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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast Breaks the Internet. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: Roseatal What up, boys, Hey damn, I get that cultural

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Speaker 1: I don't know, why would I know? You picked the

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Speaker 1: win this game to go, Well, that's how I operate.

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Speaker 1: I told you I'm gonna hedge my own bets. And

428
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Speaker 1: who's sitting on top the picks standing with Dan Hansas, Well,

429
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Speaker 1: we were talking about Mark's decision to pick the cards

430
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Speaker 1: and to pick them to lose out. It was we

431
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Speaker 1: decided it was subversive. It was Mark turning the industry

432
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Speaker 1: on its here and saying, don't take me seriously, or

433
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Speaker 1: would you? Mark Sessler iconoclassed. I think it's called think differently.

434
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Speaker 1: He's got a surprising machiavellan street. I think it's more

435
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Speaker 1: of an absurdist streak. You're just pointing out how ridiculous

436
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Speaker 1: any of these picks are. No one cares except for us.

437
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Speaker 1: You're right, all these things are correct. Conzo kaufmanla Marks

438
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Speaker 1: so close to just walking into the wilderness for real forever.

439
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Speaker 1: I got three more weeks. I'm winning this picks thing,

440
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna walk right into the sunset. Would be

441
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Speaker 1: a would we win? Could we call that a dynasty?

442
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Speaker 1: You won the first year, I won the second year.

443
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Speaker 1: So if you could get two out of three, that's

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Speaker 1: big for your Like t D behind the Glass, how

445
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Speaker 1: you're doing by getting close? Good? How's the cave of sadness,

446
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 1: sound effects coming along, by the way, the Cave of sadness? Yeah,

447
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: did you do you? Did you already forget? Mark Sessler

448
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Speaker 1: quiet storm? I have to do more work now his

449
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: voice was more. I totally forgot. What is the cave

450
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Speaker 1: of sadness? Again, that's no idea where you're talking about it.

451
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: You probably don't like maybe it was an episode. He

452
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Speaker 1: wasn't here, like half of them. Might have been the

453
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Speaker 1: doctor appointment. We'll go off line to talk about that.

454
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Speaker 1: But basically, there's now a map similar to Game of Thrones,

455
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Speaker 1: because you have the Mark's wilderness of happiness and curiosity,

456
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: West's stable of boys, you have Greg's stable of boys.

457
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Speaker 1: I don't have, and yeah you got you got a

458
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Speaker 1: little stable of boys. And then of course the cave

459
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Speaker 1: of sadness, which various teams walk through. The Browns are

460
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Speaker 1: there right now. The Jets have been there all season.

461
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Speaker 1: What does Dan half? I don't have anything. It's a

462
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Speaker 1: lot of hair care product, a lot of hair care products.

463
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Speaker 1: I do have something. Let me think about that. I

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Speaker 1: kind of operate the Cave of sadness, though, I go alright,

465
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Speaker 1: moving on elsewhere in the division, the best five and

466
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Speaker 1: seven team in the NFL history became the best six

467
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Speaker 1: and seven to NFL history, as the Rams recorded at

468
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Speaker 1: twenty four nothing win over the lowly Redskins in d C.

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Speaker 1: That's back to back shutouts for St. Louis and their

470
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Speaker 1: coach Jeff Fisher, who delivered one of the great tweak

471
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Speaker 1: jobs in NFL history. Before kickoff, Chris Westling tell us

472
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Speaker 1: about it, picture me trolling. It was the best troll

473
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Speaker 1: job ever. He sent out all six of the players

474
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Speaker 1: acquired from the Russell uh from the Robert Griffin the

475
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Speaker 1: third trade as the coin toss captains entire Redskins organization?

476
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Speaker 1: Did the Redskins You think even noticed that was happening?

477
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: You know how? I know they didn't notice, though, because

478
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: whoever is operating the Vine account gleefully put up the

479
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Speaker 1: whole midfield encounter and we used it for our story.

480
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Speaker 1: Is probably taken down by now, but we used it

481
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Speaker 1: because they had no idea. They couldn't have been unless

482
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Speaker 1: they're so against r G three in that building. Now

483
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Speaker 1: that they're all in, I'm sure Griffin doesn't love the

484
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Speaker 1: little tweak job there. I wouldn't feel that good if

485
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Speaker 1: I were play better. It's one thing that trolling by

486
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Speaker 1: sending the cap then doubt and it's another thing to

487
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Speaker 1: do it and then shut your team out while Robert

488
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Speaker 1: Griffin the third is watching Colt McCoy and then has

489
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Speaker 1: to come in and mop up time. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's ultimate talk about cave of s. Can I just

491
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Speaker 1: say one thing though, by the way, like there are

492
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Speaker 1: some nice players that came out to midfield, Well let's

493
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Speaker 1: come down rams too, Like it's not like you went

494
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Speaker 1: turned into a dynasty off that trade. And these guys

495
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Speaker 1: are the sixth greatest players in NFL history. About typical

496
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: less talk about greatness stuff like how about real greatness.

497
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Speaker 1: Let's win some let's compile a winning record, then we

498
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Speaker 1: can start throwing our selection of players out at midfield

499
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Speaker 1: and downing teams in late December. Well they're gonna do

500
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Speaker 1: they are gonna do it. They're gonna win, win out,

501
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Speaker 1: go nine and seven. This team that West has been doubting,

502
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Speaker 1: you know, well, they're a franchise quarterback away from being

503
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Speaker 1: a contender, legit, like a Super Bowl. Yea, they are.

504
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: They are very over the last six weeks. Their first

505
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Speaker 1: I think in takeaways, in second, in sacks, they have

506
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Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the NFL is greg

507
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Speaker 1: it's hard to out. Yeah, I mean what they're doing.

