WEBVTT - The Self-Destructiveness of White Supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, keeps, and welcome to WOKF Daily with Meet

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<v Speaker 1>your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker, Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time that this recording hits Ron de Santis

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<v Speaker 1>will have announced that he is running for President of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. Yes, death Santis, from the fascist state

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida, wants to turn the rest of America into

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<v Speaker 1>his cesspool. He wants to turn on private businesses, turn

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<v Speaker 1>on LGBTQ people, ban every single book in every library

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<v Speaker 1>across this country. He wants to ban migrant workers. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants to ban LGBTQ people from existing. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>erase black history and black people in general from this

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<v Speaker 1>country and make things very, very comfortable for white America.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the goal here, folks. And we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this on WOKEF for quite some time that the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Party uses Florida, uses Texas and Tennessee in these other

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<v Speaker 1>states as their peatrie dishes to workshop their most cruel

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<v Speaker 1>policies to see how it will play out on the

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<v Speaker 1>national stage. Now, everything is being banked on the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump, while he overwhelmingly would beat the crap

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<v Speaker 1>out of Ron DeSantis in the polls in a head

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<v Speaker 1>to head right now, well, Donald Trump has multiple indictments looming.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump could potentially have been indicted again by Georgia's

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<v Speaker 1>Fannie Willis by the end of the summer. Right she

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<v Speaker 1>gave us all the time frame between July and September.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Jack Smith who is wrapping up his investigation

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<v Speaker 1>on the stolen documents, and we have Donald Trump, in

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<v Speaker 1>his own words saying that he stole the documents and

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<v Speaker 1>what So you have those two major cases that are looming,

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<v Speaker 1>on top of which you already have out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan DA thirty four indictments right on fraud. So Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is not a sure thing. He's not a sure

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<v Speaker 1>thing to make it right to election day and not

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<v Speaker 1>also have to be appear in court that day. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the reality. And so the Republican Party is now

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<v Speaker 1>backing up their spare right, which would be Rond de Santis. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Ron de Santis does not have the charisma, does not

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<v Speaker 1>have the support of the MAGA base, but he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>has the cruelty is the point down pat and he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely understands how politics works. So he is even more

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous than Donald Trump. We are not just up against

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<v Speaker 1>right Donald Trump or Rond de Santis, the people. We

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<v Speaker 1>are up against a white supremaist, Christian fundamentalist ideology that

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<v Speaker 1>seeks to erase and oppress everyone else who does not

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<v Speaker 1>implore their same beliefs or look the same, pray the same,

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<v Speaker 1>love the same as they do. Right, We're in a

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<v Speaker 1>real fucking pickle. The other point is that, yes, we're

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<v Speaker 1>aware that Joe Biden is going to be the oldest

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<v Speaker 1>man running for reelection, and if he pulls out this reelection,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be the oldest president to serve at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no backup plan, right, Joe Biden is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're not going ten toes down for him,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're not going ten toes down for democracy period.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to continue to cover this and follow this.

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<v Speaker 1>But coming up next, I'm so excited to welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to WOKF my co host of Democracy, ish wajahat Ali

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<v Speaker 1>and the author of Go Back to Your Country. We

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<v Speaker 1>get into a conversation about the NAACP's ban, about the

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<v Speaker 1>erasure of by people, about cruelty is the point and

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<v Speaker 1>where we think this country is headed. And as a bonus,

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<v Speaker 1>my dear friends, A new democracy Ish episode drops two days,

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<v Speaker 1>weekly co host of a Democracy Ish, Washa hot Al Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>who is an author, a columnist, and all around badass

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. If you have not read his book go

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<v Speaker 1>back to where you come from and other helpful tips

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<v Speaker 1>So wa, you know, first of all, I just America,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll just start there America and then slap

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<v Speaker 1>my head and we can just go from there. But

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend, the NAACP issued a really intense warning

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<v Speaker 1>to black people in America and members of other marginalized

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<v Speaker 1>groups in saying that you should be wary of traveling

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<v Speaker 1>to the state of Florida, that Florida is essentially a

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<v Speaker 1>hate state, that it is a dangerous state for black people,

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<v Speaker 1>for LGBTQ people, for women. It was lengthy. It was necessary,

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<v Speaker 1>and it harkens back to essentially a time in this

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<v Speaker 1>country during Jim Crow segregation where black Americans had to

