Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, January sixteenth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're starting to
Speaker 1: go fund me for Florio's plane ticket. Me and your
Speaker 1: man MG Marcus, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so, Floria, you were saying to us after
Speaker 1: Tuesday show, you're considering a little road trip for the weekend.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I uh.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to go to a Bills playoff game,
Speaker 3: and you guys can attest like going to a regular
Speaker 3: season game is not really possible with the job that
Speaker 3: we had, playoffs could be. Last year, I had my
Speaker 3: tickets all booked, not not booked, but like about to
Speaker 3: hit book and then they were like six feet of
Speaker 3: snow's coming into Buffalo. So I said no. And then
Speaker 3: this trip around, I guess because it's the game of
Speaker 3: the week, It's Sunday night. Everyone all the TV people
Speaker 3: need a fly home Monday. They want four figures to
Speaker 3: fly home just to fly home. Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure I'm gonna But also after that, I went
Speaker 3: and I checked the weather for the game. Uh, they're
Speaker 3: predicting it's gonna be something around ten degrees with the
Speaker 3: real feel of like in the negatives. So I think
Speaker 3: me watching from home might be the best bet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that feels like a good call.
Speaker 3: You gotta pick a team that doesn't have to deal
Speaker 3: with that type of weather, my boy.
Speaker 4: Or at least one in a dome or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like why don't they have a dome at this point?
Speaker 3: Seriously though, They're building a new stadium and it's an
Speaker 3: outdoor and finans are like, build a dome, and they're like, look,
Speaker 3: we're gonna make it where the snow won't fall on
Speaker 3: the fans, but the field we want snow. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: you have, Josh Allen, let's not take them away in
Speaker 3: the snow.
Speaker 1: The word part about this, and I know, like you
Speaker 1: know you have, you have the football whether people out
Speaker 1: there who are like this is the way the game's
Speaker 1: supposed to be played, like it's not an advantage really
Speaker 1: for anybody, Like you have the greatest athletes in the world,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make them play in awful conditions. And on
Speaker 1: top of it, it's not like it's not like all
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills are from Buffalo and are used
Speaker 1: to playing in the snow, right, like I get it.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen went to Wyoming and he played in the
Speaker 1: snow and.
Speaker 4: The cold, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he did at some point when he was
Speaker 1: was you know, in Wyoming. But like James Cook, it's
Speaker 1: more like Florida. He's from Miami, right, he went to Georgia.
Speaker 1: Like sucks right, Like he's not rum He's not He
Speaker 1: wasn't born playing in this kind of weather. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's just me and I'm sure that, you know,
Speaker 1: the football people will be like whatever. Me as a
Speaker 1: native California is like this sucks, That's all I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't get it. Man, even like I've I don't know,
Speaker 3: growing up doing snow removal and being in that weather
Speaker 3: and stuff, it sucks. Like there's it's fun for an
Speaker 3: hour or so and then it's awful.
Speaker 5: Like will my socks get wet because of snow and rain?
Speaker 5: I just want to fight.
Speaker 3: My day is ruined. My socks are wet, and I
Speaker 3: can't go home. One of the worst experiences of my
Speaker 3: life is walking at like five in the morning in
Speaker 3: a blizzard to the New York City subway and I
Speaker 3: like wanting to fight everyone in my path.
Speaker 1: That day, or exactly like you said, snow is fun
Speaker 1: when you know you can leave it, like when he's
Speaker 1: there and you get to play for a couple days
Speaker 1: and you have to go home.
Speaker 4: That's when snow is fun. When you have to live
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 1: I'd imagine I say this just guessing because I've never
Speaker 1: lived in a snowy area.
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like it'd be a whole lot of.
Speaker 3: You would want to buy a flame thrower. You look
Speaker 3: like a flame for a guy. It's fun if you
Speaker 3: don't have to go out. If you're home with a
Speaker 3: bunch of food and you don't have to go out,
Speaker 3: it's great.
Speaker 1: Having a flamethrower. Though, that does sort of change my opinion.
Speaker 1: Do I get the win and just like use it that?
Speaker 3: That does seem kind of coo once upon a time
Speaker 3: in Hollywood style.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems kind of Also, we got plenty of
Speaker 1: something talking about We're gonna get sind you. Our exit
Speaker 1: interviews with draft picks five through eighths also give you
Speaker 1: a little bit of a preview for the divisional round.
Speaker 1: But before we dive into this too, so on the
Speaker 1: last show, uh Lakwan, you debuted your blonde hair, which.
Speaker 4: You know, Florida I thought looked good. We thought it
Speaker 4: was a good look on you.
Speaker 1: Today it is back to normal, which makes me wonder
Speaker 1: what was the response from the family when they saw it.
Speaker 3: So the wife called me off guard.
Speaker 5: She kind of just like walked in and I was
Speaker 5: just like, oh crap, I can't record it.
Speaker 3: But she was just like jaw dropping, like what did
Speaker 3: you do to yourself?
Speaker 5: But like eventually, like once you see it in the light,
Speaker 5: She's like, it doesn't look that bad on you, but
Speaker 5: I just need some time to get used to it.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh, this is a good thing. I
Speaker 5: could probably rock this look.
Speaker 3: My kids hated.
Speaker 5: The kids they thought was Halloween. Like Layla's like touching
Speaker 5: my hair, like is this why is it like this?
Speaker 5: And the kids they say to Darness things.
Speaker 1: Well, your son had a p it'sicularly interesting review of
Speaker 1: what your hair looked like.
Speaker 5: Like he oh my god, Like Marcus, I forgot to
Speaker 5: tell you the story last time on the pod. He
Speaker 5: makes you out to be cooler than you already are.
Speaker 5: Like we're watching the Rams game and he's looking like Marcus,
Speaker 5: let's go, and he's saying number fifteen DeMarcus Robinson, but
Speaker 5: he's like Daddy's friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dadd nosing.
Speaker 1: He really thought it was you.
Speaker 3: But Mason, he's one of a kind man.
Speaker 5: But one of my friends actually real quick said that
Speaker 5: I look like the evil negative.
Speaker 3: Version of a monrod Say Brown. I can sake. I
Speaker 3: love that one.
Speaker 1: Ah. That's funny. By the way, you can. You can
Speaker 1: let Mason know. And I'm letting you guys know.
Speaker 4: I love you all.
Speaker 1: If I was making even DeMarcus Robinson money, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be here doing a podcast with you all.
Speaker 3: No, no, tressed. It would be if you did a show
Speaker 3: on Sunday mornings and then laced up for the.
Speaker 1: Was running routes Sean McVay, I'd be amazing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: even if I was making like NFL minimum money, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here doing the podat I love you, but no,
Speaker 1: I just I absolutely wouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 3: Look, LaQuan, it sounds like if you do want full
Speaker 3: time blonde hair, you just ease it in a couple
Speaker 3: of days and day it's just permanent.
Speaker 4: It's just there. Yeah, you just do that.
Speaker 1: Maybe we do that, man, I like say, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get to our exit.
Speaker 3: Interviews.
Speaker 1: Here, we will start with the number five pick that
Speaker 1: belongs to the Jacksonville Jaguars. They went four and thirteen
Speaker 1: this season.
Speaker 4: What went right?
Speaker 1: Undoubtedly it was Brian Thomas Junior. Eighty seven receptions, over
Speaker 1: twelve hundred nearly thirteen hundred receiving yards, ten touchdowns. He
Speaker 1: was the wide receiver four. I mean, look, Florida, I
Speaker 1: know you were a elite Neighbors person. I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people were Marvin Harrison people. I look not
Speaker 1: to say that we didn't think Brian Thomas couldn't be good.
Speaker 1: Did you imagine a world of where he was a
Speaker 1: top five receiver coming in?
Speaker 3: No, No, And as much as you know, I like
Speaker 3: to take credit for being on like Jaden and Melik
Speaker 3: Neighbors and Lad McConkie and those guys coming out of
Speaker 3: the draft, one of my I won't say like I
Speaker 3: wasn't like Brian Thomas Junior is a buster or anything
Speaker 3: like that, but I thought he was the fifth best
Speaker 3: wide receiver in this class last year, and that is
Speaker 3: clearly a swing at a miss. He's much better than that.
Speaker 3: Like Ladd McConkie, Melik Neighbors and him are the clearcut
Speaker 3: top three from this class or as of right now,
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison and Roma Dunza maybe could change that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's easy to feel good about Brian Thomas
Speaker 3: for next season because well, I know Lakwan hates his quarterback,
Speaker 3: but he's tied to way the better quarterback than than
Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors is right now. And the offense is gonna
Speaker 3: change with no Doug Peterson being there, but a lot
Speaker 3: of the pieces are gonna stay the same. And I mean,
Speaker 3: you'd have to be a fool if you got this
Speaker 3: job and you were suddenly like, we're not gonna run
Speaker 3: things through Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 4: So then is he a first round pick next year
Speaker 4: in fantasy?
