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Speaker 1: It's not always easy to come in and be that

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Speaker 2: But you did it. You did it effortless.

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Speaker 4: You know they kind of paying me a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: Next Man Up. There's a newcomer this year, but boy,

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Speaker 1: he looks like he's been here for years because of

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Speaker 1: how comfortable he looks, because of how he's elevated everybody

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Speaker 2: I got Javon kemlaw. What's up, brother?

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Speaker 4: What's happening?

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Speaker 2: Hey brother? It's cool man.

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Speaker 1: It's it's crazy to sit here with you like I

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Speaker 1: see you all the time walking around. But we haven't

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Speaker 1: a lot's changed since then.

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Speaker 2: So first things first, how you doing, man? How's it been?

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Speaker 4: I'm a excellent brother, you know, and loving it, enjoying

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Speaker 4: my time here. Just happy to be somewhere. Everybody believe

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Speaker 4: They built this They built this thing up the right way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you saw all the people believing in you.

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, we spoke to him yesterday. He has had

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Speaker 1: nothing but great things to say about you. And it's

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Speaker 1: mostly because of how quickly you immerse yourself in what

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Speaker 2: We already had some good things going last year.

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Speaker 1: It's not always easy to come in and be that

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Speaker 1: new guy or play somebody else, but you did it,

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Speaker 4: You know, they kind of pay me a lot of money,

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Speaker 4: so I gotta do what I gotta do, bro Noa.

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Speaker 4: But man, I take pride in my learning curve and

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Speaker 4: I just quick, you know, I ad just on the fly,

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Speaker 4: and that's what I do, and that's what's got me

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Speaker 1: What about this system has made it a little easier

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Speaker 4: Well, we do a couple of different things schematically, but

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Speaker 4: most of the time it's what I've always been used

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Speaker 4: to just penetrating, getting off the ball, causing havoc, cleaning

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Speaker 4: things up for other guys. But they got me playing

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Speaker 4: a lot of defensive end this year and it's new,

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Speaker 4: but I mean it's still the same thing, you know,

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Speaker 4: I love being able to play here, play there, you know,

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Speaker 4: so they can't really try to zone in on me

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Speaker 1: And sometimes new things, especially during a new position, can

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Speaker 1: it could also be really exciting. And I feel like

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a guy in my size, so it's like,

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Speaker 4: and you got to really focus on your path. Level

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Speaker 4: but WHEN i get out, there It's god's my, side

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Speaker 4: so it's, like, okay bet SO i KNOW i can

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Speaker 1: Way it's funny use the worst. Size BECAUSE i was

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Speaker 1: talking To Darron pain about getting to play with. YOU

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Speaker 1: i think we're only like two weeks, in and he,

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Speaker 4: Big, well just playing next TO, dp it's been it's

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Speaker 4: that's always good to play next to a guy like,

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Speaker 1: Time that'spend was really dope about watching y'all play this,

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Speaker 1: Together And Dan quick, said he, said these guys are

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Speaker 4: It means a, lot, bro knowing he gonna go out

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Speaker 4: Know and it's been, Awesome, Bro it's been. Awesome. MAN

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Speaker 1: SURE i think we're all hoping. That, man we love

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Speaker 1: you and The burgny and. Go we don't want to

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Speaker 4: Well, oh, bro he gonna make a lot of. Money,

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Speaker 4: bro just watching. Him super, explosive one of the more

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Speaker 4: crazy if you're really watching. Them he's just, different, Man

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Speaker 4: he's just. Different and his role was kind of similar

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Speaker 4: to minds where you're coming, out you're going through some,

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Speaker 4: he's done a heck of a job doing that with

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Speaker 4: him being a younger, guy super, YOUNG i think probably

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Speaker 4: loving playing next to him. Too he's another guy that's

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Speaker 1: you look at a guy In dren's, Armstrong, man what

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Speaker 2: Deserves can you just speak on what you've.

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Speaker 1: Seen From durrance this, year because what he's, doing he's

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Speaker 4: Percent And i've always Watched, durrance even when he was

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Speaker 4: Well and, man it's just been a blessing to be

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Speaker 1: That all you guys are very. Versatile y'all show that

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Speaker 1: last week against The. Charges, man what a defensive. Effort

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Speaker 1: it's not every day you see somebody come out the

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Speaker 1: Yourselves what's that Conversation Joe wits having calling, down letting

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Speaker 1: you guys, know, like how do y'all make those adjustments

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Speaker 4: Quarters, WELL i, mean you just got to lock in, internally.

