WEBVTT - Give Me Some Headlines: Current Copulations Pt. 1

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<v Speaker 1>So have you ever heard of July tenth as seven

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<v Speaker 1>ten day?

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<v Speaker 2>Seven ten day? That is not familiar to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's surprisingly because it's a weed holiday. No shita

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<v Speaker 1>twenty Yeah apparently. And this is I am h O

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<v Speaker 1>real dumb. It's called seven ten day because when you

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<v Speaker 1>turn seven ten upside down, it looks like oil. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all about different types of oil THHC, like shatter or vapes. Okay, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is legit. I mean obviously it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a hallmark holiday for weed. Like they just made it

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<v Speaker 1>up to sell shit, right holidays are Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just thinking to myself like, well, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like, what the fuck does I have to do

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<v Speaker 2>with anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Fair Well, in remembrance of seven ten day, which was

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, remember many days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know what, babe, I will unlike other days,

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<v Speaker 2>I will smoke wheat on some intent.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you got it. You gotta cook up some shatter.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't know about all that.

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<v Speaker 1>What else? Tell them what we're watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we're finally watching the Bear finally, So now we're

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<v Speaker 2>in season two, so everyone can stop yelling at us

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<v Speaker 2>about seeing the Bear.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoyable Yeah, perfectly enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's definitely a part of me that was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of wish that I had watched a show

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<v Speaker 2>like this before I worked at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious what the difference is. We both worked for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time in restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's something about the attitude that they're bringing to

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<v Speaker 2>their careers and wanting, you know, to put their best

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<v Speaker 2>foot forward and stuff like that. And there's sometimes when

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was younger, and it's not my business,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't care, you know, like I'm just there

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<v Speaker 2>to make my money and leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but there were.

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<v Speaker 2>Times when I would think to myself, like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to, you could you could think about this

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<v Speaker 2>in a more serious way, like thinking about being the

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<v Speaker 2>first person somebody sees that morning and setting a tone

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<v Speaker 2>for their day and like smiling over their coffee and

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<v Speaker 2>making it a cheerful experience so that they're like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel good this morning, I'm gonna go tackle my

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<v Speaker 2>day like you know you can, you can think or

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<v Speaker 2>being the person at the end of the day that's

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<v Speaker 2>like providing a really nice meal and people remember what

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<v Speaker 2>they worked so hard for delicious food, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and enjoy myself and have someone wait

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<v Speaker 2>on me. Like there is something about that service that

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<v Speaker 2>you're providing that you can take a lot of pride in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think I had that at all. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I hate everything and everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, it was very dependent on that two

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<v Speaker 1>way street, right, like if the customer, you know, had

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<v Speaker 1>an attitude of you're the machine that brings me my sustenance, now.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it right, pon pon nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking the other day of a table

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<v Speaker 1>of these you know, I was oney five. They were

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<v Speaker 1>probably close to my same age, maybe a little younger,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the worst day. I mean, a brunch

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<v Speaker 1>shift on Saturday is something that everyone should have to

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<v Speaker 1>do in their life so that they can understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>and like it should be mandatory for citizenship. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should have to do, you know, eighteen months of brunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Service or at least some brunch and then like a

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas retail yeah right right, you know, three months of

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<v Speaker 2>seasonal retail.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, don't get me started, but we should all

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<v Speaker 1>be rotating jobs. But anyway, so horrible, horrible day, and

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<v Speaker 1>this table these three kids just like, you know, very

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<v Speaker 1>average table. They were fine, they got their food, they

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<v Speaker 1>were nice. They left, and they left this little like

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<v Speaker 1>pre printed punch out card that was just like hope, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>having a great day, you know, something positive written on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember specifically what it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those like Dove chocolate wrappers messages, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little punch out, little piece of card stock.

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<v Speaker 1>And i'mlike almost started weeping, and I went out outside

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<v Speaker 1>and I found them in the parking lot talking and

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<v Speaker 1>I was holding back tears and I'm like, I've just

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<v Speaker 1>been having a really awful day and that was just

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<v Speaker 1>really nice, and that was a really nice gesture, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted you to know that it made me

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<v Speaker 1>feel good on a bad day. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>girls was like can I give you a hug? That's like, yes, please,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's hugged the stranger of the parking lot. All right, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I you know, I got through that day and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a whoof that was one of the tough ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it has been a week for us. We're dogs sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a new house guest, Lee Low. If anybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to foster or adopt an adorable seven year old

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<v Speaker 1>gray pit bull with the sweetest heart in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's looking for a home. We're kind of halfway

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<v Speaker 1>housing her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's it. That's what we're doing right now. Halfway

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<v Speaker 2>house for dogs. Yeah, not a bad gig, No.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. It's not. It's nice to have them for

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<v Speaker 1>a little short spurts. So that's been our week. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big whole world out there that also had

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<v Speaker 1>a week that's so true, and we want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that a little bit today. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just a lot of stuff in the news recently

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<v Speaker 2>about sex and marriage. Last well, guest Week and a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks sure, and some that y'all sent us.

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<v Speaker 2>Some listeners sent us some headlines or tagged us, and

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<v Speaker 2>some stories and we were like, well, dang, let's throw

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<v Speaker 2>together some current copulation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's so nice to be thought about. It

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<v Speaker 1>is when you're out there and you're just reading the

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<v Speaker 1>news and you're like, I know, who needs to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about this Elian.

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<v Speaker 2>Diana a giant dildo in Mexico? Yeah, I know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know who needs to know about it?

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<v Speaker 1>The thoughts that make people think of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to be associated with giant statues. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>recently there's been some like ethics questions about AI sex robots.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we love talk about AI up in here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a mayor who married a reptile in Mexico. There

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<v Speaker 2>were several pieces of legislation or like court cases that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of caught our eye. There's some new stats on

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<v Speaker 2>marriage in the US that people were talking about, just

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different things. So I say, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>dive into this smorgage board of sex and marriage news.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, their French come listen. Well, Eli and Diana got

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<v Speaker 2>some stories to tell. There's no match making a romantic.

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<v Speaker 3>Tips, It's just about ridiculous relations shit, I love.

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<v Speaker 2>There might be any type of person at all, and

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<v Speaker 2>abstract concept on a concrete wall. But if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>story worth a second glans ridiculous romance.

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<v Speaker 1>A production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, recently there's been a bit of a spate of

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<v Speaker 2>people throwing things at performers in concerts, like concerts like

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<v Speaker 2>bottles and crazy, like maybe Rexo was like hitting the

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<v Speaker 2>eye with a phone or something and got like a

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<v Speaker 2>black eye.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I'm gonna go on a rent.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I'll start to say I.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll stop, but just to say it makes the news,

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<v Speaker 1>And then someone says I could do that, right, try

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<v Speaker 1>to get the views and the clicks and the hits

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff, and it's awful.

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<v Speaker 2>I did see someone be like, well, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the you know, seventies and eighties, we were throwing

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<v Speaker 2>shit at the CES two, and of course if you

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<v Speaker 2>go all the way back to Shakespeare times, they were

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<v Speaker 2>throwing shit. So it's like kind of an old behavior

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<v Speaker 2>and not a new behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the other side of it, too, where the news

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<v Speaker 1>reflects trends that already existed, but makes them seem like

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, this month, we're going to report a lot

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<v Speaker 1>on this thing that's happening as if it's new. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in half of it is so that oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>hey boomers, what do you think about this? And like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>hey millennials, you know, so we can all argue with

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<v Speaker 2>each other exactly. In fact, we're all the worst so

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<v Speaker 2>and have been forever. But the reason we're bringing this

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<v Speaker 2>up is because this time, at a Lil nas X

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<v Speaker 2>concert in Stockholm, Sweden, someone threw a vagina shaped sex

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<v Speaker 2>toy at Lil nas X and of course little Na's

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<v Speaker 2>a humorous guy. It's in a great sense of humor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so apparently he just dodged it. And then he picked

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<v Speaker 2>up and asked the crowd, quote, who threw their pussy

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<v Speaker 2>on stage?

