Speaker 7: pastors finding guys and kind of checking up boxes. And look,
Speaker 7: we've had some great guys, but that doesn't mean they
Speaker 7: make great television, right, And so I think West made
Speaker 7: a great splash. I think people still there's a lot
Speaker 7: to a lot more meat on the bone with Jesse.
Speaker 7: There's there's you know, we obviously got to know Wes
Speaker 7: morganas immediately had this little love interest with Sierra, which
Speaker 7: obviously bodes well for camera time.
Speaker 3: But it's pissing me off because I see in the
Speaker 3: scenes for next week that he's texting other girls.
Speaker 2: So now I'm mad at West.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, we all have our our first season edit,
Speaker 7: and apparently this is more like a ten episode edit.
Speaker 3: Really well, speaking of do you live in the Burbs
Speaker 3: yet or no?
Speaker 7: No, And that's actually one thing I want to clear up, Like,
Speaker 7: I don't think I was ever misleading Amanda. We've always
Speaker 7: just kind of I thought, sure, we're almost three years
Speaker 7: ato marriage. I thought we would be trying for a
Speaker 7: variety of reasons, we're not. And in my mind, like
Speaker 7: leaving everything we've got here, the network of friends, you know,
Speaker 7: people that I work with, my office. I just figured
Speaker 7: it makes more sense to go to the burbs when
Speaker 7: you have kids that are at that age where they
Speaker 7: want to play outside and.
Speaker 2: Go to school.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just because like before that, like what's the point
Speaker 7: you're you're uprooting everything almost like prematurely. So there was
Speaker 7: a little bit of misalignment there. I also am very
Speaker 7: torn about which direction we had. Like in New York City,
Speaker 7: no matter where you go, there are pretty accurate stereotypes.
Speaker 2: Were you were you born and raised in New York?
Speaker 7: No, I'm from New Hampshire, which, like people think I
Speaker 7: must be like cow tipping on the weekends. But I
Speaker 7: grew up in Manchester. There was a pretty normal, like
Speaker 7: middle class upbringing in a small little city about an
Speaker 7: hour from Boston.
Speaker 2: How did you get cast for the show? Was this
Speaker 2: your idea? Was it a casting director?
Speaker 7: This is kind of part of why, this is part
Speaker 7: of why I do feel a sense of pride. I
Speaker 7: don't want to say ownership, but you know, early on
Speaker 7: kind of a one man band did a casting call
Speaker 7: for show kind of real world style that was going
Speaker 7: to be based in Montak, so nothing novel, but no
Speaker 7: one had done it in the Hamptons. I walked into
Speaker 7: the room expecting to see a bunch of familiar faces,
Speaker 7: because when you go all the way out east to
Speaker 7: Montalk and you're partying at Serflage every Sunday, you get
Speaker 7: to know people, particularly ten years ago, and like, it
Speaker 7: wasn't like an influencer, you know, haven. You just had
Speaker 7: people that were, you know, enjoying their Sundays before they
Speaker 7: go back to work in the city. And I just
Speaker 7: was like, Wow, they missed the mark on the casting
Speaker 7: And then I was like, Yo, you don't even have
Speaker 7: a house rented. There's no way this is happening this summer.
Speaker 7: And I just found myself like educating everybody involved as
Speaker 7: to like who they should be looking for, where they
Speaker 7: should be, you know, you know, renting a house, et cetera,
Speaker 7: et cetera. And so sure enough, it didn't. Nothing happened
Speaker 7: as a result. But I got contacted by the casting
Speaker 7: director and she's like, look, some more experienced producers have
Speaker 7: kind of taken on the project. They loved you. They
Speaker 7: want to meet your friends. And I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 7: going to waste anybody's time until I know this is
Speaker 7: somewhat legitimate, and so instead of bringing all my friends
Speaker 7: to them, I let them come to a party. I
Speaker 7: was actually hosting Who's a charity event? And that's kind
Speaker 7: of how the the real casting began. They they found
Speaker 7: out that I knew the Workstes, So the girls, the
Speaker 7: twins from season one and two. We were friends. We'd
Speaker 7: actually met out in the Hamptons, and through them and
Speaker 7: me and all of our shared friends and friends of friends,
Speaker 7: I mean probably one hundred people went through the Ringer
Speaker 7: in terms of the casting process.
Speaker 3: And is there anyone that was on at any of
Speaker 3: these past seasons that you wish was still there? Like
Speaker 3: you can only pick one that you're like, Wow, I
Speaker 3: really wish this person wasn't gone, whether it was production's
Speaker 3: decision or the person's decision.
Speaker 2: And does any is it like Housewives? Does anyone really
Speaker 2: quit Summerhouse or do you only get fired?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think all shows on Bravo have the same ala,
Speaker 7: no matter how you pr it. No, Look, I think
Speaker 7: there's there was a couple unfortunate departures, Like I hate
Speaker 7: having any kind of like riffs or beefs that kind
Speaker 7: of went unresolved. Like how I after the second season reunion,
Speaker 7: you know, when we kind of split ways with the
Speaker 7: workers is I just it irked me with how we
Speaker 7: left things, even though I didn't really feel like they
Speaker 7: treated me and Amanda how we should be treated. You know,
Speaker 7: I felt bad with you know again, despite the attacks,
Speaker 7: I felt about how things Hannah was uh ended. With Hannah,
Speaker 7: I think season five was a tough season to film.