508
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: They dropped a fifty nothing bomb a week ago. You

509
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: know how hard it is. This first back to back

510
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: shutouts for this franchise since they were the nineteen Cleveland Rams. Wow.

511
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Speaker 1: And by the way, the Colt McCoy redemption angle is

512
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Speaker 1: that officially been put to rest. He's exactly who we

513
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Speaker 1: thought he was, a third string quarterback who might might

514
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Speaker 1: be good enough to be a backup, but certainly it's

515
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Speaker 1: not a starter. Well, we should point out he heard

516
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Speaker 1: his neck late in this game. He had to go

517
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Speaker 1: to the hospital afterwards to get it evaluated. So there's

518
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Speaker 1: a very good chance that Robert Griffin the third will

519
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Speaker 1: be starting the last three games, starting Kirk Cousins. And

520
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Speaker 1: we said that a few weeks ago quarterback and he

521
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Speaker 1: got r G three gotten this game at the very end.

522
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Speaker 1: Did he throw the ball at orrow? Is it more

523
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Speaker 1: just running out the clocks? And he completed three or

524
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Speaker 1: four passes and to the surprise of no one took

525
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Speaker 1: a sack. Yeah, it was just running it out basically.

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Speaker 1: In terms of most oppressed fan bases right now and

527
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Speaker 1: as a jet span. We're definitely in the running in

528
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Speaker 1: terms of just the season alone. Redskins fans haven't real bad.

529
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Speaker 1: A lot of these embarrassing moments are happening in their building.

530
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Speaker 1: They just the whole thing is like a disaster. They

531
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Speaker 1: especially after what they did last year, that you can

532
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: double down and have a more embarrassing season this year.

533
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: They've had to go from thinking you have the guy

534
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Speaker 1: in Robert Griven the third to what he is now

535
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Speaker 1: and you don't have those picks and you don't have

536
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Speaker 1: a coach. I mean, they might be at the top

537
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Speaker 1: for for the most hapless franchises. The most embarrassing moment

538
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Speaker 1: of the day today was Tavon Austin's punt return touchdown

539
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: made it to nothing late in the third quarter, and

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Speaker 1: the home crowd started chanting for r G three, apparently

541
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Speaker 1: having forgotten the last two games. R G three plays

542
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Speaker 1: almost as bad as when the forty Niners crowd chanted

543
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Speaker 1: for David Carr to come in when Troy Smith was

544
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. That was a low moment. Elsewhere in the

545
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Speaker 1: NFC West, there was only one team that lost in

546
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Speaker 1: the division on Sunday. Who would have thought it could

547
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Speaker 1: have been the team playing the freaking Raiders. The forty

548
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Speaker 1: Niners laid an epic egg at the black hole, falling

549
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Speaker 1: to seven, seven and six afterteen loss. This is the

550
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Speaker 1: same Raiders team who lost fifty two nothing last week. Mark,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a serious question here, so I

552
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: would like a serious answer. Is it time to fork?

553
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: I'd be fine doing that After watching that game today,

554
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Speaker 1: my takeaway was that when Greg Roman and Harbaugh hit

555
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Speaker 1: San Francisco and developed that offense into what it was

556
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Speaker 1: a couple of seasons ago, I thought for myself they

557
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: were the most fun creative team to watch on that

558
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Speaker 1: side of the ball. They are boring, They stink, and

559
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: they are boring. So you were happy with this outcome.

560
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: I know you were staying in the newsroom. What you

561
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: did not want was to see the forty Niners in

562
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and you'd have to watch that. I think

563
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: they're a shell of their former selves in the sense

564
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: they can't overpower teams with the run. Their passing game

565
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: looks completely We talked about Seattle's as a no structure

566
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Speaker 1: passing game. I see nothing in San Francisco that suggests

567
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: anything that can't build rhythm I mean, Derek Carr flat

568
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: out out played Colin Kaepernick. Very interesting timing coming right

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Speaker 1: off the article that West wrote last week about running

570
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks struggling and five executives saying they'd rather have Car

571
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Speaker 1: than Kaepernick. I don't know if that's premature, but looking

572
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: at what happened today, Kaepernick is a big concern and

573
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: the entire offense seems lost. Jim Harbaugh is out right

574
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to start over with a new

575
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Speaker 1: coach and a new offensive coordinator. Hard Rock can go

576
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: coach up Car. Maybe he was one of the five

577
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Speaker 1: executives take he's gotta he had to be watching this

578
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Speaker 1: game thing, and all right, this isn't so bad. I

579
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Speaker 1: will say that. You know, there's some big surprise storylines

580
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Speaker 1: this season. I think r G S three's collapse into

581
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Speaker 1: the Abyss into the Cave of sadness is one. I

582
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: think the Saints of struggles the season is another Colin

583
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Speaker 1: Kaepernick like etching into just another guy status is to

584
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Speaker 1: me personally stunning. I never saw it coming. I think

585
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Speaker 1: part of it is their line is not what it

586
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: was and they simply cannot impose their will with the

587
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Speaker 1: running game. When you can do those two. When those

588
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: two things are intact, a lot of your quarterbacks in

589
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: the league look a lot better. They have no idea

590
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: seven and seven. It's gonna be a fun couple of

591
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Speaker 1: weeks that may be prophetic. They play, the Seahawks, are

592
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna end their season, and the gym hardball era in

593
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Speaker 1: San Francisco. I think hardball wisely is getting out of

594
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: there at the right time. Though, to be honest, if

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Speaker 1: I get I mean, I don't know, if it's his choice,

596
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: their choice, whatever, you still don't want to go out

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Speaker 1: like this. But we we talked it's not like it's

598
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Speaker 1: a total shock. We we've talked about this before the