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Speaker 4: Bro AND i see some, guys you, know when we

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Speaker 4: ON i hear some of the conversations guys talking about,

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Speaker 1: Sure and even hearing you talk right, now you can

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Speaker 1: Line you're really somebody that everybody is looking at to

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Speaker 1: really set that. Tone is that a new position for, you,

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Speaker 2: Yourself has this been a journey getting to be that?

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Speaker 1: asked to be a. LEADER i know you have a

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Speaker 4: Team i've always been a tone, setter even from being,

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Speaker 4: know somebody got to kick this. Off and just being

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Speaker 4: OR i just know WHAT i need to do out

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Speaker 4: there to you, know get the fire. Started and you,

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Speaker 4: know it's been a blessing that people feel as Though

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Speaker 4: i'm a leader on this. Team you, KNOW i definitely

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Speaker 4: didn't come into it thinking that that was going to

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Speaker 4: fit in while you know WHERE i. Can and it's

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Speaker 1: Well every Person i've spoke to on the defensive, line

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Speaker 1: that's a, Veteran i've asked them about that mentorship in

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Speaker 1: of game that they're. Giving and one thing has always been.

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Speaker 1: Doing those things to wind, down to, relax to get some. Downtime,

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Speaker 2: You can have? It on quarterbacks and running?

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Speaker 1: Point it seems like right, now If i'm, speaking it

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Speaker 1: Sure oh, yeah, Man we're happy to be a part

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Speaker 1: Right we like to talk about the, person the person

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Speaker 1: ago in the fourteenth round of THE Nfl, draft your

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Speaker 5: True well it to give you an honest appraisal of my.

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Speaker 5: CAREER i grew up In, Ecuador South, america in the

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Speaker 5: Go he sent me a contract FOR i think it

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00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,840
Speaker 5: was nineteen thousand, dollars AND i signed on with The

436
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,120
Speaker 5: Washington redskins and ended up WHEN i got to camp

437
00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,240
Speaker 5: there was nine other kickers THAT i had to beat

438
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,720
Speaker 5: it out AND i ended up winning the, job and

439
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 5: the rest is.

440
00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,600
Speaker 2: History, Wow, mark what a.

441
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,800
Speaker 1: Story and you're, right the rest is, history and the

442
00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,400
Speaker 1: rest is honestly some of the best history.

443
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,680
Speaker 2: We have here in The Burgundian.

444
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,639
Speaker 1: Gold so let's run it back real, quick because you

445
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,119
Speaker 1: mentioned that time where you were cut and then you

446
00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,480
Speaker 1: were looking for a. Job, now during the research of,

447
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,600
Speaker 1: THIS i don't know if this is. True you could

448
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,480
Speaker 1: let me. KNOW i read that you had sent, letters,

449
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,360
Speaker 1: written handwritten letters to teams all across the league say,

450
00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,119
Speaker 1: hey do you need a, Kicker give me a chance to.

451
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 2: Try was that?

452
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 3: True, YEP i.

453
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,600
Speaker 5: DID i sent letters and phone calls to, everybody AND

454
00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,119
Speaker 5: i got no.

455
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,439
Speaker 3: Returns George allen call me on.

456
00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,239
Speaker 5: That it was A february morning and my wife had

457
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 5: already left for work AND i was getting ready to

458
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,280
Speaker 5: go to. Work AND i mean it was a. SHOCK

459
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,920
Speaker 5: i didn't THINK i was going to get a chance.

460
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 5: Again BUT i always had confidence THAT i could do.

461
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 5: IT i knew IF i could get back, IN i

462
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,639
Speaker 5: could do, it BECAUSE i did it two years AND

463
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,159
Speaker 5: i did a fairly decent. Job AND i, just you,

464
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,080
Speaker 5: know for somebody that didn't know what he was really,

465
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,959
Speaker 5: DOING i did, okay BUT i knew what to do

466
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,880
Speaker 5: WHEN i got back in and in seventy, four WHEN

467
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 5: i came To, WORSHTON i was ready to play.

468
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: Football and that's not really something that's easy for anybody who.

