Speaker 1: Bootleg Cat Podcasts special guests Caskie and he brought Tasty
Speaker 1: with him. Let's get it in the kitchen. You guys
Speaker 1: definitely are inseparable at this point. All right, man, we
Speaker 1: got a formula that's working right now. Welcome, Thank you, Bro,
Speaker 1: glad to be here. You've been ducking the show for
Speaker 1: two years? Have I been dug in? I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm just hard to get a hold of. I've I've
Speaker 1: you've recorded here, like, I don't know how about a
Speaker 1: thousand times strict COVID restrictions here? I had no COVID restriction.
Speaker 1: We're the only studio in LA with zero. Coach just
Speaker 1: busted out in the interview when I was recording one
Speaker 1: time I got it in. Yeah, that saw how things work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm bad. I'm bad at schedules anyway, man, welcome, how's
Speaker 1: everything well? First of all, you announced the new album
Speaker 1: YEP this Friday, coming out Friday for twenty nine nobody
Speaker 1: album drops. Uh, So you've been working on a lot
Speaker 1: of music. You tease, like a project called Jaws YEP,
Speaker 1: and then this album comes like what's cool? Yeah? I like,
Speaker 1: none of my fans should ever listen to me when
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what's coming out next, because I you know,
Speaker 1: I switches up on me every day, all right. I
Speaker 1: kind of got like ten ideas constantly brewing in my brain,
Speaker 1: like albums that I'm working on. So like Jaws was
Speaker 1: the project that I got all my producers on, Like
Speaker 1: I pretty much got like six guys that been my
Speaker 1: go to guys, including Chalk. Now, so Jaws is like
Speaker 1: the project with everybody on it, and it's turning out. Also, honestly,
Speaker 1: it's like half done right now. It's sick, but it's
Speaker 1: just like it's hard to get seven dudes from different
Speaker 1: parts of the country, you know, and and Locke lives
Speaker 1: in Germany now, so oh shit, Jaws put on hold,
Speaker 1: Like I think we're gonna do second session in May,
Speaker 1: but yeah, nobody like me and Tasty record Demni every day,
Speaker 1: so nobody was like, let's let's give him some crack.
Speaker 1: You knock it out quickly, not really, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's been about six months. Some of the
Speaker 1: records are like yes, some are brand new, but some yeah,
Speaker 1: about six months. Because last year you did you put
Speaker 1: out the project with Chalk find Our and the Wolf Project,
Speaker 1: and then you're the Wolf Collab project and then you
Speaker 1: put out like one hundred dollars mixtape. Yeah we did that,
Speaker 1: which was you sold a thousand of them rights and copies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: real Nipsey hustle, like man, shout out Nipsey to go.
Speaker 1: You sold? So was it all? They were all on
Speaker 1: USB's right now. We did. We did like eight hundred
Speaker 1: physical CDs and like two hundred USBs or something like that.
Speaker 1: So nice little hundred thousand dollars come up. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: could say that, how like how did you decide what
Speaker 1: to put on the how did you decide what to
Speaker 1: put on the one hundred dollars project? But like the
Speaker 1: original idea behind it was like, you know, as an artist,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of music, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, for managing artists is like we record hundreds
Speaker 1: of songs and almost that nobody will ever hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it's really dope, you know. So
Speaker 1: the kind of the idea is like we still wanted
Speaker 1: to work on this album, like still working on Nobody,
Speaker 1: still working on Jaws. But I don't know, we were
Speaker 1: just like, man, what's a way that we could like
Speaker 1: really give people these records that I don't know if
Speaker 1: they'll come out for you know, another year or whatever,
Speaker 1: and so we just like, I don't know, we put
Speaker 1: our heads together. The one hundred Dollar mixege was twenty
Speaker 1: five songs, so twenty five records. Are they never ever
Speaker 1: going to be on DSPs? And nobody and nobody's uploaded
Speaker 1: it online because I wrote everybody a letter, Like all
Speaker 1: thousand came with this typewriter letter from me that was
Speaker 1: just basically explaining to them that this was like a
Speaker 1: sacrifice to the creative gods. You know, it's like twenty
Speaker 1: five records I put hours in that I'm not going
Speaker 1: to put out. They're just for the fans, and no
Speaker 1: one's leaked. One's leaked it. I still looking at it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, we got the coolest fans man. Everybody real.
Speaker 1: They asked me before they play it for their friends,
Speaker 1: they'll DM me and be like, bro, can I show
Speaker 1: my homie the table? I'm like, yeah, that's crazy quick
Speaker 1: hunting Bag one hundred thousand, it's a nice coming, man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was great. Me and Tasty has been
Speaker 1: figuring out how to get the bag independent. I feel
Speaker 1: like we've been pretty creative. Yeah, I mean Yeah, for
Speaker 1: artists who are watching this, like, what are some of
Speaker 1: the things that you have figured out when it I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you do features, and I love how you address
Speaker 1: some of those artists that you do features for on
Speaker 1: fine art, I said, I said. I never what I said.
