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Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to dry Bar. My name is Lacey. How

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Speaker 1: can I help you?

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Speaker 2: Hi, Lacey, I received a coupon, I believe for a blowout.

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Speaker 2: I was at Lasson's and I was getting her coral

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Speaker 2: tiny chicken salad and an asparagus shooter, and then this

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Speaker 2: beautiful brunette came up to me.

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Speaker 1: That's probably our CEO, Ali Webb. She's a rock star,

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Speaker 1: isn't she.

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Speaker 2: She's amazing. She was just a vision and her hair

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Speaker 2: was so glamorous and shiny. And then she handed me.

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Speaker 2: I do know it's gonna sound crazy, but she handed

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Speaker 2: me a drink coaster that said, I can't even say it.

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Speaker 1: Lucky bitch. You can say a girl. Let's say it together,

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Speaker 1: lucky bitch. Well, bitch, it's your lucky day because that

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Speaker 1: is a coaster made by the CEO's amazing, sexy, beautiful,

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Speaker 1: metrosexual husband, Cam and it's actually for one free blowout.

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Speaker 1: So come into one of our few locations.

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Speaker 2: If you're hav one in Sherman Oaks, because that's where

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Speaker 2: my son goes to preparatory school.

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Speaker 1: Actually that location just opened, so you're stay with me

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Speaker 1: a lucky bitch. How about say two point fifteen, right

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Speaker 1: before he gets out of school, so you can show

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Speaker 1: off to all those other moms that you still got it.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you just made my day. I've never felt like

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Speaker 2: a luckier. We are through the ads.

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Speaker 1: You're locked in two point fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Lacey, can't wait to see you. What's

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Speaker 2: the name of this new business again?

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Speaker 1: Dry bar?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to remember that one.

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Speaker 1: Tell your friends and enemies.

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Speaker 4: Who's that knocking at the door.

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Speaker 2: It's all your friends. You've filthy horse, your husband's gone,

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Speaker 2: and you've got books and a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 4: It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoirst.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity puff Club.

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Speaker 3: While it's hot Celebrity puff Club.

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Speaker 4: I tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity book No.

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Speaker 1: Boys are a loud.

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Speaker 2: Say it loud and cloud Celebrity book Club.

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Speaker 3: Buzz me in.

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Speaker 1: I brought the queer vow.

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Speaker 2: Hey, best friends, Wow, your hair is looking amazing.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it look great? I was feeling so down about

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Speaker 1: my hair a while back when I had my two boys.

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Speaker 1: It's always creasy.

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Speaker 2: I know the feeling. It's called mommy brain because you

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Speaker 2: forget to condition because sorry, I was too busy counting

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Speaker 2: cheerios out.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It's like, now my world is picking up

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Speaker 1: a little wooden toys. And what's more nutritious, blended broccoli

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Speaker 1: or blended cauliflower. I used to think about knee high

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Speaker 1: boots blow jobs in the meat packing district.

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Speaker 2: And now it's all about getting on my knee to

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Speaker 2: pick up my children's toys. Whatever happened to be in

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Speaker 2: Single and Fabulous?

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's step for our second?

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Speaker 2: We just can't stop pretending to be fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Powerful women who love getting their hair done in a

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Speaker 1: fast and convenient way.

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Speaker 2: Oh of course, we're so excited to be in this

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Speaker 2: milia because we rode.

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Speaker 1: A slim but powerful novel slash jurnles.

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Speaker 4: Novels, I mean, well like it's fiction, sorry, memoir, although

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Speaker 4: perhaps she didn't embellish from time to time, a diary,

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Speaker 4: if you will, of one woman and her story and

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Speaker 4: her journey.

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Speaker 2: And it's also a business advice book and a worksheet.

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Speaker 1: It's a worksheet spreadsheet.

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Speaker 2: Of course. We're talking about Dry Bar co founder Ali Webb.

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Speaker 1: And her book The Massy Truth.

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Speaker 2: How I sold my business for millions.

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Speaker 1: But that almost lost myself.

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Speaker 2: And the cover is a very close up almost.

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Speaker 1: The Cepia toned sexy photo of her big, bouncy, wavy hair.

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Speaker 3: Tougher face look a little stry from all the blow.

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Speaker 2: Also float trying. I mean, it's supposed to be dry.

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Speaker 2: guess they're like putting so much like whatever chistousers. The

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah the old hair Bros. You know, is like

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Speaker 1: a product your mother gave you. That's like a Nman

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Speaker 2: From I mean, and obviously ask me know dry Bar

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Speaker 2: has their own line of products, which she did sell

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Speaker 2: for two hundred and eighty five million. But it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But she's also stopped shaming her because her whole life

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Speaker 2: and that's my hair is so dry and so kinky.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what you're doing now is working.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before we get into ali, what, just give us

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Speaker 1: a little bit of your hair story, Like who's been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been going to Gino since nineteen seventy one. No,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like a little prince with your little locks.