469
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,680
Speaker 1: Write there's a level of humbleness that comes with taking

470
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 1: the time to write a letter and send it out and, saying,

471
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 1: hey give me a. Shot when you look back at

472
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 1: the young man that did, that then what drove? That

473
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: because you could have, said you know, What, HEY i

474
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 1: did two, Years i'm, done but you felt a need

475
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 1: to get back into THE. Nfl where did that need come?

476
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: From and how tough was that? Period BECAUSE i got

477
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 1: to imagine while you're sending these letters out eting nobody's

478
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: RESPOND i gotta imagine that is hell on a young.

479
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 3: Man yeah it was, discouraging there's no doubt about.

480
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 5: That but LIKE i, SAID i always had confidence WHAT

481
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 5: i was doing and WHAT i could, do AND i

482
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,919
Speaker 5: knew THAT i COULD i could, compete and THAT i

483
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 5: could kick in THE. Nfl after those first two, SEASONS

484
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 5: i just needed the opportunity AND i was fortunate THAT

485
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 5: i had a great mom and dad that supported me

486
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 5: and we're always there and we're always encouraging all through those.

487
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 5: Years my dad was a very intelligent, man AS i,

488
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 5: said had his doctor in, agriculture but was it just

489
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 5: had a lot of common sense and he always, said

490
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 5: anything worth having is worth working. For and SO i

491
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 5: spent those two years THAT i was out of football

492
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 5: really working. Hard AND i came back in in seventy

493
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,479
Speaker 5: four about twenty pounds, heavier with solid, muscle AND i

494
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 5: was kicking the ball really. Well AND i MEAN i

495
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 5: did some crazy things to work out back in those.

496
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 5: DAYS i was, young had excuse the express a lot

497
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 5: of pisson, vinegar and SO i was willing to do

498
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 5: just about anything to get myself in shape and to

499
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 5: get stronger and be there if the opportunity, CAME i

500
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 5: was going to take advantage of. It and that's exactly

501
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 5: what WHAT i did WHEN i came here in seventy.

502
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 1: Four what were some of those unique things you were

503
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: doing to get yourself back? Right what were some of

504
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: those unique workouts you were, doing because, hey if it

505
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: worked for you and it got you an EVENTUAL, MVP

506
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: i think we have some kickers around the league that

507
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: if you take that advice as.

508
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 2: Well.

509
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 5: Well every DAY i was you, know being raised in

510
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 5: a small, town country. Town my father owned an international harvester,

511
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 5: business and he knew all the. Farmers SO i had

512
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 5: been bailing other farmers commercially for, years ever SINCE i

513
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 5: was in junior high, Actually and SO i was hauling

514
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 5: hay all, summer and THEN i would come in in

515
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 5: the afternoons after after hauling hay all, day and then

516
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 5: those hot barns down In texas and go up to

517
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 5: the football field and kick.

518
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: And run the. STANDS i used to.

519
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 5: Carry we didn't have these weight vests that they have,

520
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 5: Today SO i used to carry some cement blocks with

521
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 5: a towel wrapped around my, neck AND i tied them

522
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 5: onto a couple of cement, blocks AND i would run

523
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 5: up and down the stands with those cement blocks kind

524
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 5: of leaning against my, chest AND i would run those

525
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 5: for twenty thirty minutes without. Stopping THEN i would my

526
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 5: wife at the TIME i took. Her she would get

527
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 5: on my back AND i would do hundred yard wind

528
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 5: sprints with her on my back to help strengthen my.

529
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 5: Legs and then on top of, that my, dad WHEN

530
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 5: i was in high, school had taken an old car

531
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 5: frame and hooked a chain to it and put a

532
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 5: harness on, it AND i used to pull that car

533
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 5: frame up and down the hayfield behind the behind the,

534
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 5: barn and so all those things led to the, point

535
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 5: and then TOO i started hauling pulp. Wood and most

536
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 5: people out there don't understand what pulpwood, is but down

537
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 5: In East texas back in the sixties and, seventies when

538
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 5: you were hauling pulp, wood cut these five foot lengths

539
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 5: of wood and then you'd flip them onto your shoulder

540
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 5: and you'd carry them over and put them on a

541
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 5: trailer and haul them out a quarter at a. Time

542
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 5: but most of those those pieces of wood would weigh

543
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 5: anywhere from one hundred and fifty to four or five hundred,

544
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 5: pounds and you'd have to flip them on your shoulder

545
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 5: and walk over and then flip them onto a trailer

546
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 5: and then carry them out and load them on a.