Speaker 1: I never sold out just to I never made music
Speaker 1: just to make it deal. Except for every feature that
Speaker 1: I ever did trying to only be a rapper and
Speaker 1: pay the bills. But shout out them rappers. They kept
Speaker 1: it alive. I hope they'll thrive and win. My feature
Speaker 1: price too high, you never could buy it again. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, like I really do appreciate all the artist
Speaker 1: you know. I know some people maybe look at the
Speaker 1: features and it's like these some of these people ain't
Speaker 1: on your level. But like, I don't know, it's all
Speaker 1: practice for me and feed the family, come with the bag,
Speaker 1: happy to get it. Bro. Yeah, I've seen a few
Speaker 1: guys you've done songs with and I'm like, hm, I
Speaker 1: don't discriminate. The money's blue. I'm in there. The money's blue.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it like take away from my
Speaker 1: brand because I just I make so much music and
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm coming every time, Like every single
Speaker 1: one of those features, they gotta fucking they got a
Speaker 1: ten out of ten verse so and there's always that
Speaker 1: respect like for up and coming artists, no matter how
Speaker 1: good they are or whatever, and I just like get
Speaker 1: it somewhere. Yeah, Like that was my first, like I first,
Speaker 1: my first foot in the industry was a paid features actually,
Speaker 1: Jelly bro that was the first and the only feature
Speaker 1: I bought, and that was like my foot in. So
Speaker 1: well you're with that, like twenty twelve, twenty twelve, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually highlights saw me last night and showed me
Speaker 1: a video of me and Jelly from fucking nine years ago.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's so crazy because I first met
Speaker 1: Jelly in twenty fourteen thirteen. Yeah, he was a I
Speaker 1: picked him, Like, I hope he's not mad at me
Speaker 1: for saying this, but I pat him for like two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars firs. He was like, man, fuck it,
Speaker 1: he fucked with my managers. He's like, shit, paid for
Speaker 1: my studio time and I'll come do it. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that was like my first like foot in I guess
Speaker 1: to the game was that before cash Money yeh, pre
Speaker 1: cast money, the song thatver even came out. It was
Speaker 1: called day No. It was like, bro, I'm in a
Speaker 1: triple X white tea riding in these donks in Florida
Speaker 1: and shit, it was so you put out a mixtape
Speaker 1: and make one hundred thousand dollars selling a thousand copies allegedly, Well,
Speaker 1: everyone's got to get paid off. Allegedly, we made a
Speaker 1: hundred racks. You'll do some features. What are the other
Speaker 1: things you're doing to show stream I mean streaming bag
Speaker 1: is we're making beats to you, guys are making beats
Speaker 1: too Tasty taught me that he'd make a crazy bag
Speaker 1: off of beats, and like he's been teaching me production
Speaker 1: here and there and ship. So we put a beat
Speaker 1: tape together out we made I'll tell you after the show,
Speaker 1: you're druck in the high r s. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a chunk. So we made good money out there as streams.
Speaker 1: I mean the Wolf the Wolf album increased me in
Speaker 1: his pocket is about double. That Wolf album was a
Speaker 1: nice little game changer for you. You feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out the Yellow Wolf. I just want to say
Speaker 1: he's the only and the realist artist for being one
Speaker 1: of the few that like gave me public love. But
Speaker 1: also put a bag in my pocket. You know. Besides Berdman,
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ever done that, So he's real for that
Speaker 1: big bag. Yeah, and he doesn't work with like anyone. No. Hell,
Speaker 1: we've been waiting for him and Rich to put a
Speaker 1: project out for like twelve years, and I wonder that
Speaker 1: I haven't. It's never gonna happen. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: part two, that'll be fire. He's you know, he's in
Speaker 1: his rock mode in the album. Well, but at some
Speaker 1: point when it's Ness said, you know, every time I
Speaker 1: send him a record, he'd be like, man, we took
Speaker 1: the lead on those songs. I took the lead as
Speaker 1: far as I chose all the beats like Tasty Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like we pretty much read Tastey's house picking beats out
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. So I came with like
Speaker 1: the creative direction as far as like beats and like
Speaker 1: what you know, I kind of thought directions were gonna
Speaker 1: be But I mean, as far as the records go,
Speaker 1: it was pretty much even like Wolf the intro. Wolf
Speaker 1: wrote his very right when I played on the beat.
Speaker 1: He wrote that shit in about ten minutes. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like Wolf really brought the bars out of
Speaker 1: him he turned up. So it was pretty I mean
Speaker 1: it's pretty even as far as like the writing and
Speaker 1: shit went. But he kind of like gave me the
Speaker 1: go to to just kind of forefront the direction of you.
Speaker 1: I feel like lyrically you had your sharpest year last
Speaker 1: year because I feel like fine art was very much
Speaker 1: like a very heavy on the bars. Yeah, Like what
Speaker 1: it was was that when you know, I've been recording
Speaker 1: myself for a long time, so a lot of times
Speaker 1: you get in there kind of freestyle your vibes. But
Speaker 1: when I was in Nashville working on the Wolf album,
Speaker 1: like they record everything analog like or like through this board,
Speaker 1: you know, so like no presets on your vocals, so
Speaker 1: I kind of just had to get back into like
Speaker 1: my writing bag. And then it just kind of like
Speaker 1: reminded me, like I'm fucking top tier when I do that,
Speaker 1: you know, So I think fine art and that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you feel like because I feel like you'd always
Speaker 1: kind of been doing your thing independently, But I feel
Speaker 1: like from the beginning of the pandemic you had, the
Speaker 1: pandemic brought the hustle out you and never was in you.