599
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: season that if there's gonna be a team that's kind

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Speaker 1: of embroiled in dysfunction and misses the playoff, that's been

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Speaker 1: a top that perch, that this is kind of the

602
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Speaker 1: prime candidate. And that's what's happened. Alright, So the Niners

603
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: loss is the Lions gain. In NFC playoff race, Detroit

604
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: delivered a balance that effort against the bad Bucks team

605
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: taking care of business in the sev win. To talk

606
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: about the Lions, we need to get on the line

607
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: or Chicago correspondent, the man that spends a lot of

608
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Speaker 1: time in the gym and a lot of time watching

609
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Speaker 1: football film and then you know, if people get out

610
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Speaker 1: of line, he takes care of business to catch by drift.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick coming at you. What up, body, Dan? It's

612
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Speaker 1: so great to hear your voice. Now I know, and

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Speaker 1: now I know how Ringo Star felt when they led

614
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: him talk to John Lennons like that. I really like

615
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: the analogy. Yeah, maybe you're definitely hotter than Ringo Star.

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Speaker 1: A lot of looks talk today on there on the NFL. Yeah,

617
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Speaker 1: So anyway, Patrick's the Packers or excuse me, the Lions

618
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 1: broke a nine game December losing streak. Here are they

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Speaker 1: going to avoid that late season fade this time around? Well,

620
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Speaker 1: this was a game that I was at. They lost

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Speaker 1: to this same Bucks team last year, and this was

622
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Speaker 1: a game that I was kind of a trap team

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Speaker 1: that I was thinking that they could totally just come

624
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Speaker 1: on and bomb, and they took care of business. And

625
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: it started with your defensive line and Dom can sue

626
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Speaker 1: I'll lead the team in tackles with six and was

627
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: always in the backfield off the sack. Their defensive line

628
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Speaker 1: just destroyed poor Josh McCown actually felt bad for the guy.

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Speaker 1: He was getting hit. Literally every time he dropped back,

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Speaker 1: he was getting malled. So you're saying this Buck's passing

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Speaker 1: game in this offense, maybe not a great look there

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Speaker 1: with without Jeff Tedford in the mix. As Greg shoots

633
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: daggers at Chris Westling. Wow, that doesn't seem necessary. No,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't that. I'm just the Lions defense against the

635
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: Bucks passing game might be the biggest mismatch in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It was a great point by Well, it's really up front.

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Speaker 1: I mean Vincent Jackson had a hundred fifty yards, like

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Speaker 1: Kevan said, two touchdowns and had multiple got multiple penalties

639
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: past interferiance penalties. When mccolluan got rid of the ball,

640
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: had time to get rid of it. His his receivers

641
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: made plays, but he just didn't have enough time in

642
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: the running games. Absolute crap. Reggie Bush comes back, but

643
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: he's not really the main running back. It's Joke Bell,

644
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: who I think has been running great. How did Bush

645
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: look back on the field, Like, does that concern you

646
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: at all? Uh? First of all, I wouldn't say Joy

647
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: Bell has been great. I think he's been very good

648
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: in the second half of the seasons. All right, you've

649
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: been okay. He gets one run of game, which did

650
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: today when Slavante David was out. He had a bus

651
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: at a fifty seven yard but they only had fifty

652
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: six yards on thirty other carries. Reggie had one twelve

653
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: yard game. The rest of the time it was two yards.

654
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: In fall, they tried to get him more involved in

655
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: the screen game. He had a couple of passes, didn't

656
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: really do much. He couldn't break a tackle. So, Patrick,

657
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: if you are a Bucks fan, I would feel bad

658
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: for anyone who is at this point outside of Mike Evans.

659
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: Give me something that the fan base can say there's

660
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: some promise here. I mean, it is a disaster down there.

661
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I really couldn't. That would be

662
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: my go to is Evans and Jackson. They're great hair together.

663
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: Other than that, I mean Gerald McCoy and Lavante David. Yet,

664
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you have some you have a couple of

665
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: pieces there, maybe three pieces that you could build around.

666
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: And also they could have the number one pick in

667
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: the draft there one if I believe, five or maybe

668
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: six teams now at two and eleven with three games,

669
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: to play. I think I think that love you Smiths

670
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: deef is mistake with the talent, with what they have,

671
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it works. And I think Megatron kind

672
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: of prove that today, second week in a row. He's

673
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: over a hundred forty yards just getting cushion, easy, easy

674
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: pitching catch. Matthew Staff didn't mean that to look to

675
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: golden tape because his number one option was open almost

676
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: every place. Johnson being Johnson again is a big deal, right,

677
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean they've the Lions to me, are one of

678
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: the more predictable teams in the league. They're pretty consistent.

679
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they beat the bad teams. They look exactly

680
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: what you think they are, which is like the eleventh

681
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: best team in the league that's gonna make the playoffs

682
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: and then lose to a better team in the playoffs.

683
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: But these last two weeks, to put up thirty four

684
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: seventeen wins against bad teams, it's very good, signed because

685
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: that's all they really need to do to make the playoffs. Alright,

686
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: Patrick's shoulder day. Go get to work, buddy, all right,

687
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: that's tomorrow. Thanks um Hey t D. By the way,

688
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: what's happening? Megatron feeling himself again, he might get to

689
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: that not too late. It's never too late, all right,

690
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: Let's swing over to the wide open, utterly bizarre NFC South.

691
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: The New Orleans States have now lost four straight games

692
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: at the Super super Dome, and this time it was

693
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: a total embarrassment. The Panthers whooped him to move into

694
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: the thick of the division race. Um, I would say this,

695
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: and and Greg, because you love noms so much, I'll

696
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: say this to you, and you give me your opinion.

