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Speaker 1: a wild card. What a dominant performance by the Texans defense.

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Speaker 1: We will dive into that game. Something I saw from

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Speaker 1: So getting us ready for you know, the weekend before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna lie. I mean, when you factor in two

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Speaker 1: into this game. Obviously, the Texans win twenty three to nineteen.

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Speaker 1: It I don't know if I've ever seen anything quite

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Speaker 1: seven or eight times, that's the equivalent of like fifteen

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Speaker 1: for another team. That was as big of an ass

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Speaker 1: kicking from a front four to an offensive line as

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Speaker 1: you will see all season long, especially when you're factoring.

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Speaker 1: We're not that far removed just a couple months that

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills were the betting favorite to win the

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Speaker 1: a division in which they have dominated for years. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl feels like a mile away from this team.

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Speaker 1: The division feels all but over, and it's not even

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving because it's not just like, well, John, we still

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Speaker 1: got Josh Allen. Yeah, you had Josh Allen against Texans.

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Speaker 1: You kind of got worked and like it's not his fault.

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Speaker 1: You have a superhuman player. Obviously, tonight I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: this Bills team is extremely flawed, and tonight clearly wasn't

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Speaker 1: good for them. On the injury front, Lots lost, multiple defenders,

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Speaker 1: But the fascinating part of this game was it was

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Speaker 1: And that's the Bills problem. They're not a well rounded team.

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Speaker 1: isn't good enough. You don't need to be the Texans

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Speaker 1: To me, something doesn't that up Like this is more

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Speaker 1: Lad mccaukey's probably a better player than Shakir, but like

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Speaker 1: took Braydon Fisk. You know, you could use a big

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Speaker 1: was sweet. That was if you like football, old school football.

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Speaker 1: That was fun. We don't get a lot of that anymore.

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Speaker 1: That feels like a throwback to like the two thousands

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Speaker 1: a couple guys in the NFL, I gotta give some

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Speaker 1: credit to for being zoned in. And I saw sometimes

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Speaker 1: on Instagram you see quotes that are just clearly fake, right,

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Speaker 1: No, no, And then you realize it's a completely made

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Speaker 1: It's fun. That's social media. And there were some quotes

475
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Speaker 1: and just stories going on. I would say Instagram over

476
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: the last I would say twenty four forty eight hours

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Speaker 1: on Ceede Lamb and George Pickens and what they did

478
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, how basically they had gone out, they

479
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: had gambled, they had gotten drunk. And I just kept

480
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: reading this and thinking, well, I saw them play. They dominated.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is not baseball or basketball. If you are

482
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and you're playing the Raiders on Monday night football,

483
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: you probably touched down in Vegas about four or five.

484
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: You don't eat individually. Typically you're at a hotel, not

485
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Speaker 1: on the strip. You have a ballroom with meeting rooms,

486
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: and the ballroom is essentially like your cafeteria, and you

487
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Speaker 1: have a team meal. It's not like the O Linemen

488
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Speaker 1: the D Lineman they're going out in Vegas eating at

489
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Speaker 1: steakhouses for dinner. You eat at the hotel probably from

490
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Speaker 1: six thirty to seven thirty. Cafeteria is open. You can

491
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Speaker 1: come down to your room and eat whenever you want.

492
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Speaker 1: And there was just an unlimited amount of food in

493
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Speaker 1: the team. The coaches, the trainers, they all eat. You

494
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: don't go out and eat. So when I saw it's

495
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Speaker 1: like they went out to eat, and then they clearly

496
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Speaker 1: verified the story of yeah, we were out, we went

497
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Speaker 1: to dinner aka after because usually you eat and then

498
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Speaker 1: you'll probably have a team meeting, and then maybe you'll

499
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Speaker 1: break into individual or unit meetings like offensive defense or

500
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver meetings, and then you head to bed and

501
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: football players after the meeting, you'll get a thing called

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Speaker 1: snack that clearly they bypassed and just went to the

503
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Speaker 1: Red Rock Casino and they had a second dinner, and

504
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: we're having cocktails and clearly having a good time, which

505
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Speaker 1: kind of reminds me, this is again the night before

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Speaker 1: a game. This is type stuff that used to have

507
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Speaker 1: a lot. It doesn't happen as much anymore. We live

508
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: in a generation of guys that like drink green juices,

509
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Speaker 1: that brag about going to bed early. The athletes I

510
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: grew up on, Michael Jordan would drink like a twelve

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Speaker 1: pack at lunch three hours before a game. That's why

512
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot of us kind of rever the guy. It's

513
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: like legendary shit. Nowadays, it's like what can we put

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Speaker 1: in the smoothie? Can I get a Can I get

515
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Speaker 1: an immunity blast? And listen, I'm not faulting anybody. I

516
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Speaker 1: try to stay focused on my health as well. But

517
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: there's something special about Kenny Stabler going you know what,

518
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: I studied the playbook by the light of the jukebox

519
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: for those of you kids, that's something that used to

520
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: play music in the seventies at the bar the night

521
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Speaker 1: before the game. And Al Davis's teams and most teams

522
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties were notorious for just drinking, boozing,

523
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: smoking all the time and playing ball. Those days are

524
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: clearly over way more money online. You don't have as

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Speaker 1: much going on, and that generation of player the seventies,

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Speaker 1: the eighties, the nineties, hell even the two thousands, if

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Speaker 1: you would have had a team in Vegas, there would

528
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Speaker 1: have been a lot of shenanigans going on. I've thought

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Speaker 1: ever since the team moved to Vegas. In this modern

530
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: day time, especially in the NFL, you're only there for

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours. No one's gonna stay on the strip.

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Speaker 1: Nothing even crazy is gonna happen. All these guys just

533
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Speaker 1: go to bed, play the game the next day. Not

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Speaker 1: George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb. Here's the problem though, if

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Speaker 1: you're a Raider fan. They literally are admitting that they

536
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: got caught staying out late boozing the night before a game.

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Speaker 1: They combined for fourteen catches, two hundred yards and two touchdowns.

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00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: The Raiders wide receivers and tight ends combined for two

539
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight yards. They outgained two guys who

540
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Speaker 1: were hungover, didn't even take you seriously enough as an

541
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Speaker 1: opponent to just go to bed at a decent time.

542
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Speaker 1: You outgained them by thirty eight yards as an entire

543
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: team and did score one less touchdown than them. So

544
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Speaker 1: you talk about two guys who just said, we're living,

545
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna go booze hell, we might play a little craps,

546
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: maybe a little blackjack. We're gonna have a good time

547
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: in Vegas. We don't give a shit. And you know

548
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Speaker 1: what I can what I like about Jerry Jones? Where's

549
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Jerry from seventies, eighties and nineties. What's he known for?

550
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: A team that literally had something called the White House

551
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: where they did crack and hookers all the time? Was

552
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: very normal. Again, crack that cocaine, That's what they were

553
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: doing in the nineties, Jared. You know why Jerry didn't care.

554
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Speaker 1: The guy to lead the charge was Hall of Fame

555
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: wide receiver teams that I grew up watching it all

556
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: the time. It was well known, everyone talked about it.

557
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: It was funny kinda not really when he was going

558
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: through the trial, but other than that, like huge part

559
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: of the documentary. So I just appreciate that we just

560
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: have a couple throwbacks in a day and age where

561
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Speaker 1: everyone's talking about health and wellness and going to bed

562
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Speaker 1: on time. I don't mind an athlete every once in

563
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: a while a couple hours sleep, going for two bills

564
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: and two tough and just going. You can't stop me.

565
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit whether I had seven cocktails

566
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: or seven Gatorays, it doesn't matter. And for George Pickens

567
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: and Ceedee Lamb, you gain my respect. Props to you guys.

568
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: What else is going on? One thing I just want

569
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Speaker 1: to hit on is there was an article that came

570
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Speaker 1: out on ESPN dot com today about JJ McCarthy and

571
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: it's about a lot of different things, but he's talked

572
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Speaker 1: about this, Yeah, I saw who he was discussed this

573
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Speaker 1: at his press conference today. Is they're trying to rewire

574
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Speaker 1: his brain because they're rewiring his mechanics and they're trying

575
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Speaker 1: to change his muscle memory, which is obviously very very

576
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Speaker 1: difficult to do in professional sports. And a couple of

577
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: years ago and I said this, why I didn't believe

578
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Speaker 1: in this situation, because anytime you get a raw player

579
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Speaker 1: and you try to mold them while they are playing

580
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: on a team with expectations to be really good, it's

581
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: going to be a disaster. I saw it with Trey

582
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Speaker 1: Lance and Kyle Shanahan. He was hoping that he would

583
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: be a plug and play player. He clearly wasn't. He

584
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: was gonna need a lot of work, and even if

585
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: he got a lot of work, there was no guarantee

586
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: he was going to be good. And they pivoted immediately.

587
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: They realized that he just didn't have the time and

588
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: they didn't have, you know, a long runway to figure

589
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: this thing out if it failed, because they were ready

590
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: to win and ready to win immediately. And obviously they

591
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: got bailed out because they drafted Rock Purty in the

592
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Speaker 1: seventh round, who became a really good player just through

593
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Speaker 1: three touchdowns coming back from the turf toe. Aaron Rodgers famously,

594
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Speaker 1: coming out of col had some weird mechanics, held the

595
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 1: ball really high, had kind of a funky release, and

596
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: for three years behind the scenes, he just worked at practice,

597
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: changed his muscle memory, changed his mechanics, and then by

598
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Speaker 1: the fourth year, when Ted Thompson, Ship Brett Farv. He

599
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: was able to have changed his mechanics, rewire his brain

600
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Speaker 1: and start for the Packers. And his first year starting

601
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: pretty sure, they went six and ten, so he got

602
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: to play for a team the expectations, lost some games,

603
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: they weren't that good, and then within a couple of

604
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Speaker 1: years he's winning MVPs and they win a Super Bowl

605
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: and the rest is history. But JJ McCarthy is not

606
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Speaker 1: going to be given that much time and clearly trying

607
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Speaker 1: to rewire. Anyone who's ever played golf and you've tried

608
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: to make a swing change, it's one thing to do

609
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: with on the practice range, right, hit some range ball.

