1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one uh NonStop 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: infotainment laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well, we are thrilled to be 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: joined by the very funny and talented brighter and podcaster 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: who you can hear on the wonderful NBA Baseline podcast 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: uh and his new podcast Never Meet Your Heroes, which 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: he tells you all the most shocking details and twists 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: and turns from celebrity back stories like Mark Wahlberg Shila 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: buff We'll have to ask him if he included Miles 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: Gray's rat on the limit in the UH in that backstory. 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Also Michael Jordans, He's one of the best follows on Twitter. 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Please welcome back to the show. Jabari OHI David. Hey guys, 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me again. I'm not gonna alloe 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: to you. I've already made the determination I'm never going 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: to over you know, like out do you guys? With 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: the intro, So my a k A is a co 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: worker last week told me you're exactly like sugar Knight 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: except for nice. And I guess what they really mean, 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: because I've been told this many times before, is you're 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: a big black guy with shaved head, so that's cool, 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: and you got a beard too. Nice good. It was 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: right there, It was right and you know what I'm 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: stealing that right? You got? He's like, oh, I'm like sugar, 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: and you hold their ass over the edge of your 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: royalties right now? Yeah, exactly. You think that you're stereotypical bullshit? 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Remind me another time. I'll tell you. I'll tell you 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: a story about signing up for that man's you know, 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: that man's big hit song at karaoke there in the 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: valley and he walked out because he was upset. Oh 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: wait what he was at the karaoke bar in Ireland 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: thirty two. It's a it's a spot that's over there. 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: I think, what is it like Burbank or not Burbank, 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: like Van Eyes or whatnot? I was there, you know, 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: Rob Vand was it Rob band Weak? Vanilla Ice was there. 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: He was in the bag. He's having a good time. 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Folks are showing low. So I figured, hey, look we're here, 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and do this. I signed up 40 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: for it. The song came on, he gets up and 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: walks out because, like, I guess it was offended by it, 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: but whatever, because you did maybe Yeah, it's like broken 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: what we know you're from? Yeah, I thought it was 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: respect that song. Have you ever made loving an inner tube? 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: But Vanilla ice off of to the extreme? Is that 46 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: a song? That's not the title, but he talks about 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: making loving an entery tube, which is like the sort 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: of thing that a middle school student which I was 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: at the time, or I think elementary actually would like 50 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: think was cool, Like yeah, anyway, had sex would be 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: like that. That sounds really like uncomfortable and difficult. You 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: gotta come from Tuban culture, not just Retuban but inner 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: Tuban and embrace your inner Tuban while you're inner Tuban 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: as filize. Yeah, we like to ask our guest, what 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: is something from your search history? Last night, I was 56 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: reading about boxers because everybody was watching the no like 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: like like the Fisty Cuffs was because m my friend 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: Jay King was talking about Logan Paul, the logan or 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Jake Paul who's the one who fights mm A or 60 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: whatever they both do, just talking about how Jake is 61 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: like a good character for fighting because he's like a 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: villain and everyone knows it and wants to see him 63 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: get punched in the face. And if you know that, 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: you're the guy back to the karate kids. If you're 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: the guy that like people will tune in to see 66 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: you get punched in the face and you're cool with that, 67 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: that's a good lane. That's a good lane. So yeah, 68 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: I was comparing him to other I was trying to 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: look up, like who were some other like famous Irish boxers, 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: and then I found this guy whose name I already forget, 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: but who was like a famous Irish boxer who was 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: also like an actor, and I was like, that's Jake Paul. Yeah, 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: and he was he also doing like black people versus 74 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: white people boxing matches too. I mean, I think that 75 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: was also what the nineteen thirties was all about, right 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: in the ring folks, right, because I was like, Oh, 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: it's weird that all the boxers were black, Jewish, Italian 78 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: and Irish almost like those are the people that had 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: to take the money to get their lives punched out, right, 80 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Like sort of did you see yesterday? A lot of 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: people are like, did he take money to lose that fight? 82 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Because everyone was like, if you just kept fighting him, 83 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: you would have probably won. But then Woodley lost in 84 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: his spit decision. Yeah, and everybody was mad because they 85 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: just tuned in to see Jake Paul got his lights clock. Yeah. 86 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: And that's the thing, you know what, And it's perfectly 87 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: as a money making scheme, that's what you do. It's like, 88 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: well that's what I was saying, like for a YouTuber, 89 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: if you can get paid to just get punched in 90 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: the face and you get like a few million dollars 91 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: every time, Like do that, untol and you're an idiot 92 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: who doesn't need a brain to function, Keep doing that. Yeah. 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: But then also recently I looked up the Paul siblings 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: and found out we have the exact same white ethnic 95 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: background related to the brothers. Yeah, they're a little bit Irish, 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: English and a little bit German and Jewish allegedly, Okay, 97 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I think I was also like, the Paul brothers are Jewish, 98 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: Like I know nothing? And also is that my internalized 99 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: anti Semitism for seeing these blonde idiot guys and not 100 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: thinking try you know, aryan gods fighting on pay per 101 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: view or most people are. The other part is I 102 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: like how many people steal the fights to to also 103 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: be like, first of all, I need to see him 104 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: get his as beat. Part two, I'm not paying to 105 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: get his ass beat because I know part three he 106 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: probably has the fight rigged or something. I don't know. Yeah, 107 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: he keeps fighting. I mean he's carefully like selecting his opponents. 108 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: Even though this guy was a professional mm A fighter 109 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: who used to be successfully, he hadn't want to fight 110 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: and like eight fights and he's smaller than him, he 111 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: keeps fighting people who are much smaller than him because 112 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: he's figured out that that's a massive advantage people basically 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: outside his weight class. They're sort of turning it into wrestling, 114 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: which is like, yeah, pretty smart. Yeah, absolutely, it's very 115 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean if he hadn't invented himself, like a like 116 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: wrestling or like boxing promoter would have invented him to 117 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: make money off of like evil social media influencer guy 118 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: who everybody wants to see get destroyed, who like keeps 119 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: selecting his his opponents so that they will never destroy him. 120 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: And we just keep tuning and being like this is 121 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: the one I really want. The guy who's sixty lighter 122 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: and a nine inches shorter. This time. This will be 123 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: the one that will be Yeah, I had no hope 124 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: for this last one. I am hoping that he fights 125 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett though, the guy from the Browns, who would 126 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: just fucking demolish him. I hope he fights Miles Great. Yeah, 127 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I thought, yeah, yeah, I feel 128 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: like Smiles I back. You could take him, fight dirty, 129 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: you could sucking you could, you could hurt Jake Paul 130 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: or I'll just start off crying again. Though. You might 131 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: just see him at a Calabasas house party and like 132 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: right exactly and then like push him. He looks at 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: you the wrong way, and he says, he says, what 134 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: are you doing? And he does look just like Zapka, 135 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: the villain from the Karate Kid if he's like, hey, 136 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: what are these uh East Valley kids doing out here 137 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: in count Basses? Like, oh, what are we doing here? Well? 138 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Maybe and then we're just all the goons come in 139 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: and we and we steal all the things that aren't 140 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: nailed down like we would at old house parties. And 141 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: does everybody come out o this ashtray? It was made 142 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: of marble? What is something you think is overrated? Yeah? 143 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't know Honestly, I feel like somebody must have 144 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: said this at some point, but I'm just gonna throw 145 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: out almonds. When he talked about almonds, yeah, I mean 146 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: they take up way too much water. Yeah yeah, and 147 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: they just kind of taste like ship. Yeah, it's like 148 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: what if what if peanuts were like made of wood, 149 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're made of the vibe though that is Yeah, 150 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: they're like they're like splintering your mouth. I'm with you, 151 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: like they're like and then yeah, they raw like a 152 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: raw almond is just like I have the same thing 153 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: with carrots. It's just something about the texture. Yea bad. 154 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm not the big and they're they're like bad for 155 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, all that water to use a Yeah, no 156 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: funk almonds for real? Like does this extent to almond 157 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: milk for you? Yes, yes it does. It does because 158 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: we have oat milk now, so we don't need almond 159 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: milk anymore. And coconut milk if you're if you're trying 160 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: to replace like whole fatty milk, coconut milk is really good. Yeah. 161 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: And you know what, people don't funk with coconut milk, 162 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: which I think is wrong. I feel like coconut milk 163 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: is underrated. Yeah, maybe that should be my underrated You wait, 164 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: so you're saying you're the two of you like you 165 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: just look at almonds and you're like, good, get them 166 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: away from me because I like a I mean, look, 167 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: I like a roasted almond. I'm not the thing it's 168 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: got to be roasted, right, yeah, not in its natural form? 169 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: Well what most of the nuts we eat are roasted 170 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: right on some level. Like I don't eat rock gass shoes. 171 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't eat raw peanuts. I don't eat raw nuts. 172 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I don't. But you know 173 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: how it is. I'm saying, if it's like rock as 174 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: shoes delicious, Oh rock ashes are delicious, Yeah, absolutely delicious, 175 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: obviously better with extra you know, roasting flavoring. Sure, but 176 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: I think, oh, natural cash whose are fucking dope? Okay. 177 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: I just I feel like almonds became the default nuts 178 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: at some point in the past, like ten years over peanuts. Yea, 179 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: the healthy hard because they take a fucking it's I 180 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: think it's something like a gallon per nut. And you're like, what, no, 181 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: knock it off, fucking knock it off. We don't we 182 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: don't need amo. That's where I'm like, we don't need 183 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: almost that bad. You're not even that good, right, I 184 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: don't think they're that good. And yeah, like like when 185 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: you look at the water usage, like the little like 186 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: curbs that they put on consumer like water consumption like 187 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: regular gen pop water consumption, like it's the smallest dent 188 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: in the world when you compared to just like doing 189 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: anything to agriculture, like because they just like use all 190 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: the water, right Yeah, because yeah, when you go down 191 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this is how much water and almond takes. 192 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but what about all the live stock 193 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: that's where that's where the real water is going. Yeah. Ship, 194 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: what is something you think is underrated? The show Leverage? 195 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: You have? You just seen leverage. I have not, Okay, leverage, 196 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: Leverage rules. Leverage is basically the premise of the show 197 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: is every episode is It's It's It's It's a forty 198 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: minute heist movie with con artists, except they basically like 199 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: they they steal from the rich and give it to 200 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: the poor people, and they do it by just running 201 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: incredibly elaborate and absurd cons on people who suck and 202 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: it's it is an extremely good time and more people 203 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: should know about it because it's just it's it's just fun. 204 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: Where where can you watch it? Is an old show? 205 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was on from oh eight to two twelve. Yeah, 206 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: there's a new season two that I I think you 207 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: can watch an Amazon Prime or something. But yeah, it 208 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: was originally and it's like a very it's a very 209 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: like post two eight show in like the best way 210 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: that I only sort of vaguely remember because I was 211 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: like twelve, but like you know, it's it's very post 212 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: to a thousand and eight in that like there's a 213 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: bunch of rich people and they're all bad and the 214 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: goal of the show was to screw those people over. 215 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: And it's okay, right right right, just like anger about 216 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: the the session and the subprime lending ship. Yeah, yeah, 217 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, and it holds up right like even even 218 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: when they brought the show back, Like a lot of 219 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: the sort of old shows that they reboot like are 220 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: bad because they don't you know, the premise of whatever 221 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: was about is like and like you know that that 222 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: Robin hood nous that you really speaks to you, Yeah, 223 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: it's a Robin hoodness. And then also this I just 224 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: I like heist movies and this is like this is 225 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: like five Seasons of high movie that's also con artists, 226 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: which is just extremely fun. Okay, it's funny because that 227 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: was one of those shows too where I just saw 228 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: the poster and I'm like, I don't know what that's about. Yeah, 229 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's about. It's vague. Looks like 230 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: people standing in front of a truck. Okay, maybe they're truckers. 231 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: But now, okay, this is interesting. Maybe I have to 232 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: check this one. Yeah, it's a it's a good time. 233 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: It was a t NT original. It looks like, yeah, 234 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: that's when I was. I would never cast my eyes 235 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: upon anything from TNT. So yeah, this all tracks from 236 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: me back then. If you had suggested a t NT original, 237 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: we would have cut your feed. Yeah, it's not allowed out. 238 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: I do feel like there are a number of shows 239 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: like from that tear of cable, like, um, I think 240 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: Suits is one of these that I I just don't 241 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: I never gave a chance, purely because they or on 242 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: t NT or USA, and I was like, well, yeah, okay, yeah, 243 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna watch that White Collar and they're probably 244 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: I probably should have, so I will check it out. Leverage, 245 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: which you can watch on Apple TV for free if 246 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: you have an Apple or the is that what it's 247 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: called Apple TV or Apple plus whatever that is. They 248 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: have replaced from the main characters with an iPad. However, 249 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: it's as we talked about on yesterday's episode, the Apple 250 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: original programming is all just shot through with like kind 251 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: of the most aggressive product placement of all time. But 252 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: all right, well, let's take a quick break and we'll 253 00:14:51,640 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: be right back. And we're back and we're just gonna 254 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: do like a general check in with the state of America. 255 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: But before we do, we were realizing before we started recording, 256 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: Jabari that the last time you were on was January five. 257 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: It's been kind of an uneventful eight months since. Uh no, 258 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: that's so the day before the insurrection you you were 259 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: on here last. So I'm just warning people, you know, 260 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: watch out for tomorrow Tuesday. We'll see what happens. Don't 261 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: sleep on the influence of nice exactly, grow with the 262 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: gravitational pull of Jupiter. There you go, There you go. 263 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: But Miles, you were kind of, uh you put together 264 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: some thoughts on just sort of this idea of America's 265 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: practice of selective empathy. Yeah, it's just like you know, 266 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: like just like last time with the media not talking 267 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: about Afghanistan in one way, Like now I look at, 268 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, with the conversation talking about resettling Afghan refugees. 