Speaker 7: We were in the pandemic. I think there was a
Speaker 7: lot of pressure for her to, like I think she
Speaker 7: felt felt like she was, you know, whether in the
Speaker 7: hot seat or felt like she needed to bring like
Speaker 7: that main cast energy. Yeah, there's been a lot of
Speaker 7: instance that Stephen McGee like, we've we've buried the hatchet,
Speaker 7: you know, so I'd love to, like, you know, have
Speaker 7: an opportunity kind of bury the hatchet with some of
Speaker 7: these people.
Speaker 2: But you know, I bring them back, I said, I've.
Speaker 7: Said, I'm like, I get it. Hannah is like doing
Speaker 7: the comedy thing and Gigley squad and doesn't need to
Speaker 7: bring you know, doesn't want to bring her relationship into
Speaker 7: the ringer, which I respect.
Speaker 4: Do you think next season Lindsay and Carl will have
Speaker 4: a problem filming together and will one of them go.
Speaker 7: I think the reunion is going to be a real
Speaker 7: big telltale sign because I don't want to like spill
Speaker 7: too much here. Yeah, we're spilling some tea. We're drinking
Speaker 7: some tea. I mean, look, when when you have lawyers
Speaker 7: get involved, that means you no longer can like directly communicate.
Speaker 7: Like that's just I don't know if it's like an
Speaker 7: unwritten law or it's an actual law of the land, right,
Speaker 7: Like you know, once lawyers are are kind of leading
Speaker 7: the communications, you can't really circumvent and.
Speaker 2: You mean lawyers between the two of them, Yeah, which
Speaker 2: the don't they have to like pay off the wedding
Speaker 2: wasn't there?
Speaker 7: Carl took the hit, Carl's kind of been taking the
Speaker 7: financial hits and I don't. And again this is something
Speaker 7: that we'll be talked about. I don't understand a world
Speaker 7: in which lawyers are involved. You don't have entangled assets,
Speaker 7: there's no alimony, there's no child custody. This is a
Speaker 7: bad breakup.
Speaker 2: Did they even have dogs? I was gonna say that,
Speaker 2: do they have a dog.
Speaker 7: They have no dogs. They had a car.
Speaker 2: Okay, so somebody's bitter. Somebody's really bitter, That's what it is.
Speaker 7: So I think that I think now when they watch
Speaker 7: it back, I think they probably both have an easier
Speaker 7: time of acknowledging accepting we weren't meant to be. I
Speaker 7: wish things didn't get so bitter. I wish lawyers didn't
Speaker 7: get involved, because to me, that makes any type of
Speaker 7: reconciliation all the much harder, and it makes it harder
Speaker 7: to imagine a world in which they could, like coens
Speaker 7: co exist under one house this summer.
Speaker 3: Do you think they thought this would be like they're
Speaker 3: scandal all. Do you think there was any prethinking through it?
Speaker 3: Because sometimes I'm watching some of these moments that are
Speaker 3: having together and listen, you and a man have gotten
Speaker 3: in brutal arguments on the show and things that I'm
Speaker 3: sure both of you regret. But some of the things
Speaker 3: that those two were saying to each other, I was like,
Speaker 3: even if there's like a morsel of love there, you
Speaker 3: probably don't say it.
Speaker 2: You just don't see it.
Speaker 4: Between them, they did not seem like they got along
Speaker 4: at all, Like she was annoyed by the way he breathed.
Speaker 2: It seemed like it's like, why do you want to
Speaker 2: marry someone.
Speaker 7: You saw it even the previous season. I don't know
Speaker 7: how like well versed you are in Summer House lore,
Speaker 7: but like there were people they kind of rejected the
Speaker 7: notion of them as a couple kind of from the
Speaker 7: get go. Yeah, I tried to rally and stand by,
Speaker 7: you know, particularly Carl's side, because he always was there
Speaker 7: for me during my ups and downs of my relationship.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, all right, apples and oranges, but I
Speaker 7: still got to be there for the guy. And I mean,
Speaker 7: I've known Lindsay technically longer than I've known Carl. So
Speaker 7: it was a tough spot because, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 7: us saw a lot of the red flags, a lot
Speaker 7: of the writing on the wall. I knew once Lindsay
Speaker 7: was drinking again that it was going to create a
Speaker 7: lot of challenges. And that's not to say I'm blaming Lindsay,
Speaker 7: but it's just like they are two very different people
Speaker 7: to begin with, Yeah, mixed an alcohol.
Speaker 4: Can can we blame Lindsey for having Carla ask you
Speaker 4: to be the flower boy?
Speaker 7: See she was just saw watch what happened saying that,
Speaker 7: like I don't even know who to believe it really
Speaker 7: doesn't matter. Like I understand having planned a wedding and
Speaker 7: it practically it was like the wedding that.
Speaker 2: Just never seemed to he's watching right now, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not going to say the planning almost.
Speaker 2: Like you know, broke you guys, it was fine.
Speaker 7: God with COVID and just all the stress, the challenges.
