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Speaker 1: Super Bowl serv Yes, from the Arizona super Bowl. It's
Speaker 1: Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansas here at the
Speaker 1: Phoenix Convention Center, joined by the heroes, Greg roseatal Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: Here we are mark a place where years ago you
Speaker 1: were trapped. Yeah. I spent a strange year here. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, for I think many have heard the story
Speaker 1: I'll recap in thirty seconds, but had a girlfriends type
Speaker 1: individual in my life back in like the two thousand
Speaker 1: and three era, and we were striving from Colorado to
Speaker 1: l A and we were in a v W camper
Speaker 1: van pop top going from National Park to not making
Speaker 1: our way of way through the country and that VW
Speaker 1: youthful Hobo's youthful Hobos. The thing just completely um s
Speaker 1: is out in the middle of like lower Arizona. And
Speaker 1: she announced me at that point, after about a week
Speaker 1: being stuck in the man, I'm a desert person. Now
Speaker 1: this is a microcosm of what's not working. How did
Speaker 1: you not roll up your sleeves and get that car
Speaker 1: back on the road. Well, we sold it and then
Speaker 1: we bought her a vehicle and I worked at a
Speaker 1: Wells Fargo HR of the Mistakes and that was our
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty seven coverage. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1: Look at us here. This is not they don't call
Speaker 1: it radio row anymore. It's media row. Yeah, because radio
Speaker 1: is out, new media like us is in. We're looking
Speaker 1: across and yeah, it is more like you know web shows.
Speaker 1: There's definitely you know, legitimate buzz. Is a big crowd
Speaker 1: already here on a Wednesday. It's going to get more
Speaker 1: and more wild as the week progresses. And we are
Speaker 1: here to yes, get you caught up to date with
Speaker 1: what's going on as we approach Eagles v. Chiefs on Sunday,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty seven. Roman numerals got me again. We're
Speaker 1: we're going anti Roman. Um. We also have some great
Speaker 1: guests coming up on today's show. UM. One of our
Speaker 1: favorite players from the team of around the NFL, Jamal Williams,
Speaker 1: will join us in just a bit. We also have
Speaker 1: to the best wide receivers in football. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: you might say these two of the five best wide
Speaker 1: receivers in football. We're gonna talk to top five. Mar
Speaker 1: Chase of the Bengals, Seedee Lamb of the Cowboys that's
Speaker 1: coming up as well. So we are here and I
Speaker 1: feel it. I feel the Jews, the electricity of the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. This is our tenth super Bowl as a group,
Speaker 1: and I have at the super Bowl site and I
Speaker 1: have to say, when I touched down in Phoenix, I
Speaker 1: still got the juice from it. I love it. I
Speaker 1: think we're also enjoying this set here, you know, shout
Speaker 1: out to my heart. It's almost like symbolic. The podcast
Speaker 1: has grown and now we're literally lifted off the ground.
Speaker 1: I think we're the highest set in the game. We
Speaker 1: asked for that in our country. I mean, also symbolic.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw this out there. Walked into my
Speaker 1: hotel room later than you guys ride in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night, and it's like the size of a
Speaker 1: small factory. It's massive. So my room is quite small.
Speaker 1: It's not because the first thing I did was text
Speaker 1: do they make a mistake? Because you know, you know
Speaker 1: it was No. It's the same as our um. And
Speaker 1: also keep in mind, Greg, when you're you're elevated on
Speaker 1: a stage, when you get too close to the sun, yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're flying high on borrowed wings, sometimes you come
Speaker 1: crashing into the ground. So don't both of you, especially
Speaker 1: Mr hotel suite man over here, don't get too high
Speaker 1: on your own supply. I think that's a good um
Speaker 1: And that was the Super Bowl. It's a good instructional
Speaker 1: for the two of us, the common man rankings. We're
Speaker 1: all taking a hit, and I embrace it. I'm actually
Speaker 1: staying in the boiler room holiday in under the airport.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do some news, let's get caught up
Speaker 1: on some stuff. Is this a must win game? I
Speaker 1: would tell you every game that's the way you go
Speaker 1: into it. You're not thinking that way, then should be doing. Travis,
Speaker 1: would you say this is a must win game? Is
Speaker 1: it a must win game? Yeah? I would consider it
Speaker 1: a must win game for sure, because you don't, you're
Speaker 1: going home without the trophy, So definitely a must win game.
Speaker 1: Is it a must win game? Well, they're all must
Speaker 1: win games, but this is more of a mustwin game.
Speaker 1: All the Eagles are great. Good. That was Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, and Jason Kelsey and of course
Speaker 1: the man asking the question the greatest question in the
Speaker 1: history of media night, the legendary Dave damashek Is the
Speaker 1: super Bowl a must win game? I love it. You
Speaker 1: could see someone them actually pondering the question for more
Speaker 1: than you know, a split second. My favorite part of
Speaker 1: it is every media night scene on Twitter during the night,
Speaker 1: outraged Cognescente being like someone so dumb that they asked
Speaker 1: this question. It's a mustwin? Can you believe it? He's
Speaker 1: got him? I love it. That's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: things here. We're now kind of the old heads where
Speaker 1: it's nice to see all our old friends. Last night
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of friends out Bill Barnwell and
Speaker 1: Mina and all the people from King It's like we're
Speaker 1: now those people we got dinner with, Like our friend
Speaker 1: Bob Glower. We used to see something I'd like to
Speaker 1: be that old veterans on the airplane in look at
Speaker 1: that He She talked to me about that. She said
Speaker 1: that you were very open with her conversation. We both
Speaker 1: said that we both shared a lot about our lives.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that later in the show. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and we're gonna get dinner with check tonight.
Speaker 1: How about that. I love it. I love the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Love super Bowl Week. Let's hit up the News starting
Speaker 1: with Derek Carr. The latest on Derek Carr, who of
Speaker 1: course is no longer in the Raider's plans, but still
Speaker 1: is a Raider at least from now. But you have
Speaker 1: you have a looming deadline to get a deal done,
Speaker 1: um in terms of contractual obligations. So this feels like
Speaker 1: it's happening soon. In NFL Networks, Ian Rapperport report the
Speaker 1: Raiders have granted Derek Carr permission to visit the Saints
Speaker 1: rap sheet added rap sheet. By the way, Who there
Speaker 1: he is right now in the distance. I heard somebody
Speaker 1: calling breaking this story right now. He pretends to be
Speaker 1: on the phone. Sometimes I think it's I think it too.
Speaker 1: I think it help me to feel like a strong man. Um.
Speaker 1: I heard my name being shouted. I'm looking around. I
Speaker 1: had headset on and then Jason Klement, our producer, pointed
Speaker 1: out Ian was walking out of my eyeview and I
Speaker 1: look over and he's just giving me the middle finger.
Speaker 1: And I just wonder, like, what's that about? Like where
Speaker 1: are we in our relationship that that's that's the greeting.
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew he and Greg had gone through
Speaker 1: a thorny period, but it's very antagonistic to treat you guys.
Speaker 1: You worked at you know, old school East Coast newspapers
Speaker 1: together back in the day. Right. That's so we're gonna
Speaker 1: have the newspaper row. We're gonna have to patch that
Speaker 1: up anyway. Rap Sheet adds that the visit is expected
Speaker 1: to happen on Wednesday, but that no deal is imminent
Speaker 1: between the two parties. Greggy, I know you are, you know,
Speaker 1: basically a Saints van at heart. You always are very
Speaker 1: high on the Saints when the new seas and is
Speaker 1: coming around. But I know I can promise you I
Speaker 1: was the sex season no matter what happened. Even Greg
Speaker 1: is probably gonna struggle to get excited about Derek car
Speaker 1: on the Saints and everything else going on with that team, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I think I can separate two things. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be high on them because of what I
Speaker 1: expect most of the roster to look like, and mostly
Speaker 1: they're coaching staff. I think Derek Carr is probably their
Speaker 1: best case scenario. What else are they gonna do? They
Speaker 1: don't have any draft picks. The idea that this deal
Speaker 1: is an imminent is obviously true. Ian's reporting that there
Speaker 1: would be a lot to work out. But with that
Speaker 1: deadline you mentioned, you know, pro football talks kind of
Speaker 1: putting out that it would he they'd be crazy to
Speaker 1: agree to a trade, and that a release is more
Speaker 1: likely than a trade. But like, why is he getting
Speaker 1: on the plane then, Like to me, if he's in
Speaker 1: New Orleans on Wednesday, they are by far the most aggressive.
Speaker 1: They're the leaders in the clubhouse. He wouldn't go unless
Speaker 1: he already had the idea that like, if this goes well,
Speaker 1: I'm becoming a Saint. So I think it's more likely
Speaker 1: then it's being put out there that this thing gets done.
Speaker 1: And if for some reason he does get released instead
Speaker 1: of a trade, that I would expect the Saints are
Speaker 1: the team that that signs him. I think Derek Carr
Speaker 1: wants to be wanted after the way things ended in
Speaker 1: our ending with Las Vegas. I think there's that part
Speaker 1: of it, and the enjoyment of being courted. The Saints
Speaker 1: are I know this never matters, but they are sixty
Speaker 1: million over the cap right now. They can make changes
Speaker 1: to fix that, and I trust Mickey Loomis when he
Speaker 1: steps away from his Pelicans duties to address the cap situation.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, but it's like, I mean that
Speaker 1: that they are. There's no treat his peloton duties. There's
Speaker 1: something pellet related that's keeping him from focusing on the
Speaker 1: football side of the operation. I'm looking at the Saints
Speaker 1: draft picks too. They got the twenty ninth overall pick, right,
Speaker 1: they got that for Peyton, So I shouldn't have said
Speaker 1: they have no picks. They got one. They got one
Speaker 1: pick in each of the seven rounds, And like, to
Speaker 1: my where I'm at on this is like, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: why get another stop gap guy? You had Jamis there,
Speaker 1: Obviously you had Dalton there. I think Car represents an
Speaker 1: upgrade on those two guy is, But what would it
Speaker 1: be better to start trying to develop at this point,
Speaker 1: get a young guy in there, and and go that route.