547
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: Truck, WELL i did.

548
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 5: That for two off seasons my last two years of,

549
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 5: college and THEN i was doing it too WHEN i

550
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 5: was out of football those two, years and so WHEN

551
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 5: i came back IN i had some really strong. LEGS

552
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 5: i remember WHEN i first went into the into the

553
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 5: training room with the weight room with our training. Coach

554
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 5: they couldn't believe how MUCH i could. Squat AND i

555
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 5: used to work out with six, hundred six hundred and

556
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 5: twenty five pounds, squats which was really unheard. OF i

557
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 5: could outsquat all the linemen and they couldn't BELIEVE i

558
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 5: had such strong. Legs but that was just from WHAT

559
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 5: i did, physically a country boy.

560
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: Giving it up like a True southern, boy a True texas.

561
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: Guy and normally during this, PART i ask The Washington

562
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: legends what their favorite part of their.

563
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: Time with The Burgundian gold.

564
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: Is BUT i got to just assume it doesn't get

565
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: much better than winning THE mvp as a place, here

566
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: especially with a shortened, season with all those things going,

567
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: On can you take us back there to that season

568
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: where you're on this, run where you're just hitting this

569
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: streak of field goals where it seems like you cannot.

570
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: Miss can you bring.

571
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: Us back to?

572
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 5: That, well, yeah that was an unusual. YEAR i was

573
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 5: supposed to not be on the team that YEAR i.

574
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: Had they had drafted happy For Mike, flater who was

575
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 5: a kicker FOR i think My university Of. Miami they

576
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 5: brought him in to compete against. Me and they thought

577
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 5: they were BECAUSE i. WAS i was thirty three that

578
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 5: year and they were trying to replace. Me but Coach

579
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 5: gibbs was still in my, corner AND i just for some,

580
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 5: REASON i was just was that at the right time

581
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 5: in my. CAREER i really felt. Confident every kick THAT

582
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 5: i went out there to, KICK i felt LIKE i

583
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 5: was going to. MAKE i never thought about. Missing BUT

584
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 5: i was. STRONG i was at my strongest. Point you,

585
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 5: know they kicked sixty yard field goals today with. Ease

586
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: back in our, day if you kicked any fifty yard field,

587
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 5: goals that was. UNUSUAL i remember one YEAR i got

588
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 5: a letter from Coach allen congratulating me on making more

589
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 5: fifty yard field goals than the rest of the league put,

590
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 5: together WHICH i made eight that. Year and so it,

591
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 5: was you, know for, me that year just came at

592
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 5: the right. TIME i was, ready and it so happened

593
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 5: that almost every game came to where they needed. Me

594
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 5: Against Saint, LOUIS i actually we won twelve to nine

595
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 5: on my four field goals In Saint, louis and you,

596
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 5: know so there WERE i, think IF i remember, CORRECTLY

597
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 5: i think the team scored one hundred and twenty eight

598
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 5: points in those in those nine games that we, played

599
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 5: AND i scored seventy eight of. Them, so, uh you,

600
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: know it was just one of those times when you feel,

601
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 5: good everything's in, place everything happens just.

602
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: Right and it so happened that that.

603
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 5: Year was a year that they really needed a kicker

604
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 5: that was going to be able to go out there

605
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 5: in those last seconds and win the game for him.

606
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: And in today's, game AN nfl, fan even a person

607
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: in my, position, right If i'm talking to somebody AND i, say,

608
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: hey this kicker won THE, mvp it's, unhurt it's unheard.

609
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: Of you're the only one to truly do it as

610
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: a true place. Kicker back, then when you.

611
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 5: They, left they usually, Laughed, yeah that's that's a laughable

612
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 5: moment for.

613
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: Sure did you, realize, though in the moment that it

614
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: was going to be that rare the thing you wore

615
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: accomplishing as the first and only place kicker to win

616
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: AN mvp in that time back?

617
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 6: Then did you really realize what you were? Accomplishing, NO

618
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 6: i did. NOT i never even DREAMED i was going

619
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 6: to do. THAT i never even thought about it UNTIL

620
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 6: i got a phone call from the from THE nfl

621
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 6: stating THAT i was in the final five for THE

622
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: NFL mvp, award AND i, said you got to be.