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<v Speaker 1>if they were traveling, they got something called a green

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<v Speaker 1>book jajah hot Ali. They got a green book at

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<v Speaker 1>different gas stations, in different places of respites in between

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<v Speaker 1>their travels from the North throughout the South that would

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<v Speaker 1>signal to them in providing great detail places that would

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<v Speaker 1>accept their money and their presence as black people, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was at a restaurant or a gas station or

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel. And traveling was so precarious and could end

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<v Speaker 1>up resulting in a lynching, a rape, a robbery, a beating,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things that the Green Book was necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>Created by Victor Green, a postal worker who created this

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<v Speaker 1>and printed it himself and was disseminated throughout the South.

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<v Speaker 1>And so here we are was fast forward to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, where the nacious, longest and oldest civil rights

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<v Speaker 1>organization has made this stark warning. How did that land

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<v Speaker 1>with you?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the Green Book was a movie where Vigo

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<v Speaker 2>Mortensen was taught by Mahershala Ali how to write letters

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<v Speaker 2>to his wife, and then they and then they had

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<v Speaker 2>been ali Weather. Oh yeah, my bad. Sorry. Look, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the NAACP should be joined by the National Organization

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<v Speaker 2>of Women, who should give an advisory to women who

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to Florida because Ron DeSantis, the wet

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<v Speaker 2>noodle that we have always said that he is on

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<v Speaker 2>our other podcast, has now restricted abortions after six weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think GLAD or any organization that represents LGBTQ plus

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<v Speaker 2>communities should also issue an advisory because don't say gay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think educators and librarians should also issue an advisory

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<v Speaker 2>because they're banning books, they're banning ap African American studies,

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<v Speaker 2>they're silencing academics, and they're threatening librarians. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>think any group that tries to protect immigrants, especially on

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<v Speaker 2>document immigants, should also issue advisory warning because with the

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<v Speaker 2>new anti immigration bill, which none enough people are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that he passed, basically they could just stop anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who looks mexicany ask them for their papers, and out

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<v Speaker 2>of state driver's licenses apparently aren't enough. So it has

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<v Speaker 2>led to Danielle as of last week and something that

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<v Speaker 2>people should mention. Massive stoppages in construction in Florida. Why

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<v Speaker 2>because just like in the African American community, in the

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<v Speaker 2>immigrant community and migrant community, especially the Latino communities weren't

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<v Speaker 2>spread and people are like, yo, unless you want to

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<v Speaker 2>get detained and deported, don't go to Florida. So I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, Danielle, if you go anti woke, you'll go broke.

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<v Speaker 2>And another thing I'll say is good on the NAACP.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were talking about this earlier. A tweet came

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<v Speaker 2>out from a friend of ours, historian Kevin Cruse of Princeton,

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<v Speaker 2>who's excellent on Twitter, follow him if you don't. And

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<v Speaker 2>Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz, who cares so much about

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<v Speaker 2>his constituents that whenever there's trouble he goes to can Kuhn.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's now leading the charge with all these

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<v Speaker 2>other Republicans. How dare you, nubacap, how dare you? And

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<v Speaker 2>he invokes doctor King. Doctor King would be so embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Kevin crew says, ah, as a historian, I

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<v Speaker 2>have receipts. Actually Doctor King back in the day called

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<v Speaker 2>for a boycott of this state called Alabama, precisely because

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<v Speaker 2>as you described, Danielle, it was a haven for white violence,

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<v Speaker 2>white vigilante violence against black people and those whites who

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<v Speaker 2>helped black people. Yeah, that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so Kevin Cruz and and folks, it is

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin and Cruz k r U s E. He tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>this in response to Ted Cruz, who said, quote this

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<v Speaker 1>is bizarre and utterly dishonest. In the nineteen fifties and sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>the NAACP did extraordinary good thing, good good helping lead

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<v Speaker 1>the civil rights movement. Today, doctor Kin would be ashamed

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<v Speaker 1>of how profoundly they've lost their way, so quote tweeting

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<v Speaker 1>that Professor Kevin Cruz tweets this. In nineteen sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor King called for a national boycott of the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Alabama, saying that the Democratic governor George Wallace's policies

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<v Speaker 1>constituted a quote reign of terror against black Americans. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>just so folks don't get it twisted, Ted Cruz knows nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that it is. It is very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to dig into the bin of idiocy and lack of intellectual,

