1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Carol Masterlow with Stephen Carroll. We're live here at the 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Plaza at the earth Shot Prize Innovations Summit, and really 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: great just talking with Jen in terms of the innovators 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: for the earth Shot Prize looking at things like food 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: waste in particular, and the un has some data about that. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Look, this is something that they're stressing 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: that how we eat and how food is preduced is 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: going to be one of the key issues when it 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: comes to tackling what's going on in the future of 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: the climate as well. We're looking towards the Global Business 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: Forum taking place here in the Plaza as well, but 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: we want to talk a little bit about the selling 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: the production of food and where the pressure has come 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: to that and how we think about doing that more 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: environmentally friendly as well. This in the day, we've also 17 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: had consumer confidence. 18 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: O that too, exactly right, So we all tie it 19 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: together with this next guest, Whole Foods Market CEO Jason 20 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: Beekle is back with us. He's actually at Bloomberg headquarters 21 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: in New York City, but the last time I spoke 22 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: with him, Jason was back at Milkin in May. Great 23 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: to have you here with us. I do want to 24 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: start with, though, the greening of all of the food 25 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: that we eat, how it's produced, how it's sold. Talk 26 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: to us about sustainability issues at Whole Foods, how that 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: is front and center, or what you guys are doing 28 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: to make it front and center. 29 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: Hi, Carolyn Steven, So happy to be here. One of 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: the things I'm so proud of is going back forty 31 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: four years ago and we opened our first store climate. Frankly, 32 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: agriculture practices like regenitive and organic have been at the 33 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: heart of Whole Foods market and we've always looked at 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: the environment as one of our core stakeholders and we 35 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: actually have a core value around it as well. So 36 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of the work that we continue to 37 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: do to lead not only within our industry, but helping 38 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: drive change across food systems around the world. You know, 39 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: for us, we look at our food systems are in 40 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: jeopardy of being able to produce the products that we 41 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: know and love today for our future generations, and so 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: it's why we're trying to take big steaks in the 43 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: ground and investing in areas like regenitive to help ensure 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: that we can have the nutrient density and be able 45 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: to continue to supply our customers with amazing products. 46 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: What are the benchmarks that you're looking at in this area? 47 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: What are the metrics that you know, both your investors 48 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: but also your customers are going to be looking at 49 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to making progress on those goals. 50 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: Well, one of the things that is great is we're 51 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: part of Amazon and as part of the Climate Pledge, 52 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: we have direct goals that we are tied to help 53 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 3: support those efforts. And for us, given the fact that 54 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: this has already been part of our culture and our DNA, 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: it's actually been great to take the work that we're 56 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: already were doing and just clipping it into some more 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: advanced goals to help advance the work that we're doing. 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: You know, one of those examples is, you know, reducing 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: our food waste. We took a goal of reducing it 60 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: by fifty percent by twenty thirty, but you know, I've 61 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: been talking about our teams, we have to do better 62 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: than that. The reality is is we have too many 63 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 3: people who are in need and don't have food access, 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: and we have products that are going in landfills today. 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: So we have to be able to help divert that 66 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: food as well, and if we're not able to make 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 3: sure that it's available for human consumption, let's get into 68 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: programs where it can support animal feed or composting. So 69 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: for us, it's not even just about the goals that 70 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: we're setting, but how can we do it quicker because 71 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: we feel that burning platform and helping drive change. 72 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: Well, Jason, let me put that question to you, because 73 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: you know it is certainly part of your DNA in 74 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 2: terms of whole foods thinking about sustainability or organic regenerative. 75 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: But having said that, how do we do it faster? 76 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I think one of the things we need 77 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: to do is engage customers and ultimately make sure that 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: they understand the choices that they're making at the shelf 79 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: and how it's going to impact future generations. One of 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: the things that I'm really optimistic about in this space is, 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: you know, looking at gen Z, we've been doing some 82 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: customer insight work in this space, and what's exciting is 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: seventy percent of gen z ors say they support climate 84 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: friendly giger culture, and fifty five percent of them are 85 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: saying they'll actually pay a premium for that product. And 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: you know, looking at customer insights before, there's a lot 87 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: of times customers will say one thing, but they do 88 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: something else, even if a quarter of the folks actually 89 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: respond accurately. Here, that's progress. And as we can work 90 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: with more and more suppliers in finding ways to implement 91 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: you know, regenitive and climate smart agriculture practices, including organic, 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: there's actually upside across the stream. The reality is is, 93 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: you know that we can actually improve the margins for farmers. 