697
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: Outside of bounty Gate, this is the low point of

698
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: the Sean Payton era NOLA. It's gotta be right, Yes,

699
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. I mean, they weren't throwing bottles from

700
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: the upper deck or booing lust the lee before halftime,

701
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: after halftime that I can think of it any other

702
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: time now that whole bounty gate season, that's a pretty

703
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: big low. You can't just throw that out, well, I said,

704
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: Other than that, you're like, I covered myself there, Dan

705
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: asked us downstairs. I mean, Sean Payton, is there a

706
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: chance he doesn't coach this team next season? There have been,

707
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, speculation from people that maybe he could be

708
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: elsewhere like Dallas if that job came open. I think

709
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: it would be more him wanting to get out. Then

710
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way that ownership would want

711
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: to get ridish on Payton just because of one disasters year.

712
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: This was so bad and this was a game that

713
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: was a complete one sided affair from the kickoff on.

714
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: And if you're the if you're the Panthers, if you're

715
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: a Panthers fan and you're excited about the team back

716
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: in the race, I kind of get it. Because Cam

717
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: Newton looked like Cam Newton again, Uh West, I think

718
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: you call he looked like a preening Schmo as well.

719
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: After his Superman score that touched off behind the end,

720
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: he went back. He went a little over the top,

721
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: not just that throughout the game because they were they

722
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: have the game in hand. He was really enjoying himself.

723
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: But you know he deserved that. He was glad he

724
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: got hit. He played one of the best games in

725
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: recent memory for him. He threw three touchdown passes, no interceptions,

726
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: added eighty three yards in the ground and a touchdown.

727
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: And you know, this is a Saints team that ran

728
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: for or a Panthers team that ran for two seven

729
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: one yards on the road. Jonathan like last year's formula. Yeah,

730
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Stewart looked awesome again. He had a sixty

731
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: nine yard touchdown run on the in the first minute

732
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: of the second half that basically put the game away,

733
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: made it thirty one three UH Saints offense again. This

734
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: is a week after Drew Brees through four UH five touchdowns. Again,

735
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: no connection with Jimmy Graham, which was odd. He's not

736
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: healthy and they left him in the game the whole game.

737
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was to get some stats

738
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: at the end, but he was taking shots and they

739
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: kept him in the game. I found that was weird.

740
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: The stats is all bad, bad vibes around this team

741
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: and it's not looking good. I think it's cooler we're

742
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna get a six win playoff team. I mean, I

743
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: really do. What did it say about paddle boat Ron

744
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: and Mike Schuler that it took a D'angelia Williams injury

745
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: to find out that the best running back on the

746
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: roster is Jonathan Stewart. Yeah, it's annoying, but they are

747
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: running the ball well. They did it. They did it

748
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: well against Minnesota, they did it against New Orleans. They

749
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: get Tampa next week. They've got a shot. Then they

750
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: have Cleveland in Carolina, and then they're at Atlanta. We've

751
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: been saying that Atlanta New Orleans game is going to

752
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: decide the NFC South and I still think it will.

753
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: But if Atlanta could go to New Orleans and win,

754
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: then maybe it's that Atlanta Carolina game that the sides

755
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: in weeks that here's an interesting scenario. What if this

756
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: NFC South doormat hosts a playoff game against Drew Stanton.

757
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that's very well. Have six foot could

758
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: could go into the second round of the playoffs. Can

759
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 1: can we just give the team that's going to play

760
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: them the next week the bye the bye? They just

761
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: wipe them out. Give the winner of that NFC that

762
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: would meet them, just take them out, give them the win,

763
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: move them on to the saved air afair save on

764
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, structural costs. I'm just trying

765
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: to save money. I'm like company Man's good. Yes, no,

766
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: the sound principle of just saving cash and doe by

767
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: not even having that game occurs. It is nice. And

768
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: by the way, the four Committee is going to get

769
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: together I think Monday about six am in a conference

770
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: room is gonna be Danish and coffee some other things.

771
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: But again, I'm gonna throw it out there. I am

772
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: nominating the New Orleans Saints to just so to work

773
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: the entire division, just fork the entire division. Well then

774
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Gregg have to give to a charity again. Well that's good, Greg,

775
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: More to talk about it. Oh you know, whenever I

776
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: could think about people in need and I could step

777
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: in and make a play, I'll do it. I'm just

778
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that all those articles this week talking

779
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: about the Saints running the table were made to look

780
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: as stupid as they should have. I totally messed up. Guys,

781
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: we keep going. I just like a little music in

782
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: the background of night. Yeah, why not? I mean, that's

783
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: a great song, obviously, it's a classic, just Dylan Joe Sacchiani. Alright,

784
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: let's move on. You might as well just keep the

785
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: music on now, keeping it all right? Good? Uh? Gyros

786
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: writes eighty seven yard touchdown reception gyros Wright. Jus, excuse me,

787
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: excuse me, Gyrus. Now, now we're really putting you to work.

788
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: I can't do a couple of things. And once guy,

789
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: too much TDA right now? So Jarrius writes eighty seven

790
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: yard touchdown reception from Teddy Bridgewater and overtime. Now you

791
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: pull the music out, fading it out. I'm just starting

792
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: to read. I'm just starting the read of the game. Mysterious.

793
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: Just do the job, We'll go, Jarius writes. Eighty seven

794
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: yard touchdown reception from Teddy Bridgewater and overtime gave the

795
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings a thirty four win over the New York Jets.

796
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: Right took a wide receiver screen on third down, broke

797
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: one tackle. I'll take it to the house. The Jets

798
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: fall to two and eleven and are now in a

799
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: five way tie for the worst record in the NFL.