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I figure something out. And then you

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Speaker 1: go to the first hole and you're playing some guy

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Speaker 1: for twenty fifty bucks, and all of a sudden you

613
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: pump one into the house. Why because you resort to

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00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: muscle memory that you know, not what you've been working on.

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00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: Because it takes a while to force that into the

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Speaker 1: new kind of rotation of what you're doing, and who

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Speaker 1: knows if it can even stick. So JJ McCarthy, they're

618
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: trying to change his mechanics on the fly. But me Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: he's failing every Sunday. So from a confidence standpoint, it's

620
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: impossible to build any positive momentum. So this thing with

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, to me, it's not apples to apples. But

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Speaker 1: this thing is Trey Lance two point zero. Clearly they

623
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Speaker 1: like him. The forty nine ers like Trey Lance a lot.

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Speaker 1: Is a guy. They wanted it to work, and the

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00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: forty nine ers gave up way more for Trey Lance

626
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: than they did for JJ McCarthy. But there is no

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Speaker 1: way when you have elite players at different positions and

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Speaker 1: a ready to make team in terms of guys under

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Speaker 1: contract impact players, that you can do this and have

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Speaker 1: it be successful. It will not work. So I would

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Speaker 1: expect this weekend against the Packers in Lambeau. This was

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00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: a situation that obviously they talked themselves into. But you

633
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: can't convince me Thanksgiving year two that they already know

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00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: that this is this thing's over before it even started.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I don't really have a Fugazi

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Speaker 1: here on Fugazi Friday, but I was thinking this. We

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Speaker 1: didn't have more money in my bank account, my apartment

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Speaker 1: But how you doing, bro.

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Speaker 2: Good going through the grind? College basketball? Now back in

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Speaker 2: the heart to college football and NFL. I can't believe

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Speaker 2: it's Week thirteen of college football, Week twelve of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: It always goes by so fast. But yeah, no sleep,

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Speaker 2: just grinding. But I always tell myself it's a labor

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Speaker 2: of love. I always say that I do love going

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Speaker 2: through the grind. But whenever I get tired, I'm like

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Speaker 2: just thinking in June, when you're dying for football, have

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Speaker 2: some gratitude. So yeah, just continuing on, trying to find winners.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: I got my fix in I was watching I needed

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Speaker 1: a little sports hit on a Wednesday. Wednesday night, I

720
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Speaker 1: was watching Arizona Yukon. Dan was in rare form. I

721
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Speaker 1: mean he was on tilt. They lost. But you know,

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Speaker 1: college The good thing about Nil, I feel like it's

723
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Speaker 1: revamped college basketball, like college football has been rolling now

724
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Speaker 1: for a while. It just feels like and I think

725
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Speaker 1: Alabama Illinois came on right after. These games just feel big.

726
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Speaker 1: I mean, these universities. I mean it's become pro sports light.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I like I think these early season games

728
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Speaker 2: when they're on campus in particular, it's it's just such

729
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: a better feel for college basketball. But yeah, Arizona picked

730
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Speaker 2: up a huge win. They've been super impressive. They've won like,

731
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Speaker 2: they've won in a multitude of ways against really good

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Speaker 2: teams so far this year. Like they've wanted to shootout,

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Speaker 2: they want to grinder versus u c LA, and they've

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Speaker 2: been really impressive. Bradley's been really good closing out games.

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Speaker 2: They have the stud freshman Pete, so it's they look

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Speaker 2: they look really good. And it's kind of like college

737
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Speaker 2: football that I don't think that there's gonna be one

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Speaker 2: dominant team and there's like amongst the top of the

739
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Speaker 2: of all of college basketball, there's gonna be like a

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Speaker 2: lot of parody where you're gonna have a lot of

741
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Speaker 2: teams and that makes the tournament more interesting. It's kind

742
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Speaker 2: of like that in college football, although maybe Ohio State

743
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: is that team again this year, but you now have

744
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Speaker 2: just like you're your second best team through your tenth, twelve,

745
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: there's not that much separation. Then it's gonna make for

746
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Speaker 2: a more interesting playoff. Although we don't need to expand anymore.

747
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Speaker 2: I'm seeing the Big ten now proposing like twenty four teams. Ooh,

748
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Speaker 2: we don't need to go to twenty four.

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Speaker 1: And play well, if it was twenty four, Texas would

750
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Speaker 1: be like in the Driver's seed as like the fourteen seed.

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Speaker 1: It's like they watched them play. They're not what are

752
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: we doing? Twelve twelve's off? It was fine, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's they need to tweak it to I guess they

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Speaker 1: don't want to get sued. But the non power five

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Speaker 1: team or power four team on a given year, like

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Speaker 1: Boise last year, round the table. I got no problem

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Speaker 1: over the course TCU back in the day the Utahs

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00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: before you know, those teams jumped up. They had individual seasons.

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Speaker 1: But if there's not an individual season that's worthy, you

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Speaker 1: don't just get a seat at the table. That's yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing with the NFL, Like that's

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Speaker 1: the one thing with college. You're in your way. But

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Speaker 1: it's still kind of subjective. Like in the NFL, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty black and white, right which to get the seventh

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Speaker 1: seed like you might have you're gonna have to certain

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Speaker 1: tie breakers or whatever. But there's no subjectivity to the

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00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: fourteen teams that make it in the NFL, which in

768
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Speaker 1: college clearly that there's a lot. I mean, hell, Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame in Miami is going to be a major story

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Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean maybe if you didn't like yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's tough to just completely worry about

773
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Speaker 2: lawsuits and excluding half of college football. But I think

774
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 2: eventually one day we're gonna have just like FBS FBS Light,

775
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: which is like Power four, and maybe there's like mega conferences.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how it's going to go, but

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Speaker 2: maybe you just have like the four top conference champions,

778
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Speaker 2: because there's there's an argument there's a chance that the

779
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Speaker 2: like if Duke ended up winning the ACC, they might

780
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Speaker 2: not have gotten in with four losses, Like you could

781
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Speaker 2: have had two group of five teams get in over

782
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Speaker 2: the ACC champ. So yeah, the ACC is really down

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Speaker 2: this year overall, Like we're most likely going to get

784
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Speaker 2: you or to Tech, who could have lost to Wake Forest,

785
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: they could have lost to Boston College. For Virginia Virginia

786
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: should have like four or five losses this year, Like

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Speaker 2: that's the most likely ACC Championship game, So their way

788
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Speaker 2: down the Big twelve is basically just Texas Tech. Utah

789
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Speaker 2: is playing really well with their path to get theirs

790
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Speaker 2: very difficult.

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Speaker 1: So Utah would be a worthy playoff team right now.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're going to get in.

793
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: But the.

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Speaker 2: EYU to lose the Sincy and they need, like Arizona

795
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Speaker 2: State to lose to Colorado, like Arizona State, BYU lose

796
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: the CINCI there two and a half point favorite on

797
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 2: the road, they very well could lose. Arizona State could

798
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Speaker 2: be the team that gets back to the Big tach Championship,

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Speaker 2: but they don't have their their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I do think their coach, I mean, over the

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Speaker 1: next ten days, I don't think it's inconceivable that Kenny

802
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Dillingham's like the coach at LSU.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested to see what he takes because he's

804
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: like all in on his university and but money always talks,

805
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Speaker 2: So it would be a big loss for the Sun

806
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: Devils because he's doing a great job there. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you're the other game, the biggest swing game of

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Speaker 2: the weekend is USC Oregon. Like the loser of that

809
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Speaker 2: is out. The winner of that is in really good

810
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Speaker 2: spot to make the college football playoff. And if I mean,

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Speaker 2: if say Oregon wins this week and then loses next

812
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Speaker 2: week at Washington, which is certainly possible. Washington some offensive

813
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Speaker 2: line injuries. Two of their best players Boston their Boston

814
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Speaker 2: NFL wide receiver and Coleman, a NFL future running back.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll both be back, but they have some

816
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: injuries worth watching. But say Oregon beats USC and then

817
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Speaker 2: loses to at Washington next week, I mean, the Big

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Speaker 2: ten only gets two in and then you have one

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Speaker 2: from the Big twelve, one from the ACC one group

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Speaker 2: of five. I mean you're talking maybe six seven SEC teams,

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Speaker 2: depending on what happens with some of them.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think it'd be I mean, let's I think

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Speaker 1: Oregon is gonna house USC. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: bad you know, this.

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Speaker 2: Is USC down the road just never. They just can't

826
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Speaker 2: travel for some reason.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, even last week they're twenty one to ten.