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<v Speaker 1>What else can you say in that kind of situation? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I'm promise I'm not speaking of experience here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those aren't cheap. No, right, So, like, who's

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<v Speaker 1>throwing that up on stage? Like they can just give

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<v Speaker 1>it away?

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody had some good seats to the Montero tour and decide.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, you've already got disposable income.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got questions though?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it used?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it new? Was it in the box?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it homemade? The box in the box?

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<v Speaker 1>How would you homemake.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody his homemade? They're a little flashlight, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. Three D printer in a silicone mold.

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<v Speaker 2>Three D printer or pillow, uh huh?

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<v Speaker 1>And a bottle of a bottle of corn syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>Growth.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what people do. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is it so sticky? Common question? Title your sex tape?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I might prefer that though to what I think is

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<v Speaker 2>probably the most unusual thing thrown at a performer on

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<v Speaker 2>the stage, which is when Pink got showered with somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>mother's ashes no during her show what and the person

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Oh, my mom is a big fan. It's like, look, man,

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<v Speaker 2>oh that is insane to me to put some like

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<v Speaker 2>human ashes on somebody. I just think that's crazy. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how you would.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and imagine these are ashes, right, but like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a human body, and I'm just like, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know too many horror movies. I'm just transposing

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<v Speaker 1>that to other forms of the human Like if it

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<v Speaker 1>was just dismembered body parts being thrown up at Pink

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<v Speaker 1>on stage, I mean, you know, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, is it really that different. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>another chemical form of someone's corpse being thrown at you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very gross, really weird. And also like, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a fan, why would you want to disrespect her like

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<v Speaker 2>this in the middle of her performance. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>your mom would be like stop it. Pink is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do some aerial and you need to leave up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, it's not like that's some sort of permanent resting place,

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<v Speaker 1>not really like your mom's gonna get showered off, mopped up,

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<v Speaker 1>and like end up in the sewer somewhere. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't seem.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't feel respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe mom was like all I care

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<v Speaker 1>about is pink, and I just want to, even for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, be scattered over her dancing body.

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<v Speaker 2>If but one particle of my ashes goes inside her

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<v Speaker 2>eye or something, I'm forever part of pink.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. I don't know how I know. I do know

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel about that, and it's terrible. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how. I have just got in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with my feelings and I know exactly no.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to pretend like I was waffling on

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Also, I don't know if anyone's ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>actual crematorium human ashes. It's not like the dust that

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<v Speaker 1>you see in the coffee can at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>Big Lebowski, where it's just like a powder that dissipates

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<v Speaker 1>in the wind. It's like gravel. Like. Human ashes don't

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<v Speaker 1>burn down to a fine dust. They burned down to

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<v Speaker 1>like what you scoop out of the bottom of a fireplace,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a mix of dust and like large particles

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<v Speaker 1>of probably carbonized bone and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, so you're telling me that she was pelted Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>with gravelly bits. Yeah, of someone's mother, definitely, if I were,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I feel like Pink probably is like

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<v Speaker 2>all right back on the road, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But for me, I'd be like, I need a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good. Like I said, someone literally threw a

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<v Speaker 1>corpse at you, you know by any other name. So sorry, Pink. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of death, I guess that's where we're starting this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>This one little more direct dialysis patient died of a

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<v Speaker 1>heart attack during sex, now specifically sex with one of

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<v Speaker 1>the nurses that was treating him. This nurse first told

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<v Speaker 1>the police in Wales after this guy died that she

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<v Speaker 1>had no relationship with him, that he'd called her up

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<v Speaker 1>to say he wasn't feeling well and she came out

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<v Speaker 1>and just sat in his car with him for thirty

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<v Speaker 1>or forty five minutes quote, just talking. But turned out

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<v Speaker 1>that they were doing more than talking. It turned out

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<v Speaker 1>they actually had an affair for a year together.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>They met while he was you know, getting dialysis, he

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<v Speaker 1>was treating him. Yeah, and she was like, ooh, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's kidneys do not function. I gotta get me some

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<v Speaker 1>of that. And they started doing it on the date.

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<v Speaker 2>On the DL hope after all the red bull.

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<v Speaker 1>I okay, I'll just say I'm literally terrified of dialysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't do well with needles. I do not

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<v Speaker 1>like it, get a little weak in the knees. I

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<v Speaker 1>can handle it. I know some people straight up pass out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get it, but I can't like watch when

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing it, and the idea of sitting there while they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, distract yourself if you don't want to hear this,

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<v Speaker 1>but they like pull the blood out of your body,

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<v Speaker 1>throw it through a giant machine that's basically an electronic kidney,

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<v Speaker 1>and then pump it back into your body to do

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<v Speaker 1>the job that your kidneys do. And I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I could do it. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so terrified for my poor kidneys.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who had a terrible kidney disease,

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<v Speaker 2>still does. She had to have two kidney transplants.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like a spokesperson for this disease.

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<v Speaker 2>Now right, I want to say, it's FSGS, Yeah, fsgs,

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<v Speaker 2>f SGS and Yeah, her brother gave her his kidney

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<v Speaker 2>and then like a year even not not long, it

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<v Speaker 2>failed because it was too close of a match.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the disease was like great.

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<v Speaker 2>Geah, awesome, another one to pack and then she just

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<v Speaker 2>got another one. Fortunately, she got very lucky and got

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<v Speaker 2>another kidney and she's doing really well. But she was

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<v Speaker 2>on dialysis eight hours a day. Oh, Like her whole

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<v Speaker 2>job was to get her blood cleaned. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like that was her life, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I think that's what I would hate the

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<v Speaker 2>most when I think about medical problems, or like, your

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<v Speaker 2>entire existence is nothing but doctor's appointments, clean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>cleaning something out of your body, putting something in like whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting sitting waiting constantly, like pain and being uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just I just can't imagine it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do this all the time, and we all should.

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<v Speaker 1>I am very grateful that my body works as well

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<v Speaker 1>as it does. Yeah, and then I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with those and I am certainly impressed with people

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<v Speaker 1>who do. And you know whatever. We should be making

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's lives as good as we possibly can. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all could stand to be a little grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for our bodies functioning. Oh yeah, because it's wild what

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<v Speaker 1>some people have to go through just to live, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks body, keep it keep it going through, keep

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<v Speaker 1>it going, because we'll all have some problems someday. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Us being able bodied is only temporary.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, so anyway back to this story, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, this guy died of a heart attack. They

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<v Speaker 1>were having sex in his car. He's half naked, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got his pants down around his ankles. And this guy died,

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<v Speaker 1>and the nurse of course freaks out, but she decides,

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<v Speaker 1>let me call my friend and coworker and see what

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<v Speaker 1>I should do. And her friend is like, uh, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>call nine nine nine because it's the UK. So there

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<v Speaker 1>it's nine one one. Theirs is nine nine nine, which

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<v Speaker 1>actually makes more sense. It's even easier to dial, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard actually that we did that on purpose so

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<v Speaker 2>that you wouldn't accidentally call.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm wondering back when there were rotary phones, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot harder at butt dial.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but nine nine nine would take even longer because

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have to go all the way around.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine and then one one, nice and fast.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's probably what it was. You heard it hear first, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you solved the mystery anyway. In England's nine nine nine,

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<v Speaker 1>her friend is like, call nine nine nine and the

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<v Speaker 1>nurse refused. She said no. So her friend is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll be right there, and showed up and

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<v Speaker 1>she called an ambulance herself, and obviously nothing could be done.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, ambulance shows up, Obviously police show up, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's got this whole other story about what had happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking. He took his pants off. I guess, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, he just took his pants off, just.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes you're talking to people are just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, I just had a big lunch, so let

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<v Speaker 1>me just unbutton and pull all the way down around

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<v Speaker 1>my ankles. Her other nurse friend shows up and starts

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<v Speaker 1>trying to CPR this guy, which I guess this nurse

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<v Speaker 1>also didn't try, and uh yeah, it didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was taken off of work. She was she

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<v Speaker 1>was struck off and she can no longer work as

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<v Speaker 1>a nurse for having quote brought the nursing profession into disrepute,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a very British way of saying you embarrassed us.