Speaker 1: Pandemic just turned us up. What the fuck is the
Speaker 1: name of the We Ain't Scared of No Police, bitch
Speaker 1: marshal Ow. That was like, that was our biggest record.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, thats your biggest record up until
Speaker 1: the Wolf album came out, and so it's like, dang god,
Speaker 1: because like my biggest record prie of that was like
Speaker 1: a record. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did that. We did
Speaker 1: the we like we were recording here right when the
Speaker 1: Pandemic was starting to hit. Yeah, and then I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we should do a fucking pandemic theme table, came up
Speaker 1: with all the song titles, and then knocked that shit
Speaker 1: out in like two days. It's crazy because that song
Speaker 1: came out like a month or two prior to all
Speaker 1: that like civil rights stuff with the Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: and everything, so it was just we didn't play none
Speaker 1: of that. It's just you know, that was like, I
Speaker 1: feel like you were one of the first guys to
Speaker 1: put a pandemic. Everyone had a Pandemic project yeah, and
Speaker 1: had like kind of got played out at some point,
Speaker 1: But now, like, do you feel like because I feel
Speaker 1: like you've had the best two and a half years
Speaker 1: of your career since the Pandemic started or two years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is that, like my bag kind
Speaker 1: of slowed at first because you know, like the pandemic
Speaker 1: hit right when we were finishing up this tour, so
Speaker 1: like tours like a third of the bag, right, you know,
Speaker 1: as a artist you got like streams merch tour, so
Speaker 1: like I felt like a third of the bag was gone, right,
Speaker 1: and then we just I don't know, me and Tacy
Speaker 1: are addicted to money, so we're like, you know, when
Speaker 1: some stimulus sex started coming, everybody had money. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: features taking all the stimulus money. We got every rapper
Speaker 1: stimulus check now, like honestly, just it brought the focus
Speaker 1: back to the music, which was dope. And then the
Speaker 1: woof shit happened. Like I don't know, there was just
Speaker 1: a lot of like pivotal things going on in my
Speaker 1: life around that time that just all added up to that.
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Speaker 1: helped pop that record? Yeah, like Steve will do it
Speaker 1: really love that record. Yeah, it was like a lot
Speaker 1: of things, you know, the pandemic, social media, the protest video.
Speaker 1: It was just a moment. We couldn't have planned it,
Speaker 1: you know, it just happened. You got Jesse. Uh this
Speaker 1: is the second video he's been in, but this video
Speaker 1: he is like, he's like in the video, had this
Speaker 1: idea for like a minute. You know you've seen it
Speaker 1: with like the pop stuff. Yeah, that Jesse people were there.
Speaker 1: I thought that was so funny. I've been wanting to
Speaker 1: do that for a grip and Jesse and I was
Speaker 1: tossing the idea. He was down, Like I sent him
Speaker 1: the lyrics. He's like, I got this. I'm about to
Speaker 1: fucking hone him. He loves it. He want to be
Speaker 1: a rapper or something. Dude. He recorded here bro. I
Speaker 1: remember nobody was like, Yo, we should do a comedy skit.
Speaker 1: How about the skit when when he's homies in the
Speaker 1: booth and he's like, yeah, I'm just thinking like more
Speaker 1: tropical vibes. Like he's awesome that. I like. The was
Speaker 1: like Jesse, good dude. Jesse's a good dude man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, because I feel like, did you barely just
Speaker 1: meet him during the pandemic? Yeah, like I had. I
Speaker 1: met Steve will do It because he's from Ovido, which
Speaker 1: like my high school when it springs in Oviedo or
Speaker 1: like rival schools, So like we had some mutual friends
Speaker 1: and ship. I knew he was. He brought me out
Speaker 1: to the Noake Spy and then I met them and
Speaker 1: Jesse just he's on my way, dude, shout Florida Man
Speaker 1: producing Steve will do It and CASKI Bro and Mike
Speaker 1: Busey Florida characters. Bro, can you tell us about the
Speaker 1: craziest time you've had a Mike Bucy's house? Uh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I love it honestly, like every time. And what's the
Speaker 1: craziest thing you've witnessed the involved the craziest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen? Well, I just saw the story post of
Speaker 1: this lady sucking off like a thousand veteran dicks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was pretty much disgusting. You were there for. This
Speaker 1: was something you were there for. Now, I wasn't there
Speaker 1: for that craziest shit. I was there. I mean just
Speaker 1: like crazy orgies with like clowns and nidgets and shit
Speaker 1: like that. What's that smell? Like? Gross? Smells like the
Speaker 1: gathering of the Juggalos or something. It's like a trailer
Speaker 1: park playboy mansion. Yeah, shout out to Mike. My beauty
Speaker 1: is an absolute legend and honestly one of the kindest
Speaker 1: people to be big got a big hard heart, like
Speaker 1: put on for me. Just good dude, man, solid dude. Man.