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Speaker 1: It's in the rain. If you would have turned that

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Speaker 1: off and you said, hey, you have to bet ten

830
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars right now? Who wins this game? You wouldn't

831
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Speaker 1: be able to find a soul alive that would have

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Speaker 1: put money on USC in that moment. It had it

833
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: paralleled the feeling of that Nebraska game. Obviously the difference

834
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Speaker 1: Sebresca's quarterback. I heard Iowa was just Iowa. But I

835
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Speaker 1: just think that I would be stunned. And I'm not

836
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Speaker 1: trying to overreact to the Minnesota game, but it does

837
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Speaker 1: feel like Oregon's kind of figuring themselves out. Their backup

838
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: tight end is a monster, some transfer portal guy. Obviously

839
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: they're starting tight ends and stuff. They just feel like

840
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: this thing has got blowout. Now their rival is Washington,

841
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: so you just never know in these games. I mean,

842
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: look at Michigan last year against Ohio State. I would

843
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: be a little stunned if they have a really good

844
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Speaker 1: performance this week if they lost to Washington, won't you.

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Speaker 2: It depends on how healthy Washington is. But when Washington's

846
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Speaker 2: fully healthy, like the the problem is what Washington this

847
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 2: year has rarely been fully healthy. And like, for example,

848
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: they have a a left tackle, Carver Willis, who's really good,

849
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Speaker 2: this freshman guard who they had to move to right tackle,

850
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: he's going to be their future left tackle. Mills, he's

851
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: really good. They're tackle that he had to replace Tazu Party.

852
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: He's pretty good. Their center, Hatchet's pretty good. But a

853
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: team like Washington, the biggest difference between them and in Oregon.

854
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: In Ohio State's Washington is no depth, so like they're

855
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: especially on the offensive line, like their backup left tackle

856
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: who's had a play I think three or four games.

857
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: It's just because Washington at offensive line injuries in that

858
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State game, and then their offense is just crumbled.

859
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: In Ohio State, it's the best deep in the country.

860
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: If Washington's fully healthy, they are and at home they

861
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 2: are a different animal. And I mean, look this Oregon team.

862
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: They did lose at home to Indiana. They could have

863
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 2: lost that Iowa. It's you know it wasn't They weren't

864
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: that impressive at home against Wisconsin. When they play a cupcake,

865
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: they're like the best team in the country. They can

866
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 2: put it on you and I'll athlete you, but I'm

867
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: still not all the way sold on more So We'll

868
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: say I can see Washington winning that game, but they

869
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: have to be healthy. They can't go into that game

870
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: with injuries because they just that's the biggest difference between

871
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 2: Washington and some of these other up and the upper

872
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: tier teams in the Big Ten. They obviously don't have

873
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: as much talent, but like you're talking, Williams is one

874
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: of the most talented quarterbacks in the country. They have

875
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: an NFL you know, a top five back in the country,

876
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: a top five receiver in the country, good play caller,

877
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: and their offensive line has talent if it's healthy. But

878
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: the depth beyond that is it's Washington has yet to

879
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: build out their depth. So I could see the thing

880
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: is USC and my Aida in particular has been bad

881
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: on the road. USC under Riley forever has not been

882
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: able to travel. Now it's worse when they have to

883
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: go multiple time zones. But when you mentioned that Nebraska game, yeah,

884
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: I mean, if Marld doesn't get hurt, they lose that game,

885
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: and they just they just haven't traveled well and they

886
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: can't defend the run. They're a little soft and finesse.

887
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: So I'm sure that's what Oregon's gonna lean on here,

888
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure that us he has any answers. Now,

889
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: could they pull off the upset? Sure, because they do

890
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: have arguably the best wide receiver duo outside of Ohio

891
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 2: State in the entire country in Lemon and Lane. Miami's

892
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: gonna have to Miaia is gonna have to be good though,

893
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 2: like I said, he struggled on the road, because they're

894
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: gonna have to go up points to win this game.

895
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: Because it's hard to see that. I'm keeping Oregon and

896
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: check and Oregon should be able to control the clock.

897
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: They're at home, So I think Oregon is much more

898
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 2: at risk of loes next week than.

899
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: This kelsaving some NFL games. Uh. The Chicago Bears and

900
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers are currently both in first place. Neither

901
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: of them is favored to win the division. I think,

902
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: as we sit here today, or are we on the

903
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: same page that Aaron Rodgers won't play this week or

904
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: do you expect to see him?

905
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: I think no, but you never know with Rogers, like

906
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't try to predict ever

907
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: what Rogers.

908
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: It's clearly not a catastrophic injury. It's one of those

909
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: that's just kind of like, uh, it's not it's not concrete.

910
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: No beside people inside Pittsburgh, and with Aaron it's not.

911
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: He didn't break his wrist, but it's not nothing. It's

912
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: one of those if it is just a little bone tweak,

913
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: is it something if he falls on does it get worse?

914
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Use your left hand obviously to brace for impact when

915
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: you're sliding, when you're getting tackled. So it's it's not

916
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: one of those. Well, it's no big deal. It's his

917
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: non throwing hand. It is kind of a big deal,

918
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: right if it is pain and it's one of those,

919
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: but also like is it gonna get better? Is it

920
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: one of those where he has to miss a month?

921
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: I do think if Mason Rudolph comes in. Obviously, the

922
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: Bears just on a down to down basis, aren't a

923
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: very good defense. But they I was looking the other

924
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: day because I was looking at something on Miles Garrett

925
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: and then right below it was like the interception leaders

926
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: and the Bears have three of the top like four

927
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: guys that account for thirteen interceptions. So it's like if

928
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: you play somehow, they just get a lot of picks. Now, granted,

929
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy was just throwing it right to the guys,

930
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: but I don't know, I mean, this is you tell

931
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: me Mason Rudolph's playing in this game, I think I'm

932
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: hammering the Bears.

933
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, at three, I wouldn't mind the Steelers. I mean,

934
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a huge drop off right now

935
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: between Rogers and Rudolph. I think the Steelers are a

936
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: good teasder option if you want to tease the model.

937
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the Bears have been very, very fortunate because

938
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: of the turnovers. I mean, if you remove turnovers and

939
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: look at three EPA, they're one of the worst defenses

940
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 2: in the league. I mean, they have a plus sixteen

941
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: turnover margin that leads the league. The next best is

942
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 2: plus ten. They have a league high fifteen interceptions. They've

943
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: fumbled it nine times, they've only lost two. Their opponents

944
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 2: have fumbled it ten times. They've recovered seven of them.

945
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 2: So the turnovers and takeaways are masking their defensive issues.

946
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: They can't cover heavy personnel, and that's what the Steelers

947
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: are multiple tight ends. The Bears are giving up with

948
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: six point two yards per play against twelve personnel. They

949
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 2: struggle to defend the run, they struggle to get pressure.

950
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: So I think the Steelers be able to move the ball.

951
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: Now on the other side, the Bears like, look, they're

952
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: these two teams are kind of mirrors, right, Like they

953
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: have good records in first place. The Steelers always benefit

954
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: from turnover the luck and they're, like you mentioned, neither

955
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: a favor to win the division. If there's gonna be

956
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: some turnover luck that's coming. And the Bears have benefited

957
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: from turn oftlock on offense too, like they haven't turned

958
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: it over. The Steelers are the team to exploit that,

959
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: and the Steelers generally don't turn the ball over. So

960
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: maybe this is the game where that happens. Because yeah,

961
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean you have to remember the Bears are five

962
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: to zero in one possession games. They all came in

963
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: the final minute against the Raiders, the Commanders, the Vikings,

964
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: the Bengals, and the Giants. We're not talking the cream

965
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: of the crap here. I mean, it's like, it's pretty

966
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: troubling that McCarthy was that bad last week. I mean,

967
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: in this guy, he has all kinds. I mean there

968
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: was wide open guys over. He has major mechanical issues

969
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: right now. He can't throw the left side of the field.

970
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: He's locking in his hip and it's all armed and

971
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: he can't get the ball there. I mean, he is

972
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: a fifty five percent on target throw rate to the

973
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: left side of the field. The next worst among all

974
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks is seventy percent.

975
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: When you say on target, you're not saying completion, you're

976
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: just saying in the vicinity of the target was.

977
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't a catchable ball for the receiver. And he's

978
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 2: at fifty five the next versus seventy percent, he's a major.

979
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: And then like he doesn't he lacks touch on these

980
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: shore passes, So he's got They had a lot of

981
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: work to do with him, but it's very troubling in

982
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: that he was that bad for basically the entire game.

983
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: The Bears got two interceptions, they also recovered a fumble

984
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: that they had within in their own tent, inside their

985
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: own tent, and the Vikings somehow had the lead with

986
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: a minute to go, and then the Bears need a

987
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: kickoff return the Bears.

988
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: If I was going to defend Caleb, the Bears drop

989
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: a lot of balls. Yes, they.

990
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: Klebs played pretty well. I mean he does bail from

991
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: the pocket too quickly at times, like you'll just see

992
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: him one to eighty and then make something happen.

993
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: And he breaks down a lot of sacks though, yeah,

994
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: he does.

995
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: He's he's very elusive. So but the thing that's made

996
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: the I mean the Bears, why are they in first place?

997
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: One because their defense has gotten lucky with turnovers and

998
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: they've gotten fortune and close games to Ben Johnson. And

999
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: three this is you know, kind of a derivative of

1000
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. Their run game has been cooking and they

1001
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: have been and they should be able to run on Pittsburgh. Now,

1002
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's defense have been disappointing that this year. They have

1003
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 2: over the past few weeks they have started to change

1004
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: some things schematically on a week to week basis, Like

1005
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: you saw them go from heavy man to heavy zone

1006
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: or two eye and more cover six like, so they're

1007
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: being a little bit more unpredictable, which I think is

1008
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: helping their cause because they have other issues elsewhere. But

1009
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: this will probably be a close game. It'll probably come

1010
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: down to turnovers. But there is something that the Bears

1011
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: do have late, like when they have the ball and

1012
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: you have Ben Jhonson and then Kayleb Williams can make

1013
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: things happen with legs, like you feel confident with them

1014
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: in a close game. But yeah, this is down the

1015
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: two and a half. Now I have nothing here, but

1016
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: at three, I would look at the Steelers two and

1017
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: a half. I probably would tease the Steelers up, but

1018
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: probably another close game. I mean that's all the Bears

1019
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 2: have played outside of that Dallas game, and they usually

1020
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 2: could have three or four more losses on the season.