Speaker 1: That to me, it feels like a neutral move to
Speaker 1: to bring in Car for a team that to me,
Speaker 1: isn't that close. I think of all the guys who
Speaker 1: actually will be available, and I kind of think Gino
Speaker 1: and Dania Jones they put cards the best one, and
Speaker 1: I don't think their goal is winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I think their goal is winning nine games and not
Speaker 1: getting fired in January. I agree that's a problem, and
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll even reach that goal, but I
Speaker 1: think that's their goal. I absolutely agree with that. I
Speaker 1: think it's like, if you're that coaching staff, you can
Speaker 1: swing for a rookie, but you don't have a top
Speaker 1: ten pick there, And if it's Derek Carr probably provides
Speaker 1: the most stability. I do like they're setting their wide
Speaker 1: receivers and I think he's in an all right environment
Speaker 1: to succeed. Al Right, Well, we're gonna keep an eye
Speaker 1: in that whole situation. Let's talk about another quarterback. That's
Speaker 1: what we do. Yeah, that's what we do. We go
Speaker 1: around the NFL. Let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. There's a
Speaker 1: quarterback who could be a difference maker. However, you know
Speaker 1: a lot going on with Rogers, and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: every year that passes, there's a little bit more going
Speaker 1: on with Rogers. You know what I mean When I
Speaker 1: say that's just like I think he's just now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's growing and developed. Is there anyway ten years
Speaker 1: from now he's not doing some reality show where he
Speaker 1: has a he looks like Rick Rubin basically, and he's
Speaker 1: traveling the world and meditating twenty two hours a day.
Speaker 1: I think he's heading in this direction. So the fact
Speaker 1: that he's a professional football player. There's Joe Montana. I mean,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? This is unbelievable. Joe Montown
Speaker 1: is fifty yards away. People should check out this article,
Speaker 1: by the way, about Joe Montana, which almost a little depressing.
Speaker 1: Then how I don't think he's enjoyed Tom Brady um
Speaker 1: becoming the go and it almost might have like a
Speaker 1: little personal thing with Tom Brady. I recommend people reading
Speaker 1: right right. Thompson ESPN checked that out. I think that
Speaker 1: you know, not to get side tracked here, But just
Speaker 1: like how Lebron passed Kareem last night, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: no one's ever just gonna be the best forever if
Speaker 1: you could take it to be the best in your era.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people think about Tana.
Speaker 1: Was that dude? I would think that would be good enough.
Speaker 1: But these guys, obviously there's ego and pride involved. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. Someday we'll be, you know, sitting out
Speaker 1: on in the middle of a field while someone else
Speaker 1: does our podcast, and maybe we won't think it's so
Speaker 1: summary Ayahuascar or a deeper, Trea, we would have a
Speaker 1: generosity of spirit. I think Kareem maybe exhibits that maybe
Speaker 1: in a way maybe we wouldn't. Maybe we wouldn't or
Speaker 1: at least yeah, Kareem is playing the game the right way. Publicly,
Speaker 1: he probably didn't want ron T bassas record, but you
Speaker 1: know he's a human rights ambassador and all that. Let's
Speaker 1: get back on track. Taking us to Jay in a
Speaker 1: big spot, Well, would I just say, I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, Actually, come to think of it, he's Aaron Rodgers. Anyway.
Speaker 1: He was on the Pat McAfee show, as he always is,
Speaker 1: and he said before he makes any big decision about
Speaker 1: his one thing we've glossed over a little bit here
Speaker 1: is he hasn't outright said he's even playing next year.
Speaker 1: So that's in terms of what are the possibilities at
Speaker 1: least the way he's framing it right now is walking
Speaker 1: away from football is an option. He said that he
Speaker 1: is going to embark on a four day for night
Speaker 1: darkness retreat soon after Super Bowl UH Sunday, the thirty
Speaker 1: nine year old said he has not decided if he'll
Speaker 1: play UH and whether that's with the Packers or another team.
Speaker 1: There are obviously a lot of reports that he'll be
Speaker 1: traded like and all I want to know, And Mark,
Speaker 1: I know you want to know because you have a
Speaker 1: definitely a life path that could put you on a
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin look underground somewhere at some point. What does
Speaker 1: it mean to do a four day, fortnight isolation retreat,
Speaker 1: you know, city and isolation, meditation, dinning with your thoughts.
Speaker 1: It stimulates, uh, stimulates a d MT, so there can
Speaker 1: be some uh hallucinations in there, but it's it's just
Speaker 1: kind of sitting sitting in silence, which you know most
Speaker 1: of us never do you know, we rarely even turn
Speaker 1: our phone off or you know, put the blinds down
Speaker 1: to sleep in in in darkness. So I'm really looking
Speaker 1: forward to let's get this maniac in the New York
Speaker 1: sports market. Let's do it and phrase the chaos, you
Speaker 1: know what. I like. He obviously is an outlier among
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to to like suggest this type of thing, But
Speaker 1: I don't hate it, Like I kind of get I
Speaker 1: get it a little bit, and like I I don't know,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's not as fun to not a sling
Speaker 1: and arrow at him, but couldn't we use a little
Speaker 1: bit more of silence and contemplation in our life. I
Speaker 1: was intrigued. Want is looking at me like, well when
Speaker 1: he said that's a little performative, that's all. I get that.
Speaker 1: But I actually think he there's some sincere. I think
Speaker 1: he don't right. Yeah, I think he wants He is
Speaker 1: the type that wants people to I think he wants
Speaker 1: to be evangelist for it, you know that, like he
Speaker 1: wants other people to do this to become rise in
Speaker 1: the way that yeah, becoming wise, which maybe it's too much,
Speaker 1: but I was intrigued that you can have hallucinations and
Speaker 1: as he said, d m T experiences without any drugs.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I mean you've got me intrigued.
Speaker 1: You get the high, but there's actually no drugs involved.
Speaker 1: I will tell you something really quickly. I lived in Boston.
Speaker 1: Me more. I lived in Boston for two months back
Speaker 1: in the late nineties, and I needed to make money.
Speaker 1: I did a sleep study. Was a ten day long
Speaker 1: sleep study where they put you through the ringer where
Speaker 1: you're awake at one point for three straight days and
Speaker 1: your mind goes literally berserk, like you do see things,
Speaker 1: your mind operates. I think we're using like two percent
Speaker 1: of our mind if even that okay, and when I
Speaker 1: when I screamed out the word drugs at the top
Speaker 1: of my lungs, here are shadowy link figure on the
Speaker 1: zet that's kind of like perked out that I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I should shut up about this. It makes sense that
Speaker 1: this is where he wants to make decision that you
Speaker 1: do want maybe you want to do it as quickly
Speaker 1: as possible. He also said it was ridiculous to say
Speaker 1: he wouldn't retire just because Tom Brady's diary. He'd be
Speaker 1: happy to like share the Hall of Fame podium with
Speaker 1: him and Jo But he's clearly probably right. I do
Speaker 1: what they do, seem to tool back and forth to
Speaker 1: grab the headlines rogers And yeah, I did want to
Speaker 1: mention they do bring him food and you are allowed
Speaker 1: to leave, Like if you're not vibing with it, you
Speaker 1: can just go. They're not gonna lock you in and
Speaker 1: you don't see the people, but they bring you three
Speaker 1: meals a day, so it's not through a hole, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they like shove it in almost. I just want to
Speaker 1: know what food. So it's basically like solitary confinement at
Speaker 1: the at the Rock. But you can leave. I think
Speaker 1: that was crucial. I was like, what if it doesn't
Speaker 1: go well? Um? But then you know, you just get
Speaker 1: out of there. All right, let's move on. Good luck
Speaker 1: Darren Rodgers on this journey, all right. In other news,
Speaker 1: let's do a little Super Bowl injury update news. Let's
Speaker 1: start with the Chiefs or the Eagles are very healthy
Speaker 1: by the way, So the Eagles are in very good
Speaker 1: shape going into the game. Um Darius Tony on the
Speaker 1: Chief side of things, the wide receiver said he will
Speaker 1: definitely play uh in the Super Bowl. He's listed as
Speaker 1: questionable UM after going down in the first quarter of
Speaker 1: the a f C title game. Um did not return
Speaker 1: to that game, but he is practicing again, as is Uh.
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster also listed as questionable, but he is
Speaker 1: back on the practice field. And more good news for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs as well, because Legarius Need also Um on
Speaker 1: track to play. He was cleared from the concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: These are three big time players. Mark. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's the argument for the two week break between the
Speaker 1: title game and this because you know, had it been
Speaker 1: last Sunday, I'm not sure where we'd be with these guys.
Speaker 1: I just look at hi Darius Tony because we've seen
Speaker 1: it in Spurts as the absolute X factor for Kansas
Speaker 1: City in this game. I think they, you know, because
Speaker 1: he's been in and out of the lineup and he's
Speaker 1: been used sparingly that it's a perfect set up for
Speaker 1: Andy Reid to create three or four plays where he
Speaker 1: is the centerpiece and he's unguardable if they get him
Speaker 1: in the right place in the field, especially in the
Speaker 1: red zone. I mean, they they survived the game they
Speaker 1: should have lost against Cincinnati. Losing those are serious. We'll
Speaker 1: get to the preview. We got Mad Dog on on
Speaker 1: Thursday for our preview show. I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: But it does feel different for us personally because we're
Speaker 1: not we were at Opening Night. We're not at the
Speaker 1: team availabilities. But both these teams there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of drama to it, which I love. It's like football.
