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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric Turris,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Busy, busy, busy time of year. Uh, a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff to get into tonight. J mart We got, uh,

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Speaker 2: obviously a game seven on Sunday. Caitlin Clark Versus Angelies,

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Speaker 2: NFL schedule release, Caleb Williams, Brock Purty, The list goes

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Speaker 2: on and on. What is going on, my friend, how

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Speaker 2: are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's been a busy week and it's been a wild,

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Speaker 1: busy day for me, but a good one. Just ready

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Speaker 1: to sit down and this is weird, but sit down

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Speaker 1: and relax for a few minutes and talk sports. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that I you know, I bring that

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Speaker 2: out of you, nice and relaxed, and yeah, let's dive in.

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Speaker 2: So I'll say this, you know, obviously, you know, you

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Speaker 2: and I have had the privilege of coming on after

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Speaker 2: so many big NBA Playoffs games here over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: I was disappointed. I misread the schedule.

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Speaker 2: I thought we had a game seven today and uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It was sometime yesterday that I realized that Game seven,

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Speaker 2: Denver versus Oklahoma City will not be until Sunday, three

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Speaker 2: thirty Eastern times. So I just kind of want to

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Speaker 2: lead the show by just talking about what will be

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Speaker 2: the biggest storyline going into tomorrow, coming out of tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: going into Monday morning.

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Speaker 3: And we can kind of take this wherever you want.

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Speaker 3: But Gay, we do have a Game seven.

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Speaker 2: Denver, of course, played a Game seven in the previous round,

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Speaker 2: Thunder hosting the Denver Nuggets three thirty Eastern time. Denver

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Speaker 2: survived with a one nineteen one oh seven win the

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Speaker 2: other night. To for say game seven. When I say

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Speaker 2: game seven, Oka see Denver versus the Thunder, what immediately

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Speaker 2: jumps out to you?

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Speaker 1: Well, Terror, because I'm a thunderfan and you know you've

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Speaker 1: got it in your building. But this has just been

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Speaker 1: one of those series and you just don't know on

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Speaker 1: any given night which one of these teams is gonna

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Speaker 1: show up. I will say, if Aaron Gordon is not

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent, that's a big loss for Denver in

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Speaker 1: this game. But you can't count out somebody like Jokic.

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Speaker 1: He certainly had some on and off games I think

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Speaker 1: he's been extremely tired this postseason, and you've seen that

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Speaker 1: come up in a few games. But then he comes

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Speaker 1: out and he has some just magnificent stuff even when

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Speaker 1: you feel like he's out of gas. So that's a

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Speaker 1: team that knows how to win a game seven. They've

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Speaker 1: done it already once this postseason. The question is are

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Speaker 1: the Thunder up for this challenge. I think that they are.

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Speaker 1: I do not expect this to be a game that

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Speaker 1: people will be turning off in the third quarter. I

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Speaker 1: do not expect this to be a game where one

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Speaker 1: team blows the other one out. I just don't. I

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Speaker 1: think both of them are going to show up. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna see quit out of either one

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Speaker 1: of these teams. And I don't think any lead is

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Speaker 1: safe anyway. So if it does get to twenty, stick

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Speaker 1: around either way. I'm gonna go with my guy. But

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Speaker 1: it is, it's a perfect game seven if you don't

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Speaker 1: gonna be a real tough Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't have a dog in the fight, but

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Speaker 2: I will say I think you mentioned probably the most

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you know, nobody's gonna say anything too definitive today,

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Speaker 2: but he is a game time decision, of course, Jamal

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Speaker 2: great game six, but but you know, going through some

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Speaker 2: some illness stuff. Let's start with okay seed because obviously,

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Speaker 2: look number one seed, and I think, what's interesting. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, I don't I don't want

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Speaker 2: to do like the crazy hot takes before we even

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Speaker 2: have a result. But it is a conversation worth having.

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Speaker 2: Is that, on the one hand, they are the youngest

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Speaker 2: average starting age of about like twenty four years old

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Speaker 2: and change. But this is obviously second straight year where

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Speaker 2: they've been very highly seeded coming into the playoffs. Last

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Speaker 2: they are playing Denver and are in a game seven.

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Speaker 2: I know it's always kind of hard to, you know,

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Speaker 3: But what do you think the conversation if they win?

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Speaker 2: You know, they're supposed to win Game seven at home,

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Speaker 2: number one seed, whatever, if they were to lose this game, though,

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Speaker 2: do you think in your thunderfans, so this is kind

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Speaker 2: of why I wanted to bring this up. Do you

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Speaker 2: think it's one of those where you know, young team

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think you can make a change here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is just the next step

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Speaker 1: I think that that would be really rash, and I

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Speaker 1: you're seeing also a very veteran team that's already won

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Speaker 1: a championship, that has one of the greatest players we've

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Speaker 1: great clutch playoff performer in Jamal Murray. I think the

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Speaker 1: bigger story, let's say you're right, let's let's say in

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Speaker 1: this hypothetical Denver wins. I think the more interesting thing

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Speaker 1: is Denver got it right with the moves that they made.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you that next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you have to put it there now.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they could have still won, but it just seemed

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Speaker 1: I think they thought they didn't have a chance with them,

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Speaker 1: Let's say they end up in the Western Conference Finals,

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Speaker 1: considering they let their head coach and their general manager

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and that was actually gonna be My next

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Speaker 2: question is, you know, there's obviously the you know, if

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Speaker 2: there's going to be questions whether any moves are actually

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Speaker 2: just said it. I'm not like saying this as it's

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Speaker 2: decisions that were made late in the season were justified.

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Speaker 3: Now I'll say this.

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Speaker 2: You know, listen, we all are just kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: by the time Mike Malone was fired that it felt

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Speaker 2: like a change was gonna be made in the offseason anyway,

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Speaker 2: And and and they just wanted to do it because,

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Speaker 2: as you said, it just got so toxic in the

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Speaker 2: I guess you know this isn't the sexiest sports talk

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Speaker 2: radio topic, but you know, this obviously would have, in

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Speaker 2: theory been one of the most coveted jobs I think

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Speaker 2: we've seen in recent memory, with an envy, you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of young talent around him, and Jamal Murray

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're set up really well in

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Speaker 2: the bigger picture. Do you have any strong opinions on

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Speaker 2: like I kind of feel like if you're Denver and

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they will do, I don't know

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Speaker 3: But young guy we didn't know much about.

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Speaker 2: I think he's done a pretty good job all things considered,

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Speaker 2: And if he if they win, I think he keeps

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. I mean, unless there is something

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Speaker 1: we don't know about how the team feels about him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what you wanted in this situation. It's like, can

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Speaker 1: So could he just sort of calm things down, be

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Speaker 1: if this were a different situation and Mike Malone's available

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Speaker 1: they're the ones that fire I know, I know, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know where the name is. I don't know

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Speaker 1: better than the guy that you know stayed with it

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I would tend to thank Adelman. If he

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Speaker 1: thinking about right now that's just a perfect fit, or

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Speaker 2: Any other quick thoughts on this game again, Game seven,

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Speaker 2: three point thirty Eastern on Sunday. I think the only

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Speaker 2: thing that really stands out to me is again it's

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Speaker 2: it's horror and we'll save our predictions for the end

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Speaker 3: We're on til two am Eastern.

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Speaker 2: But I think not having Aaron Gordon, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I think a couple of things with Aaron Gordon is

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Speaker 2: a hamstring is something. I mean, I'm sure in theory

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Speaker 2: you can play, but when you're the defensive stopper against

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have anything major. Again, one take

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Speaker 2: It's his bad games are like the top two percent

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Speaker 2: the Knicks Celtics series. Knicks first Eastern Conference Finals since

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Speaker 2: little bit of pseudo late breaking news here. So obviously

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Speaker 2: Monday was the NBA Draft lottery, and of course that no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: Gonna need for the entire first segment of our three.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you being prepared and ready to go.

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Speaker 2: But what was an interesting side product of the NBA draft,

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Speaker 3: But that's for another hour. We'll save that conversation.

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Speaker 2: Was that that morning we found out that Janis Antennakupo,

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Speaker 2: It got kind of a vague report, but essentially open

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Speaker 2: You know, like, like, I think a lot of these

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Speaker 2: over sold, and so I only bring it up because

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Speaker 2: with the honest you know, listen, I would love for

437
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Speaker 2: it to be a perfect world where guys stay with

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Speaker 2: the team, with this team that drafted him their whole career,

439
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Speaker 2: it does feel like that situation has seemingly run its course.

440
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Speaker 2: Now how much of it is Giannis's fault, you know,

441
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Speaker 2: he's he's demanded some things or or or you know,

442
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Speaker 2: push for some things to say the least that that

443
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 2: haven't worked out. Well, I don't know, but I think

444
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Speaker 2: that's just my thing with the Bucks is that I

445
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Speaker 2: just watch him and it just feels like it's kind

446
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Speaker 2: of run its course, and it doesn't really feel like

447
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Speaker 2: there's an easy fix to to to to what's going on,

448
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Speaker 2: you know, where you look at some of these other

449
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Speaker 2: teams that that feel like, you know, even like the

450
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Speaker 2: Nuggets right, like all the pieces are there the for

451
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Speaker 2: whatever reason, Mike Malone just wasn't pushing the right buttons.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Bucks have the right coach. That

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Speaker 2: goes without saying I think most would agree, But I

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Speaker 2: don't even think Giannis really has much in terms of

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Speaker 2: a supporting cast around him that makes me confident that

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Speaker 2: they'll figure things out. So I'm not surprised that he's

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Speaker 2: open to this possibility.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The report this evening is that they will meet this

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Speaker 2: week but it just kind of feels like that whole

461
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Speaker 2: situation has run its course. I mean, I you know, again,

462
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Speaker 2: I wish he could spend his whole career there. Love

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Speaker 2: the you know, love the story of him coming to Milwaukee,

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Speaker 2: we all know it, but it just kind of feels

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Speaker 2: like it's running its course at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I don't think that there.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like it's definitely peaked. They have kind

468
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Speaker 1: of plateaued off, but now they just seem to be

469
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Speaker 1: on the downslid, like you move on from Middleton. And

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Speaker 1: I get that because Middleton, again, he was having health

471
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Speaker 1: issues and I always felt like he was more a

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Speaker 1: two and a half than a two at best. But

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Speaker 1: it just the Dame thing just hadn't worked. And the

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Speaker 1: doctor Rivers thing definitely hasn't worked. And if you're honest,

475
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Speaker 1: you're not getting younger. Do you realize he's been with

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Speaker 1: the Bucks for twelve years. That's longer than you think

477
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Speaker 1: his career has actually been, Like I don't, I don't

478
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Speaker 1: feel like he's been in the league for twelve years,

479
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Speaker 1: but he has time flies and so he wants to

480
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Speaker 1: go grab a couple more rings and if it's not

481
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Speaker 1: gonna be a Minnesota just because of just the things,

482
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Speaker 1: a couple of big moves, a couple of big swings

483
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Speaker 1: that haven't paid off. I feel like this will be

484
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Speaker 1: relatively easy in terms of I don't think there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a whole lot of hurt feelings here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he brought them. I mean, you know, they helped build

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Speaker 1: that business district up there, They won that championship, the

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Speaker 1: Bucks became relevant for the first time basically ever, He's

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Speaker 1: done everything that you could possibly want if you are

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee brass and things like that. I feel like they'll

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Speaker 1: try to do as right by him as possible if

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Speaker 1: that's the way it is. But ultimately it's business, so

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Speaker 1: they're going to take whatever the best offer is. But

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Speaker 1: I do think that if he goes, he won't stay

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Speaker 1: in the East. If there's a move, I think he

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Speaker 1: will go to the West, whether it's Houston or San Antonio.

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Speaker 1: He said he didn't want to go. He liked the

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Speaker 1: idea of going somewhere without a state income tax. So

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Speaker 1: Texas fits in a number of ways. And wouldn't you know,

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Speaker 1: the Spurs just happened to get the number two pick

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Speaker 1: in the NBA draft on Monday, just out of the blue.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of exactly what you would need if you

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Speaker 1: were Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, like it is worth noting,

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Speaker 2: the MAVs clearly have a very small window here with

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Speaker 2: the core that they have, and would obviously the number

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Speaker 2: one pick I think would be a pretty attractive true.

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Speaker 1: I mean it would, yeah, but I mean Cooper Flag's white,

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Speaker 1: so whoh yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I did see a sports commentator say

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Speaker 2: that for no other reason, that's why the Dallas Mavericks

512
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Speaker 2: have to draft him, not that he was National Player

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Speaker 2: of the Year.

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Speaker 1: That led Well, now, I will push back on that.

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Speaker 1: I think that some people took that and ran with

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Speaker 1: it too much. I listened to the audio. I went

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Speaker 1: and listened to the commentator in question, and he didn't

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Speaker 1: say it was just because of that. He said, when

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Speaker 1: you do that, plus this guy's a bad man, you

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Speaker 1: don't let that go. So I will give him credit

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Speaker 1: for saying he does recognize the guys really good at basketball.

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Speaker 1: Still a dumb thing to say, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna it wasn't just because of that.

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Speaker 1: It was just a focus of what he was talking about.

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Speaker 2: It was it certainly made headlines, headlines that we will

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Speaker 2: save for another show, not tonight. Fox Sports Radio air

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Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

528
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Speaker 2: will come back, pay off the teas from about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: Go Nicks in the Eastern Conference Finals, and there's a

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Speaker 2: lot to discuss that's next before we do the let's

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Speaker 2: get over the news desk, fresh off of vacation with

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Speaker 2: a tan Steve the Sager.

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Speaker 4: What's up, buddy, Not quite on the ladder, but thank

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Speaker 4: you very much. Good to be back on the show,

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Speaker 4: and hello gentlemen, and we'll get to baseball and a

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Speaker 4: lot of late night baseball still to talk about. But

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Speaker 4: first the NHL Playoffs. The second round series has ended

538
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Speaker 4: in overtime at Dallas Stars eliminate Winnipeg two to one.

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Speaker 4: The game winning goal came on the power play, so

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Speaker 4: the Stars take the series four games to two, and

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Speaker 4: Jets goalie Connor Hellibuck on the road this season postseason

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Speaker 4: I should say, went win listed oh and six. Dallas

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Speaker 4: will play Edmonton again in the West Finals that'll start Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: The Dallas Stars following a loss this postseason five and oh,

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Speaker 4: there is a Game seven on Sunday night, Florida at Toronto.