269 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: I was just you know, seeing how the momentum was 270 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: moving very swiftly, you know, because there's about eighty eight 271 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: thousand Afghans that assisted, you know, occupying American and Allied 272 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: forces during the Forever War. And now the US is 273 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: like obviously scrambling to relocate these people to fulfill a 274 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: moral obligation um since you know, like leaving them and 275 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: their family members behind in the places like Taliban is 276 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: like trying to have retaliatory attacks against these people just 277 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: is what it should be done on a minimum level, 278 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: if not more people. And then you look at the polling, right, 279 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: Americans are pretty much on the same page like Democrats, 280 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: sevent of Republicans are saying like yeah, we like we're 281 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm open to I I'm not opposed to resettling these 282 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: people in America and understand like that the narrative is 283 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: they helped the the army, so they should just like 284 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: that's their ticket to the United States. And another story 285 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: where I read about these South Florida Republicans who were 286 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: very enthusiastic about welcoming these people. And I'm not I 287 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: don't have any opposition to the fact that they're open 288 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: that they feel, you know, aligned with this sentiment. But 289 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: it just says like a lot right because like, at 290 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: a minimum, it acknowledges that these people put themselves and 291 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: their loved ones in harm's way to help the United 292 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: States military, and they understand like the reciprocal nature of 293 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: this transaction, Like that's okay, we get it, y'all all 294 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: could have got sucked up helping the US. Are are 295 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: are you know, brave men and women out there? So 296 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: this this you know, equates to a ticket back. But 297 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: like this other way to sort of underlines this fucked 298 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: up way in which Americans choose to have empathy for 299 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: displaced people, Like if you are working in service of 300 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: the American war machine, then it's a no brainer that 301 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, like oh man, like because then it's like 302 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: you were one of the good ones, you know what 303 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: I mean, Like we came fucked up your country, you 304 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: still helped out, you know what. That's worth a ticket 305 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: back here, We thank you, thank you, thank you. And 306 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: then you know, and then even though like normally the 307 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: narrative around Afghan refugees, like on Fox has basically been 308 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: terribly islamophobic and xenophobic and you know, ethno nationalist, but 309 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: seventies six percent of Republicans feel that it is our 310 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: duty as Americans to take these people in. And I'm 311 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: just like, what the funk what does this say about 312 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: every other situation that we're involved in that intersects with 313 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: the United States foreign policy and displacement of people, and 314 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: even domestic policy and displacement of people that where does 315 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a it's amazing to see how 316 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: people can just selectively be like, yep, those people deserve 317 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: empathy those people at the board or not so much. 318 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, granted that you can draw straight lines from 319 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: American foreign policy and intervention in Latin America to why 320 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: we have this immigration problem. And on the same level, 321 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: if it's like, well, these people are displaced because you 322 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: get cheap fruit for the for fucking dole or whatever, 323 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: that there's no there's no empathy, there's no understanding of 324 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: what the root causes are. And it's just kind of 325 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just sitting there thinking, right, here's another 326 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: example of all that. Right, It's what I wonder if 327 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: it's because the cheap fruit is like, you know, it's 328 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: implicating the consumer, you know it is it kind of 329 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: gets it this undercurrent where it's like, yeah, all of 330 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: this is being done to just feed the kind of 331 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: massive consuming machine that America has instead of a soul, 332 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: and we don't want to acknowledge that. Right, And if 333 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: you go just slightly broader, right, the fruit is like 334 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: one dimension because the whole point of fighting all these 335 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: like all the intervention in Latin America was the way 336 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: the US was fighting the Cold War. Kind the whole 337 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: thing was like, do not do not like communism root 338 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: on the continent, and we'll do whatever the funk we 339 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: have to do by hook or by crook to figure 340 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: out how to stop that momentum. So on some level, 341 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: you could argue that this was happening to protect America's freedom, 342 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: right like that that rhetoric is sort of that, like 343 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: our logic was being applied. Yet again we look at 344 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: displaced people from there and go, that's that's your problem, 345 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: that's problem. Well, I mean, really, the it has always 346 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: felt like the cut off, and it's it's very clear 347 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: at this stage, especially over these last couple of years. 348 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: To cut off is like, do we feel like these 349 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: people have you have value to us? Do we? And 350 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the three of us. I'm not saying 351 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: like you know, you know, those of us that actually 352 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: have natural empathy, but I'm saying you'll, you know, general public. 353 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Oftentimes it seems like if they if we don't feel like, 354 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, there there's value monetary actual value to you, 355 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter. And and and then and that's 356 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: and that's more telling about you know, about society because 357 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, and it's actually it's not just how we 358 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: look at you know, at you know, you know, people 359 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: in foreign lands, how we look at people in America. 360 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: If you are poor, you aren't you you're don't you 361 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: ain't ship you know, like if you if you're not 362 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: out here working, if you're not out there contributing to this, 363 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, to this system, then you you know, you're 364 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: not worth our time. So yeah, it's and and like 365 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: and I get though too. You know a big differences 366 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: with Afghanistan, and you know, everything that happened in nine eleven, 367 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: there was just you know, NonStop, it was a prime 368 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: time TV conflict for for a certain point, and so 369 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: people and there is countless TV shows, you know, and 370 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: and films that were like talking about like what's happening 371 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: over in the Middle East and things like that post 372 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: nine eleven, that that was a thing that people had 373 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: just like this sort of concept of but there isn't 374 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: much talking about American intervention in other places and things 375 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: like that and that this. But but then I'm like, Okay, well, 376 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's a historical thing, right, like because people know 377 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: what what's going on in Afghanistan and like they're like, okay, 378 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: well that I understand why we need to extend empathy there, 379 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: even though truly it's not even it's only being extended 380 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: to eighty eight thousand people among millions in the region. 381 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: But it's the same thing with like Black Americans. We 382 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: fucking built this country, right, and the land was stolen 383 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: from indigenous people, Yet these groups are still like I 384 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: don't know what the funk y'all problem is, right, what 385 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: is your what is going on? And and so it's 386 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: just it's just it's like sickening to watch how certain 387 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: issues that deal with things that are happening within the 388 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: country and are so clear of like why we need 389 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: to correct things, you know, but there's just not the 390 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: energy for that yet. For these things, there's like a 391 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: lot of there's just a lot of media momentum, and 392 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: Americans can selectively say like, right, I I totally understand 393 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: why we need to our obligation to resettle these these refugees. 394 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Yet we still are unable to look at all these 395 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: myriad of ways that we're connected to other struggles and 396 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: problems within the country and outside and still not be 397 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: compelled because it's easy to turn a blind eye and 398 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: you and you know, the next thing will come up 399 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: and we'll all obsess about that I after they have to. 400 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, honestly, y'all know, like I appreciate shows like this. 401 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: I appreciate ethnically ambiguous and you know, like those wonderful 402 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: ladies and the and and both and answering, you know, 403 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: for pointing stuff like this out, whether it's on you know, 404 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: whether it's on the shows, whether it's on you know, 405 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's on the timeline. And actually you know, 406 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: through conversations with and in particular, you know, like she 407 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: was the one who pointed out, like you we we 408 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: as a country, we we definitely pick and choose. We 409 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: definitely pick and choose what's going to matter, Who's going 410 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: to matter, you know how much it's you know it's 411 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: going to matter. And we really can't do that, you know, 412 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's well, I say, we really can't 413 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: do that. Yes we can, but we obviously really shouldn't 414 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: because look at where we're at, right Yeah, it's yeah, 415 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: And this whole thing is just about preserving like like 416 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: you say, we were selective about where we choose to 417 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: understand what's at stake or what the consequences were for 418 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: other people based on certain policies, and and like then 419 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: the second we try to inform people right of like history, 420 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: we see what happens, it's just met with rage and 421 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: violence because it's you know, the the whole the ignorance 422 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: is meant to intended to sort of preserve this American 423 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: sense of moral purity. And with Afghanistan, I think it 424 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: gives people a really easy thing to be like, up, 425 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: there was a war there. These people are basically they 426 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: fought on this team, so they