Speaker 2: I I think he'll be one of those players on
Speaker 2: average is ADP will be first round, but he'll be
Speaker 2: someone like, uh, I'm trying to think like a back
Speaker 2: end first where sometimes you could get him in like
Speaker 2: the first or second pick in the second round.
Speaker 3: But I do think his ADP will be a late
Speaker 3: first all right.
Speaker 1: Then, as for what went wrong, and like, I don't
Speaker 1: know literally everything else pretty much in Jacksonville, I mean, Ark,
Speaker 1: we got to a point where Travis et In was
Speaker 1: unusable in fantasy, but take Bigsby wasn't really usable. He
Speaker 1: wasn't doing enough. You know, Trevor Lawrence got hurt. We
Speaker 1: saw mac Jones. So I do ask you, because you
Speaker 1: know Florida pointed out, look on you are an unabashed uh,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence hater. The problem is they have signed him
Speaker 1: to an extension. They are tied to Trevor Lawrence. How
Speaker 1: much does that impact you're thinking when you're looking at
Speaker 1: drafting Brian Thomas j or. I guess Evan Ingram or
Speaker 1: a healthy Christian Kirk or whoever else may be there.
Speaker 1: Does that knock them down a couple of spots for you?
Speaker 5: Well, Like like Florio said, I could see him living
Speaker 5: on that back into that first early second, maybe even
Speaker 5: mid second. I just feel more comfortable in the second
Speaker 5: round with him because a lot of his emergence was situational.
Speaker 5: He's a great player, he's in a great situation. But
Speaker 5: you have Trevor Lawrence, he got injured, play ten games.
Speaker 5: You have ten forgettable games from David Davis. I mean
Speaker 5: he had twenty catches in ten games.
Speaker 4: Yikes.
Speaker 5: But then you have Evan Ingram, who's obviously a high
Speaker 5: priority target share at Christian Kirk, obviously a high priority
Speaker 5: target share in the offense. All these guys are returning
Speaker 5: next season, so this might change a little bit of Like,
Speaker 5: right now, it feels good saying he's a first round,
Speaker 5: early second round, but then once we get closer to
Speaker 5: draft day, ADP might slip a little because some of
Speaker 5: these guys are gonna come back healthy, still employed. Parker Washington,
Speaker 5: I hope he gets more opportunity if they move off
Speaker 5: of Christian Kirk, but more so looking at Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 5: his habits, his tendencies, It's constantly going to be in
Speaker 5: the slot, and Brian Thomas Junior does not live there.
Speaker 5: In an emergence, I would say we should have we
Speaker 5: should have had a bigger scope on mac Jones because
Speaker 5: he went out there and looked very similar to whichever
Speaker 5: Lawrence when you put the numbers side by side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny too, because I at the end of
Speaker 1: the season, right and doing that last week or so
Speaker 1: of NFL Fantasy Live and trying to spin things forward
Speaker 1: to next year, my immediate reaction was, yeah, man, Brian
Speaker 1: Thomas is a first round pick. But as I stopped
Speaker 1: to really think about it, and you know, maybe got outside.
Speaker 4: Of the moment a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think I'm landing more to where you are, Lakwan,
Speaker 1: that maybe he's not. Maybe he's a second round pick,
Speaker 1: just because, as you mentioned, a lot of the guys
Speaker 1: are back, They're gonna be questions about the offense and
Speaker 1: what it's going to be exactly once we figure out
Speaker 1: the coaching staff that's going to be in place and
Speaker 1: how that's going to work out. So I think my
Speaker 1: recency bias immediately had me say yeah, first round pick.
Speaker 1: And now that I'm sort of you know, exhaling a
Speaker 1: little bit and sort of looking at the big picture here,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe not. Let me ask you, Forya, because I
Speaker 1: know you and I have sort of tried to make
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence a thing the last cut. Maybe not this year,
Speaker 1: the year before I know we did. Are we done
Speaker 1: with that? Is it over?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: The thinking is like, unless I'll take everything back if
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson ends up there, because I will trust him
Speaker 3: and his play calling and getting the most out of
Speaker 3: everyone there. But no, Yeah, like he had Doug Peterson,
Speaker 3: who we were all excited about, and like he even
Speaker 3: in his best years. He's never been a very great
Speaker 3: fantasy quarterback. He's more of like a fringy guy that
Speaker 3: you could play in the right matchup stuff like that. So, uh,
Speaker 3: it's one of the and then being tied to him
Speaker 3: is one of the reasons why I think that this
Speaker 3: is not one of the more appealing jobs this year,
Speaker 3: because I get there's a toolsy quarterback there, but it's
Speaker 3: also one that is getting paid a ton of money,
Speaker 3: and if you don't get the most out of him
Speaker 3: right away, you're both going to be gone from Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I've lost I, like many, I was a
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence believer when he came out of college, and
Speaker 3: I've lost all that. We all were. We all sold
Speaker 3: the dream man and it is not great.
Speaker 1: They threw around the G word, right, generational. That was
Speaker 1: the thing when he came out of Clemson, because I look,
Speaker 1: he had an amazing college career, right, There's no denying
Speaker 1: that was incredible in college. It has not translated. Look
Speaker 1: this year. Obviously, the injury limited him to just ten
Speaker 1: games this season, but it wasn't really great. He had
Speaker 1: that stretch late in twenty twenty two when it looked
Speaker 1: like he was starting to put some things together. Twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three was sort of underwhelming. Then this year was
Speaker 1: not great before the injury. We're coming up on year
Speaker 1: five now, and you know, I think at this point
Speaker 1: there's still hope that maybe he turns it around. Is
Speaker 1: at least a credible starting quarterback. But I think the
Speaker 1: idea that he is going to be the next great
Speaker 1: quarterbacking star in the NFL, I mean, I think that
Speaker 1: ship has sailed. But the Jaguars have made a commitment
Speaker 1: to him, so he's going to be there, you know,
Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy. He's going to be there
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. And that is going to sort
Speaker 1: of color everything around around what happens. I just got
Speaker 1: to ask you, Ques, what do we do about Travise
Speaker 1: etn because again, he was another guy that it looked
Speaker 1: like things were sort of happening for him, and this
Speaker 1: year he just just vanished.
Speaker 4: Really in the offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, I look, he played fifteen games, Like you
Speaker 1: would have had a hard time convincing me that he
Speaker 1: played that many games.
Speaker 5: This year, you have to just change your expectations, take
Speaker 5: the RB one lens off of him and just throw
Speaker 5: it at RB two low end RB two on him
Speaker 5: and just have your expectations in order when you go
Speaker 5: to draft day, Like if you're drafting as your RB one,
Speaker 5: you're going to be suffering pain if you're going to
Speaker 5: be drafting his handcuffing Tank Bigsby. He can't get out
Speaker 5: of his own way to actually be usole on the
Speaker 5: week to week basis. So if you're even diving into
Speaker 5: the Jaguars like running back room, you just have to
Speaker 5: have your expectations in order because there's plenty of games
Speaker 5: where you know, I just had to play Travis Etn,
Speaker 5: but he's shown up to put up decent points and
Speaker 5: you're like, Okay, I'm glad I made that move. He's
Speaker 5: one of those guys that you're gonna have to play
Speaker 5: based on matchup and based on who they bring in.
Speaker 5: You know, the coaching staff is gonna alter a lot
Speaker 5: of the conversations that we're having right now.
Speaker 3: Honestly. So it's a little bit early, but overall, Travis Etn,
Speaker 3: you just have to change your expectations for some running backs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know if he's an RB two.
Speaker 1: I mean if just if you just do it based
Speaker 1: on where he finished. He was the RB thirty five
Speaker 1: this year. It was it was rough just about one point,
Speaker 1: a little more than one point. I had to take
Speaker 1: take Bigsby like they were back to back.
Speaker 3: I had a league where I had both of them,
Speaker 3: and like trying to figure out which one. It's a
Speaker 3: deep league to like two flex spots and stuff, and
Speaker 3: trying to figure out which one of those two to
Speaker 3: play week to week was there was no rhyme or
Speaker 3: reason because there would be weeks You're like, all right,
Speaker 3: they're gonna be trailing and it wouldn't be an easy
Speaker 3: like I want no part of this backfield next year.
Speaker 1: No, just yeah, I mean really, outside of Thomas, I
Speaker 1: think I can make an argument for Christian Kirk, and
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I can make a case
Speaker 1: for Evan Ingram. I mean, like at least a healthy
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk I can sort of I can make a
Speaker 1: case for I don't know about Ingram. So it's really
Speaker 1: it's Brian Thomas Junior and maybe Christian Kirk. That's kind
Speaker 1: of it, guys that I'm I have any real level
Speaker 1: of interest in in drafts next year.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 3: With Thomas, I think it's gonna be a little of
Speaker 3: what we both said. Like in home leagues he's gonna
Speaker 3: be a second round pick, I think, but in those
Speaker 3: like June Best Ball drafts, he'll go in.