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<v Speaker 1>nimbleness and honesty when we're talking about the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 1>writ large, but in particular Ted Cruz, much alike Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>love to do coming around the Martin Luther King Junior Holiday,

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<v Speaker 1>which is to take out the one quote that they

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<v Speaker 1>know out of its context. Come on, Daniel, be fair

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<v Speaker 1>three quotes, you're right, You're right, and admonish black people

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<v Speaker 1>for acknowledging the racist policies that they put together, because

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<v Speaker 1>us acknowledging racism is what is racist, not the policies

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<v Speaker 1>in and of itself. So Professor Cruse said, let me

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<v Speaker 1>provide you with the actual receipts of the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times article that was written in nineteen sixty five. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think what gets me here is that facts

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<v Speaker 1>don't register with the Party of Lies and the Party

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<v Speaker 1>of hate. But what should register with Americans and the

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<v Speaker 1>populace is that this party hasn't just regressed, it has devolved, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It has devolved into something where we thought that the

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<v Speaker 1>commentary that we understood around the civil rights movement we

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<v Speaker 1>would always look at through a historical lens. But here

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<v Speaker 1>we are, in present day twenty twenty three America, following

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<v Speaker 1>the successful two terms of our nation's first black president.

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<v Speaker 1>We currently have our first black and an AAPI vice

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<v Speaker 1>president woman of the United States. That we are still

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<v Speaker 1>in the midst of experiencing some extraordinary first but here

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<v Speaker 1>we are with the nation's oldest civil rights organization having

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<v Speaker 1>to issue travel warnings to black people in America.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Daniel, I'm going to google this because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get the quote right. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned George Wallason. For those people who forget George Wallace

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<v Speaker 2>ran for president. He was also elected as governor of

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama in nineteen sixty three. This is what George Wallace said,

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<v Speaker 2>in the name of the greatest people that have ever

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<v Speaker 2>trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust

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<v Speaker 2>and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and

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<v Speaker 2>I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. And what

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<v Speaker 2>I said during the tyranny of Donald Trump's four years

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<v Speaker 2>in the White House is that he has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in common George Wallace. He's a demagogue. In fact, people

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<v Speaker 2>support George Wallace should support Donald Trump. So you say devolved,

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<v Speaker 2>I say, they're returning back to their roots. This is

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<v Speaker 2>who they were, And people say, oh, well, joh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>too harsh. I want to remind you all that Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump said, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Another

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<v Speaker 2>famous pro segregation dog whistle in those parts right from

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<v Speaker 2>the sixties. So these folks Ted Cruz and the modern

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Party literally, I mean, do we really think if

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<v Speaker 2>they took a Dolorean back to the sixties, would they

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<v Speaker 2>be on the side of Doctor King or would they

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<v Speaker 2>be on the side of George Wallace. And I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you this, don't say gay banning, any treatment of transgender kids,

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<v Speaker 2>banning books written by Tony Morrison, going after Colin Kaepernick

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<v Speaker 2>for bending a knee, but supporting white supremacist and Christian

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<v Speaker 2>nationalists who tried to literally overthrow our election right, calling

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, calling the black officer who defended these Republican

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<v Speaker 2>congressmen a thug, but praising Ashley Babbitt, who was radicalized

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<v Speaker 2>by QAnon, Praising people like Kyle Rittenhouse who shan and

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<v Speaker 2>killed two white folks at a BLM protest, praising and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy, the white guy who got convicted by a

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<v Speaker 2>jury of his peers in Texas for shooting another protester

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<v Speaker 2>at a b protest. Tucker Carlson said, parton them, and

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Abbat said, sure, I'll part on this white killer

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<v Speaker 2>who was convicted by a jury of his peers. Literally lynching.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at Arbury for jogging while black in his neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it wasn't for the video that was released,

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<v Speaker 2>they would not be in prison. So you tell me, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>Would these people, these modern Republicans, be on the side

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<v Speaker 2>of doctor King because they only know three of his

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<v Speaker 2>quotes and forget everything else, especially the condemnation of corrupt

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<v Speaker 2>capitalism and white supremacy? Or would they be on the

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<v Speaker 2>side of George Wallace? And I would tell you they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be on the side of George Wallace. So NAACP is