get to come on 427 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: back on the bus back to the locker room after 428 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: the game kind of mentality. But the second, it begot 429 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: begins to really sort of intersect with something a little 430 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: more like closer to home or something that you may 431 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: actually have to think about deeper than just merely this 432 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: like very clean sort of logic path. Then it becomes 433 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: chaotic and things like that, and it's yeah, it's just 434 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: it's fucked up because there's countless ways that people are 435 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: being left behind, whether it's in the Middle East, in 436 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: South Asia wherever. But we you know, we we we 437 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: chug along on this path and like we only see 438 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: things get worse. I'm just kind of thinking, like what 439 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: does it take, you know, because if it's not about 440 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: connecting people to the history to understand sort of like 441 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: the US's place in that, what like what will do it? Yeah, 442 00:24:53,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: there's Americans seem particularly bad at feeling empathy towards poor 443 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: people in our own country because I think they're you know, 444 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: we I talk on to hear a lot about like 445 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: just the work, the like psychological work that needs to 446 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: be done too for like kind of the passive white 447 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: supremacists in the country to just like go about their 448 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: daily lives and like kind of pushed down whatever that 449 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: that reality is, whatever realities are hitting them. Like whether 450 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: it's somebody living on the street or you know, the 451 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: videos of police shooting innocent people of color. Like, there's 452 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: just so much work that's having to be done for 453 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: them to like block that out. And so by letting 454 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: in empathy for anybody in the country already, you're almost 455 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: having to admit like that that whole thing is on 456 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: shaky foundation, Whereas I feel like the Afghanistan War and 457 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: the Iraq War, the media and the American people were 458 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: able to like kind of think of it as a 459 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: thing that was separate from them, So that's enabling them. 460 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: And then you know, the specifics of the really shocking 461 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: and horrifying footage from the airport, especially in those early days, 462 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: I think like probably just crystallized things in the kind 463 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: of American consciousness, which is wild though too, because there's 464 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: so many people that are destitute here and and yeah, 465 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: like it's just this, it's like we just want to 466 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: put our eyes on the thing that feels like it 467 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: can be solved in that one thing. Oh, the Afghanistan 468 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: thing can be solved if we get enough people on planes, 469 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: and then it's over and off to think about it 470 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: and it's done. I look at you know, you look 471 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: at things that happened in the streets of any city, Philadelphia, 472 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: of Baltimore, New York, l A. Wherever there's there's real problems, 473 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: and it's much easier, I guess, to go down that 474 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: path to think of how we can solve that is 475 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: just too much of a task for some people to 476 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: engage in mentally, when most of it really is just 477 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: about being like, no one's asking you to solve it, 478 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: but like fun man have the same feeling for for 479 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: that if you if your heart's broken seeing people who 480 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: are clinging to you know, trying to escape their country 481 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: to get here, and you can somewhat understand like, oh yeah, 482 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: I get that. Just just open your heart a little bit, 483 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: you know what I mean to be able to have 484 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: that sort of same level of compassion for more people. 485 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know, that's just that's me being like, 486 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: what's what's wrong with us? But it also feels like 487 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: all of this is you know, very very specifically by designing, like, 488 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: for instance, there's a reason why we didn't ever see 489 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: the footage of you know, like what was going on 490 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. There's a reason why we didn't see the 491 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: body council's reason why they didn't even keep tracking a 492 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: lot of you know, in a lot of situations, there's 493 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: a really like it and the same thing goes where 494 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know, domestically, individuals are no longer seen 495 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: as individuals if we just call them gangs or we 496 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: say that it's gang violence instead of saying like, these 497 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: are people, these are Americans that are you know, they're suffering, 498 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: that are in terrible situations, that are you know, innocent, 499 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: you'll you'll be you beyond beliefs at at at In 500 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of situations, it's easy to 501 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: just ignore. It's easy to do. You're like you to 502 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: look past people like it's the same it's the same thing. 503 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: You pull up, you put like let's say you're getting 504 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: off the freeway, you're getting off the four or five, 505 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: there's a dude sitting there right at you know, right there, 506 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: waiting for money. It's really easy. Folks will roll that 507 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: window of turn the music up and look forward. That's 508 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: what we've always done. Yeah, and I just yeah, and 509 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: I know like on some level, like you know, it's 510 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: it's a feeling of shame or powerlessness, like someone you know, 511 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: depending on how you you process it at times, like 512 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: for me, it's like a feeling of shame, like funck man, 513 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: Like I can't like this. I feel so helpless that 514 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: there's this person who's my age, who is We're probably 515 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: coming from very similar circumstances, and this is how things 516 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: shake up, because this is how things are, you know, 517 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: sort of designed in the country. Yeah, it's just and 518 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: I think it's it can be overwhelming for a lot 519 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: of people on some level too, But it's just like 520 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: this sort of very it's it's like one of the 521 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: many superpowers that Americans and American media have created to 522 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: sort of keep the status quo going in this direction, 523 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: which is one that doesn't really care for people that 524 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: are marginalized or in need of help. Just focus on, 525 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: like focus on the people who who got it right. 526 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's uh talk about a new research poll 527 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: from Pew that is revealing the one of the big 528 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: differences between red and blue that we we weren't aware of. 529 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't personally aware of. Yeah, it kind of makes sense. Well, 530 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: what is this new where is this new arena for 531 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: the political engagement? It is over the topic of walking 532 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: around your town. So when they look at these theys. 533 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: They just took a quick survey. I'm just curious about, like, 534 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: in the post pandemic, do people want to like live 535 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: in larger homes or that might maybe more spread apart 536 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: with distance between them? Do would they rather be closer 537 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: to people and be able to walk to places and 538 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: just have like more of that kind of thing. So 539 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: apparently only of conservatives that they pulled want to live 540 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: in a walkable neighborhood, while seventy seven percent preferred driving everywhere. 541 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: But what's funny though, too, is when it comes down 542 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: to Democrats or people who identify as liberals, they say 543 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: of moderate Democrats and fifty seven percent of liberals quote 544 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: unquote want walkable neighborhoods, resulting in a split among Democrats. 545 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: So it's just odd to look at these numbers, Like, sure, 546 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: I can understand why if you love your fucking truck 547 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: or whatever you want to walk around or drive around 548 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: or merely because you don't want to be around people. 