800
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: Suck for Duck, Yeah, I mean you want them to

801
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: lose out right. It's the It's a weird position. I

802
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't like when people do that kind of stuff,

803
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: but I have to admit it. I'm so desperate for

804
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback now, and I've heard so many good things

805
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: about Marcus Mariota. I just want it. I want it

806
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: so bad that I don't care if they lose. So

807
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: this was one of the biggest losses of the year.

808
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: I mean, this was a huge game today for the gil.

809
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: It was great. They did a great job No, this

810
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: was uh first of all Geno Smith, and it's almost comical.

811
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: It is comical, straight comical. Uh. Six days after they

812
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: they put the handcuffs on him and gave him through,

813
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: had him throw eight pass attempts in the first fifty

814
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: eight minutes of a game in prime time. They give

815
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: him the ball to throw in the first play from

816
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: scrimmage and what does he do shop? He shops it

817
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: six to his credit and I will I will say

818
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: he deserves a lot of credit. Yeah, he showed some

819
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: gumption here. He actually played very well by Gino standards.

820
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: The rest of the game. UH kept the kept them

821
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: in the game. But at the same old Jets problems

822
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: as the surface here they were over five in the

823
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: red zone punching it in for touchdowns. There's a huge

824
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: Chris I re fumble. Come be, my boy comeby was

825
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: dropped off the face of the earth. I might have

826
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: to kick him out of UH. I have a side

827
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: stable behind West and Greg stable that it's very small

828
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: to comy. Basically, it's it's not very well, it's not

829
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: well lit. Or you all have stables. Yeah, you've got

830
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, you have an entire well, yeah, I Do'm

831
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: not like liking to put people into servitude and have

832
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: to live in a stable. They can live free where

833
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: they want to live anyway. So yeah, they Jets can't

834
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: do anything in the red zone and on the Viking

835
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Uh, your boys, Yeah, I don't

836
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: think that Mark and I haven't noticed that Charles Johnson

837
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: has single handedly turned Teddy Bridgewater's rookie season around. Heasy, Yeah,

838
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: I mean he had one night. He had a nice

839
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: game today. I will give you that. Now he's played

840
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: a nice game. He went over a hundred yards, he

841
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: had a touchdown. Uh. How many one hundred yard games

842
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: as he had in his career before this? Probably zero?

843
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: He had a two weeks ago, though, Dan begrudgingly authored

844
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: point about Charles Johnson, and I tweeted. I tweeted when

845
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 1: it happened. I said, you know, this guy, he's making

846
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: some place today. It's clear that he's the favorite target

847
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: of Teddy. Uh, at least today he was. And Cordurell

848
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: Patterson who he You know? Johnson took his spot in

849
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: the lineup, barely played. When he got in the game

850
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: on special teams, he fumbled to kick off and bobbled

851
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: another kid. They didn't have a target with absolute disasters

852
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: are number one, making the leap candidate, And to Teddy Bridgewater,

853
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: I will say this made some made some plays and

854
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: on the game winning play and over time he the

855
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: Jets went into a formation where they had zero safety.

856
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: It was Rex getting aggressive and Teddy Bridge w have

857
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: saw that audible into the wide receiver screen that led

858
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: to the seven yards. So growing up a little bit,

859
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: Teddy Vikings fans get a little excited about that. They

860
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: looked good today. I was joking about Charles Johnson, but

861
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater has more wins than all the rest of

862
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterbacks combined three nine yards and two touchdowns

863
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: and only twenty seven attempts. Would you take him over

864
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: any other rookie quarterback? Said last week? I would. I

865
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: would take him to win a game this week for

866
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: sure over the other guys. I agree with that. Long term, Yeah,

867
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. Long term. I'm sticking with portals. All right.

868
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: While we're here, let's check in with the other depressing

869
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: New York based franchise, the New York Giants, who bounced

870
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: back from an embarrassing loss of the Jaguars, and they

871
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: whipped up on the tight Haans thirty six to seven.

872
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: We gotta get our boy from New Jersey live from

873
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: a New Jersey haunted mansion. The former beat reporter for

874
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. He watched this game closely for

875
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: us and he will now tell us about it. How

876
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: are your connor or I'm doing well? How is everybody

877
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: out there good? I guess one thing I just want

878
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: to say is just tell us about Odell Beckham. What

879
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: else do we really want to hear about from this game?

880
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: Tell us about I said that there should be no

881
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: more Giants games for the rest of the season. It

882
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: should just be like Odell Beckham pieces of strength, you know.

883
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean they had him. They had him throw like

884
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: a sixty yard like a sixty yard leaf flicker, passed

885
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: like he overthrew a guy from midfield. He almost like

886
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: he almost hit the back like the first row seats.

887
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous. So, I mean, he's he's extremely downed,

888
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: and you know when you had like ten receptions at behalf.

889
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: So he's really the only thing worth watching in that

890
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: entire game, and really for the rest of the Giant season.

891
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: He's mentally talented, and I think now they're it's a

892
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: little too late, but they're starting to move him around

893
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot, which is exciting. You know, he's in the slot.

894
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: He started in the backfield a lot today, So uh too,

895
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: a little too late, but but at least fun to

896
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: watch in the meantime. Connor, I got a question for you.

897
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: Pick one of these answers. Odell Beckham is the greatest

898
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: player in the history of the NFL or the greatest

899
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: athlete in the history of human kind. That's the problem

900
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: when you get like a player like that in New York, like,

901
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: it just gets ruined. You know, he really is that good,

902
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know, you read the stories. Whatever.

903
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: He's the son of an Olympic sprinter and a and

904
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: a football player, and then his stepfather is an Olympic sprinter,

905
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: so you know, he really has no excuse in my

906
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: mind right now he's under achieving with those of teams.