Speaker 1: They're both great teams. Not saying they aren't good interviews,
Speaker 1: but they're not making like screaming headlines that everyone gets
Speaker 1: all worked up about. It's about the ball. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that. Right. Uh Sneed said he's a percent, by
Speaker 1: the way, which is impossible. Yeah, you're asking a bunch
Speaker 1: of it's not what's the truth, and Spags told NFL
Speaker 1: media it's huge getting that quarterback back on the field.
Speaker 1: In hiring news, Brian Flores, Uh, this is weird the
Speaker 1: timing a little bit on this one because on Monday
Speaker 1: show we talked about the Florist was a finalist for
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals job, and then almost immediately we learned
Speaker 1: that he is being hired by the Vikings to become
Speaker 1: their new defensive coordinator. What gives Greggy, Well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to just throw an irresponsible speculation out there. That's what
Speaker 1: I do some things. I don't think he probably knew
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting that job, and he probably didn't like
Speaker 1: to be used as like a token um personally that
Speaker 1: they're putting out there that he was a finalist when
Speaker 1: he didn't really feel like it was a finalist, So
Speaker 1: he took the job that was there. You know, I
Speaker 1: think that's well. They could be waiting this game. They
Speaker 1: are talking to Lewin and Remote later this week, but
Speaker 1: the fact that they're taking so long and the culture
Speaker 1: taking along, makes me think there's probably someone in this game,
Speaker 1: whether it's Jonathan Gannon or Shane Styke and that or
Speaker 1: Eric b enemy who knows that they could want all right,
Speaker 1: the last to San Francisco Forts defensive viators. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: shouldn't touch on that. The Vikings. The reason why a
Speaker 1: lot of people, including myself, didn't take him seriously is
Speaker 1: because their defense was a wreck. So it reminds me
Speaker 1: he will make them better, right. It reminds me of
Speaker 1: when dal Lists went from a Mike Nolan led defense
Speaker 1: that was an absolute disaster. Insert Dan Quinn. It becomes
Speaker 1: a team's strength. I think the Flores is an incredible
Speaker 1: higher and they need they need bodies, they need players,
Speaker 1: they need players. But I mean, I think this is
Speaker 1: a coud a top for the Vikings. The forty Niners
Speaker 1: moment when when Mark break, you know it's Super Bowl weak,
Speaker 1: big digger. Can we start doing a little ding whatever?
Speaker 1: Mark says, coda. Now he's not gonna if he says violent,
Speaker 1: da we do a double ding. Just that's a little female.
Speaker 1: It's just an absolute circus. Anyway, the last two d
Speaker 1: c s for the Niners turned into head coaches and
Speaker 1: Bob's salah uh. And then of course Ko Ryan's who
Speaker 1: just got hired by the Texans. And now it's Steve
Speaker 1: Wilkes who heads to that role. The former Panthers interim
Speaker 1: head co joined San Francisco is their d C. Uh, Greg,
Speaker 1: this is solid high higher as well. It's a great
Speaker 1: higher and Uh. I know they like to develop their
Speaker 1: own coaches, but having a guy like Wilkes coming from
Speaker 1: the outside, I do think they have a few more
Speaker 1: questions then normal. Like just when I was looking at
Speaker 1: their roster and and getting ready right and at an
Speaker 1: article up about what each team needs to they're a
Speaker 1: little thinner on the defensive, whine like they've actually got
Speaker 1: some That's why I think they should just stand paddock quarterback,
Speaker 1: worry about everything else. Make the rest of the team
Speaker 1: so good. Your quarterback proof wilts everywhere he goes. It's
Speaker 1: like you hear the players love playing form, so I
Speaker 1: think that's great for them. But I do worry about
Speaker 1: a team. I mean, Wilkes is a good higher, but
Speaker 1: you've had three coordinators and four seasons. At some point
Speaker 1: your luck runs out on that front. I mean we've
Speaker 1: seen that with New England last season. Uh. And finally,
Speaker 1: in the news, a lot of questions about the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans in general. But let's center at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: In this conversation, Ryan Tannehill his future remains unknown. The
Speaker 1: Titans promoted Tim Kelly from past and game coordinator to
Speaker 1: o C on Tuesday, and in his news conference, head
Speaker 1: coach Mike Brabel said he kept Ryan Tannehill quote in
Speaker 1: the loop on the higher Um. Rabel went on to
Speaker 1: say that he seemed excited Tannehill did about what we're
Speaker 1: going to do and what we're doing with. Rabel also
Speaker 1: added that Ryan Tannehill is in the building every day.
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, are you starting to feel or have you
Speaker 1: felt the whole time that Tannehill will remain uh quarterback
Speaker 1: of the Titans? Yeah? I do. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: I thought we were going to get him there, but
Speaker 1: he was ready. Everyone slugged in his Super Bowl week
Speaker 1: super Bowl Week. Yeah, I don't know if I felt
Speaker 1: like it all the time. I got a little excited
Speaker 1: last week when Mark started talking about trading him to
Speaker 1: the Falcons and like the new air of what it
Speaker 1: could be. But I have kind of thought Tannehill will
Speaker 1: be the quarterback of the Titans for at least another season.
Speaker 1: So Tim Kelly internal promotion, Why did it take so long?
Speaker 1: I don't know they were interviewing. Apparently reports out that
Speaker 1: they wanted to interview the Enemy and Matt Naggy Enough
Speaker 1: they did. Um it felt like they were waiting for
Speaker 1: those guys, and then they announced the move this week.
Speaker 1: So they did hire Charles London to be an assistant
Speaker 1: like passing game coordinator, and he was coaching with the
Speaker 1: Falcons quarterbacks coach of the Falcons last two seasons. So
Speaker 1: maybe that mark do something too. The idea that something
Speaker 1: that you can say in the show could excite justin
Speaker 1: Graver the way it did. Know it that forced me
Speaker 1: because he's not on my eyeline. I had to put
Speaker 1: back off my chair and look between Dan and Greg
Speaker 1: just to see the look on his But it's attempting
Speaker 1: to excite him with that, because I think that would
Speaker 1: annoy most Titans fans. Were you attempting to titilate our producer? Sure,
Speaker 1: I am attempting to. I cannot. He hasn't he has
Speaker 1: on powers. That disturbed me to some degree because it's
Speaker 1: those sound drops that he can, you know, insert into
Speaker 1: the show at will at any moment. So I tried
Speaker 1: to play ball with him edit that out of the show. Producer.
Speaker 1: The problem is the drops, Yes, producer, you cannot tell
Speaker 1: if they're in real time or not. I think it's
Speaker 1: slightly I mean, I would say in terms of this
Speaker 1: era of being able to uh, you know, modulate people's
Speaker 1: voices and faces and videos. For that to be hitting
Speaker 1: our podcast and you specifically, it has to be troubling. Yep, No,
Speaker 1: it isn't because I have the rights to myself. So
Speaker 1: you need to furnish me with a bundle of cash
Speaker 1: and then I just go sit a door you and
Speaker 1: think that you're wonderful your job. I'm glad this came
Speaker 1: down in a good place. All right, that is what's
Speaker 1: happening in the news. All right, let's take a break,
Speaker 1: and then we will welcome on a man that I
Speaker 1: think is gonna be a best friend when it's all done.
Speaker 1: We've said this before, but I think this time's gonna
Speaker 1: go better than with and I believe, I hope. So
Speaker 1: a little team of a tan talk with a very
Speaker 1: special guest up next. All right, we got a guest.
Speaker 1: It's a good one. It's a big one. I gotta
Speaker 1: be honestly, I'm more excited about this man joining us
Speaker 1: than anyone else. Why because he basically said, hey, Barry Sanders,
Speaker 1: take a hike. Now the touchdown record, now say such
Speaker 1: a thing. You would never do such a thing with
Speaker 1: such a great player. But Jamal Williams is with us, yes,
Speaker 1: and he is coming off the season in which he
Speaker 1: scored seventeen touchdowns, setting the Lions record. The Lions who.
Speaker 1: By the way, Jamal Williams the team of around the NFL.
Speaker 1: We got behind you, guys and celebrated every moment along
Speaker 1: the way. So thank you for joining us, and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk to you right now. It's thank you.
Speaker 1: Everybody's dressed, so Marvel is over here. We've never Oh no,
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, what your chain says. First
Speaker 1: of all, okay, President, I'm saying you're you're giving us compliments.
Speaker 1: You asked us where our coats were from. I think
Speaker 1: that's a sign that we're stepping up. Said that, you know,
Speaker 1: I just got to kind of go in the kids
Speaker 1: section if you want to get it. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: because I'm one day I'm going to grow into the
Speaker 1: mold of I'm wear suits. Not yet, but I want
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm comfortable too. But I like that
Speaker 1: Jackie yeah, this, I think you can get this a target.