Speaker 4: The first I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I did so. I did a mock draft,
Speaker 5: like on my own XL sheet. I got him right
Speaker 5: now at the two to one spot. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 5: I'm okay with going Rock Bowers at that one twelve
Speaker 5: and then go Brian Thomas Junior. I'm okay with that. Wow,
Speaker 5: you're so you're taking Brock Bauers round one now one? Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's my prediction. This is my early predictions right now
Speaker 5: that I'm looking at for my mocks, and it's crazy,
Speaker 5: like I can't see myself taking Brian Thomas Junior over.
Speaker 3: Pooking Nakua, you know.
Speaker 5: I can't see him take us over Drake London. So
Speaker 5: that that makes the back like Elie Neighbors, he's going
Speaker 5: to be on that one ten spot, Like he's gonna
Speaker 5: be at that one ten, one twelve spot, Like can
Speaker 5: you fit Brian Thomas Junior there?
Speaker 3: Honestly? Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, that's gonna be an interesting conversation once
Speaker 1: we start doing some more mock drafts and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. But it's a perfect segue to the next
Speaker 1: team up. Who has the number six pick, and that's
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders at four and thirteen. It was
Speaker 1: almost like you read the rundown by the way, just
Speaker 1: real quick. Some of the big free some of the
Speaker 1: notable I want to say big notable free agents for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Mac Jones at the Ernest Johnson. Yeah, yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: back to the Raiders, I went right for sure. It
Speaker 1: was Brock Bowers. You know, one hundred and twelve receptions
Speaker 1: at nearly twelve hundred yards, five touchdowns. He was the
Speaker 1: tight end one second year in a row that a
Speaker 1: rookie has been the overall tight end. One phenomenal season
Speaker 1: for Bowers, and in a year where I had he
Speaker 1: not gone to the Raiders, I think the draft capitol
Speaker 1: on him would have been nuts. He goes to the Raiders,
Speaker 1: who had previously spent a high draft pick on Michael Mayer.
Speaker 1: I for one was kind of like, oh no, I
Speaker 1: don't really love this situation. And then the Raiders just said,
Speaker 1: Michael Marrier just have a seat. Brock is gonna handle everything.
Speaker 1: Will be fine and everything worked out well for him.
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers also had a really good season, and maybe
Speaker 1: it was overshadowed a little bit because of what Bowers did,
Speaker 1: but Myers eighty seven catches over one thousand yards, He
Speaker 1: had four touchdowns.
Speaker 4: He was the wide receiver nineteen.
Speaker 1: Definitely I think benefited from Devontae Adams getting traded at
Speaker 1: some point during the year. But career numbers for him,
Speaker 1: I mean career highs in receptions, his first career thousand
Speaker 1: yard season as well. So I feel like it was
Speaker 1: very quietly a good year for Jakobe Myers. So Lakwan
Speaker 1: said he's got Brock Bowers as a first round pick. Florio,
Speaker 1: do you have him as a first round pick this year?
Speaker 3: I could see him getting drafted as one me personally,
Speaker 3: I will not be the one doing it. Not that
Speaker 3: he doesn't deserve to be a first round pick, like
Speaker 3: the numbers he gave us this year with the quarterbacks
Speaker 3: that he did as a rookie, And it's not just
Speaker 3: like I know, we could be like, oh, well, look,
Speaker 3: rookie wide receivers are coming in and hitting the ground
Speaker 3: running like ever. But for rookie tight ends, it really
Speaker 3: is only the elites, although I will point out Kyle
Speaker 3: Pitts San Laporter both got worse through in the year two,
Speaker 3: than that's not the reason though I'm fading Bowers. I
Speaker 3: think Bowers is generational. I think him and Trey McBride
Speaker 3: are battling out to be the first tight end off
Speaker 3: the board next season. I just have always hated my
Speaker 3: bills when I take a tight end in the first round,
Speaker 3: so I need like a lot, like Lakwan says often, like,
Speaker 3: I feel like I need to leave with a wide
Speaker 3: receiver in that first round. And if I could get
Speaker 3: Tray McBride in round two rather than take Brock Bowers
Speaker 3: in round one, because I do think Bowers will go first.
Speaker 3: I think the name, the hype of being younger, stuff
Speaker 3: like that. But I just if he goes in round two,
Speaker 3: I could maybe convince myself to do it. But in
Speaker 3: round one, I just I've done it in the past
Speaker 3: and I've always hated it.
Speaker 1: First thing, yes, Sam Laporter was worse in year two
Speaker 1: than he was in year one, but that fall off
Speaker 1: was not as dramatic as Kyle.
Speaker 3: It looks like it would be though for a bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Kyle pins went from a thousand yards
Speaker 1: as a rookie. Now granted he only played ten games
Speaker 1: in his second season, but three hundred and fifty six yards.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about going from sixty yards a
Speaker 1: game to about thirty five yards per game.
Speaker 4: That is dramatic. Laporter did not have. He did not
Speaker 4: just jump off a cliff kept falling.
Speaker 1: He's sort of he sort of walked down a hill.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the way when for Sam Laporta in
Speaker 1: year two, I think I side with you Floria on
Speaker 1: this one, just because I said this late in the year.
Speaker 1: I think for me to consider a tight end in
Speaker 1: round one, that player has to be so much better
Speaker 1: than the other tight ends behind him that it's just
Speaker 1: an undeniable advantage, right, It's it's gotta be. You know,
Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty two, when Travis Kelce was one
Speaker 1: hundred points better than the tight end two, that wasn't
Speaker 1: the case. I mean, Bowers was was phenomenal. He beat
Speaker 1: Trade McBride by thirteen points. You know, like, that's not
Speaker 1: that's not so, that's that such a huge gap that
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I gotta have him, Like I.
Speaker 4: Can wait this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean if Trade McBride scored more
Speaker 1: than two touchdowns receiving touchdowns all season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're only separated by the touchdowns really yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean it really is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yardage why, I think it's about about
Speaker 1: fifty yards difference. It's like one reception different, Like that's
Speaker 1: really it. It's the touchdowns that sort of made the
Speaker 1: gap there between the two of them. So that's the
Speaker 1: only reason I think I can't really do brock Bauers
Speaker 1: in the in the first round at this point. So
Speaker 1: that went right for the Raiders. What went wrong for
Speaker 1: the Raiders? Sa Mere White? We can start there. I
Speaker 1: was gonna put the quarterbacks here, but let's be honest.
Speaker 1: I don't know that we had any real expectations for
Speaker 1: Raiders quarterbacks, did we.
Speaker 4: I mean no, the pre.
Speaker 3: Four wins, I did they not have? Hey, they gave
Speaker 3: the Rams. They gave the Rams a game too, apparently,
Speaker 3: so it was just whoa all right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the preseason was a mid off between Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew and Aidan O'Connell. At one point, things got so
Speaker 1: bad between injury and under performance that we saw Desmond
Speaker 1: Ritter get a start. Yeah, we just had noise I
Speaker 1: can't say that it went wrong because we didn't really
Speaker 1: expect much from them in the first place. But Zamir White,
Speaker 1: there was hope.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of excitement.
Speaker 1: I said before the season, you know, Josh Jacobs left
Speaker 1: and everybody was like, all right, it's a mere White season.
Speaker 1: And the Raiders went out and got Alexander Madison and everybody.
Speaker 4: Was like, all right, it's a mere White season.
Speaker 1: And then in the end two hundred and thirteen scrimmage
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown and ended up missing the final
Speaker 1: seven games because of injury. Ol Q, I don't know
Speaker 1: where where did you fall on Zamir White at the
Speaker 1: start of the season compared to like, you know what happened.
Speaker 5: I would say as the summer started coming to it
Speaker 5: and I started coming around on the hype because it
Speaker 5: was just everywhere, and you're just like, you know what,
Speaker 5: I don't you know, think that I can make a
Speaker 5: case not to really draft him out. I feel like
Speaker 5: he has the lead role. We've seen Alexander Madison produced
Speaker 5: and it hasn't been much. But there's a lot of
Speaker 5: folks in therapy right now experience like that was a
Speaker 5: terrible experience. Like all my teams that I had him
Speaker 5: on were just complete nightmares. Like one of those leagues
Speaker 5: that I happened to have, you know, a Mir Duelo
Speaker 5: on the waiver wire. It saved my league and I
Speaker 5: still didn't make the playoffs. So it was just like
Speaker 5: running backs, when we make these hype trains, we need
Speaker 5: to look at the entire situation. Expectations at quarterback we
Speaker 5: didn't have any, so we knew it was bad. Expectations
Speaker 5: for the coaching, eh first year, first job, We'll see
Speaker 5: how it goes with the culture and see if they
Speaker 5: go out there and win games. But they weren't gonna
Speaker 5: win a bunch of games. The whole entire situation just
Speaker 5: had a red flag of just bad, bad, bad, And
Speaker 5: we still went out there and drafted this guy in
Speaker 5: the first six seven rounds like it's real nasty one.