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Speaker 2: So then you know, I moved to New York City

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Speaker 1: It's really all about finding the words and the strength

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Speaker 1: haven't told my biggest secret in the entire world, do

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Speaker 1: you think I would tell it in the Messy Truth Book?

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe you're so inspired by her messy truth.

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Speaker 1: It's true, but anyway, so I feel like you didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the words that I'm saying are not

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Speaker 1: It's that those were the words you needed to say. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I started this book and I was like, Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is insane. This is insane. This is something we would write.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like a play we would write for

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Speaker 1: the public hotel. How did I get here?

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting in my Spanish meets craftsman California home with

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Speaker 1: We have a happily blended family, a cat named Cookie,

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Speaker 2: I just got back from a spa weekend in Palm Springs.

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Speaker 1: I'm hydrated, moisturized and loved. Yay. It's like Steve Lily

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Speaker 1: like chat cheepy tea, like craftsman meets Hollywood and moisturized husband, cats,

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Speaker 2: My Spanish meat craftsman home with my new husband. She's

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Speaker 2: constantly bragging and it is so funny.

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Speaker 1: When we get get we will be giving spoilers.

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Speaker 2: you're gonna find out some hot piping tea, hot.

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Speaker 1: Tea the reveal because she there's so much built up

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Speaker 2: Because this book is basically about her divorce. So for

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Speaker 2: blowout facin and they pioneered the concept of women not

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Speaker 2: Women are always getting their haircut once every three months

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Speaker 1: like hairdressers are always being like, why don't you come in?

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Speaker 1: This is like sometimes you are actually such a like badass,

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Speaker 2: Mean, I go to the barbershop. To this day, I

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Speaker 1: There are three wolves inside of.

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Speaker 2: the surprise proposal, like with the photographer hiding in the bushes, classic,

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00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 2: and it's like we're having a picnic. I reached into

440
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 2: the picnic basket he packed to grab a bottle of water,

441
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 2: when all of a sudden, out popped the sweetest little

442
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: puppy you've ever seen, wearing a Tiffany chain around its

443
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 2: neck with a heart charm dangling from it. On it,

444
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: the words will you marry me? Were engraved. I was

445
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 2: giddy and crying. Strangers were clapping all around us.

446
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: Literally the biggest red flag. To surprise someone with a puppy, Yeah, crazy,

447
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: that's cool, cool any pet parrot?

448
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: And yet how can you say no.

449
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: No when you see Tiffany's and a puppy. Yeah, if

450
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 1: you got proposed to with a puppy, though, I.

451
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 2: Mean, there's no way you would be day meppy. Now

452
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: a kitten, a Tiffany's kitten. If it was a Russian.

453
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: Blue with the silver charm against that gray fir Oh

454
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: my god, that would be so should.

455
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: Be like a million ignoring the to the boots.

456
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: But you do need a cat anyway, they get married.

457
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 1: They moved to La and she like they have kids.

458
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 1: You know, she thought it was the dream, and she's

459
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: always like my boys. She's also being so like hot

460
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: mom who has hot boys. Yeah, like my boys hair

461
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: so beautiflful, floppy and floppy and beautiful. You know, they're

462
00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: like such like Tan California.

463
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, every ten year old has good hair,

464
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,479
Speaker 2: Like I had good hair when I was ten. This

465
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about. And then she's valorizing youth

466
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: and not embracing the messy truth.

467
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: Which is like boys hair gets worse with a yes,

468
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: it gets dry, it gets frizzy, it gets receding.

469
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,239
Speaker 2: It's just kind of like, what do you guys have?

470
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: It's actually for sis men, it's actually really hard.

471
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 2: It's like it's and it's getting shorter all the time

472
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 2: because of parabins and plastics.

473
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: And the cell phones.

474
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 2: The cell phones.

475
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: It's like, so you have hair, it's flowing. I remember

476
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: always getting frustrated because I wanted everyone to be a

477
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: greaser of like boys in my elementary school getting just

478
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: like really boring your classic like little boy haircut. And

479
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: I was always like, I don't know why these boys

480
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: aren't growing it out and slicking it back at age

481
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: ten and.

482
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: You were trying, you were trying to like slipt them

483
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: move bored.

484
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like love, just like Stoff going to

485
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: Supercot for at least two months. Okay, grow it out,

486
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: Like let's get some moose coing. So Timmy and David.

487
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 2: These little ten year old greasers.