Speaker 7: We've had a couple of venues that fell through because
Speaker 7: of filming deposits were lost, you know, and then the
Speaker 7: costs just doubled with the aftermath of COVID, all the
Speaker 7: vendors trying to like make up for eighteen months of
Speaker 7: lost revenue. So anyway, I can appreciate, like, Okay, I
Speaker 7: wanted to put you know, a cap on groomsmen and
Speaker 7: bridesmaids and you know, et cetera, et cetera. And Paul
Speaker 7: does have a bunch of really good friends that he's
Speaker 7: still close with from his childhood and and whatnot. So
Speaker 7: I honestly didn't take it too personally. I also knew that, like, yeah,
Speaker 7: like I came at Lindsay to the summer before. Although
Speaker 7: I think I called it how it was, I just
Speaker 7: my delivery was incredibly distasteful. I was, you know, name
Speaker 7: calling and you know, screaming and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: But I do that all the time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes the truth Hirst. But well,
Speaker 7: but yeah, I look, I think the flower boy thing
Speaker 7: was actually pretty funny, and I get like him wanting
Speaker 7: to awsome involve Luke and Andrea. So I was gonna
Speaker 7: roll the punches.
Speaker 3: But well, watching this this entire season, at first, I
Speaker 3: was kind of like, what the hell Lindsay. I was
Speaker 3: annoyed at Lindsay the whole time, but this past episode myself,
Speaker 3: and then I actually like went on Twitter and read
Speaker 3: it and trolled around and saw I didn't write anything.
Speaker 3: I just looked, and it seemed like there started to
Speaker 3: be a shift after the conversation that Carl had with
Speaker 3: his parents, that people started to see the other side.
Speaker 7: Here's my take on it. I've seen and I don't
Speaker 7: know if you're reading the same things I read, because
Speaker 7: I was curious. A lot of people were like, oh
Speaker 7: my god, this was premeditated, this was scripted. Carl lanned
Speaker 7: this conversation right.
Speaker 2: This happened after filming and they broke up, And I.
Speaker 7: Can tell you right now that couldn't be further from
Speaker 7: the truth. I think what made it so eye opening
Speaker 7: was the brutal honesty that lou his stepdad, was willing
Speaker 7: to give him in that moment. And because I can
Speaker 7: tell you right now, like Carl grappled with how to
Speaker 7: even tell me and then tell Lindsey about this combo.
Speaker 7: He knew blow things up.
Speaker 2: So he this combo happened in real time. As we're saying,
Speaker 2: I've been.
Speaker 7: In real time, and you know, I think that the
Speaker 7: other thing I'll say about this scene, but that moment
Speaker 7: was one of the most unedited things I've ever watched
Speaker 7: on Bravo. It was practically a straight through shot of
Speaker 7: the conversation because you can always tell when things are
Speaker 7: like editor, And that was another thing where I'm like, look,
Speaker 7: if people knew what we knew, having you know, gone
Speaker 7: through the process, you know, you see the behind the scenes,
Speaker 7: I'm like, that was one of the most real, raw, unedited,
Speaker 7: unproduced combos I've ever seen on Bravo. Period.
Speaker 4: No, I forget there was so much news about their breakup.
Speaker 4: It was probably close to a year ago, right, does
Speaker 4: it actually happen on camera or did it happen after
Speaker 4: you guys.
Speaker 7: Stopped well that was the big you know.
Speaker 2: This was right before Bravocon, right, I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 7: What happened was cameras went down, and you know, the
Speaker 7: the producers were pitching the network literally three days later
Speaker 7: about the budget needed to cover their wedding because I mean,
Speaker 7: nothing's given, and and the producers were they're the ones
Speaker 7: you reach out to Carl. I think where things got
Speaker 7: crazy was the immediate accusation that Carl actually is the
Speaker 7: one who called up the cameras.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was wondering.
Speaker 7: So the producers are like looking at each other, like
Speaker 7: just based on how the last couple of conversations went
Speaker 7: in the house out in the Hamptons, it would make
Speaker 7: zero sense to go straight into a wedding. We need
Speaker 7: a therapy session, we need something, because it was like
Speaker 7: and I was actually taking apart my stereo the last
Speaker 7: day in the house as they were trying to have
Speaker 7: one last combo and it was like two ships passing.
Speaker 7: They just couldnot like see eye to eye on anything.
Speaker 7: And so I could actually appreciate where the producers were
Speaker 7: coming from and what immediately made the headlines. And I
Speaker 7: think this was kind of I hate to say it,
Speaker 7: But from Lindsay's camp, the rumor started that Carl was
Speaker 7: the one who called up the cameras, and so the
Speaker 7: whole thing from the very first piece of press.
Speaker 2: Well not just that he called up the cameras.
Speaker 3: They made it seem like she found out through the
Speaker 3: press that this happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she had never told her and did she
Speaker 2: know in real time?
Speaker 7: Before You'll see, Carl wasn't even the one who put
Speaker 7: the nail on the coffin. So all that gets filmed
Speaker 7: because the producers were in communication with Carl and Lindsay
Speaker 7: about needing to film something to kind of connect.
Speaker 2: The dots, and so he filmed the breakup.
Speaker 7: The break I mean, I didn't start as a breakup scene.
Speaker 2: Oh so thing.
Speaker 4: Do you think that Carl did it so Lindsay couldn't
Speaker 4: twist it? He did it on camera so.
Speaker 7: She can in retrospect. I'm sure he's thankful, because look,
Speaker 7: she has a past in PR and what do you
Speaker 7: do in PR? You spin things. So I think that
Speaker 7: was a motivator for him, But I think it was
Speaker 7: a beneficial byproduct of them doing on camera.
Speaker 2: Do you think that either of them is still in
Speaker 2: love with the other one.