549 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: But to think like for what you see is like 550 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: stereotypical liberal ideology would be more like environmentally conscious, and 551 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: maybe you think that people would be like, oh, I 552 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: would like better design of or better planning of my 553 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: city so I could walk around and do things like that. 554 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: But it seems like they're split a little bit more. Yeah, 555 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: I guess I understand why conservatives don't want a walkable neighborhood, 556 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: but like, what is the so they just don't want 557 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: people walking past their house. I think it's the same thing, right, 558 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: if you're you don't want a sense of community problem. Ultimately, no, 559 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: you don't want your house. You want your your land, 560 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: and no one's allowed on your land. We see this 561 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, where it is not a walkable city 562 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: and not a great public transportation city, although it's gotten 563 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: better in some ways, slowly slowly, where yeah, it's like 564 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: people don't even want other people's cars parked on their 565 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: block because homeownership makes people fucking insane. I think this 566 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: issue is super complicated, especially in California, because the walkable 567 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: cities thing is also like sometimes that's a dog whistle 568 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: for gentrification, right, but what we really need is just 569 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: like better public transport. I mean, I think some of 570 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: the walkable city stuff is also like taking this European 571 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: idea of the walkable city where everything central that hasn't 572 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: existed in California. Or anywhere in the United States since 573 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: like the nineteen fifties, you know, ever since colors like yeah, 574 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, what if we gave you which I 575 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure people had to have a car 576 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: to live in this place, for sure, But even like 577 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: even walkable cities, even places like New York that are 578 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: like where the place where you can go everywhere, you know, 579 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: people have cars, and people move to the suburbs and 580 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: then drive from the suburbs. The idea of the suburbs 581 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: is really the thing that killed walkable cities, and liberals 582 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: are just as into the suburbs as anyone else. M right. 583 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: This thing with like is especially in l a right 584 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: like there's because people don't aren't really put estrians there 585 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: in their cars all the time. It really diminishes your 586 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: ability to feel connected to anyone else. Oh, I completely 587 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: disagree with that. I totally disagree with that because I 588 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: think the idea that you're like connecting with people around 589 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: with you, that New Yorkers are always like, yeah, I'm 590 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: just talking to everybody on the subway, running into my 591 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: friends all over town. Absolutely not. People can be completely 592 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: isolated in a crowd of people. In fact, you can 593 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: feel the loneliest you've ever felt in a huge crowd 594 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: of strangers. You know, everyone is not your friend necessarily immediately. 595 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: I have all kinds of social interactions from my car. 596 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: I have like daysed and confused interactions, which to me 597 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: is like just as counts just as much, just like 598 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: talking to somebody on the street. What are dazed in 599 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: confused interaction? You like, talk to somebody out your car. 600 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: You roll down your window and talk to somebody. I 601 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: went out the other night and I talk to like 602 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: some guys on a motorcycle who started hitting on us 603 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: from from the motorcycle. And then I went to Del 604 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: Taco at midnight and I ran into my friend Michelle, 605 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: who was also at Del Taco at midnight, just in 606 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: the line at the drive through. Yeah, nice honking behind you. 607 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So that's what it's, you know. But 608 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: I think the reason I bring that up right is 609 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: because I totally agree in that even just being physically 610 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: in proximity to someone doesn't necessarily create a sense of community. 611 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: But there's a way that you can absolutely shut yourself 612 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: off by being in a car all the time in 613 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: a way that like it's it's much easier to insulate yourself. 614 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: I know there are ways to do that in many walkables. 615 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: What do you say, you know, headphones man Like people 616 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: are putting their earbuds in like, But there's a difference 617 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: right between you never seeing somebody like you know of 618 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: of any different social class or whatever, and you have 619 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: whatever idea built up because it's born out of some media, 620 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: diet or whatever your social group says about a given 621 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: another group. And I think being in a car really 622 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: does allow that to reinforce in a way that I 623 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: think is can be pretty exceptional. I think you are 624 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: very much You're a very social person, and I'm also 625 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: across the line. But I think there is like even 626 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: for me recently, right, I started riding my bike more 627 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: because I wanted to be I wanted to like actually 628 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: feel like be around my neighborhood, see people out of 629 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: their homes too, and reinforce this idea that like, I'm 630 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: also around other human beings that are trying to live 631 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: in the same way versus it's easy to get caught 632 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: up inside, so I guess more so in the pandemic, 633 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: to get inside your house and just start creating a 634 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: sense of the world that might not actually exist because 635 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: of like what you're consuming media wise. So for me, 636 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: and maybe this is just more of a personal thing, 637 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: I found it a lot easier to be like in 638 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: public space around other people, and I'm not necessarily talking 639 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: to people, but there is something that just feels different 640 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: than being in a car and just like just having 641 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, like completely sort of insulated. Yeah, I guess 642 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: it's also like I feel like in l A, people 643 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 1: drive somewhere to walk, you know. So it's like people 644 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: do walk, they just have to drive somewhere to walk 645 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: there because it is a gigantic place and we don't 646 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: have the greatest public transportation, right It's like, Yo, let's 647 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: let's drive forty minutes to go walk Ford you pretty 648 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: much that is, you know what I mean? And and 649 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: I think that's what I love about biking, or I'm 650 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: getting more into it now. I like cutting down a 651 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: lot of shorts. I like biking. I do I think 652 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: out there, I think biking in l A is kind 653 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: of terrifying because of culture. You know. I've been other 654 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: places where I'm like, it's easier to bike here because 655 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: it's a like I do think having real bike lanes 656 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: would be great for for l A, we could use 657 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: a lot more bike lanes. Everything is definitely centered around cars. 658 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: I do think cars here are a little bit like 659 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: guns in Texas and that you will pry them out 660 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: of our cold dead hands, right right, right right, because 661 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: that's how Yeah. Like, so I do think we're just 662 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: gonna get We've got to get better electric cars rather 663 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: than trying. I don't think there's gonna be in l 664 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: A without cars ever, probably no, No, people are like 665 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: just habitually, there will be in l A without cars, 666 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: but it'll be after like yeah, that's when the roaches 667 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: are running. But yeah, like you know, my partner, for example, 668 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: she's from d C, so her outlook on using a 669 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 1: car is so different than mine, being a valley scum 670 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: rat kid who like the car was your like to 671 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: me was like liberation, like when you're younger. And so 672 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: there are a lot of times she's like, why wouldn't 673 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: you just walk there? And I'm kind of catching with 674 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: something like because this is l A. And then I'm like, man, 675 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm completely fucking I'm not even looking at things in 676 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: a way that will allow me to like actually just 677 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: make it sure you could have good public transportation and 678 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: walk ability, but then you'd have to live in Washington, 679 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: d C. I mean, as we found out in the 680 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: movie Crash, sometimes those of us in l A crash 681 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: or dank cars and what I'm saying again to feel connect. 682 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just me. Maybe it is because I just 683 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: go out cruising all the time, looking for action and 684 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: like you know, crashing into people, fighting with the city. 685 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: As as Miles one said, he thinks I do all day, 686 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: which is what I do all day. But yeah, I 687 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: do just think like the idea that car culture is 688 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: inherently isolating is not I don't think it's true. Yeah, 689 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: but also, yeah, it's nice to walk. I walk around 690 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. But also because la is so spread out, 691 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: it's like sometimes you walk somewhere and you don't see anybody. Yeah, 692 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: and it's and I think that's what's also kind of 693 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: a bummer too, because like I'll go on parts of 694 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: the l A River and bike and like you'll see 695 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: these like pockets whre there's a lot of people, and 696 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: then suddenly I'm like there's like tumbleweeds and ship I 697 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: love to some boys. Yeah, but I mean, you know, 698 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: this is again back to the urbanism stuff. Like the 699 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: big issues in California are that we need more dense 700 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: housing for people because we are a city of a 701 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: lot of people, but there's all these single family homes 702 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: and that's what everybody thinks they get if they go 703 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: to California. But I can't have that anymore. And again, 704 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: I do think people are gonna maybe hold onto that 705 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: idea a little bit with they're called dead hands as 706 