907
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: You know, well, the stepfather's a bit of a stretch.

908
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: What this guy's showing him technique or something doing a break. Yeah,

909
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: there's secret training. There's stuff that you and I don't have. Actors. Certainly,

910
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: I go back to the fact that he was inactive

911
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: for the first month of the year, And I've long

912
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: said that it would be wise for Greg next season

913
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: to give all of us the first four or five

914
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: weeks of the year. We don't operate, we don't work,

915
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: agree or disagree. That would be fair if that would

916
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: happen in my second year, that'll be all right. You

917
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: can you can do it all while they're off. It's

918
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: nicely done. Mark. You might have to venture out on

919
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: some non Giants games at some point, but you know

920
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: it would be be fun. Do you have anything to

921
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: share unfamiliar territories? All right with me? Do you have

922
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: anything to share about the Titans? Who are the Titans? Oh?

923
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: Zach Mettenberg got hurt, didn't he? Yeah? I mean they

924
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: need to block for him at some point. Uh, you know,

925
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: I think that would be that's a that's a that's

926
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: a haunted ghost and uh listen list that was good.

927
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: You gotta get that taken care of, bro seriously, tighten

928
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: things up. Tighten up your ghost game in your house.

929
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: TD and I had a spirited, I AM conversation during

930
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: this entire segment arguing when to drop in the ghost

931
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: sound effect. I got this, Damn, I got it. I

932
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: like how it's become an interesting subplot to the To

933
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: the To the Whole podcast, Like everyone's like, it's you're

934
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: you're revealing a little bit of my haunted mansion every week. Well,

935
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: we're concerned for you. It's true. I mean really, it's

936
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: just a matter of time before we stopped hearing from

937
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: Connor in a paranormal activity scenario. And then he also

938
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: find somebody else to watch the cruddy Giants game. Well,

939
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: then we got to send the ghostbusters over there. Somebody's

940
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: got to watch the Giants for the next close Are

941
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: you to the Amityville House? Uh? Like an hour and

942
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: a half? I mean, you know, any any sort of chaos.

943
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: The biggest takeaway I had from Connor's call this week

944
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: was he's not far away from the Amityville House. All right,

945
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Connor or thank you very much. Stave safe, buddy, thank you.

946
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: Let's move on and check in with the Houston Texans

947
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: were still hanging around in the back end of the

948
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: a f C playoff race. They knock off the Jacksonville

949
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: Jaguars to thirteen. On the road, the Texans have won

950
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: three or four. Big matchup with Indianapolis on tap mark.

951
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: Is it possible the Texans will hang around in this

952
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: race until Christmas or is next week the game where

953
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: it just disappears. I think it's gonna disappear at some point.

954
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 1: I clearly agitated Gregg at some stage at some point

955
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: this week. What ask you a question, is it happened

956
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: irritated that I was assigned this game? Well, you know,

957
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: you would have complained about I could have given you

958
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: the rams again, you would have complained about that. That

959
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: was my biggest takeaway from this, Greg. Are you saying

960
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: that perhaps Mark is becoming an issue, Well, he's trying

961
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: to make up for on the podcast all this, all

962
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: this brown nosing, but behind the scenes a lot of

963
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: little dacks. Well that's not None of that is accurate.

964
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: What you just mentioned. When I look at the Texans,

965
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: I mean they basically just they rode Arian Foster today.

966
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: He'd in eight yards before the half, finished with a

967
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven you know, one week after throwing

968
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: six touchdowns, which was obviously a complete and total mirage

969
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: from Ryan Fitzpatrick Maraggi, You're right, thirteen of nineteen, a

970
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five yards. It was just a Listen,

971
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: the Texans are kind of a scrappy eight and eight

972
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: type team that if everything fell right, they win maybe

973
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: nine games. They're not going to the playoffs. They have

974
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: seven wins this year, and the best quarterback they've beaten

975
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: is about to be benched for Johnny Manziel right there there.

976
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: Every year there's a couple of teams that disprove the

977
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: coaches cliche that, oh, it's hard to win a game

978
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's it's what the hardest thing to

979
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: do is. But no, it's it's just as easy as

980
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: any other sport. One team wins every single game, and

981
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: the Texans are seven and six. That's proof that's not

982
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: that hard to through to My life is when you

983
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: game at this level, this game life is hot in

984
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're gonna earn it. Buried the balls talking about?

985
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: Is that your Joe Philman? I think when I said

986
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: burry the balls, of course a raider's reference to Sperrano.

987
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Joe Filman is an IBM executive. As you said, there

988
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: would be no intensity in his voice. I saw philbin

989
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: once at the scouting combine walking down a carpeted hallway

990
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: with a white turtleneck that's over like over chords. Those

991
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: pants that make that sound really was, and a white turtleneck,

992
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: if my memory serves and nothing else. Is that a

993
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: Connecticut thing? You're calling them chords corduroy pants? No chords

994
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: a thing. It's a human thing. Dan, It's called it

995
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: taking a long word and shortening it to make conversation. Yeah,

996
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: because corduroy is so painful to say. Chords a corduroy

997
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: in your life growing up. None, I've read both. As

998
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: you can see, we're really plugged in on the Texans

999
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: chances J J. Watt five QB hits, three sacks, four

1000
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: tackles for loss. Given the band the m v P,

1001
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: I might win that sandwich. Yet, where's von Miller and

1002
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: DeMarco at? They're probably like thirteen sacks combined? Right? More

1003
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: than that, I'm kidding. It's thirteen and ten, I believe,

1004
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: all right. The Denver Broncos and Peyton Manning, who was

1005
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: held without a touchdown pass for the first time in

1006
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: fifty one weeks of play. It didn't matter though they

1007
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: beat the Bills twenty four seventeen in Denver. C J.