Speaker 3: I think the big like, it's so funny to me
Speaker 3: that him and Alexander Madison shared the backfield because Samir
Speaker 3: White was the Alexander Madison from the year prior. And
Speaker 3: to me, I think what the big lesson is is
Speaker 3: we need to stop seeing a running back, a backup
Speaker 3: running back have a good game or a couple of
Speaker 3: good games and be like, now, imagine what he could
Speaker 3: do over seventeen because it's so much easier to do
Speaker 3: it in a spot start or for a couple of games,
Speaker 3: especially when there's not tape out on you late in
Speaker 3: the year, especially when defenses are banged up, like Zamir
Speaker 3: White did it last at the end of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: So I don't know who fits the bill. I have
Speaker 3: to like think more who fits the bill for this
Speaker 3: year in that mold, but like stop chasing these small
Speaker 3: sample sizes and thinking like, all right if it hits
Speaker 3: over seventeen games, because it's there's a reason why Zamir
Speaker 3: White and Alexander Madison were career backups for so long,
Speaker 3: taking a pen and scratching out my sincere McCormick takes.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 4: Sincere McCormick.
Speaker 1: We love the sincere McCormick, But the Sincere McCormick sample
Speaker 1: size was really small. It was basically two games. Then
Speaker 1: unfortunately he got hurt. We didn't see him for the
Speaker 1: rest of the year. Uh yeah, granted it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different. He was a rookie, but he was also
Speaker 1: a rookie that wouldn't have seen the field, were it
Speaker 1: not for Zamir White being awful and getting injured in
Speaker 1: an Alexander Madison sort of being out Xander Madison. You know,
Speaker 1: so I hope, I hope we did take that lesson
Speaker 1: away that Hey, look, let's not get too hyped on
Speaker 1: Sincere McCormick. The Raiders another situation though, where there's a
Speaker 1: complete overhaul with Antonio Pierce being let go, Tom Telesco
Speaker 1: being let go. I did sort of weirdly appreciate that
Speaker 1: the Raiders did those two things on on separate days,
Speaker 1: so that, you know, we got the.
Speaker 4: Time to mourn them both individually.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, Antonio Pierce got let go, like
Speaker 1: I have a day, and then like two days later, like,
Speaker 1: oh Tom Telesco let go, Like okay, we can mourn
Speaker 1: him for a couple of days.
Speaker 4: I was shocked they.
Speaker 3: Fired to LESCo like he he hit, he hit one
Speaker 3: draft and he hit he got, you guys, the best
Speaker 3: tight end in the league.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even if it.
Speaker 1: Was on accident, Like even if he didn't plan for
Speaker 1: it to happen, right, I mean everything said they wanted
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix and the focus with surprize, and then they
Speaker 1: were like all right, Well, I guess we'll.
Speaker 4: Just take brock Bauers and it worked out.
Speaker 1: So, Yeah, some of the free agents coming up for
Speaker 1: the Raiders, Alexander Madison, I mean, Abdullah Tarras Marshall junior,
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter.
Speaker 4: The Marshall was the guys who knows who knows.
Speaker 1: Marshall was interesting because he started to get on the
Speaker 1: field late in the season, and I think everybody had
Speaker 1: the same reaction, like he caught a pass and a
Speaker 1: game late and hear everybody's like Sarah Marshall juniors with
Speaker 1: the Raiders, Like I think we all sort of collectively
Speaker 1: did that, Like, oh, I have no idea.
Speaker 4: We'll see if he's with the Raiders next year.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that gets us to time to see who will deliver.
Speaker 1: Presented by Uber Eats, Let's get back to brock Bowers
Speaker 1: because he is kind of the one thing that's really
Speaker 1: fun to talk.
Speaker 4: About with the Raiders right now.
Speaker 1: So I will ask each of you, both of you
Speaker 1: you Eat individually to plant the flag here in mid January.
Speaker 4: Will brock Bauers not can he?
Speaker 1: But will brock Bauers repeat as the tight end one
Speaker 1: throwing in for context the last player to go back
Speaker 1: to back as the tight end one overall, probably not
Speaker 1: a big surprise. It was Travis Kelcey in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: did it again in twenty twenty, Lakwan, I will start
Speaker 1: with you, will Brock Bauers if you had to say
Speaker 1: it right now in mid January?
Speaker 4: Will he be the tight end one?
Speaker 5: Yes, only because I do not expect good things from
Speaker 5: this offense and he remains to hyper focus and have
Speaker 5: a high target share. Like just being honest, there's not
Speaker 5: much of a talent threat around him versus with Trey
Speaker 5: McBride having Marmon Harrison junior.
Speaker 3: Hopefully Greg Dorsch is there as well next.
Speaker 5: Season, but I just feel like there's more talent around,
Speaker 5: you know, Trey McBride. But Brock Bowers, Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: he does the repeat back to back Florida.
Speaker 4: Does he go back to back?
Speaker 3: I think he should be the favorite to do so.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably a three man race between him, McBride,
Speaker 3: and Kittle. But I'll take the field just because you're
Speaker 3: giving me thirty one other options versus one, So that's
Speaker 3: really only thinking. But I do think Bowers should be
Speaker 3: viewed like again, it should be him and McBride as
Speaker 3: the top two tight ends going off the board, and
Speaker 3: I'm a sucker for Trey McBride, but I'll be honest,
Speaker 3: I probably won't have either one of them on my
Speaker 3: teams because I don't love if he's going a second
Speaker 3: round pick on a tight end either. I think what
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do with tight end this year is what
Speaker 3: I always It's January, We'll see I always get sucked
Speaker 3: into the middle tier like the donkin Caid's, the Kyle Pitts's.
Speaker 3: I think this year, I'm just gonna punk the position,
Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna suspend a second round pick on
Speaker 3: these two guys. So I'll just wait till the double
Speaker 3: digit rounds and hope I could find something off waivers
Speaker 3: or something. As the year JO get yourself from John Smith.
Speaker 3: This year you did better than drafting a tight end
Speaker 3: outside of the top ten.
Speaker 1: Sehan, Who's not gonna last tho the double digit rounds? Though,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the thing. I'm saying that right One.
Speaker 1: I'm planting my flag on two things right now. One,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna ask me right now, I say Trey
Speaker 1: McBride finishes the year as the tight end one, like
Speaker 1: he's gonna score more tons, he's gonna score more touchdowns
Speaker 1: next year. They're gonna work that out to make that happen.
Speaker 1: And if you were looking for a later round tight
Speaker 1: end to be your guy, Tyler Warren from Penn State,
Speaker 1: that's the guy that I am planting my flag on.
Speaker 1: He's going to be the next Like we're gonna go
Speaker 1: from Laporta to Bowers to Warren. I'm not sitting here
Speaker 1: telling you that Tyler Warren is going to be the
Speaker 1: tight end one. But if you're looking for a late
Speaker 1: round tight end, I think he's going to be the
Speaker 1: guy that.
Speaker 4: A lot of folks are going to be excited about.
Speaker 3: Black Licent, Ohio State gets you jail time.
Speaker 1: That's right, thank you, Thank goodness. I'm nowhere near Columbus
Speaker 1: right now. That's all I'm saying. I'm nowhere near Columbus anyway.
Speaker 4: That was Who Will Deliver.
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Speaker 4: Order. Now, all right, we're just getting started.
Speaker 1: We got a couple more teams to dive into the
Speaker 1: Jets because I think the Carolina Panthers will dive into that.
Speaker 1: Plus our divisional round preview that's coming up next on
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Pod. Continuing our exit interviews, we
Speaker 1: are doing draft picks five through eights and coming in
Speaker 1: at number seven the New York Jets.
Speaker 4: It went five and twelve.
Speaker 1: When I was going through the what went right, what
Speaker 1: went wrongs, it just so for one went right, I
Speaker 1: went Breeze Hall, I went Garrett Wilson, Breese Hall over
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred and fifty scrimmageyards, eight total touchdowns, the RB sixteen,
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson over one hundred catches, over eleven hundred yards,
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, the wide receiver ten. But Florida, it just
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like they went right right because of
Speaker 1: where we drafted them and what the expectations were. Like
Speaker 1: I think in a vacuum, if you look at it,
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, those are pretty good seasons. But it
Speaker 1: just felt like because our expectations were so high for
Speaker 1: both of those players. I mean, Brice Hall we were
Speaker 1: talking about is a top five, maybe even top three
Speaker 1: draft pick, depending on your situation. I don't know, just
Speaker 1: it felt disappointing. Even if I guess statistically it wasn't
Speaker 1: is that is that wrong?
Speaker 3: No? No, I think that you hit the nail on
Speaker 3: the head there. I think if you asked a football fan, like,
Speaker 3: did these guys have a good season, they would say yes.
Speaker 3: If you asked a Jets fan, and I have a
Speaker 3: chat with a lot of Jet fan friends, uh, they
Speaker 3: would say no. Like they were very disappointed in breze Hall.
