WEBVTT - #169 - Caskey 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.480 Bootleg Cat Podcasts special guests Caskie and he brought Tasty 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.120 with him. Let's get it in the kitchen. You guys 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:10.000 definitely are inseparable at this point. All right, man, we 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.640 got a formula that's working right now. Welcome, Thank you, Bro, 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.560 glad to be here. You've been ducking the show for 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:17.160 two years? Have I been dug in? I feel like 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.520 I'm just hard to get a hold of. I've I've 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.400 you've recorded here, like, I don't know how about a 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.079 thousand times strict COVID restrictions here? I had no COVID restriction. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:28.880 We're the only studio in LA with zero. Coach just 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:30.600 busted out in the interview when I was recording one 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.159 time I got it in. Yeah, that saw how things work. Yeah, 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:38.040 I'm bad. I'm bad at schedules anyway, man, welcome, how's 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.320 everything well? First of all, you announced the new album 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.120 YEP this Friday, coming out Friday for twenty nine nobody 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.919 album drops. Uh, So you've been working on a lot 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.160 of music. You tease, like a project called Jaws YEP, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.400 and then this album comes like what's cool? Yeah? I like, 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:56.880 none of my fans should ever listen to me when 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.240 I'm talking about what's coming out next, because I you know, 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.520 I switches up on me every day, all right. I 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.360 kind of got like ten ideas constantly brewing in my brain, 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.560 like albums that I'm working on. So like Jaws was 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.240 the project that I got all my producers on, Like 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.480 I pretty much got like six guys that been my 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.800 go to guys, including Chalk. Now, so Jaws is like 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:21.360 the project with everybody on it, and it's turning out. Also, honestly, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.760 it's like half done right now. It's sick, but it's 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.760 just like it's hard to get seven dudes from different 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.119 parts of the country, you know, and and Locke lives 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.119 in Germany now, so oh shit, Jaws put on hold, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.360 Like I think we're gonna do second session in May, 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.360 but yeah, nobody like me and Tasty record Demni every day, 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.839 so nobody was like, let's let's give him some crack. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.760 You knock it out quickly, not really, I mean, like, 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.520 you know, it's been about six months. Some of the 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.760 records are like yes, some are brand new, but some yeah, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.080 about six months. Because last year you did you put 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.760 out the project with Chalk find Our and the Wolf Project, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.040 and then you're the Wolf Collab project and then you 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.680 put out like one hundred dollars mixtape. Yeah we did that, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.320 which was you sold a thousand of them rights and copies. Yeah, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.080 real Nipsey hustle, like man, shout out Nipsey to go. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:09.960 You sold? So was it all? They were all on 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:14.919 USB's right now. We did. We did like eight hundred 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.800 physical CDs and like two hundred USBs or something like that. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.880 So nice little hundred thousand dollars come up. Yeah, you 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.080 could say that, how like how did you decide what 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.880 to put on the how did you decide what to 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.079 put on the one hundred dollars project? But like the 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.080 original idea behind it was like, you know, as an artist, 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.840 you got a lot of music, you know what I mean, 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.480 you know, for managing artists is like we record hundreds 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.679 of songs and almost that nobody will ever hear. Yeah, 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.320 and a lot of it's really dope, you know. So 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:42.320 the kind of the idea is like we still wanted 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.560 to work on this album, like still working on Nobody, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.880 still working on Jaws. But I don't know, we were 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:48.760 just like, man, what's a way that we could like 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.760 really give people these records that I don't know if 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.120 they'll come out for you know, another year or whatever, 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.240 and so we just like, I don't know, we put 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.520 our heads together. The one hundred Dollar mixege was twenty 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.000 five songs, so twenty five records. Are they never ever 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.560 going to be on DSPs? And nobody and nobody's uploaded 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.400 it online because I wrote everybody a letter, Like all 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.320 thousand came with this typewriter letter from me that was 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.960 just basically explaining to them that this was like a 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.680 sacrifice to the creative gods. You know, it's like twenty 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.080 five records I put hours in that I'm not going 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.760 to put out. They're just for the fans, and no 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.400 one's leaked. One's leaked it. I still looking at it. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.520 I'm like, bro, we got the coolest fans man. Everybody real. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:27.840 They asked me before they play it for their friends, 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.200 they'll DM me and be like, bro, can I show 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.440 my homie the table? I'm like, yeah, that's crazy quick 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:38.240 hunting Bag one hundred thousand, it's a nice coming, man. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.120 Oh yeah, that was great. Me and Tasty has been 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.880 figuring out how to get the bag independent. I feel 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.360 like we've been pretty creative. Yeah, I mean Yeah, for 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.760 artists who are watching this, like, what are some of 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.920 the things that you have figured out when it I mean, 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.920 obviously you do features, and I love how you address 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.960 some of those artists that you do features for on 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:02.880 fine art, I said, I said. I never what I said. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.000 I never sold out just to I never made music 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:07.760 just to make it deal. Except for every feature that 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.920 I ever did trying to only be a rapper and 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.600 pay the bills. But shout out them rappers. They kept 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.720 it alive. I hope they'll thrive and win. My feature 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.120 price too high, you never could buy it again. I thought, 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.680 you know, like I really do appreciate all the artist 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.320 you know. I know some people maybe look at the 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.440 features and it's like these some of these people ain't 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.280 on your level. But like, I don't know, it's all 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.039 practice for me and feed the family, come with the bag, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.200 happy to get it. Bro. Yeah, I've seen a few 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.159 guys you've done songs with and I'm like, hm, I 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.320 don't discriminate. The money's blue. I'm in there. The money's blue. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.240 I don't feel like it like take away from my 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.880 brand because I just I make so much music and 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.479 I don't know I'm coming every time, Like every single 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.880 one of those features, they gotta fucking they got a 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.840 ten out of ten verse so and there's always that 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.360 respect like for up and coming artists, no matter how 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.440 good they are or whatever, and I just like get 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.640 it somewhere. Yeah, Like that was my first, like I first, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.640 my first foot in the industry was a paid features actually, 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.599 Jelly bro that was the first and the only feature 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.560 I bought, and that was like my foot in. So 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.279 well you're with that, like twenty twelve, twenty twelve, Yeah, 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.120 I actually highlights saw me last night and showed me 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.960 a video of me and Jelly from fucking nine years ago. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.000 I was like, that's so crazy because I first met 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.120 Jelly in twenty fourteen thirteen. Yeah, he was a I 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.320 picked him, Like, I hope he's not mad at me 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:20.600 for saying this, but I pat him for like two 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.000 hundred and fifty dollars firs. He was like, man, fuck it, 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.120 he fucked with my managers. He's like, shit, paid for 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.719 my studio time and I'll come do it. Oh wow, 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.080 that was like my first like foot in I guess 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.280 to the game was that before cash Money yeh, pre 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.720 cast money, the song thatver even came out. It was 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.800 called day No. It was like, bro, I'm in a 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.680 triple X white tea riding in these donks in Florida 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.800 and shit, it was so you put out a mixtape 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:49.400 and make one hundred thousand dollars selling a thousand copies allegedly, Well, 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.000 everyone's got to get paid off. Allegedly, we made a 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:57.520 hundred racks. You'll do some features. What are the other 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.440 things you're doing to show stream I mean streaming bag 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.360 is we're making beats to you, guys are making beats 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:07.400 too Tasty taught me that he'd make a crazy bag 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.719 off of beats, and like he's been teaching me production 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.560 here and there and ship. So we put a beat 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.200 tape together out we made I'll tell you after the show, 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.360 you're druck in the high r s. Yeah, it was 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.200 a chunk. So we made good money out there as streams. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.880 I mean the Wolf the Wolf album increased me in 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:28.120 his pocket is about double. That Wolf album was a 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.560 nice little game changer for you. You feel like, yeah, 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.440 shout out the Yellow Wolf. I just want to say 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.560 he's the only and the realist artist for being one 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.760 of the few that like gave me public love. But 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.719 also put a bag in my pocket. You know. Besides Berdman, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.640 Ain't nobody ever done that, So he's real for that 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:49.080 big bag. Yeah, and he doesn't work with like anyone. No. Hell, 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.480 we've been waiting for him and Rich to put a 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.040 project out for like twelve years, and I wonder that 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.039 I haven't. It's never gonna happen. We've been talking about 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:59.120 part two, that'll be fire. He's you know, he's in 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.279 his rock mode in the album. Well, but at some 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.440 point when it's Ness said, you know, every time I 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.320 send him a record, he'd be like, man, we took 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.480 the lead on those songs. I took the lead as 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:14.480 far as I chose all the beats like Tasty Yeah, 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.800 Like we pretty much read Tastey's house picking beats out 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.400 for a couple of days. So I came with like 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.600 the creative direction as far as like beats and like 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.840 what you know, I kind of thought directions were gonna 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.200 be But I mean, as far as the records go, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.080 it was pretty much even like Wolf the intro. Wolf 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:30.920 wrote his very right when I played on the beat. 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.960 He wrote that shit in about ten minutes. And yeah, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.760 I feel like Wolf really brought the bars out of 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.800 him he turned up. So it was pretty I mean 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.240 it's pretty even as far as like the writing and 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.440 shit went. But he kind of like gave me the 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.680 go to to just kind of forefront the direction of you. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.880 I feel like lyrically you had your sharpest year last 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.000 year because I feel like fine art was very much 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:54.560 like a very heavy on the bars. Yeah, Like what 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.040 it was was that when you know, I've been recording 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:58.640 myself for a long time, so a lot of times 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.080 you get in there kind of freestyle your vibes. But 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.560 when I was in Nashville working on the Wolf album, 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.640 like they record everything analog like or like through this board, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.120 you know, so like no presets on your vocals, so 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.200 I kind of just had to get back into like 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:13.880 my writing bag. And then it just kind of like 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.480 reminded me, like I'm fucking top tier when I do that, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.400 you know, So I think fine art and that. Yeah, 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.520 do you feel like because I feel like you'd always 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.360 kind of been doing your thing independently, But I feel 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.680 like from the beginning of the pandemic you had, the 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.640 pandemic brought the hustle out you and never was in you. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.679 Pandemic just turned us up. What the fuck is the 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.679 name of the We Ain't Scared of No Police, bitch 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.760 marshal Ow. That was like, that was our biggest record. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.600 I was gonna say, thats your biggest record up until 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.160 the Wolf album came out, and so it's like, dang god, 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:45.880 because like my biggest record prie of that was like 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.920 a record. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did that. We did 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.640 the we like we were recording here right when the 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.480 Pandemic was starting to hit. Yeah, and then I was like, yeah, 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.120 we should do a fucking pandemic theme table, came up 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.320 with all the song titles, and then knocked that shit 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.200 out in like two days. It's crazy because that song 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.760 came out like a month or two prior to all 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.240 that like civil rights stuff with the Black Lives Matter 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.480 and everything, so it was just we didn't play none 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.000 of that. It's just you know, that was like, I 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.840 feel like you were one of the first guys to 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.480 put a pandemic. Everyone had a Pandemic project yeah, and 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.400 had like kind of got played out at some point, 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.600 But now, like, do you feel like because I feel 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.200 like you've had the best two and a half years 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.880 of your career since the Pandemic started or two years. Yeah. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.560 You know what's crazy is that, like my bag kind 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.959 of slowed at first because you know, like the pandemic 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:36.760 hit right when we were finishing up this tour, so 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.800 like tours like a third of the bag, right, you know, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.360 as a artist you got like streams merch tour, so 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.960 like I felt like a third of the bag was gone, right, 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.040 and then we just I don't know, me and Tacy 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.000 are addicted to money, so we're like, you know, when 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.679 some stimulus sex started coming, everybody had money. Yeah, we 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.280 features taking all the stimulus money. We got every rapper 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.240 stimulus check now, like honestly, just it brought the focus 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.200 back to the music, which was dope. 