623
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 5: KIDNEYED i didn't even KNOW i was up back. Then

624
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 5: it wasn't it was a big. Deal but it WASN'T

625
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 5: i guess that big of a deal because you never got. Anything,

626
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 5: TODAY i. DON'T i do not have a. TROPHY i

627
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 5: don't have a. LETTER i don't have anything that says

628
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 5: other THAN i have matted and framed a copy of

629
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: the front page of The Washington post saying THAT i

630
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 5: was voted the NFL's. Mvp that's the only thing that my,

631
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 5: grandkids that's the only thing they're going to have to

632
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 5: know that their grandfather was THE NFL, mvp BECAUSE i

633
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 5: don't have anything to prove.

634
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: It that is that's WHY i got a phone. CALL

635
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: i didn't, insane.

636
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Because you would, think like, today, right you could reach

637
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: out to somebody in the league and get a, trophy get,

638
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: something especially as the only placekicker to WIN. MVP i

639
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: had no idea that was a. Thing, Mark And i'm

640
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: sure that is a Very eastern conversation to have with

641
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: the grand.

642
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 5: Kids oh, yeah now today THE mvp is getting they

643
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 5: get A i think they get a. Car they Get

644
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: most people have it in their, contracts you, know for

645
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 5: bonuses for anythings that they. DO i didn't even have

646
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 5: that in my. CONTRACT i didn't have anything for. BONUSES

647
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 5: i had some bonuses FOR uh setting. Records that's the

648
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 5: only thing THAT i was gonna supposedly get FOR uh

649
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 5: setting BECAUSE i broke FIVE nfl records that year AND

650
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: uh BUT i got nothing for it because they they

651
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 5: didn't want to pay me for. Them they kind of

652
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 5: claimed that they weren't because every TIME i kicked another field,

653
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 5: GOAL i set a new record ONCE i broke the original,

654
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: record and THEN i had a couple of other records

655
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 5: THAT i broke that, year and and BUT i never

656
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 5: got paid for.

657
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: Him.

658
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 5: Wow that is so it ended up the. Biggest the

659
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: biggest bonus THAT i got that year was From. NIKE

660
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 5: i had that was my first, year, no it was

661
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: it was my second year to be on The Nike

662
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 5: All Pro. Team and in that contract for any setting

663
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 5: any records or Being All pro or anything OR, mvp

664
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: there was a twenty thousand dollars bonus THAT i Got

665
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 5: and that was the only bonus THAT i got that

666
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: year for being THE NFL, mvp and that was vhoted

667
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 5: on by my teammates on The nike all.

668
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: Protein, wow those are THINGS i think when you look,

669
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: back especially somebody like me who's from a different, generation

670
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: you don't realize those things that people have to do

671
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: when they're a pioneer of, something because that's what you, are,

672
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Right you are the pioneer for all. Kickers you are

673
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: the benchmark because you were able to accomplish something that

674
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: had never been done before and still hasn't been done

675
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: to this. Day AND i think it's very impressive but

676
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: also very hard and sometimes thinkless when you're the first

677
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: to do something.

678
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: Mark SO i think that is just, wild no, trophy no.

679
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: Anything but, again it doesn't take away from all the

680
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: things you've.

681
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: Accomplished THEN i THE. Mvp oh no you're, Good, no you're,

682
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: good all the things go, ahead go, ahead go.

683
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: Ahead.

684
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: YEAH i appreciate the confidence and your comments. There it

685
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 5: does for. ME i never really thought about it WHEN

686
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 5: i was playing of WHAT i was doing or WHAT

687
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 5: i had, accomplished other THAN i was proud BECAUSE i

688
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 5: never wanted to let my teammates. Down that was the

689
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: one thing THAT i learned early on in my life

690
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 5: was that it's a team. Sport nobody is a team

691
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 5: on its, own no matter how good you, are what

692
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 5: position you. Play AND i always never wanted to let

693
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 5: my team. Down and that's why a couple of years,

694
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 5: ago a sports writer who was writing a book called

695
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 5: me and was doing an interview with, me and you,

696
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: SAID i did some, research and you, SAID i found

697
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 5: out that that during your, career you went out forty

698
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: four times in the last two minutes of a game

699
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: to win that game with a field, goal and you

700
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 5: made forty three of. Them the one that you missed

701
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 5: was Against Green bay after you had kicked five field

702
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: goals and you missed a field goal that would have

703
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 5: won we were lost the game forty seven to forty.