Speaker 1: I think you're it's all available on you. You've got
Speaker 1: the accessory game, though, going in a way that none
Speaker 1: of us would ever be able to. Believe me, everything
Speaker 1: you see somebody has given to me as a gift,
Speaker 1: like the coach Fannie pack and then enough have little
Speaker 1: all from fans. It reminds me of my kids backpacks
Speaker 1: a little bit, a lot of Oh, I'm a kid,
Speaker 1: for sure, I will relate more to the kids than
Speaker 1: which all fans. That's true, that's fine. So Jamal like
Speaker 1: such a crazy season because we followed Hard Knocks very closely,
Speaker 1: where you were a star on Hard Knocks. We get
Speaker 1: a Jamal Williams Hard Knocks clip, please don't tripp I
Speaker 1: don't even remember saying that one. And that was fun,
Speaker 1: and the Lions were a great Hard Knocks team. And
Speaker 1: then the season starts not so hot, but then you
Speaker 1: guys turn it on. And I thought it was so
Speaker 1: fitting for people that did follow the journey of the
Speaker 1: team and you that after the final game of the
Speaker 1: season Sunday Night Football. Uh, you know when the whole
Speaker 1: idea of that game was thoh, Aaron Rodgers is gonna
Speaker 1: punch his ticket to the playoffs, even though the Lions
Speaker 1: were mathematically eliminated. Who was it that was being interviewed
Speaker 1: after the game and giving like an iconic postgame interview.
Speaker 1: It was our guy, Jamal Williams. Do you mind if
Speaker 1: we play a little clip of your post game go
Speaker 1: ahead compliments? Make me feel do this for you. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of memories, a lot of most inhabited
Speaker 1: right now. But I'm just grateful, grateful to be able
Speaker 1: to play this game from our great great grandfather. And
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's looking down at me. I know
Speaker 1: I'm making him proud him. Yeah, this is for him
Speaker 1: in other days. Stop playing us, man, we made we
Speaker 1: had a Detroit Lions. We did a Detroit Lions. Stop
Speaker 1: playing with us. I don't even watch TV, but I
Speaker 1: heard everybody already pick the Packers over us. Yeah, yeahn't
Speaker 1: let it fish. I was in just this, just like
Speaker 1: the transition. I'll never forget that interview, because the transition
Speaker 1: from the very touching comments about your great grandfather to
Speaker 1: everybody that doubted us, go take a dirt nap, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's because I had a lot on my mind.
Speaker 1: At the time, that's all. And I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure I gave my respects to my great grandfather.
Speaker 1: And then after that, I just thought about, you know,
Speaker 1: as what we've been through as a team. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's just you know, I've never been I don't think
Speaker 1: I've been the player of the game for yeah. And
Speaker 1: so it was just like when I seen the ball
Speaker 1: they gave me two ball, I was like, wow, I'm
Speaker 1: like I had a great game. And then the first
Speaker 1: thing I thought about, just make sure I gave my
Speaker 1: praise to my great grandfather and my my great grandmother too.
Speaker 1: They both gossed away at now you too, but they
Speaker 1: both together now living in heaven. So I'm just happy
Speaker 1: to be able to give a performance for him as
Speaker 1: my last game. And then after that just let people
Speaker 1: know to just stop playing the lions like this. It
Speaker 1: dropping on like a big song or something. It was like,
Speaker 1: hold up, like, let's flip it there. This is my mind.
Speaker 1: I just flip it real quick, That's why. But where
Speaker 1: I do. You're watching you on Hard Knocks and sort
Speaker 1: of anything you've done with the media. You are like
Speaker 1: a word smith. You have a bit of a poetry
Speaker 1: kind of thing. To you where it comes from. I mean,
Speaker 1: I consider myself like you have y'all seen Potty Tang. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta say that they know my brother like I
Speaker 1: really feel like I've been talking like that. Like my
Speaker 1: words sometimes I want to say a certain way, but
Speaker 1: my words be mixed up in a different type of ways.
Speaker 1: Off I say, I love using Potti Tang as like
Speaker 1: inspiration for your life. I don't know if like they
Speaker 1: look back on pouttie Tang as the greatest moment in
Speaker 1: their lives, and yet I do. Uh a comic genius
Speaker 1: right there. I don't think they really understand how funny
Speaker 1: potty Tange really is though, looking up? Do you ever
Speaker 1: feel bad when you scarre? Luis c k directed Potti Tang? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was talking about, Luis c k Um,
Speaker 1: you get who the other comedian is and then obviously
Speaker 1: yeah they funny. Wait, wait, are you the youngest out
Speaker 1: of you? I'm by one year. I got it by
Speaker 1: a year one year. Hold do you I'm much older
Speaker 1: than these two. They'll have you know that. You just
Speaker 1: the silver man over there. It's so smooth when you
Speaker 1: have gray hair like your tips. Yeah, yeah, you're asked,
Speaker 1: asking us before, Yeah, you're asking if we get into
Speaker 1: fights because oh yeah, for so long. They've been together
Speaker 1: for so long. And I asked them do they fight?
Speaker 1: They say, like a boy band, And then I asked,
Speaker 1: who said rock band? That's fine, but buk, you know metal?
Speaker 1: You know it don't matter. Metallica, whichever y'all want to be.
Speaker 1: I would to say, we're quite Metallica. Either we're like
Speaker 1: a soul asylum or something somewhere in the middle of that.
Speaker 1: That's I can see. I'll be that one Germany band
Speaker 1: group that go DoD Yeah, now we're talking. You could
Speaker 1: definitely be on the on the walking thing German playing
Speaker 1: and doing the German quickly. I like you though, because
Speaker 1: you go right to the beat of the issue right way,
Speaker 1: immediately asking who's the lead singer? Yeah, who is the
Speaker 1: lead singer? I'm the host the show. Listen, you know
Speaker 1: what crazy, I'll know y'all rule like y'all just a
Speaker 1: little happy for a team. We gotta we gotta good time.
Speaker 1: That's great. Got you gotta pass the ball, Pass the ball, Lion, Like,
Speaker 1: do you ever feel bad stealing all those touchdowns from
Speaker 1: DeAndre so because you weren't my my son's favorite guy
Speaker 1: because he had DeAndre on his fantasy team. And it's
Speaker 1: like this guy Jama comes in and just you're the
Speaker 1: lead singer of that backfield. That's be honest, listen. I
Speaker 1: told all right, I told my teammates and everything, finish
Speaker 1: your food because once you get to the goal line,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish it for you. That's nice. It What
Speaker 1: is it? What was it like? You know, with the city,
Speaker 1: you know, getting so wrapped up as that season went
Speaker 1: along and and kind of spinning forward him, I like,
Speaker 1: now next summer, it's not gonna be only about like
Speaker 1: the cute, cuddly lions. There's gonna be actual expectations. Do
Speaker 1: you think you guys are built to handle that? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we'd be ready for it. But it's just more of
Speaker 1: just taking your time with it and enjoying the process
Speaker 1: and just get make sure you get like growing now.
Speaker 1: Like being on the Green Bay Packers, I was like,
Speaker 1: rookie little guy, didn't really have the talk. We had
Speaker 1: vets for that. You know, get everybody ready. You ain't
Speaker 1: gotta get me ready. I'm always ready. But now that
Speaker 1: I'm on the line, like I'm a leader. Now, I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta be vocal, and you know, I rather
Speaker 1: leave by action. You know, you like to stuff have
Speaker 1: to be that's just the extra level of trying to
Speaker 1: be a leader. But I'd rather be the leader by
Speaker 1: example only. But if I want to grow and be
Speaker 1: that man that I know I can be and do
Speaker 1: things that I've never seen myself doing, I gotta talk
Speaker 1: and let them understand, you know, how I'm feeling and
Speaker 1: what this means to me, Because I feel like the
Speaker 1: more you find out how much you know the game
Speaker 1: is from your teammates, the more that makes you want
Speaker 1: to pour in and do the best that you can
Speaker 1: and let them know that it's serious for you to
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Packers. Did you see this Rogers four
Speaker 1: day Fortnite Darkness Retreat? I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna like lock himself in the room and contemplate,
Speaker 1: and he think, he said it gives him a natural
Speaker 1: high and he might stay in them the whole time.
Speaker 1: He might leave occasionally. Would you do something like do
Speaker 1: you need to do something like that? I feel like
Speaker 1: you're a stimulated guy with your love of anime. I
Speaker 1: feel like you wouldn't be able to go dark for
Speaker 1: four days. Well, I mean, watch an anime. There's people
Speaker 1: with animal do things like that all time, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it, but I wouldn't do it personally. I
Speaker 1: just watch the anime, play video game, you know, cons
Speaker 1: play life right there, I'm pretty good. Really. We've got
Speaker 1: to tell you one time, the combiness in Indianapolis, I
Speaker 1: would join him though, I would just would do it.
Speaker 1: I would experience. You got to experience things once. Well,
Speaker 1: it depends on you have to be separate, because he
Speaker 1: just would be like, Jamal, can you separate room? I'm
Speaker 1: the most promise, I'm the most quiet person ever. Give
Speaker 1: me listen. All you gotta do is give me a
Speaker 1: room in your house, give me a outlet, the TV
Speaker 1: and WiFi. You don't even know I'm there. The only
Speaker 1: thing you would be like it is why is there
Speaker 1: always people dropping food off in my front door? That
Speaker 1: was That would literally be it, so you won't even
Speaker 1: hear me. Do you have do you have, like, um,
Speaker 1: a house or condor or whatever that's just very sparse
Speaker 1: but has a very incredible entertainment centers picturing it. I
Speaker 1: don't even have my own house yet. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm still working. I'm still saving another contract, another game
Speaker 1: like this, A contract is gonna come. That's gonna well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of a lot of emotions into watching the Jamal
Speaker 1: Williams and Detroit Lions journey. Like we said we pick
Speaker 1: a team officially, when we said you're the team of
Speaker 1: the Round the NFL Podcast, we picked them officially, Lions
Speaker 1: were our team. So like, you're not gonna You're not
Speaker 1: gonna leave us, right, like like your your free agent soft.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, is it good? Guys are too smart.