1021
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: But huge game for both teams.

1022
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: I think early returns and you never know the coordinator,

1023
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: like we knew Mike Vrabel. Maybe this year is going

1024
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: better than anticipated a little bit, but like he's proven

1025
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: he's good head coach and he was good when he

1026
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: had good players. I think Ben Johnson has immediately like

1027
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: become the Midwest Kyle Shanahan, very serious, not a big

1028
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: bullshit guy, and just dreams about running the ball. I mean,

1029
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: I see a lot of similarities their personality and the

1030
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: way they view football. And I think as they get

1031
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: better players on defense and get healthier over the years,

1032
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: that style is conduced of assuming you stay healthy, of

1033
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: like creating toughness on defense, running the ball in practice.

1034
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: Look at the Ravens for years. I think the Steelers

1035
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 1: in theory, right, I think it helps create toughness in practice.

1036
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: So I've been blown away by Ben Johnson.

1037
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,479
Speaker 2: He's a start where like already to be in first

1038
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 2: place in that division right now.

1039
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: Push pressure on the floor. It's like, okay with this

1040
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: guy is no longer just the coordinator. He's the head

1041
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: coach now of the Bears. Yea, and let's talk about that.

1042
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: It's that game. Obviously he's under some heat and a

1043
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: Giant's game was for a minute, You're like, whoa is

1044
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: this he's gonna because again, it was cold, it was weird.

1045
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: You can kind of feel it like it's something weird

1046
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Then Jordan Love hit a couple of passes

1047
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: and everyone could take a deep breath. But also the

1048
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: Jamis experience. I do think this defense has to be

1049
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: just licking their lips playing this kid. I mean, I

1050
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: just it might be my favorite bet of the year,

1051
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna go into Lambeau after all this everything

1052
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: going on. I read this article today on ESPN dot com.

1053
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you had mentioned some of the metrics of

1054
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: how they're just like redoing his mechanics on the fly.

1055
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: It's like I fall golf really closely. When guys redo

1056
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: their swing one, they spend a lot of time on

1057
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: the range, and then when they go into tournaments they

1058
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: were like, listen, I'm not expecting to play well. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1059
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: it takes I mean from Tiger to random pros let alone,

1060
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: anyone in pro sports. You mechanically change someone. Look at

1061
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He got to do it and practice for

1062
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: three years before they ever threw him to the Wolves.

1063
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: It's impossible at the highest level of sports tennis, baseball, football,

1064
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: to change your mechanics in the middle of the season.

1065
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: No fucking way. And even McCarthy's like, you got to

1066
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: rewire your brain. So maybe big picture it can change.

1067
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: I would bet against Usually the guys you get mentally broken,

1068
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: and you can see the way guys are looking at him.

1069
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: If he's able to do it, he is a Alex

1070
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: Smith didn't redo his mechanics, but like mentally tough, he

1071
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: like with like withstood it all and then he got

1072
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: over the hump. But that's he's rare. Usually it just

1073
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: breaks people. So it's not apples to apples Alex Smith

1074
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: to McCarthy here, but Green Bay minor six and a

1075
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: half is my favorite bet on the board.

1076
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, think about it. In order to become

1077
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: a pro athlete in any sport, it takes. Whether it's

1078
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: a jump shot, whether it's throwing a football, you know,

1079
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 2: a pitcher throwing a baseball, swinging a tennis rack, the

1080
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: golf club. The amount of muscle memory and the amount

1081
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: of reps that one must go through in order to

1082
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: just get that down. It's something that I just don't

1083
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: have a grass golfer to get to that level and

1084
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: be like a starting pitcher in baseball or a starting

1085
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. And like you said, rewire your

1086
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: entire brain. There are so much muscle memory and uh,

1087
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: just repetition there and doing something one way to change

1088
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: it is going to take time and.

1089
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: If it's even possible, yeah, right.

1090
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: And right now it's it's just broken. Like last week

1091
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 2: was I was like, okay, it's only been a couple

1092
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: of starts. He's played some tough defenses, but that was

1093
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: the perfect game. Like there was. It was a defensive

1094
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: can't get pressure with a bunch of backup defensive backs indoors.

1095
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: And he's in a good situation, like he has a

1096
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: good offensive line, a good play caller, he has good receivers.

1097
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: And tight end backs and can catch. I mean yeah

1098
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: at all.

1099
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: It's like as ideal of a situation as you would

1100
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: want and he just couldn't hit wide open throws, whether

1101
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: it's like throwing it too hard on the short ones

1102
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: or just completely missing the deep ones. And I don't

1103
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: know how you correct that. So I'm out on McCarthy.

1104
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: That out route where the Bears like it looked like,

1105
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, one of their backups caught it. It might have

1106
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: been a wide receiver like well past Justin Jefferson who

1107
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: was running probably like an eight yard out route was

1108
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: like that was and the even even Tom, who was

1109
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: trying to be nice, right it's a Michigan guy, was like,

1110
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: I this is I don't know where he's missing. I

1111
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on here. What are you even

1112
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: going to say unless you're just going to completely shit

1113
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: on him?

1114
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was ugly. I mean I don't to.

1115
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: This day, why does the coach keep calling go routes

1116
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: and deeper breaking routes like I would never call those

1117
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: routes for him.

1118
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I'm curious to see what they try to

1119
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: do this week on the road in Lambeau against that defense.

1120
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: That's that's gonna be tough. Now the Packers offense, I

1121
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: don't like they where this they might really miss. They

1122
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 2: missed Craft in general big time, but they might miss

1123
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: him more this week against the Blitz. Like Craft against

1124
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: the Blitz has been so good, and usually your tight

1125
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: end is your safety valve, the guy you look for

1126
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: when you're getting blitz, and we know that Flores is

1127
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 2: gonna bring the blitz and the Packers offense in general

1128
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: just there's been so many injuries that wide receiver tight

1129
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: end and now you know Jacob's at running back. The

1130
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: offensive line has had injuries every week. So like if

1131
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: you look at metrics wise, Jordan Love is number one

1132
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: in the league in EPA for dropback. There's also a

1133
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: ton of drops Like you've never believe that, right, like

1134
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: just watching their offense, but he's number one EPA for dropback.

1135
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 2: But the offensive operation right now is wonky. There's something

1136
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: off and it's because of the injuries, no Craft and

1137
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: shuffling wide receivers in an out offensive lineman and out.

1138
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: As a result, the Packers are struggling to like put

1139
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: it all together on offense, and as a result, they

1140
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: can't really build margin on teams like for example, the Panther,

1141
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: Like they lost to the Panthers at home when Bryce

1142
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: Young threw for one hundred yards.

1143
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: They're the Spider Man meme with the Eagles. Yes, I

1144
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: mean they didn't field game.

1145
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: The Packers didn't punt against the Panthers. The Panthers threw

1146
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: for one hundred yards and won. The Giants they like,

1147
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: and you watch that game, like there was so many drops.

1148
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: They drop a lot of balls. So that would be

1149
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: my only fear.

1150
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: Eighty seven's got some I mean it's in his head.

1151
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: It feels like a little bit he has something that

1152
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: are like hitting him in stride. I thought he was

1153
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: a stud based on last year, and this year you

1154
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: watch him, you go, something's off.

1155
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had a couple of bad ones last week Dubbs,

1156
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean.

1157
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: Christian Watson's infused a little life, I feel like into

1158
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: their operation.

1159
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: Yes, he had a huge that touchdown catch was sick.

1160
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: And Rogers.

1161
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should get read back, which will help, I

1162
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: think for the Thanksgiving gaming against the Lions, and they're

1163
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: just still trying to figure out life after Craft, so

1164
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: that would be my only concern. But I certainly couldn't

1165
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 2: look at the vikings here. The other thing is that

1166
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: it is worth mentioning because you're letting six and a

1167
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: half are the Packers? Can they make an extra pointer?

1168
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 2: I get get if there's win a lot of win

1169
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: last week in that life, but their kicking has been

1170
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: a disaster. I mean, no matter who they have in

1171
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: there all year. So that's a leady's worth noting. But

1172
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: right now can't trust McCarthy, so it's Packers are nothing.

1173
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: Someone sent me the stat that over from eighteen to

1174
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: twenty two, Mahomes on twenty plus yard passes through like

1175
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: fifty two touchdowns and he almost averaged sixteen yards of

1176
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: pass and over the last several years it's down under

1177
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: ten and it's like five total touchdowns. And he clearly

1178
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: his deep ball accuracy the last couple of years, even

1179
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: when guys have been healthy, it's just been a little off.

1180
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: Now part of that is his rapport with Tyreek, who

1181
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: in his prime is I mean truly one of the

1182
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: great talents we've ever seen. So you remove like Tyreek,

1183
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, whoever Terrell Owens, there's a drop off, But

1184
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: like I do think there is some like Patrick's just

1185
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: not quite as dominant as he was during that stretch,

1186
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: and there are plays to be made. He still makes plays.