704
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 5: Five that was A monday night game Against Green. Bay

705
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 5: and that's the only one THAT i missed in my.

706
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 5: Career so you, know that's What i'm more proud of

707
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 5: than anything, else and THAT i didn't let my. Team

708
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 5: AND i, REMEMBER i remember being in the locker room

709
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 5: AFTER i after that game was over with AND i

710
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 5: just couldn't believe, it AND i. COULDN'T i was so

711
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 5: disappointed BECAUSE i felt LIKE i had really let my team.

712
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 5: Down AND i remember sitting in a corner AND i

713
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 5: still hadn't taken off my helmet or my shoulder, pads

714
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 5: AND i was bent down on my knees on the

715
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 5: in a, corner and all of a, sudden somebody yank

716
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 5: grabbed me by the shoulder pads and yanked me.

717
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: Up and it was my, Roommate Dave. Butts And dave

718
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: AND i were like.

719
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: Brothers And butsy looked at me and he said mostly he,

720
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 5: said get your butt off the. Floor said it was

721
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: just a. Kick we'll get it next. Week and after

722
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: THAT i was. Fine and you, KNOW i realized that

723
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 5: the team knew BECAUSE i WORKED i wasn't your typical kicker.

724
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: Back THEN i used to work out with the. TEAM

725
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 5: i WOULD i was a quarterback in, college so coach

726
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 5: the coaches would let me run quarterback. PLAYS i would

727
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 5: run quarterback plays against our defense every and during.

728
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: PRACTICE i would study the.

729
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 5: Game plan for for our, defense and THEN i would

730
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 5: run the opposing team's plays during, practice and, uh and

731
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 5: THEN i would you, KNOW i was always doing. SOMETHING

732
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 5: i wasn't one of those guys that would go in.

733
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 5: EARLY i stayed out every, practice made SURE i was,

734
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 5: running doing something physical to make sure the team knew

735
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 5: that IF i did miss the field, goal it wasn't

736
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 5: BECAUSE i wasn't. PREPARED i wasn't ready to do, it

737
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 5: and AND i AND i just always felt that.

738
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: Way and so for, me.

739
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: It was just natural for me to feel bad WHEN

740
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 5: i missed one because that was the only, one AND

741
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: i didn't really know how to handle.

742
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: It said like a true, champion worried about your, teammates

743
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: worried about not letting them. Down And, MARK i have

744
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: to imagine that every teammate that played what you would, Say, Oh,

745
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: mark never let us.

746
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: Down we were able to trust you and this motivation you.

747
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: Have, Right, yeah maybe it came a little bit from

748
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: those que girls at home, coming but it sounds like

749
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: from you talking to me now that your father was

750
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: a big piece of your. Inspiration, Now, MARK i wasn't

751
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: around back, then SO i have to, ask was your

752
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: father alive still when you won YOUR, mvp when you

753
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: won Your Super?

754
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Bowl he?

755
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 5: Was he was. Around, yes my mom and dad were still.

756
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 5: Alive as a matter of, FACT i took them. ALL

757
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 5: i got to The Pro bowl that year In. HAWAII

758
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 5: i took my mom And dad AND i took my

759
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 5: aunt and, uncle who was my dad's only sister and

760
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 5: her husband To hawaii that, year and it was a

761
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 5: really big year of our, family and because my. SISTER

762
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 5: i don't know if you even knew, this but in

763
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy, nine my sister had been murdered by a

764
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: guy that broke into her home and beat her to

765
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 5: death and killed her and raped her and for no

766
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 5: READ i, mean just some guy that had been out

767
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: of prison for a couple of weeks for raping three other,

768
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 5: women and they let him out and the next thing you,

769
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 5: know he you, know he broke into her house and

770
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 5: and raped her one morning after her husband had left for.

771
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: Work And mom And dad had really been struggling those

772
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 5: couple of, years and.

773
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: This was the year that really brought our family. BACK i.

774
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 5: Remember it almost brings tears to my eyes thinking about.