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one. I got the choice in this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to be there, That's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: want to be in Detroit. Leave it there. It's not
Speaker 1: you know what I mean if I don't our goals
Speaker 1: and we're but I want to be in Detroit. Brad
Speaker 1: Holmes is a huge around the NFL Podcast fan, so
Speaker 1: he's listening to Brad knows I want to be in Detroit. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: let him know. I want to be there. I like
Speaker 1: the energy, I like the coaches. I just like the
Speaker 1: environment and where we're hitting, you know, as a as
Speaker 1: a team. So I just can't wait to see Have
Speaker 1: you ever seen Dan Campbell cry cry? Yeah? Sort of
Speaker 1: kind of. I want to say, an emotional cry just
Speaker 1: because he cares, you know, So I think it's more
Speaker 1: of when he started getting I think anybody when they
Speaker 1: start getting angry a little bit, you tear up just
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know your eyes are watery. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't you know, like I said, don't let them
Speaker 1: tears fool you. He's all dog in there. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I run people over crying. I'll do it. Well. That's
Speaker 1: again why that's Sunday I Football Interview. Like it showed
Speaker 1: the both both sides of Jamal. It's all there right there,
Speaker 1: that two minute bite. Um, you know, speaking of the
Speaker 1: team of around the NFL. We have a theme song
Speaker 1: that we play and we we wrote it and we
Speaker 1: had a friend of ours recorded and like, I'm curious
Speaker 1: if you aren't into it, like we would like you
Speaker 1: to give a like put on your music review hat.
Speaker 1: Did y'all wrap? Y'all wrap? No, we're not we're not
Speaker 1: singing in it. Did you join in? Yeah? It's not
Speaker 1: a rap, But do you like like you like rock
Speaker 1: music all day? If I had to choose I'll be
Speaker 1: a heaven Dick Banks the one man house band with
Speaker 1: a Team of Around the NFL theme with Jamal Williams,
Speaker 1: starr of the Team of the Around the NFL, listening
Speaker 1: in and giving his review. Hit it justin. It's starting
Speaker 1: out good. Team, that's pretty good. I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 1: for me more than anything. When I listen to music,
Speaker 1: I just like to beat. So if you beat it
Speaker 1: south and like I like it, that's got to look.
Speaker 1: I want to call it Romstein. But it's got a
Speaker 1: little bit of it's got a heaviness to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been doing this show a long time. We have
Speaker 1: never had a member of the team of a t
Speaker 1: il sing along progress of the song. I think that
Speaker 1: means we got to run it back with progress. I
Speaker 1: got it once. I heard team once. I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on the next team. Do you have anything
Speaker 1: else you want to add before we shake? Oh? I
Speaker 1: just want to be luck there or look what there?
Speaker 1: Which one here? I think that one? All right? I
Speaker 1: just want to give a shout out to my friends
Speaker 1: back home in the I e. Inland Empire. Baby. I
Speaker 1: just want to let y'all know, man, I miss y'all.
Speaker 1: I love y'all. I can't wait to be back home
Speaker 1: again and then go out there and get you some
Speaker 1: good eat stuff and that's our stuff back home. We're
Speaker 1: trying it as a Good East foundation. We give him
Speaker 1: back to our back home in i E. So if
Speaker 1: you ever want to go and just give our donate,
Speaker 1: donate or help out good eats, good ease. Doctor beautiful.
Speaker 1: All right, Jamal, thank you so much for man, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate the what going forward. And we hope you're
Speaker 1: on the lines because we want to run back to
Speaker 1: maybe the Lions, yeah, or maybe we just followed. We're
Speaker 1: not doing it. If Jamal's out there, Oh, Jamal Williams,
Speaker 1: everybody there, he goes Jamal Williams. I thought that when
Speaker 1: very well. I like that man. He is. He's a
Speaker 1: different cat um. But the fact that he got into
Speaker 1: the theme of a t N that that even took
Speaker 1: her up took another level for me. I mean, these
Speaker 1: player interviews can go all over the place, and he
Speaker 1: came in hot asking us in depth questions about our show,
Speaker 1: about the dynamics between us, who was sort of the
Speaker 1: leader of the show, and we got into fights a
Speaker 1: lot because we've been doing it for so long. I
Speaker 1: love that he cared like our wardrobe that's never happened.
Speaker 1: Said that I wish I had asked him like I
Speaker 1: I once faithfully asked Cavan about friendship, because I think
Speaker 1: the answer would have been different. And I think if
Speaker 1: we were going to have a player who would pop
Speaker 1: in every once in a while, just as like an
Speaker 1: a guest host, I think it'd be too. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe we don't bring up the aren't you our friend
Speaker 1: thing and we just send off the hand off, just
Speaker 1: be friends. Yeah, just let it. Think Mark knows how
Speaker 1: to make people that work for it want it before
Speaker 1: and for you, Mark, Greg, you wanted the cave on
Speaker 1: things so badly that it's almost like Mark and I
Speaker 1: paid the price I had it because guys blew it.
Speaker 1: Greg's like I'm on vacation now. Dan and Mark take
Speaker 1: bullets to the middle of the head. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a break and then, uh, we'll get some more
Speaker 1: guests in here. We got to the best wide receivers
Speaker 1: in the league coming up next. Alright, our next guest
Speaker 1: is one of the best players in the NFL, c
Speaker 1: Ed Lamb, Star wide receiver of the Dallas Cowboys. You
Speaker 1: know it's Super Bowl week when in a non ironic way,
Speaker 1: or there's not even any need to explain any further.
Speaker 1: The Great City Land is sitting there and in front
Speaker 1: of him is deodorant, just the bar of deodorant. Look
Speaker 1: crazy here, Cedee Lamb, if you can't tell, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely old Spice. They got a new plant on the
Speaker 1: deodorant Swagger seven, longer lasting, keep you feeling fresh man.
Speaker 1: I showed up in the hotel last night and this
Speaker 1: morning in the day's opened up all my bathroom items
Speaker 1: and I literally forgot deodorant and had to go downstairs
Speaker 1: to the little hotel shop and I bought a product
Speaker 1: that was not Old Spice. So I just just ask
Speaker 1: c D if you need He's literally this is the kids, man,
Speaker 1: this is this. It's how the really, I mean, Mark
Speaker 1: does have the least about the swagger out of the Okay, CD,
Speaker 1: how how are you buddy? This is obviously uh. As
Speaker 1: we come up on the Super Bowl that is that's
Speaker 1: the goal. The Cowboys once again got close, but no cigar,
Speaker 1: Like where's your vibe on? Like where the Dallas Cowboys are?
Speaker 1: As we head towards another new season. Unfortunately, here we
Speaker 1: are again, but I hate I hate being close. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone on the team does, and we owe
Speaker 1: it to all offense. Has been quite some time since
Speaker 1: the last time we've had a Lombardi come back to Dallas.
Speaker 1: But just being I'm grateful to be here, grateful all
Speaker 1: of the experience and being here in Arizona, in this atmosphere.
Speaker 1: It's not like so you had, you had a monster season.
Speaker 1: I found it weird. Your season almost went a little
Speaker 1: under the radar considering you're like the Dallas Cowboys number
Speaker 1: one ride receiver, like a big step up. I h
Speaker 1: over a hundred catches th yards. I feel like all
Speaker 1: the big time wide receivers. This is just a theory,
Speaker 1: like why don't why I'm gonna ask you first, why
Speaker 1: do you think maybe you're not getting quite as much
Speaker 1: pop as other receivers because Dallas Cowboys and um, the
Speaker 1: first five games, I didn't have that, but it was
Speaker 1: still a lot of consistency going on. So I didn't
Speaker 1: have my first hundred yard game until like week ten.
Speaker 1: So my theory is you do everything well, like you're
Speaker 1: very physical, you run routes well, you you get open
Speaker 1: you also get like you you're you're a little bit
Speaker 1: of You're a guy who can do everything. Maybe you
Speaker 1: need to make something your one thing as a branding,
Speaker 1: Like what would your one thing be as a receiver? Uh?
Speaker 1: One on one balls? You can't jump in the kettle
Speaker 1: because that's been taken already the show perfect Perfect. What
Speaker 1: is it you mentioned Dak because like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like we cover the game, this is our tenth super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and it's like the obsession with the quarterback is always
Speaker 1: a thing with the Cowboys. It was with Romo before Dac,
Speaker 1: and now it's Dack. Part of you being the number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver, you always have to be answering questions
Speaker 1: about Dac. Why isn't he this? Why is he that? Um?
Speaker 1: After a tough ending of the season, Like, how does
Speaker 1: this team take that next step with Dak? I know
Speaker 1: we have a new offensive coordinator in the mix. What
Speaker 1: else does this team need to do in terms to
Speaker 1: to make that step to get to the title again,
Speaker 1: to get to the Super Bowl? You got a Sunda
Speaker 1: stare like that. Um, go look at the Eagles and
Speaker 1: they got three receivers. Um, great tight end group. Uh,
Speaker 1: they run the ball well, a line is very phenomenal.
Speaker 1: He'd look at sand for they got they surrounded their quarterback,
Speaker 1: and uh, to get you get success ultimately. I mean
Speaker 1: granted we got we got just you know, as many weapons,
Speaker 1: but that extra player or that that that one, all
Speaker 1: all that tastes one. You know, you could be so
Speaker 1: close in that to the to the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: it could be a deciding factor. So I feel like
Speaker 1: just keeping him, just keeping him comfortable in the pocket,
Speaker 1: just keeping just keeping him surrounded with you know whatever
Speaker 1: it's production should I say? And uh, you gotta stay
Speaker 1: healthy and when you you know, last offseason, I think
Speaker 1: an early narrative with the Cowboys when it comes to
Speaker 1: weapons was a Marii Cooper traded for like a bag
Speaker 1: of spoons, and it was like, wait a minute, like
Speaker 1: what are we doing taking this big talent? You guys
Speaker 1: all looked up to him, and I'm sure as well
Speaker 1: off the roster. He's not really replaced in any way.