Speaker 1: Let's go back. How did uh you initially end up
Speaker 1: linking with cash money? Like what? What? What was it
Speaker 1: that you were doing that? For sure? Birdman's radar super
Speaker 1: random couldn't even plan it. Like I had did this
Speaker 1: feature for this kid, uh, my homie Noel Kid famous
Speaker 1: at the time, and he was being managed by DJ Nash,
Speaker 1: who was like, yep, good dude, did we talk about
Speaker 1: DJ Nasty from Orlando? Nasty hit me up and was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I got somebody that want to check you out and
Speaker 1: shit bird Man, and so bird called me up one day.
Speaker 1: It was like, basically, just because I had did this
Speaker 1: feature record with this kid, he hadn't really heard nothing
Speaker 1: of me, and he was like, man, come to Miami,
Speaker 1: I want you to play me some records and then
Speaker 1: it was just kind of on and popping from there.
Speaker 1: Super random, super random. Birdman offers you a deal. What
Speaker 1: year was this twenty thirteen? Fuck yeah yeah twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: Ye did you even like look at the contract? I
Speaker 1: sent it off to the lawyer, but I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever it says, let's go. Like, honestly, like birded, like
Speaker 1: our relationship was different. It wasn't like all business y
Speaker 1: and you know, labels, like it was just him being like, yo, shit,
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of your career. Like
Speaker 1: here's a bag. Like, honestly, cash money has been like
Speaker 1: the least, Like I don't know, I was blessed for
Speaker 1: that situation. Like they never were like strictlers on trying
Speaker 1: to recoup money from me and just weird shit. Like
Speaker 1: to be real, they just gave me a fat ass
Speaker 1: bag and did some things for me. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: because we always hear, yeah it's mad things about bird
Speaker 1: all fucking or like, you know, my fans will be
Speaker 1: like his music's changing because of cash money or birds
Speaker 1: not putting off you know, all that kind of shit.
Speaker 1: But like my real perspective of it is that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think nobody owe me anything in
Speaker 1: this world. And so to me, like birds did far
Speaker 1: beyond what he owed me. You know, he don't owe
Speaker 1: me shit. So he gave me, you know, two hundred
Speaker 1: rags or something like that. When I was nineteen, you know,
Speaker 1: I was a jit, so I was super dope. Hundreds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so like they did some other shit like as
Speaker 1: the label for me, video shoots and a couple of things.
Speaker 1: But after that it was kind of like they were
Speaker 1: going through this shit with wane. Streaming music became a thing,
Speaker 1: so like the whole situation just kind of changed, and
Speaker 1: like I think they were still like at this place
Speaker 1: of like learning how to navigate the new music scene,
Speaker 1: because you know, it's not the mixtape er anymore. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, this new era. So I think they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure that out, and I just kind of did
Speaker 1: my thing. But they just always gave me freedom to
Speaker 1: put out the music I want to make the music.
Speaker 1: They never tripped on you like recouping or nothing. Bro.
Speaker 1: They let me put cash money logos on merch and
Speaker 1: sell the merch and keep all the money. They bought
Speaker 1: me a tour bus for a tour, didn't recoup any
Speaker 1: money off that, like they should all me bro, So
Speaker 1: all those like indie projects that you've been putting out,
Speaker 1: like that's all you. I have one hundred percent of
Speaker 1: all of that money, and I always have what's your
Speaker 1: relationship like with Birdman, because I know you talked to
Speaker 1: him not too long ago. We're talking shit like it's
Speaker 1: just good. Like he's just kind of like a mentor.
Speaker 1: Do you think like if you really catch a wave,
Speaker 1: he's gonna call you and be like, hey man, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'd probably rocked the funk out because to me,
Speaker 1: like he just is real solid, Like you know, from
Speaker 1: whatever people's perspective is on like what the label could
Speaker 1: have done. But I think people have this perception that
Speaker 1: like a label could really make you popping, and I
Speaker 1: think there's more things the label could have done maybe
Speaker 1: to be behind shit, but I'm like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think really the burden falls on the artists, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't really ready to carry that burden at the time,
Speaker 1: so you know, I was just legit, So there wasn't
Speaker 1: really much they could have did. I feel like they
Speaker 1: did a lot and if I was ready at that
Speaker 1: there's also like a weird white rapper era low key,
Speaker 1: like everyone was fighting to be like the white rapper
Speaker 1: MGK was beefing with Yellow Wolf. There's Maclamore. It's like
Speaker 1: it was just like you know, because now it's like
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not as like weird. I'm glad
Speaker 1: we passed with Maclamore. And no disrespect mclamoy. Great, got
Speaker 1: a nice guy. But hey, that album was solid. No
Speaker 1: it was not, you're crazy, bro, album was not you're
Speaker 1: telling me that album wasn't good wings. I did not
Speaker 1: like one song and Maclamore ry artists good. It was
Speaker 1: a great album. Man. It wasn't better than Kendrick good
Speaker 1: Kid Mad City, but it was a good body of
Speaker 1: course not. It depends what. It depends what. It depends
Speaker 1: what metrics were measured us. It was music that I
Speaker 1: would bump. But but everybody got different flavors. I mean,
Speaker 1: so there's no disrespect. I'm sure Macliamore wasn't a bad album,
Speaker 1: though you said it was a bad album to me personally,
Speaker 1: just because it's something you won't listen to, that's what
Speaker 1: makes it bad to me. I mean, I'm not listening
Speaker 1: to fucking Adele when I drive around, but I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna call album trash. You know, but there's Adele songs
Speaker 1: I like, and there's a Maclamore song you like one.