1187
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: I defend him, like even when his numbers aren't great,

1188
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: like you can watch it be like he plays, he's

1189
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: still making some plays. But in that Denver game, and

1190
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: just I would say on the totality of the last

1191
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: couple of years, they massed it last year and definitely

1192
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: two years ago when they won eleven games. Remember he

1193
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: had that stretch where he was throwing like a pick

1194
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: a game. It was like seven straight games and then

1195
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: it was all came to a head on that Christmas

1196
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: Day game. It was like, God, but what happened? Playoffs start, boom,

1197
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: the dust settles, They're in the super Bowl, so it's like,

1198
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: what do you even say? But like over the last

1199
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: several years, Lamar obviously this year is weird, but Josh

1200
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: and Lamar have been better players in the regular season.

1201
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: But he goes, well, fuck I got you in January

1202
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day that matters more.

1203
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: Josh and Lamar would gladly trade anything in the regular

1204
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: season for what he's had in the playoffs, right and

1205
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: especially in the AFC to get to the Super Bowl.

1206
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: But I do think this is a big because it's weird.

1207
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: Like the Chiefs for five and five, they don't feel

1208
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: like a normal five and five team. I still think

1209
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: they're pretty good, but something is missing. This is a

1210
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: big spot at home this I mean there's a lot

1211
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: of kitchen sink games. I think they through the kitchen

1212
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: sink last game. Denver's good. I mean, the defense is

1213
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: pretty elite. But I Daniel Jones going to go into

1214
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City with kind of their season on the line,

1215
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, if the jag win, like,

1216
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna find yourself so far back, you might be screwed. Yeah,

1217
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: it's I guess that's I like the Chiefs. I think

1218
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: they win by a touchdown to I.

1219
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, Lamar is nothing to show for he's been

1220
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean he could have three MVPs. Lamar ever past

1221
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: two seasons, has fifty seven touchdowns and seven interceptions. I

1222
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: had to last week. They were both off the receiver's hands,

1223
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: one off a helmet, one cortern Brayton hand. Three of

1224
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: his other interceptions, one Steelers guy ripped it out of

1225
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: the hands of the raid and another one went right

1226
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: off the chest. He basically has two interceptions and fifty

1227
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: seven touchdowns over the past two years, which is ridiculous.

1228
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh's game on Sunday too, was like Jesus,

1229
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: like what, Yeah, this guy's I mean, nothing.

1230
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: To show for it. So yeah, at the end of

1231
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 2: the day, that's all anyone's gonna remember is the ploffs.

1232
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, that offense hasn't been the same, especially with

1233
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: the deep passing. I look, there's there's a couple of

1234
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: things a player. I mean, the Colts are coming off

1235
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: of a bye. But Daniel Jones has kind of turned

1236
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: back in to his true self, his true pumpkinself. I mean,

1237
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: over the first eight weeks of the season, he had

1238
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: three interceptions, he was sacked nine times, and he only

1239
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: had two fumbles. So weeks one through eight, eight games,

1240
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: only three picks, only nine sacks, two fumbles. Last two

1241
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: games four picks, twelve sacks, six fumbles. So the pressure's

1242
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: getting to him. He's kind of panicking. You know, teams

1243
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: have film now on what this offense is doing. Now

1244
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: the wild card is what can Jonathan Taylor. He could

1245
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 2: carry them to a win, just like he did against Atlanta.

1246
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: Chiefs run defense a little vulnerable. It's not as vulnerable

1247
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: as Atlanta's run defense, especially without Diablo, but I'm sure

1248
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: they're going to try to lean on Taylor here but

1249
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: I would agree with you, especially at three, even at

1250
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: a juice three, I would look at the cheese spags

1251
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 2: throwing everything he has here at Daniel Jones will probably

1252
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: make some mistakes, sauce. Garner has changed the equation a

1253
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: bit right now. He has a vie to get assimilated

1254
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: with that defense. They were playing man more in overseas,

1255
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: even with Gardner lamb in a couple days prepare and

1256
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 2: that's how you want to play the Chiefs. You want

1257
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 2: to play more man, not zone. But Kansas City is

1258
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: still I mean Indianapolis is still missing Buckner. They don't

1259
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: get elite pressure, so I would imagine Mahomes a company

1260
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: will be able to move the ball. A crazy stat

1261
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety, this will be the fifth only the

1262
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: fifteenth time and week eleven or later that we've had

1263
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 2: a team that's five and five are worse, So week

1264
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: eleven or later, a team that's under five hundred or

1265
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: worse favored over a team with a winning percentage of

1266
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: at least eighty percent. It's only happened fourteen previous times.

1267
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 2: All fourteen teams won, and they went twelveh and two

1268
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: against the spread.

1269
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: The five and five teams all one, you're saying all one,

1270
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: and they went twelve toho and two against the spread

1271
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: only to push the other twelve covered.

1272
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: So at three, Yeah, I think I think the Chiefs

1273
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: are the move.

1274
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: If we did a deep dive on that, do you

1275
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: think there were some injuries involved in some of those

1276
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:11,480
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks?

1277
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then there's also like some times when you

1278
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: just have like this is this is the case with

1279
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: this game, Like the Colts have been really good, but

1280
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: they've you know, they've played a week schedule.

1281
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: No one views them like the Ravens or the Bills

1282
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: of Previs.

1283
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: And then you've had a Chiefs team is zero to

1284
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: five and one score games and they're still power rated,

1285
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: as one of the said some already is the best

1286
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: team in the NFL still. So every year you're gonna

1287
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: have a couple of teams that are like there's been

1288
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: a couple of Steelers teams. I think maybe the COVID year.

1289
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: The Steelers started like ten and one, and they were

1290
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: like they weren't even that it was like the end

1291
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: of Roethlisberger's career and they were just winning every game

1292
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 2: by like one on voodoo.

1293
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: So like Baker got him in the playoffs, right, got

1294
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: you have.

1295
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: A couple of teams every year that it's just their

1296
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: playing way above their their record, and the up a

1297
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 2: couple teams that are unlucky, and then when they meet

1298
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: sometimes that's when you'll get these teams that are favored.

1299
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: So just it doesn't mean that Chiefs are locked. They're

1300
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 2: just an interesting nugget. So at three, yeah, I would

1301
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 2: look at the Chiefs. I think that they'll fluster Jones

1302
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: and Mahomes will do enough at home. And this is

1303
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, it's a massive game. Like Chiefs lose

1304
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: this Chiefs right now, you can kiss the division goodbye.

1305
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 2: Like they're basically four and a half back because they're

1306
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: four back and they lost to the Broncos. Now they

1307
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: get the Broncos at home, so whatever you could. You

1308
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 2: could say that they're four back, but it's week twelve,

1309
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: so you can kiss the division goodbye. Wild card, I

1310
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: mean you're they're basically two back because two plus back

1311
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: because the Jags have beat them head to head, the

1312
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: Chargers beat them head to head. And now this, like

1313
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: the charter is still theoretically to win the division. You

1314
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 2: lose this and you don't have the head dead against

1315
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: the too and then you're five and six. I think

1316
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: this is make or B. Like I think if Kansas

1317
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 2: City wins this game, they'll probably find a way to

1318
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: sneak in. If they lose this game, I think they're

1319
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: they're out and they're not making the playoffs. Massive swing

1320
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: game for the whole season.

1321
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: You should go to we both should go to like

1322
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: Denver and just go to bars and tell people in

1323
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: our power rankings we got the chief number one still

1324
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:22,799
Speaker 1: in the league.

1325
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: People will lose their minds.

1326
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 1: I think my favorite, one of my favorite games on

1327
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: the board might be the Saints coming off of bye

1328
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: minus one and a half against the Falcons. I mean,

1329
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: you talk about a franchise, it's sad. You know, Seattle

1330
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: and Niner fans are looking. You're like, wait, the Rams

1331
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: have the eighth pick in the draft right now, and

1332
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: this could get uglier for Atlanta. London's turnt obviously Penix

1333
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: is out. Mean the corpse of Cousins. Who's the hot

1334
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna be? I've had a twenty seven point five million

1335
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: dollar backup, like truly, just like in the offseason, this

1336
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: guy's gonna be our backup. That record's gonna stand for

1337
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: a while, like the cap. We got a long way

1338
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: to go before we And I'm not talking like fourteen

1339
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: million dollars Daniel Jones. He ends up. I'm talking like

1340
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be our backup all off season

1341
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: the way they said it, Well, I don't think we

1342
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: see that for a long long time. And I think

1343
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: the Falcons man this thing. I don't even think it's

1344
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 1: got as ugly as it's gonna get. And I actually listen,

1345
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: I Tyler Schuck. I got a text from a buddy

1346
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: that works for the Saints. He's like, hey, did you

1347
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 1: see what he did? I was like, I'm not watching

1348
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: you guys, so I had I went back and watched him.

1349
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: I was like, God, this guy's slinging it. I can

1350
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: see this thing getting ugly for Atlanta.

1351
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but by the way, I'll give you one that's

1352
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:40,759
Speaker 2: gonna be worse that'll never be broken next year twenty

1353
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: twenty sixth season. Deshaun Watson's cap hit for the Browns

1354
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: is eighty two million dollars. That's ridiculous. He's like their

1355
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,520
Speaker 2: four string quarterback right now.

1356
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: Easy. When they signed that contract, they were like, well,

1357
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna be so good, we'll just renegotiate and get

1358
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: that thing to like kind of like the Dak Prescott

1359
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: type thing, but it's so ugly they'll probably end up

1360
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: cutting them and just accelerate. That number could actually get bigger.

1361
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, his base hour next year is forty six million,

1362
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: and then he has pro rated bonuses that all get

1363
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: paid out.