488
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah my gang. Okay. So she has this idea because

489
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: she's like working with her best friend Page and they're

490
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: doing catering. It's also very Grayson Frankie where she has

491
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: like so many businesses always.

492
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah no, she's launching too many businesses. And we'll get

493
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: to all the businesses that she's launching now because it's

494
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: insane and it's like girl on and these are working.

495
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: But she and Page are doing this catering, and then

496
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: she's like being so mommy brained and like wanting her

497
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: hair to be nice and feel more confident. And so

498
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: then she gets the idea for straight at home and

499
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: she goes, I started this new venture by first catering

500
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: to my Yahoo mom group called Peachheads. Then she starts

501
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: catering to her peachheads, and she's like going to these

502
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: women's houses and they're loving it. And then she's driving.

503
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: There in her like nissanic Sterra.

504
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, this was so funny. Okay, the ex Sterra

505
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 2: is like, actually was such a canonically yellow and I

506
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: feel like she probably had a yellow Exterra because dry

507
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: Bar canonically has their branding color is yellow. Oh is yeah,

508
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: And one of the things that they actually pioneered in

509
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: millennial branding is owning one color. I cannot tell you

510
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: how many branding meetings I have been in with like

511
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: a founder who is just like, we'd really love to

512
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: do something like dry Bar and own a color.

513
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: Stop and they say, like dry Bar.

514
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, where they're like the way that they own yellow.

515
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: This is huge, not really in branding but in customer service,

516
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: which I think has also really changed where I feel

517
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: like before in the nineties it was all about being

518
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: exclusive and just like, why are you an at the store,

519
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: pretty woman? And she'd switched it up. If you ever

520
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: worked with me at Drybar, you may remember how much

521
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: I talked about the greeting. If you wanted to irritate

522
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: a shit out of me, you could greet someone with

523
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: a very flat and cold do you have an appointment?

524
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: Nails on a chalkboard? The worst Instead I coach bartender

525
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: also to call all the hairstyle as bartenders to greet

526
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: clients with a different approach, such as, Hey, Sally, nice

527
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: to see you. Let me get you checked in, would

528
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: you like a mimosa or a glass of water? Or

529
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: if they didn't know the client's name, they could say

530
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: hi there at welcome, it's so nice to see you.

531
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: How can I help you today?

532
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 2: I really want to test this out, like, can we

533
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: go to Drybar and we walk in without an appointment?

534
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 2: Are they going to go, Hey, there and nice to

535
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 2: see you. How can I help you today? Are they

536
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: going to bed?

537
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: Do you have an appointment? That's that's the mood.

538
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: That's the mood, and that's the tone for the entire experience.

539
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: And let me just say this, tell your messy truth.

540
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: She doesn't mention Drybar's ownable color in this book, which

541
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: is kind of crazy because you think something to be

542
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: so proud of. She just doesn't mention who came up

543
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: with the name Driver, which says to me she definitely

544
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: did not come up with the name.

545
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: She gives a lot of thanks to her heathy husband

546
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: Cam for the branding.

547
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm guessing that he came up with the name.

548
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: So I think he came because if she came.

549
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: Up with that, honey, she'd be taking credit.

550
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: Because they already worked in marketing. When he was like

551
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: proposing in Central Park, he came up with most amazing thing,

552
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: which when they were just starting out, not even like coupons,

553
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: but basically like gift cards as bar coasters that said

554
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: lucky Bitch on them with the eyes of risk start out,

555
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: and she would go everywhere and hand them out.

556
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: And she'd be at lessons, she'd be at Whole Foods

557
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: in Brentwood handing out Lucky Bitch coasters and she was like,

558
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: people ate those up, and it's like, yes they did.

559
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: I always had a stash in my purse.

560
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 2: No, she kind of invented millennial branding and she is

561
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: a genius for it.

562
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: And so as all this is happening, she's like, I

563
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: finally feel alive. And she's like everyone thought we had

564
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: the perfect marriage. My husband running the shit out of

565
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: making Lucky Bitch coasters. It's like again signing, if your

566
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: husband is coming up with coasters that's say lucky Bitch

567
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: on them.

568
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: He's not straight, I mean is not straight. He's certainly

569
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: not digging you down the way you want to be

570
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: dicked down.

571
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: Let's get to the divorce. Let's get to selling.

572
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: Dr okay to the divorce, that this is the divorce,

573
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: as we've been mentioning, like, she doesn't want this. He there,

574
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: so this this part really killed me, she goes. Cam

575
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: was what i'd call metrosexual, painting his nails, wearing overalls,

576
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: living a creative life wearing overalls. I'm dead.

577
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: He was living a creative life wearing overalls.