Speaker 3: The inconsistency and it wasn't even bres Hall, it was
Speaker 3: the way he was used. But if you ask fantasy players,
Speaker 3: this was a huge disappointment for bris Hall because there
Speaker 3: was wars waged on Fantasy Twitter last summer who should
Speaker 3: be the RB two, Bijon or bris Hall and then
Speaker 3: he finishes as the RB sixteen and he had I
Speaker 3: believe I don't want to get the stat wrong, but
Speaker 3: I believe it was he had more games with single
Speaker 3: digit carries than he did with twenty or something along
Speaker 3: those lines, Like they just weren't using him well, they
Speaker 3: weren't using him near the goal line. And then for
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, like he was, he was putting up number
Speaker 3: He started off slow, then he put up numbers in
Speaker 3: the middle of the year, and then Devonsea Adams took
Speaker 3: over and it was extremely hit or missed, so like
Speaker 3: I didn't have a ton of either of them on
Speaker 3: my fantasy teams. But the bit that I did, I
Speaker 3: was like, they're too good nut to sit, Like you
Speaker 3: gotta start them every week. There's gonna be some weeks
Speaker 3: where you're happy, and more often than not, though, there's
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of weeks where you're like I
Speaker 3: expected better. So yeah, I I'm really curious, whethy, Like,
Speaker 3: where do you guys think Hall and Wilson get drafted
Speaker 3: next year?
Speaker 1: So I was gonna I'm gonna ask, so Lakwano, you
Speaker 1: have you have unequivalently said you are not taking a
Speaker 1: running back in the first round, that you're you're going
Speaker 1: to go wide receiver. Do you don't care where you're drafting,
Speaker 1: but look, somebody is going to take running backs in
Speaker 1: the first round. Do you envision Brice Hall being one
Speaker 1: of those guys that shows up in the first twelve picks?
Speaker 5: No, And my mock, I got him at two oh three,
Speaker 5: two a four, where I think he'll live and brief
Speaker 5: and this is very very early of where I got
Speaker 5: him because obviously he can move up based on different situations.
Speaker 5: But you literally, Marcus explained, like the numbers are good,
Speaker 5: but it was a disappointing.
Speaker 3: Show, and how are they not the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 5: Like the numbers in eight gree The show's discussing it's terrible,
Speaker 5: but it's entertaining. You cannot stop watching the circus. It's
Speaker 5: literally the Jets. Like I just feel as though, like
Speaker 5: if you're going to draft a Jets player, just whatever
Speaker 5: your draft is, just put in your mind and expectations
Speaker 5: that there's going to be ups and downs if Aaron
Speaker 5: Rodgers is still in that building come next season, like
Speaker 5: they need to blow the entire thing up, Like they
Speaker 5: need to start fresh at the quarterback position. Get Davonte
Speaker 5: Adams back to the Packers, since he's talking about in
Speaker 5: the interviews he wants to go back to Green Bay
Speaker 5: because they need a league guy. How'd you leave the
Speaker 5: first place they needed you then now they're trying to
Speaker 5: go back. But anyway, looking at the whole scope of it,
Speaker 5: like I just feel disgusting taking Garrett Wilson or Bris
Speaker 5: Hall in those first two rounds, just based on just
Speaker 5: the entire circus of this past season.
Speaker 3: What running backs do you have ahead of him and
Speaker 3: what right behind him?
Speaker 5: So I sayqua Bijon, Jamier Gibbs, Christian McCaffrey, Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3: That is literally the argument.
Speaker 5: You can't and there's a debate that you take Kyram
Speaker 5: Williams over Breese Hall and it's like he ends up
Speaker 5: almost RB seven.
Speaker 3: The only one I think you could debate is Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 3: and that just depends on if you want to take
Speaker 3: that risk or not.
Speaker 1: That's just the injury risk. Yeah, no, it's it really
Speaker 1: is the injury risk there. I if this is the
Speaker 1: consensus right, which means you have Breecee Hall falling to
Speaker 1: the second round, I can envision myself getting suckered back.
Speaker 4: Into Breese Hall again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's incredibly talented. I didn't really understand the
Speaker 1: usage for the jets of them just kind of sprinkling
Speaker 1: in other guys in the backfield.
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't really understand.
Speaker 1: You know, when we started seeing Braylan Braylan Adward, I
Speaker 1: almost call him Braylan Edwards, Breylan Allen, you know Isaiah Davis, Like,
Speaker 1: I didn't really understand that. I'm but if you know,
Speaker 1: we had a new head coach in here and maybe
Speaker 1: a new play caller that's just like, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 1: run the ball. We're gonna establish I don't even know established,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna use Breeze Hall. Like I can see
Speaker 1: myself getting sucked back into it. But if the going
Speaker 1: rate is the second round, I take that. No, I'll
Speaker 1: take that.
Speaker 3: What about these so a couple of names that LQ
Speaker 3: did not say that, I'm just like, I'm gonna throw, well, five,
Speaker 3: it's five, But I think you can make a case
Speaker 3: for all five of these names over him. Devon hn
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs, James Cook, Jonathan Taylor, Bucky Irving, Joe Mixon
Speaker 3: there Joe Mixon in there too.
Speaker 4: A yeah, So are we are?
Speaker 1: We? Are we right now putting Breeze Hall outside the
Speaker 1: top twelve running backs? Is he or is he right
Speaker 1: at He's sounds like he's right at twelve right now?
Speaker 3: Huh he's in that second year. That's still weird, Like
Speaker 3: I'm taking JT over him.
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a there's an honest debate
Speaker 1: to be had about all of this. But also because
Speaker 1: I think I'm still again, I'm still kind of a
Speaker 1: sucker for the talent. I just have this right now. Again,
Speaker 1: this being mid January and there's still a long way
Speaker 1: to go, but this feeling that Breeze Hawking ended up
Speaker 1: being one of those you know, late second round, early
Speaker 1: third round picks that we get to, like late October,
Speaker 1: you're like, man, we fed up letting him fall that
Speaker 1: fuck Like, like it just feels like it could be
Speaker 1: that way, but you know, on the flip side, it's
Speaker 1: the Jets, so it could just be like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: this was a mistake, like what are we doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what just blew my mind looking at
Speaker 3: it right now. Of the top twenty one running backs
Speaker 3: in Fantasy Points, the only two to not run for
Speaker 3: nine hundred yards are Breeze Hall and David Montgomery, who
Speaker 3: got hurt.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Montgomery had the like I got hurt and
Speaker 1: I'm sharing with another top tier back in Jamiir Gibbs.
Speaker 1: That sort of made sense the Breeze Hall went. I
Speaker 1: think this year is going to be a head scratcher
Speaker 1: for a really, really long time. You mentioned Jarrett Wilson too,
Speaker 1: I mean, how much of Garrett Wilson is going to
Speaker 1: be dependent on.
Speaker 4: Waves?
Speaker 1: It everything? Play call her quarterback? Like all of that
Speaker 1: For Garrett Wilson, Yes.
Speaker 6: He also is unhappy he'd be somewhere if he goes
Speaker 6: somewhere with a good quarterback.
Speaker 3: I'm immediately right back in.
Speaker 1: Will the Jets really prioritize Aaron Rodgers over Garrett Wilson?
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's it's very dumb. But if any
Speaker 3: if I told you eighteen wants to do it, the
Speaker 3: Jets are probably the first one that come to mind.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I mean you're right, You're right.
Speaker 3: They'll be back to square one at quarterback. Who are
Speaker 3: they going to bring in? Who are they going to
Speaker 3: They should just play Tyrod Taylor. I think, like, this
Speaker 3: is I this is It sounds dumb, but I've said
Speaker 3: this to my Jet fan friends a lot. They should
Speaker 3: sign Rex Ryan higher Rex Ryan, I've leave and give
Speaker 3: him two years and just be like, look, if it
Speaker 3: doesn't work out, you're gone and we're blowing everything up.
Speaker 3: But like, let's see if we can make the most
Speaker 3: out of this. Unless they really like Glenn and he
Speaker 3: wants that job, but it seems like that not that
Speaker 3: job is not that in demand right now, and Rex
Speaker 3: is publicly checked. I'm like, yo, be fun at least
Speaker 3: like if you're gonna be bad, be entertaining, Lake Jersey shure, Yes,
Speaker 3: there you go.
Speaker 1: I just I can't. I can't envision any right thinking
Speaker 1: person really gonna side with a temperamental declining in skills
Speaker 1: forty something year old quarterback over an incredibly talented soon
Speaker 1: to be twenty five year old wide receiver. But I
Speaker 1: also never imagine that a NFL franchise would make personnel
Speaker 1: decisions based on Madden Rating.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 3: There are the ones. Oh so you think they like
Speaker 3: if Breicehall struggles as Madden rating goes down, and like
Speaker 3: they get you for that, and.
Speaker 1: Then there's like and then the Jets were like, maybe
Speaker 1: we should have rid of this guy? Is Madden rating stinks?
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing?
Speaker 4: Just man snake eating its own tail?