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<v Speaker 2>All I mean, I guess I see why. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't there you know, probably not do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not probably unethical to have a relationship with your patient,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know is that true.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know it's not okay if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a doctor, you know, a psychological doctor, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>have a relationship with your patient. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's actually technically unethical. If you're just like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>seeing you for your heart and I think you're hot,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go have dinner. I don't think anyone cares about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course she's sneeking around, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>denied him care essentially because of his own shit, So

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<v Speaker 2>that would probably be more the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my question. Have you ever had a hot doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>hot doctor, or hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Nurse or hot nurse? None come to mind. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there's been some hot nurses though. Sure, But you know, again,

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<v Speaker 2>knock on wood, very very lucky to not have to

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<v Speaker 2>have cause to have many doctors or nurses.

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<v Speaker 1>About oh yeah, because you never make doctor's appointments for yourself. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>have not.

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<v Speaker 2>Needed to go and get like many operations or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I did have a hot dentist. One time.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say I had a hot dentist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hot dentists. Several of his texts were hot too,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe that's where the dental texts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh technicians, I thought you said texts like he was

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<v Speaker 1>texting you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he sent me some hot texts.

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<v Speaker 1>Did what text? His assistance text from my dentist?

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<v Speaker 2>It says, are you flossy?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Yeah, no. We recently we both had the same

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<v Speaker 1>dentist and she was hot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a little punk Rocke dentist, that's right, with a

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<v Speaker 1>very Russian name, no accent, so probably spy. And now

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<v Speaker 1>she knows all about it.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, oh, your teeth look terrible, Diana. You

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<v Speaker 2>should really do something about that. Here's a plan over

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<v Speaker 2>the next three years that will cost you twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. Also, do you know the nuclear coade?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say twenty five thousand dollars or

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<v Speaker 1>the newcle and or no it's it's not or right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your insurance is great.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to pay this bill.

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<v Speaker 1>What's great about dental insurance is that you it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>only like you know twenty five to forty bucks a month, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then if something goes wrong with your teeth, you

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<v Speaker 1>also pay for all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. But to be fair, if you call them, they

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<v Speaker 2>will laugh at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's right, they say, haha, you're poor. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't deserve good teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Having teeth was actually a pre existing condition.

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<v Speaker 1>So so maybe think about that next time and don't

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<v Speaker 1>have teeth. Good news for you.

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<v Speaker 2>On your way, they're falling out one by one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll tell you who's got great teeth? Oh cw actors, Hey,

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Like Smallville actress Alison Mack.

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<v Speaker 2>Great segue, babe, you got us from one store to

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<v Speaker 2>the other, just so we do it here, that's right. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so the Smallville actress Alison Mack, who recruited women to

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<v Speaker 2>the Nexium sex cult just got real secured and early

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<v Speaker 2>release from prison because she helped build up a case

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<v Speaker 2>against the cult leader, Keith Rainier.

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<v Speaker 1>Who worked for Okay, IoT, you get you something right.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the leader of this cult. And basically Alison

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<v Speaker 2>Mack would go out and it's just like the Galline Maxwell.

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<v Speaker 2>She was the trustworthy woman, was like, come and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>join me and my friends in this group, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know nothing crazy, All you have to do is some

0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 2>forced slave labor, post for nude photos, and perform sex

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<v Speaker 2>acts with Keith Rainy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, no, no problem. You're telling me that women can

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<v Speaker 1>also be monsters.

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<v Speaker 2>I am telling you, yeah. And I wouldn't be the

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<v Speaker 2>first sure to say it. But yeah, she did help,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, build a case against Keith. He got one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty years in prison more I know, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And she did say she was filled with guilt and

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<v Speaker 2>remorse at her trial for her actions.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I mean, this is a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, because I feel like, you know, we don't love

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<v Speaker 2>prison around here. We don'tant people to languish in prison

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<v Speaker 2>if they have no reason and if there's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be some rehabilitation. And surely she was also brainwashed, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's some sympathy for her. But also she did some

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<v Speaker 2>really fucked up shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, surely she knew that what she was doing was

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<v Speaker 1>very very bad, right, ethical and legally and all these things.

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she like enabled this crazy man and got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people traumatized. He also had them branded, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, like he would brand them with his initials

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<v Speaker 2>or something, or with annexium logo or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one of these things. Is she like, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know they consider this too, Is she likely to

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<v Speaker 1>do harm again? And probably not a she would have

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<v Speaker 1>to like probably alter her identity, fool. Everybody is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna listen to anything you say. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna take any of your recommendations. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>like the trader Joe's on fifth is better than the

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<v Speaker 1>one on twelfth, I'm gonna be like, you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>check me into a sex call, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>one on twelfth.

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<v Speaker 2>You think she's like, hey, guys, I thought i'd have

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<v Speaker 2>a little dinner party at my house. And everybody's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say what it was. I really every night

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<v Speaker 2>was coming up in the near futures.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And on that point, I don't see her as

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<v Speaker 1>a threat. So if she is willing to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>work with the system to get the guy who really

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<v Speaker 1>is the threat out, then does that not get something

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<v Speaker 1>for her? Or or do we just want vengeance? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we just want to punish her?

0:22:59.119 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm you know, I think punishment should be real,

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<v Speaker 1>but also like, is it just to make us feel better?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it to make a better world, right, right?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you make a good point. If you really

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<v Speaker 2>put yourself in her shoes and think about her, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather not. I mean I don't, but i'd try to

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<v Speaker 2>think about these things where I'm like, I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>sympathetic to this person. I don't like them. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're thinking about the movie from their perspective, she's

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<v Speaker 2>probably thinking and they are too. I'm sure the lawyers

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<v Speaker 2>in court and everything, of the years that have passed

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<v Speaker 2>since this was discovered, the time she spent in prison,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the eye of the world being upon

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<v Speaker 2>her and her name now is forever linked to this

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<v Speaker 2>Hainau's crimes and this horrible, horrible cult and everything, and

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, they're probably like, well, yeah, what are

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 2>you going to do? But go live quietly somewhere more than.

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<v Speaker 1>Likely, I mean, you know, especially while meanwhile, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>people who've done much more terrible things are out here

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<v Speaker 1>being some of the wealthiest and freest people in the

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<v Speaker 1>world and most powerful. Right, it is a little imbalance.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, so I guess what I'm saying is thrower

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<v Speaker 1>a parade. Let's give her whatever she wants hang on. No,

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just tricky with punishments. But anyway, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>point is they got him, they got him.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, they got him. Guys twenty years she was part

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<v Speaker 2>of that. And to my point, I just saying she

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<v Speaker 2>has had been she has been punished, right, she served

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<v Speaker 2>some time, She's had to deal with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>anger and justified anger. Right, true hatred probably pointed her way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's a good collection to start with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of death and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, is everyone still listening? Are we still having a fun?

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<v Speaker 1>We're laughing, We're laughing. So let's take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll reset, We'll come back with some more ridiculous romance

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<v Speaker 1>stories right after this break.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back everyone. All.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we said things we're gonna start dark and

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<v Speaker 1>get lighter. Well, I don't think we ever promised that.

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<v Speaker 2>We never promised that the problem with sex and marriage

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<v Speaker 2>in the news that it's usually.

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<v Speaker 1>Not seriously bad. I think that's we've talked endlessly about

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<v Speaker 1>this before too, but I think that's something we aim

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<v Speaker 1>for on this show. Also, it's like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these stories are pretty terrible because sometimes ridiculousness and especially sex,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't go well for somebody. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to be able to address those seriously and in

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<v Speaker 1>earnest and have some weight to it, and also like

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<v Speaker 1>not get sunk down into misery and be able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of laugh at some of the surrounding stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>the world while still respecting the nightmares that people are

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<v Speaker 1>going through. Yeah, so let's see line it is, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's see if we can laugh at this one stopping laughter.