94 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: We can actually you know, take out costs across the 95 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: supply chain systems, and at the same time we can 96 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: deliver a higher quality product that's actually better for the environment. 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: You've also been doing this though at a time when 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: production costs are getting higher as well. And I wonder 99 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: how much of a HEALTHODS is having to take on 100 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: trying to control costs for customers and how much more 101 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: you say, the customers are willing to pay more for 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: sustainable food, but how much more? 103 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that it depends upon the product and 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: the category. And one of the things we're really trying 105 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: to do is make sure that we can serve customers 106 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: across a very broad spectrum. You talked about, you know, 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: some of the increasing costs that customers are seeing, and 108 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: we know that customers have been pinched on inflation not 109 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: just in food but across all their areas of spending, 110 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: and so our focus in this calendar year has actually 111 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: been bringing prices down. So we've invested over twenty five 112 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: percent of our items across an average store have for 113 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: seen a price reduction this year. Eight hundred and eighty 114 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: of those have been three sixty five items, so they've 115 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: been at the opening price point, if you will, creating 116 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: a great opportunity for value for customers without sacrificing quality. 117 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: And at the same time, we've doubled the number of 118 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: promotions from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four, and 119 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: this allows us to have a great offering where we 120 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: have a good, better, best across every aspect of our store, 121 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: and so good can be the entry level product where 122 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: customers can find great value, great quality, and those who 123 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: may want the best something that is certified regenitive organic, 124 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: of which we've got a lot of new offerings we've 125 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: been bringing in under our Whole Foods Market label, and 126 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: I'll tell you these products. In some cases we've had 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: a challenge of not even having the supply based upon 128 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 3: the demand. It's been great because customers who really align 129 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: with that ethos and want to be able to support 130 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: those efforts, We're able to divide those products as well. 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: So having that broad spectrum where any customer can have 132 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: accessibility to whole foods and have great quality product is 133 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 3: one of our goals here and at the same time 134 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: supporting the environment. 135 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: Hey, Jason, one thing we've got to ask you us 136 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: consumer confidence, unexpectedly following the most of three years concerns 137 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: about the labor market. Having said that, I am a 138 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: consumer who trades down, I'm okay if it's not the 139 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: brand name right now, and I know you guys have 140 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: a three sixty five brand name. What are you seeing 141 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: with consumers? Are you seeing strains? And I know your 142 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: consumer is a higher income consumer, but what are you 143 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: seeing with consumers? 144 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, great question, and one of the things, 145 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes folks think we have just a higher 146 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: end consumer. The reality is we actually have a really 147 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: broad spectrum of customers that we've been able to bring in, 148 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: and a lot of that has to do with the 149 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: work that we've done and helping lower prices and increase 150 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: our promotions, and one of the opportunities that I think 151 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: that we, you know, have in this space is make 152 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: sure that customers have options. And you know, one of 153 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: the things that we've seen more recently is customers have 154 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: leaned in in areas like ground proteins, so you take 155 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, ground beef, ground turkey, ground chicken, ground lamb. 156 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: We've seen those items actually increase two fold compared to 157 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: the rest of meat. But also interestingly enough is we're 158 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: also seeing increases on the premium products as well, so 159 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: some of our top cuts of steak. And part of 160 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: that is, you know, consumers are seeing increased prices at 161 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: restaurants and so just you know, our store here at 162 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: Hudson and Yards in Manhattan West this week, I was 163 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: talking and you know why they were seeing, you know, 164 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: such great increases in you know, some of their stakes, 165 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: and they're like, customers are telling us that they can 166 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: get this steak it's as good, if not better quality, 167 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: and they're going to go to a restaurant and they're 168 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: getting it for a quarter of the price. And so 169 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: pair that with a great bottle of wine at the 170 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: half price, you know, folks are able to sort of 171 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: celebrate in house enjoying great food and for other customers 172 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: it might be trading down to get you a ground protein. 173 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: Right. Love it. Great color in terms of what's going on, 174 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: and also great to hear about some of the sustainability 175 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: issues that I know is so part of the company. 176 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: Whole foods market CEO Jason Beegle joining us back there 177 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: at Bloomberg Headquarters in New York City,