Speaker 1: Uh? Ending free agents? Tyler Conklin. My question for what
Speaker 1: I had on the rundown just peek behind the curtain
Speaker 1: for y'all. I was really struggling to come up with
Speaker 1: something to talk about with the Jets, and my question
Speaker 1: was just like, why are the Jets?
Speaker 4: And I think we sort of dissected why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew that wasn't the typo by the way.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't a type of like I just really
Speaker 1: didn't know what specifically to ask.
Speaker 4: But it seems like we've sort of broken this link down.
Speaker 5: I text you, I was like, I'm struggling to figure
Speaker 5: out how to answer this question.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm struggling to come up with
Speaker 1: a questions.
Speaker 4: That's what it is, all right.
Speaker 1: The number eight pick belongs to the Carolina Panthers. They
Speaker 1: were five and twelve h easily. What went right was
Speaker 1: Chewba Hubbard in a year where we were all unanimous
Speaker 1: that like, hey, man, go draft Jonathan Brooks. You might
Speaker 1: have to wait a few weeks. Yeah, but Jonathan Brooks
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy. I mean, Chewba Hubbard
Speaker 1: is just he's just a seat filler. And you know
Speaker 1: it won't It won't be too long before Brooks is
Speaker 1: in there and Chuba Hubbard basically just stiff armed Jonathan
Speaker 1: Brooks for most of the season. Thirteen hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: six scrimmage yards, eleven total touchdowns, running back fourteen. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: suffered an injury late in the season, didn't get to
Speaker 1: finish out the year, but a phenomenal season for a
Speaker 1: guy that we were drafting sort of as like a
Speaker 1: hey man like, draft him. Now you have to use
Speaker 1: it for a few weeks and eventually he'll go to
Speaker 1: the bench and you can, I don't know, trade him,
Speaker 1: do whatever. And it turned out that he was a
Speaker 1: worthwhile starter all year long. The other thing that went
Speaker 1: right was late season Bryce Young, But what went wrong
Speaker 1: was the early season Bryce Young. So I mean, Lakwan,
Speaker 1: I'll ask you, I mean, with Bryce Song, where are.
Speaker 4: We what are we thinking about him?
Speaker 1: Because even at his best, like he was kind of
Speaker 1: a barely usable fantasy starter. This feels like one of
Speaker 1: those things where it was encouraging, but we're still not
Speaker 1: at hashtag good yet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not as good yet, but it's definitely one
Speaker 5: of those things, like a hot take. I could say
Speaker 5: right now in January that Bryce Shong will be a
Speaker 5: top twelve quarterback and I say that because we saw
Speaker 5: him play with confidence, him having fun out there. He
Speaker 5: has weapons all around him. And I think now that
Speaker 5: you know they go in the draft, they have draft pick,
Speaker 5: they have stock, they can keep adding to this arsenal.
Speaker 5: They can keep adding weapons around him. And John out
Speaker 5: to Chuba Hubbard having the season he's had. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 5: they established a run a lot and that's what open
Speaker 5: up a lot for Bryce Young, having a capable running back,
Speaker 5: having a capable offense that have some functionality for him
Speaker 5: to go out there and ball out. But overall, I
Speaker 5: like a lot of the Carolina Panthers pieces in fantasy
Speaker 5: if they fall to me in drafts. I'd like Sanders
Speaker 5: at the tight end position. He's young, he's up and coming.
Speaker 5: I'd like obviously Chuba Hubbard, and you have Xavier Lee.
Speaker 3: Get that.
Speaker 5: You know he's coming along as well. So this entire
Speaker 5: Panthers offense, you're just looking at it like hmm, I
Speaker 5: can't wait to get these guys as flex options or
Speaker 5: even like wide receiver two options.
Speaker 1: That was gonna my next question Florida about the wide receivers, right,
Speaker 1: because let's let's go way back to about this time
Speaker 1: last year, maybe a little later, but Deoncey Johnson was
Speaker 1: supposed to be the savior of this offense, right he
Speaker 1: has he's run through three teams or three teams have
Speaker 1: just passed him around at this point, and he's him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw flashes from Leguette, we saw a
Speaker 1: little bit from Jalen Cocher adam feeling and it took
Speaker 1: some pet pills or something late in it. That's metaphor
Speaker 1: I suggesting that he was out here doing you know, drugs,
Speaker 1: but like had some metaphorical pet pills late in the season.
Speaker 4: They gotta get going.
Speaker 1: But like, is there anybody that you're really like super
Speaker 1: excited about beyond say a late round flyer at this point.
Speaker 3: No, But I don't believe their wide receiver one is
Speaker 3: on their roster right now, or at least I don't
Speaker 3: believe that they they wanted to be Like, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be surprised if they in the draft or or signed
Speaker 3: someone or did something like that. The other thing is
Speaker 3: I am a Bryce Young supporter. Look, any quarterback was
Speaker 3: under six foot, I'm going to go to back but
Speaker 3: Kings Unite, Yeah, exactly. And I was on Twitter a
Speaker 3: lot this year being like Bryce Young is looking the
Speaker 3: part in all of that. And there's a difference though
Speaker 3: between playing well and being good for fantasy, and Bryce
Speaker 3: Young wasn't great for fantasy as good as he was
Speaker 3: playing in real life. Like you look at his game
Speaker 3: logs from week twelve on, he topped two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty passing yards three times, and twice it was two
Speaker 3: sixty three and two fifty one. Never hit three hundred routinely,
Speaker 3: was around two hundred or less. So like there's room
Speaker 3: for growth, there's room for optimism. I think you feel
Speaker 3: very good right now if you are a Panthers fan.
Speaker 3: I think the verdict on Bryce Young was way premature,
Speaker 3: but not enough for me to really be bullish and
Speaker 3: pull someone up the draft board from his pass kid
Speaker 3: from what his past catcher group currently is. Although I
Speaker 3: say that and I was the one that was pounding
Speaker 3: the table last year for Deon s Johnson and Jonathan Brooks,
Speaker 3: but really Deon say Johnson a whole lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think you were alone. I
Speaker 4: think a lot of us were.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I say this as somebody who you know,
Speaker 1: went to you know who wrote the sleeper column and
Speaker 1: kept going back to the Bryce Young well over and
Speaker 1: over again late in the season, like after he came
Speaker 1: back from getting benched, he was playing better, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't always translating fantasy wise, right, So it's like you
Speaker 1: looked at the matches, Hey, maybe it's a good matchup,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's fourteen points, it's fifteen points,
Speaker 1: it's twelve points. Like it was something that looked better
Speaker 1: on the field. We talked on you know, on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we talked about Drake Mang and sort of said it
Speaker 1: was a kind of you had to be there sort
Speaker 1: of moment, and I sort of feel that way with
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, where you know, when you watched him it
Speaker 1: looked better, although that also might have had something to
Speaker 1: do with how bad it looked at the start of
Speaker 1: the season. It just wasn't a thing that really really
Speaker 1: translated for fantasy.
Speaker 3: What's wild that we're not talking about c J. Stroud
Speaker 3: and how they kind of think most like I mean
Speaker 3: CJ at QB eighteen, Bryce Young at twenty, Like I'm
Speaker 3: just sitting here just saying, like he helped a couple
Speaker 3: of people out though you're.
Speaker 1: Right, no, I mean they sort of they sort of emerged,
Speaker 1: They kind of came back together again this year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they came back together conversation, but in a
Speaker 5: negative light. But I don't know, man, I'm taking the
Speaker 5: flyer on Bryce Young, Like I just feel confident that
Speaker 5: you know, when you do draft him, he's obviously your
Speaker 5: QB two or if you're in super flexily, he's your
Speaker 5: QB three. There's just some upside there. There's something that
Speaker 5: we're not really seeing. Yeah, maybe you know, maybe it's
Speaker 5: worth diving back.
Speaker 3: Yet it was running more, which is great for him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rushing touchdown numbers late in the season really
Speaker 1: helped a lot. I that's the feeling. A thing though
Speaker 1: that I don't know is sustainable. Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm the I want him running a whole lot,
Speaker 1: you know. So it worked out. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if that's a thing that comes back again next year
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 4: Lay what are we doing about Jonathan Brooks?
Speaker 3: Though I'm not drafting him? And I say this as
Speaker 3: someone who wrote an article in the summer ten Biggest
Speaker 3: League Winners and had him as number one. I thought
Speaker 3: he was gonna be on the Todd Gurley path, like,
Speaker 3: miss the first few games of the year and then
Speaker 3: maybe a game or two to get acclimated and then
Speaker 3: just run wild. And it did not one. Look at
Speaker 3: how they slow play, and look now in retrospect, it
Speaker 3: looks like they did the right thing, but look at
Speaker 3: how they slow played this last season. We didn't see
Speaker 3: him return until double digit weeks and then he tore
Speaker 3: his ACL later this year than he had the prior year.
Speaker 3: Now it's two. I don't want to wait until week twelve.