1364
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: So it's probably if he just our starting quarterback next year.

1365
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: As you said the plug, it maybe probably not.

1366
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: He might be washed I from what I saw in

1367
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: all these injuries, and man, it's it's crazy. But yeah,

1368
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 2: I love the Saints this week. This is number one

1369
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: this spot. As you mentioned, Saints coming off of a bye,

1370
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: which I think is more beneficial in their case because

1371
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: you have a new quarterback, right, a rookie quarterback gets

1372
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 2: to work with the offense, build timing. Uh. And then

1373
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: you have the Falcons who earn a dream crusher spot.

1374
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 2: They're coming off two games that essentially ended their season.

1375
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: Both losses came in overtime, one overseas, one at home,

1376
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: dropped a three and seven in the NFC. You're done,

1377
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: and their defense is on the field for a million

1378
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: plays in both games. You saw them wear down at

1379
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: the end of the Panther game. Well, now back to

1380
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: back of overtime games going on the road three and seven,

1381
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 2: do they show up more importantly? And so what are

1382
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: they gonna try to do? They're gonna I mean, that's

1383
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: the corpse, as you mentioned, the corpse of Cousins. Cousins

1384
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 2: is forty second out of forty four quarterbacks in EPA

1385
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: plus completion percentage over expectation. The only quarterbacks that are

1386
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: worse this year are McCarthy and Gabriel. There's he's only

1387
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 2: one of four that is negative in that stat The

1388
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: only other negative one is cam Ward and he got

1389
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: to play. We already saw the Falcons play with Cousins

1390
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: and no Drake London. It was against the Dolphins at

1391
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: home and they lost that thirty five seven or something.

1392
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 2: They got blown out. We've already seen this. Their offensive

1393
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 2: line isn't fully healthy. So what are they gonna try

1394
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: to do? They're gonna try to run it. Well. The

1395
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: Saints rundy is pretty good. They're seventh in rush EPA

1396
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: tenth and rush success rate. So I don't know how

1397
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,480
Speaker 2: the Falcons moved the ball here. Drake London is so important,

1398
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: like he might be the most valuable wide receiver in

1399
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: the NFL because number one, he's really good. Number two

1400
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: to drop off to who else they have is massive

1401
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 2: And if you look at their numbers, like his on

1402
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: off splits, they average five point seven yards per play

1403
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: with him four point four without him. How about the

1404
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: run game four point seven with him on the field,

1405
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 2: three point five without him? Because without London you can

1406
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: just load the box, worry about bijon. That's what the

1407
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: that's what the Dolphins did. I mean his Without him

1408
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: on the field, their EPA per play is essentially equal

1409
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 2: to the Browns offense. The only team worse, the only

1410
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: offense it's worse is the Titans.

1411
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1412
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: So there are other receivers over the past four games,

1413
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: whether it's Cousins or Pennix, there are other receivers not

1414
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: named Drake London have been targeted thirty eight times. They

1415
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: have thirteen catches. It's a it's a mess and it's

1416
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 2: a horrible spot. So yeah, I like the Saints here

1417
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: shuck did look but he's pushing the ball down the field.

1418
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: If Saints are pretty much fully healthy at home off

1419
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 2: of by I love this here.

1420
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I saw this thing on

1421
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: Instagram that these Falcons fans aren't happy, and they were

1422
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: going on this rant that after Kyle Pitts, it was

1423
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 1: like one of the great eight or nine player stretches

1424
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: in like draft history. It's like Jamar Chase pine Sewell,

1425
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,879
Speaker 1: you're right, Patrick's ter Dan, DeVonta Smith and Michah Parsons,

1426
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: J C. Horn, I'm not going to exact order. Even

1427
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle like he's way better than Kyle Pitts. Basically,

1428
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: their point was you could have close your eyes, taken

1429
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: the group of players thrown to Dart and it would

1430
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: have been impossible to screw up. Yet the Falcons big

1431
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: picture screwed it up and they got the player that

1432
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: none of those other teams would trade their guy for.

1433
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: Most of them would laugh. I mean there are multiple

1434
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers in the group. I mean, honestly, Jamar

1435
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: Chase pine Sewell, MICHAEH. Parsons, I mean, Devonte is gonna

1436
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: have a long career with a lot of numbers. Right,

1437
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: you know what's.

1438
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: Famin the Bengals get it right and you don't hit

1439
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: the draft, and yeah, it's just if it feels like

1440
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 2: the Falcons are never going to get it right, and

1441
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: they're never going to recover from twenty eight three.

1442
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: Another thing, yeah, it kind of broke their franchise. The

1443
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: other thing I saw on Instagram, which I kind of

1444
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: hope it was true that like Ceedee Lamb and George

1445
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,879
Speaker 1: Pickens were out gambling and boozing and were like puking.

1446
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: But again, I mean it's Instagram. I want that to

1447
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: be true because I feel like Al Davis, like back

1448
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: in the seventies, like that was his team, like Kenny

1449
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: not Kenny Powers, but Kenny Stabler used to say, like

1450
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: I'd read the playbook by the light of the juke box,

1451
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 1: but they won and Al didn't give a shit. John Madden,

1452
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: you do whatever you want that play. When George Pickens

1453
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: scored on Monday Night, it was like the Raiders do

1454
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: a little one two three, We quit because that was

1455
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: whoa now different animal Fangio. It's crazy, you know, this

1456
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: is why how he's so good, Like they're the defending champs.

1457
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: They were winning games, but it didn't quite look right

1458
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: and he was just aggressive aggressive. Most of these other teams,

1459
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: like I got Lions fans in my dms, like Bro,

1460
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: we're always talking about the next five years, like live

1461
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: in the freaking moment, why aren't we going and how

1462
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: he's going after why aren't we going after these players?

1463
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: He has way more hardware than we have recently. It's like, well,

1464
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: that's just the way he thinks. Man, He's just and

1465
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: that's their owner, Like we'll pay this guy. And it's

1466
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: also like Jalen Phillips will give you an eight or

1467
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: nine game tryout. If you're good, we got we'll extend you.

1468
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's what they're doing. They're getting in early

1469
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: a third round. They're worth paying the premium. If he's good,

1470
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: we have free access to him, and we'll give him

1471
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: a contract extension. That's why they do it. And this

1472
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: defense looks fantastic. So I think that this is the classic,

1473
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: Like everyone's gonna be like, oh, Dallas. I think the

1474
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: Eagles defense, I mean their defensive team and Fangio that

1475
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: that over the last couple of weeks team speed, Jalen

1476
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: Phillips is it feels like has even risen. The two

1477
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 1: defensive tackles look a lot better. Obviously, their linebacker plays fantastic.

1478
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: Just their unit at from when you get a good

1479
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: pass rush, you can make random DB's look pretty good.

1480
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: Most people don't have like multiple good corners. That's not

1481
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: the way it works. I mean, look at the Rams.

1482
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: Like the Rams, it's the defensive line that changes the game.

1483
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: So I kind of like the Eagles in this spot

1484
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: where I feel like a lot of people are gonna

1485
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: lean on Dallas just because it was recency biased.

1486
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did. I played the Cowboys plus

1487
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 2: three and a half. It's come down to the three.

1488
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: If you can get three and a half, I still

1489
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: like the Cowboys at three. I do not, and mainly

1490
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 2: it's the main reason is number one. I do think

1491
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 2: the Cowboys defense will be better after their additions against

1492
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 2: the run, right, I mean, you add Williams to that

1493
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: defensive line, you get your you know, you add Wilson

1494
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: over shown back. Their front now which can generate pressure,

1495
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 2: is going to be better against the run. And then

1496
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 2: in the back end all they do it's not gonna

1497
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: be good. But they play a ton of zone, and

1498
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 2: that's what we want to do against the Eagles. The

1499
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 2: Eagles that Jale Hurts's numbers versus man or here or

1500
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: a zone, they're here and it's Eberflus. You're gonna play

1501
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: a ton of zone, and we have seen that Eagles

1502
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 2: offense is still broken. Like's they came out of the

1503
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: by they now Packers defense is really good. The line's

1504
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: defense is okay, and there was wind in conditions. But

1505
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: the Lions with pumpk outdoor Jared Goff, I mean Jared Goff,

1506
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: if you see him with a glove on, he's the

1507
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 2: he's basically j J. McCarthy. He went two of eight,

1508
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: two of eighteen at one point, I mean he was

1509
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: was he fourteen to thirty seven? The lines went oh

1510
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: five on fourth down. The NFL record is zero of

1511
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: six that the Lions set against the Patriots goth outdoors

1512
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: shocker against Bailey z Appy in the game that they

1513
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 2: I think that line's lost twenty nothing a few years ago.

1514
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 2: And they had a chance if there wasn't a phantom

1515
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 2: pi they we got the ball back Todd with a

1516
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 2: chance of tie. Now they probably wouldn't have went down

1517
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 2: the field, but.

1518
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: That just shows you no chance with golf.

1519
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 2: That's how limited this Eagles offense is. They and now

1520
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 2: you just know Lane Johnson and like they've.

1521
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 1: Been doing, can cust right, he's out, so their backup

1522
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 1: seven and then so like.

1523
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: The offensive line is not the same, which is hurting Barkley,

1524
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 2: and they they're just not getting margin on teams. They

1525
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: were lying on their defense, and I agree that their

1526
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 2: defense is only getting better and they're offensive.

1527
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: Would you put then them in like the Denver Houston

1528
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: category based on the last couple of weeks, Now they

1529
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: add Jalen Phillips.