Speaker 1: Do you guys like text each other and just be like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here with this kind of move? No,
Speaker 1: we for sure it takes each other just kind of
Speaker 1: because nine times out of the time we don't really
Speaker 1: know that it's coming, you know, until his his the
Speaker 1: market or his internet. So kind of confusing men. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. You never do want a question
Speaker 1: is just all on stepping up and in the and
Speaker 1: and the progress of being confused. You just want to
Speaker 1: You gotta do what you gotta do. Did you like
Speaker 1: how Mark you know for our listeners, because it's also
Speaker 1: an audio podcast, showed you what texting is like operates
Speaker 1: you actually show a showman. Yeah, it's an audio show.
Speaker 1: So it was of no help at all. So you
Speaker 1: consider yourself a showman pretty much? I guess I'm performing.
Speaker 1: I think that's what Greg might have been getting out earlier.
Speaker 1: He wants you to, I guess stand out more. No,
Speaker 1: I think what it is. I think people that really
Speaker 1: know it's not so much that I think I thought
Speaker 1: you got a lot better. Do you do you think
Speaker 1: you're that's accurate? This year that you took like another
Speaker 1: level up? I took a step, like, how do you
Speaker 1: think you did it? What I was saying is I
Speaker 1: think people that watch the game see you and put
Speaker 1: you in that class with the Jamaar Chase and Justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson that like, you took that leap this year to
Speaker 1: get there. So I guess I was just trying to
Speaker 1: figure out the disconnecting. Yeah, for sure. I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like in a situation to where you don't have
Speaker 1: your quarterback for the first five I'm gonna keep hoighlighting
Speaker 1: it because it's crazy, Um, you don't have your first
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback first five games, and then he come
Speaker 1: back and then like it takes him about a game
Speaker 1: or two to get acclam it, you know, in the season.
Speaker 1: And now we're already, you know, in week nine, week ten.
Speaker 1: And mind you, when I was week five, like week nine,
Speaker 1: week ten, a lot of guys already had a thousand year.
Speaker 1: I was pushing thousand, a hundred, you know, and I
Speaker 1: still managed to be in the conversation. And then once
Speaker 1: we got once I got dagbaged, the offense got rolling again,
Speaker 1: and then you know, the numbers started doing what they do,
Speaker 1: and um, all a part of that is just staying
Speaker 1: true to myself, staying through the grind and understanding if
Speaker 1: I had my one the whole season, who knows that
Speaker 1: the numbers are, Like, I gotta ask you something that's
Speaker 1: a little bit off the range of football. Um. This
Speaker 1: podcast goes back ten years and Dan and I about
Speaker 1: a decade ago, did a show about um. Eric Berry,
Speaker 1: the old Chiefs Defender UM had was petrified of horses,
Speaker 1: like very very scared of them. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know where it's certainly probably came. I know, I know
Speaker 1: I read that you were just you for a whole life.
Speaker 1: You've been riding horses. You grew up on a ranche.
Speaker 1: I mean, how would you help someone like Eric Berry
Speaker 1: overcome that? You can help him out? Feel like in
Speaker 1: a city once you once you've made your mind up,
Speaker 1: that's something that you're not going to get yourself into that.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's no change in mind. Like me,
Speaker 1: I would never I'm afraid of heights like I'm terrified
Speaker 1: and uh so you don't want to be on look
Speaker 1: on a super tall for sleep? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. I don't know why I'm cool
Speaker 1: with those types of hides, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm buildings are all the closest. Yeah, I'm cool
Speaker 1: with I'm cool on those. But I guess man taken
Speaker 1: for spin like he got is only he got to
Speaker 1: get on the back of wars in control. You you've
Speaker 1: played with like so many big name quarterback that's wild.
Speaker 1: Maybe you maybe you are the key to all these
Speaker 1: guys the Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurt, Kyler Murray, and Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: how many like? First of all, I don't know if
Speaker 1: any wide receivers played with a bunch of names like that,
Speaker 1: But if you could compare them in terms of how
Speaker 1: their passes are, like, how are their passes are different?
Speaker 1: I just want to know how they're different though, because
Speaker 1: people talk about like, oh, he throws a good ball,
Speaker 1: or he throws this or the like, how are they
Speaker 1: How are they different in terms of how they throw them?
Speaker 1: They judge it off of pretty much. I feel like
Speaker 1: the throwing power or depending on the situation. So if
Speaker 1: we running a slant right and you're throwing it in
Speaker 1: between two people, I expect you to have a lot
Speaker 1: more firepower than you would if I'm running a one
Speaker 1: on one slant right. So like the ability to put
Speaker 1: the ball in a certain area depending on the coverage right.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's where you can judge it the
Speaker 1: most different, and that's all on decision making. That's why
Speaker 1: I said, I feel like there's no way you can
Speaker 1: judge the difference on who's throwing what. You just gotta
Speaker 1: see it, you know, and then beat the judgment. You're
Speaker 1: not going to rank them, and just Ry Baker marks
Speaker 1: guy over. You almost got me where you having played
Speaker 1: with Jalen. Did it not surprise you the way his
Speaker 1: game took a big step this year? Not at all, um,
Speaker 1: just because I feel like the whole his whole story
Speaker 1: all started when he got Bitch Bauta, and then the
Speaker 1: following year he had ended up in Oklahoma. So just
Speaker 1: that whole process I got him like when nineteen I
Speaker 1: didn't know who we're going to get right, um my
Speaker 1: junior in college, I didn't know who who's going to
Speaker 1: be our starting quarterback. And then once I finally got
Speaker 1: the news that he was gonna be, it like maybe
Speaker 1: two or three days before I had hit him, hit
Speaker 1: him a text like, YO, let me know whatever you need,
Speaker 1: like we can get right and then you can come
Speaker 1: stay with me if need be. And then the first
Speaker 1: week of him being there, he even got there two
Speaker 1: days earlier, we met that culturality's house and then he
Speaker 1: ended up staying with me and then we ended up
Speaker 1: working out immediately after and it's at that moment I
Speaker 1: knew I could relate to him just how hard hard
Speaker 1: he worked and how much he wanted it, because he
Speaker 1: wanted it just as much as I did, you know,
Speaker 1: and we both, you know, together one of the same thing.
Speaker 1: In the end goal was to win the national championship.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we were short. But that proves a lot of
Speaker 1: him and I know what he's doing at in FIOD
Speaker 1: A little annoying. He ended up on the Eagles crattle. Um,
Speaker 1: you ever noticed how like the Cowboys, um, ex cowboys
Speaker 1: gotta dominate the broadcast booth. Like it's a little different
Speaker 1: playing with the cowboys. Like it's like you've got a
Speaker 1: Cowboys quarterback used to have a Cowboys tight end in
Speaker 1: the broadcast booth. Would you ever want to be that
Speaker 1: ex cowboy that? Then? Definitely to that to the list. Um,
Speaker 1: last question, Um, this is a controversial subject on our show.
Speaker 1: I I say that Mike McCarthy has a real Zaddi
Speaker 1: energy to him. Um, he's a he's a man that Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right. No, he's like
Speaker 1: Zaddy Like he's a guy that you can look up to,
Speaker 1: and he carries himself about that's a swagger. That's like
Speaker 1: the deodorant, a little bit understated. They don't agree with me.
Speaker 1: Do you see any Zaddie qualities with Mike McCarthy. I
Speaker 1: don't know what you mean, but it's zad Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know what where nobody's underdog. That's my hands right there. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, so you're gonna you're gonna hold a hard
Speaker 1: firm No comment on that, No comment, But I'm with
Speaker 1: my man's all the way, same same, we can agree
Speaker 1: on that, all right, Ceedee Lamb. That's the luck going forward. Man.
Speaker 1: Thanks there he goes, Ceedee Lamb. Another nice guy. I
Speaker 1: think it was kind of interesting. And he's been doing
Speaker 1: obviously the media rounds here at media row um and
Speaker 1: he is pounding the drum like get us more pieces
Speaker 1: on offense, which is not too like purposely like dump
Speaker 1: on a guy like Michael Gallop or even Zeke Elliott
Speaker 1: at the stage of his career. But you see that
Speaker 1: there is a frustration coming through there, like you can
Speaker 1: get on us or get on deck, but look at
Speaker 1: these other super teams that are just loaded all over
Speaker 1: the place and we're not quite that, which is fair.
Speaker 1: It's complex because in a way you're you're having to
Speaker 1: point an owner a finger at your owner who is
Speaker 1: also your general manager in one sense, and also you're
Speaker 1: like advertiser. But that's it's try. It's interesting be though,
Speaker 1: because I think Jerry Jones likes that, like CD Lamb
Speaker 1: is not overly outspoken, certainly compared to some wide receivers.
Speaker 1: He was really cool, like a great you get a
Speaker 1: better sense of like his vibe. But I think he
Speaker 1: knows he works in an organization that actually will hear
Speaker 1: what he's saying in the media, and Jerry Jones will
Speaker 1: be like, how about that CD, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: maybe he's onto something. Do you like, like he actually
Speaker 1: might listen to his wide receivers where I think so well,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah. Do you think he knows or
Speaker 1: has an idea of what a zaddi is? That was
Speaker 1: an interesting Yeah, yeah, I think he does. I think
Speaker 1: that maybe where he doesn't quite you know, with the
Speaker 1: tone of oar, I want this. I want this video
Speaker 1: to go out on social check out our you know,
Speaker 1: our Instagram page for for all the the visuals of
Speaker 1: what we've been doing. But his face screwed up, like
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Man? Was more like the
Speaker 1: way I took it is he had never even thought
Speaker 1: about that before, and he was wrapping his head around it.