Speaker 3: Like when I tell you that Jonathan Brooks was on
Speaker 3: almost every one of my rosters this year, it was
Speaker 3: so annoy being like I have this spot my IR
Speaker 3: team's okay, but leaves that didn't have an IR, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm wasting a spot here. And like when the buys
Speaker 3: hit an injuries start hitting, You're like, I don't want
Speaker 3: to drop this guy because I've already waited seven weeks,
Speaker 3: but like it's the sucking cost fallacy or whatever it
Speaker 3: is and stuff like that. And uh, he's more someone
Speaker 3: that I could see getting drafted and then throw him
Speaker 3: back on waivers or something like that. And if he does,
Speaker 3: that's how I'll have him on my teams. But I'm
Speaker 3: not taking a unless I'm in a keeper league with
Speaker 3: an IR spot, I'm not gonna stash him on my
Speaker 3: bench all year.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the thing, Like one you have
Speaker 1: this situation where suba got paid, then you have books
Speaker 1: getting hurt, so I just, yeah, it feels tough, which
Speaker 1: is a tough start to the season for Brooks or
Speaker 1: the career, I should say for Brooks.
Speaker 4: It just makes it tough to really count on him
Speaker 4: for Fantasy.
Speaker 3: Two ACL tears in thirteen months, that is insane.
Speaker 1: That's brutal, just brutal, absolutely brutal. Certainly, you know, best
Speaker 1: wishes in his recovery and we'd love to see him
Speaker 1: get on the field and get some actual time there.
Speaker 1: So we'll see when that is going to happen. We
Speaker 1: know there's going to be games on the field this week,
Speaker 1: the Divisional Round hits coming up on Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break, come back in preview the four
Speaker 1: games that you expect to see this week.
Speaker 4: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
Speaker 1: We are through the Wildcard round. We are onto the
Speaker 1: Divisional Round. Four games on DAP this week, just a
Speaker 1: quick preview as we get ready to wrap up the show.
Speaker 1: We'll start with the Texans and the Chiefs and Kawani last,
Speaker 1: because look, the Texans defense has been really the thing
Speaker 1: kind of keeping this team afloat for much of the
Speaker 1: year because CJ. Stroud, We've talked about plenty of times,
Speaker 1: has been very inconsistent. The offense lost two big pieces
Speaker 1: with Stefan Diggs and Tank Dell, Joe Mixon kind of
Speaker 1: faded down the stretch. So can they Texans defense do
Speaker 1: enough to disrupt the Chiefs offense because it feels like
Speaker 1: that's really the only way they can win.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean the Texans defense, they're disciplined, They're one of
Speaker 5: the best defenses in the league. They had an amazing
Speaker 5: regular season in the stats, I mean, top of the
Speaker 5: table when it comes to delivering pressure, getting sacks and
Speaker 5: creating turnovers and taking the ball away. But they're going
Speaker 5: against the God of Mischief Loki. They're going against pat
Speaker 5: To Mahomes. So we're calling him now, Yeah, he's Loki, man.
Speaker 5: He is creative, he adapts to every situation. He's unpredictable.
Speaker 5: He's one of those quarterbacks you just can't count out.
Speaker 5: And that sounds exactly like Loki, who finds his way
Speaker 5: clean out of any situation. He adapts to the God
Speaker 5: of mischief. Man, this is Loki they're going up against.
Speaker 5: And are you really going to bet against Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 5: as good as his text defenses, Like, I think they
Speaker 5: will be disruptive, but it's Patrick Mahomes at the end.
Speaker 3: Of the day.
Speaker 1: So the difference is like Loki started off as kind
Speaker 1: of a bad guy with him, by.
Speaker 4: The end it kind of come around.
Speaker 1: It was sort of working like with the Avengers, I
Speaker 1: would say, Mahomes has kind of gone the other way,
Speaker 1: where like at the beginning.
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, this is kind of fine, Will
Speaker 4: and now.
Speaker 1: It's just like, no, man, I've had enough done like that.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the only that's the only difference I
Speaker 1: would have with that one there. But yeah, I get
Speaker 1: the Census could be a lower scoring game. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, because the Chiefs offense is starting
Speaker 1: to come online. They just kept getting guys back and
Speaker 1: adding pieces and getting healthier and you know, starting to
Speaker 1: figure some things out. We know their defense is very
Speaker 1: good against a questionable Texans offense. I really think the
Speaker 1: Texans have to force some turnovers and and try to
Speaker 1: set up short fields as much as possible to stay
Speaker 1: in this game.
Speaker 4: Otherwise it you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's no way I think the Texans can score with
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and try to go back and forth that
Speaker 1: way and be successful.
Speaker 3: How how do you guys feel about because we've seen
Speaker 3: we saw this game the week before Christmas, So like,
Speaker 3: how do you feel about when it's two non divisional
Speaker 3: opponents matching up for a second time, because we had
Speaker 3: it twice last weekend and the Commanders beat the Bucks,
Speaker 3: which happened flip, but then the Rams beat the Vikings again,
Speaker 3: so like we it was split results there.
Speaker 1: I think when the teams are a little bit closer together,
Speaker 1: Like I just think there's a big gap between the
Speaker 1: Texans and the Chiefs, right like I think I think
Speaker 1: with Bucks and Commanders, you could make a case that
Speaker 1: they were a little more evenly matched. I think the Rams,
Speaker 1: after that bad start, the one and four start, like,
Speaker 1: the Rams were one of the best teams in the
Speaker 1: league the rest of the season, So I think you
Speaker 1: could make the case that you know that it was
Speaker 1: possible that that could happen.
Speaker 4: I didn't think they would.
Speaker 1: I think they would blow them out, blow out the
Speaker 1: Vikings the way they did it, But I could believe
Speaker 1: that they would win.
Speaker 4: I just don't think.
Speaker 1: I think the gap between the tie the Texans and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs is.
Speaker 4: Too big for that thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of the Commanders, Florio Commanders at Lions, like
Speaker 1: the commander defense is good, not necessarily great the Lions
Speaker 1: defense even with all the injuries.
Speaker 4: I mean, shout out.
Speaker 1: To Aaron Glenn for keeping this group together and having
Speaker 1: them continue to be productive. This feels like one I
Speaker 1: said that I don't think the Texans can outscore the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Does Jaden Daniels have to outscore the Lions? Does he
Speaker 1: have to try to match Jared goffin the Lions for
Speaker 1: the Commanders to win this thing?
Speaker 3: Yes, if they're going to win unique and this is
Speaker 3: out before the Lions played the Vikings. One thing I
Speaker 3: kept saying on Twitter was like, yeah, everyone could point
Speaker 3: out how bad the Lions defense is and how many
Speaker 3: players they're missing and all of this stuff, you still
Speaker 3: have to outrun them in a track race. And one
Speaker 3: team was able to do that, the Buffalo Bills. But
Speaker 3: besides that, every team has come up short. And this
Speaker 3: is gonna be a wacky game where I keep joking,
Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna see any field goals. I
Speaker 3: don't thin we're gonna see any punts. I think it's
Speaker 3: just gonna be touchdowns or turnovers and that's it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: Jaden's gonna have to go out there and put up
Speaker 3: thirty something points and I as much as I love
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels, I would be shocked if the Commanders pulled
Speaker 3: this one off because the Commanders did have a lot
Speaker 3: of bounces go their way in season and even this
Speaker 3: past week against the Bucks. Like you could argue that
Speaker 3: they cost themselves a lot of points by being overly aggressive,
Speaker 3: and you could also argue that if Baker doesn't fumble
Speaker 3: the ball late, they don't win this game. So if
Speaker 3: the margin of error is that close against the Bucks,
Speaker 3: good luck going into Detroit, which I think is going
Speaker 3: to be of all the venues this weekend, I think
Speaker 3: Detroit is going to have the biggest impact.
Speaker 4: It's going to be insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah at Ford Field, I mean, the Lions are the
Speaker 1: one seed they had to buy. The fan base has
Speaker 1: been hungry for ever, I mean literally ever. This is
Speaker 1: their moment. Like it's going to be a really, really
Speaker 1: tough place to play. I would say in that regard,
Speaker 1: if I'm the Commanders, I just say to hell with it,
Speaker 1: right because everything is stacked together. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: you know, there's the shirts stuff out there that say
Speaker 1: Detroit versus everybody, But like the Lions would kind of
Speaker 1: become America's team right now, the commanders, like, you're going
Speaker 1: in there, nobody expects you to win. You know you were,
Speaker 1: you were excited to get your first win against Tampa.
Speaker 1: I go in there, I just say, to hell with it,
Speaker 1: Like nobody expects anything from us. Let's just play loose,
Speaker 1: let's get crazy, let's get nuts, and let's see if
Speaker 1: maybe we can shock the world a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think that's sort of we'll see.