1530
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're up there. I mean I still have Houston one,

1531
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: Denver two with withs or Tan, but the Eagles are

1532
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: right there. They're i mean, fango out of the bye.

1533
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: These defense is usually trend up with like Phillips. They

1534
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: you know, they got a couple other guys back healthy

1535
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 2: there and then you have those those Georgia guys in

1536
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: the middle. Their defense is only going to get better.

1537
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: And yet Phillips looks incredible. It is a great addition

1538
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 2: by Howie. But the offense is not getting any better.

1539
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: I mean, the offense is getting worse. I mean, they've

1540
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 2: had their two of the worst offensive games from an

1541
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: EPA perspective over the past three years in the past

1542
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: two weeks, and like they just can't get bill margin right.

1543
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 2: They have eight wins on the year, seven have come

1544
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: by one possession, So like They're teams are in it

1545
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 2: against them, and I think that the Dallas defense, because

1546
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: they played a ton of zone, because they're better up front,

1547
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: I think that they can. I mean, everyone's getting stops

1548
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: against the Eagles. So the only team that has it

1549
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: is when like the Giants were down to all their

1550
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: backups and they Giants cannot stop the run to save

1551
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 2: their life, so Barkley was able to go off. And

1552
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: then on the other side, Yes, the Eagles d is

1553
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 2: trending up, but I still trust the Cowboys to put

1554
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 2: up some points at home. Dak's playing at an MVP level.

1555
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 2: That offense is very tough to contain, and Dak is

1556
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: Dak for whatever reason, dominates the NFC East against the

1557
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 2: Sperry's thirty one and thirteen against the spread against the NCS,

1558
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: covering by about a touchdown per game over seventy percent.

1559
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: I know Dallas on a short week, but that was

1560
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: an easy win. And the Eagles this is the third

1561
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 2: game in thirteen days after two hard fock games, So

1562
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 2: what do I think the most likely outcome here is

1563
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 2: Eagles went by three, And like the other thing is,

1564
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 2: once the Eagles get a lead, they at the end

1565
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: of the game. They could go on like a seven

1566
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: minute drive and then just kill the clock. But I

1567
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: think Dallas keeps it close and is uh feisty. Hear

1568
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: against the Eagles offense, it's just incapable of building margin.

1569
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: And now you're without maybe the most valuable right tackle

1570
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: in the league, your center, and that's contributing to some

1571
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 2: of the issues that the Eagles are having. You did

1572
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 2: mention the Raiders and do they have quit? Maybe? But

1573
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: I bet the minus three and.

1574
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: A half I kind of like them too and a half.

1575
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 2: Chador is not ready to be an NFL quarterback right now,

1576
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: not nowhere close.

1577
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: What would be a third day But if you just

1578
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 1: go third day rookie quarterback, first start midseason on the road,

1579
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the stats would be on your side to

1580
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: take the Raiders right.

1581
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: Yes, but I think, like from everything I've.

1582
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: Heard, the Browns offensive line is terrible too. I mean,

1583
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: Crosby is still playing his ass off. I could see

1584
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: Crosby having a massive day.

1585
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: You could have like five sacks this game, yeah, I

1586
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: mean I believe. Yeah. Dating back to nineteen ninety nine,

1587
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: the Browns have had seventeen quarterbacks make their first career start.

1588
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: They're ower and seven Tina those games.

1589
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: But I feel that sucks. They like football so much,

1590
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: and it's like the Raiders fans like these people love football,

1591
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: which I I love people that love football, and it's

1592
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: just after there's a certain point of like every team

1593
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 1: has a shitty couple of years, like the Patriots, but

1594
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: just like it never ends. It never ends. If you're

1595
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: a Browns fan or a Raider fan. It just feels like,

1596
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: in perpetuity, we're gonna suck.

1597
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: And then you got to watch the Ravens be good.

1598
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 2: The team that left Cleve. They've won a couple of

1599
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: Super Bowls. So yeah, I have a ton of friends

1600
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, even though I'm a Ravens fan, and it's

1601
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: they call it the Factory of Sadness. I go up

1602
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 2: there for one game in a year. Every year. I

1603
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: feel I feel for brown If.

1604
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: You're a Raider fan, it's like, you know, we're all

1605
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,879
Speaker 1: moving us in the Chargers. We might share a building.

1606
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: Then like several years later we get Grood and they

1607
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: get shitty coaches. Blows up in our face. A couple

1608
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 1: of years later they get Jim Harbaugh. It's like they're

1609
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: just gonna be good. The Broncos get Sean Payton, that

1610
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: East we already done, was like, what is we are

1611
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: so screwed? We got seventy five year old Pete Carroll,

1612
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: we got Chip Kelly, who is just running a great

1613
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: scam right now, I mean cashing them Tom Brady private

1614
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: equity money. It's like, this sucks. I mean, this sucks.

1615
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 2: Miserable. Yeah, And there was some like optimism going into

1616
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 2: the air, and.

1617
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: I kind of believed it. I thought they would be

1618
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: a little feisty.

1619
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's Chip Kelly's good a disaster. Carol's

1620
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 2: not been good. The offensive line is in shambles. It's

1621
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean that you lost Colt Miller's one of the

1622
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 2: most underrated left tackles, and you lost Cowers Johnson is

1623
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: probably their best in tier lineman. And it's falling to pieces.

1624
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 2: That's my one concern here. I mean, this total is

1625
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 2: down to thirty five and a half. It's indoors you.

1626
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: I think there's been two totals that have been thirty

1627
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 2: five thirty five and a half over the past thirty

1628
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 2: years that that is low. I could see the under

1629
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: but I'm afraid of short fields. Like so, I'm afraid

1630
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 2: Niles Garrett Company could just wreck havoc on Gino. But

1631
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 2: what this comes down to to me and keep it mine.

1632
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 2: I mentioned this last week. The Browns defense is not

1633
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: the same on the road at home. I almost always

1634
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: bet them. They covered again last week. Over the past

1635
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: three seasons, the most profitable home team against the spread,

1636
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 2: it's not the Lions and degenerate Dan Campbell. It's the Browns'

1637
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 2: sixty three percent against the spread. The least profitable team

1638
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 2: on the road over the past three years is the Browns.

1639
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: They're five and seventeen against the spread twenty two point

1640
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: seven percent. They're film to cover by a bottle touchdown

1641
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: per game. Why because their defense isn't the same. Their

1642
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: offense stinks everywhere now they have tackle injuries. So but

1643
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 2: the main point here is I don't think Schudor Sanders

1644
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 2: is ready to come into an NFL game and do

1645
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 2: anything against a competent defense. The Raiders have a decent defense,

1646
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: Like they played some tough offenses this year. Patrick Graham's

1647
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 2: a good coordinator. They'll take away explosive plays. They have

1648
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 2: prosby adjusted for schedule, they're like twelve.

1649
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean fairness. George Pickens and ceedee Lamb lighting me up.

1650
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: It's like those guys are elite players. Yes, especially George

1651
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: this year. I mean George has been pretty dominant.

1652
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's just nothing the brown like. But Shador,

1653
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: He's from everything that I've heard and seen. He can't

1654
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: read Blitz. He's not ready to and that that's been

1655
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: the thing is preparation in his care and it's like

1656
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 2: it's just not there yet. That's why he hasn't seen

1657
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: the field for over Gabriel, who's not good. Gabriel's be

1658
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 2: one of the worst. You would think, how can it

1659
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: get much worse? Well, I'll tell you because all the

1660
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: people let him close to and the Browns were like,

1661
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 2: it's you know, he's not ready. I had the I

1662
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 2: told you. I think I had the Browns plus eight

1663
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 2: and a half against my Ravens. They're up six in

1664
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter with the ball, and I thought I

1665
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 2: was gonna lose my bat. It's the fourth quarter with

1666
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 2: the dominant defense. I just didn't want the Browns to

1667
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 2: have the ball because I was like, there's gonna throw.

1668
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 2: So he threw one of the worst picks I've ever seen.

1669
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: He also want to roll out was trying to throw

1670
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: like a little just dump off. It went Kyle Hail

1671
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 2: to drop the pick six. He went oh of eight

1672
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 2: against the blitz with one hundred percent pressure rate. He

1673
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 2: held the all the longest of any He doesn't he

1674
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: doesn't look at his first read, he took a sack

1675
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: almost as a safety. He had another sack where he

1676
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 2: fumbled it, but the Browns offensive lineman recovered it. The

1677
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: Ravens almost won that game by twenty one, and they

1678
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: were down six in the fourth quarter. So I just

1679
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 2: think it's.

1680
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: Well, his natural reaction a little kleb bye is to

1681
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: take off. Well, Caleb is a big time athlete, and

1682
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: as he and.

1683
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 2: That he got away at look Schador. When he has time,

1684
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: he has a great army. He's very accurate, but right

1685
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 2: now he just can't read NFL defenses and blitzes. And

1686
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 2: like he is used to a Colorado, he would just

1687
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: go all the way back and then he was able

1688
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: to shred big twelve defenses with really good receivers. By

1689
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 2: the way, they're all in the NFL, and the Browns

1690
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: don't have that, and they don't either a bad offensive line,

1691
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: bad receivers, and this is a different type of speed.

1692
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 2: This is not the Big twelve is the NFL. So

1693
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: not to say sure it can't ever be good, but

1694
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 2: right now it's he's not right. I mean last week

1695
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: was a disaster. There.

1696
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of eyeballs on this game

1697
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: that no one would have watched two weeks.

1698
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's a lot more interesting. Id with the Raiders.