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Speaker 4: The winner goes to the East Finals, starting Tuesday against Carolina.

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Speaker 4: The NBA Second Round ends on Sunday with a Game

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Speaker 4: seven Denver at Oklahoma City, and Denver's Aaron Gordon is

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Speaker 4: questionable for Sunday with the strained hamstring. Journalism the favorite

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Speaker 4: won the Preakness coming from behind late and at the

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Speaker 4: PGA Championship in Charlotte, Scottie Scheffler is the leader by

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Speaker 4: three strokes after a third round sixty five now of

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Speaker 4: the late night Major League Baseball, the Colorado Rockies were

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Speaker 4: two and twenty one on the road. They have just

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Speaker 4: won in a comeback at Arizona fourteen to twelve, a

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Speaker 4: combined thirty four hits in this game. That means there's

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Speaker 4: just one game still going, and the Angels have just

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Speaker 4: retaken the lead at Dodger Stadium nine to seven over

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Speaker 4: La top of the seventh with some scoring off of

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Speaker 4: reliever Kirby Yates, who's just given up a three run homer.

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Speaker 4: Seattle won four to one at San Diego cal Rawley

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Speaker 4: his fifteenth home run of the season. San Francisco gets

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Speaker 4: a ten inning win against the A's one nothing on

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Speaker 4: a basis loaded walk, the loss to closer Mason Miller. Boston,

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Speaker 4: with a comeback on a solo homer bottom of the ninth,

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Speaker 4: beat Atlanta seven to six. Ralphael dever is the hero

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Speaker 4: that ends Boston's four game losing streak. Minnesota won its

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Speaker 4: thirteenth game in a row, seven to nothing at Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: The Twins had pitched thirty three straight scoreless innings. The

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Speaker 4: Mets beat the Yankees three to two today with a

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Speaker 4: run in the top of the ninth save to Edwin Diaz,

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Speaker 4: and Washington won ten to six at Baltimore after the

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Speaker 4: Orioles fired manager Brandon Hyde. The team has now lost

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Speaker 4: five in a row with a record of fifteen and

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Speaker 4: twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Disager. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Tours Jason

578
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Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Let's

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Speaker 2: get to the big NBA story from Friday night. J

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Speaker 2: mart nicks just a dominant, dominant, dominant victory in Madison

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Speaker 2: Square Garden against the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 3: First of all, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think there's a lot of fun basketball

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Speaker 2: conversations to be had about the Knicks. I genuinely enjoy them.

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Speaker 2: I saw some, you know, I think it was more

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Speaker 2: of an online thing. I don't think I saw like

587
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: media members pushback, but that Knicks fans were a little

588
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: too excited about a win that simply got them to

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Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals. Do you have a problem with

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Speaker 2: Knicks fans basically basically about to tear burn down Madison

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Speaker 2: Square Garden to the ground over a win that simply

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Speaker 2: got them to the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't, because they haven't been there in so long.

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Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. You had it in

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Speaker 1: the home building, got it done with that group, and

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Speaker 1: you beat that team that you don't like. The only

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00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 1: thing that it's always gonna have that like kind of

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Speaker 1: do you really celebrate it when Jason Tatum's not even playing?

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Speaker 1: That might be the only thing I would say. But

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Speaker 1: the Knicks, the way they played even before Tatum got

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Speaker 1: hurt in this series, the way they have just kind

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Speaker 1: of coalesced, and I don't really have that much of

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Speaker 1: a problem with it. I don't because it's just the

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Speaker 1: next step in this It's we see a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams that show up and then the next year they're

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Speaker 1: not able to duplicate the feet and they've actually exceeded it.

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Speaker 1: They've actually gotten one more round. And now we're going

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Speaker 1: to get a rematch of that great series from last year,

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Speaker 1: that next Pacer series, and I think I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a great Eastern Conference Finals. I got a

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Speaker 1: crazy prediction about it. I'll give you a point, but no,

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Speaker 1: I just think those fans have been waiting for a

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Speaker 1: long time. I will tell you one Knicks fan that

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Speaker 1: irritated the stuffing out of.

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Speaker 3: Me, Arty Spanning that game, Artie Spander. It's got to

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Speaker 3: be span No. Oh, oh, the same guy is wearing.

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Speaker 1: He was wearing a New York Giants letter jacket in

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Speaker 1: the crowd with sunglasses that vaunted giant Russell Wilson. I

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Speaker 1: saw him show up on camera and I was just like, dude,

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Speaker 1: you can't be serious. I immediately thought, like, I loved

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Speaker 1: Russell Russell in college. You know, I went to NC

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Speaker 1: State for a few years, so obviously I followed him.

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Speaker 1: I liked what he was about. He went to Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: like what he was about when he got Seattle. Kind

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Speaker 1: of liked what he was about. Then he goes to Denver,

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Speaker 1: my football team. I'm trying to buy his jersey. They

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Speaker 1: don't have the right one. I make comments about it

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Speaker 1: on the air. I'm just like so frustrated that they

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Speaker 1: don't have the stitched jersey that I want for us,

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Speaker 1: that I could put in my collection. And now I'm

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Speaker 1: so thankful they never made one because I didn't buy it,

632
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Speaker 1: because it just keeps on going downhill. It's just like, dude,

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Speaker 1: don't put on the Giant's letterman jacket. You've never suited

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Speaker 1: up for them before. Like, I don't even know if

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00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: you're ever gonna suit up for them now. I have

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00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: no idea what's gonna happen. But it's just the phone.

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00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: It's the example of like doing like calisthenics any airplane

638
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Speaker 1: and all those stories that we heard. It's like everything

639
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: is so phony. It feels like it's like, dude, you're

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Speaker 1: not a Giant. You can go to the Knicks game,

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Speaker 1: but dressed like a human being. This is not saved

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Speaker 1: by the bell, Like, this is not base side versus Valley.

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00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: That was the most ridiculous thing. Who even wears letter

644
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: jackets anymore? My man's in a Giants, letterman jacket, like

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00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: he's been in New York his entire life. And I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, Russ, Russ, Russ, what is going through your brain? Pal?

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Speaker 2: That was a plot twist. I wasn't ready for the

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, the Russell Wilson basting, but I will say

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Speaker 2: I did notice that as well, and uh, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know with Russ, all I'll say is, you know I

651
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Speaker 2: I for years tried to defend him. I felt like, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: like at some point, you know, I said, for years,

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Speaker 2: like the high knees thing everybody freaked out about, but

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, if it was Joe Burrow, it

655
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Speaker 2: would be the coolest thing on the Internet, and everybody

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Speaker 2: would be talking about, Oh Joe Burrow, he's so cool

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Speaker 2: with the hind But I will say, when.

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Speaker 3: You're on team what is it four? Team five?

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Speaker 2: Now Team four, and it's like, you know, we talked,

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Speaker 2: we talked about we'd have to do a Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: thing here, but like there's now two many any examples

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Speaker 2: of too many you know, weird endings teammates bashing him

663
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Speaker 2: on the way out where where Yeah, it's pretty hard

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Speaker 2: to defend that guy. And I think at some point

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Speaker 2: it becomes obvious that what he was a you know,

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Speaker 2: what everyone has said about him over the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years has been true. Fox Sports Radio Aertors Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the ty Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 3: We will revisit Nicks.

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Speaker 2: Versus Pacers later in the show because I want to

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Speaker 2: hear what you got to say, j mart But when

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Speaker 2: we come back, the big NBA sports media story of

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Speaker 2: the week, the return of the Goat MJ NBC. That's next.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio er

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Speaker 2: Tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: How about Mary Mack pulling the pull from before she

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Speaker 2: was born. Yeah, he's trying to step in and try

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Speaker 2: to take credit for Mary Max's hard work.

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Speaker 3: I see how it is playing on my computer right now. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be so real gen z moment. I've never

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Speaker 3: heard the song before. Wow, this was like the most

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Speaker 3: famous commercial probably literally of the nineties.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if I go quite that far,

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Speaker 1: but it's definitely into the state. It's definitely very well known.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be like Mike. It was a

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan commercial, Thank you producer, Bree, great work. What

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Speaker 2: would you say was more famous? Bow nos bo No's

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Speaker 2: is probably a little.

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Speaker 1: We just talking about sports commercials.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, I mean I'm not a sports commercials.

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, i'd probably say it's this, But I mean

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Speaker 1: what else you got to think about? Like the Budwiser fraud.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's good, that's good, that's good.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's there's still a lot. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of pretty the Energizer Bunny Keeps nineties

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Speaker 1: going like, yeah, there's been there's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: good ones. This is definitely iconic, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: I'd say in the sports side, it would definitely be

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Speaker 1: this one. And like the Charles Barkley role model commercial

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Speaker 1: from the I don't know that may have been the eighties,

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Speaker 1: the eighties, the early nineties where he says I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be a role model. Those are probably the

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Speaker 1: two sports ones. And then of course you had Dan

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Speaker 1: versus Dave yep, the Olympics stuff that didn't really pan

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Speaker 1: out particularly well, but yeah, be like Mike's definitely definitely

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Speaker 1: way up there. You also had the Milk ads. Those

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Speaker 1: are also iconic, Yes, so I could keep going. But no,

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Speaker 1: that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Nineties nostalgia. I mean, that's the theme of this segment

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Speaker 2: because Mack Jordan back in the game. It was announced

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Speaker 2: earlier this week he will be a contributor remember NBC

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Speaker 2: next next year, it'll be ESPN, ABC, NBC and Amazon

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Speaker 2: that have the NBA package. Turner and TNT are out.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll I'll just ask you Michael Jordan's signing

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Speaker 2: on as a contributor to NBC's coverage of the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of thoughts, I don't you know.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know. I just got a lot

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Speaker 3: of different thoughts.

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Speaker 2: But Michael Jordan, like I said, a little nineties nostalgia

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Speaker 2: with the with the intro music, and some nineties nostalgia

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Speaker 2: with the NBA on NBC next year. J Martin, what

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Speaker 2: do you take away from this piece of news?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's good news. It's really exciting. I just

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Speaker 1: want to know what it means. I think that using

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Speaker 1: the word contributor is so vague that it makes me

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Speaker 1: think if it was something massive, you would have told

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Speaker 1: me he's not gonna be in the booth. If he

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Speaker 1: was in the booth, we would have heard that if

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Speaker 1: he was going to be in like the analyst chair

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Speaker 1: on television, like inside the NBA, guys, I think we

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Speaker 1: would have heard that this is gonna be something else.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be like pre taped.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to sit down with

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Speaker 1: players and try to do interviews. I'm not exactly sure

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Speaker 1: what this is gonna be. I'm certainly all here for it,

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Speaker 1: but I have a feeling this is not going to

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Speaker 1: be as big a deal as some are thinking, because

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Speaker 1: anything that would have made this more exciting, I feel

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Speaker 1: like they would have told you. And so that means

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Speaker 1: one of two things. One it's not that big, or

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Speaker 1: two they don't have it fully decided because Michael hasn't

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Speaker 1: agreed to anything specific yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's actually my takeaway as well, is that.

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Speaker 2: Is that it doesn't feel like it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: major role like you almost you know, sometimes like I

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Speaker 2: can't think of a great example, but sometimes there'll be

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Speaker 2: like an old school broadcaster that's either out of the

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Speaker 2: game or phasing out of the game, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're bringing on Bob Costas is a contributor and it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of vague. We don't know what he's doing,

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Speaker 2: and it's not gonna be very much. I don't I'm

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Speaker 2: with you is that I'm intrigued, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: exactly what to make of it because I don't know

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Speaker 2: what he's gonna be doing.

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Speaker 3: And I'll just be honest, Jymart, I kind of I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad it's happening, but I feel like it could

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Speaker 2: lead to a little bit of disappointment.

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Speaker 1: Is I don't know, you better measure your expectations is

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Speaker 1: kind of my feeling going into it. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what would be phenomenal. It won't happen. But if he

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Speaker 1: did the Peyton Manning thing and you had Georgan doing

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Speaker 1: his version of Manning cast, that would be phenomenal. But

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Speaker 1: that's not what this is going to be. Like I've

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Speaker 1: been trying to figure out, like how I would describe

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Speaker 1: what I think this is, and it's like when I

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Speaker 1: hear a contributor, I think of like Rick Riley during

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Speaker 1: a golf major doing some kind of piece for like

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Speaker 1: five minutes where he's talking about something, and Rick Rawley

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Speaker 1: was always entertaining to listen to and things like that.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like it's going to be something specialized

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Speaker 1: and something very limited per broadcast that he's on. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be on there hours

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Speaker 1: and hours. He's gonna have some kind of commentary or

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Speaker 1: analysis and yeah, I'm all I want to hear what

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan has to say. I am super excited about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep my expectations in check because

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're setting yourself up for disappointment if

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Speaker 1: you think this is like him joining inside the NBA

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Speaker 1: or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna be in studio and you know,

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Speaker 2: to me, without knowing, my guess is it's some sort

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Speaker 2: of I would think maybe like an interview series where

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Speaker 2: you know, Celtic's Knicks Game one, Maybe he's maybe he's

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Speaker 2: the guy that gets Jalen Brunson for the like eight

786
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Speaker 2: minutes sit down, you know, But I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: in any sort of analyst role. Let me ask you

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Speaker 2: this really quick. Do you think it do you think

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Speaker 2: the timing? Do you think it's an NBC thing? Because

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Speaker 2: I think to me, it's more of a nostalgia NBC

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Speaker 2: thing because there have been people and I know we're

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Speaker 2: up against it.

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Speaker 3: So I'll try to be quick here that it's.

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Speaker 2: Somehow, some sort of Lebron is coming to the end

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Speaker 2: of his career, and you know, I think Lebron at

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Speaker 2: this point it's hard to make the goat argument.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it has anything to do.

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Speaker 2: With something Lebron related or are people just pulling stuff

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Speaker 2: out of there?

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fun, but no, not not particularly like

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Speaker 1: I think NBC and Michael Jordan have been close for

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Speaker 1: a very very long time. Ahmad Rashad's entire career was

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Speaker 1: built off of Mike Jordan. So NBC getting this back

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Speaker 1: this makes all the sense in the world that this

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Speaker 1: is where Jordan would step back in. So I would

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Speaker 1: love to think there's just some kind of rivalry here

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Speaker 1: where he wants to step in. For a timing standpoint,

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Speaker 1: I just think the timing only has to do with

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Speaker 1: the fact that NBC it's going to be doing the

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Speaker 1: NBA again and that's just always been where he's been

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Speaker 1: the most comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I will say I'll add exactly

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Speaker 2: what you said to lead the segment, is that if

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Speaker 2: it was some huge role. I think we would have

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Speaker 2: more clarification, but hey, it's a heck of a name.