775
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 5: It BUT i Remember mom And dad talking about how

776
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: how proud they were that we as a family were

777
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: able to stay, together uh and to get through, that

778
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 5: and that was a big year for the whole.

779
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: Family, MARK i am so sorry for that. Loss i'm really.

780
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: SORRY i, MEAN i know that was a long time, ago, However,

781
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: yeah it never depend doesn't go, away especially something so

782
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: awful like.

783
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: That, yeah and it. Was it was during the season

784
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: and we were getting ready to.

785
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 5: PLAY i was at practice when when my dad called

786
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 5: the park and talked to. Coach uh to the, coach

787
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 5: and he came out on the field and got me.

788
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 5: OFF i had already gone out the field to warm

789
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 5: up and do my field goals and stuff before, practice

790
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 5: and he came out and got, me AND i went

791
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 5: up and got on the phone And dad told me

792
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 5: that was on A. THURSDAY i flew out that. Night

793
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 5: we had the Funeral saturday, morning And dad and them were.

794
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: Ready they they had already booked me a flight back

795
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 5: For Saturday saturday night BECAUSE.

796
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: I knew he Knew mom And dad KNEW i had

797
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: to get.

798
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 5: BACK i needed to get back for the game because

799
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 5: back then we didn't carry another, kicker and SO i

800
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 5: needed to get back for the. GAME i landed Late saturday,

801
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: night And sunday morning we PLAYED i think it Was

802
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: New orleans that, game AND i remember almost playing it

803
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 5: in like a cloud that was over me BECAUSE i

804
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 5: just didn't REALLY i, didn't you, KNOW i was not

805
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 5: in my full mindset to be.

806
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: Playing BUT i KNEW i couldn't let the team, down.

807
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: And marku's WHY i appreciate being able to have these

808
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: conversations with you all BECAUSE i don't think fans always

809
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: understand what the man is going through while accomplishing all these.

810
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: Things and to.

811
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Know you were carrying, this to know you were dealing

812
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: with all of this while making history while becoming the

813
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: all time leading scorer For, washington it's even more impressive

814
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: that you were able to do. That and to, me

815
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: WHEN i look back at the things you talk about

816
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: with your father and being able to share all of

817
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: these moments with, HIM i got to imagine those got

818
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: even more special after the tragedy that you all, faced

819
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: getting to be able to share a dream that not

820
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: only you, had but he had for you as.

821
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: Well then you talk.

822
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: About, playing talk about going into that game because you

823
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: knew you had to, play you knew the only kicker.

824
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: There AND i know some people be.

825
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: Like oh, man that's so, tough BUT i got to

826
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: imagine football was the escape That Mark moseley needed at that.

827
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 5: Time, yes it kind of, was and it wasn't until

828
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 5: after the season was over when it really hit. Me

829
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: but it was because that was a banner, year and

830
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 5: that was my first really big, year my first probo

831
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: year THAT i you, know WHEN i really brusted out

832
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 5: and began feeling the confidence that made me WHO i.

833
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 5: Was but you're right About mom And, dad they were

834
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: both of My dad was a huge influence in my,

835
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 5: life and he was one of those guys that was always.

836
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 5: POSITIVE i remember him saying if something breaks, down that

837
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 5: there's nothing that can't be. Fixed all you got to

838
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 5: do is sit down and figure out how it's put

839
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 5: together and then fix, it you. Know and so you,

840
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 5: know in, life there was nothing that you couldn't you

841
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: couldn't figure out how to how to either win it

842
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: or defeat it, somehow and SO i always kept.

843
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: That that's WHY i think in my early, YEARS i

844
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: never gave.

845
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: Up you, KNOW i was cut by six different teams

846
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: right at the beginning to make it there BEFORE i

847
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 5: made it In washington in seventy, four and so it

848
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: was it makes you, proud but it also makes you

849
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: humble and you appreciate what you get when you do

850
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: get those those kind of. Accolades and for, me it

851
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 5: was just a banner time and a proud. Time and

852
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 5: now you, Know i've and in the last thirty something,

853
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 5: years you, KNOW i had my own businesses AFTER i

854
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 5: retired from, football and then i've BEEN i just retired

855
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 5: from Five guys after twenty four, years AND i helped

856
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 5: to build a great company with Five. Guys we went

857
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 5: from three stores WHEN i started over two thousand now

858
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 5: that we have all over the. World so AND i

859
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 5: WAS i had the opportunity to be a big part

860
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 5: of that growth and to help build that.