Speaker 1: There's no way there's not a single man one playing
Speaker 1: for me. When you first heard thrift Shop, you didn't
Speaker 1: say this is kind of funky. Now I hated it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was like, but no, But I was also
Speaker 1: But I was also a white rapper coming up watching
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, I've had to do with that
Speaker 1: a bunch of time, just watching like another dude blow up.
Speaker 1: They're just like, what the fuck is this? What's going on?
Speaker 1: That wasn't my wave. I wasn't really big on the
Speaker 1: Maclimoe at Lea's probably a nice dude. Do you think
Speaker 1: back and say to yourself, Wow, I was a part
Speaker 1: of the rich Gang album, one of the most like
Speaker 1: pivotal influential projects ever. Yeah. I was excited to be
Speaker 1: a part of the whole moments where like rich Homy
Speaker 1: and Thug were popping. That's what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 1: around all those in those studio sessions and just like,
Speaker 1: you know, miss that wave. It was dope. So you
Speaker 1: were in the sessions with rich On and and younger,
Speaker 1: they did that like Milk Marie one, and they did
Speaker 1: that one in the studio, uh the studio that I recorded,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah I was there. I was there when
Speaker 1: they made fucking Lifestyle. Really yeah, what was that? Like crazy?
Speaker 1: Everybody knew was a hit. Bird was like this is
Speaker 1: the one, Like we all just were like the lead
Speaker 1: on Lifestyle. As far as the Thug came up with
Speaker 1: the metal and everything, yeah, he's yeah, he did his
Speaker 1: name and Homi late his verse. But yeah, that was
Speaker 1: just that was just a dope era to be around.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I was like soaking up game
Speaker 1: at that time, like just kind of just in awe.
Speaker 1: It was. That's a pretty big deal to say you
Speaker 1: were at the Lifestyle session. Yeah it was dope. Birdman
Speaker 1: was there. Yep. Everyone knew. Yeah. Yeah, Like Thug had
Speaker 1: a lot of dope records, Like he had bro records
Speaker 1: that didn't come out to like Slim Season three or
Speaker 1: four or three that that were dope. So like he
Speaker 1: had all these records playing, but they were trying to
Speaker 1: find that like real single that took it off. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, bird got a crazy ear for music.
Speaker 1: He was like the second they made it, he was
Speaker 1: like this is the one we shooting the video. It's over.
Speaker 1: I wish Rich Homie Kwan was I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: you know he got locked out by his well, he
Speaker 1: got locked out by his label. He was signed to
Speaker 1: that label. Now, what's the real reason why they're not
Speaker 1: fucking each other? Because it was some that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just mean, like he couldn't put out music for
Speaker 1: like three or four years, so like he just kind
Speaker 1: of cooled off. Why do people listen to that? I
Speaker 1: would never listen to that. If the label told me
Speaker 1: I can let me, I would just change my name
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Speaker 1: London that was like dope London. He pretty much hanneled
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Speaker 1: to when they made that Milk Marie record, I like
Speaker 1: had my guys playing some beats at first, and it
Speaker 1: was the energy was a little dry, and then London
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Speaker 1: room went, oh fucking it was out of there. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's basically what Tasty does now. Pre Tasty. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: it's damn you used to work with any of your
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Speaker 1: make money, and them be rich as fuck. So yeah,
Speaker 1: hey listen man, I think yeah, I think like it's
Speaker 1: always tricky when you're like a super active artist, uh
Speaker 1: still trying to make it to have another artist under you,
Speaker 1: because it's like I want to do that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't want to feel that. I
Speaker 1: don't want them to feel hindered by me. And also
Speaker 1: just like I got a lot of ways to go.
Speaker 1: I'm like selfish because you'll see, like you'll see like
Speaker 1: an artist to be like yeah I got a label,
Speaker 1: be like bro, but you ain't even all the way
Speaker 1: like there yet, but like your damnself, do it the
Speaker 1: right way, you know. Yeah, it's like I really want
Speaker 1: to have that like billboard. That's why Yo Gotti is
Speaker 1: working so well, because your Gotti established he wants everyone
Speaker 1: to be bigger than him. He's already done it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, So in time, so uh,
Speaker 1: you go from being on cash money fast forward, you
Speaker 1: drop a tape Yellowolf. You're kind of like, how how
Speaker 1: have you navigated not getting stuck in the the white
Speaker 1: wrapper box underbelly. I feel like everybody in that box
Speaker 1: knows I don't belong in that box like them in
Speaker 1: there now, but like I be real, like everybody in
Speaker 1: that box, at some point or another has acknowledged that
Speaker 1: I'm meant to be bigger than that box, you know,
Speaker 1: like all my homies and that, you know, I fuck
Speaker 1: with everybody in that land. But I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: the bird man, I feel like Jelly Rope broke through
Speaker 1: the box, broke the box open, He broke the box open.