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Speaker 2: It's certainly interesting. Now we get to see what Michael

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Speaker 2: Jordan does in the media. Fox Sports Radio Eron Tors

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back look at a busy couple days in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. We've all seen the Caleb Williams story, We've

822
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Speaker 2: all seen the Brock Purty extension. There's a lot to discuss,

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Speaker 2: plus maybe a little Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese.

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Speaker 3: That's all. Next.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody. Our two Turres Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: Busy night, busy week in sports. If you missed any

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Speaker 2: of our one talked a lot about what's going on

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Speaker 2: in the world of the Association. Denver OKC Game one

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Speaker 2: on Sunday afternoon, three p thirty Eastern kind of gave

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Speaker 2: us some quick previewing thoughts there.

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Speaker 3: We will give our official pick later on in the show.

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Speaker 2: Also, Jannis and the Bucks reportedly set to meet. According

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Speaker 2: to Chris Haynes, we discussed a little bit of that.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, Mjay returning to the booth,

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Speaker 2: the Knicks returning to the Eastern Conference Finals. If you

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Speaker 2: missed any of that, make sure to go back and

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Speaker 2: download the podcast. With that said, uh do want to

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Speaker 2: switch gears to some NFL. It was a busy week. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the schedule came out. We'll talk about that a little

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Speaker 2: bit later. Brock Purty gets paid. But the story that

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Speaker 2: I think caught everybody's attention is, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: something that had been out there, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: that we had this many concrete details. That is the

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Speaker 2: story of Caleb Williams, his father and they're push to

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Speaker 2: not get the Chicago Bears to draft him. Two years ago.

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Speaker 2: This was part of a book by Seth Wickersham. Some

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Speaker 2: stuff came out about it, but among the things that

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Speaker 2: we learned, Carl Williams, Caleb's dad said, quote, Chicago's the

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Speaker 2: place quarterbacks go to die again. The book is called

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Speaker 2: American Kings of Biography of the Quarterback, and there were

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Speaker 2: all sorts of little notes in there. Again, some of

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Speaker 2: which I think we knew, some of which I don't

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Speaker 2: think we knew. Basically, they try to figure out every

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Speaker 2: which way for Caleb Williams not to go to the Bears,

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Speaker 2: whether it was not being in the draft, playing in

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Speaker 2: the UFL. J Martin, you and I have joked for

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Speaker 2: years about, you know, the u trying to become a

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Speaker 2: relevant league that would certainly have made it that way,

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Speaker 2: kind of trying to figure out ways around the collective

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Speaker 2: bargaining agreement. So I could go on and on, but

863
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Speaker 2: by now everybody has seen the story or knows the

864
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: loose details.

865
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: What had been.

866
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: Reported is now essentially official that Caleb Williams and his

867
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: dad did pretty much everything they could to avoid being

868
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: a Chicago Bear in last ye's draft.

869
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: All right, So first off, Carl Williams is right, that

870
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: is where quarterbacks go to die. We can go ahead

871
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: and admit that before we go any further. Even guys

872
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: that were good before they got there go there and

873
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: they still end up not doing very much. Jay Cutler

874
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: comes to mind. All right, So past that, I'm gonna

875
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: take this from a different, different angle. Immediately, I am

876
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: not bothered by this in the least because I've seen

877
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: this before, and I've seen it work out before. Jim

878
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: Kelly famously did not want to go to Buffalo, had

879
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: no interest in it. It all hated the cold Weather was

880
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: upset when he was drafted, publicly, like on record after

881
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: he was drafted, did not like this at all. And

882
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: he's one of the most beloved figures in the history

883
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: of that city. And now he's just like, I'm so thankful,

884
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that you gave me a chance after

885
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: I said the kind of stuff that I said about

886
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: you after the fact. This becomes a perfect platform if

887
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams now because he is with the Bears, if

888
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson unlocks him, and I love what Ben Johnson

889
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 1: had to say about this too. Ben Johnson said, I'm

890
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: so excited we've got Caleb here. He's gonna be the

891
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: first four thousand yard passer in Paris history. That's a

892
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: great line. That is a great confident line. And there's

893
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: no reason for it not to say it. Because he

894
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: just did a whole lot in Detroit Wright with Jered Goff.

895
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: There's no reason to think that he's not going to

896
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: be able to unlock Caleb Williams. So what happened here is, yeah,

897
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: they were trying to manufacture the best situation for them,

898
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: and Chicago was a mess. Dude, it was a mess

899
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: last year. They kept the wrong coach, Everything about the

900
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: situation was bad. I don't blame him for not wanting

901
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: to go to Chicago. It's easy for us to say,

902
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, you just go where you're drafted. Yeah, well,

903
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: I mean he did, but did he want to go there?

904
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: Did Zion want to go to New Orleans? Course not?

905
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: And we see how that's worked out. So I'm just

906
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: the people that are like, somehow upset about this, I

907
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: think they need to back off. I think they need

908
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: to back down because I think they're wrong, and I

909
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: think this becomes a great story for redemption because even

910
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: if Chicago fans are now upset, if Caleb goes out

911
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: and balls out, not only is all going to be forgiven,

912
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: but Caleb's going to be able to say the right

913
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: stuff to their face after winning games, and it's going

914
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: to be fine. If he loses. They're gonna hate him

915
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: either way, so it's not gonna matter. But I just again,

916
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: as soon as I saw this, I immediately thought of

917
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: that Jim Kelly story and how well that worked out

918
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: for Buffalo and for Jim Kelly, and just became part

919
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: of this great storyline of his career, and I think

920
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: the exact same thing could potentially happen for Caleb Williams.

921
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: All Right, so I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna take

922
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: it in a little bit of a different direction. I

923
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: actually agree with you one hundred percent.

924
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: I think the story is interesting, but I don't think

925
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: it's interesting for the reasons people think. Okay, I'm gonna

926
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: give you a very random anecdote that I think you'll remember.

927
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: You might not, but whatever, do.

928
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: You remember when Kawhi Leonard was a free agent fresh

929
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: off that Toronto Raptors championship and I think what was

930
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 2: an uncle or something that was kind of doing the negotiations,

931
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: and the uncle was uncle.

932
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the guy's name is. He's out

933
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: in LA Yes, yeah, that's like the only guy. He

934
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: was kind of that way in San Antonio. But that

935
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: dude was handling everything and he was the only guy

936
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: that knew.

937
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: What was going on and if there was all sorts

938
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: of crazy requests. We need this much private airtime, you know,

939
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: we need this Like I think they wanted like the

940
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: team to pay off his mortgage in blah blah blah.

941
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: This isn't that.

942
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: I only bring it up, because yes, it was crazy,

943
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 2: but he was Kawhi Leonard at a point in his career,

944
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: which we talked about a few weeks ago, ironically enough,

945
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: where he might have been the best basketball player on

946
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: the planet, and so he had all of the leverage

947
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: in that situation. And so I think it's easy now

948
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 2: for Caleb Williams, after a disappointing rookie year, after a year,

949
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: by the way, where the number two pick in the

950
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: draft not only outplayed them but just might be a

951
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: better quarterback, for us to sit here and say that

952
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: this is the craziest, most preposterous thing we've ever heard.

953
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is, when all of this happened,

954
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams was believed to be a generational prospect. And

955
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: to your point, there is nothing factually incorrect about the

956
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 2: idea that Chicago is a place where quarterbacks go to die.

957
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: And so Caleb Williams and his family at that time

958
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: had some degree of leverage and they tried to use it.

959
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: And so to me, yeah, if your career is going

960
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: to be defined by like you know, you me de Segur,

961
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: any host on these airwaves, we're lucky enough where we

962
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: get to make this decisions based on what we believe

963
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: is best for our careers independent of whatever. And what

964
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: I mean by that is, if for some reason we

965
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: thought Fox Sports Radio wasn't the right fit for us

966
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: or whatever, we don't have to be here. We weren't

967
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: drafted by Fox Sports Radio out of journalism school, and

968
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: this is where we had to go. And so Caleb

969
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: Williams only gets one career. Caleb Williams only has one

970
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: opportunity to reach his potential, and he had all of

971
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: the leverage in that situation. And so I have absolutely

972
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: zero problem with him and his family trying to leverage that,

973
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, the leverage that he had to put himself

974
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: in a better situation. Now, what we also learned is

975
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: that Ryan Poles and the Chicago Bears basically told him

976
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: to kick Rocks. And so again, I you know, it's

977
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: almost the reverse Shador where S thought he had leverage

978
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: and had absolutely zero and it came back to bite him.

979
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 2: But this is a case where he did have leverage,

980
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: he tried to take advantage of it. It didn't work out,

981
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: you know, he wasn't able to use that leverage. But

982
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: this was a long winded way of just me saying

983
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: that I have no problem with it because any time

984
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: in life that you not only have leverage, but you

985
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: know that you're going to a situation that might not

986
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: be advantageous to you, you're going to try to take

987
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: advantage of it, are you not?

988
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: Jmark? I mean yeah, Eli Manning famously didn't want to

989
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: go to the Chargers. John Elway, I'm a Broncos fan.

990
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: John Elway didn't want to go to the Colts. Like,

991
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: this is not the first time that this has happened.

992
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: It will not be the last time that this has happened.

993
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: I understand, like we said, I understand why he wouldn't

994
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: have wanted to go to Chicago. And you're right, he's

995
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: never going to have more leverage than being the number

996
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: one pick.

997
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 2: And the definitive It wasn't like, you know, I can't

998
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: think of a good example, but like we can again

999
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: use revisionist history to claim that Jaden Daniels is this

1000
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: or that, but there was no doubt that he was

1001
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: going to be the number one pick. And so it's

1002
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: not as though there was five guys in the conversation

1003
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: and putting something like that out was only going to

1004
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: hurt his draft stock.

1005
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: He was going number one. I didn't mean to cut

1006
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: you off, but I think that's important context.

1007
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, I think the other part that's important

1008
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: here in context is he played for the Bears last year.

1009
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: They didn't want to go, but he still played when

1010
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: he got drafted, and that's the story. Like he didn't

1011
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: sit out wine Sulk refused to play anything like that.

1012
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: He gave it his all. It wasn't a great year,

1013
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: and he had the wrong head coach, and he took

1014
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: a whole lot for that too. A lot of people

1015
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: were just like, oh man, Jaydon Daniels way better than them.

1016
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to see he may be Jadon

1017
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: Daniels may well be a better quarterback, there's no question.

1018
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: But Caleb Williams, We're going to see better this year

1019
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: from him. I'm almost assured of it. Like I feel

1020
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,959
Speaker 1: very certain that Caleb's going to have a much better

1021
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: year this year. And I look at this and I'm like,

1022
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: this will be a fun part of the Caleb Williams

1023
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: story if he does get successful, because it just makes

1024
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: the whole thing better. Like it's just it it's a

1025
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: little bit of color to it, adds a little bit

1026
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: of drama to it, just a little extra twist in

1027
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: the middle of the book, but there's still so much

1028
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: to be written after this fact that it's just when

1029
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: I saw this, I'm like, I don't blame Carl Williams.

1030
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't blame Caleb Williams either. I mean, Chicago was

1031
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: a dumpster fire of an organization for so long, and yeah,

1032
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: like and also the fans are so starved, Like he

1033
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: was gonna walk in, He's gonna have a ton of

1034
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: expectations on his shoulder around an organization that's been a

1035
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: garbage dump for such a long period of time. So

1036
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: there have been moments where I thought Carl Williams has

1037
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: stepped in it and said some things and done some

1038
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: things that weren't particularly good for his son. This one,

1039
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like, yeah, I kind of see

1040
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: where he's coming from.

1041
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: Well, and i'd add too, you know I think that Listen,

1042
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: let me put it this way. I think even the

1043
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: Bears realize that the Bears are the place, you know, like,

1044
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: look at how they've drafted, Look at the coach that

1045
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: they just hired, Look at how they drafted after they

1046
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: hired that coach. So so yeah, I don't know, Like

1047
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: I just I think it's an interesting story, but I just,

1048
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: you know, I don't see and I don't think like

1049
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: like we have people in our business that fake outrage

1050
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: and fake takes and you know whatever, I don't I

1051
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: think there were people in our business that don't generally

1052
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: just make up a take for the sake of a conversation.

1053
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: That seemed to be genuinely upset by this. And I

1054
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: don't know if it's because we kind of knew this

1055
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: happen and maybe this is just the best most definitive

1056
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: reporting we've had on it, or if I don't know,

1057
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: I just it feels like people are upset by this,

1058
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: and it's like he had the leverage.

1059
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 3: It didn't work out. Deal with it.

1060
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: Now, By the way, you know, there is a little

1061
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: bit more pressure on you, you know, like, you know,

1062
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: I think it's a little easier to quote unquote root

1063
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: against Caleabo. But by the way, the other thing too is,

1064
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 2: you know, I always think we have to be careful of,

1065
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: you know, attacking And I understand all these guys are

1066
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: making money now, but attacking the nineteen.

1067
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one year old right when the parent is

1068
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 3: acting in the manner that.

1069
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: He dude, this is the I mean, that's Nico exactly.

1070
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was thinking of.

1071
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Yet yeah, I mean really like That's why we both

1072
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: said it repeatedly on the show when we talked about

1073
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: the Nico story, this being Nico ya mala yama liava is.

1074
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: It was his it was his parents, it was his representation.

1075
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: If you read those stories, I felt sorry for Nico, Like, yeah,

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00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: he had to make his own decision. He made the

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00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: wrong one in my opinion, Tom will tell, But I

1078
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: felt like he never really had a chance, Like everything

1079
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: was being orchestrated above him and it wasn't on him.

1080
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: Plus he's so young, and of course he's going to

1081
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: listen to his own family. Hopefully this will be the

1082
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: last time that he does that. But I mean this,

1083
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff has happened before. Again, remember Zion,

1084
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Like the stuff about his family that was coming out

1085
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: after the draft or even before the draft, that they

1086
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: weren't happy about this, and they weren't happy about that.

1087
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: And I mean John Moran, it's dad like hanging out

1088
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: at games on the floor like all of Alburns. Yeah,

1089
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: say Haliburn's dad. Yeah, yeah, Like this is not new.

1090
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: This is not like parents sometimes overstep their bounds and

1091
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: do some things that are harmful to their own children,

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00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: and in this case, I don't think Carl Williams did.