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: climate change happens. Yeah, well, I think because we're sort 707 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: of all inundated and like inoculated with the concept of 708 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: like American wealth building is based on real estate holdings, right, 709 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: which doesn't work anymore when the houses are burning down 710 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: all the time and being you know, flooded by hurricanes, 711 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: and especially as insurance companies start to drop people that 712 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: are in natural disaster zones, which is what I think 713 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: Mike Davis said is probably going to happen next, you know, 714 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: because so far it's just been like everything burns down 715 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: in Malibu or whatever, and then they just build it 716 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: back bigger every time. But there will come a point 717 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: when the insurance company has refused to do that. But 718 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: then what happens, Like banks are like lobbying and they're 719 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: like homeowners insurance is a is a right, Like it's 720 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: fucking medical insurance. You know what I mean to do? 721 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: You know? And I think I don't know. I think 722 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: people are are also just thinking about where they do 723 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: want to live. I do think that I do know 724 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: some liberals who moved to some walkable cities because they 725 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: were like, if I'm stuck at home during the pandemic, 726 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: I'd rather be somewhere I can like walk around and 727 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: walk to a place that I want to go. Then 728 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: in the suburbs, where I thought I wanted to be 729 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: right and just walk four miles and all you see 730 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,439 Speaker 1: is like a desolate spearmit rhino, like an industrial park. Okay, 731 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: but that's the beauty to me, miles you know that, 732 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: Like I love it. But yeah, like we people don't know, 733 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: they're not used to that one in North Hollywood, well yeah, 734 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: but that's like we walked to the Century eight, which um, 735 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: I think is a different theater called something else now maybe, 736 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: but I looked it up recently on YELP and was 737 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: very delighted to see that the reviews were like this 738 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: place is still very scary at night. Yeah, everybody was 739 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: like this is the sketchiest parking lot I've ever been, 740 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I love the valley. Yeah, 741 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: they're like, now they shot a fucking what's not wonder 742 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: Captain Marvel in that park, I think. So you're talking 743 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: about the one in North Hollywood, right, Well, yeah, there's 744 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: there's a couple of scary theaters in North Hollywood though. Yeah, 745 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: but that one by the old Wells Fargo Bank that 746 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: has like the huge mirror lie So that's the that's 747 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: the other one, that's the that's the Yeah, that's that 748 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: one's closed forever. I think Century eight is still open 749 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: and you can go see movies. Because I was like, 750 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: now that the arc lives posed, where can I go see? 751 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: Like if I wanted to see in like a Fast 752 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: and Furious movie, Like, where would I even go? It's like, 753 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: what if I just start going to that theater again, 754 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: which I could walk to? So maybe that brings it back. 755 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: Maybe you're right, maybe we all love walkability. That's right. 756 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be 757 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: back to talk about how COVID is affecting rap rock 758 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: legends of our youth. And we're back, and Adam Levin 759 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: has been replaced by super producer on a streaming corner, assholes, 760 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: open your ears. Sorry, Yeah, hard to pivot from that 761 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: very serious conversation about security and privacy and now the 762 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: pressing issues of our time, the way we distract ourselves 763 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: healthily from that television TV. Although this I feel like 764 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: this show really nailed something about the zeitgeist or just 765 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: I guess America. Oh White Lotus or yeah, White Lotus 766 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: show definitely always is always nailing the ze gust. Hello, 767 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: Anna Hosnie, thank you for joining us. What why why 768 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: do we watch White Lotus? When you first said why 769 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: are you watching it? What was parting? Well, okay, first 770 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: I have to do my streaming corner theme song. Okay, 771 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: go go go three six seven ten, batty d d 772 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: do dude, it's a stream in corner. Bad dot dot dude, 773 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: it's a stream in corner. You didn't watch White Lotus, 774 00:43:52,719 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: did you? You didn't watch It is gonna happen to 775 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: last time? When we were like, alright, well so I 776 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: missed all that. I was doing my theme song. We 777 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 1: were just saying that you have delaying because you didn't 778 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: actually watch White Lotus when we asked you about Godfather too, anyway. 779 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: Pretty I've ever been more offended than people just speaking 780 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: through my forty five minutes stream of corner. And we 781 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: were just so confused. We didn't want to get scammed again. No, 782 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: I was just um, I was, what is it when 783 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: you're like pulling from someone? I was pulling my inner 784 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: Kim Cantrell Chanel. Um. I guess before we get into 785 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: the just the talk, I'll I will read what the 786 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: description of White Lotus is, so if you haven't seen it, 787 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: you understand what we're gonna be ranting and raving about. 788 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: They say from Mike White, the creator of HBOS in light, 789 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: The White Lotus is a sharp social satire following the X. 790 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: It's a various employees and guests at an exclusive Hawaiian 791 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: resort over the span of one highly transformative week, As 792 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: darker dynamics emerge with each pressing day. This biting six 793 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 1: episode series gradually reveals the complex truths of the seemingly 794 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: picture perfect travelers, cheerful hotel employees, and idyllic locale itself. 795 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: There it is, and another interesting fact, Mike White did 796 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: in fact go to high school or college. I forget 797 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: with my friend Laurie's wife really okay, yeah, the other day. 798 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 1: Now we're looking with guests, now we're cooking. He also 799 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 1: did he write he wrote School of Rock. He's enlightened 800 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: with Laura Derny Yeah, yeah, but also School of Rock. 801 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: He's okay, stop bringing up School of Rock every time. 802 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: But interesting, kind of varied career. But this is I 803 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: don't know, very kind of keenly just sharply observed about 804 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: the one percent, I guess, and uh and their relationship 805 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: to themselves in their world and there their leisure, their leisure. 806 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: M I don't know. It was how do we get 807 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: into this? What do we? What do we? I mean? Yeah, 808 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: I just say so, like I know there's been a 809 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: lot of think pieces on it and all that, but 810 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really one that thinks too hard. 811 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: So I just thought it was just like a fun 812 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: dark comedy that just like kind of you know, showed 813 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: that rich white people are just like vapid, idiot losers, 814 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: and that's just kind of like funny to me. Yeah, 815 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: some woman, like I'm really simple, Like if you're like, 816 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 1: look at this rich white woman, like she doesn't get 817 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: that like white men are over I'm like, it's me um, 818 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 1: so like that's all it really takes for me. Yeah, well, 819 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: I think because a lot of people I felt like, 820 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: we're mad because they were expecting this show to have 821 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: some kind of really biting sort of commentary on what 822 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: it was. And I get that maybe you thought because 823 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: it was like adjacent to something really interesting, because throughout 824 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: this show, like there is this juxtaposition of like understanding 825 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: like what life is like for the people of Hawaii, 826 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: like the relationship that it has to the mainland, and 827 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: like just how like sort of the cast system that 828 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: even Annexation has created in that sense, But there's also 829 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: like there's just, yeah, this dark comedy aspect about it, 830 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: which just sort of makes it palatable. And I in 831 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: the beginning, I thought maybe this was going to be 832 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: all broader commentary on something like that, and in the 833 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: end it just was really just sort of this very 834 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: more narrowly focused dark comedy. So I didn't mind that 835 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: it didn't have that, because I also it was kind 836 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: of one a very American thing where like the show 837 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 1: almost was able to like observe an issue or like 838 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: a controversy, but not quite have a reckoning with it. 839 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: So it's just sort of like, damn that's sucking a while. 840 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: The vibe was that the show rather than like, this 841 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: is why we need to really seriously talk about like 842 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 1: what it means to have annexed the Kingdom of Hawaii, 843 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, like all these other things, like what it 844 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: means for these power dynamics among all these other people. 