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I tried to do my fucking
Speaker 1: hardest to just not be associated with the whole like
Speaker 1: that scene, But I don't know. It's like the Wolf
Speaker 1: thing kind of like put me in the dialogue because
Speaker 1: Wolf's like the goat of that scene. But every but
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people like Underwolf that are just
Speaker 1: coow and just very much. So I feel like Wolf
Speaker 1: is done for the for white rappers as well as
Speaker 1: really branched out, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: dope and he's he's brought you up. Yeah, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: glad if anybody co signed me it was Wolf because
Speaker 1: he understands respects the culture as honored the culture. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I hate the rest of that scene to
Speaker 1: be real. Yeah, I'm gonna lie like a lot of
Speaker 1: that ship is cringy as fuck. Man. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I can't they just hit me up to have I
Speaker 1: don't know, some fucking dude on some country ass rapper,
Speaker 1: what's his name up Church or something. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's a hard pass for me, you know, It's no,
Speaker 1: I don't got any anything personal say about up Church
Speaker 1: because he has seems like a nice guy. It seems
Speaker 1: like a dope dude. I just can't have no maga
Speaker 1: rappers on my shot. I just I don't like any
Speaker 1: of the blurred lines between Like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: they're ripping up Black Lives matter is crazy, Like that's
Speaker 1: wild to me. It's like that dude who I fucking
Speaker 1: when I was living in Tampa, that fucking weeny motherfucker
Speaker 1: who you were talking ship to, the fat guy, the
Speaker 1: real fat, ugly dude with the tattoos. I fucking hate
Speaker 1: this scene. Bro like none of blue hair, and uh,
Speaker 1: he's from Saint Pete, but nobody in Tampa fucked with
Speaker 1: him because he was like a goof. But I think
Speaker 1: he came from like a rich family or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But then all of a sudden, he's like
Speaker 1: a Trump rapper. He's like a Trump rapper. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The craziest I've watched a lot of white rappers and
Speaker 1: just people in general. They like find this niche that's
Speaker 1: going and then they sell out their whole brand for
Speaker 1: this jiggin. Because it's like one thing. I'll take being
Speaker 1: at the level that I'm at, because you know, some
Speaker 1: of those guys do numbers now or they're doing a
Speaker 1: million views. But I'll tell you what, I'll always take
Speaker 1: being at a lesser level to keep my integrity high.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have no desire to like hit certain
Speaker 1: number of accolades or like, you know, I think I'm
Speaker 1: one of the dopest artists out there, and like my
Speaker 1: whole mission and pursuit though is just like on my
Speaker 1: own artistic path. I'll never sell that short for some
Speaker 1: trendy like thing. I don't know. I just watched all
Speaker 1: these exactly. I watched all of them turn from like
Speaker 1: street rappers to like Trump maga political like that shs man.
Speaker 1: They're just taking advantage of that whole movement die hard
Speaker 1: and is atrocious. It's like the worst music. I mean
Speaker 1: to me, all that's just trash. So it's annoying that
Speaker 1: I even get like brought into you. I got all
Speaker 1: these youtubel could you be with those guys? I didn't
Speaker 1: you put it? But you put it this record out?
Speaker 1: Which one? Didn't you put it? This record? Which one?
Speaker 1: Which one? Where you know? What what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I got time to that. Yes, hold up now, that
Speaker 1: wasn't to get me in the dialogue of the white
Speaker 1: rapper ship. That was because this bitch ass motherfucker made
Speaker 1: another record about that. I just was proving that was
Speaker 1: like me being in the gym and just being like Hey,
Speaker 1: let me show you that I'm way better than those
Speaker 1: guys are like really bad at making music, so I
Speaker 1: don't understand any of it. Honestly, the whole thing is
Speaker 1: like I'm just like, it's just like cringe theater rap,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like it's like rap that like you
Speaker 1: have to watch. I call it theater rap because you
Speaker 1: got to watch the video and listen to the fucking
Speaker 1: ridiculous shit they say, and then you'll never listen to
Speaker 1: the song. Shout out to the q A non rap subcategory.
Speaker 1: Fuck all of y'all, please please disc me some more
Speaker 1: so that I can be separated further from y'all's fan base.
Speaker 1: I have no desire to be associated with y'all. I
Speaker 1: don't want to make y'all's type of music. I think
Speaker 1: all of y'all trash, and none of y'all could see
Speaker 1: me on the mic. So let that y'all go repost that.
Speaker 1: Put that up on YouTube. That goes for every one
Speaker 1: of them fuckers that mentioned my name. That all all
Speaker 1: they'll do is make YouTube blogs about me because not
Speaker 1: one of them want to do what having a burden again?
Speaker 1: So there we go. Uh, you got a tour coming
Speaker 1: up in June fifty five dates, Me and Doobie fifty
Speaker 1: five days, three months. It's a long tour. It's fucking long.