1093
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: But this, this is not new either. Like I think

1094
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: there's some pearl clutching going on. If anybody's really upset by.

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00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 3: This, yeah, I agree. And here's the last last thing

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00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: I'll just say on this.

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00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: I don't think if you don't think it's a good situation,

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00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: there's any harm in asking like not asking for a

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00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: trade or asking whatever, but asking a lawyer.

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00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: Hey, is this.

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00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 3: Collective bargaining agreement? Is this? Can this hold up in court?

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00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: Hey?

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00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: I you know whatever.

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00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: I can't think of another example, but hey, would the

1105
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: UFL really be an option? Probably not, But it's at

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00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: least worth making a phone call. Like I just again,

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00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: that's the other part too, is there's nothing wrong with

1108
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: making a phone call. There's nothing wrong with calling consulting

1109
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: with a lawyer. And at the end of the day,

1110
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: like you said, he got drafted by the Bears, he

1111
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: showed up on day one, he played every single game,

1112
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: and now you know, we'll see what happens from here.

1113
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: But but yeah, no, I again, I think it's an

1114
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: interesting story.

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00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 3: I just, I just I don't know. I'm with you.

1116
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 3: I felt a lot of it.

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00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I mean, like what you're talking about

1118
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: checking out a lawyer. What's the worst you found out? Oh,

1119
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: I do have to go where they drive? Okay, I

1120
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: guess I'll have to go there then, Like, I mean

1121
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: that that's really all it is. Like you're inquiring. You're

1122
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: trying to see whether or not there's anything you can

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00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: do to make it what you think is going to

1124
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: be a better situation. It's like the worst that can

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00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: happen is you find out you can't do it, and

1126
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: then you go ahead and you do the thing you

1127
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: were going to do. Anyway. It's like, yeah, you ask

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00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: the beautiful girl out and if she tells you no,

1129
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: then you just move on with your life. Like it's

1130
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: the same kind of deal. It's like, are you just

1131
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: gonna go when you don't want to and not try

1132
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: to out? I imagine there's probably been a lot of

1133
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: people that have done this that we never heard this about.

1134
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: In addition to the sum that we have, there's no

1135
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: question in my mind that there have been guys that

1136
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: have been drafted places or even beforehand it said, is

1137
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: there a way for me not to have to go here? Like,

1138
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Cooper Flagg didn't want to go to Atlanta?

1139
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 4: Did he?

1140
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 5: Not?

1141
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: That he had to because he's going to Dallas because

1142
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: everything's on the up and nip. But anyway, I'm gonna

1143
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 1: keep teasing it before we even get to it. But yeah,

1144
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: like I just I was fine with this. I think

1145
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: it made for a good story this week. Just it

1146
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: made for some good banter back and forth for a

1147
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: lot of radio shows and a lot of television shows

1148
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: around the country. But in my heart of hearts, I'm

1149
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, like if I were Carl Williams, I'd

1150
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: want to I'd want this situation to be the best

1151
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: that it could possibly be to help my son out

1152
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: as well. And Chicago, I don't think anybody was gonna

1153
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: call that the best situation for a quarterback to walk

1154
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: into at that point.

1155
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: Totally agree.

1156
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: Again, the the quotes came out of a new book

1157
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: from Seth Wickersham and see what Happens, We'll see what

1158
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: else comes out of this book. But again, the book

1159
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: is a America Kings, a biography of the quarterback, and

1160
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: the excerpt that they decided to release involve Caleb Williams

1161
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: clearly not wanting to be a Chicago bear. Fox Sports

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00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 2: Radio Aeron Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox

1163
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. We will come back and we will

1164
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: talk about not the number one overall pick, but of

1165
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: course mister irrelevant brock Perty got paid.

1166
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 3: What does it mean? But also what does it not mean?

1167
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio.

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00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,399
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1174
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,400
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00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,719
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1181
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,120
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1182
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Speaker 2: your screen. In just one moment, we will talk about

1184
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: the big news from late Friday, Rock Party got paid.

1185
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next. Before we do, though, let's get

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00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: over the news desk Desagar.

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00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: What is trend new?

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00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: Oh, we got a wild ballgame going on at Dodger Stadium.

1189
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 4: It's two outs, bases loaded for LA against the quote

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00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 4: LA Angels in the bottom of the eighth inning. The

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00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 4: visitors from Anaheim are holding on to a lead against

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00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 4: the Dodgers ten to nine. In the bottom of the

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00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: eighth again bases full for the home team and in

1194
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: this one, Freddie Freeman with four more hits four for

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00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 4: five is batting averages up to three seventy five for

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00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 4: the Halos. Catcher Logan Ohoppy with a home run and

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00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: five a Colorado came back for a fourteen to twelve

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00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: win at Arizona, San Francisco on a tenth inning bases

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Speaker 4: loaded walk won one nothing over the A's Seattle and

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00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 4: Boston with wins. Minnesota won its thirteenth game in a row.

1201
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: Mets and Washington were winners, and then Aastionals game was

1202
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 4: at Baltimore today ten to sixth. The final the Orioles

1203
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 4: before the game had fired manager Brandon Hyde, but the

1204
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 4: team has now lost five in a row, with a

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: record of fifteen and twenty nine. In the NHL Playoffs,

1206
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 4: the second round series ended tonight at Dallas. The Stars

1207
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: eliminated Winnipeg in overtime, two to one. The game winning

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00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 4: goal came on the power play. So coach Pete de

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00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: Boor has now made it into the conference final for

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00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 4: the eighth time in his career, third most for any

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00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 4: coach in the NHL's expansion era, which goes back to

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00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: the late nineteen sixties. This is, also, according to AP,

1213
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 4: the sixth time in the last seven seasons that coach

1214
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: de bor has made it to Hockey's Final four. Of course,

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00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 4: he's lost his last five trips there, including two Edmonton

1216
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 4: in six games a year ago Dallas against Edmonton this

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00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: year in the West Final starting Wednesday. As for the

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00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference, we've got a game seven Sunday night, Florida

1219
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 4: at Toronto. The winner goes to the East Final against

1220
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 4: Carolina starting Tuesday. Journalism the favorite won the Preakness, coming

1221
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 4: from behind late he'd finished second in the derby in

1222
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: the rain. This was the one hundred and fifthtieth pre

1223
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 4: mistakes and better weather than the Derby saw a couple

1224
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 4: of weeks back. Kentucky Derby winner Sovereignty did not run today,

1225
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 4: fifth time in seven years with no Triple Crown at

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00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 4: stake in the Preakness, as we go to load management

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Speaker 4: and horse racing as well as did Scottie Scheffler leads

1228
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 4: the PGA Championship by three strokes after a third round

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Speaker 4: sixty five. Alex Norin in second place in Charlotte. In

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 4: Major League Soccer, Toronto won six to one over Montreal Chicago,

1231
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 4: a four to one winner at Charlotte. And speaking of Charlotte,

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Speaker 4: we had and we note this for triple a Charlotte

1233
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: winning five to three Gwinnett. But notable for the Braves

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01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 4: Ronald Acuno Junior a home run and four walks in

1235
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 4: the minors tonight in the home loss.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Steve Sager to Sega will be back in about ten

1238
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: minutes from now with his extended update that he does

1239
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: every Saturday into Sunday around this time. Fox Sports Radio

1240
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: air towards Jason Martin. We are taking you till two.

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Speaker 3: Eight m Eastern.

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Speaker 2: J mart Let's get to the big piece of news

1243
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: from Friday. I'll be real, and I was texting you

1244
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: and producer breathe this. I don't know where I was

1245
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: at whatever time, you know, three o'clock eastern when this

1246
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: story broke four o'clock eastern. I was just bopping around

1247
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: the house at like eleven at night last night, or

1248
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't quite so late. Maybe it was like

1249
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: eleven eastern, twelve eastern, eight nine Pacific. I think it

1250
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: was during the next game and somebody I saw something

1251
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: about brock Party and it was like, apparently he had

1252
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: just signed this massive extension and I just missed it.

1253
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: But it is official, five year, two hundred and sixty

1254
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: five million dollar deal, about one hundred eighty one in

1255
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 2: total guarantees, including one hundred million fully guaranteed at signing.

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Speaker 2: I got some takes, but I'll toss it over to

1257
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: you first. What are your thoughts on this brock Party deal.

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. That was really my first take.

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01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: It was just like manum, mister irrelevant, no more. That

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01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: is for sure. It's a decent amount of guaranteed money.

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01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: You knew they were going to pay him. I did

1262
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: look at him it was just like, gosh, just a

1263
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: lot of money for Brock Party, because I don't look

1264
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: at San Francisco and think that's a team that, to

1265
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: me is a team that kind of reminds me a

1266
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: little of the Bucks. Well we were talking about an hour.

1267
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 3: One, Milwaukee's just like Tampa Bay.

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01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just generally it just feels like that's

1269
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: peaked and there have been some other teams in the

1270
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: NFC that now you feel a lot stronger about. The

1271
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: difference is I feel better about Kyl Shanahan than I

1272
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: do Doc Rivers at this point in time. But so

1273
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: you're paying brock Party, but I don't know that that

1274
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: roster's gonna win a championship. I guess the question is like,

1275
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: what else were you gonna do at the quarterback or

1276
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,479
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position for San Francisco? And I don't

1277
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: know that you had the right answer to that question yet,

1278
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: So I guess in that capacity, this is just kind

1279
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: of what's gonna happen for quarterbacks at this point. But

1280
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: the bigger story is just like what an unbelievable thing

1281
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: this is for brock Party, Like just his story is

1282
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: it's just miraculous.

1283
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, all I would really say is

1284
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: I think that context here matters. Is that, like you said,

1285
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: they weren't going to just let Brock party walk. And

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Speaker 2: so when you work under that assumption and you actually

1287
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: look at the deal, it's just hard for me to

1288
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: get Listen. I feel like I'm lukewarm Taurus tonight. I

1289
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: wasn't fired up about the Caleb Williams thing. Fired up

1290
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: about this because at the end of the day, one

1291
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty one in total guarantees feels like a lot.

1292
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: But here's the truth. The fifty three million dollar a

1293
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: year average, which is a lot, is tied for seventh

1294
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: at the position behind you know, not only stars like

1295
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, but behind Dak Prescott, behind Jordan Love,

1296
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: behind Trevor Lawrence, behind Tua the The one hundred and

1297
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: eighty one in guarantees is the eighth most of all

1298
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: NFL quarterbacks.

1299
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: And so you know, I just listen.

1300
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: You know, I have been a proponent for years that

1301
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: NFL teams shouldn't feel like I've always hated this notion that, well,

1302
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: the next guy up just has to get more than

1303
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: the last guy gott and it's like why, Yeah, if

1304
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: the guy's Josh Allen, he gets more than the last

1305
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: guy up. Okay, if it's Trevor Lawrence, I'm not so sure.

1306
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: And so what it actually reminds me of a lot

1307
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: was the Tua contract from this time last year. And

1308
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: I remember, for for whatever reason, I was filling in

1309
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 2: with Rob Parker right around the time that it was done,

1310
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: and my first inclination was with Tua. It was like, well, man,

1311
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: he gets hurt a lot, and you know, do you

1312
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: want to guarantee it?

1313
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: And I just remember Rob saying, like, what was the alternative?

1314
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: It's the Dolphins.

1315
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: They haven't had a relevant quarterback in twenty five years

1316
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: since Dan Marino retired. And I kind of just feel

1317
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 2: that way with Brock Purdy is that, yes, he is

1318
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: a quarterback that needs a lot of help by the

1319
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 2: way most quarterbacks do. But when you factor in that

1320
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: it's the eighth most and guaranteed money, he's behind several

1321
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: other guys. And oh, by the way, a bunch of

1322
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: other guys are gonna come up, and by the end

1323
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: of the by the time this contract expires in five years,

1324
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: you know, he's probably gonna be, you know, eighteenth rather

1325
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: than eighth, it's just hard for me to say that

1326
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: it's some disastrous deal, even though I agree with you

1327
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: largely that you know, he's just a guy that needs

1328
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: so much help, and the contract does to a degree

1329
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: hinder the help that they'll be able to get them.

1330
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's right. I mean, I think

1331
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: that this is not egregious money for the position and

1332
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: just kind of for the rate. Like I'm with you,

1333
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: and I've been this way for a long time. Like,

1334
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't believe that it should always be next guy up.

1335
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: I think that there are some guys where the market

1336
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: should just kind of reset and change because things aren't

1337
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: exactly as they seem or they aren't what they should

1338
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: be at the same time, Like, is this like insane money? No,

1339
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: if you're a forty nine ers fan, I don't know

1340
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: exactly how you feel about this, But you're kind of

1341
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: caught because even though you don't have Patrick Mahomes, you

1342
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: don't have Josh Allen, you don't have Lamar, you don't

1343
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: have like one of those guys, you do have a

1344
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: guy that a lot of people do like. And I

1345
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get if you don't pay

1346
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: him like, this is the situation that a lot of

1347
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: guys have, like or a lot of teams have, where

1348
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: you maybe don't have have that transcendent superstar, but you

1349
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: also don't have a scrub and so you're caught because

1350
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: there's not anything you can really do unless you want

1351
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: to bought him out, and very few teams are willing

1352
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: to do that. And I definitely don't think that San

1353
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: Francisco is at this point so good for brock Party.

1354
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: And certainly he's done everything you would want him to

1355
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: do from a professional standpoint. I don't think he is

1356
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: a game changing quarterback, but I think you could do

1357
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: a lot worse. And I've seen guys get paid commensurate

1358
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: or even more than this relative to the rest of

1359
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: the market that absolutely had not done as much as

1360
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: brock Party has to this point.

1361
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me just kind of follow up with that, is,

1362
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: you know, at least for the next year or two,

1363
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: this corps is largely going to be intact.

1364
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 3: We know about all of the injuries last year.

1365
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams, Brandon Ayuk. I will say this, Jamart,

1366
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: We'll do some schedule release stuff in our three You

1367
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: look at that forty nine ers schedule. I don't know

1368
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: if you had a chance to look at it, but basically,

1369
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: unless I'm missing something, the only teams that are on

1370
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: the schedule that made the playoffs last year obviously two

1371
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 2: games with the Rams. Then you have a game at Tampa,

1372
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 2: and you have a game at the Houston Texans. And

1373
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: unless I'm forgetting somebody in the playoffs, this is who

1374
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: you got. Seattle, no New Orleans, no sorry, producer Brie.