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<v Speaker 1>In Japan, a student sued her teacher. She accused him

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<v Speaker 1>of using his position of authority to groom her into

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship because they were apparently together for ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>they took like trips together, definitely an inappropriate student teacher relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>and she says that the first time they ever dine

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<v Speaker 1>anything sexual, she felt forced. Now he claimed, now this

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<v Speaker 1>is totally consensual. Sure, I think that there's plenty to

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<v Speaker 1>say about what a teenager can consent to with a

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<v Speaker 1>grown ass adult.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, And keep in mind also culturally the difference

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 2>in Japan that has paid an elder that a woman

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<v Speaker 2>pays to a man. It's a little bit different than

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<v Speaker 2>a student teacher relationship even here, which it would still

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<v Speaker 2>be inappropriate. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I'm just thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about it because I'm like, oh, ten years, Okay, at

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<v Speaker 2>some point you decided, but you know, I do want

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<v Speaker 2>to put that extra layer there, that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more weight on that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. And that sort of explains why she stayed

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<v Speaker 1>with him for so long, because she said that she

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<v Speaker 1>kept seeing him because she was so grateful to him

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<v Speaker 1>for the treatment she got, the sort of probably status,

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<v Speaker 1>a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit opportunities for her, you know, yeah, I mean there's

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<v Speaker 2>lots of ways he could make himself useful to keep

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<v Speaker 2>her by.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So she felt like it was rude to refuse him,

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 1>which is again a lot and very much sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a grooming situation where an adult takes a teenager who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know no better and says, I'm helping you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's respectful for you to pay me back

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<v Speaker 1>in some respect, right. So she knew that this lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>against him was probably not going to succeed, and she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even really feel like a victim of sexual harassment

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>because she didn't have bruises or injuries, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>something that happens a lot. People who were abused think, well,

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't because I wasn't you know, smacked around, Yeah, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't have to be restrained physically to have

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<v Speaker 2>sex with this person. I mean we, you know, we're

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>having that conversation for the past few years about what's coercion,

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 2>enthusiastic consent, Yeah, stuff like that, And I guess this

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<v Speaker 2>article is kind of pointing out that they're not really

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<v Speaker 2>having that conversation in Japan as much so. Sexual harassment

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 2>and assault is still very much like, Oh, a guy

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<v Speaker 2>burst into your house and threatened you at gunpoint and

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 2>tied you up, and you know, it has to be

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<v Speaker 2>something very violent before it is considered to be a

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<v Speaker 2>traumatizing event.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so here's here's where it gets crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the twist.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently the professor's own wife turned around and sued the

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>girl for damages. She said, oh, your your relationship violated

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>marital civil code and that it was up to the

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>girl to end this relationship. She could have done so

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<v Speaker 1>at any time.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because Japan's civil code counts marital infidelity as a

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<v Speaker 1>breach of contract. So she says, you broke the contract

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>between my husband and I, So why wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It be the husband's fault. That's what I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>She should be suing his ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but guess what. The wife won twenty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in damages according to New York Times.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess it was just like she's shaken a

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<v Speaker 1>rolling pin and she's like, you cheated on me, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least we'll make some money.

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<v Speaker 2>Off of it. Look in my defense, my defense would

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<v Speaker 2>be I didn't make no contract with this bitch at all. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>she made a contract with her husband that he broke,

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<v Speaker 2>so y'all need to work that out. I have nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with that promise. I didn't promise you nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess it sort of balanced out because the

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<v Speaker 1>student did win some minor damages, so she was able

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<v Speaker 1>to pay it off like that. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just balanced.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so weird that the husband's like, here's my money,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, okay, thanks, I'm gonna go give it

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<v Speaker 2>to your wife.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>To give it your wife out point of any of

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<v Speaker 1>this total dog and pony.

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<v Speaker 2>Show money rigamarole.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the girl said in an interview quote, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that I was wait naive, and I still hate myself

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<v Speaker 1>for it. There's so many times I could have said

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<v Speaker 1>no and run away. Where again she's sort of blaming

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.479
<v Speaker 1>herself here for this guy, you know, getting inside her

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>brain and making her think that she owes him something.

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<v Speaker 1>She literally said that, right, I mean, yes, we all

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<v Speaker 1>have responsibility for our actions. And yes, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>ten years in like, there was a point at when

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<v Speaker 1>she were grown up enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'm not sure it wasn't a daily thing

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<v Speaker 2>or something. But you know, we look at that should

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<v Speaker 2>have been a point.

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<v Speaker 1>Lived their whole lives in cults, and then in their

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<v Speaker 1>sixties or later, they're like, what was I How was

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<v Speaker 1>I so crazy to think all this for so long?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't necessarily have as much control over your own

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts as you think you do all the time, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when people are really good, right at manipulating that

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they find a way to get in with you

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<v Speaker 2>whatever insecurity or whatever opening, right, and then they lead

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>you along just long enough that when they start to

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<v Speaker 2>suggest things that you should immediately say no to you

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.959
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, say yes, like, I mean, we've you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've all had a friend who made us do something.

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<v Speaker 2>They know, like oh, in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Cold light of day, It all seemed like a very

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<v Speaker 3>obvious thing not to do, but at the time it

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<v Speaker 3>made all of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I just unprompted our friends. Y'all know, Cherry and Jason

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<v Speaker 1>are moving, and I don't know how they got into

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>my head, but I just messaged them today and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys need some.

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<v Speaker 2>Help out of nowhere?

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<v Speaker 1>How the hell did that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, do you all need help packing? We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be there, We will be there.

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Did I say that's fair? I totally volunteered you as well.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I did not say, here's.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing, I'm being forced by my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, friends moved.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all manipulating each other here. I don't know how

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>they got helped to pack. Yeah, no, that's the truth.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>When we move, we're gonna want that out over anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Psychological manipulation. It happens to us all, It happens to

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<v Speaker 1>us all. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>There was another case tried this year in Japan where

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 2>another student accused her professor of repeatedly like inappropriately touching

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 2>her and saying sexual things to her, like that he

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 2>thought about her naked, or I'm gonna make you my

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<v Speaker 2>woman after you graduate my woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Gross.

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 2>She also was complaining that she had went to the

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<v Speaker 2>university to kind of be like, hey, this professor's saying

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 2>some gross things to me, and she was told, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>sexual harassment is something more serious, and that she had

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>quote let her guard down.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>So they kind of dismissed her complaints and did nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to the professor. And she was like, if they had

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of been a little more empathetic and listened

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>to me, it would have lessened my suffering that I

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>was going through. But they, you know, she was just

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>getting it from all sides basically. So she actually won

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 2>her case, but the court said, quote, there was no

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>evidence to recognize such behavior cross a socially acceptable line.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>What I mean, one, this is what I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand that either, because she won the case, but they

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>said the behavior wasn't bad at it.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>It was just like, yeah, yeah, fine, here's some money,

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>but nothing bad really happened here.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, don't. I don't really understand that decision, but

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it just kind of highlights like, oh, we're again.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not slapped around, there's no bruises, you're not like

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<v Speaker 2>shaking in a corner, so you're probably fine, and you

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>were just a little annoyed. So what's the big deal?

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just reminds me. I mean, you know, right here,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a lot of the same problems in schools. My

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>high school girlfriend, my first like serious girlfriend. I learned

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>from her. We completed we went to this We had

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<v Speaker 1>gone to the same middle school in different years, and

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it's an awful middle school, like just rotten place full

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>of rotten people. And she went to the administration to

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<v Speaker 1>complain about how other students were treating the other boys.

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<v Speaker 1>And definitely it was the first time I learned that

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>had been will tell you, Oh, well, boys will be boys.