Speaker 1: I just did it. En't dismissing it. No, I just
Speaker 1: didn't have the time to really kind of give him
Speaker 1: the full elevator pitch. But at this same time, I
Speaker 1: think I would have had him if I had an
Speaker 1: it wasn't a striking victory for your argument. I would
Speaker 1: say that, well, we've we've been, we've been making the
Speaker 1: case Mark, and I that there might be like a
Speaker 1: little bit of projection here, and then you know, we're
Speaker 1: closer to Mike McCarthy's age ultimately than we are to
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. So I think the Ceedee Lamb it might
Speaker 1: be certainly quite a big, quite a big leap to
Speaker 1: seeing his coach. That way, I think he's closer to
Speaker 1: being a grandfather the type two to Ceedee Lamb. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Greg is coming with a lot of logical grand daddy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: grand zaddy. That's pretty good too. Anyway. He also did
Speaker 1: say he loved that man, and I think I love
Speaker 1: him too. All right, let's keep rolling here from Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb to Jamaar Chase. Here he comes man, we got
Speaker 1: some of the best wide receivers in football on this episode.
Speaker 1: First Ceedee Lamb and now in the a f C
Speaker 1: the Great Jamaar Chase. Welcome to Around the NFL. Good sir, sir,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Well, I gotta tell you
Speaker 1: just gotta own this. Like, uh, you know this the
Speaker 1: effect because of Super Bowl Week, um, affect people differently. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I asked, you know, Jamorrow, how's this week? Ben?
Speaker 1: It's been very busy. Sod were you here at last
Speaker 1: year's Super Bowl? It's like, yes, I played in that
Speaker 1: game and you're sitting next to a bona fide idiot.
Speaker 1: So it was a big moment for our podcast. You know,
Speaker 1: we were all about the Bengals last year. Well, we'll
Speaker 1: get you to a doctor immediately after today's show. Um,
Speaker 1: what are you doing here with a carnival and Pepsi
Speaker 1: zero sugar? Yeah, so, Um, I'm here on a second year.
Speaker 1: They gave me an opportunity to give rookiees a free
Speaker 1: chance to win the cruise. Um, you gotta go to
Speaker 1: www dot Pepsi zero sugar dot com signed up there
Speaker 1: to win a free cruise. Well, speaking of sugar, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna sugarcoat it. I imagine part of this kind
Speaker 1: of sucks, right, Like you were so close to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and instead of you're sitting with these bozos,
Speaker 1: this man and they though you were in the game
Speaker 1: last year. Um, like how long did it take? Is it?
Speaker 1: Are you even there yet? For like the frustration of
Speaker 1: you know, getting the ball twice star in a tie game,
Speaker 1: just just not able to get over the hump and
Speaker 1: get back to the big game. Um, I'm still a
Speaker 1: little bit there. You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: in Arizona right now, and all I'm saying is chiefs
Speaker 1: in Philly right now. It's a little annoying what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So um, but for the most part, man, it was
Speaker 1: a fun opportunity, you know what I'm saying that had
Speaker 1: that chance. Um, wish we could have did more, Wish
Speaker 1: you could have had more calls. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's football. You gotta somebody's like, somebody's
Speaker 1: not going to be happy at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So sorry, do you think
Speaker 1: the officiating decided that game they had to play? I
Speaker 1: had to play? It wasn't great. I'm sure that a
Speaker 1: lot in the city too. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: were going around Cincinnati for a couple of days, but
Speaker 1: it had to be hot. I mean, it just it
Speaker 1: was a little aweso sometimes. You know, it didn't always
Speaker 1: go I mean they didn't always get their calls either,
Speaker 1: but you know, it happens as football. And I'm one
Speaker 1: of the best re shivers in league and I can't
Speaker 1: get a call for nothing. They keep you busy though,
Speaker 1: like the NFL. You know, whe all keeps turning. You
Speaker 1: went straight from that game to Vegas for the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl games, and I have some sound there's a mystery
Speaker 1: kind of on on social media right now of like, uh,
Speaker 1: what was said to you at the Pro Bowl games?
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna listen to and maybe you can
Speaker 1: uncover this mystery for us. I want to watch everything.
Speaker 1: So sub player says, you keep cooking us, but you
Speaker 1: couldn't tell which player it was, and we're sick of it.
Speaker 1: That he what was that player? I want to know
Speaker 1: who that was? Um cooking us? That was the kicker
Speaker 1: Tucker Okay from the greatest kicker of all times. That
Speaker 1: makes sense because you have smoked the Ravens quite a
Speaker 1: few times. You personally there was I mean, you had
Speaker 1: a legendary rookie year. You absolutely abused Baltimore as a Brookie.
Speaker 1: That was fun to watch it. A Browns fan like Mark,
Speaker 1: that must have been nice to see Jamar damaging the
Speaker 1: Ravens that we also just to see, you know, for
Speaker 1: so long, like Ohio football, Browns and Bengals struggle, and
Speaker 1: I really feel like you and Burrow obviously showed up
Speaker 1: and it's like you didn't care about the past and
Speaker 1: you just said torch whatever that people think about the
Speaker 1: Bengals for years and years. But part of that, for me,
Speaker 1: I feel is Zach Taylor, who last year was like
Speaker 1: sort of an anonymous one of the more anonymous unknown coaches,
Speaker 1: tugs you all the way to the promised Land. What
Speaker 1: is what is it about Zach Taylor that we don't
Speaker 1: know that we don't understand because it seemed like his
Speaker 1: leadership popped up big time down the stretch this year too.
Speaker 1: Uh Man, I love Zach. I can honestly say that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He's he's a caring person
Speaker 1: and he cares about his football team, um and just
Speaker 1: not just a football team, individuals period. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, especially if a person is and need needs help, Um,
Speaker 1: it's going through something. Zach always has his door open
Speaker 1: and and and and wants us to come talk to him.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate Zack for doing that, and you know,
Speaker 1: uplifting everybody else who's you know, always dug ourselves in
Speaker 1: a hole. Mh. I noticed like Deftin came at you
Speaker 1: guys different, like what what what did you notice this
Speaker 1: year for how they're regarding you specifically and what did
Speaker 1: you try to do? Yeah, a lot of teams would
Speaker 1: play cover two to my side, or they would play
Speaker 1: sixth period, um two and four on each side, and
Speaker 1: then they would probably do a little too man, probably
Speaker 1: do a little too tampa. Um. They they'd also just
Speaker 1: double meat double double or triple double. That means all
Speaker 1: three of the receivers are getting doubled. Um. They would
Speaker 1: really do a lot of different things. Man. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: would just look at our splits and play us differently
Speaker 1: from techniques. So UM, I can honestly say, it's been
Speaker 1: a lot of coverage that I've never seen before in
Speaker 1: this lead and the past the last three weeks. I
Speaker 1: want to say that. That's why I've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of different coverages. They're sick of you getting those go
Speaker 1: balls over their head, Like, so what did you do
Speaker 1: about it? We started doing a lot of stuff underneath.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Um, Tee Higgins has been
Speaker 1: doing this thing this this this year. Man. Honestly, he's
Speaker 1: been a big help to me, not just me, but
Speaker 1: to Joe Burrow itself. You know what I'm saying. And Um,
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep going. And I can't wait till we
Speaker 1: get Tyler Boyd and this thing too. This is speculations
Speaker 1: season now, of course, and people look at you know,
Speaker 1: Jamar is gonna need to get paid on his second contract.
Speaker 1: Down the line, Burrow of courses in line for a
Speaker 1: massive extension. Maybe the biggest contract in the league is
Speaker 1: Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow is gonna
Speaker 1: be able to stay together. I mean, I would imagine
Speaker 1: the move is to stay together as long as possible.
Speaker 1: We don't need to break this up right now. I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean yeah, I've always I'm be on
Speaker 1: t every day. He knows that I don't know what
Speaker 1: he's gonna do. Um, hopefully he stays in Cincinnati. I
Speaker 1: don't know what Joe is gonna do. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you know everything's gonna work. But I'm always in
Speaker 1: tease ear making sure he's trying to stay with me. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, Joe, Joe
Speaker 1: is gonna do. I think Joe's gonna do the right thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Joe is not a cocky dude.
Speaker 1: When he comes to money. He doesn't really care too much.
Speaker 1: And you know he that's that's what makes him himself.