1375
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: Two games against Arizona Jaguars. Ah, that's a big fat

1376
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 2: no Falcons, no Giants, no Panthers, no Browns, no Titans,

1377
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: no Colts, no Bears. No, that's the schedule. Man, It's

1378
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: pretty bad. I've seen some stats. I don't know if

1379
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 2: I think I saw a stat where it's like, statistically

1380
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 2: one of the worst schedules ever based on like the

1381
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: win loss percentage from the previous year. So I don't

1382
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 2: know what that really means for like the five Iverer

1383
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: window of Brock Party.

1384
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 3: This is a very manageable schedule though.

1385
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, and again, like I said, I was just

1386
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: when I first saw it. I kind of mys did

1387
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 1: crop up when I saw the two hundred and big

1388
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: time million and one eighty plus guarantee and all this.

1389
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: But then it's just kind of like the other thing.

1390
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know that we mentioned this yet, is

1391
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: the cap money's just gonna keep going up. The salary

1392
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: CAP's gonna continue to raise, new TV deals and everything

1393
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: else that's going on. So go ahead and pay him now,

1394
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to at some point. Anyway, you're gonna

1395
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: see guys that arnest talented as Brock Party make more

1396
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: money than Brock Party in the next couple of years.

1397
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, yeah, so we will see what happens here

1398
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: Brock Party signs a big contract. But again, all things considered,

1399
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 2: I do think all things considered, it could be much worse.

1400
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air Tours Jason Martin broadcasting live from

1401
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Studio. We'll come back, Seger, give

1402
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: you a couple extra minutes for that extended update, as

1403
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: we do every week.

1404
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: Around twelve forty.

1405
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: Five, we got to figure out where the tan came from.

1406
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: Well the yeah, I don't know. I mean, it looks

1407
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: stand to me. I don't want to give away too.

1408
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: Many beach tales with Steve Disager when we come back.

1409
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he was certainly on the water. I don't

1410
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: know how much. I don't know how much beach there is. Well,

1411
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: we'll get to the Sager's vacation next, and he will

1412
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: also get us caught up on everything else that we

1413
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 2: missed throughout the week and the day in sports on

1414
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: a busy Saturday, Disager Next.

1415
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

1416
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from

1417
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios, as.

1418
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 3: We do every week around this time.

1419
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 2: Let's get it over the news desk Steve de Sager,

1420
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: what is trending?

1421
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 4: Hello, gentlemen, And again no particular tan here, but it

1422
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 4: was an enjoyable week. And since you asked, I was

1423
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 4: actually in the snow one day this past week. Notable

1424
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 4: for a guy from Los Angeles, but I was outside

1425
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 4: Lake Tah Tuesday while at the site of appropriately the

1426
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 4: Winter Olympics of nineteen sixty. The snow was falling in

1427
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 4: Squaw Valley, California, known as Olympic Valley now. But it

1428
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 4: was incredible to be there because it is a tiny

1429
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 4: site to hold at Olympics. But of course there were

1430
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 4: far fewer sports in the games back then. You could

1431
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,839
Speaker 4: except for cross country skiing literally walk from one venue

1432
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,919
Speaker 4: to the other. The hills that they used for skiing

1433
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 4: competition then are the hills that are used for tourists

1434
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 4: skiing there now. They got the rights to the Games

1435
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 4: four years in advance and then spent eighty million dollars

1436
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 4: because they had to not just for venues but for

1437
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 4: the whole infrastructure to host. The World granted a smaller

1438
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 4: Olympics at that time, but there was nothing at that

1439
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 4: place before, and there's only one building still around from

1440
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty, a certain a frame that I saw, But

1441
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 4: it's still the only Winter Games without a bombs leg

1442
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 4: competition at all, because in nineteen sixty they just didn't

1443
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 4: want to build it for one week's use and it

1444
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 4: was never going to be used again, and they thought, well,

1445
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 4: this is not a cost effective Walt Disney himself was

1446
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 4: the head of the opening and closing ceremonies then. And

1447
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 4: in hockey, the US beat the Soviets in nineteen sixty

1448
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 4: on the way to an unlikely gold on home soil,

1449
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 4: just like nineteen eighty at Lake Placid, New York, which

1450
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 4: is another small area that somehow got to hold.

1451
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: How Come that one doesn't get the buzz. Where was

1452
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 2: al Michael's in nineteen sixty?

1453
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 3: Come on High School?

1454
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 4: There was a documentary made about the nineteen sixty US

1455
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: team and it was called the Forgotten Gold. Oh yeah,

1456
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 4: that it certainly is. Well, we've got other things to

1457
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: discuss on this Saturday evening. Somehow, the Minnesota Twins have

1458
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 4: won thirteen games in a row. They won seven to

1459
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 4: nothing at Milwaukee tonight, eighteen hits for of the Brewers

1460
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 4: had just three three to thirty at the plate. So

1461
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 4: the Minnesota Twins have now pitched thirty three straight scoreless innings. Now,

1462
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 4: this is a great stat of course from Statsync the Twins,

1463
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 4: and this is in the divisional eras, so it goes

1464
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 4: back about fifty five years of baseball history. The Twins

1465
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 4: are one of those teams to have a winning streak

1466
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 4: of at least thirteen straight games in a single regular season.

1467
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 4: The thing is, almost every team that's had that long

1468
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 4: a winning streak has failed to win the World Series

1469
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 4: that year. The only exception the Twins of nineteen ninety

1470
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 4: one that beat the Braves in a Game seven. So

1471
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,520
Speaker 4: what will happen to this year's Twins? Will stay tuned.

1472
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: On that one.

1473
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,440
Speaker 4: But these twins, and they used to be in franchise

1474
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,480
Speaker 4: history many decades ago. They used to be the Washington Senators.

1475
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 4: They're nearing a franchise record. Those Senators nineteen twelve had

1476
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 4: a seventeen game winning streak. This is thirteen in a row.

1477
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 4: The late game is still going at Dodger Stadium. It's

1478
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 4: two outs, its bottom of the ninth inning, and it's

1479
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 4: eleven to nine Angels over the Dodgers. The former Dodger

1480
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 4: closer Kenley Jansen came on with bases loaded in the

1481
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 4: eighth to get the final out and keep the lead.

1482
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 4: Clayton Kershaw was the starting pitch for the Dodgers in

1483
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: his season debut in the Majors. A long first inning,

1484
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 4: he threw almost forty pitches. Eventually four innings, five runs allowed.

1485
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 4: Kershaw he is closer to three thousand career strikeouts. By

1486
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 4: the way, Angels have just recorded the final out eleven

1487
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 4: nine halos the finals saved to Jansen at Dodger Stadium.

1488
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 4: But an amazing stat that Clayton Kershaw has now struck

1489
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: out more batters than any pitcher in history at any

1490
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 4: one ballpark. Mickey Lolich at Tiger Stadium for example, apparently

1491
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 4: at over fifteen hundred career strikeouts. Steve Carlton of the

1492
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 4: Phillies at the VET over sixteen hundred career strikeouts, Clayton

1493
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:43,879
Speaker 4: Kershaw at Dodger Stadium over sixteen hundred career strikeouts. Well, earlier,

1494
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 4: we had a Mets Yankees game and with a run

1495
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 4: top of the ninth, the Mets won three to two.

1496
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 4: Edwin Diaz the save. Aaron Judge went zero for five

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01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 4: with three strikeouts cad to end the game. He's now

1498
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 4: batting well. It's only four h two on the season.

1499
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 4: But who is lee the majors in RBIs It's not

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01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 4: Aaron Judge, It's Wilmer Flores, Ladies and gentlemen, the man

1501
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 4: who had a bases loaded walk in San Francisco to

1502
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 4: win one nothing over the A's in ten innings tonight.

1503
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 4: Wilmer Flores, all in back the last decade, has fourteen

1504
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 4: career walk off plate appearances. That is the most in

1505
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 4: the majors in that span, and that includes tonight against

1506
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 4: the A's closer Mason Miller. Forty two runs batted in

1507
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 4: for Wilmer Flores to lead the majors by the way.

1508
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 4: As this Dodger game is now final. The Dodgers did

1509
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 4: lose a reliever to an apparent hamstring injury, Kirby Yates.

1510
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 4: The Dodgers already have fifteen pitchers on the injured list.

1511
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 4: The closer for Seattle still has an ERA of zero

1512
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 4: this year, Andres Munoz got his fourteenth save tonight. Seattle

1513
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 4: won at San Diego four to one, cal Rally with

1514
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 4: his fifteenth home run of the season. The Colorado Rockies

1515
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 4: road record this year was two and twenty one. They

1516
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 4: got to win in a comeback tonight. They were trailing

1517
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 4: at Arizona eleven to six after five innings and still

1518
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 4: beat the Dbacks fourteen to twelve. Isikiel Tovar five for

1519
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 4: six come back win on Fox TV tonight at Boston

1520
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 4: for the Red Sox, who had lost four in a row,

1521
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 4: but beat Atlanta seven to six on a solo homer

1522
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 4: bottom of the ninth from Rafael Devers. The Red Sox

1523
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 4: had trailed six to two in the seventh inning, and

1524
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 4: today Baltimore fired its manager, Brandon Hyde, but the team

1525
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 4: has now lost five in a row with a record

1526
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 4: of fifteen and twenty nine. Because they lost at home

1527
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 4: today to Washington ten to six the loss to starter

1528
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 4: Kyle Gibson. He's oh and three for the Orioles. His

1529
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 4: ERA is up to sixteen point seven to eight. Yes,

1530
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 4: he is still gainfully employed. He's allowed six home runs

1531
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,879
Speaker 4: in the first inning, didn't get out of the first Today.

1532
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 4: We had an NHL playoff team eliminated tonight. Winnipeg out

1533
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 4: in six lost in overtime to Dallas two to one tonight.

1534
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 4: Apparently the only other NHL team to go oh and

1535
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 4: six on the road or worse in a single postseason

1536
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 4: was the Hurricane three years ago. These Winnipeg Jets and

1537
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 4: their goalie Connor hellibuok win zho to six on the

1538
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 4: road this postseason. Of course, his goals against average was

1539
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 4: near six until tonight, a low scoring game, but he

1540
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 4: allowed the game winning goal early in the ot and

1541
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 4: it came on the power play. It was scored just

1542
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 4: a minute thirty three into the overtime. So Halibuck has

1543
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 4: now lost his last ten away games in the playoffs.

1544
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 4: It'll be Dallas against Edmonton in the West Final starting

1545
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 4: on Wednesday, and we've got a coach who's back in

1546
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 4: the conference final. Can he win it this time? Pete

1547
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 4: d Bord. There is a game seven Sunday night in

1548
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 4: the East, Florida at Toronto. That winner goes to the

1549
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 4: East Final starting Tuesday against Carolina, and Alex Ovechkin will

1550
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 4: keep playing. Why not, He's still good even though he

1551
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 4: turns forty in September. He will return to play next

1552
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 4: season for Washington. It'll be his twenty first season with

1553
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 4: the Capitals. It'll be the final year of his current contract.

1554
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 4: The NBA has its second Round end on Sunday with

1555
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 4: a Game seven Denver at Oklahoma City. The winner hosts

1556
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,919
Speaker 4: Minnesota to start the Western Conference Finals on Tuesday. Denver's

1557
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon is questionable for Sunday. He's called a game

1558
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 4: time decision with the strained hamstring. The East Finals start

1559
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 4: Wednesday with Indiana at New York. The Pacers had won

1560
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 4: in the second round four games to one against the

1561
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 4: one seed Cleveland, while New York advanced over Boston four

1562
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 4: games to two. The NBA Finals will start June fifth.

1563
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 4: The WNBA regular season has started this weekend, and the

1564
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 4: feature matchup today had Indiana blowing out Chicago ninety three

1565
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 4: fifty eight, Caitlin Clark with a triple double. In fact,

1566
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 4: She finished with twenty points, ten rebounds, ten assists and

1567
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 4: four block shots. Angel rees In The lost seventeen rebounds

1568
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 4: but five turnovers as well. Phoenix won the late game

1569
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 4: easily eighty one fifty nine over Seattle, New York over

1570
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 4: Las Vegas ninety two to seventy eight. Asia Wilson and

1571
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 4: the lost thirty one points sixteen rebounds, but at W

1572
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 4: four Breonna Stewart's team she had twenty five points. Scottie

1573
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 4: Scheffler is leading the PGA Championship by three strokes in

1574
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 4: Charlotte after a third round sixty five. John Rahm five

1575
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 4: shots back. Bryson Deschamba is six behind. There was a

1576
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 4: two and a half hour weather delay at the start

1577
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 4: of round three today. Sergio Garcia shot seventy nine. He's

1578
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 4: last among those who made the cut. And we had

1579
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 4: the second of the three Triple Crown races today and

1580
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 4: this was run at the old Pimlico Race Course in

1581
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 4: Baltimore for the last time. It's going to be torn

1582
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 4: down and rebuilt, which means next year's Preakness is going

1583
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 4: to be nearby at a different place, Laurel Park, and

1584
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 4: then back at the new Pimlico they say in twenty

1585
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 4: twenty seven, and we also now have the first jockey

1586
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 4: from Italy to win a triple crown race, Umberto Ruspoli

1587
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 4: on the favorite journalism taking the Preakness today as the

1588
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 4: horse came from behind late for the win. Cosger was

1589
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 4: second by a half length. Sandman was third. This was

1590
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 4: the one hundred and fiftieth Preakness States. As mentioned earlier,

1591
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 4: the Kentucky Derby winner was not present. Sovereignty did not

1592
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 4: run today, fifth time in seven years with no triple

1593
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 4: Crown at steak in the Preaknets.

1594
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 2: Aspect you, as someone who has been to the Preakness twice,

1595
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 2: Pimlico ten years ago needed to be torn down ten

1596
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 2: years before, and uh, neighborhood wasn't that great either, But

1597
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,799
Speaker 2: that's kind of out of their control. But yeah, I'm

1598
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 2: not totally surprised, but I am a little surprised. Uh

1599
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: but yeah, So anyway, Fox Sports Radio Air Tours, thank

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01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: you to sayre Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox

1601
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. We got a busy, busy, busy hour

1602
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: three coming up. Get your conspira, get your tip foil

1603
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,799
Speaker 2: hats ready. We're talking Cooper flag we're talking NBA Draft lottery.

1604
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: Plus the NFL schedule has been released. We got lots

1605
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: of takes on that. Plenty left, one hour left, Aaron Tours,

1606
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, this is Fox Sports Radio.