1008
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: Anderson continues to be a waiver wire godsend for fantasy owners.

1009
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: Scored three touchdowns from enclose in this game. Uh, the

1010
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: Bills playoff hopes, they seem to be on life support

1011
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: with an unforgot, unforgiving schedule ahead, right, guys, life support.

1012
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: That's awfully generous of you. Well, you know they're seven six.

1013
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: Playoff hopes are dead. There's seven and six, but the

1014
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: Jets playoff hopes are dead. The Bills are seven and six.

1015
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: They could run the table in a wild universe because

1016
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: kyl or And is their quarterback. They're not going to

1017
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: be the Packers and the Pace speaking which, by the way,

1018
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Orton played terrible in this game. And and West

1019
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: you set it downstairs when I brought it up, like

1020
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: if if e j Manuel can't get into this game

1021
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: and a must win scenario where the game was there

1022
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: for the taking the Bills. The Broncos didn't play very

1023
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: well in this game. They were out of sink. The

1024
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: Bills had plenty of opportunities, and you know what, they

1025
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: just didn't. They didn't have the quarterback that could really

1026
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: make it happen. E J Manuel can't get off the bench.

1027
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: So it tells you a lot about where Doug Marone

1028
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: stands on ej Manuel. In year two, Orton's led him

1029
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: to this point, and it'd be weird to go back

1030
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: to the middle season in how many years. So you're

1031
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: saying it's a similar situation to the Browns, where a

1032
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: team that's been losing so much he doesn't want to

1033
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: leave the guy that's got them a little better than average.

1034
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: I think Orton has been a bigger factor in their

1035
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: success overall, that he's been solid, that he he improved

1036
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: the passing game from just the bottom of the barrel.

1037
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: You also like switching quarterbacks unless you're really just a

1038
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: team in total chaos, like the Titans or Jets or something.

1039
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to throw a guy in

1040
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: that that's had no reps all week. I mean it's

1041
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: part of it. Is like they didn't get blown out

1042
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: in this game. I mean the score was deceiving though, Dan,

1043
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: is that the point? No, I mean it wasn't deceiving,

1044
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: it was the It was a one touchdown game. Uh,

1045
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: and it should have been a game that the Bills

1046
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: could have stole. I mean they had twenty four first

1047
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: down to the Broncos fifteen. Peyton Manning, you mentioned the

1048
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: stat on him, Is there any concern about would be

1049
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: a little concerned the second half. Manning has been a

1050
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: very up and down, topsy turvy quarterback, and he threw

1051
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: two interceptions in this game. He's got eleven now in

1052
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: the season. He's not gonna win a VP this year.

1053
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: That's going to someone else. Um. I know he has

1054
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: bigger things that he's trying to attain at this stage

1055
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: of his career, but the if you look at his

1056
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: game log over the past, you know, six or seven weeks,

1057
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of games whereas you know, the

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00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: passer ratings around hovering around eighty. He's not nearly as

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00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: dominant a player as he was this time last year.

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Speaker 1: And the way some of those passes flowed, including in interception,

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00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: that stands out to me. From this game, You've got

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00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: to think that maybe that arm strength is really becoming

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00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: an issue to the point where it's taking his game

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00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: down a level and he can't just outthink I outthink

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Speaker 1: the opponents. When I tweeted the stat that he had

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00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: his lowest passer rating in five years today and his

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00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: lowest completion percentage last week, Broncos fans doesn't know of

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00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: them got back to me and said, no big deal.

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00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: They want to run the ball. It's not look they're

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Speaker 1: winning games that this means nothing. I think it means something.

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00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: It means he's not playing well and you and with him,

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00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: you always have to worry about his arm strength and

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00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: it's all relative. Even in all these games he's not

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Speaker 1: playing well. I mean, he's throwing, like today through for

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00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: eight point six yards per tempt. They're moving the ball

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Speaker 1: through the air. But I think if you're a Broncos fan,

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Speaker 1: you should be concerned that four of Manning's worst Manning's

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00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: four worst games of the season have come in the

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Speaker 1: last six weeks. It's really four of his worst games

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Speaker 1: in the Broncos uniform, it's inarguable. So that's that's a trend,

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Speaker 1: and you'd like to see that turn around before the

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Speaker 1: end of the regular season. So so what the Broncos did. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's move to Sunday Night Football, where the New England

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00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: Patriots keep themselves in great position to claim that top seed.

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Speaker 1: They take care of business in a very impressive way,

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00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: beat the Chargers fourteen at Qualcom Stadium, a stadium filled

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Speaker 1: with Patriots fans. Uh so, bad job by Chargers fans

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00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: and good job by Patriots since filling up that building.

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Speaker 1: But this was a game in which the Patriots took

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00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: control about midway through and just rolled twenty un answered points.

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00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: Chris Westling Uh, this Patriots team bounced back very well

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00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: from the tough lost a lambo field didn't They should

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00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: have been thirty unanswered points. At least they had to

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00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: pick six from Devin mccordy that was negated by one

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00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: of the most suspect calls we've seen Garbage and Tom

1096
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: Brady through a really bad red zone interception that could

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00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: have been a field goal or touchdown. At the end

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00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: of the second half. It seemed like the Patriots were

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00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: in control most of the night. What a night when

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00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: the three of you are getting upset about bad calls

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00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. They were just sitting back and enjoying

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00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: that little slice of business. They then brend and Browner,

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00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: who's gotten penalized plenty for for deserving reasons because he

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00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: can't keep his hands off receivers, but in this case

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00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: he went the ball was bobbled by Ladarius Green and

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00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: making the leap candidate unfortunately, and he incomes brown her

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00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: shoulder right on his pads. It knocks him out. He

1108
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Speaker 1: gets a concussion, and because it was such a violent hit,

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Speaker 1: they threw the fight. They gotta review that stuff. Let's

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Speaker 1: get back to the game. I mean, I just drives

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00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: me crazy. That was a seven point swing. It just

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Speaker 1: I think it shows that the Patriots can win games

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00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 1: in different types of ways, which is what you would

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00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: want to see if you're a Patriots fans. Because Tom

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00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: Brady didn't really have that great at night. For three quarters,

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00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: he had probably one of his worst games of the year.