Speaker 1: His wife on the tour with you. She's gonna be
Speaker 1: coming to some of it. But three months is just
Speaker 1: like ridiculously long. Is it the longest story you've ever done?
Speaker 1: I've done, I've done like a closer. I think this
Speaker 1: is probably the longest for Shure. I've done some long ones,
Speaker 1: like sixty five dates or something like that, but it
Speaker 1: was like back to back to back. So this one's
Speaker 1: like spread out over three months, but it's a lot
Speaker 1: of days. Like what is your like? Top five markets
Speaker 1: like that that are like your brket Orlando that performed
Speaker 1: for you. Orlando always the craziest, like any Florida market, Tampa, Orlando,
Speaker 1: crazy in there, Denver, Love, Denver, Ohio, the whole state,
Speaker 1: super dope, LA's dope, Salt Lake City, the Mormons fuck
Speaker 1: with you, get down. A lot of the Midwest. The
Speaker 1: Midwest is always crazy because you like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: where we at Kansas and they'd be like five hundred
Speaker 1: people there. Yeah, yeah, it'll be all over. What is
Speaker 1: like for you? Like, uh, because I feel like you're
Speaker 1: kind of uh have you when's the last time you
Speaker 1: had that? The sixty sixth Day tour you were talking
Speaker 1: about that was like, I mean pre pandemic. I feel
Speaker 1: like you like are kind of a lot. You've grown
Speaker 1: up a lot. Oh yeah, my tours swag is mad
Speaker 1: different this time. Like i'd be up at six am
Speaker 1: and yeah, I feel like you're like some adult shit now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm grown. Like I don't think I ever see you
Speaker 1: like super fucked up or anything. I don't be doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm trying to get a bag, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like change my I realized, like I
Speaker 1: think a big part of my career I was like
Speaker 1: feeding into this like I'm a fucking rock star image,
Speaker 1: you know, like we all kind of want to be
Speaker 1: that as the star. And it's kind of like this
Speaker 1: nostalgia of like I get fucked up, I don't have
Speaker 1: responsibilities and like the older I get, I just want
Speaker 1: to take care of my mom and my sister and
Speaker 1: my nephew and shit. And I'm like, man, every time
Speaker 1: I go out and get fucked up, I'm just lacking focus.
Speaker 1: I'm missing out on the bag. I'd be setting myself,
Speaker 1: I'd be like self sabotaging, getting two ways to Yo.
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Speaker 1: the interview that we've already been inside up, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna get back to it right now. Did you ever
Speaker 1: have like a crazy drug era of life where you
Speaker 1: were doing that for shure, like I've been, I've been.
Speaker 1: I'm coming up in July, I'll be three years sober
Speaker 1: off of hard drugs. What was like your go to
Speaker 1: hard drug like Molly and coke, Molly and coke, Molly
Speaker 1: coke and alcohol and like perks and shit like that.
Speaker 1: But honestly, like I didn't feel like think I was
Speaker 1: going that crazy, But it was like right when I
Speaker 1: met my girls, She's like, what the fuck is your lifestyle?
Speaker 1: And I was like really started looking at my lifestyle
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I be in the studio to
Speaker 1: fucking three am off of Molly. I come out of
Speaker 1: sleep too. Yeah, drinking every night, jesus. I think it
Speaker 1: was a lot of drinking like that was probably the biggest.
Speaker 1: So probably a good way, Like you know, with all
Speaker 1: the fentonel s going on, a probably good time to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm out peace. I lost a couple of three years
Speaker 1: sober from hard drugs from yeah, all hard drugs. We
Speaker 1: do not consider psilocybin hard drugs. Yeah, mushrooms. Well like, now,
Speaker 1: like I've got the sober time under my belt, so
Speaker 1: I'll go celebrate and drink some champagne or something like that.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to fucking busting down rails in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. I'm cool, man, you know, trying to get
Speaker 1: rich all the drug energy be like weirdo energy too.
Speaker 1: The older I get them, I'd be like, y'all a
Speaker 1: bunch of fucking weirdos. Bro, Like it just drugs make
Speaker 1: you weird. Bro. The more time I've had being sober,
Speaker 1: the more like, Man, I'm focused on my family, my health,
Speaker 1: my music, shipping on MAGA rappers and bro, leave those
Speaker 1: guys alone. I just beg. I've been on your He's like,
Speaker 1: stop associating yourself with them. I'm like, I hate on
Speaker 1: my mind this. Stop acknowledging them because they're gonna put
Speaker 1: you in that Because I was like, they're gonna associate
Speaker 1: you with that ship, even if you just just leave
Speaker 1: them alone. But he racked up and we did it,
Speaker 1: and like we made that song in thirty minutes ship
Speaker 1: on his life video and then like all the other
Speaker 1: ship like Calhoun and these fucking weirdos, they just made
Speaker 1: blogs about me. They don't want to some super weediest
Speaker 1: man and that dud's like fifty. I was, what's funny
Speaker 1: is that I made a joke to my homies like
Speaker 1: he won't want rap smoke, he'll go make a YouTube blog.