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<v Speaker 2>finally flexing and the way you go after these folks.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is why I've always said that white supremacy

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<v Speaker 2>is ultimately self destructive. Because Ron DeSantis, in order to

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<v Speaker 2>feed the magabase that has been radicalized and weaponized, has

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<v Speaker 2>to go after Disney. He can't double down, he can't retreat,

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<v Speaker 2>even though you and I know on the d all

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans like whoahoa, whoa Easier, They're Ronda Santiss. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't bite the hand that feeds you. Now they've gone

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<v Speaker 2>all in to feed this radicalized base that wants to

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<v Speaker 2>stand its ground. That Florida is I'm sorry to say,

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<v Speaker 2>getting some karma. Disney flex last week, right, they're actually

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<v Speaker 2>just a couple of days ago Disney said, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>that huge billion.

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<v Speaker 1>Dollar complex pulling it.

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<v Speaker 2>Peace out. NAACP said, oh, Disney's gonna peace out. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna peace out. Educators are gonna peace out. I think

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<v Speaker 2>what about college athletes, Black athletes? Will they go to

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<v Speaker 2>university Florida schools for football? You tell me, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say no. So this is one of those situations where

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<v Speaker 2>you need this multicultural coalition. And when I see the NAACP,

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<v Speaker 2>I was serious. I want now the National Organization of Women,

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<v Speaker 2>I want Glad. I want all these groups now to say,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Florida, you want to go anti woke, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go bro. That's my take on this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wholeheartedly agree, because here's the thing you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go after, right. I think that it's be colleges,

0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:07.640
<v Speaker 1>big sports entities, ticket Master, Live Nation, all of these

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<v Speaker 1>places that do business, that do multi million dollar or a

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar business like Disney and say so we're done.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are people wash who come out and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't harm the people that live there

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<v Speaker 1>that are trying to do the best that they can.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, you know, money talks and bullshit walks.

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<v Speaker 1>So if at the end of the day, we are

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<v Speaker 1>still operating under this capitalist regime, right, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>the power to sway you know, the ticket masters of

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<v Speaker 1>the world and the big names from going and performing

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<v Speaker 1>in places like Florida, if you have the ability to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, NBA, nc DOUBLEA, NFL and others that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to support you if you are playing

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<v Speaker 1>games and giving money to this state. Because it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>just construct that is now faltering in Florida, it is

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<v Speaker 1>also guess what agriculture is faltering in Florida, right, because

0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.960
<v Speaker 1>they literally have fruits and vegetables dying on the vines.

0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Because our agriculture market requires right migrant workers. Yep, whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not we want to pay them, acknowledge them, provide

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<v Speaker 1>them with dignity and respect. This is how things work.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, when I see the NAACP and equality Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there is one other organization that I

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<v Speaker 1>am remiss at remembering right now who has issued warnings

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to Florida. I believe that everyone else, the

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<v Speaker 1>Human Rights Campaign glad ACLU others Southern popular law. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>should fall in line.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot Pan America joined up with Penguin Random House,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Titan publishing corporations, to sue Florida. That

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<v Speaker 2>happened last week also and the last quick thing before

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<v Speaker 2>were It also goes to show you, in this capitalist

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<v Speaker 2>country where all that matters is money, the color green

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<v Speaker 2>trumps all of the colors in God, we trust, it's

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<v Speaker 2>right there. It also goes to show you, Danielle, if

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<v Speaker 2>these corporations actually cared about freedom, democracy and human rights overnight,

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<v Speaker 2>there would be changes in this country. Disney Disney's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the unexpected hero because they pushed Disney to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where they finally had to step up. Disney

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<v Speaker 2>could have done this on its own right. So it

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<v Speaker 2>just goes to show you how much power these organizations

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<v Speaker 2>have that if you go after their bottom line, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go after the Republicans that they also feed.

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<v Speaker 2>But it also goes to show you that if they

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<v Speaker 2>actually cared overnight, they can rain in the Republicans and

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<v Speaker 2>the majority can stop, you know, being hijacked by a minority.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the sad part. This could happen overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, speaking of things that happened overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good, well done, excellent segue.