1607
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1608
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: Hockme Man everybody hour three Tours and Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

1609
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1610
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: Should mention. By the way, be sure to check out

1611
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Ton of great videos

1612
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 2: from all of our Fox Sports Radio shows. Just search

1613
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole

1614
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: bunch of video highlights from our shows. And be sure

1615
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 2: to subscribe so you always have ins andt access to

1616
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Er Tords, Jason

1617
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 2: Marn't taking you up till two a m. Eastern time.

1618
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 2: Should mention it. As always, the great Bernie Fratto will

1619
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 2: follow us. Cannot wait to hear what Bernie has to

1620
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: say about a busy week in sports. One story that's

1621
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 2: certainly caught everybody's attention this week. It was a little

1622
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: while ago, but there's no reason we can't talk about

1623
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 2: it now. It was Monday night's NBA Draft lottery. We

1624
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 2: all know what was at stake. Cooper Flag will be

1625
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: the number one pick in the draft, regardless of who

1626
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: ended up with the pick, and we know who was

1627
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: likely to get that number one pick. Of course, we

1628
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 2: had the Washington Wizards. They were really bad. Thought they

1629
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: could get it, maybe the Charlotte Hornets or maybe the

1630
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz. Instead the Dallas Mavericks, a team with a

1631
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 2: one point eight percent chance to get the first pick

1632
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 2: in the NBA Draft.

1633
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 3: They ended up getting it. By the way, lost a.

1634
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: Little bit in the shuffle, J Bart was the fact

1635
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: that the Spurs ended up with the second overall pick,

1636
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: and of course Philadelphia right behind them. I've got an

1637
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 2: awful lot of conspiracy theories, J.

1638
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: Martin.

1639
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Mary mackew mighty as we'll

1640
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: put on the music now, I'll just say this. It

1641
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: feels awfully convenient that the team who gifted Luka Doncic

1642
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: a superstar just now entering his prime, fresh off of

1643
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: an NBA Finals appearance. I keep saying it, and I'll

1644
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: keep saying it. You and I were on air when

1645
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 2: it happened, When the trade literally happened, you and I

1646
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 2: were on air, could not figure out a logical explanation,

1647
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 2: and that night, I still have yet to hear a

1648
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 2: very logical explanation for that trade happening. He ends up

1649
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:11,480
Speaker 2: a laker, the glamour franchise in this league gets a superstar,

1650
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, about two and a half

1651
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: three months later, the Mavericks now get the number one pick.

1652
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: Jam Mart, you take this wherever you want. I'm just

1653
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 2: setting it up. However, I feel nesser.

1654
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 1: So I've been reliably informed by others in media that

1655
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 1: this would be a crime if it weren't on the

1656
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: up and up. If you were rigging a lottery, that

1657
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: would be a crime, which is true, and so there

1658
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: would be no way that this could happen. I've read this,

1659
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: I've heard people say this, I've seen this on television.

1660
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: All I got to say is the fact that we

1661
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: don't actually see the balls get drawn. We don't see

1662
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: anything done. We just see card We just see envelopes

1663
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: opened up. And here it is good luck trying to

1664
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: prove that this thing was not fixed. Good thing because

1665
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: you think about the circumstances surrounding this. Dallas is one

1666
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: of the most important sports markets in the country, one

1667
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: of the largest television markets in the country, for sports,

1668
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: for news, for everything. Everybody in the world knows that

1669
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: that trade killed that team, killed that city in terms

1670
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 1: of their interest level on the Mavericks, And so all

1671
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can bring somebody there that would

1672
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: actually make that workout, and you end up getting another

1673
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: megastar out to La to go ahead and make sure

1674
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: that the Lakers are set up for the next ten

1675
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: years if he doesn't eat himself out of the league.

1676
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: According to JJ Reddick, all of this, all this thing

1677
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: plays out, and it's not even just the first pig.

1678
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: It's the fact that the first three picks went Dallas,

1679
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: San Antonio, Philadelphia. The chances of all this are not

1680
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: very good. Is it feasible that this could have happened

1681
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 1: without it being fixed? Sure, But the problem for the

1682
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: NBA is this is not the first time. It's that

1683
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: the second time. It's not the third time that this

1684
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: thing has felt fishy recently, and it just seems like

1685
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: when there's just these can't miss guys or these dudes

1686
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: that have all sorts of hype coming in for the

1687
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: entire year leading in now Zion notwithstanding, but they did

1688
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 1: bring David Griffin there first and they were trying to

1689
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: do some different things there Washington, Atlanta, Charlotte like, yeah,

1690
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: we'll give you a Mecca Oka four, but we're not

1691
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: going to give you Cooper flag. We're not going to

1692
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 1: give you Lebron James and Lebron going to his hometown.

1693
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: As its own story goes back to Patrick Ewing all

1694
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: these things right now, I'm not saying every one of

1695
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: these was fixed. I'm not even necessarily telling you this

1696
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: is fixed. I'm telling you I kind of think something

1697
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: fishy happened here because stuff's been fishy in this league

1698
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: now for about three or four months in my opinion,

1699
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: and more than anything, Yes, I can't prove that it

1700
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: was fixed. You can't prove it wasn't because nothing was

1701
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: done in front of us. Everything was done behind and

1702
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: we were just told who won, We were told the spots.

1703
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: So don't tell me it's a crime when there's no

1704
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: way to prove the crime. Every bit of this played

1705
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: out to the NBA's benefit, every bit of it, and

1706
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 1: that just I just got to say it smells fishy,

1707
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: and I'll go on record and say I think it

1708
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: was rigged. All right.

1709
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 3: So a couple things.

1710
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: One you mentioned Spurs getting second pick, Philly getting the

1711
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 2: third pick.

1712
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 3: I had this tweeted to me.

1713
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's one hundred percent accurate, but

1714
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: I it feels too accurate to be made up. Someone

1715
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: named doctor Daniel Drew, so he's a doctor, at least

1716
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: according to Twitter. He said, FYI stats for you, the

1717
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 2: chances of the draft lottery resulting in the exact top

1718
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 2: three of Dallas, San Antonio and Philadelphia was zero point zero, one,

1719
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 2: three three. In other words, that's one in seven thousand,

1720
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 2: five hundred and thirty two odds. So if they drew

1721
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: this exact lottery, it would take seven thousand, five hundred

1722
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: and thirty two times to get this one specific order.

1723
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 2: So that plays into your theory about it working out

1724
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 2: perfectly for this league, right, and so really quickly I'll

1725
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: frame it, so just to be quick, Dallas traded Luca

1726
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 2: franchises on the brink. But also they kind of have

1727
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: a team that's sort of interesting. If everybody's healthy, now

1728
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: you have the number one pick. Number two pick goes

1729
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 2: to the team with the generational prospect that we all

1730
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 2: expect to be the next great dynasty.

1731
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 3: That's coincidental. And then of course number three.

1732
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: Philadelphia, which of course was very much a contender as

1733
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 2: recently as a year ago getting the number three pick.

1734
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 3: So this is what I would say. First of all,

1735
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 3: what bothers me.

1736
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 2: Is the simpletons that like refuse to acknowledge, like because

1737
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 2: I heard like smart people in the media basically insinuating

1738
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: that anyone that thinks this is rigged is a dummy,

1739
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 2: like that that you're wearing.

1740
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 3: A tinfoil hat. Whatever.

1741
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: All I'm gonna say is, again, first of all, just

1742
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 2: the facts that we pointed out. Luca gets traded to

1743
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 2: the Marquee franchise in a draft that nobody in a

1744
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: trade that nobody can explain, and there was no bidding

1745
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: process for him. The hall wasn't very good. It never

1746
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,839
Speaker 2: made sense. So this would be a way if somehow,

1747
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 2: some way the league orchestrated it to repay the maps.

1748
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 2: But let's let's let's that that's an opinion, that speculation.

1749
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1750
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna give you facts.

1751
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: These are not my opinions, These are just facts. Twenty

1752
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: five NBH Lottery is won by the MAVs. They get

1753
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 2: the number one pick. Just a few months after trading

1754
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: Luca to the Lakers, and again they had less than

1755
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: a two percent chance to get that number one pick

1756
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, So I'm gonna skip Wemby. Oh, he just

1757
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 2: goes to the organization that always gets the generational center,

1758
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 2: So let's skip Webby. Twenty nineteen. Pelicans get the number

1759
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 2: one pick in the Zion Draft, just a few months

1760
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 2: after trading Anthony Davis to the Lakers twenty fourteen, all

1761
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 2: this speculation that Lebron could be returning to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1762
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 2: They end up with the number one overall pick, which

1763
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,879
Speaker 2: of course was Andrew Wiggins would say traded twenty twelve.

1764
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 2: This a few months after the weird situation with Chris

1765
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 2: Paul Is he gonna be a Laker? Is he gonna

1766
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 2: be a Clipper? He ends up with the Clippers. But

1767
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: independent of that a few weeks there, a few months

1768
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 2: after New Orleans trades their top trades their most marketable

1769
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: player in a trade that was very beneficial for the league.

1770
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: The Pelicans or Hornets, they were the Hornets at the time.

1771
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 2: They get the number one pick, which became Anthony Davis

1772
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 2: and then twenty eleven. Never forget this was the first

1773
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: full lottery after. This was the first time the Calves

1774
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 2: were eligible for the draft lottery after Lebron left. So

1775
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: obviously he leaves in the summer of twenty ten, they're

1776
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 2: not gonna be in the lottery the year after making

1777
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 2: you know whatever, getting the number one seed.

1778
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 3: So the next NBA Draft lottery.

1779
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 2: That they could conceivably get the number one pick, they

1780
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 2: happen to end up with the number one pick. That

1781
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 2: doesn't include as you said, Patrick Ewing, it doesn't include Lebron.

1782
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 3: This is just in the last fifteen years.

1783
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 2: As you said, well, I'm not the one I'm paraphrasing,

1784
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 2: but basically you said, it always seems like when there's

1785
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 2: a generational prospect, or a top prospect, or a team

1786
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 2: really needs a break from the league, it happens this way.

1787
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 2: Just in the last fourteen years. I think you come

1788
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 2: up with five very easy scenarios where somebody did something

1789
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 2: that sort of benefited the or somebody got screwed in

1790
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 2: some sort of way, and the league just kind of

1791
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 2: happened to figure out a way for the ping pong

1792
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 2: balls to go their way. Again, that's not my opinion, Jamart.

1793
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 2: Those are just facts right there.

1794
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's just no why would I give this

1795
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: league the benefit of the doubt right now? Like every

1796
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: reason for them to do this right now makes sense

1797
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: for them to try and do this right now. The

1798
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 1: league just had a bad year. The All Star Game

1799
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: was an absolute joke. You get into the playoffs and

1800
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,879
Speaker 1: the games have been pretty good, but again, the television

1801
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: ratings aren't what you want them to be. You're about

1802
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: to have brand new television partners, You've got the TNT

1803
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: situation happening, you got Michael Jordan joining NBC. You're almost

1804
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: gonna try to like relaunch this thing. It's like two

1805
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: point zero NBA like try to bring people back to

1806
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: the dance at this point. And so why in the

1807
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: world would you not find a way if you could

1808
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 1: look one of There was an argument that I years ago.

1809
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't even an argument. It was just I argued

1810
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: this point that when Netflix bought WWE, the reason why

1811
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: I thought it was such a good value compared to

1812
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: even UFC or anything else, is that in UFC, it's

1813
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: not up to you who the star is. It's whoever

1814
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,520
Speaker 1: wins the fight. And maybe he's not the most charismatic

1815
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: guy or the guy that wants to be in front

1816
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: of the camera as much. Maybe he's Mike Trout and

1817
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: he's not Aaron Rodgers or something like that. In WWE,

1818
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: I can look at and determine who I want to

1819
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: be a star, and then I can book them for

1820
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: three or four years undefeated, write storylines around them, and

1821
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: barring some catastrophe in terms of like an injury or

1822
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: personal problem or something like that, I can make sure

1823
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: that what I want to happen happens. That's going to

1824
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 1: be the best, what I believe is going to be

1825
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: the best for my business. The NBA is in a

1826
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: unique position right here because of the weirdness of the lottery,

1827
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: which is its own topic. By it's like, there's really

1828
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: no reason why they do it this way because it

1829
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: still gives other teams a chance to end up with

1830
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: a better player than just the absolute bottom feeder team. Yes,

1831
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: they have a better percentage, but this is just right

1832
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: for conspiracy theories, right. This is why we can play

1833
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: the whole song, even the deep cut version with like

1834
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 1: the extra minutes in it, because we're still laying this out.

1835
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: But I said that I thought it was rigged. I

1836
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: guess because I worked in pro wrestling too long, and

1837
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,879
Speaker 1: because I saw everything, I even saw reality show bookers

1838
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: come into locker rooms at Georgia that was in and

1839
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 1: try to recruit guys and things like that for shows

1840
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: that were not supposed to be scripted, but we all

1841
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: knew were so like, I look at this and I'm

1842
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: just like, it's too perfect. It all fits like a

1843
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: tetrispiece beautifully like you if you you couldn't have scripted

1844
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: this better, if you were the NBA, if you were

1845
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: trying to set things up for the future. If Jannis

1846
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 1: ends up with the Spur and you end up a

1847
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 1: Cooper flag with the MAVs, and I don't know what

1848
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: happens with the Sixers, maybe they can involve somewhere. I

1849
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: don't know. But this whole thing sets you up perfectly

1850
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: if you're the NBA. So there's why why would you

1851
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: if he's somebody else and your point is the right one,

1852
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: why would you say that You're just a complete rube

1853
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: to believe? Like, ah, these idiots, It's like, why not

1854
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: do you see what's happening in politics in this country?

1855
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 1: You see what's happened in every If there's money involved,

1856
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't going to leave that up

1857
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 1: to chance if they can help it. And the NBA

1858
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: being in the struggle bus that it's been in so

1859
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,839
Speaker 1: many ways, Uh yeah, I would probably try to orchestrate

1860
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: this too behind the scenes if I thought I could

1861
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,560
Speaker 1: get away with it. And the NBA Draft Lottery is

1862
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: the easiest possible way to try and set the cards

1863
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: where I want them.