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00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: The pass rush was getting to him. They don't have

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00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones or done to High Tower in their game

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00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: in this game, arguably their best two players in the

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Speaker 1: front seven, and yet the defense really dominated. I mean

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00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: they were sending blitz is. The secondary had a great night.

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Speaker 1: It was probably their best defensive performance of the entire season.

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Speaker 1: They're they're good enough, and they're obviously they're so well

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00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: coached they can back themselves out of owners mid game.

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Speaker 1: They figured out how to do Other teams need to go.

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00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: We'll look at the film later and forget what happened.

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00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: New England is just gonna coast to the end of

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00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: the year. There wasn't just an overflow, a bubbling up

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00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: of childlike joy coming from Greg's c are you prepared

1130
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: to Are you prepared to conceive that the Dolphins aren't

1131
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: going to win the a f C. Let's give the

1132
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: a f C eas to the Patriots. I don't think

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00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: it's a seven thousand times give the number one seat

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00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: to the picky about the Patriots play the rest of

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00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: the way Miami, who killed them? They never lose that Foxborough.

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00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: You can't just say they'll never lose that Fox but

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00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: they they are not getting swept by Miami. It wouldn't

1138
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: be the craziest thing ever if they lost to Miami

1139
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: or Buffalo. But you're right, I think they're the heavy favorite.

1140
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: Game later against the Jets. Who are is that week seventeen?

1141
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: Now that's sixties, okay? Is it the last Jets home game?

1142
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: There will be a little pop for the Jets playing

1143
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: for Rex by the end of the little pop, but

1144
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: not enough to be the Patriots. They could lose one

1145
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: of those games. It's going to run this, yeah, I mean, yeah,

1146
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: you still have Geno involved, But yeah, I could see

1147
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: them losing one game. But the way they're they're playing

1148
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: at such a high level that I don't they're gonna

1149
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: just roll. Well, you're trained by Bill Belichick, in these

1150
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: Patriots teams that they're gonna play their best in December,

1151
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: that they're gonna end peaking, and that's the way there.

1152
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: They are playing so and if we looked at previous years,

1153
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: they wouldn't blow one of these. But I'm just saying

1154
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: Miami and Buffalo have enough weapons to talk about. Trained

1155
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: Belichick has these robots who play under him, and by

1156
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: Greg's reaction, we know the fans are actually brainwashed as well.

1157
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: One week at a time, it's not really over. Greg,

1158
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: you were getting a little misty eyed talking about Julian

1159
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: Edelman and how important he is to this offense. I

1160
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: think Edelman is as valuable for them as Welker was

1161
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: in his prime and in Troy Brown wasn't His touch

1162
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: was not about all about numbers sometimes you know that

1163
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: for this offense, I think if you took Welker away,

1164
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be as devastating as taking Gronk away. But

1165
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: I just don't see how they would exist without and

1166
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: click on all and he's not making plays after the catch.

1167
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: He makes a lot of plays on his own. You

1168
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: gotta giries me with your Danny Amendolah support. You seem

1169
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: to think that guy is just one opportunity away from fulfilling.

1170
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: He would have a thousand yards season if Edelman wasn't there,

1171
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: they would just plug him into the slot. He can't

1172
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: play outside receiver, and he's forced to play another positions

1173
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: because Edelman is the slot guy. All right, So I

1174
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 1: enjoyed Greg's attempt at suggesting New England's got a rough

1175
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: road ahead. They are the team in the a f

1176
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: C right now, absolutely, and they just survived the roughest

1177
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: road possible. This was really kind of the end of

1178
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: this streak where you played three straight a f C

1179
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: first place teams, then the Packers, then the Chargers, and

1180
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: they only lost one and that was in Green Bay.

1181
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: It came through with fine Cler's celebration. You know what

1182
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: a lot of it. What this is about with Greg

1183
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: is he knows what's coming February one war Packers over Pats,

1184
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: and it's gonna hurt. I don't want to sit next

1185
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: to you guys during the Super Bowl. I hope they

1186
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: get there, but I don't want to sit next to

1187
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: you guys. Fair enough, all right, that's it for another

1188
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We will be

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00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: back on Wednesday with another great show of goodness talking

1190
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: about everything that's happening in the NFL. Thank you for listening. Uh,

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00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: check us out however you want to check us out.

1192
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: But stitcher is a great way to do with iTunes.

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Speaker 1: You know, he believe in those comments. What you guys

1194
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: are doing a great job. Maybe we'll read one of

1195
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: those on Wednesday's show. That'll be fun. Tell your grandmother's

1196
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: about us, friends about the grandmas. But tell your uncles

1197
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Speaker 1: like uncle's buddy, the buddy from high school. All that

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Speaker 1: stuff to grandma's will get my references. Tell them all right,

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Speaker 1: tell the grandma's alright. This is Dan Hansons signing off

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Speaker 1: for the Sizzler, the Mailman, the Boss and tight Day

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00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: behind the glass John Day. I like that, k I

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00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: like the kind of party bourbon. All I know is

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01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: your mess with me. You got problems, That's all I know.

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01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: This is what you lift all amblinks. What the hell's

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Speaker 1: going on out here? On fire