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<v Speaker 1>With a few minutes that we have left the lone

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<v Speaker 1>black Republican Senator Tim Scott has you know, said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's running for president, and you know he's doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>Wa was by stating that America is not a racist country.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've just spent the last sixteen minutes talking about

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<v Speaker 1>all the ways in which America is absolutely and totally racist,

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<v Speaker 1>right from hearkening back to George Wallace, to today's policies

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<v Speaker 1>that are happening, to the NAACP's announcement. But in Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's America and the reality that he lives in, in

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<v Speaker 1>his hehaw America, he believes that anybody who tells you

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<v Speaker 1>that America is racist, they are lying to you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what he said in his announcement speech. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Scott has been the literal blackface that the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Party has trotted out to deal to come up with

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<v Speaker 1>compromise legislation that fell apart after the murder of George Floyd.

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<v Speaker 1>He was supposed to be working with his counterpart, Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Booker to create legislation that would, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>stop cops from being able to kill unarmed black people

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<v Speaker 1>and use police brutality and wield unimaginable force. And that

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<v Speaker 1>all fell apart after about eight months, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>yet to come back to the table again on those issues.

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<v Speaker 1>But anytime there is an issue with regard to race

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<v Speaker 1>or racism, it is Tim Scott that the Republican parties

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<v Speaker 1>pushed to the front, and he is saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>wants us to get back to a place of unity

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<v Speaker 1>right where we can have differences with one another, but

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<v Speaker 1>that we are all part of the same American team.

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<v Speaker 1>He harkened back to Reagan that America is this beacon

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<v Speaker 1>on the hill. He pulled out every single trope, every

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<v Speaker 1>single Republican talking point. But the differentiator here is that

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<v Speaker 1>he is not referring to his Democratic opponents as his enemies.

0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.239
<v Speaker 1>He is not calling for them to be round up

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<v Speaker 1>and hunted like dogs, like Governor McMaster just said at

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<v Speaker 1>a South Carolina Republican convention meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow that one wow yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, rounded up and hunted like dogs. That he wants

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<v Speaker 1>them Democrats to be so rare that that is the case,

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<v Speaker 1>and Democrats in South Carolina are calling on him for

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<v Speaker 1>an apology. I better they wait for hell to freeze over.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of Tim Scott his announcement and

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<v Speaker 1>how he is positioning himself right now with another black

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote rising star Byron Donalds, who is an election denier.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the other black face that Republicans are loving to

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<v Speaker 1>trot out.

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<v Speaker 2>Every community has a token, a cultural validator, a black

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<v Speaker 2>or brown face that acts as a trojan horse for

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<v Speaker 2>white supremacy. One who believes that they are either special

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<v Speaker 2>and exalted and different from a svages, the Clarence Thomas ones,

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 2>the ones who hate themselves, or the ones who realize

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good gig because the money is lucrative,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can parrot all their talking points, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be the token black. I'll be the Candice Owens. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be the Nikki Haley, the vivid Ramaswami. Right. And the

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<v Speaker 2>interesting thing is they engage in all these petzel circusile

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 2>rational you know, gymnastics in their head. Nicky Haley said

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing when she ran for when she announce

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<v Speaker 2>her candidacy, and literally right when she did, and Colter

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<v Speaker 2>told her to go back to her own country. People

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<v Speaker 2>always forget this, right. Literally, Donald Trump said she has

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the wrong complexion to be my running mate. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>they're being racist to their face and they sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and they eat their shit sandwich, because that's the fausting bargain.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Scott knows what's up, but he's made this fasting bargain.

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 2>He's never going to be president. He effed up. Literally,

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<v Speaker 2>he took the mic and did a Howard Dean moment

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<v Speaker 2>and effed up even making his announcement. So it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's gonna be a punch line. But what he'll

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<v Speaker 2>get is a lifelong tenure in the Republican Party as

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<v Speaker 2>the token black. He'll get a six or seven figure

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<v Speaker 2>book deal, he'll get a consulting gig, and he'll allow

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans to get away with the fiction that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>racist because look, we support the black yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just you know, it is. It is

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>a gig as old as time, right, It is a

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 1>gig as old as time to be And I love

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>your phrasing the to be the embodiment of the trojan

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<v Speaker 1>horse for white supremacy. It is it can't possibly exist

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>because I exist, right, And the reality is tip Scott.

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:41.880
<v Speaker 1>You know his grandfather, I believe you know, pick cotton, right,

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:49.360
<v Speaker 1>lived in the lived under the weight of segregation. And

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<v Speaker 1>so Tip Scott has a lot to be proud of.