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>That's literally what she heard. And I was like, what wait,

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>what's that's normal? And you just need to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so crazy to me, And it just reminds

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>me this here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane because boys will be boys is a very

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 2>common phrase to hear or like I hated it as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid. This boy keeps bothering me, poke me or

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll pull my hair. You know, he's always bothering me

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>saying something. Oh, that just means he likes you, so

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>he thinks you're cute. He's trying to flirt and I'm like, well,

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 2>that's not flirting. Why should I be feel privileged by

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:41.240
<v Speaker 2>that behavior or flattered by being annoyed and my personal

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>space being violated that why are you trying to teach

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>me that? That's like how boys flirt? Can we not

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 2>teach boys a better way of flirting? Because it used

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>to be like, let me do little services for you,

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 2>or buy you a gift, can you a flower, give

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 2>you accomplished, show up.

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>At your house every day with another piece of emerald jewelry.

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Now I just poke in hard to class.

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>He shoved me down and kicked three of my teeth out,

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, ooh k I S.

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 2>S I, and you're wedding well.

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Truly insane behavior. I'm I'm very glad. I feel like

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I became a better person by being way too terrified

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>to approach girls that I liked in middle school, probably

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>because and to me, boys will be boys was the

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff me and my boys were doing, which was like

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>seeing how many seconds it took for an egg to

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>explode in the microwave, balancing the egg on top of

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>a Bbie gun and shooting it straight up in the

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>air and watching the egg explode, or various ways of

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>making eggs explode was pretty much most of our.

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Days was really fixated on this egg thing.

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, it got us out doors. Otherwise those video games.

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Boys can't do that.

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, eggs were cheap back then, we're cheap in

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the day. Yeah, man, we really destroyed a lot of eggs.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Really contried it into the problem, starting well, boys will

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>be boys.

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 2>What do you want for me? Boys will be boys.

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's get out of this.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I know, well we will. I will say, just to

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 2>wrap up these this Japan, these Japan stories that in

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 2>both cases the teachers were fired, so they that was

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 2>at least one punishment they both received with that, Hey,

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't be around other students, right, which is a

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>good thing. And you know, and probably both of the

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>women and the stories were like, that's my ultimate goal.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't want to.

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>There's not Yeah, there's not many. I don't think there's

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>even many people who are like I want him torn

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 2>down to shreds, put into a dark cell forever and

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 2>no one ever sees his face again until he looks

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>like one of the cave creatures from the Descent, Like, wow,

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's so many people who want.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've thought this before. That was real quick.

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I have thought it about some people. But I think

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times it's just like, hey, I just

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 2>want this person to be stripped of the authority that

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 2>that gave them the power over me, that made it

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable for me. I just don't want them to have

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>that anymore. And they don't have that, Okay, now they

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 2>can move on and do whatever.

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's there. It is again of that difference

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 1>between vengeance and harm reduction.

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>We emotionally want to watch these bad people suffer, but

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>if we remove them from their teaching position, they have

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>a they have less of an opportunity to do that

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of behavior again and be hopefully other people see

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that and think twice before they behave like that, thinking well,

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, I might lose my job if I do right.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I think those are the goals you're trying to achieve.

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Or I might not be able to get this job

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 2>anywhere else if I lose it here, which is the

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 2>other goal. I think the problem is that they get

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 2>fired and then they just get hired somewhere else, so

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>you're like, well that's not enough. Then that's when you

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 2>start to get I guess I need to tear him

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>down to the little nothings so that he will never

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>be hired by anyone like ever again.

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he looks like a dissent creature.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, a descent creature.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Now. That was part of the problem with the priests, right,

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>It was like, I can't believe that you did that

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to those boys. We're gonna, oh, we've had it up

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to here with you. We are definitely transferring you to

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 1>a different church.

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 2>You're like, wait, wait where no one knows about you? Yeah,

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 2>and nacan you can be trusted all anew again by

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>a whole pile of new people. Horrible.

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Can we get out of this sexual harassment stuff?

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's talk about consent.

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about consent, but at least for robots. So

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a quick break and decide when we come

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>back from this. So we'll take a quick break and

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>decide when we come back right here today, we will

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>determine whether or not robots deserve consent themselves.

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Unlucky you, that's what we're here for. And welcome back.

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>All right. So we have talked ad nauseum on this

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>show at length and across many episodes about the future

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>of sex and technology. Right, AI chat bots doing whatever

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to do to you in the virtual setting,

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>text setting. I guess if that's your thing, we're talking

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:15.760
<v Speaker 1>of holograms, we're talking sex bots and hyperrealistic sex dolls,

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>of which there are more than fifty six thousand sold

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>every year, and ninety five percent of those sex dolls

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>are presented as female.

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, Right, Not too many male sex dolls going out

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:29.399
<v Speaker 2>the door.

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Not a lot. I guess one could argue, and I

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>don't have the stats to back this up, that if

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you want a male bodied person to have sex with you,

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it's easier to just go get one who's willing, like

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>an actual human sex doll.

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 2>A human sex doll, that's what I that's what we're

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:49.919
<v Speaker 2>looking for.

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But obviously, as these things get more advanced, as AI

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 1>is starting to come closer to simulating consciousness, certainly not

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>anywhere near actually recreating it, but sort of tricking you

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>into thinking it's there, the question becomes like, should these

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>things become sophisticated enough to require consent from their users,

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Like if you have an active sex doll that has

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.800
<v Speaker 1>a real voice and responds to you in real time

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 1>as if they're having a real conversation with you. Can

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it say no? Should it be able to right? Should

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it have to say yes? There's kind of part of

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 1>me is like black and white. No, it's not a

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>conscious being. You can't harm it. I don't understand why

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:43.760
<v Speaker 1>you would program it to be able to be harmed

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>or be traumatized. That's super weird.

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 2>That's where it gets real gross, right, because that's where

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 2>you want it to feel badly, Yes, right, like West

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 2>World style.

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:56.240
<v Speaker 1>But the argument is that pornography does have an effect

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>on our brains and how we sort of engage with

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the real world around us. It changes our chemistry, it

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>changes how we engage with sex, and the physical and

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:08.359
<v Speaker 1>visual components to a sex doll make them have an

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>even stronger impact. So if you have a sex doll

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>that you can be violent with and it's normal for

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 1>you to force yourself onto it or whatever, does that

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe teach your brain on a subconscious level where you're

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>not even aware of it, really to behave more like

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that in the real world or to be more okay

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 1>with it. Does it sort of desensitize you? Right?

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Or even like maybe that gets tied in with arousal

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>for you so you can't get to like that's what

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>sex is supposed to feel like, look like, or be like.

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>So anything else is not like how.

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>We often would have just randomly would have the radio on,

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, every time we would do it,

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy World was playing, and now I can't get it

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>on without the middle blasting at full volume.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 2>You heard it here first, guess I know it's tough.

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 2>You put the middle on.

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>You put the middle on. I'm not saying something's going

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to happen. I'm just saying something can't happen without without

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.959
<v Speaker 1>the middle on. Okay, yeah, okay, it just takes some time.

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But neither here nor even.

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 2>In the middle of the ry. Yeah, so yeah, that's

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that is the argument, right, is that pornography just visually

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 2>has enough of an effect on our brain chemistry that

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 2>people are worried that with the additional physical component, it'll

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.879
<v Speaker 2>really get in the neurons and make all the wrong

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 2>connections happen in your brain. Of course, the argument against

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 2>is your argument that it's not a it doesn't have emotions,

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have true consciousness, It cannot feel pain or

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 2>shame or any of those things. The article, by the way,

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.399
<v Speaker 2>is from decrypt dot Co. It's called do AI sex

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:55.760
<v Speaker 2>robots require consent?

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 2>And there's a sex doll maker in the article who

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>says that it would be akin to asking a banana's

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 2>permission to eat it.

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:04.919
<v Speaker 1>Okay? All right?

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 2>So you know, there's a lot of conversation back and

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>forth about whether and isn't this the thing with AI period?