Speaker 7: I think they miss each other's company and friendship because
Speaker 7: I think that's what the relationship was built upon to
Speaker 7: begin with. So I'm sure there are moments where one
Speaker 7: another is, you know, lonely, but I think it didn't
Speaker 7: take long for I think both them to realize, Okay,
Speaker 7: this wasn't meant to be. Maybe they got caught up
Speaker 7: in the moment. It doesn't you know, it doesn't help
Speaker 7: that TV does kind of push fast forward on things, right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean we've all seen that and how it can
Speaker 7: can kind of affect things, sometimes for good, sometimes we're bad.
Speaker 3: Have you met her new man yet, Lindsay's I have, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he thumbs up, thumbs down in the middle.
Speaker 7: He seems like a really good, normal guy that clearly
Speaker 7: hasn't seen a single minute.
Speaker 2: Of reality television. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Linday was supposed to do Traders with me on
Speaker 4: season two, and then she did it because of the wedding.
Speaker 4: And then the wedding got called off and her and
Speaker 4: I were talking and she's like, well, maybe I can
Speaker 4: come in mid season, but didn't happen.
Speaker 2: I heard there's some rumors that she.
Speaker 4: Might be doing in season three. Now you did season one, Yeah,
Speaker 4: was that not brutal?
Speaker 7: It was wild. But here's the thing I love. I mean,
Speaker 7: to do a season one show is kind of like
Speaker 7: an honor and a privilege, and now to do Traders
Speaker 7: since it was so well received as an honor and privilege, right,
Speaker 7: but think about it like Summerhouse, brand new concept, something
Speaker 7: Bravo really hadn't attempted to truly. I mean, yeah, they
Speaker 7: filmed some surveillance stuff and below Deck and whatnot, but
Speaker 7: you know, that was kind of a new concept for them.
Speaker 7: And then Winterhouse. Basically, I don't know if we filmed
Speaker 7: before anything Girls Trips or not. I think we did.
Speaker 7: It helped them figure out how to really condense filming
Speaker 7: into some little short, fun action pack season and then
Speaker 7: to do Traders. I was like so out of my olment.
Speaker 7: I never watched any of these competition shows.
Speaker 2: You too, it was horrible. What was the best and
Speaker 2: worst part of it for you?
Speaker 7: I think the best part was it was riveting. It
Speaker 7: was exhilarating, and it was a show where the drama
Speaker 7: had nothing to do with my personal life, right. I
Speaker 7: Also it kind of allowed me to like put the
Speaker 7: party party boy hat up on the hook because I'm
Speaker 7: look I've got my m b A. I'm a smart guy.
Speaker 7: I was the first to figure out who all three
Speaker 7: traders were. And you know it didn't I think it
Speaker 7: showed me.
Speaker 3: You know who you remind me of when you just
Speaker 3: gave yourself a little compliment.
Speaker 2: Tam Tam.
Speaker 3: She'll say things like, you know, I was iconic, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, one time, don't don't.
Speaker 2: Be jealous, Teddy.
Speaker 3: So you guys, you have the same drunk voice as
Speaker 3: tam Ra and you guys, you to your own horror.
Speaker 2: I love it along. We can see brother and sister exactly.
Speaker 7: I was Actually there were parts I think the more
Speaker 7: the more frustrating part, but interestingly it added a dynamic.
Speaker 7: Was you had ten people that had been on TV
Speaker 7: and ten people that had it, and I think the
Speaker 7: producers like, oh, that'll create an interesting dynamic. But what
Speaker 7: I think ended up happening was the TV personalities almost
Speaker 7: had to suppress the non TV people had to, like
Speaker 7: at least try to rise to the occasion and get
Speaker 7: comfortable with cameras, and that, to me is interesting, but
Speaker 7: I think it takes a little bit of a way
Speaker 7: away from what the show is supposed to be about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they won't do that again. I think
Speaker 2: they'll have just well, yeah, they already kind of yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they saw the writing on the wall.
Speaker 7: But I mean, look, we had some incredible cast members
Speaker 7: from those ten that hadn't been on. But I think
Speaker 7: it's like it just allows you to get to the
Speaker 7: you know, jump to the punch like much quicker. If
Speaker 7: everyone's like, all right, yeah, been on TV before, who's
Speaker 7: the freaking Trader?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How many episodes did were you on?
Speaker 7: I made it about halfway?
Speaker 2: And uh so, how did you have ten episodes too?
Speaker 2: You're on like my five episodes?
Speaker 7: You guys had eleven. I think we had ten, And yeah,
Speaker 7: I was on. I think I got the boot at
Speaker 7: the very end of five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the the beginning of five, and I
Speaker 2: was deathly.
Speaker 4: When I say deathly, I mean deathly sick, the sickest
Speaker 4: I've ever been in my life.
Speaker 7: You were missing for one challenge.
Speaker 4: I was actually missing four days, but they only made
Speaker 4: it look like I was missing. You know, you shoot
Speaker 4: the first episode like in three or four days, and
Speaker 4: then we had like a press day, then we had
Speaker 4: two days off, and then I missed a day so
Speaker 4: I was able to like doctor came in, put me
Speaker 4: on these super strong antibotics and just so freaking sick.
Speaker 4: I could barely even walk, couldn't talk, I lost my
Speaker 4: voice completely.
Speaker 2: Put me on antibotics.
Speaker 4: The antibotics had a reverse reaction to me, like I
Speaker 4: ended up in the hospital.
Speaker 2: Like it was just a horrible experience altogether.