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>His family has a lot to be proud of.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>You go from in two generations from picking cotton to

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>picking policy, and that is that has always been you know,

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>his line of thinking. But there's something that got contorted

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and twisted in his mind about because he had said

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>ability and advantages. That then every black person in this

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<v Speaker 1>country has had the same ability and advantages and everything

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<v Speaker 1>else that we see is just a product of our imagination.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we just ignore it, if we just align

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<v Speaker 1>with our oppressor and be grateful to share stages with

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>them and share microphones with them, then all will be well.

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Pull your pull yourself up from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, and don't let your don't let your complexion

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>be what causes you to not be able to succeed.

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>That's just an excuse, right. So it is it is

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 1>such an incredible place where you named, you name checked

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 1>all of these black and brown faces that the Republican

0:25:55.760 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Party is pushing forward to cloak their white supremacy. Right,

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And I just wonder do you think last question for you,

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>how do we we think this is gonna fare in

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the long run? The Decks and the Nikkis and the

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Byrons and the tim Scotts. You know, is this the

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<v Speaker 1>new Republican Party or just the same old ropodope?

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, Colonialism, like herpies, lingers forever, and it gets

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 2>passed on generation and generation. And it's not just black people,

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 2>but it's people of color who've come to this country. Right,

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 2>They unconsciously, oftentimes chased whiteness for protection and safety. And

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I've given this analogy before they came in, and like, huh,

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>who's winning, who's creating the policies, who's on top, who's

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 2>on the billboards, who's the hero white folks, who's in jail,

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 2>who's hated? Who's beating up black people? Even though my

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 2>natural allies will be the black and brown folks, let

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 2>me chase whiteness. I'll never be white, but I'll be protected.

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll be asymptotic to whiteness. Right, and then you engage

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 2>in all these rationalizations, and I am the good one.

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 2>If they only pull themselves up from the bootstraps like me,

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<v Speaker 2>if they got rid of their pathology and self loathing.

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 2>If they became post racist, then everything would be better.

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 2>And yet time and time again, you can't wipe off

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 2>the blackness and the brownness. This country reminds you violently

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>your place in the hierarchy. And so what I think

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 2>is going to happen is that whiteness has always evolved

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>to survive. It is trying to win over Latinos and

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Asians and black folks through family values, through the transgender panic.

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I think they will win over a minority of our community.

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I think they will, and I think you're going to

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 2>see like the Latino white supremacist in Texas who killed

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 2>eight people, We're going to see more and more of that.

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 2>But I do think the cruelty of white supremacy is

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 2>finally animating enough people, Danielle, thanks to the work of

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Martin Luther King, the Silver Rights Movement are ancestors who

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>fought in bled that they say I'm done with this,

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and enough whites. Maybe if in enough whites can say, oh,

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 2>this is self destructive for our families in this country,

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>we can get that coalition of about seventy percent. But

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 2>I think this will be the norm. You're going to

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 2>see more tokens you're going to see more Latino, black,

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 2>brown white supremacists, and you're gonna see our community having

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>to call them out and expose them and do more education.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I know that's not the answer that people want, but

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>that's my realistic answer as to how white supremacy will

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 2>evolve to try it to stave off the inevitable minority

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>majority that is America.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Wajah hot Ali, my good good friend. I thank

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you so much for all of your work, for the

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 1>continued ways that you use your platform to sound an alarm.

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I know that they don't listen to us all the time,

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>but our track record, as you say on democracy Ish

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<v Speaker 1>every week, we're bat in one hundred over there. If

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<v Speaker 1>only we would be wrong, then we would be multimillionaires

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<v Speaker 1>and have our own shows on Fox but Friends. If

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy our conversation today on wokef make sure to

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<v Speaker 1>check out Waj and I each and every Thursday on

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<v Speaker 1>Democracy Ish. You can catch Democracy Ish wherever you get

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<v Speaker 1>your podcasts. And if you have not read Wah's book,

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<v Speaker 1>go back to where you came from. Folks, you are

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<v Speaker 1>missing out. Be sure to get your copy.

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<v Speaker 2>Waj.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you. That is it for me today, dear

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<v Speaker 1>friends on Woke app as always, Power to the people

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<v Speaker 1>and to all the people. Power, get woke and stay

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<v Speaker 1>woke as fuck.