Speaker 1: Lakwan Rams at Eagles. Your guys are on the road,
Speaker 1: like actually on the road, like an actual road game
Speaker 1: as a post, like the neutral site game they played
Speaker 1: last week. I mean, I think we know a lot
Speaker 1: about the offenses, but as I was looking at this game,
Speaker 1: it really feels like it's the offensive lines versus the
Speaker 1: defensive lines, and the Rams have been so successful because
Speaker 1: they've been able to get pressure on quarterbacks, whether it's
Speaker 1: Verse Fisk, all those guys up front. Literally, the Eagles
Speaker 1: are going to try to get after Matthew Stafford. Who
Speaker 1: wins that battle between you know, the old lines and
Speaker 1: the d lines there.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: I mean, when I saw this question, I'm like, I
Speaker 5: really want to be unbiased. I want to be honest
Speaker 5: and honestly, I just think it's going to be the
Speaker 5: Rams are going to win on both sides of the trenches.
Speaker 5: I feel like na Kobe Dean being out that's a huge,
Speaker 5: huge factor for us. That's a good win for us
Speaker 5: because look, Matthew Stafford was sacked five times. That was
Speaker 5: tied of seasonne you know the Cardinals were the other
Speaker 5: team to do it. But you're looking at Nacobe Dean
Speaker 5: the amount of disruption that he causing that game. Him
Speaker 5: not being on the field is a plus for us,
Speaker 5: and I think we can get the bonehead mistakes out
Speaker 5: with the penalties out of the way. Bo Limmer, you
Speaker 5: know he's stepping up being at the young guy he
Speaker 5: is in the center, holding down in the trenches and
Speaker 5: protect Matthew Stafford now on the defensive side of the trenches.
Speaker 5: I don't care about pressure this game. Do not have
Speaker 5: Jared Vers going off the edge, going at the Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5: I want you to cover the edge, just stuffed the middle.
Speaker 5: You got Braden Fist there, you got Kobe Turner there
Speaker 5: that will just genuinely get after Jail and hurt and
Speaker 5: create their own natural pressure. We need to sustain Saquon
Speaker 5: Barkley like, for the next twenty four hours, I need
Speaker 5: Sean McVay to lock itself in the room and watch
Speaker 5: the Eagles film. But then for the next seventy two hours,
Speaker 5: you watch Saquon Barkley up to the whistle to stop him,
Speaker 5: because that needs to be the game plan, the only
Speaker 5: game plan for us to come out as winners in
Speaker 5: the trenches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all fair.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think the defense that does
Speaker 1: a better job of disrupting the quarterback is going to
Speaker 1: be the team that wins. I mean, it sounds simple,
Speaker 1: but I think that's really going to be the case.
Speaker 1: If if the Rams can get to Jalen Hurts, who
Speaker 1: was not great last week, if they can get to him,
Speaker 1: I think I think they have a chance to win.
Speaker 1: If you know, the Eagles can find a way to
Speaker 1: make life rough on Matthew Stafford, and I think they win.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think it's that simple because
Speaker 1: I think I think the quarterbacks are fairly even. I
Speaker 1: think the you know, the skill position guys. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's one giant advantage to one side or another.
Speaker 1: There's really gonna be about the guys up front that
Speaker 1: make the difference in this game, yeah, last one and
Speaker 1: the Marquee game. At least on paper of the weekend
Speaker 1: Ravens at Bills, it appears that Florida will be watching
Speaker 1: from his couch in the western part of Los Angeles. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I know the story is the quarterbacks, right, it's Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson versus Josh Allen. But taking those guys aside, who
Speaker 1: or what do you think is the biggest X factor
Speaker 1: in this game?
Speaker 3: I think there's two. One is more of a football
Speaker 3: thing and one is not. I think the football thing
Speaker 3: is how the Bills handle the Ravens running backs. Because
Speaker 3: Derek Henry went for two hundred yards and two touchdowns
Speaker 3: should have been three, he literally fumbled the third one
Speaker 3: that got recovered in the end zone. And then when
Speaker 3: they played in Week four. But what I think it's
Speaker 3: overlooked in that game is Justice Hill had six catches
Speaker 3: for seventy eight yards and a touchdown. And the Bills
Speaker 3: have struck against pass catching running backs all years. So
Speaker 3: if you get Dereck Henry running downhill and then Justice
Speaker 3: Hill beating you out of the backfield as a pass catcher,
Speaker 3: it's going to be a very, very long day for
Speaker 3: the Bills. If you can bottle those guys up, I
Speaker 3: think things will go the Bills way because it then
Speaker 3: takes me to my not so much X as a
Speaker 3: o's factor, which is the mental side of it.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 3: This is going to be the coldest game that Derrick
Speaker 3: Henry and Lamar Jackson have ever played in, and it's
Speaker 3: not all that close. It's also Lamar Jackson has never
Speaker 3: in his career thrown a passing touchdown on the road
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Granted he's only played two road playoff games.
Speaker 3: But I think if whoever comes out and takes charge
Speaker 3: first is going to win this game. Because if you're
Speaker 3: the Bills and you score first, now the Ravens, especially
Speaker 3: if you could take like a two score lead, let's
Speaker 3: say by some chance you have like they can't just
Speaker 3: run downhill with Dereck Henry and they have to try
Speaker 3: to come back on the in those cold elements potentially
Speaker 3: without Ze Flowers. Meanwhile, if you are the Ravens and
Speaker 3: you jump out to an early lead, now you just
Speaker 3: you grind the clock with Derek Henry, that opens up
Speaker 3: everything for Lamar's legs and everything, and they'll just bully
Speaker 3: the Bills. They will they have more, they're bigger on
Speaker 3: offense and the Bills are on defense, and we've seen
Speaker 3: them do it all year long. If they get out
Speaker 3: to a lead, they play bullyball, and they are the
Speaker 3: best in the NFL at playing bullyball. So the way
Speaker 3: to prevent them from doing that is by scoring early.
Speaker 3: So I think the running backs are the big football thing,
Speaker 3: but even more so, I think how the teams handle
Speaker 3: the weather and who scores, who takes charge first, I
Speaker 3: think is gonna have a huge impact on this game.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying if they can figure out how
Speaker 1: to bottle up Dereck Henry and Justice Hill, which.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not wrong. That is way easier said
Speaker 1: than done. I mean, there are how many teams out
Speaker 1: there who who have been trying to do that and
Speaker 1: have unsuccessful at it.
Speaker 4: And I looked at it last Yeah. Uh, I mean
Speaker 4: I look.
Speaker 1: At last week though with the Steelers, and after that game,
Speaker 1: you know, a reporter asked Lamar Jackson about how the
Speaker 1: Steelers were trying to stop you know, the the option
Speaker 1: there with the with Derek Henry and Lamar and he said,
Speaker 1: were you surprised that they gave you so much running room,
Speaker 1: and Lamar was like, no, He's like, honestly, he's I
Speaker 1: thought they defended it. Well, you know they had they
Speaker 1: had JJ Watt or a TJ Watt rather, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to crash down and they had, you know, different schemes.
Speaker 1: He's like, we just outplayed them. You know, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't because you know, they had a bad idea
Speaker 1: or a bad plan.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And that is sort of where Lamar Jackson is kind
Speaker 1: of that X factor where you can do everything right
Speaker 1: and then Lamar just goes Lamar on you and there's
Speaker 1: nothing you can really do about it, you know. I
Speaker 1: think I saw a quote, I think Sean McDermot saw
Speaker 1: the quote from earlier this week that was just like,
Speaker 1: Lamar is a one of one, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: we'll try our best to kind of approximate that in practice,
Speaker 1: but you can't really do that because there's just nobody
Speaker 1: out there like Lamar Jackson. But similarly, and a lot
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen's out there either too.
Speaker 3: Which team do you think could survive their quarterback not
Speaker 3: playing their best? Because I think it's an easy answer.
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's the Ravens that can more.
Speaker 3: Survive, which is why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if if Josh Allen doesn't played well, I think
Speaker 4: the Bills are cooked.
Speaker 3: If you're telling me that the Ravens have could beat
Speaker 3: the Bills on the road without Lamar playing well and
Speaker 3: they are favorites, I'm like, how is MVP of really
Speaker 3: an argument? But I know it, But come on, man, Like,
Speaker 3: I think that narrative alone defeats everything. Like if you're
Speaker 3: telling me one guy could play bad and still win
Speaker 3: and the other has no chance, one guy means more
Speaker 3: to this team.
Speaker 4: I you know what, it is a strong argument.
Speaker 3: Like that.
Speaker 4: It is a strong argument, A strong argument.
Speaker 1: Indeed, I should be a lot of fun this weekend,
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. We'll be back next week to
Speaker 1: kind of recap some of that and continue along with
Speaker 1: the exit interviews as well. We will get through picks
Speaker 1: nine through twelve coming up next Tuesday, So that should
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun as well. So in the
Speaker 1: meantime though, that'll do it for this edition of the
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, save and healthy.
Speaker 4: Do good and live well.
Speaker 1: Enjoy the weekend, enjoy the football, everybody, and we will
Speaker 1: talk to you again next week.