861
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: Company So i've been very fortunate in my.

862
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: Life i've been able to take a lot of a

863
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 5: lot of, controversy a lot of bad. Things you, know

864
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 5: you don't go through a career with having some. Downtimes

865
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 5: and there were a few years there WHERE i didn't

866
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 5: like the WAY i.

867
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: FINISHED i wanted to finish, stronger.

868
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 5: Especially the last year THAT i was In washington WHEN

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Speaker 5: eighty six AND i ended up going To. CLEVELAND i

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Speaker 5: missed six games of this, year but it was called

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Speaker 5: The cleveland my LAST i think it was the last seven.

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Speaker 5: Games and out of those last seven games that we,

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Speaker 5: PLAYED i won four of them.

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Speaker 3: With field goals for. Them and then after THAT i.

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Speaker 5: Retired we went to THE Fc championship against Against denver

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Speaker 5: and that was the, drive the L way, drive and.

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Speaker 3: SO i was able to finish on a good. Note

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Speaker 3: but you, know my.

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Speaker 5: CAREER i look back at my career AND i CAN

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Speaker 5: i can take pride in WHAT i did BECAUSE I

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Speaker 5: i was one of those guys that was one hundred

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Speaker 5: per team player AND i believed in my.

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Speaker 3: TEAMMATES i love my. Teammates even.

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Speaker 5: TODAY i still am very, in very much contact with

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Speaker 5: all of my former teammates and, players AND i try

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Speaker 5: to keep up with.

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Speaker 3: Them And I've i've been fortunate in the afterlife.

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Speaker 5: Of a football THAT i could help and so with

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Speaker 5: some of them that have not been as fortunate AS i,

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Speaker 5: have and and so it's been it's been a good.

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Speaker 5: Life And I'm i'm very proud to be able and

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Speaker 5: to count myself as a commander slash Red skin for

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Speaker 5: all these. Years And i'll always be a Red skin

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Speaker 5: until they start throwing dirt my.

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Speaker 3: Face and you, Know I've i've loved our. Fans believe,

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Speaker 3: me our.

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Speaker 5: Fans ARE i don't care what people say about some

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Speaker 5: of these other. Teams we have the greatest fans in

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Speaker 5: the world and they never forget. You it doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: WHERE i. Go now people know, me you, know and

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Speaker 5: they all pat me on the back and thank me

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Speaker 5: for the CAREER i.

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Speaker 3: Had so they're great, Fans.

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Speaker 2: Mark the best fans in THE.

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Speaker 1: Nfl you're not going to get an argument from, me

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Speaker 1: but you also earned that respect with this fan. Base

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Speaker 1: you also earned that praise and hearing this story right,

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Speaker 1: now all the things you were overcoming off the, field

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Speaker 1: the things you were dealing with on the field to

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Speaker 1: stay on the, FIELD i hope the fans have even

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Speaker 1: more appreciation For Mark moseley than they did before this. Episode,

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Speaker 1: mark we appreciate you so. MUCH i have no doubt

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Speaker 1: both you your parents are proud of. YOU i have

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Speaker 1: no doubt that your sister was with you on that

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Speaker 1: field when you were making history time and time. Again,

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Speaker 1: mark thank you so much for sharing your story because

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Speaker 1: these stories can help so many, people whether they're, athletes

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Speaker 1: whether it is regular everyday. People And, mark thank you

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Speaker 1: so much Because i'm. Inspired now know The commander's fans are,

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Speaker 1: inspired and like you, said forever a.

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Speaker 2: Redskin they can't take.

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Speaker 1: That commanders, fans we hope you've enjoyed this episode Of

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Speaker 1: Next Man. Up you can stream all of The Next

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Speaker 1: Man up, episodes even last, seasons on The commander's YouTube,

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Speaker 1: page or stream the audio wherever you get your. Podcast

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Speaker 1: we appreciate the love so. Much we will see Y'all monday.

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Speaker 1: Night put some primetime action against The Chicago. Bears make

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Speaker 1: sure to do what y'all do, best show up and

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Speaker 1: show out for our. Commanders until next week it is

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Speaker 1: The Next Man.

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