578
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: And I admired his style. But as the big Boss,

579
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: I was in charge of things all day, every day,

580
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 2: so at home I wanted someone else to take the reins.

581
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: I longed for a chivalrous guy who took care of me,

582
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: aka the top.

583
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: And he's in there on photoshop on the overalls, and

584
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: he says to her in one of their couple's therapy

585
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: sessions or something. She says to him, I want you

586
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: to take care of me, and he says right back

587
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: at her, I want you to take care of me.

588
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: Oh man wants some mommy, Yeah.

589
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: He wants she goes. I do believe couple should care

590
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: of each other, but I personally wanted to live much

591
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: more in my feminine than masculine back then. I just

592
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: didn't realize it yet.

593
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: She's being very that cult doc I watched about the

594
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: divine feminine or the divine masculine, and she wants she

595
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: wants to live in the divine femme.

596
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, she she wants to get choked out.

597
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: It all kind of comes to a head literally when

598
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: she's on a work trip and she sees a rocker

599
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: on a plane and they just make eyes.

600
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they're.

601
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: Seated next week. This part is where it's so movie.

602
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 2: Where it's just like and she knows it's a movie.

603
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: She knows. She was like, we lock eyes. We spun

604
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: the whole plane ride talking to each other, and then

605
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: he is like, I'm gonna kill myself. I don't get

606
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: your number. They part ways. Then he walks back to

607
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: her and is like.

608
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: He goes, I held my birthday to stop right in

609
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: front of me, my heart thumping madly in my chest,

610
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: and again full sleeved tests on this guy. He grinned

611
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: and raked a hand through his hair. I forgot my luggage,

612
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: he said, note to self, life is not our com Well,

613
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: I was bumping in not Professor's at or seeing me

614
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: that night the fact that they forgot his luggage. Man,

615
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: he clearly was distracted and kind of into me. No,

616
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: It's like yes, obviously. And then they're texting, and then

617
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: she meets a very well known personality in Nashville. I'm

618
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: dying to know.

619
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: I Am just dying to know. And then there's a

620
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: lot of Wait, you'd probably look it up because a

621
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: lot of photos come out. She tags a photo on Instagram.

622
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: So it was right after she was in Atlantic City

623
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: for the Miss America.

624
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: Pet which is so crazy. She's just like, things were

625
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: crazy at Drybar. I was judging the Miss America pageant.

626
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: Okay, if we can look up when she judged the

627
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: Miss America pageant and then look at like her trip

628
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: to Nashville right after whatever year that was, I feel

629
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: like maybe we can fine.

630
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Figure it out. The club kid detectives because when she

631
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: comes home, her husband is pissed.

632
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: Because he sees all the tagged photos of her in

633
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: this well known personality in Nashville.

634
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, then she tells her husband like she wants to break.

635
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: Then the next morning they do emergency couple therapy and

636
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm done that.

637
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: Okay, to me, it was emotional terrorism. You break up

638
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: with him in the therapy session, and like if a

639
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: breakup happens naturally in couples therapy, that it just like

640
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: comes out conversation like okay, fine, but I'm just like

641
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: this was her. She's like, I made up my mind

642
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: and then I like she calls the therapist immediately to

643
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: schedule an emergency.

644
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: She says, a late night, and so you know she's

645
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: being also brought this entire book. She's being so crazy

646
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: CEO and always being like, people hated me at Drybar.

647
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: I read havoc in the boardroom.

648
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. She's always like, yeah, and maybe don't send that

649
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: insidious text to the person and that you're feuding with

650
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: at the office and you're like, oh, you're a huge bet, You're.

651
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: A huge best I feel like she was walking Dry

652
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: Bar just being like, this is a fucking mess in here.

653
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: I kind of would actually love to read the unauthorized

654
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: biography and like hear all of the insane stories of

655
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: her being insane bitch at work.

656
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: And she's been like and that's why I needed to center,

657
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: because I was the hugest bitch in the world. And

658
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, can you give us an example, like.

659
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Maybe just one example, can we find I'm.

660
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: Sure it was a ten pm emergency LA therapy and

661
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: he Cam is thinking like, oh, this is to work

662
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: on our marriage and how you hooked up with the

663
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: well known personality right, No.

664
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: She's eaten up by Ryan Seacrest for hours like a

665
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: real man.

666
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's really understanding in therapy and she's like,

667
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: this is so dope. And then the next day she

668
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: literally is at QVC and she's like, cut to me

669
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: walking through the hallways of QVC on the phone with

670
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Cam and my couple's therapists trying to figure out custody

671
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: and that scene do you need I'm just like, I

672
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: just feel like she's using the therapist.