1864
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll just wrap by saying, again, whatever, whatever

1865
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 2: you personally think, is it rigged, is it not rigged

1866
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 2: by the way you know? Listen, I know social media

1867
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 2: polls aren't the best, but I saw a couple of

1868
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 2: them where I don't think that this is something that, oh,

1869
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 2: it's only the most tinfoil hat of tinfoil hats, Like

1870
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of people that believe

1871
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 2: what you and I believe. All I wrap by saying

1872
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 2: is that if this thing isn't rigged, there have been

1873
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 2: an awful lot of coincidences in terms of the right

1874
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 2: team getting the right guy in the right moment. And again,

1875
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 2: I'll just go back really quick twenty twenty five, Cooper

1876
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: flag ends up on the MAVs or Cooper flag ends

1877
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 2: up the MAVs end up with the number one pick

1878
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 2: just a few months after trading Luca. Twenty nineteen, the

1879
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Pelicans get the number one pick, just a few months

1880
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 2: after trading Anthony Davis.

1881
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 3: They end up with Zion.

1882
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,679
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen, all sorts of rumors about Lebron returning to Cleveland,

1883
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 2: they get the number one pick. Twenty twenty twelve, of course,

1884
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 2: was the post Chris Paul trade, they get the number

1885
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 2: one pick. And then again twenty eleven, the first draft

1886
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,839
Speaker 2: that the Calves could be or were in the lottery,

1887
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 2: they end up with the number one pick. And oh,

1888
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 2: by the way, that doesn't include Derreck Rose getting picked

1889
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 2: by the hometown Chicago Bulls, Lebron James getting picked by

1890
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 2: the hometown Cleveland Cavaliers, Patrick Ewing getting picked by the

1891
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 2: New York Knicks. One that I had forgotten that somebody

1892
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 2: just sent me apparently the Bulls number one pick in

1893
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 2: the ninety nine draft or somewhere somewhere in that mix,

1894
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:30,799
Speaker 2: shortly after Michael Jordan retired. So, like I said, not saying,

1895
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 2: just kind of sort of saying. Fox Sports Radio aertors

1896
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,839
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

1897
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 2: come back. Another big story from earlier in this week

1898
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 2: NFL Draft or NFL Draft, NFL schedule release. Oh, I

1899
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 2: got some takes, maybe a little pseudo conspiracy theory in

1900
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 2: that one as well.

1901
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 3: Gotta stay tuned.

1902
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:50,360
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1903
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,439
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1904
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1906
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1907
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:08,600
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1908
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We're taking it

1909
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 2: up till two a m. Eastern time. Bernie Farrado of

1910
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 2: The Bernie Fratto Show follows us jaymart really quick. We'll

1911
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: get to some NFL schedule in a sec. I feel

1912
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 2: remiss that we should at least mention the WNBA tipping

1913
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 2: off earlier on Saturday, Big story Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese,

1914
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 2: Sky versus Fever Fever.

1915
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 3: Get the win.

1916
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 2: But in true Angel Rees versus Caitlin Clark fashion, there

1917
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 2: was a little bit of a dust up, a semi

1918
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 2: hard foul on Caitton Clark. I don't think that it

1919
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 2: was the hardest fale I've ever seen. Was called a

1920
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 2: flagrant Angel Reese had to be held back I saw

1921
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 2: it live. I happen to have the game on when

1922
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 2: it happened, and I'll be real, I feel like it's

1923
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 2: the kind of thing that come Monday, the sports media

1924
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 2: will try to blow up and make a bigger thing

1925
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 2: than it is because it is Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese.

1926
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 2: I didn't think much of it, but you know, we

1927
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 2: are supposed to be talking about the biggest stories in sports,

1928
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: and I have a feeling it's going to make its

1929
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 2: rounds come Monday. Do you have any super strong takes

1930
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 2: out by the way, If you do, the floor is yours.

1931
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 2: I just it's hard for me to get super fired

1932
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 2: up about this one. I think it is going to

1933
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 2: be blown out of proportion. What did you make out

1934
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,560
Speaker 2: of what we saw Saturday in Indianapolis.

1935
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: It's definitely going to be blown out of proportion. It's

1936
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: a hard foul. I didn't think there was anything particularly

1937
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: dirty about it or anything else. I think the reaction

1938
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: from Angel Reese was awesome for a pro wrestling heel

1939
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 1: like I felt like there was a little bit of

1940
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: acting there. Yeah, it was a hard foul, but there's

1941
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 1: no reason to react that way. Caitlyn Clark was fouled

1942
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,679
Speaker 1: much harder than that many times last year. Yep, that's

1943
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: not Look we're not playing what about is them here?

1944
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 1: Like this was a pretty hard foul. I'm okay with

1945
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: them upgrading it to a flagrant one. I'm alright with that.

1946
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it was definitely a little bit harder than

1947
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 1: a common foul. But at the same time, it just

1948
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: seemed like it was in the flow of the game.

1949
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 1: And if you heard Caitlyn Clark's point afterwards, She's like, look,

1950
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't just gonna give her the layup, so yeah,

1951
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 1: I went for the basketball. Was gonna put her on

1952
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: the line, and she did miss one of the free throws,

1953
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,879
Speaker 1: by the way, but like you know, she's untucking her jersey.

1954
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: Angel Reese's being held back. It's just like, okay, all right,

1955
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Like you had a moment and you took advantage of it.

1956
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 1: And yes, people are gonna blow this out of proportion

1957
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: because that's what they do, especially when it regards Caitlin Clark.

1958
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: I don't think that it rises to the level of

1959
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 1: the coverage that it will get. But it's great for

1960
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: the WNBA, honestly, like this, this is what they're going

1961
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: to be able to thrive on. If anything, this season's

1962
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: kind of a litmus test to see whether or not

1963
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: there's anything still left. And I do think there's a

1964
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 1: little bit. But you know, the thing about this was

1965
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: it overshadowed a triple double from Caitlin Clark. Sure, it

1966
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: overshadowed a great game that she played, and yees, she

1967
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 1: had a moment where she was playing pretty hard nosed defense,

1968
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 1: just like everybody played defense against her last year. And

1969
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: that's again not to excuse anything. It's just I didn't

1970
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: think there was anything that bad about this. I've seen

1971
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: many fouls in many games, men and women that were

1972
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 1: like this, this is opening Day. And look, it's because

1973
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 1: it's Angel Reese. Like if it's almost anybody else, we're

1974
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 1: not even talking about it. But because it's Angel rees

1975
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: and the way she reacted to it, because she never

1976
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 1: misses a moment to do that. We end up talking

1977
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 1: about it here in the third hour of the program.

1978
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: But I shrugged my shoulders. I went back and watched

1979
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: it a few times. Did Caitlin hit her and make

1980
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 1: sure that she caught her across the ridge? She wanted

1981
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 1: to stop her from making that bucket. There's no question

1982
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 1: about that, which, Look, if you know anything about Angel

1983
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: Reese offensively, she might have missed it even if you

1984
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 1: hadn't fouled her like because she's not particularly adept on

1985
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: the offensive ends. She rebounds the ball really well. We

1986
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 1: know this. But yeah, this is perfect for sports media.

1987
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,799
Speaker 1: It's perfect for fodder, and it's incredibly low hanging fruit.

1988
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: And I just thought it was a foul. Let's keep

1989
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 1: playing basketball.

1990
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 2: Don't disagree. Also, don't disagree with the sentiment that you

1991
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 2: said that, yeah, we're gonna people are gonna try to

1992
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 2: make it a thing on Monday. I just I just

1993
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 2: say there will be moments to get fired up about

1994
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 2: a hard foul in the w NBA this year. I

1995
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,719
Speaker 2: just don't think this is one. Fox Sports Radio air Tours.

1996
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1997
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 2: Do you want to come back? I got a few

1998
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 2: takes on the NFL release schedule release.

1999
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 3: Excuse me.

2000
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 2: We'll get to those in just one moment before we

2001
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 2: do though. Final time this evening, Steve Siger and.

2002
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 4: The games you mentioned this season opener for Indiana and

2003
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 4: the WNBA beating up Chicago ninety three fifty eight not

2004
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 4: only a triple double for Caitlin Clark. It was twenty points,

2005
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 4: ten rebounds, tenn asists and four block shots victories for

2006
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 4: Phoenix and New York as well. The NBA's second Round

2007
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 4: ends on Sunday with a Game seven Denver at Oklahoma City.

2008
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 4: Denver's Aaron Gordon questionable for Sunday with a strained hamstring.

2009
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,759
Speaker 4: In the NHL Playoffs, Dallas ended its second round series

2010
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 4: eliminating Winnipeg in overtime in Game six to Night two

2011
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,679
Speaker 4: to one. The game winning goal came on the power play.

2012
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 4: There's a Game seven in the East Sunday night with

2013
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 4: Florida Toronto. Alex Ovechkin will return to play for Washington

2014
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 4: next season, final year of his current contract. Journalism The

2015
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 4: Favorite won the Preakness coming from behind late Scottie Scheffler leads.

2016
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: To the Journals ever a favorite.

2017
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 4: Not these days, finished second in the Derby and the

2018
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 4: rain better weather here and won Kentucky Derby winner Sovereignty

2019
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 4: did not run. Scotti Scheffler took the PGA Championship lead

2020
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 4: by three strokes after his third round sixty five in Charlotte.

2021
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 4: There was a two and a half hour weather delay

2022
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 4: at the start of round three in the UFL, Michigan

2023
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:12,879
Speaker 4: at six and two won its game at Houston quarterback

2024
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 4: Danny Ettling from Purdue in LSU through three touchdown passes.

2025
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 4: Attendance four thousand for that one. Meanwhile, for Saint Louis,

2026
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,839
Speaker 4: a team that six and two paid, attendance was thirty thousand.

2027
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 4: They got a late TD to win twenty nine twenty

2028
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 4: eight over Birmingham quarterback Max Duggan from TCU with two

2029
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 4: TV runs. The regular season for this Spring Football League

2030
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 4: ends in two weeks on Fox TV. On Fox TV,

2031
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 4: Baseball Tonight at Boston and the Red Sox, in a comeback,

2032
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 4: ended a four game losing streak, beating Atlanta seven six

2033
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 4: on a solo homer in the bottom of the ninth

2034
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 4: by Rafael Devers. The Red Sox trailed six to two

2035
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,480
Speaker 4: in the seventh inning. The Rockies were down at Arizona

2036
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 4: eleven to six after five wound up winning fourteen to twelve.

2037
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,799
Speaker 4: The Rockies on the road had been two to twenty

2038
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 4: one this year. Seattle a four to one winner at

2039
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 4: San Diego, Cal Rawleigh his fifteenth homer. The Giants in

2040
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 4: ten innings won one nothing over the A's on a

2041
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 4: basis loaded walk to Wilmer Flores, who now leads the

2042
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 4: Majors with forty two RBIs. The Angels got the save

2043
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 4: from ex Dodger Kenley Jansen at Dodger Stadium, eleven nine halos,

2044
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,799
Speaker 4: the final eleven men left on base for the Dodgers.

2045
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 4: The loss to reliever Kirby Yates, who left with an

2046
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 4: apparent hamstring injury. The Dodgers already have fifteen pitchers on

2047
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 4: the injury list. Minnesota won its thirteenth straight games, seven

2048
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,879
Speaker 4: nothing at Milwaukee. The Twins have pitched thirty three straight

2049
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 4: scoreless innings. Saint Louis was a one nothing winner at

2050
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 4: Kansas City. The Royals have dropped five in a row.

2051
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 4: There was a home run in the sixth inning for

2052
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 4: the only scoring. The Cards only had two hits in

2053
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 4: the game, but the Royals offense was just four for

2054
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 4: thirty at Texas, ninth home run of the year for Wyatt.

2055
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 4: Langford Rangers beat Houston five to one. Cincinnati struck out

2056
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 4: fifteen times but still won at home against Cleveland four

2057
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 4: to one, Philadelphia five to two over Pittsburgh. The win

2058
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 4: to Zach Wheeler with six scoreless and six strikeouts. Tampa

2059
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 4: Bay won four to nothing at Miami with four runs

2060
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 4: in the seventh victories for the Cubs in Toronto for

2061
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 4: the Mets as well, got a run in the ninth

2062
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 4: to beat the Yankees three too, and Baltimore fired its manager,

2063
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 4: Brandon Hyde, and then went out and lost its fifth

2064
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 4: straight game, ten six to Washington. The losing pitcher for

2065
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 4: the Orioles, Kyle Gibson, is zero and three with an

2066
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 4: ERA of sixteen point seven to eight. He allowed six

2067
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 4: runs in the first inning.

2068
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 3: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager, have

2069
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 3: a great, great and great evening.

2070
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:33,719
Speaker 2: Hey are you back tomorrow night? I am back, Arnie Spent.

2071
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,600
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, everybody's taking vacation. Desager was kicking his

2072
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 2: feet up in the sand on the beach and.

2073
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 4: Actually there's not much sand on the beach with Lake

2074
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 4: tom mostly grass, but very enjoyable.

2075
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 3: I'm glad you got away. I'm jealous. I'll be getting

2076
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 3: away here these next game.

2077
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 4: It's beautiful, but there is no point around Lake Tahoe

2078
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:53,639
Speaker 4: where there's not an incredible view.

2079
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 2: It was sensational, and you said the first time that

2080
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 2: you've ever been there, right, amazing for someone who's a

2081
01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 2: lifelong resident of this state.

2082
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 4: Driver fly we drove, which was a big advantage. Six

2083
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 4: hour drive or so, yeah, about six and a half.

2084
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 3: It was.

2085
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 4: It was an advantage to have a car. I'll say that, yes,

2086
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 4: but you can also take tours and such. Recommend j

2087
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 4: mart if you ever get a chance. I don't know

2088
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:14,919
Speaker 4: if you've ever been to Lake Tahoe, but it is beautiful.

2089
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 4: I was there for a summer wedding, so I was

2090
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,719
Speaker 4: here there around the same time you were.

2091
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 3: It is it is every day.

2092
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 4: I passed the golf course where the celebrity golf is

2093
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 4: every summer at Edgewood, which is right on the edge

2094
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 4: of the border of Nevada and California, right by the lake.

2095
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 2: Sensational awesome, well the sagarette Grade even. Yes, I am

2096
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:33,719
Speaker 2: in with Chris Plank tomorrow, Arnie.

2097
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 3: God only knows where that man is.

2098
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 4: He gave himself the night off.

2099
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I gave himself the night off, so good

2100
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 3: for him. Yeah, he is off.

2101
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 2: So I will be in with Plank tomorrow with the

2102
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Sagas on Fox Sports Radio Er Tours. Jason Martin taking

2103
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 2: it till two am.

2104
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 1: J Martin.