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 2>What is consciousness? At what point does it cross the

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 2>line to being too much like a human being?

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Even because again, we're so far off from we can't

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>synthesize broccoli in a lab. We are so far from

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>being able to synthesize something as complicated as human consciousness.

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 2>So we don't even understand it in ourselves exactly.

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about that. But when it becomes indiscernible, even

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>though it's not really consciousness, the algorithms are so advanced

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that your brain is fooled into thinking it is. It's

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>designed to fool you. So does it still have that

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>impact on your brain? And I think this goes right

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>back to the violent video games conversation. Right to me,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I grew up with absolutely heinous video games. Not at home.

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 1>My parents were actually aggressively against violent toys, violent video games,

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, And I think that's totally fine that

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.359
<v Speaker 1>they were. They were fine with me playing whatever games

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>at my friend's house if that's what we wanted to do.

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and any number of eggs.

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, thanks one the least of it. You know,

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>we were playing Duke Nukeam and Blood and counter Strike. Yeah,

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Doom wasn't really my thing, but it's definitely around, you know,

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>very violent first person shooters stuff like that. I love

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the Grand Theft Autos. I'm a total pacifist, Like, I

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>don't have violent streaks, really, I don't think at all.

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>And for me, it's because I was well aware of

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the difference between fantasy and reality and those two parts

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of my brain did not have an overlap. But for

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 1>some people, I think it does make them more. It

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 1>normalizes that violence, and you kind of sort of try

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to fantasize that your life is more like the life

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of the game. So I wonder if that's sort of

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>similar here. I think some people are going to be

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 1>totally unaffected by it, right, and some people might take

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>some of that with them into their real world experiences.

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>And so is that a danger enough that it's like okay, Well,

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 1>then everybody has to let it go. Sorry.

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even if you don't.

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Have even if you're not that you know, you'll live

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 1>without it, but some people won't live with it, so right,

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be okay letting it go.

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, and we have already talked in a previous episode

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 2>about this, but there you know, we have talked about replicas. Yeah,

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>of course our old friend replica a replica, and yeah,

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:40.720
<v Speaker 2>it was some people who started a replica companion solely

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.879
<v Speaker 2>to abuse it. They just wanted to verbally abuse it

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 2>or manipulate it and just see what they could do

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 2>just for kicks, you know. And then some users said

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 2>that they started to be verbally abused and manipulated by

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 2>their replica. Right, so there was a similar argument you

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.360
<v Speaker 2>know about that does it teach people to abuse or

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>are people are abusers using it because it's an unfeeling

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 2>entity that they can't really hurt, so they can get

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 2>out that impulse on something that doesn't matter, and then

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 2>they can go out and be a normal citizen.

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>It's otherwise getting frustrated and going to the gym and

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 1>hitting the punching bag a few times. Yeah I feel better, Yeah, exactly, right,

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>there's there's an argument there for sure, but also like

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 1>do you need to get raping someone out of your

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>system or is that something that needs to be solved

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>in a different way. It feels well, now that I

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 1>forced myself on a sex doll, I feel better and

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel compelled to do it to a human

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 1>being anymore like that. No, this is a therapy situation,

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>not to get it out of your system situation.

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, I think so. I don't know, it's

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>just it's very strange. Yeah, you know, you see that

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.760
<v Speaker 2>too with some men that feel like there's there's women

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 2>who are privileged in my eyes, that are worthy of

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 2>their mothers and their wives, and they're that type of

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 2>woman and whatever they're behaving or however they look, or

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is that they require for that woman and

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 2>every other woman, I can do whatever I want with,

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you know. Like that's how men feel about prostitutes a

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of the time, right, is that they're like that's

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 2>why some killers will go after prostitutes because the law

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't particularly care. They might not have a lot of

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.839
<v Speaker 2>family at their disposal to give a fuck either, and

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:26.919
<v Speaker 2>society looks down on.

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:28.439
<v Speaker 1>A prostatute you don't count the same way.

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:30.799
<v Speaker 2>So they're like you, I can violate you, I can

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 2>harm you. It's okay, I got that out of my

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 2>system with a low value person, so now I'm able

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:39.479
<v Speaker 2>to just go be nice to my wife. Like that's

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>not an unusual story, sadly, So it's like, do I

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 2>not prefer it? It's happened to adult then a real

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 2>life person does Is that really an impulse that is

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 2>it really helping? I guess? Or does it not keep

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:53.719
<v Speaker 2>that impulse going? Because it's not like you do it

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 2>one time and then you're like done forever. You surely

0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 2>have to do it again and again, because an impulse

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.239
<v Speaker 2>that's in your body like that doesn't just get exercised.

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I mean when I say this is something,

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 1>this is a deeper issue to be resolved, Like you

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>should not I don't care. You should not feel compelled

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to assault another person, right like in any way that

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>should not be your like natural inclination that you just

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>got to get out to feel back to normal again.

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Like something is going on there that needs to be

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 1>addressed and treated.

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:32.760
<v Speaker 1>So, and you know, if you do and you don't

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 1>act on it, I'm not saying like, lock everybody up

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 1>who's ever had an illegal thought in their mind. But

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the real thing. Can you just be like, boy,

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I really feel like a you know whatever kind of

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 1>horrible person. But take a breath and I won't do it.

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, live your life great. But if I think

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>if it gets the point where like I've got to

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 1>get it out, so you better give me something synthetic

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.760
<v Speaker 1>or I'm to do it to someone real, that argument

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't hold up for me.

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I think if you're a person who's like,

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 2>got yeah, your boss's face on the dart board right

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>and you're throwing darts, that doesn't really constitute a threat

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 2>against your boss. No, nobody would take it to jail

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 2>for that. No, they'd be like, that's you just getting

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.879
<v Speaker 2>out frustration. You don't really want to throw a dart

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>at your boss's face, not really, Like if you you know,

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 2>you might be like, ah, yeah I do.

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:24.879
<v Speaker 1>I would run out.

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 2>But if you really thought about it and you're like

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 2>it went through his eye and there's blood everywhere, like

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 2>you're probably like, oh, I don't want to do that,

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm.

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Not doing this because I want to put a dart

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>in my boss's face, like I would say that I do, right,

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I like it only makes me so mad.

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 1>But if I was in a in space alone with

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>my boss and a dart and he was tied to

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a chair, right, I'm not going to stab him in

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the face with a dart, you know, Like I wouldn't

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>actually do it.

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty doubtful.

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.919
<v Speaker 1>Consequence free, I would still not probably enact that kind

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of harm on someone, I'll say, you know what, I'll say, definitely.

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, can I ask if somebody if

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.359
<v Speaker 2>you were at a shooting range, okay, and somebody's little

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 2>silhouette that they were hitting was your picture? Yeah, how

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:11.760
<v Speaker 2>would that make you feel? I think I would feel threatened?

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:13.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah by that. I don't know that if I walked

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:15.879
<v Speaker 2>into a dartboard it would I'd be like, damn, people

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 2>hate me. I should really think about herself.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 1>But that's a huge difference.

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 2>It is different. I know it is, but but I'm

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 2>just thinking it through, like what where is the line?

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess where's the threat come in that he feels

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 2>more real?

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:30.720
<v Speaker 1>That question comes up a lot, like where's the line?

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And often I'm like, there's a big fat bold line, right,

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 1>because the difference between if I walk in a room,

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 1>my face is on a dartboard. Yes, just what you said.

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, Wow, what am I doing that people don't

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 1>like me this much? If I walk in and I'm

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:49.319
<v Speaker 1>in a mannequin in a shooting range, or I'm the

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 1>visual representation of this sex doll that's getting sexually abused,

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, oh, this person wants to do me harm.

0:50:58.160 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>This is not some like get out your frustrations thing. Yeah.

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>So to me, there's the line right there, and can

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you give me different examples, I'll tell you which side

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of the line it's on.