673
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: Like as armor, yeah, like as a weapon, as to

674
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: be like I need an ally, I need backup, like

675
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 2: like and she's acting like she's doing it because it's like, Oh,

676
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: it's so important to have like a neutral figure and

677
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: it's kind of just like, at the end of the day,

678
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: no one knows what goes on in a marriage besides

679
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: the two people in a marriage, and that's so true,

680
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: and that's where the real work needs to be done

681
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: and you can't just like outsource it.

682
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: She got like she's like, I feel like they did

683
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: all the processing and breaking up and then you can

684
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: have the therapist be like, let's stop and reset.

685
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Okay. So basically she and Cam get divorced and.

686
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: The worst thing ever happens. Her son becomes addicted to pot.

687
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: And then there's like so many chapters about her son

688
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: is into pot and she like needs him to rehab

689
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: and he's like a cutter and.

690
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: She's like, sometimes he was he was so addicted. He

691
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: smoked weed at school.

692
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: It's like, babe, sounds normal as hell. And then she's

693
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: sending him to promises.

694
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: She sends him to I kid you not three different

695
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: rehabs are being addicted to weed. It's very are like

696
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: you don't want him home.

697
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: And she's also been such it's just an ad. She's like,

698
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: then we sent him to the Polaris Institute. As soon

699
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: as I pulled up in See Me Valley and saw

700
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: a beautiful seven bedroom home, like all of my fears

701
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: were quelled, just like it just always this real estate

702
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: portant to.

703
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: Her, No, and then she's like, then, actually he went

704
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: to like an outward bound and she's like it was

705
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: so amazing. Cam and I came to visit him and

706
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: he was cooking us fabulous meals.

707
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: She's just so us because she like always sees things

708
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: in terms of restaurants. She goes, we were at a

709
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: Greek restaurant and Ventura Boulevard and Sherman Oaks when in

710
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: a fit of rage, Grant rolled up the sleeves of

711
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: his oversized sweatsher peeled a football tape off his wrists

712
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: and revealed something that would hot me for years. I

713
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: gas of the dozens of cuts on his splash.

714
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: So it's like revealing that is us running a book,

715
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: being like my son is a cutter at a neo to.

716
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: Verna in Sherman Oaks in this like big parking plaza

717
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: and like.

718
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: We had gotten a mixed grill.

719
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: I also love how she was like so when she

720
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: like starts dating again, she starts seeing a matchmaker and

721
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: there's a reveal that a private matchmaker costs one hundred

722
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: thousand dollars.

723
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: Makes sense.

724
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: She's insanity and she's like, I was on my way

725
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: to meet my son for dinner, which.

726
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: Is so la was the most She's like, oh yeah,

727
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: my son is meaning from dinner.

728
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: And that's when she like gets a text from like

729
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: a hawk guy that she's like, wait a minute, like

730
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: maybe this could be him. She goes, I was learning

731
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: I was now later in life, a completely different person

732
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: attracted to a completely different type of man. I wanted

733
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: someone strong and assertive but not threatened by my success.

734
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: It's like, again, so top top, but I think it's

735
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm the first woman in the world who's ever wanted

736
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: a strong, assertive man who's not threatened by my success.

737
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: But it's classic female founder problems hashtag female founder problems,

738
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: where like and the guy says this on a date,

739
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: He's like, I bet guys who make less than you

740
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: are intimidated by you.

741
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they like don't know how to handle her

742
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: and they're scared.

743
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a card to be a

744
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: rich woman dating And it's like you go to Miranda

745
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Lambert Row obviously just like find your trophy husband.

746
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: And I think that's what you should do. Yeah, quite frankly,

747
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: like d Smith that says like date like a man,

748
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: like go find your babbed cop.

749
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: Kim wanted to date someone her level Kanye and ended

750
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: the shambles.

751
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: Well, yep, they were together for like nine years, true,

752
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: and they had they have beautiful children.

753
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh the children.

754
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: You are not about to hear it to sit here

755
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: and call that marriage a failure.

756
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: No, no, no, And if a marriage ends, it's not a failure.

757
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: Also like that marriage was like a huge success for

758
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: her brand. Okay, it's like really built her.

759
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's a classic like mandating Kardashian

760
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: where they're like, I get usurped by just like the

761
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: all the female founders in this family.

762
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Kim has the advanta have been like

763
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: sort of like and like classically having this like boudhesious

764
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: body to the like everyment once and she's like gorn

765
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: Arminian like Kirby Goddess.

766
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like I think it's hard for.

767
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: Female No, no, no, And like obviously a rich finance

768
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: guy like wants like a buxome twenty seven year old

769
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: marketing girl, not necessarily like a boxom ceo, a buxom

770
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: CEO who's forty one and maybe less not so so buxome.