Speaker 1: He's saying like he's getting good value out of those
Speaker 1: clothes because they look expensive. Um, we got that much money,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. That's true. You and I know you
Speaker 1: and Burrow they talk about how you guys are great friends. Mean,
Speaker 1: what is a like in the off season, say you
Speaker 1: go over to Joe Burrow's house or he goes just like,
Speaker 1: what do you get? What? Sometimes are you? Are you
Speaker 1: great friends? If so, what does a night look like
Speaker 1: when you guys get together? Actually I had to force
Speaker 1: Joe to go to Vegas with me. Um. He's such
Speaker 1: an inside cat that he doesn't want to go outside
Speaker 1: at all. And Um, I hate that he's like that,
Speaker 1: because you know, he's such a great person and such
Speaker 1: a great quarterback that he doesn't really get a chance
Speaker 1: to live his life. And that's the hard part about
Speaker 1: a person that has that much status around theirselfs And
Speaker 1: I told him, just go to the go to the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, man, enjoy it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You probably won't play because of who you are. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you can pull stripes, man, you
Speaker 1: don't have to play. Just enjoy the moment. Man. You
Speaker 1: don't really get this too many times, so you know,
Speaker 1: I just wanted him to enjoy the moment and live
Speaker 1: it up. Did he go with you? I didn't know
Speaker 1: that he wasn't part of the pro but he was
Speaker 1: out there. Okay, exactly. It's good friend work. It is
Speaker 1: good friend work. Like you didn't do the game. But
Speaker 1: what goes out, Joe, I don't want to go over
Speaker 1: your house and watch Titanic again. Let's go out UFC
Speaker 1: the whole time. Not that same all right, same thing,
Speaker 1: um well, not the same thing. Just cycling back for
Speaker 1: a second. You mentioned the officiating, and I know, like
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell had his annual Super Bowl press conference today
Speaker 1: that was the subject. Officiating in general was the subject
Speaker 1: for many fence throughout the season as somebody that boots
Speaker 1: on the ground plays the game. Like, what do you
Speaker 1: see as something officiating can do in terms of improving
Speaker 1: or do you think it was more that game itself
Speaker 1: or was it the whole season that you had issues with? Um,
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the game in Um. I don't
Speaker 1: really pay attention to too much officiating stuff going on
Speaker 1: because it's so much more I gotta do and think about.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, you know, it's it's not
Speaker 1: always gonna go all the way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I feel like it's that way because of who
Speaker 1: we are. We're the Bengals, and nobody's expecting us to win,
Speaker 1: and when you see us winning, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: shot for people. UM So, I mean, I'm hoping the
Speaker 1: rest not against them, but sometimes it could be a
Speaker 1: play apparts sometimes when you won the a f C
Speaker 1: Championship last year. Um, there's a famous NFL Films clip
Speaker 1: of you, uh, we're gonna play it? Have you have
Speaker 1: you listened to it? Here? A damn yere one. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm glad I'll stop crying before all of interviews.
Speaker 1: I want to cry again so bad. I got it out.
Speaker 1: I got it out. Mark our first year at the
Speaker 1: NFL media they didn't let us park in the parking
Speaker 1: lot and we got Jamar got the super Bowl. That
Speaker 1: the town very different first years at the NFL. I
Speaker 1: know that clip is actually like forty seconds in the
Speaker 1: first twenty are just you kind of crying um audibly.
Speaker 1: It's it's very tough atually, Like how much it means
Speaker 1: to you as a man who wants to really promote
Speaker 1: other men crying? Like I want that to be okay?
Speaker 1: How do you feel like it all the time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, being kind of a spokesman for the male
Speaker 1: crying community. Yeah, okay, you just put me on the spot. Basically,
Speaker 1: what was that? I mean that moment like because it
Speaker 1: was cool? I mean for the most part, man, it's
Speaker 1: a it's an emotional moment if you love the game,
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, and especially if you put yourself
Speaker 1: through so much to get that way and that far. Um,
Speaker 1: you gotta live in a moment and enjoy, accept it,
Speaker 1: take it all in. And I did that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. At the moment of time. I was
Speaker 1: just having chills that I really couldn't believe that I
Speaker 1: did that, you know what I'm saying, and had the
Speaker 1: unremarkable year that I had because that wasn't played. Um,
Speaker 1: I just was trying to be myself and play football,
Speaker 1: and you know, I got back re nined with Joe
Speaker 1: and we took off. Do you feel like younger players,
Speaker 1: like we talked before about the transformation the Bengals, like
Speaker 1: that moment was I mean that city had not experienced
Speaker 1: anything like that in decades. Well was that kind of
Speaker 1: something you understood or or are you still learning what
Speaker 1: Cincinnati what it all means to Cincinnati? Honestly, I feel
Speaker 1: like I understand because when I first got there, man,
Speaker 1: I would taller board and Joe Mix was in my
Speaker 1: air every day about how horrible they was. Like, I
Speaker 1: mean every day I would hear so many different stories
Speaker 1: about people fussing in the locker room. The locker room
Speaker 1: is not this, it's a cancer, this that, And I
Speaker 1: was just like Dane, I can't believe it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know he was, you know, he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we got that no more. At the
Speaker 1: first he would always say we don't have that no more.
Speaker 1: We got Jamaar Chase. I'm like, you got Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: You have It's crazy to think now, but there was
Speaker 1: so much speculation and talk, including on our podcast, about
Speaker 1: do not go near a wide receiver in that first
Speaker 1: round after Joe Burrow blow out his knees, like you
Speaker 1: gotta get an offensive lineman. But the right move was
Speaker 1: bringing Jamaar Chase into that building. And we hope you
Speaker 1: have many more great years in Cincinnati with Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: because you guys are a lot of fun to watch
Speaker 1: and so thank you, appreciate it, thank you. All right,
Speaker 1: there is Jamar Chase. Thank you buddy. Problem you know guys,
Speaker 1: and it was great Jamaar Chase. Um, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a weird interview. I kind of set it off the
Speaker 1: top and the conversation, but to get that close, to
Speaker 1: have the chiefs beat basically it felt like and then
Speaker 1: not to do it, and now you're doing the rounds
Speaker 1: with talking to bozos like us. Uh. You know, I
Speaker 1: give credit to Jamar for you know, keeping it real.
Speaker 1: The headheld high. I mean, I thought I'd tried to
Speaker 1: help him out by suggesting that I had no remembrance
Speaker 1: of him being in last year's game. To take that
Speaker 1: what happened there? You know what, I literally just disassociated
Speaker 1: for my entire body because like the player comes up,
Speaker 1: you're trying to make him feel comfortable. It's like, what
Speaker 1: did he say? He wu looked at me like you
Speaker 1: are of were you literally brought to America like four
Speaker 1: minutes ago? Now what do you think? He said? I
Speaker 1: was in the game? He said, well I was? I said, no,
Speaker 1: did you have you done this before? Like the radio everything,
Speaker 1: He's like, I was in the game last round. Just
Speaker 1: like there's literally the stupidest thing I've ever said as
Speaker 1: an adult. It's very much like you're at a bar
Speaker 1: and a girl is right there and you're just like
Speaker 1: you come here often and you got you get in trouble.
Speaker 1: I would mess you know. We had we I think
Speaker 1: I mentioned it. We had dinner last night and we're
Speaker 1: talking about it with Grave Diggers with us and we
Speaker 1: had Kevin Clark and the Ringer and we're talking about
Speaker 1: one of the underrated moves you can do in life.
Speaker 1: It's like when you really biff something real bad that
Speaker 1: you just not just own it. You just like let
Speaker 1: the waterfall fail. Come over, you're just like guys, I
Speaker 1: got this one wrong. I blew this one. I tried
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, they tried to do it before
Speaker 1: Greg did it to me. So that was part of
Speaker 1: my other strategy when out too long, when you mess
Speaker 1: up so bad, you have to do the I got
Speaker 1: that one wrong, really sorry, Like I think that he's
Speaker 1: I'm lesser in his mind than the two of you.
Speaker 1: I really like reading too much that they call ever
Speaker 1: think of anything at all. I might be reading to you,
Speaker 1: But I do feel, like, man, that there's a good chance.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a future Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: player who's already achieved at such a high level in
Speaker 1: his first two years in the league that like, yes,
Speaker 1: he's just appointed he's not in that game, but he's
Speaker 1: fully expecting to be in those big games a lot.
Speaker 1: How could they not be, especially Ann and Chase, his quarterback,
Speaker 1: who's basically said, my window will never cease to be open,
Speaker 1: and not not to mention like if Jamal Williams puts
Speaker 1: together a few more seventeen TV seasons, hey we might
Speaker 1: have had three Hall of Famers on this show. Look
Speaker 1: at us, yes, look at us is there a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame for podcasting? I think we'll be too young
Speaker 1: a field, um, but certainly nominate us if you can,
Speaker 1: if you could, have we gotten justin, have we gotten
Speaker 1: any um feedback from the fans on the Hollywood Star
Speaker 1: anybody putting together any grassroots and he's just shaking his head.
Speaker 1: I saw some people that were sort of turned off
Speaker 1: by the entire concept that we would pitch that for ourselves,
Speaker 1: and I immediately blocked them. We do have to well,
Speaker 1: they're certainly not. We're talking about our higher stage and everything.
Speaker 1: We we are at risk of losing touch with the
Speaker 1: common Wrestler opens the show, We're talking about the size
Speaker 1: of his enormous suite. It's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to What I'm trying to do is be
Speaker 1: you know, real and absolutely, you know, clear faced on
Speaker 1: where we are with things. You know, it is cute though, like, yes,
Speaker 1: the room is bigger, but it is cute that you
Speaker 1: took a photo of the room and said to do
Speaker 1: It's like, holy, So I don't expect it. I thought
Speaker 1: it was going to be just a you know, regular
Speaker 1: little tiny room. I thought it was a mistake because
Speaker 1: I ordered dinner and the guy came in and he's like,
Speaker 1: this room is huge. I'm like, I know, He's like,
Speaker 1: who are you? But I'm like, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what I'm doing here? How much were you hoping for Dan?
Speaker 1: And I to respond? Our rooms aren't that bit? What's why?
Speaker 1: I think I sent it for a reason, and then
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to know what was going on.
Speaker 1: Let's be real, um, roads are way better than arcs,
Speaker 1: which is haven't told? Now that? Here comes to Arthur Blank,
Speaker 1: owner of the Falcon as well. It's popping here. I
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but Phoenix has had
Speaker 1: I feel like, bigger names and everything's a little more
Speaker 1: juicy for that. We might be a couple of years
Speaker 1: post pandemic and super Bowl starting to get its Let's
Speaker 1: vive back a little bit. I think that's right, all right? Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's it enough? Why are we still here? We got
Speaker 1: more big time shows coming up. Our super Bowl preview
Speaker 1: with Chris mad Dog Russo on Thursday, another big time
Speaker 1: show with special guest Friday, and then of course the
Speaker 1: super Bowl recap Sunday night. He's the call