Speaker 4: I wish sometimes I wish I could redo it now,
Speaker 4: knowing what I was getting into. Plus a little bit
Speaker 4: nervous because I thought being on Housewives, I was going
Speaker 4: to be like, Oh, this is gonna be easy. You know,
Speaker 4: I've been able to it's so different.
Speaker 2: First of all, there's no drinking. There's no drinking, so
Speaker 2: there's no camera balls. To get with a couple of cocktails.
Speaker 4: You just have to e and it's exhausting talking camera
Speaker 4: camera balls.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So like literally.
Speaker 4: Literally getting up at six in the morning, us girls
Speaker 4: trying to get makeup and look decent, and you literally
Speaker 4: are there, you know, filming till eleven o'clock at night,
Speaker 4: and then you don't get you can have to unwind,
Speaker 4: take notes literally four hours of sleep night.
Speaker 7: A couple of things that I think they I gave feedback,
Speaker 7: and I don't know if they take it into consideration.
Speaker 7: But one of the issues that I had going back
Speaker 7: to your question. See, so since I knew the producers
Speaker 7: chose uh got to choose all three traders from the
Speaker 7: get go by process of elimination. Once I figured out
Speaker 7: I knew it was Cody, I knew was Christian. Two
Speaker 7: white dudes. Okay, it's not gonna be another white dude,
Speaker 7: probably not even a white chick. So I started trying
Speaker 7: to like think like that and start do process of
Speaker 7: you know, of elimination. And on your season, they let
Speaker 7: the two traders choose the third, which I thought was
Speaker 7: really smart.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I also liked the you know, bringing Kate in to
Speaker 7: kind of mix it up and kind of remind I
Speaker 7: haven't seen Big Brother, but yeah, that was hell Yeah,
Speaker 7: and I think there was actual how I think they'll
Speaker 7: continue to mix it up like that to keep people
Speaker 7: on their toes.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to bring Bananas back half halfway
Speaker 2: through the season. I think he got robbed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, even I want to go back, but I would
Speaker 7: say Bonanza Banana should go back before I because he
Speaker 7: got You can't remind me of res like I thought
Speaker 7: Resida got robbed because of his personality, and oh my god,
Speaker 7: I think he did too. Although it's horrible I mean competition.
Speaker 4: But even as a faithful to try to pick out
Speaker 4: a trader like you just met and you only had, like,
Speaker 4: you know, twenty four hours to sum them up, and
Speaker 4: you have to go off their mannerisms and all these things,
Speaker 4: and you don't even know this person, it's really difficult
Speaker 4: to like, Okay, you're a trader. I mean, Peppermint got
Speaker 4: kicked off or murdered or vanished, whatever it was.
Speaker 7: I feel bad.
Speaker 4: I felt bad, and it was because she said she
Speaker 4: slipped and said I'm a trader. And so when somebody
Speaker 4: says that the beginning, that that's all you have to
Speaker 4: go off of, that's it.
Speaker 3: Who do you think will be the best from Summer
Speaker 3: House or Winterhouse to go on traders?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 2: Who would kill it?
Speaker 7: I'm actually getting if Lindsay gets cast the first season three,
Speaker 7: I mean, that's that'll be interesting TV. She'd be my
Speaker 7: number one.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe maybe Age maybe.
Speaker 7: Like Schwartz, I don't know. I think Sports is a
Speaker 7: really freaking smart guy.
Speaker 2: Like I know, he just plays like this like little puppy.
Speaker 7: I love to get him out of his element.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Why do I have a feeling Sandoval
Speaker 2: is going to be on I could.
Speaker 7: See Yeah, I mean yeah, he's He's basically doing every
Speaker 7: villain show that's been been written.
Speaker 2: Of villains. I'm surprised, Oh he will.
Speaker 7: Yeah that's a way.
Speaker 2: Now, is that a show that you would be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to be on House of Villains?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Would you do House the Villains?
Speaker 7: So I only saw a little bits and pieces. I
Speaker 7: think the names a little misleading at the other day,
Speaker 7: She's like a competition show, right, So yeah, I love strategy.
Speaker 7: I think I'm just not as well versed in like
Speaker 7: the alliances and like I thought I thought Survivor was
Speaker 7: about physical feats. It's like, no, you actually are prone
Speaker 7: to getting voted off if you crush physical feats. It's
Speaker 7: about all the social strategy game.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just find Traders so confusing when I first started.
Speaker 4: Now knowing lived it all that I would go back
Speaker 4: totally different person.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So, of all the competition shows, what would the
Speaker 7: two of you want to do?
Speaker 2: I would want to do Special Forces.
Speaker 4: I got called about that one, but I couldn't do
Speaker 4: it because I was doing something else.
Speaker 2: But that sounds that's a little bit brudal.
Speaker 3: What I like about that one is you don't get
Speaker 3: voted off. So for me, like I did well in
Speaker 3: Big Brother, I was second in the competition, my first competition,
Speaker 3: and then they were like we see you as a threat.
Speaker 7: You're out, goodbye, but you get the early acts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Special Forces, the only way that you don't
Speaker 3: make it through is if you quit on yourself, which
Speaker 3: you don't even have to complete, like you you could
Speaker 3: still fail a mission, but as long as you don't quit.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's something, it's a mental challenge.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't want to do any show that I can't
Speaker 4: have my phone that limit game. That is a deal
Speaker 4: breaker for me. How's the villain you can have your phone?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 7: For Traders, I was like, listen, if there's an emergency,
Speaker 7: my CEO has to be able to reach me.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: And I don't know which one of you things up
Speaker 4: for season two of Traders, but we weren't even allowed
Speaker 4: to have remote controls to our TV because one of
Speaker 4: you found out how to communicate through the smart TV
Speaker 4: or whatever it is where they can Yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Say, Kate did it. I think Kate's the one that
Speaker 2: figured it out.
