WEBVTT - Fantasy Exit Interviews, Part 2 - Jags, Raiders, Jets, and Panthers 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:14.560 Wow, Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, January sixteenth, twenty twenty five. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.279 Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're starting to 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.479 go fund me for Florio's plane ticket. Me and your 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.960 man MG Marcus, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.680 Uh yeah, so, Floria, you were saying to us after 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.560 Tuesday show, you're considering a little road trip for the weekend. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:32.720 Huh yeah, I uh. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.360 I've always wanted to go to a Bills playoff game, 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.199 and you guys can attest like going to a regular 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.879 season game is not really possible with the job that 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.720 we had, playoffs could be. Last year, I had my 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.320 tickets all booked, not not booked, but like about to 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.760 hit book and then they were like six feet of 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.200 snow's coming into Buffalo. So I said no. And then 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.680 this trip around, I guess because it's the game of 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.320 the week, It's Sunday night. Everyone all the TV people 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.560 need a fly home Monday. They want four figures to 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.080 fly home just to fly home. Oh my god, I'm 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:11.040 not sure I'm gonna But also after that, I went 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.280 and I checked the weather for the game. Uh, they're 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.800 predicting it's gonna be something around ten degrees with the 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.880 real feel of like in the negatives. So I think 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:22.839 me watching from home might be the best bet. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.880 Yeah, yeah, that feels like a good call. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.600 You gotta pick a team that doesn't have to deal 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.080 with that type of weather, my boy. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.080 Or at least one in a dome or something. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.559 Yeah, like why don't they have a dome at this point? 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:39.280 Seriously though, They're building a new stadium and it's an 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.840 outdoor and finans are like, build a dome, and they're like, look, 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:44.840 we're gonna make it where the snow won't fall on 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.160 the fans, but the field we want snow. And I'm like, 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.280 you have, Josh Allen, let's not take them away in 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:52.720 the snow. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.560 The word part about this, and I know, like you 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.600 know you have, you have the football whether people out 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:58.960 there who are like this is the way the game's 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.960 supposed to be played, like it's not an advantage really 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.760 for anybody, Like you have the greatest athletes in the world, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.560 you're gonna make them play in awful conditions. And on 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.200 top of it, it's not like it's not like all 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.359 of the Buffalo Bills are from Buffalo and are used 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.639 to playing in the snow, right, like I get it. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.920 Josh Allen went to Wyoming and he played in the 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:21.440 snow and. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:22.359 The cold, you know. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.280 I'm sure he did at some point when he was 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:30.840 was you know, in Wyoming. But like James Cook, it's 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:35.040 more like Florida. He's from Miami, right, he went to Georgia. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.840 Like sucks right, Like he's not rum He's not He 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.240 wasn't born playing in this kind of weather. Like, I 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.400 don't know. That's just me and I'm sure that, you know, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:48.120 the football people will be like whatever. Me as a 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:52.080 native California is like this sucks, That's all I don't. 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:56.799 I don't get it. Man, even like I've I don't know, 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.440 growing up doing snow removal and being in that weather 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.959 and stuff, it sucks. Like there's it's fun for an 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.400 hour or so and then it's awful. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.840 Like will my socks get wet because of snow and rain? 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:09.600 I just want to fight. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.280 My day is ruined. My socks are wet, and I 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.040 can't go home. One of the worst experiences of my 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.560 life is walking at like five in the morning in 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.080 a blizzard to the New York City subway and I 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:25.040 like wanting to fight everyone in my path. 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.440 That day, or exactly like you said, snow is fun 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.800 when you know you can leave it, like when he's 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.600 there and you get to play for a couple days 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:33.359 and you have to go home. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.360 That's when snow is fun. When you have to live 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:35.640 in it. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.720 I'd imagine I say this just guessing because I've never 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.040 lived in a snowy area. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.600 It doesn't seem like it'd be a whole lot of. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.560 You would want to buy a flame thrower. You look 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.600 like a flame for a guy. It's fun if you 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.640 don't have to go out. If you're home with a 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.840 bunch of food and you don't have to go out, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:52.520 it's great. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.440 Having a flamethrower. Though, that does sort of change my opinion. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.360 Do I get the win and just like use it that? 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.000 That does seem kind of coo once upon a time 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:58.880 in Hollywood style. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.680 Yeah, that seems kind of Also, we got plenty of 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.400 something talking about We're gonna get sind you. Our exit 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.400 interviews with draft picks five through eighths also give you 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.520 a little bit of a preview for the divisional round. 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.200 But before we dive into this too, so on the 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:18.760 last show, uh Lakwan, you debuted your blonde hair, which. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.599 You know, Florida I thought looked good. We thought it 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:21.640 was a good look on you. 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.599 Today it is back to normal, which makes me wonder 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.640 what was the response from the family when they saw it. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.120 So the wife called me off guard. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:31.960 She kind of just like walked in and I was 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.520 just like, oh crap, I can't record it. 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.120 But she was just like jaw dropping, like what did 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:36.960 you do to yourself? 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.480 But like eventually, like once you see it in the light, 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.600 She's like, it doesn't look that bad on you, but 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.320 I just need some time to get used to it. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.240 And I'm like, oh, this is a good thing. I 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.600 could probably rock this look. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:49.359 My kids hated. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.159 The kids they thought was Halloween. Like Layla's like touching 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.360 my hair, like is this why is it like this? 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.480 And the kids they say to Darness things. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.280 Well, your son had a p it'sicularly interesting review of 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.440 what your hair looked like. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.040 Like he oh my god, Like Marcus, I forgot to 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:09.919 tell you the story last time on the pod. He 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.320 makes you out to be cooler than you already are. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.080 Like we're watching the Rams game and he's looking like Marcus, 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.680 let's go, and he's saying number fifteen DeMarcus Robinson, but 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.359 he's like Daddy's friend. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.400 Yeah, dadd nosing. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.760 He really thought it was you. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.719 But Mason, he's one of a kind man. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.479 But one of my friends actually real quick said that 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.000 I look like the evil negative. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.919 Version of a monrod Say Brown. I can sake. I 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:42.719 love that one. 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.920 Ah. That's funny. By the way, you can. You can 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.479 let Mason know. And I'm letting you guys know. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:49.520 I love you all. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.880 If I was making even DeMarcus Robinson money, I wouldn't 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:55.400 be here doing a podcast with you all. 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.920 No, no, tressed. It would be if you did a show 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.000 on Sunday mornings and then laced up for the. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.560 Was running routes Sean McVay, I'd be amazing. Yeah, I 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.240 even if I was making like NFL minimum money, I 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.600 wouldn't be here doing the podat I love you, but no, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.520 I just I absolutely wouldn't be doing that. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.600 Look, LaQuan, it sounds like if you do want full 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.039 time blonde hair, you just ease it in a couple 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.040 of days and day it's just permanent. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.440 It's just there. Yeah, you just do that. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.440 Maybe we do that, man, I like say, all right, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.000 let's get to our exit. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:28.440 Interviews. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.720 Here, we will start with the number five pick that 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.760 belongs to the Jacksonville Jaguars. They went four and thirteen 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:35.479 this season. 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:36.200 What went right? 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.920 Undoubtedly it was Brian Thomas Junior. Eighty seven receptions, over 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.680 twelve hundred nearly thirteen hundred receiving yards, ten touchdowns. He 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.880 was the wide receiver four. I mean, look, Florida, I 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:50.560 know you were a elite Neighbors person. I know a 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.440 lot of people were Marvin Harrison people. I look not 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.920 to say that we didn't think Brian Thomas couldn't be good. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.680 Did you imagine a world of where he was a 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.440 top five receiver coming in? 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.440 No, No, And as much as you know, I like 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.679 to take credit for being on like Jaden and Melik 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.360 Neighbors and Lad McConkie and those guys coming out of 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.000 the draft, one of my I won't say like I 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:17.480 wasn't like Brian Thomas Junior is a buster or anything 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.320 like that, but I thought he was the fifth best 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.840 wide receiver in this class last year, and that is 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.960 clearly a swing at a miss. He's much better than that. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.600 Like Ladd McConkie, Melik Neighbors and him are the clearcut 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.800 top three from this class or as of right now, 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.200 Marvin Harrison and Roma Dunza maybe could change that. But yeah, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.120 I think it's easy to feel good about Brian Thomas 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:42.040 for next season because well, I know Lakwan hates his quarterback, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.880 but he's tied to way the better quarterback than than 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.800 Malik Neighbors is right now. And the offense is gonna 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.720 change with no Doug Peterson being there, but a lot 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.560 of the pieces are gonna stay the same. And I mean, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.200 you'd have to be a fool if you got this 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.240 job and you were suddenly like, we're not gonna run 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:00.840 things through Brian Thomas Junior. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:02.760 So then is he a first round pick next year 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:04.280 in fantasy? 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.520 I I think he'll be one of those players on 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.000 average is ADP will be first round, but he'll be 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.600 someone like, uh, I'm trying to think like a back 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.600 end first where sometimes you could get him in like 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.679 the first or second pick in the second round. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.160 But I do think his ADP will be a late 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:22.320 first all right. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.280 Then, as for what went wrong, and like, I don't 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.200 know literally everything else pretty much in Jacksonville, I mean, Ark, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.200 we got to a point where Travis et In was 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.680 unusable in fantasy, but take Bigsby wasn't really usable. He 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.960 wasn't doing enough. You know, Trevor Lawrence got hurt. We 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.439 saw mac Jones. So I do ask you, because you 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:45.680 know Florida pointed out, look on you are an unabashed uh, 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:50.520 Trevor Lawrence hater. The problem is they have signed him 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:55.880 to an extension. They are tied to Trevor Lawrence. How 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.400 much does that impact you're thinking when you're looking at 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.120 drafting Brian Thomas j or. I guess Evan Ingram or 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.720 a healthy Christian Kirk or whoever else may be there. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.959 Does that knock them down a couple of spots for you? 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.120 Well, Like like Florio said, I could see him living 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.760 on that back into that first early second, maybe even 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.960 mid second. I just feel more comfortable in the second 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.160 round with him because a lot of his emergence was situational. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.360 He's a great player, he's in a great situation. But 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.240 you have Trevor Lawrence, he got injured, play ten games. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.079 You have ten forgettable games from David Davis. I mean 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.960 he had twenty catches in ten games. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:29.400 Yikes. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.320 But then you have Evan Ingram, who's obviously a high 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.000 priority target share at Christian Kirk, obviously a high priority 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.120 target share in the offense. All these guys are returning 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.839 next season, so this might change a little bit of Like, 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.520 right now, it feels good saying he's a first round, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.120 early second round, but then once we get closer to 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.120 draft day, ADP might slip a little because some of 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.360 these guys are gonna come back healthy, still employed. Parker Washington, 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.720 I hope he gets more opportunity if they move off 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.640 of Christian Kirk, but more so looking at Trevor Lawrence, 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.680 his habits, his tendencies, It's constantly going to be in 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.000 the slot, and Brian Thomas Junior does not live there. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.320 In an emergence, I would say we should have we 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.960 should have had a bigger scope on mac Jones because 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.839 he went out there and looked very similar to whichever 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.920 Lawrence when you put the numbers side by side. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.520 Yeah, it's funny too, because I at the end of 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.320 the season, right and doing that last week or so 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.760 of NFL Fantasy Live and trying to spin things forward 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:27.280 to next year, my immediate reaction was, yeah, man, Brian 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.439 Thomas is a first round pick. But as I stopped 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.320 to really think about it, and you know, maybe got outside. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.120 Of the moment a little bit. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.319 I think I'm landing more to where you are, Lakwan, 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.240 that maybe he's not. Maybe he's a second round pick, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.600 just because, as you mentioned, a lot of the guys 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.920 are back, They're gonna be questions about the offense and 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.080 what it's going to be exactly once we figure out 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.360 the coaching staff that's going to be in place and 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.720 how that's going to work out. So I think my 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.800 recency bias immediately had me say yeah, first round pick. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.480 And now that I'm sort of you know, exhaling a 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.720 little bit and sort of looking at the big picture here, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.319 maybe maybe not. Let me ask you, Forya, because I 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.040 know you and I have sort of tried to make 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.920 Trevor Lawrence a thing the last cut. Maybe not this year, 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.880 the year before I know we did. Are we done 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.080 with that? Is it over? 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:18.880 Yes? 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:21.400 Yes? 