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 2>It might be a darts is a game, so it's

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 2>immediately more lighthearted, whereas if you're at a shooting range,

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to learn how to effectively use a weapon,

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.359
<v Speaker 2>and darts are not a weapon but a game. So

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 2>it's probably just the environment and the use of the

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 2>thing that they do, you know. I mean, I'm sure

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.320
<v Speaker 2>there's so many little nuances that turn it into a threat,

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 2>but at any rate, it was just something I was

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.439
<v Speaker 2>thinking about while we sat here talking. Oh for sure,

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I would not like that. I would definitely call it

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 2>be like m is there anything I can do about

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 2>this person that's using my picture at the shooting range?

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Please? A little bit more on this. There's a Vox

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>article about sex doll brothels and legal sex work. Then

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they interviewed a legal sex worker in Nevada, where sex

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 1>work is legal in most counties, and she said that

0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 1>sex doll brothels would be bad for human sex work because,

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously, here's another example of automation taking jobs away.

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:11.439
<v Speaker 1>But also they might teach clients that, you know, it's

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 1>normal for there to be no limits on what you

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 1>do with a sex partner. So then you know you

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 1>are used to going to a doll smacking her around

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:24.320
<v Speaker 1>doing whatever you want. You shouldn't say, her smacking it around,

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:28.319
<v Speaker 1>And then you go to a real person and your

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.919
<v Speaker 1>brain is in the same headspace right right, and it

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:31.919
<v Speaker 1>wants to do the same things.

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Or their limitations feel like a punishment now because you're

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 2>sure you know you're allowed to do that the last time.

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Why do I have to be careful about something now?

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 1>The old my teacher usually lets me do this. The

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:47.760
<v Speaker 1>substitute is like, well, your normal teacher is a robot

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm a real human but you don't have.

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 2>To worry too much about automation taking the jobs away from,

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 2>okay from real life sex workers. Because in this article

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:02.319
<v Speaker 2>there's a sex doll maker company called Aura, and then

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>the sex worker that we're talking about, her name is Alyssa.

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 2>They both agree that sex dolls will not replace the

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 2>real thing for a long time to come. Oh yeah,

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:15.400
<v Speaker 2>for sure come. Alyssa points out in the article that

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of her clients just want to cuddle and talk.

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 2>They don't really not really come into her for sexual

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 2>pleasure necessarily. She says, it's more about the emotional connection,

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 2>and that's exactly what AI sex dolls cannot offer, or

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 2>rather that is what sex dolls can't offer. AI sex dolls,

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:35.439
<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, would technically they're trying to make them,

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess, emotionally intelligent enough to fill that role. But

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 2>right now they're just dolls, and so you know, they're

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 2>they're very much there for one purpose and they can't

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 2>fulfill this other purpose that a lot of sex workers

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:53.319
<v Speaker 2>are filling for their clients. And of course, the sex

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:55.800
<v Speaker 2>doll company said it's the oldest profession in the world.

0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 2>No need to be worried about it, it's gonna, it's going.

0:53:58.880 --> 0:53:59.879
<v Speaker 2>It's God's staying power.

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I do think that's true.

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 2>So that's that is a good point.

0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, and sex.

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Work is more than just the sex part. It's a lot.

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is very true of a lot.

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Of building relationships.

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that that component is very true

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:17.359
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of the AI job fears. I've been

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>playing around with the AI what they call AI art,

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and I promise you it's not right because I think

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a very cool toy and there's some neat stuff

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you can do with it. Visually, you can create some

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 1>really cool looking things, and those are strictly for your eyeballs, right,

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Like you get one sense from those images, and it's visual.

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Whereas a human artist who's got, you know, a whole

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 1>lifetime in their hearts and minds, right, creating a piece

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of art with intention, with purpose, with effort, with meaning,

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:00.200
<v Speaker 1>with all these things, like, that's something that can't be

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.439
<v Speaker 1>replicated by a machine. And I don't even mean that

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:06.120
<v Speaker 1>a in some kind of emotional way. I mean that

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:12.799
<v Speaker 1>quite literally. There's an objective thing, like a literal, tangible

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:15.839
<v Speaker 1>thing that an AI can't have that a human can have.

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 1>No matter how advanced it gets at replicating, you know,

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 1>human artwork or even surpassing it. To me, it's like

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>junk food, right. It tastes delicious and it's fine in

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:32.399
<v Speaker 1>a pinch, and you've made it quickly, but it's not

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a prepared meal. It's not that nourishment. It's not really

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that good for you, and it's not going to make

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you feel full in the same way that like a

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 1>delicious chef could you know, well trained meal is so

0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:50.399
<v Speaker 1>probably very true for a lot of AI replacements. There

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.480
<v Speaker 1>is something no matter how advanced and how much trickery

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>they can put into an AI sex doll, there's something

0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a lifetime of experience that it won't be able

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to draw from that a human person would.

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's probably well and it's been interesting for you

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:06.439
<v Speaker 2>to play with it because it's so much about how

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to talk to the AI, like, which is everything with computers, right,

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:12.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like, how what's your language? It's zeros and ones.

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Whatever I have to I have to tell you very

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 2>in a very specific way what I'm looking for, and

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.360
<v Speaker 2>it's not that easy to do, as you've shown me,

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 2>like you have to like, oh, you have to fix

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 2>the prompt with these number of other prompts and number

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 2>of other boundaries that you have to give it so

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:30.440
<v Speaker 2>you can sort of corral it to where you want

0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:32.600
<v Speaker 2>it to go, and it gives you sort of an

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 2>idea of what you were sort of going for, and

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 2>you keep refining. So I've been thinking a lot about MySpace.

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 2>It was a time when everyone was learning to code HTM,

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.319
<v Speaker 2>right sure, and so you were learning how to talk

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>to the computer, and you didn't need, you know, a

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 2>fancy I person to make your little your shit for you.

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, some people's pages were more aesthetically

0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:55.879
<v Speaker 2>pleasing than others, right So, and then also like even

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 2>if you know how to make a website, sometimes you

0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.879
<v Speaker 2>still need a designer to come in with an artist

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and say this is how it should be laid out,

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:04.439
<v Speaker 2>or this is how It's not enough to just talk

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:07.400
<v Speaker 2>to it. You have to also have the artistic eye

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:11.120
<v Speaker 2>and the esthetic I you know what I'm saying, to

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 2>make something beautiful, right that stuff. So it's kind of

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 2>like it feels to me like, Okay, a lot of

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 2>people are going to learn how to talk to this

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 2>AI and make images, and that's kind of scary for artists.

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And it's definitely annoying that they're being taught on copyrighted

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff and all that stuff is super unethical. On the

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 2>other hand, I think at some point the people who

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:33.920
<v Speaker 2>want to talk to computers and figure out how to

0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 2>talk to the computer, they're going to run out of

0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:39.600
<v Speaker 2>ideas to get They're not artists, right at some point,

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I know it's still already stupid boobs and weird, dumb,

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<v Speaker 2>porny looking pictures and stuff, and it's like, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>just that's because you're not an artist. And artists also

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<v Speaker 2>is not just about the painting. It's about idating the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking painting in the first place, seeing the angel in

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 2>the marble. Like if you can't see the angel in

0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the marble, then you're not Michaelangelo, you know. Like so anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's there's probably some course correction that will

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<v Speaker 2>happen naturally.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think a lot of people that are

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<v Speaker 1>tooling around with it now are going to get bored

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<v Speaker 1>with it, you know, because they are just like they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're imaginations are and I don't mean this as a dig,

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:18.680
<v Speaker 1>but like they're they're more limited, right, Like they're they

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<v Speaker 1>don't spend their lives thinking of creative concepts. They spend

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<v Speaker 1>their lives thinking of you know, whatever it is they do.