845 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: But really it was just occupy Hawaii. Yeah, I know. 846 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: And and the kind of the great part about it 847 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: is that, like it just I kind of liked It's 848 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: like you didn't really try, and I'd rather you just 849 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: didn't try, Like you created humor and the fact that 850 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: like these people were really shitty and you're pointing it out, 851 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,240 Speaker 1: but like they didn't really make that much of an effort, 852 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: and it's like I'd rather than not make an effort 853 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: than make like a half assed effort something, you know 854 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: what I mean and fall flat trying to be like 855 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: deep with it. But I feel like the commentary was 856 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 1: all there like that it definitely didn't end in a 857 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: satisfying way. But the way it ended was that the 858 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: people who you've kind of just been disgusted by the 859 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: whole time because they are just myopically just obsessed with 860 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: their own privilege, and like preserving the illusion that they 861 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: deserve like every thing, and like fighting anybody who's in 862 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: the service and service positions, like they just get away 863 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: with it and don't learn their lesson and that's just 864 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: like that that is how it works. Yeah, but didn't 865 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: that all feel like just in the writing like very 866 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: surface level, Like there were a lot of things that 867 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: they just touched on that they very quickly, very like 868 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: it was just like and then they like you know, 869 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: moved on, Like I feel like, yeah, you know, they'd 870 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: be like this guy hates the manager or whatever. Jake 871 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: Lacey's character Shane hates armand. Yeah, Shane hates armand and 872 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 1: it's like okay, but we're not really going to explain, 873 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: like explore further like what the funk is wrong with 874 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: Shane and like why, you know, like other than him 875 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: being like, look, I was just born into this, okay, 876 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: like what am I supposed to do? And it's like, yeah, 877 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: surface level, that's who he is, and that's all these 878 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: people are. They're all surface level people, right, Yeah, maybe 879 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: that is maybe that is the observation. So like just 880 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: to give people an idea, like there's like this tension, 881 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: there's there's character Armand who's like the hotel manager. Then 882 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 1: there's a couple of Nicole and Mark, which is played 883 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: by Connie Britten and Steve's On, who's like this wealthy 884 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: couple who have brought their kids and one of their 885 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: kids friends with them to just kind of like have 886 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: one of those rich people vacations. And then the other 887 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 1: story the other storyline involves Tanya, which is Jennifer Coolidge's character, 888 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: who's like mourning the loss of her mother and is 889 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 1: there to spread ashes alongside this newlywed couple of Shane 890 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: and Rachel, where this journalist has like married rich and 891 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: is kind of having this existential dilemma of like what 892 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: that means for her. Yeah, but I think that there's 893 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: something where when they're on vacation, they are left with 894 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: too much time to think about like just themselves and 895 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: how awful they are, so they like do things like 896 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: create the issue with Urmand that that Jake has. Or 897 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: Connie Britten, who's like supposed to be a Cheryl Sandberg 898 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: type character, is like at one went like moving furniture 899 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: around the hotel room, like just like doing these things, 900 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: like creating these tasks and these problems too, just like 901 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: focus on to like continue this like sort of endless 902 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: like competition and like urge to prove something that like 903 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: I feel like deep down they know they can't prove, 904 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: which is that they deserve any of this ship. Mm hmm, 905 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: what's um? I I want to say that this one 906 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: of the best things about this show, where like some 907 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: of just the individual performances and I don't know, I 908 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: just want to maybe go around and we can talk 909 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: about some of our favorite people from the show. I 910 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: remember when I wasn't watching yet and and it was 911 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: and you're like, due to Jennifer Coolidge, it's fucking crushing 912 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: this whole fucking show. And that's when I was like, 913 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm watching because I'm such a Jennifer Coolidge fan. And yeah, 914 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 1: Tanya's character was called cool Dogs. Hey where the cool 915 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: Dogs at? But yeah, like honestly her performance is like fantastic, 916 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: and like her sort of storyline with Belinda and Natasha. 917 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: Rothwell's character was just like this fucking strange journey of 918 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 1: like white savior, doom and guilt and like also people 919 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: trying to act like they were being authentic by offering 920 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: or not offering money. It was a it was a 921 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 1: lot it was a lot. Yeah, you know, Jennifer Coolidge, 922 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean truly like a legendary actor who like comedic 923 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: actor who never really I think, like I feel like 924 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: she gets you know, pigeonholed a lot in what she 925 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: has been offered in the past. And it was like 926 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: really nice to see her like playing this, like just 927 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 1: showing that she has like this wild range where she 928 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 1: can play like this, Like what is she She calls 929 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: herself an alcoholic she comes to like an alcoholic psychopath 930 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: or something like she's like under all you're just gonna 931 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: find an alcohol like psychopath and you're like wow, wow, 932 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,879 Speaker 1: like that level of just like madness, You're like, wow, 933 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: she's kind of And the thing is she's nailing it. 934 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: Like her character, every person she interacts with, I immediately 935 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: feel bad for them. And that's how you know she's 936 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: nailing it. Yeah, she just walks up like you having 937 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: a good You're like, she's trappings. So she reminded me 938 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: of the character and shadows the energy vampire. Yeah, she 939 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: just came in and would destroy the life force of 940 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: everyone except the dying guy who she ultimately ends up with. Right, 941 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 1: I do want to add this one thing. Those characters 942 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: of Paula and Olivia like the gen Z college girls. 943 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: My dad said he like they made him feel so 944 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: uncomfortable that he couldn't get past the st episode because 945 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: he was getting like zoomer anxiety. He's like, oh man, 946 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: they're like they're just gonna fucking read your ass and 947 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: like you don't know what to do, and he was like, 948 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: yet he was feeling that off the screen. He's like, yeah, 949 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't really get past it. First. They nail the 950 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: cruelness that gen Z can bring in their critiques, and 951 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my, just like them reading at the 952 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: look that they both give you at the same time, 953 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: and you're like no, no, no, no, don't look at 954 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,800 Speaker 1: me right because these characters are like almost like you know, 955 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,439 Speaker 1: they have like the cutting commentary that like a five 956 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: year old would where they're like, oh you're bald, and 957 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, thank you child, but they're just like 958 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: you're like an empty, like lame want to your wife. 959 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 1: Like they have like this expanded vocabulary and know a 960 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: lot more like psychological terminology, so like it's like the 961 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 1: same kind of observation, but it just cuts you in half. 962 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 1: But also they're just like disdained for things too. I 963 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: think was really that line where they're like, do you 964 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: guys meet on Riya You like, wow, okay you are 965 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: He's just like, oh no, You're just like damn. They 966 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: just come for you immediately. The reading is like the 967 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: books they're reading are like he's like, hi, like Nietzsche 968 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 1: and like Freud. Look, it's like okay, uh, nobody wants 969 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 1: nobody actually reads that. But um. And then Jake Lacy, 970 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: the like bro character who's like inherited a bunch of 971 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 1: money and like it seems to have like the most 972 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: violent conflict with like just well just with every everything 973 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: about himself and like he's always reading Malcolm Gladwell Blanket 974 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: and he's never yeah yeah and never making any progress, 975 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: and it's always like at the same place I thought 976 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,439 Speaker 1: was he captures like a guy who says he's gonna 977 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: read on a trip energy and it's like yeah, almost, dude, 978 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm bringing the book here. I'm bringing the book there. 