Speaker 1: And that's what he did. And I was just like,
Speaker 1: all right, I want just off of that. I don't
Speaker 1: make vlogs about people like I don't like you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just avoid. I'm over here there. Leave me the
Speaker 1: fuck alone. They're over there, no part of them away.
Speaker 1: Keep all that weirdo ship away from me. That's why, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, because like my guys are like you Doobie Rits.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you were like, we're like teetering. We're like teetering
Speaker 1: because the interview it from the South. Well, we have
Speaker 1: some overlapping fans because I'm from Florida. We're from the South. Right,
Speaker 1: Jelly Rolls, my dog and I friends and there's people
Speaker 1: that's like yeah, like I don't, Yeah, whoever want to
Speaker 1: be friends with them? To me, I didn't do nothing wrong.
Speaker 1: Like all those motherfuckers came at me because I said
Speaker 1: we was the hardest and shady. But I feel like
Speaker 1: everybody think they're the hardest, say they're the hardest, dude,
Speaker 1: Like every one of those guys at some point talk
Speaker 1: about how they're the bed. Like I thought all that
Speaker 1: shit was corny. Like they tried to like start some
Speaker 1: ship with me. That was all for the internet, you know,
Speaker 1: because like if you really got an issue with somebody,
Speaker 1: you're gonna talk to him. You're gonna see him be
Speaker 1: about some ship you don't make up, edit your fucking
Speaker 1: vlog at your house, and spend an hour fucking edited
Speaker 1: in this clips. You you got any features on the
Speaker 1: on the new project Angel Hill? I got Angel Hill
Speaker 1: introducing the world to your boy, Angel Hill. He's my
Speaker 1: favorite one on the tape, Like I honestly, Wolf gave
Speaker 1: me a ten out of ten fucking murder Verse that
Speaker 1: we've been pocketing for as Yeah, that wrecking about the
Speaker 1: break people's face. And then I got Dubi on there.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Dubes. Man, I'll keep my circle
Speaker 1: tight there it is. Uh, So the album comes out
Speaker 1: on Friday, and Adam, by the time this comes out,
Speaker 1: of the al will be out. So because it's coming
Speaker 1: on next week, what next week? Yeah, go get my ship, nobody,
Speaker 1: go get the who's fucking are you gonna put another
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars mixtape out? And get grab another hundred band?
Speaker 1: Fucking right? Yeah? We not. We was talking about it,
Speaker 1: but I was like, let's not do it once a year.
Speaker 1: We'll do it like once every two years, every two
Speaker 1: years because the year it feels like a cash grab,
Speaker 1: even though I could do that, like I make enough
Speaker 1: music for sure cash grab. It's a cash grab, but
Speaker 1: you're an independent artist. To me, it's like the fact
Speaker 1: you can say it's not cash grab is like saying
Speaker 1: that it's for money and there's no value. To me.
Speaker 1: It was like a really innovative way to get the
Speaker 1: money we deserve as artists from the people that was
Speaker 1: willing to spend that, and they got something really special.
Speaker 1: So I felt like there wasn't like half ass songs. No,
Speaker 1: we put we put hours in the well that feel
Speaker 1: like it was worth it. Sold out, Did you bow
Speaker 1: on you cheap bastard. Man. We could thousand and one man,
Speaker 1: they was gone. Honestly, yeah, I just bought a house
Speaker 1: so you know for the hundred sorry put it down
Speaker 1: payment by uh anything else going on? Bro, Just honestly
Speaker 1: music always, I'm like still trying to figure out what's
Speaker 1: too much to drop and what's not enough. You know,
Speaker 1: you kind of put a fire into my ass last
Speaker 1: year when I was like working on Jaws and I
Speaker 1: was like kind of going ghosts from everything and just
Speaker 1: working on Jaws, and you were like, don't fucking do that.
Speaker 1: Put your foot on their neck and drop you got
Speaker 1: to I dropped ten videos this year already, so I'm
Speaker 1: on It said that to me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: Kav is fucking right, Let's flood him. So we about
Speaker 1: to drop like four albums because I feel like when
Speaker 1: you have like the attention, man, you can't take advantage
Speaker 1: of that. I feel like that's low key. Where do
Speaker 1: be kind of fucked up a little? Just do be
Speaker 1: kind of No. No, he makes timeless music, but he
Speaker 1: chilled out for like his bounce back. Bro. Watchun He's
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. You guys are about tour. I just
Speaker 1: mean like he just kind of like disappeared for like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest though
Speaker 1: I like envy artists like Doobie or like certain artists
Speaker 1: that I could think of that have a really big
Speaker 1: loyal fan base and they've only dropped like two projects
Speaker 1: because I'm the opposite, you know, I'm like twelve twelve
Speaker 1: When I look at it is everybody independent. The more
Speaker 1: pieces to your catalog you add, the more your residual
Speaker 1: bag is every month, my bad go up every drop.
Speaker 1: So's keep driving to this shut up there, we'll go
Speaker 1: get the album. It's out right now. Nobody's out tasty.
Speaker 1: Have my fucking guy in the Angel hell on my album,
Speaker 1: Absolute Savage, my boy Tasty. Bee's the best out in
Speaker 1: the kitchen. Can we get some studio time? What's up
Speaker 1: later tonight