Speaker 3: Kate, it doesn't seem like she could figure out to
Speaker 3: that point. Can we get back to page who? I
Speaker 3: want to be my best friend? But I don't know.
Speaker 3: Do you think that her and Craig are going to last?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I mean, look, I think they've done a pretty remarkable
Speaker 7: job making it work, given their locations, given the two
Speaker 7: different you know, shows that they're on. I mean, to
Speaker 7: some extent, I think I didn't see the last season
Speaker 7: of Southern Charm, but I think it was shep perhaps
Speaker 7: leading the charge, kind of calling Craig out, like, Yo,
Speaker 7: you don't have to bring in like the the really
Speaker 7: in depth relationship trauma because your girlfriend's on the show.
Speaker 7: So to that extent, I can understand why cast members
Speaker 7: are like, oh, it's kind of like the easy way out,
Speaker 7: but they're making it work. Love. When Craig comes to Summerhouse, he.
Speaker 3: Seem like he like lost a little bit of hope
Speaker 3: this season. I think he seemed a little melancholy, you know.
Speaker 7: I think some people read it as like he's just
Speaker 7: feeling more secure, you know, and confident himself. I think that,
Speaker 7: you know, he was basically just acknowledging like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 7: sometimes even the relationship you want the work doesn't pan out.
Speaker 7: I think they're going to go the distance. I don't
Speaker 7: think they're on any strict timetable. I also just don't
Speaker 7: really see a world in which either one of them
Speaker 7: makes a huge sacrifice. So that's the only Like I
Speaker 7: don't really see Page leaving New York, and I don't
Speaker 7: really see Page leaving, uh, Craig leaving Charleston.
Speaker 2: But you can live in both places. With what they said,
Speaker 2: it's the best marriage ever. They live in different states.
Speaker 7: I mean sometimes those long distance relationships like yes, I
Speaker 7: think you know, you could argue that it creates healthy
Speaker 7: distance and boundaries or whatever the hell it is. But
Speaker 7: long run, one of you know, I know they both
Speaker 7: want to start a family, probably Craig more eagerly than
Speaker 7: than Page.
Speaker 2: Well, what's going to have to give? Well, I'm going
Speaker 2: to do. What do you think will happen? First?
Speaker 3: That Page will move to Charleston or that you'll move
Speaker 3: to the burbs.
Speaker 7: Oh boy, there's got to be a third option.
Speaker 2: There isn't He's like, why didn't I say alcohol?
Speaker 4: The third option would be Amanda moves to Jersey, and
Speaker 4: you guys have a long distance marriage.
Speaker 7: Well, but even that just seems unhealthy, like if because
Speaker 7: I know plenty of people back particularly I feel like
Speaker 7: back in the mad Man days of like fifties sixties
Speaker 7: in New York, where you know, you'd have the house
Speaker 7: and the burbs, and then when apartments are a little
Speaker 7: more affordable, you'd have like the apartment here here, here,
Speaker 7: three four nights a week. That just seems weird to me,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I can understand why I
Speaker 7: work because commuting sucks, but like the second you have kids,
Speaker 7: like do you want to be away from the kids,
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, it'd be too hard, too hard, Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 2: I think that's hard.
Speaker 3: And then also but I think those are the conversations that.
Speaker 2: You have to have owing, you know, before you go forward.
Speaker 7: Hey, you're still you're tight with Stossi and Bo, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I love that. I actually caught up with Bo a
Speaker 7: couple of months ago. Stasi was with the kids, but
Speaker 7: I kind of lost touch with them via the pandemic
Speaker 7: and whatnot. But I love them as a couple.
Speaker 2: They're the best. And you know what, now, like have
Speaker 2: you watched the Valley at all.
Speaker 7: I haven't had time. I'm like so behind on all
Speaker 7: my friends shows. It's embarrassing, but I haven't been able
Speaker 7: to catch it.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's good. We cover it. It's on
Speaker 3: popping off. It is so beyond like it. If you
Speaker 3: think Vandi Pump Rules is a ship show like The
Speaker 3: Valley is times ten. Valley and Summerhouse are my two
Speaker 3: favorites now. And but I've only seen one season of Summerhouse.
Speaker 3: I'm now going to have to go back and rewatch it.
Speaker 7: So season one and you go eight, seven, six, four, I.
Speaker 3: Don't work a good question. I watched season eight already.
Speaker 3: So now do you think I should start at season?
Speaker 3: What season am I going to dislike you the most?
Speaker 3: And what season are you going to have my heart?
Speaker 7: Oh? I have multiple flawed seasons.
Speaker 2: I'm going to start with season one?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Well season one, season one, yeah, I think you just
Speaker 7: started season one. Season three I go through a pretty
Speaker 7: big public you know, roller coaster ride, but.
Speaker 2: I need some One is the worst season with Amanda, right, Well.