771
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: Because like they want to come home be like oh

772
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: the office was so hard, right, And the buxom forty

773
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: one year old CEO is like still on keynote, which

774
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: is why usually I think like successful. People's second marriages

775
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: usually end up being like smoother because it's like your

776
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: pedal to the metal in the first marriage.

777
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: Yes, and you would think her second marriage was so.

778
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: She meets a guy named Adrian. He's perfect. He's a

779
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: finance gay finance.

780
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: F Wait, le, let me read you the wedding scene.

781
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: I stood inside my gorgeous bridal suite at the Landsby

782
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: Hotel in Solivan, California, staring at my bouquet of delicate

783
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: garden roses in varying hues of mauv compliments of creative

784
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: light design that match my custom made pink dress, compliments

785
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: of Emily Current and Merret Elliott, the brilliant, talented designers

786
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: and founders of the.

787
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: Great Great This discri like ugh, creative, just saying creative

788
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: light design.

789
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: By the end of the book, it's just spun con

790
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: and you're just like any.

791
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: Follow Emily Current, Flowers and Events. Then the most basic

792
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: thing in the world happens. As she's walking down the aisle.

793
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: On the other side of where I stood, one hundred

794
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: and thirty guests waited for me as what a wonderful

795
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: world By Louis Armstrong plate Are you kidding?

796
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: So fucking Kate, I'd say it.

797
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: I walked armine arm with my father down the veranda

798
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: that overlooked our beautiful community of friends and family that

799
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: into the core is that led down the steps for

800
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: my beloved boys were waiting to meet me and walk

801
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: me to Adrian.

802
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: And then he's sang some kind of wonderful to her

803
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: at the wedding.

804
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Which is also so Kid had some so kind.

805
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: Wonderful and she's like, oh my god, I can't believe

806
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: you're singing. Stop. But then he has a really good

807
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: voice and it's.

808
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Like her two older boys, his two younger kids, and

809
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: there she's like, we had our first big family dance,

810
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: which was so Kid had some in family bed and

811
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: she's like, we were glowing and we brought the house down.

812
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. So she gets married again, she's launching a million

813
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: new businesses, COVID.

814
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: Hits all the dry bars closed, but thankfully she already

815
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: sold her business. Yeah, And then also the end of

816
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: the book, she's like, Yeah, was my ego hurt that

817
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: I wasn't asked to stay on drybar in any sort

818
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: of form, like any sort of like kind of fake title.

819
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: She's like yes, But ultimately like you have to breathe

820
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: and let go. And it's like she's actually not giving

821
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: you the messy truth about these negotiations at all, and

822
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: you're like, truth, I'm sure, Like there were so many

823
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: issues with your leadership, like you were micromanaging, like insanely.

824
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: You had like a huge row with like the CFO,

825
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: with like the CMO, like everyone wanted you gone.

826
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: I feel like she thought she was going to get

827
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: like creative Chief Associate Global.

828
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, thought like ambassador at large or whatever, and then

829
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,959
Speaker 2: we're like, we don't even want you to be at large,

830
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: like please, you've absolutely gone. Okay, So here are the

831
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: other businesses that she's now working on these days now

832
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: as a proud investor, advisor and co founder of Squeeze,

833
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: the Massage, One Okay Humans, the Future of face to

834
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: face talk Therapy, and bright Side and Infrared Yoga and

835
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: Sana Studio, I am not in the weeds like I

836
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: was in early Drybar days. I've had the freedom to

837
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: explore new things, new roles and experiences. To date, I

838
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: said on the board of the largest medical spawn in

839
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: the United States, Ideal Image, and I served as an

840
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: advisor to Glowbar, a kick ass thirty minute expert facial concepts,

841
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Speaker 2: as well as the Bardeu, a wedding day onside beauty

842
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: bus concept.

843
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: When she ended with the Bardeu, I was like, you're out.

844
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: Also saying I'm on the board of the largest medical

845
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: spaw in the world is such an iconic sentence.

846
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: So you might be thinking, Wow, I guess she does

847
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 2: have it all. She's on the she's on the board

848
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: of the Bardeux, and she married her perfect man at

849
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: a gorgeous wedding with creative light design flowers, and.

850
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: He's saying to her at the reception. Well in May

851
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: of this.

852
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: Year, twenty twenty three, after.

853
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: She probably wrote this kind of whole book.

854
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: And it was about to go to print and know yeah,

855
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: then we get to afterward pitched two A seven.

856
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: I've been dreading this, dreading adding this, but I feel

857
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: I owe it to all of you to be as

858
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: truthful and as transparent as possible.

859
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: So here goes. On May seventeenth, twenty twenty three, Adrian

860
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: and I separated. The simple reason is that we both

861
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: wanted something that never came to be.