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.760 The thinking is like, unless I'll take everything back if 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.760 Ben Johnson ends up there, because I will trust him 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.920 and his play calling and getting the most out of 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:36.079 everyone there. But no, Yeah, like he had Doug Peterson, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.440 who we were all excited about, and like he even 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.800 in his best years. He's never been a very great 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.560 fantasy quarterback. He's more of like a fringy guy that 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.679 you could play in the right matchup stuff like that. So, uh, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.920 it's one of the and then being tied to him 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.720 is one of the reasons why I think that this 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.280 is not one of the more appealing jobs this year, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.439 because I get there's a toolsy quarterback there, but it's 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.000 also one that is getting paid a ton of money, 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:04.760 and if you don't get the most out of him 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.880 right away, you're both going to be gone from Jacksonville. 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.240 So yeah, I've lost I, like many, I was a 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.160 Trevor Lawrence believer when he came out of college, and 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.240 I've lost all that. We all were. We all sold 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.960 the dream man and it is not great. 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.040 They threw around the G word, right, generational. That was 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.800 the thing when he came out of Clemson, because I look, 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.160 he had an amazing college career, right, There's no denying 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:35.840 that was incredible in college. It has not translated. Look 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.880 this year. Obviously, the injury limited him to just ten 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.280 games this season, but it wasn't really great. He had 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.720 that stretch late in twenty twenty two when it looked 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.880 like he was starting to put some things together. Twenty 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.080 twenty three was sort of underwhelming. Then this year was 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.720 not great before the injury. We're coming up on year 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.320 five now, and you know, I think at this point 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.199 there's still hope that maybe he turns it around. Is 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.360 at least a credible starting quarterback. But I think the 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.080 idea that he is going to be the next great 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.160 quarterbacking star in the NFL, I mean, I think that 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:13.439 ship has sailed. But the Jaguars have made a commitment 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.640 to him, so he's going to be there, you know, 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.920 as long as he's healthy. He's going to be there 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.360 for the foreseeable future. And that is going to sort 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.839 of color everything around around what happens. I just got 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:25.640 to ask you, Ques, what do we do about Travise 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.280 etn because again, he was another guy that it looked 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.920 like things were sort of happening for him, and this 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.679 year he just just vanished. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.080 Really in the offense. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.320 I mean, I look, he played fifteen games, Like you 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.040 would have had a hard time convincing me that he 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:40.959 played that many games. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.240 This year, you have to just change your expectations, take 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.719 the RB one lens off of him and just throw 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.959 it at RB two low end RB two on him 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.560 and just have your expectations in order when you go 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.960 to draft day, Like if you're drafting as your RB one, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.920 you're going to be suffering pain if you're going to 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.600 be drafting his handcuffing Tank Bigsby. He can't get out 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.520 of his own way to actually be usole on the 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.920 week to week basis. So if you're even diving into 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.960 the Jaguars like running back room, you just have to 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.440 have your expectations in order because there's plenty of games 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.040 where you know, I just had to play Travis Etn, 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.160 but he's shown up to put up decent points and 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.480 you're like, Okay, I'm glad I made that move. He's 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.080 one of those guys that you're gonna have to play 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.920 based on matchup and based on who they bring in. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.760 You know, the coaching staff is gonna alter a lot 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.520 of the conversations that we're having right now. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.800 Honestly. So it's a little bit early, but overall, Travis Etn, 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.000 you just have to change your expectations for some running backs. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:32.840 Yeah, I don't even know if he's an RB two. 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.600 I mean if just if you just do it based 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.800 on where he finished. He was the RB thirty five 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.960 this year. It was it was rough just about one point, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:42.640 a little more than one point. I had to take 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.240 take Bigsby like they were back to back. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.400 I had a league where I had both of them, 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.600 and like trying to figure out which one. It's a 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.600 deep league to like two flex spots and stuff, and 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.360 trying to figure out which one of those two to 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.080 play week to week was there was no rhyme or 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:00.720 reason because there would be weeks You're like, all right, 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.280 they're gonna be trailing and it wouldn't be an easy 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.800 like I want no part of this backfield next year. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:11.720 No, just yeah, I mean really, outside of Thomas, I 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.000 think I can make an argument for Christian Kirk, and 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:15.920 I don't even know if I can make a case 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:17.840 for Evan Ingram. I mean, like at least a healthy 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.400 Christian Kirk I can sort of I can make a 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.560 case for I don't know about Ingram. So it's really 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:26.160 it's Brian Thomas Junior and maybe Christian Kirk. That's kind 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.840 of it, guys that I'm I have any real level 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.240 of interest in in drafts next year. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:31.800 For sure. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.160 With Thomas, I think it's gonna be a little of 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.080 what we both said. Like in home leagues he's gonna 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:38.840 be a second round pick, I think, but in those 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.640 like June Best Ball drafts, he'll go in. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:42.440 The first I think. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:47.000 Yeah, yeah, I did so. I did a mock draft, 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.160 like on my own XL sheet. I got him right 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.160 now at the two to one spot. I'm okay with that. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.640 I'm okay with going Rock Bowers at that one twelve 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.280 and then go Brian Thomas Junior. I'm okay with that. Wow, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.040 you're so you're taking Brock Bauers round one now one? Yeah, 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.360 that's my prediction. This is my early predictions right now 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.680 that I'm looking at for my mocks, and it's crazy, 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.680 like I can't see myself taking Brian Thomas Junior over. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:10.560 Pooking Nakua, you know. 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.320 I can't see him take us over Drake London. So 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.960 that that makes the back like Elie Neighbors, he's going 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:17.680 to be on that one ten spot, Like he's gonna 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.840 be at that one ten, one twelve spot, Like can 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.280 you fit Brian Thomas Junior there? 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:22.360 Honestly? Like I don't know. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.360 Yeah, that's yeah, that's gonna be an interesting conversation once 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.120 we start doing some more mock drafts and that sort 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.200 of thing. But it's a perfect segue to the next 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.040 team up. Who has the number six pick, and that's 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.960 the Las Vegas Raiders at four and thirteen. It was 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:41.320 almost like you read the rundown by the way, just 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:42.920 real quick. Some of the big free some of the 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.840 notable I want to say big notable free agents for 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:50.080 the Jaguars, Mac Jones at the Ernest Johnson. Yeah, yeah, anyway, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.680 back to the Raiders, I went right for sure. It 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.760 was Brock Bowers. You know, one hundred and twelve receptions 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.200 at nearly twelve hundred yards, five touchdowns. He was the 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.920 tight end one second year in a row that a 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:07.479 rookie has been the overall tight end. One phenomenal season 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.960 for Bowers, and in a year where I had he 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.240 not gone to the Raiders, I think the draft capitol 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.440 on him would have been nuts. He goes to the Raiders, 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.200 who had previously spent a high draft pick on Michael Mayer. 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.520 I for one was kind of like, oh no, I 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.640 don't really love this situation. And then the Raiders just said, 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.240 Michael Marrier just have a seat. Brock is gonna handle everything. 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.000 Will be fine and everything worked out well for him. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.200 Jacoby Myers also had a really good season, and maybe 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.000 it was overshadowed a little bit because of what Bowers did, 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.000 but Myers eighty seven catches over one thousand yards, He 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.040 had four touchdowns. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.679 He was the wide receiver nineteen. 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:48.640 Definitely I think benefited from Devontae Adams getting traded at 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.680 some point during the year. But career numbers for him, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.040 I mean career highs in receptions, his first career thousand 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.960 yard season as well. So I feel like it was 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:04.399 very quietly a good year for Jakobe Myers. So Lakwan 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.960 said he's got Brock Bowers as a first round pick. Florio, 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.240 do you have him as a first round pick this year? 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.440 I could see him getting drafted as one me personally, 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.880 I will not be the one doing it. Not that 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.560 he doesn't deserve to be a first round pick, like 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:26.400 the numbers he gave us this year with the quarterbacks 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.639 that he did as a rookie, And it's not just 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.880 like I know, we could be like, oh, well, look, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.240 rookie wide receivers are coming in and hitting the ground 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.800 running like ever. But for rookie tight ends, it really 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.360 is only the elites, although I will point out Kyle 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.640 Pitts San Laporter both got worse through in the year two, 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:45.679 than that's not the reason though I'm fading Bowers. I 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.200