979 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm bringing I brought it to bed. No, I didn't 980 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: read it. I was about to, but you know, vacation 981 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: and I gotta say, Molly Shannon comes in. I mean 982 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: Molly Shannon is honestly, like every every role she plays 983 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 1: immediately is like she just progresses in a way where 984 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, she's so fucking funny. She just comes in 985 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: as a mom who's just like, you know, like you're pretty, 986 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, like that wedding I blacked out. You're like, 987 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: I don't remember you know, saying that. It's like, what 988 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 1: are you saying? People say it's lovely? I don't remember 989 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: that at all, but it was great, right, nothing, right? Yeah. 990 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: I feel like her, and I feel like the character Jake, 991 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: the mom, Molly Shannon, and the two gen Z girls 992 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 1: were like the ones that like stuck out to me 993 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: as like the most I don't know, like I hadn't 994 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: seen them on camera like in a thing before like 995 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 1: nailing to that degree, like that archetype because there, Yeah, 996 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: there's like a lot of pain in them, like the 997 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 1: like that is and the way they deal with it 998 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 1: is like very pathetic and like just completely like transferring 999 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 1: like their anger about one thing to another thing, and 1000 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 1: they just really like nailed it in a way that 1001 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 1: felt realistic and yet like so just obvious. And also 1002 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: Steve's on. I forgot about Steve's on until I saw 1003 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: him and I was like, oh wait, Steveson is actually hilarious. 1004 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: His whole like meltdown through the series of like he 1005 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: finds out his dad died of eates and and he's like, 1006 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: I just first he thinks he has testicular cancer. Then 1007 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: he finds out his dad died of eates because he 1008 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: was you know, bisexual or or gay. Well, I don't 1009 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: even know. It's not really explained. And then if I 1010 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: let these like starts to be like he starts to 1011 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: melt it down because he at one point he had 1012 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: an affair and decides he wants to be open with 1013 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: his son, and his son is he really not accepted. 1014 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: He's just like okay, cool, dad, Like, stop telling me 1015 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: about this. They're so like his character. And then just 1016 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: like that scene at the dinner where they're like, be 1017 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 1: nicer to your brother. You know, it's tough for young 1018 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: white guys. And then like Paula, they're like, well you know, 1019 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: the daughter is like you've never even asked Paula question. 1020 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: And he's like, well, Paula doesn't know anything about me, 1021 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: and she's like, well, I know about your balls, bro, 1022 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: what do you mean walking around lament that? Yeah, And 1023 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: then He's like, Okay, ask me a question, Paula, and 1024 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: she says, what do you stand for? Oh my god? 1025 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: His character just like like what do I stand for? 1026 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: Because they're all that like emotional turmoil. He still lacks 1027 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: the depth needed to analyze any of it, but he 1028 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 1: can't do it. It's just I thought his character was 1029 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: like perfect, just like Dad, he's just like kind of 1030 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: checked out, so self involved with his own crap. It's 1031 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: kind of nice to see like Zon he like you 1032 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: can see that he can there's a like whatever this 1033 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: next phases him playing this kind of weird middle aged guy, 1034 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: like because that angs when he was younger, Like sure 1035 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: it was funny, but I feel like it really suits 1036 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: him now, like as he's gotten older and like you 1037 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 1: know that he now looks like he I don't know, 1038 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,439 Speaker 1: it just feels like more spot on. And then also 1039 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: like Molly Shannon too, It's just really helped to just 1040 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: see like you're like fun, dude. Momy Shannon has like 1041 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: always been super talented, but like now she's getting like 1042 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: great roles to really you know fred or wings in. Yeah, yeah, 1043 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: I thought this was a great role. There's one more 1044 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: moment with Steveson the moment he gets the call from 1045 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: his uncle and he's like, well, how did my dad 1046 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 1: die of AIDS? And he's like he was sleeping around 1047 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: with men. That face he makes, I cried, just his 1048 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: I think his facial expressions alone throughout the series of 1049 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: just like complete confusion, like what he Yeah, he embodied 1050 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,919 Speaker 1: the like circuits frying in a computer Reuters How made 1051 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: that a facial expression? And then the face he's making 1052 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: when he's just sitting like this the next day, where 1053 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: it's with his hand with his face in his hand, 1054 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: and his daughter's been like, that's really homophobic for you 1055 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: to be this upset about it, Like what if Grandpa 1056 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: was like a power bottom. It's a camp process any 1057 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: of the information. I mean, I was dying, Mike what. 1058 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: The creator and writer of the show's dad was Reverend 1059 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: doctor James Melville White, a former speechwriter and ghostwriter for 1060 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: the religious right figures such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. 1061 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: His father came out as gay in so kind of 1062 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: lived in experience, right right? Cool? And are interesting? Mark Yeah? 1063 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 1: And then the other character, I just want to like 1064 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,479 Speaker 1: Murray Bartlett as armand is like one of the most 1065 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: realistic depiction of like a relapse just of being high 1066 01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: and like uninhabited and or uninhabited, and just like that 1067 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: performance is fucking incredible. Yeah, that, especially that last episode 1068 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 1: when like he's like fuck it, babe, It's yeah, it's 1069 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: yeah that, I mean, his whole It's also like you 1070 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: really felt for his character too, because like you know, 1071 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 1: like he's he's trying to keep a ship together, he's 1072 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: trying to stay clean, and he's also like in the 1073 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: midst of like the most chaotic week of his career 1074 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: is like managing a hotel with like unruly guests, finding 1075 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 1: bags of drugs and not knowing what to do and 1076 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: like his own demons. It's like, yeah, it's funny because 1077 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: he provided a lot of comedic relief, but also like 1078 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 1: super like you said, like this very realistic portrayal of 1079 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: of someone just like struggling with their own addiction to Yeah. 1080 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: I also like that the people around and we're kind 1081 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 1: of like okay, armand no one was really that concerned 1082 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 1: that this guy was so off the deep end. Like 1083 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: you open your door and your boss is eating ass, 1084 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Like that's the problem there. I was just like, you 1085 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: know what, not my business and seen the show. It's yeah, 1086 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: you'll you'll be surprised, but I think it's worth checking 1087 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: out for sure. Now, yeah, we should probably put a 1088 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: spoiler alert at the beginning of this, because this is 1089 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: no I think this is spoiler alert twenty minutes ago, 1090 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: spoil alert all you can eat. But fet I actually 1091 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: really like Dylan. He doesn't get yeah, I can have 1092 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 1: any shift I want. I do have more like right, 1093 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: And then I was just kind of like, yo, this 1094 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 1: is so gross. And then I'm like, well, this is 1095 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 1: this is this dark comation. It's like, finally, let's party. 1096 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 1: There is a scene last episode that's the grossest thing 1097 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I've ever seen with Armand to be real, they have 1098 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: to have like shown actual like that that right, you 1099 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: can't fake that, or you it would cost a lot 1100 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: of money to fake that, or you just don't put 1101 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 1: it in a post. Yeah that's true. You think that 1102 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: would digitize. I don't think. I think it worse. I 1103 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: ran that back a number of times and just like 1104 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: watch it and frame by frame and I'm pretty sure 1105 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 1: that you did your own studies yourself trying to replicate 1106 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 1: the shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's like what are you 1107 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: doing in the bathroom. Like everything about the suitcase, I 1108 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 1: got a new one coming in the middle. Don't worry 1109 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: about it. Anna as always such a pleasure having you 1110 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 1: and your streaming corner on. Where can people find you 1111 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: and follow you? Well? Hold on, I have to do 1112 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: my outro song for sure, boy, just because your as 1113 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 1: like another four that's the end stream, thank you. Yeah, 1114 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 1: I can get the horn section from Scodio Policias, thank you. 1115 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I also sampled that. All right, that's gonna do it. 1116 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,919 Speaker 1: For this week's weekly Zeitgeist, please like and review the show. 1117 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,919 Speaker 1: Oh if you like the show, uh means the world 1118 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: of Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're 1119 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 1: having a great weekend and I will talk to him Monday. 1120 01:04:12,040 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: By M. E.