2105
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 2: NFL schedule release this week you know, listen, I get

2106
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 2: into it, but I also listen, I also understand anybody

2107
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 2: that doesn't want to overreact to this. You know, we

2108
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 2: get so excited in the here and now. First of all,

2109
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 2: everybody knows that the actual games, we already know who

2110
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 2: everybody is playing. It's just a matter of where they

2111
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 2: fall in the schedule. The other thing is you just

2112
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 2: never know what's gonna happen. You know, you don't root

2113
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 2: for injuries, but stuff happens. Teams under tea underachieved, teams overachieve.

2114
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 2: But I do want to share some thoughts and overall reactions.

2115
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what Mary. Give us a little

2116
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 2: bit of music, put us in the mood.

2117
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 1: J Mart.

2118
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 2: If you have a first thought on the schedule, you're

2119
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 2: more than welcome to share it. I have a couple,

2120
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 2: but I'll give you the floor first.

2121
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: If you want me to go Okay, yeah, you go ahead.

2122
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 2: So I found this interesting, J Mart, and I want

2123
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: your perspective on it, because I think there are two

2124
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 2: ways to look at this.

2125
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 3: The Kansas City.

2126
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:54,879
Speaker 2: Chiefs, you may have heard of them, so this is interesting.

2127
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 2: Before the before thereby, their bye is in the second

2128
01:46:58,880 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 2: week of October.

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Speaker 3: They play the Chargers, the Eagles, the Ravens, the Lions,

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01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 3: the Commanders, and the Bills. It's a lot of tough

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01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 3: games Chargers, Eagles, Ravens, Lions, Commanders, and Bills. But I

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01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 3: also bring that up to say, of those one, two, three, four, five,

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01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 3: six marquee games, a grand total of one of them

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01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 3: is a true road game.

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Speaker 2: That is the Bills on November two. They play the

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01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 2: Chargers in Brazil to open the season on that Friday.

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01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 2: Then Eagles at home, Ravens at home, Lions at home,

2138
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 2: Commanders at home, Bills on the road. So on the

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01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 2: one hand, if you believe that the Super Bowl was

2140
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:54,480
Speaker 2: a microcosm of a team that has all sorts of flaws,

2141
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 2: you could talk yourself into three four losses pretty early

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01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 2: in the season. The counter is, if you believe that

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01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 2: everything is rigged in favor of the Chiefs, if you're

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01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 2: gonna play those games, getting virtually all of them at

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01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:09,879
Speaker 2: Arrowhead is certainly a storyline.

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01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if you make anything of that, but

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01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 3: I find that interesting.

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01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, but that's definitely interesting. I Mean, again, there's

2149
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people that think that the fix is

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01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 1: in for the Chiefs, as often as possible. It's kind

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01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,839
Speaker 1: of become a common refrain. So this will give them fodder.

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01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 1: But you know, every once in a while you'll see this.

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01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: We talked about the forty nine Ers schedule. That thing's

2154
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 1: a joke comparatively, Then you look at like the Giants

2155
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 1: and its murders row out here. And even if you

2156
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: look at Dallas, Dallas has a stretch.

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01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 3: Oh, it's crazy, kind of.

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01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 1: Around Thanksgiving time, not gonna be fun at all. When

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01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: you go Philly, Kansas City at Detroit, Minnesota, Los Angeles

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01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 1: Chargers at Commanders, that's right, that's Christmas Day at Commanders.

2161
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 1: So like, once you get past Tom Brady's writers, you

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01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 1: get basically six games in a row where it's very

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01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: feasible that you could lose all of them.

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01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 2: I believe this stat I saw was the first team

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01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:18,799
Speaker 2: ever to draw four straight teams that won fourteen games

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01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 2: or more the season before.

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01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:22,759
Speaker 3: That's kind of wild.

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Speaker 2: And then if you factor in yeah, and then you

2169
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 2: factor the Chargers and Commanders, I think the Chargers won

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01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 2: maybe eleven.

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01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 3: I have to look it up.

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01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:33,799
Speaker 2: The Commanders won twelve in the regular season. The Chargers

2173
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 2: last year won eleven. So you have a five games

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01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 2: a six game stretch. Excuse me, right in the middle

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01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:45,599
Speaker 2: of the season, where, to your point, you face six

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01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,839
Speaker 2: straight teams that won eleven games last year, four straight

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01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 2: that won fourteen straight.

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Speaker 3: So that's tough.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, Jmart. This is another thing that I

2180
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 2: take away from this, and I don't think that it's

2181
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 2: ever gonna change. But because I get that they are

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01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 2: the Cowboys second most primetime games outside of the Kansas City.

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01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 3: Chiefs, I just you know, on the one hand, they're

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Speaker 3: America's team.

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01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 2: They're a huge straw, and I will say they're like

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01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 2: the one team outside of maybe Kansas City that you

2187
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 2: love to make fun of when they're struggling or when

2188
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 2: they lose or whatever. I feel like last year though,

2189
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 2: and it wasn't just because Dak got hurt in but

2190
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 2: they were awful, and I think people just checked out

2191
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 2: on them. Like I just I get you have these

2192
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:38,839
Speaker 2: huge brands, but sometimes the huge brand is so bad

2193
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 2: that it's just not a story. And I think we're

2194
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: there with the Cowboys. So again, I'm not saying you

2195
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 2: bury them in the one Eastern game every single week,

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01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 2: especially when they're playing the Eagles, when they're playing the

2197
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 2: Chiefs when they're playing even the Commanders, who of course

2198
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 2: are intriguing. But you know, Sunday Night against the Vikings, Okay,

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01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. I just I think we're

2200
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,719
Speaker 2: gonna look up in like Week eight and they're gonna

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01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 2: be irrelevant and we're gonna have a million standalone games again,

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01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 2: and we're just gonna say, why do we keep doing this?

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01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I'm under selling the Cowboys. I

2204
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 3: don't know.

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01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: It's all about the ratings. It's all about the numbers,

2206
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 1: and so we'll have to crunch them and see whether

2207
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 1: or not the interest is there if the team is

2208
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: as mediocres we think they're gonna be. So we've talked

2209
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 1: a good bit about that division. Now we talked about Dallas,

2210
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 1: the schedule and the fact that I just don't think

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01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 1: there would be all that good. And if you look

2212
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: at the Giants, I mentioned earlier that they had a

2213
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:40,879
Speaker 1: really rough schedule. I mean they go Cowboys, Chiefs, Chargers,

2214
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 1: then they get the Saints, but then they go Philly

2215
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:49,799
Speaker 1: at Denver, at Philly, San Francisco at Chicago, Green Bay

2216
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 1: at Detroit, and then you go to New England, which

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01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 1: I think with Vrabel is gonna be a different story,

2218
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 1: and then you play Washington and then you play Minnesota.

2219
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 1: Like good if it just keeps going like from October

2220
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 1: the ninth through December the twenty first, like all of

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01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: those are losable games for the New York Giants. And

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01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: my question is how soon is Jackson dart in it's

2223
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, because I don't think it's gonna take very

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01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 1: long at all.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you said from October ninth on before

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01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 2: October ninth at Washington Chiefs Chargers, Like, it's not like

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01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 2: it's easy before October ninth.

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01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just kind of I cut it off

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01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: because the Saints were before the Eagles, and so I

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01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 1: wanted to like say, all right, really, there's nothing after

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01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 1: that Saints game that I would want to play if

2232
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 1: I was a Giants fan based on how they played

2233
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 1: last year. But yes, the whole schedule is just crazy hard.

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01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 3: Just one quick thing because we got to get to

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Speaker 3: it and wrap the show.

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Speaker 2: Dolphins five primetime games, six standalone games? Did Dan Marino unretire?

2237
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 2: Did I miss something? Is Don Shula walking through that door?

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01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,560
Speaker 2: Five standalone games for the Dolphins?

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01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't want why man Arnie's gonna be really excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, until they go one in four in those games.

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01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, And it's what it's Cincinnati at Pittsburgh.

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01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,839
Speaker 1: They have the game, and I guess was that London

2243
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 1: probably somewhere overseas they're playing against Washington. And then they've

2244
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:30,679
Speaker 1: got the Bills. Let's see this guy. They got the Jets.

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01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,440
Speaker 1: That's another standalone. Yeah, they got a lot and Baltimore

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01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 1: they got five stand alone? Is it six? Is that

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01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 1: what you said? That's insane.

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01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe the stet that I saw six standalone games,

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01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:41,600
Speaker 2: five in primetime.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I didn't look this up beforehand.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the Jets have a disproportional number of

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01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 2: standalone slash primetime games. I'm sorry the Jets. The Jets

2253
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 2: should be in the Tennessee Titans, New Orleans Saints. Never

2254
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 2: in a standalone I don't care if it's New York.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be so bad.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Errators, Jason Martin, we'll come back, wrap

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Speaker 2: the show, look ahead to Game seven Sunday. That's next

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports thirty. Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio aeratoris

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. Broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: We're taking you up till two am Eastern, eleven minutes

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01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 2: from now. Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show follows us.

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Speaker 2: Cannot wait to hear what Bernie has to say about

2264
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 2: a wild, wild week in sports. J Mark guess we

2265
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 2: should hit on the big topic of Sunday. We all

2266
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 2: know what that's gonna be. We got ourselves a game

2267
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Speaker 2: seven NBA Playoffs Denver at Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon.

2269
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Speaker 2: We will see what his status is for people who

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01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 2: are just joining us, we talked about it to lead

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01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 2: the show. By the way, should mention I should mention this.

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01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 2: Shortly after our show, the podcast will be going up.

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01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,600
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2274
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:05,040
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2275
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,560
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2276
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,120
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2277
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

2278
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Speaker 2: and you'll see tonight's show right after we get off air.

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Speaker 2: All right, So, as I was saying, okay, see hosting Denver.

2280
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 2: The big story Aaron Gordon strain Hamstring listed as questionable

2281
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 2: for that game. Points spread that I'm currently seeing is

2282
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 2: eight points. Thunder are favored. What do you think of

2283
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 2: this game?

2284
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 3: Jmart?

2285
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 2: Obviously, the game is in Oklahoma City three point thirty

2286
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 2: Eastern time on Sunday.

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01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm a thunderfan. I'm scared just because it's game seven

2288
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: to eightything can happen. That's a team that's won a championship,

2289
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 1: and they've got an MVP level player obviously in Jokich,

2290
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 1: and they have Murray who can just be He can

2291
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 1: be lethal in clutch situations in the postseason. I'm gonna

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01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 1: pick my guys. I picked him before the season or

2293
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,920
Speaker 1: before the seas. I stick with that. I knew it

2294
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be an easy series. Still could very much

2295
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 1: be wrong on this. You can go with experience, and

2296
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 1: I think you're in good company if you do. I

2297
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 1: think that it makes a lot of sense if you

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01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 1: wanted to go that route. I just feel like I

2299
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 1: think Oklahoma City, in their building, I think their role

2300
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 1: players show up for him more than the opposite. And

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01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 1: I think the Gordon absence, assuming he's not able to play,

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01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: or even if he's completely hampered and he's just not himself,

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01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 1: they need him and not having him for this game

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01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: I think is a big time advantage for Oklahoma City

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01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 1: for sure. So I do like the thunder. I would

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01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 1: probably not take that number, though I think that may

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01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 1: be tighter than that.

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01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take Oklahoma City as well. I think the

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01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 2: thing that stands out to me two things. One, it's

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01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 2: the obvious Aaron Gordon, you know, your defensive stopper guy

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01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 2: who's played very well offensively as well. Even if he

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01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 2: is in that game, it's hard to imagine him being

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01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 2: at one hundred percent having to chase down all those

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01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 2: guys for Oklahoma City. The other thing I was thinking

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01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 2: about as we were getting ready for the show jmart

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01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 2: is first of all, Denver of course coming off a

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01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 2: seven game series last round. But in this series, you

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01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:18,879
Speaker 2: look at the three Denver wins. Game one, they trailed

2319
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 2: by what I think it was something I looked it up.

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01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 2: I think it was something like eight points, was seven

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01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 2: minutes to go or something.

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01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 3: They rally to.

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01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 2: Win Game one, and then they win game what was

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01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 2: a game four, Game three and overtime, and that's in

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01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 2: this series. So really, either you know, of the two

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01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 2: of the three wins for Denver could have gone either way,

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01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 2: so Airic Gordon at less than one hundred percent, plus

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01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 2: two close wins a couple of blowout losses, I will

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01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 2: take okay See to win this series. By the way,

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Speaker 2: you think either one of these matches up better or

2331
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 2: worse with Minnesota As Minnesota awaits Game one of the

2332
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals will be Tuesday night. Either either team

2333
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 2: you think has an advantage or disadvantage against Minnesota.

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01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, that's I mean, that's a good question. I

2335
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 1: don't know that I have a strong takeaway on that.

2336
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma City and they play pretty tenacious defense

2337
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 1: as well. I think that just based on what I

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01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 1: saw in the last series from Minnesota, I feel like

2339
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 1: if Oklahoma City can force the issue offensively, that is

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01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: going to cause Minnesota some issues. Go Beart is going

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Speaker 1: to have to be pretty critical on the inside, but

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Speaker 1: they can make a ton of buckets and SGA. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure exactly who covers them. NASA RED is going

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Speaker 1: to be really necessary for Minnesota. I think Oklahoma City

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Speaker 1: matches up well with them, but I kind of think

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Speaker 1: Denver probably would most would do pretty well too. I

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Speaker 1: think that Oklahoma City is probably a worst matchup for Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: just because it's going to force them to be more

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Speaker 1: athletic and go up and down faster.

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Speaker 2: Game one Tuesday night, By the way, Game three will

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Speaker 2: be next Saturday at a thirty Eastern, so we'll be

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Speaker 2: coming off live after that. We got about twenty seconds

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Speaker 2: Knicks Pacers. You have any favorite in that one?

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Speaker 1: Man, here's my take. I didn't give you my bold

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Speaker 1: take on that series. Somebody's getting suspended during the two.

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be an absolute brawl in one

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Speaker 1: of these games. I think this is going to be

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Speaker 1: one of those series we're gonna be talking about. Mark

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Speaker 1: my words, it's going to be physical and it's going

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Speaker 1: to cross the line.

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Speaker 3: Tell you what, Jamart, we got to get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank the crew, Mary mack on the board,

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Speaker 2: producer Brie, Steve Desager, for my partner Jason Martin. I'm Arataurus.

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Speaker 2: Make sure to download the podcast. Bernie Friddo next Fox Sports.

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Speaker 3: Are you