Speaker 7: We were still defining our relationship. I think where I
Speaker 7: got and she kind of got dragged in the dirt
Speaker 7: by fans. People called her my booty call, but we
Speaker 7: have been dating for like sixty eight months prior, and
Speaker 7: I was just having like that classic early thirties New
Speaker 7: York commitment fobe challenge where I did not want to
Speaker 7: put a label on it, partly because that's who I
Speaker 7: was at the time, partly because I knew I was about
Speaker 7: to do this show and I never watched reality, but
Speaker 7: I know there's always this guy in like real world
Speaker 7: with like the girlfriend back home at he cheats on.
Speaker 7: I'm like, I do not want to be that guy.
Speaker 7: So I actually kind of broken things off with Amanda,
Speaker 7: you know, who was much more than a booty call
Speaker 7: at the time. She was basing my girlfriend that we
Speaker 7: didn't put the label on, and what ended up happening
Speaker 7: was like just like pure TV gold. She tells me
Speaker 7: after the fact that she had a house in montak
Speaker 7: for the month of July. Was too scared to tell
Speaker 7: me because I thought she was gonna be on the
Speaker 7: shore in Jersey, and she was like, yeah, all my
Speaker 7: friends are doing it, so I'm doing it, but I
Speaker 7: didn't want to freak you out. Turns out the house
Speaker 7: was like ten minutes from our first season house, and
Speaker 7: as luck would have it after I had that hilarious,
Speaker 7: highly embarrassing moment with Stassy in the hot tub where
Speaker 7: I said she looked like Steve Jobs. No, oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: that's season one. That's like that was Andy's number one
Speaker 7: rated hot tub moment in Bravo history.
Speaker 3: Broke your ankle in the hot tub, I mean Kyle's
Speaker 3: one up in you.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'd rather do that.
Speaker 7: This one was just pure comedy, and it took me
Speaker 7: like five watches to get a good laugh at it
Speaker 7: because I'm like, oh my god, I'm literally making my
Speaker 7: TV debut blacked out in a hot tub.
Speaker 2: This is going to be It's not a good place.
Speaker 7: Weekend The next weekend, a man and I we we
Speaker 7: wrapped filming. The house goes out and I literally spontaneously
Speaker 7: bump into Amanda on the dance floor at like two
Speaker 7: three in the morning, she comes back to the house.
Speaker 7: I didn't even understand how the surveillance cameras were at
Speaker 7: the time. It didn't even realize the house was miked,
Speaker 7: even though we weren't, and we skinny dipped and had
Speaker 7: sex and all of it made the air.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm turning it on right now. No, what made
Speaker 2: the air?
Speaker 3: This season when you baby talked to Amanda and he said,
Speaker 3: you touch my penish?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 2: Why did Josh?
Speaker 7: Why? Those are those those those super raw summer house moments.
Speaker 7: Do you get with those Thilans?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you have a pattern every time you get
Speaker 4: out of bed, you put your hand down your underwear.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're always a just straight away.
Speaker 7: Well you gotta put the boy down before you stand
Speaker 7: up on surveyillance. And then actually one moment thing was
Speaker 7: at the second last or last episode, I was a
Speaker 7: sneaking coming from the back of the bathroom and I
Speaker 7: just did this sidestep. Yeah, you know the camera You
Speaker 7: kind of get to used to working around the cameras
Speaker 7: at the cer amount of time. But that season one,
Speaker 7: that was pure. I mean that was like og, like
Speaker 7: the cameras were there and we did not give up.
Speaker 2: Now are these camera men? Are the cameras on the.
Speaker 7: Walls the same cameras on the wall and like girls trips? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 7: so I just don't think any of us, well a man,
Speaker 7: it's like two things. One, I've never seen sex on Bravo,
Speaker 7: so she signed the release. Two she's like they hardly
Speaker 7: use any of the surveillance cameras in like below deck.
Speaker 2: Oh so we're basing it. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So we were like, I mean, how much footage
Speaker 7: because they actually use If you add up the average
Speaker 7: season of how much footage comes from these surveillance cameras,
Speaker 7: it's a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are we going to see you and Amanda having
Speaker 3: sex this season?
Speaker 7: We I think that after we crossed the threshold. I
Speaker 7: think it was around season three or season four, man,
Speaker 7: I was like, all right, we've given a lot. We're
Speaker 7: no longer.
Speaker 2: Giving that, Okay, So I mean I see that. Then
Speaker 2: have like Lindsay and Carl where they were like good
Speaker 2: night and they both turned around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, last night she had to take her wig off,
Speaker 3: like she didn't even realize it was still on, and
Speaker 3: then you see her just pull it.
Speaker 2: Off, and like, like, I've heads on the bed. I know,
Speaker 2: I kind of want to see.
Speaker 3: I don't need y'all to have everybody to be having sex,
Speaker 3: but I want a little bit more intimacy before bed.
Speaker 7: I mean there was a season where like three or
Speaker 7: four rooms, like we were all having sex at the
Speaker 7: same time. I forget what season that was. So there
Speaker 7: was a lot more sex in the earlier days. I
Speaker 7: think Amanda Candily is probably a little scarred from it. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so we try to refrain from the on camera shag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm sure your parent all your parents just
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 7: What do you think either one she was just like
Speaker 7: had to forbid her dad from what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't even look.