862
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: To protect our children, I am going to keep the

863
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: rest private, but here is what I will share. Her

864
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: classic thing. I will keep everything private, but what I

865
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: will share is this.

866
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: I'll say something kind of like vague and somehow business y,

867
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: and she just goes, uh, yeah, myself worth has been

868
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: in tangled with many things. And then she's like, so

869
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: basically like, I was too obsessed with like having an

870
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: husband and like being a CEO, and I didn't realize

871
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 2: that only me can make myself happy.

872
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: And what's funny is because she said when she found

873
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: Adrian she was over like finding validation with men and

874
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: being a CEO. And then it's kind of like you

875
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: did it again. So oops.

876
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's the messy truth.

877
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: She's now separated.

878
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: I wish are the best, and I'm sure she will

879
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: find love, but she doesn't need to because you can

880
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: love yourself.

881
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: I think it's time for her to be you know it,

882
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: single lesbian.

883
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I bet that's coming.

884
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: It has to come.

885
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: That literally has to come.

886
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone else on the board of the medical.

887
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: She's about to meet her g flips. Yeah, she's her

888
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: h flip club.

889
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: The mass segments, what does she wear, what does she eat?

890
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: How does she live? How does she live? California?

891
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: Hollywood Cream couches.

892
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: Cream couches. But to me, she's also so it's it's

893
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: hanging ropes and it's not a no. I meant that

894
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: kind of in a more boho way, less nautical anthropology. Yeah,

895
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: I think she's kind of anthropology, like fake hippie.

896
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: I don't think there's that much color going on. I

897
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: think it's neutrollia. Honey. It's dry bar so minimal neutral.

898
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: Maybe I was gonna say, maybe she has the dark

899
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: green cabinets, but I don't even think she does.

900
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: No, not no, because it's Cali.

901
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just all like.

902
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: I guess I thought maybe she has this mustard yellow

903
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: sectional because Barriello.

904
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I could see her having a jewel tone sectional.

905
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: I think it's maybe a darker color. And she's a mom.

906
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: She's a mom of two boys that you turn on

907
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: with a button. Yeah, she's big like shocket fire pit outside.

908
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: Also, do they have dogs?

909
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think she's two huge dogs.

910
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Like she talks about her like bachelor ratt Pad that

911
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: she moved to that in like the hills that she loved,

912
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: and I feel like that had a little bit more

913
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: like wood to it. But I feel like now she's

914
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: back in more of a like Sherman Oaks mansion, and.

915
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: She's like walking around with like Henry her dog. Yeah,

916
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: and like Henry has saved her through some of the darkest.

917
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: Does she keep an apartment in Murray Pill?

918
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: I think she's just hotel, Like I think she's just

919
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: standard when she comes here, Yeah, what did she she says, Well,

920
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: she the first meal she mentions the book is.

921
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: The coral chicken salad, which is so nice, coral.

922
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: Chinese solid, which is the most la thing you can eat.

923
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, like from like whatever Jones on third. Yeah, she's

924
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: very Jones on third. And she's getting there like not

925
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: that good mac and cheese, not the mac and cheese. No,

926
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 2: she's obviously getting like a big almond bowl with like.

927
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: Big but when I read that, I was, I want

928
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: a Chinese chick on solid right now.

929
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: But she's gassy.

930
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: I think she's also athletic greens.

931
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: Oh, and she's having so many like gas stric pills.

932
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: And gas pills and like enemas and like dry animas.

933
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: She's going to like so many medical spots. And she's

934
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: not natty wine. But like she obviously will have been

935
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: a Guggio.

936
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: She's that cheesy.

937
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: I do think she's a cheesy Yeah. Absolutely.

938
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I feel like a friend is bringing over a bottle

939
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: of natural wine and she's into it, but she's not

940
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: like getting it for herself.

941
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: She's very slowly slipping that one glass. What does she wear?

942
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean she's just wearing like leather jeggings

943
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: and blazers. She's a girl boss and girl.

944
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: Boss and jewelry and the hair is blown out.

945
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: But it's also always like a pant suit that's like

946
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: so high waisted with like really wide leg.

947
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: And like neutrals sweatsuits.

948
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't even think she's even that sweatsuit because

949
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: she like cannot be girl bus for two seconds. She

950
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: always needs to be like ready to be on a panel,

951
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: and she's always she's always doing a ted X talk

952
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: about like how women need to speak their truth and

953
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: live their podcast.

954
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: She's in like a beautiful cashmir blazer.

955
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 2: Cash weird.

956
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm making a women's clothes at this line. Okay, who

957
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: are you in the book? I'm cage. I'm running a

958
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: catering business that my friend is like.