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Uh this 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.319 is the second video he's been in, but this video 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.120 he is like, he's like in the video, had this 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.880 idea for like a minute. You know you've seen it 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.240 with like the pop stuff. Yeah, that Jesse people were there. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.040 I thought that was so funny. I've been wanting to 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.040 do that for a grip and Jesse and I was 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.679 tossing the idea. He was down, Like I sent him 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.319 the lyrics. He's like, I got this. I'm about to 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.400 fucking hone him. He loves it. He want to be 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.679 a rapper or something. Dude. He recorded here bro. I 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:05.360 remember nobody was like, Yo, we should do a comedy skit. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.000 How about the skit when when he's homies in the 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.439 booth and he's like, yeah, I'm just thinking like more 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:16.000 tropical vibes. Like he's awesome that. I like. The was 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.800 like Jesse, good dude. Jesse's a good dude man. Yeah, 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.880 so yeah, because I feel like, did you barely just 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.320 meet him during the pandemic? Yeah, like I had. I 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.160 met Steve will do It because he's from Ovido, which 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.920 like my high school when it springs in Oviedo or 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.680 like rival schools, So like we had some mutual friends 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.360 and ship. I knew he was. He brought me out 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.160 to the Noake Spy and then I met them and 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:39.400 Jesse just he's on my way, dude, shout Florida Man 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:44.679 producing Steve will do It and CASKI Bro and Mike 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:50.080 Busey Florida characters. Bro, can you tell us about the 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:55.040 craziest time you've had a Mike Bucy's house? Uh no, no, no, 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.840 I love it honestly, like every time. And what's the 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.160 craziest thing you've witnessed the involved the craziest thing I've 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.920 ever seen? Well, I just saw the story post of 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:10.319 this lady sucking off like a thousand veteran dicks. Yeah, 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.679 that was pretty much disgusting. You were there for. This 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.360 was something you were there for. Now, I wasn't there 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.000 for that craziest shit. I was there. I mean just 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:22.760 like crazy orgies with like clowns and nidgets and shit 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.559 like that. What's that smell? Like? Gross? Smells like the 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.240 gathering of the Juggalos or something. It's like a trailer 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.840 park playboy mansion. Yeah, shout out to Mike. My beauty 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.600 is an absolute legend and honestly one of the kindest 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.840 people to be big got a big hard heart, like 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.200 put on for me. Just good dude, man, solid dude. Man. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.720 Let's go back. How did uh you initially end up 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.160 linking with cash money? Like what? What? What was it 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.240 that you were doing that? For sure? Birdman's radar super 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.400 random couldn't even plan it. Like I had did this 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.400 feature for this kid, uh, my homie Noel Kid famous 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.960 at the time, and he was being managed by DJ Nash, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.080 who was like, yep, good dude, did we talk about 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.880 DJ Nasty from Orlando? Nasty hit me up and was like, yo, 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.080 I got somebody that want to check you out and 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.440 shit bird Man, and so bird called me up one day. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.120 It was like, basically, just because I had did this 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.160 feature record with this kid, he hadn't really heard nothing 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:17.959 of me, and he was like, man, come to Miami, 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.480 I want you to play me some records and then 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.960 it was just kind of on and popping from there. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.240 Super random, super random. Birdman offers you a deal. What 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.960 year was this twenty thirteen? Fuck yeah yeah twenty thirteen. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.600 Ye did you even like look at the contract? I 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.720 sent it off to the lawyer, but I was like, yeah, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.720 whatever it says, let's go. Like, honestly, like birded, like 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.560 our relationship was different. It wasn't like all business y 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.560 and you know, labels, like it was just him being like, yo, shit, 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.040 I want to be a part of your career. Like 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.880 here's a bag. Like, honestly, cash money has been like 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.040 the least, Like I don't know, I was blessed for 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.720 that situation. Like they never were like strictlers on trying 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.160 to recoup money from me and just weird shit. Like 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.000 to be real, they just gave me a fat ass 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.720 bag and did some things for me. So I'm like, well, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.000 because we always hear, yeah it's mad things about bird 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.640 all fucking or like, you know, my fans will be 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.840 like his music's changing because of cash money or birds 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:13.520 not putting off you know, all that kind of shit. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.520 But like my real perspective of it is that, like, 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.960 you know, I don't think nobody owe me anything in 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.320 this world. And so to me, like birds did far 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.600 beyond what he owed me. You know, he don't owe 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.960 me shit. So he gave me, you know, two hundred 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.240 rags or something like that. When I was nineteen, you know, 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.840 I was a jit, so I was super dope. Hundreds. Yeah, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.640 And so like they did some other shit like as 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.960 the label for me, video shoots and a couple of things. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.560 But after that it was kind of like they were 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.720 going through this shit with wane. Streaming music became a thing, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.240 so like the whole situation just kind of changed, and 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.440 like I think they were still like at this place 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.080 of like learning how to navigate the new music scene, 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.680 because you know, it's not the mixtape er anymore. It's like, 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.760 you know, this new era. So I think they're trying 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.360 to figure that out, and I just kind of did 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.760 my thing. But they just always gave me freedom to 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.600 put out the music I want to make the music. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.440 They never tripped on you like recouping or nothing. Bro. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.960 They let me put cash money logos on merch and 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.560 sell the merch and keep all the money. They bought 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.120 me a tour bus for a tour, didn't recoup any 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.160 money off that, like they should all me bro, So 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.400 all those like indie projects that you've been putting out, 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.720 like that's all you. I have one hundred percent of 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.840 all of that money, and I always have what's your 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.200 relationship like with Birdman, because I know you talked to 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.280 him not too long ago. We're talking shit like it's 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.400 just good. Like he's just kind of like a mentor. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.280 Do you think like if you really catch a wave, 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.800 he's gonna call you and be like, hey man, yeah, 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.160 and I'd probably rocked the funk out because to me, 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.800 like he just is real solid, Like you know, from 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.800 whatever people's perspective is on like what the label could 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.840 have done. But I think people have this perception that 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.680 like a label could really make you popping, and I 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.280 think there's more things the label could have done maybe 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.240 to be behind shit, but I'm like, you know, I 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.520 think really the burden falls on the artists, and I 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.800 wasn't really ready to carry that burden at the time, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.880 so you know, I was just legit, So there wasn't 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.680 really much they could have did. I feel like they 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.280 did a lot and if I was ready at that 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.560 there's also like a weird white rapper era low key, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.520 like everyone was fighting to be like the white rapper 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.719 MGK was beefing with Yellow Wolf. There's Maclamore. It's like 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.199 it was just like you know, because now it's like 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.080 I feel like it's not as like weird. I'm glad 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.200 we passed with Maclamore. And no disrespect mclamoy. Great, got 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.600 a nice guy. But hey, that album was solid. No 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.840 it was not, you're crazy, bro, album was not you're 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.320 telling me that album wasn't good wings. I did not 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.680 like one song and Maclamore ry artists good. It was 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.719 a great album. Man. It wasn't better than Kendrick good 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.600 Kid Mad City, but it was a good body of 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.480 course not. It depends what. It depends what. It depends 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:47.080 what metrics were measured us. It was music that I 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:51.159 would bump. But but everybody got different flavors. I mean, 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.160 so there's no disrespect. I'm sure Macliamore wasn't a bad album, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.520 though you said it was a bad album to me personally, 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.080 just because it's something you won't listen to, that's what 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.240 makes it bad to me. I mean, I'm not listening 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.000 to fucking Adele when I drive around, but I'm not 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.000 gonna call album trash. You know, but there's Adele songs 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.080 I like, and there's a Maclamore song you like one. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.800 There's no way there's not a single man one playing 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.920 for me. When you first heard thrift Shop, you didn't 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.120 say this is kind of funky. Now I hated it. Yeah, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.639 but I was like, but no, But I was also 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.040 But I was also a white rapper coming up watching 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:23.679 this guy. You know, I've had to do with that 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.080 a bunch of time, just watching like another dude blow up. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.680 They're just like, what the fuck is this? What's going on? 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.639