Speaker 3: What do you think a healthy amount of sex is
Speaker 3: for a marriage? Because we saw this season also Karl
Speaker 3: and Lindsay talking about I forget maybe it's once every
Speaker 3: six weeks, like it was very spread out. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you gave an answer, but like West and
Speaker 3: Ciara still haven't even had sex for what we're seeing, right, Like.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you're married and you've already gotten past
Speaker 7: like the honeymoon phase and you're just trying to spark
Speaker 7: a live, if you're not having sex every week, I
Speaker 7: feel like that. I mean, yeah, you can blame schedules,
Speaker 7: you can blame stress, you can blame whatever. But if
Speaker 7: you're not making an effort, I think that's.
Speaker 3: Like then it starts to get uncomfortable and you start
Speaker 3: to get nervous to even do it.
Speaker 7: But be yah, yeah, you don't want to like go
Speaker 7: so long that you now that's a thing, right, And.
Speaker 4: Then you're like, if you're not gonna if you're not
Speaker 4: gonna initiate it either, am I, And then that can
Speaker 4: go on.
Speaker 7: And I can totally appreciate, like, yeah, even once a
Speaker 7: week when you're married, like that's sometimes like the stars
Speaker 7: don't align. But I mean one of the things my
Speaker 7: grandfather lived a very He was like a very outspoken guy,
Speaker 7: very comfortable and confident, and he was just like, I
Speaker 7: forget what the third was, but he's like, let me
Speaker 7: tell you why some marriages work and some marriages don't.
Speaker 7: Comes down to sex money. I don't know, the third
Speaker 7: doesn't even matter because I was just like, what do
Speaker 7: you mean. He's like, you need to be you need
Speaker 7: to have a healthy sexual relationship, and you need to
Speaker 7: find someone who like has similar spending habits or philosophy
Speaker 7: around like how you should spend your disposed because so
Speaker 7: many mayors are challenged by you know, whether it's debt or.
Speaker 2: Power struggles or frivolous spending.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's like, okay, you know, if you think
Speaker 7: of it like that is you know, coming from my
Speaker 7: grandfather was married for sixty something years kind of he
Speaker 7: told this all that very early on. I kind of
Speaker 7: took it to heart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but I know we're running out of time.
Speaker 3: But you said on Watch What Happens Live that you
Speaker 3: are going to shave the mullet at the reunion.
Speaker 2: Who are you going to let shave it?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Well ironically speak of my grandfather, my grandma, your grandma?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: Yeah? So she it was funny. One of the facetimeed
Speaker 7: her on her birthday, her one hundred and first birthday,
Speaker 7: and she was still pretty. She had hard time like announcing, announcing,
Speaker 7: announcing any things. But the one thing she's always made
Speaker 7: clear to me, she hates my mullet. And even in
Speaker 7: that moment, she was just like, what are you cutting it?
Speaker 7: And then then the last thing I said to her,
Speaker 7: like a couple of weeks later before she passed, she
Speaker 7: was just like, I really hate your hair.
Speaker 4: Now are you going to cut it to a nice
Speaker 4: little You're gonna get a little walk or something. What
Speaker 4: are you gonna do?
Speaker 7: I think I don't want to go right back to
Speaker 7: like my pre mullet hair, but I think I'm gonna
Speaker 7: go up on the reunion stage at some point. I'm
Speaker 7: gonna let if we do maybe pick what do they
Speaker 7: call him? Pick? Like two little maybe let handicut one
Speaker 7: Amanda cut the other.
Speaker 2: How does Amanda feel about the mullet? Does she carry
Speaker 2: their what?
Speaker 7: Well, Like I said, it's started as a bit of
Speaker 7: a joke, as in New Year's Resolution, it kind of
Speaker 7: became this. I mean, I think it's funny, but people
Speaker 7: are like, dude, you look so much better after. I'm like,
Speaker 7: this was never about looks. This is more of a lifestyle.
Speaker 2: I think you're going to miss it.
Speaker 7: I think I'm going to miss it. I think Amanda
Speaker 7: is going to fall back in love with me because
Speaker 7: I don't think she likes that.
Speaker 2: I personally don't hate it. Well, I think the way
Speaker 2: it's it's okay.
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 3: But some of the times I'm drunk at the end
Speaker 3: of the night, when it's all like it's a little
Speaker 3: bit of a it's like, how my hair looks right now,
Speaker 3: I'm my dog the bounty hunter.
Speaker 2: Well you have to I mean, no pressure, but you
Speaker 2: have to come up with a really cool haircut because
Speaker 2: you're knowing somebody on.
Speaker 3: The cast is going to be able to give him
Speaker 3: a cool They could just cut off those little tails
Speaker 3: and the mullet's gone.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, we're going to cut off the tails. Ironically,
Speaker 7: I didn't have to go to LA to film something,
Speaker 7: so I don't know what we're going to do there.
Speaker 2: But something what.
Speaker 4: If you cut off, have Andy and Amanda cut off,
Speaker 4: and then when you go to break, have your hair
Speaker 4: person there and then come out with a totally different hairstyle,
Speaker 4: something really cool.
Speaker 7: Oh but I want to be talking ship during the break.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can talk ship while you're getting your hair.
Speaker 7: That's true. I think what I want to do. I
Speaker 7: have to like basically leave some room for some extensions
Speaker 7: and filming a commercial on Tuesday, and they once around
Speaker 7: my muet. Oh god, I'm already gonna regret cutting this thing.
Speaker 7: But then I'm open to suggestion. So if you guys
Speaker 7: have any pictures of some some hairstyles that should influence
Speaker 7: my decision making, I'm all yours you need to get.
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Speaker 2: would look good.
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Speaker 7: I'll have you put your thinking cap.
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