959
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm out, okay, but are you her weed?

960
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: No? I was so like too afraid to smoke weed

961
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: at school. I smoked weed at school once and I

962
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: was like so nervous.

963
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: Okay, good e fucking.

964
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: Cus.

965
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: You're a little more of the sun, am I soo cam,

966
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm so not paying in fingernails, but or tapun.

967
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: No, you're more grant and like a big hoodie and

968
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: you're like addicted to weed at promises.

969
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I am always like I should go on out.

970
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: We're bound for six months and this comes back to

971
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: my fantasy. Okay, I am the sun in your page.

972
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: How do I rate this book?

973
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: My god, it's hard the last.

974
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm obsessed with how it's just spon con.

975
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: I think that's incredible. I love the reveal that she

976
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: ultimately did get divorce from her second perfect husband that

977
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: I was about.

978
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: To give this book like, I was like, I'm obsessed

979
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: with her, and the vibe that you're also just like

980
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: give me one piece of tea and this is bookause

981
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: a random and a journal and I was gonna do

982
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: like three point two, but when she reveals that.

983
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: Her and her second husband, that bumped it up to four.

984
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, bitch coasters for me, I will say it's this

985
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: book is so padded, like it's barely like one to

986
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: eighty seven pages and at for every chapter she's trying

987
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 2: to pretend like it's this business workbook and she's giving

988
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: you lessons that are like speak your truth, and then

989
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: there's like three pages of blank lines for you to

990
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: write the answer to your question like what's.

991
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: Why did you do enjoy doing most as a child?

992
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: What is one thing you've never told anyone?

993
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: What does success look like to you? It's a little

994
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: bit just like, we don't need to be doing this.

995
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 2: This isn't helpful for anyone.

996
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: How would you live your life if there were no consequences?

997
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: That one actually shook me.

998
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: What's shock? It is just like it's not really a

999
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: business book like that. There's very few business lessons in yeah,

1000
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: other than just like make good friends with like a

1001
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: venture capitalist who will invest in you even though it's

1002
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: slightly below their threshold for.

1003
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: Investing, and you'll figure out on the dividends. It's like,

1004
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, oh wait her other wait, this was

1005
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: my favorite advice that I actually do think is really good.

1006
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: Go to events. Yes, she was like, you don't know

1007
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: how many deals go down at events?

1008
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: Go to event and she.

1009
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: Was like, I know you may want to be binging

1010
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: on the couch go to events.

1011
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: And it's so hard because we can all get into

1012
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: the Netflix and chill space.

1013
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: But it's also sometimes you have to also know when

1014
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: it's you don't need to go to an event. I

1015
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: think the event balance is really good.

1016
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: So true, No one, you don't need to go to

1017
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: an event. Well, ladies, send us pics if you're blowout.

1018
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah seriously, or like blowouts from like another time, Like

1019
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 1: I want to see photos from twenty sixteen at your blowout.

1020
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 2: And let us know if you're able to successfully book

1021
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: a massage on Squeeze.

1022
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: Or if you're doing a face to face talk therapy.

1023
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: Session, or if you ordered a mobile makeup bus from

1024
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: the Bardou at your wedding.

1025
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: Okay, best lucky bitch. This lucky ass bitch of a

1026
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: podcastle Read book Club, hosted by two lucky bitches Stephen

1027
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: and Lily.

1028
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: Was produced by Derby Masters, with whom I co founded

1029
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: a new app that lets you book a space on

1030
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Speaker 2: a beach when you're on vacation and you are worried

1031
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Speaker 2: about the crowds. It's called your Beach.

1032
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: The supervising producers Abu Zafar, who yes, we had a

1033
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: huge following out once two years ago when we opened

1034
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: a medical spab and now we're back on great terms

1035
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: and richer than ever. Sabody Book Club was produced by

1036
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: executive producer Christina Everett, who has such fabulous, amazing hair.

1037
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: Yes I'm taking credit. This podcast was co created with

1038
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: prolonged projects in Fort Lauderdale.

1039
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: Our theme song was made by Stephen Phillips Horst, who

1040
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: launched a really, really unique company that brings pianos to

1041
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: underprivileged women who are in the hospital or piano related illnesses.

1042
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: The cover art was done by Teddy Binks, who's a

1043
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: kick ass creative man.

1044
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: He did the branding for My divorce.

1045
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Speaker 1: Follow us on Patreon, which is a really cool website

1046
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Speaker 1: for creatives and rock stars and kick assory.

1047
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: And come see us at the Patreon conference this coming

1048
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Speaker 2: Thursday in Minneapolis. Will be speaking on a panel about

1049
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 2: creating change within your workplace and how to lead as

1050
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: a woman.