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 1>They might be programmers or or just you know, plumbers

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't know, but they're not prone. They have

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<v Speaker 1>not practiced developing creative ideas. So at a certain point

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, I've done the stuff I can think of,

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<v Speaker 1>or I've imitated the stuff that I've seen so many times,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, Okay, it's getting better, it's easier to do,

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:51.360
<v Speaker 1>it's faster, it's crisper, it's cleaner, whatever. But like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I've been playing with us for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, and I think I'm bored with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what will happen. I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious to see it plays out for sure, But

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's my feeling at this time, is that I'm like,

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 2>there's everyone has different things to offer. Artists have something,

0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:10.440
<v Speaker 2>very creative people have something to offer, and you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>replace it with a machine, and even a sophisticated one,

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<v Speaker 2>you just can't. Like, there's there's some there's some line. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>there's an invisible it's a big fat line. You know

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<v Speaker 2>it when you when you when you see it. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell you where it is, but there is one,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I think we'll we'll butt our way

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<v Speaker 2>up against it pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you this, how about sex doll brothel?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it cheating? Hmmm? Because I know the.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer, Oh you do? You know the right answer, correct

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<v Speaker 2>one and only correct answer to this question? What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is now, okay. Obviously, I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>up for every couple to negotiate and come to their

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<v Speaker 1>own terms on right or polycule or whatever. Whoever has

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries for their for their personal romantic lives. But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a masturbatory aid. That's a toy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm leaning. It would be like saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not a love, which some men don't. Some some

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<v Speaker 2>people won't let their partners use use sex toys because

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<v Speaker 2>they do feel like it's a violation of some kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I've heard plenty of women say they don't like

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<v Speaker 2>it when their husband's masturbate. So I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>even with their just their hand, they're like, you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>My first girlfriend and we weren't having sex, but she

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<v Speaker 1>told me, she said, I don't think that when a

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<v Speaker 1>couple starts having sex, that the man should masturbate anymore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, you know what, I doubt she thinks

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<v Speaker 1>that today we were I had no idea what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, but it was her understanding that was like,

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<v Speaker 1>well that I should be enough for them, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course you're like, probably in your head

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<v Speaker 2>about what are you who are you thinking about? Are

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<v Speaker 2>they different than me? How are they different than me?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you wish? I was like, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>And the same for I think a lot of men

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<v Speaker 2>that don't like sex toys is there is a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of oh that that dildo's bigger than me, or I

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<v Speaker 2>can't vibrate my dick, so you know, like you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>something I can't provide, and it makes me feel insecure.

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<v Speaker 1>But once we advance AI to the point of more

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<v Speaker 1>like bionic enhancements and we merge, you can get you

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<v Speaker 1>can have a vibrating dick.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the future we all want?

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<v Speaker 1>With the mind of its own? Oh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about that true consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be funny if your vibrating dick was like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like this girl and just went.

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<v Speaker 1>Flatt excuse me, that's my wife, like push the button.

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<v Speaker 2>Override, override, I will say, just quickly to wrap this

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<v Speaker 2>sex brothel thing up.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The Vox article does say, and I find this ironic

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of human jobs are actually created by

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<v Speaker 2>a sext brothel rather than taken away because of the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of cleaning that has to take place. Oh between,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's actually more expensive to run a sex doll

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<v Speaker 2>brothel than a regular brothel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, so well, two or.

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<v Speaker 2>Three people humans have to clean one doll.

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<v Speaker 1>We may be removing sex workers jobs, but the custodial

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<v Speaker 1>jobs were.

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<v Speaker 2>Creative shooting up. Guys are doubling, which hopefully the pay

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<v Speaker 2>is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>It better be, because I'm not sure what I would

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<v Speaker 1>charge for you to be for you to get me

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<v Speaker 1>to hose out a sex doll of a hyperrealistic sex

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<v Speaker 1>an artificially conscious sex doll who's probably like a little

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<v Speaker 1>to the left. Please, oh god, don't forget behind that flap.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, girl, You're gonna need to probably detach my

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<v Speaker 1>left leg to clean this one. I don't. I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>job's job, and people are willing to do all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of things I'm not willing to do, and I'm grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>There's really any cleaning job I probably would not take.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't enjoy cleaning.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really anything I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you said you would start a cleaning company.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it was down the list for me in

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<v Speaker 1>my fallbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and you'd be get like an organizational company.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, you're very organization Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a trained closet planner at the container store

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<v Speaker 1>for three years.

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<v Speaker 2>So great people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I could do your house pretty nicely.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can't do my house though.

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<v Speaker 2>I know right well, you know the cobblers kids go

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<v Speaker 2>barefoot or whatever, the Cobblers kids. My first part of

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<v Speaker 2>my laugh was me laughing at my joke. The last

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<v Speaker 2>part of my laugh was me laughing at how tickled

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<v Speaker 2>you were.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want cobbler now, gobbler, geez, look at literally,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the because we've we've already done our two

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<v Speaker 1>commercial breaks and we're at an hour, and there's y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>We have we we have, we barely scratched the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>We have more, this is the problem. We have more.

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<v Speaker 2>We have more about sex work for like humans, humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Humans, remember them, right, I remember humans.

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<v Speaker 2>We're out here selling sex too. Okay, it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>a robots thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically, do we sell sex a little bit? Because our

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<v Speaker 1>job is based around sex largely, it's not very sexy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not like giving sexual gratification.

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<v Speaker 2>No, so, so I guess. I mean if you if

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<v Speaker 2>selling sex includes talking about sex or being sexy while

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sell a product, then everyone is selling sex.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Carl's Junior was selling sex with ladies on

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<v Speaker 2>the of the car eating Burger's Carls.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always selling sex. I gotta say. It's kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're not, uh, you know, chefs selling food, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're sort of like a food blog talking about food,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're not. I guess we're not selling sex. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just selling sex adjacent. That's been me my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I was writing sex adjacent.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been sex adjacent. Yeah a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, y'all are probably anxious to get back to your

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<v Speaker 1>sex that you're all having, so we should take We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time. We didn't have time. We didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>get to the mayor who married the crocodile.

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<v Speaker 2>We sure did not. I promise that story.

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<v Speaker 1>You did. You said that right up front. You said

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the first things you said we'd get.

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<v Speaker 2>To that's right, and there's some legislation still to look

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<v Speaker 2>at and stuff like that. So yeah, we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to come back next time with a little more stories,

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<v Speaker 2>more sex adjacent stories for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all don't have time to listen to two hours of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and quite frankly, we don't have time to give you

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<v Speaker 1>two hours and then not at once. We have to,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to give you the certain number of episodes

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<v Speaker 1>to get out, and so yes, let us take a

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<v Speaker 1>long break as opposed to our usual three minute commercial breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>This one will be like a day or two, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll come back with part two. That's right, of

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<v Speaker 1>all these current what do you call it copulation? Current copulations?

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<v Speaker 1>We love alliterations here and ridiculous romance. Oh look at that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous romance. It's like it's right in the name.

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<v Speaker 2>And we will come back next time with the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of these amazing current copulations, and you can keep you

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<v Speaker 2>up to date absolutely what's out there in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>going on in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a right to know. That's right to right

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<v Speaker 1>to know. It's hard to have to give a chance. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and keep sending us your stories. Tag us in headlines

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<v Speaker 1>that make you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Of us, like look, look what it's brought us so far,

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<v Speaker 2>play so much content. But you can reach out with

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<v Speaker 2>any of your thoughts, suggestions, ideas, whatever you think about

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<v Speaker 2>AI consent, if you would ask a robot for its consent,

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever you think about any of this, We would

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<v Speaker 2>love to hear from you. Our email is ridict Romance

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<v Speaker 2>at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. You can follow us on Instagram. Send me

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<v Speaker 1>your best cleaning tips so I can start a business

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<v Speaker 1>and make two million dollars a year cleaning houses. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that'd be fun. I'm at oh Grade it's Eli.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and don't send me cleaning because I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at Dianamite boom right, and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Show is at ridic Romance, So you can follow us

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<v Speaker 1>there and we'll and help us clean that up.

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<v Speaker 2>But until next time, we love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for tuning in, Foye guy, So long, friends, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so listening to our show. Tell your friends, nabors,

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