1699
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 2: It's disgusting. Who wants to lay points of the Raiders team?

1700
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: But I did. Okay, here's here's a stat because you

1701
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: can go back to the the last preseason game that

1702
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 2: Sanders played. He played against the Rams, who sent their

1703
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 2: scout team. They didn't even they didn't send I forget

1704
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 2: who started for the Rams in that game. They went

1705
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 2: to Cleveland. It was like a it was a Saturday afternoon.

1706
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 2: It was like a noon kick. They they didn't they

1707
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 2: didn't play anybody, and they're was like a third string defense.

1708
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 2: And I think he had like five he was sacked

1709
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 2: like five or six times in a quarter. But over

1710
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 2: the including that game and then last week's game, over

1711
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: the last the last thirty one times that Shedr Sanders

1712
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 2: has dropped back, the Browns have negative seven yards thirty

1713
01:29:55,160 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: one dropbacks negative seven yards. That's stuff.

1714
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 1: I can't I can't wait. Okay, speaking of the Rams, uh,

1715
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: I mean, were you on the Sean Tucker train before

1716
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: that performance the other night. I'll be honest, I didn't

1717
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: know much about him, but I immediately googled him.

1718
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 2: He's bringing some juice that he can scoot that they've

1719
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:48,480
Speaker 2: been missing without Bucky.

1720
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: Sneaky with Carolina, which if you would have told me

1721
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: the Niners Carolina would be a big game. I know

1722
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: it was on Monday night when the schedule came out,

1723
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: but like people would like there'd be a decent amount

1724
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: on the line of like you're crazy, but there is

1725
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: for both teams, especially.

1726
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: For car tiebreaker too.

1727
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well what about I mean they still

1728
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: play Tampa twice. I mean Tampa's just it felt like

1729
01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: they were just gonna run away with it because we've

1730
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: you the Atlanta Falcons as being the team that would

1731
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: be chasing him. Turns out as the Carolina Panthers. It's

1732
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: not inconceivable. I mean, the forty nine ers are rolling

1733
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: out a UFL defense. So if perty McCaffrey and Kittle

1734
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: and Pierce All's back, if they're scoring points, probably be okay.

1735
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: But if they have an off day. That defense, I

1736
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: don't think most people realize a couple percent through before

1737
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: and fifty.

1738
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 2: Yards NFL record for completions in a game.

1739
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: If you would have told me his stat line to

1740
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: going into that game, I'd be like, Oh, the Niners

1741
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: probably gonna lose this game forty to thirty or something.

1742
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, they had a kick return, They had

1743
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 2: a bunch of turnovers, and then they had a ninety

1744
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 2: eight yard kick return. Otherwise that game probably then, you know,

1745
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 2: the Niners probably would have won, but it would have

1746
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 2: been like forty to third.

1747
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: They've been tight. Yeah, it would have been tight. They're

1748
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: gonna play in a lot of tight games with that defense.

1749
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1750
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna take Tampa six and a half

1751
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: here that that was a massive win for the Rams,

1752
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: which is crazy. He throws all these picks and he

1753
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 1: does not look good. It's not like balls are getting tipped.

1754
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: I mean his picks were hitting guys in their chest.

1755
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: The one jump past thing that he did that is like, Sam,

1756
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 1: I'm your fan, but what are we doing here? Still covered?

1757
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: But I think I'm gonna take Tampa here plus six

1758
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: and a half.

1759
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that speaks to the Seahawks defense that it's pretty

1760
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 2: elite for four picks and they were able to.

1761
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Staff through for one hundred and thirty yards.

1762
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they still have to kick to win it. So

1763
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 2: we'll see if the Bucks get any healthier here, especially

1764
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:40,560
Speaker 2: at seven. Definitely would look at the Bucks. Here's like,

1765
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 2: so one of the things that the Rams are doing

1766
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 2: lately is that you're using thirteen personnel over the past month.

1767
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 2: I think they've used it like forty at the time.

1768
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 2: So they're using like three tight ends on the field

1769
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 2: at the same time. And that's kind of part of

1770
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: a bigger trend in the NFL this year is and

1771
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: the Ravens have been ahead of the curve, right, They

1772
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 2: were doing it with a lot of the twelve personnel

1773
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 2: with likely and Andrews and then full back in there

1774
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 2: and we're a card and then you have Lamar and like,

1775
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 2: so it was like a heavier offense. Why was that advantageous? Well,

1776
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 2: most importantly, defenses aren't used all the other weeks. You're

1777
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 2: playing eleven personnel, right, and it's the same kind of

1778
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 2: offenses and spread, So you know, these things are cyclical.

1779
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 1: To become a heavy spread league. Lawl like college yeah.

1780
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 2: And then offenses as so now you're saying, like, look

1781
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 2: at the Steelers. The Steelers are running out there like

1782
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: two three tight ends all the time. The Seahawks are

1783
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 2: going heavy personnel, heavy placs and they're not even running

1784
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 2: it well, but they're throwing really well. And now the

1785
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 2: Rams one of the best offenses. Hell, they're going like

1786
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 2: three tight ends forty percent of the time. So one

1787
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 2: of the biggest issues with that that you see from

1788
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 2: NFL teams is they are matching. They are matching these

1789
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 2: heavy personnel formations on with their base defense, which is

1790
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: the wrong approach. And what I mean by that is,

1791
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 2: so if you have a bunch of tight ends out there,

1792
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 2: a lot of teams will say, Okay, let's put linebackers

1793
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 2: out there. We got to stop the run, and we

1794
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 2: gotta stop. But teams are throwing out of this and

1795
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 2: they're throwing to their tight ends and they're creating mismatches

1796
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 2: against non cover guys. The way the best way to

1797
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 2: approach this is you don't match the formation and you

1798
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 2: match the down and distance. Right, So if it's like

1799
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 2: a passing down, you have your your your nickel in there.

1800
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 2: The team that does it the best now you can't

1801
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 2: in order to do that if you have like a

1802
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 2: really good nickel that could also be basically a linebacker

1803
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 2: and cover. The Seahawks already have one of those, and

1804
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 2: nickel even more a rookie out of South Carolina. The

1805
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:53,719
Speaker 2: Seahawks match base with heavy on heavy personnel only twenty

1806
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,560
Speaker 2: percent of the time. That's the lowest by far. So

1807
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 2: basically they just always have their nickel out there. It

1808
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: gives them a lot of flexibility and they can still

1809
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 2: defend the run. The league average is eighty percent. Two

1810
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 2: teams that do a good job of doing this that

1811
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 2: around fifty percent are the Bears and the Bucks. So

1812
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 2: the Bucks do a good job of doing this, which

1813
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 2: is really important against the Rams. They're not just gonna

1814
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 2: when the Rams are three tight ends, they're not gonna,

1815
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, bring in all their linebackers. They can still

1816
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 2: They're gonna still have their cover guys out there, which

1817
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 2: is important because the Rams can really still throw and

1818
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 2: do a lot out of that formation. And the reason

1819
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 2: the Bucks can do that is because their run defense

1820
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,600
Speaker 2: is really good just with their guides up front, and

1821
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 2: they don't have to really worry about it. So a

1822
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 2: little in the weeds there. I don't know if that

1823
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 2: all makes sense, but from that perspective, I think the

1824
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: Bucks will be able to handle some of this thirteen

1825
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 2: personnel stuff that's giving other teams issues. But one of

1826
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 2: the reasons it didn't in Seattle's because they're not matching.

1827
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 2: They're able to kind of play nickel and still contain

1828
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 2: the run and then cover all the guys that the

1829
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 2: Rams are throwing to. So the Bucks aren't as good

1830
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 2: at it as Seattle, but their run deal are is

1831
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 2: just as good, and they're not matching with bass as

1832
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 2: often as a lot of these other teams are doing,

1833
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 2: which is a major mistake in my opinion. And I

1834
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 2: think eventually all these defenses will catch on and they

1835
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 2: got to get you got to get more of these

1836
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 2: hybrid safety nickel linebacker guys who become so much more important,

1837
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 2: and then you're able to to do what the Seahawks do.

1838
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't I don't mind taking the seven

1839
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 2: here with the Bucks a huge game, Like if the

1840
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 2: Bucks lose and there are seven point dogs and the

1841
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 2: Panthers win in the shootout, you're the Panthers are in

1842
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 2: first place on Tuesday morning, and it's a huge game

1843
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:48,799
Speaker 2: and wild card tiebreakers and uh yeah, so the Panthers

1844
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 2: have been feisty. I mean this is all the also

1845
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 2: a team that went on the road and wanted Green Bay.

1846
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 2: They're you know, Bryce Young's playing better, they can run

1847
01:36:56,040 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 2: the ball, Teed McMillan's really good. So yeah, two really

1848
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 2: important games in that division, and especially for the forty

1849
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 2: nine ers, like because as you said, they're probably gonna

1850
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 2: lose some shootouts, win some shootouts, so every game is

1851
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 2: so important in the NFC, which is just gonna be

1852
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 2: in all out war. I mean, I can't This is

1853
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 2: the first time in a very long time now, granted

1854
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm a Ravens fan that I look at the the

1855
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 2: playoff picture and the projected matchups, especially the Chiefs aren't

1856
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 2: in there. Imagine if the Ravens don't get in either

1857
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: that I'm like, I can't wait for the NFC Compared

1858
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 2: to the AFC. I mean, like right now, in the NFC,

1859
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:36,480
Speaker 2: you're talking.

1860
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 1: Well, you got a couple. I mean, Tampa LA is

1861
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 1: like kind of an early season playoff game. That's Seattle

1862
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Rams game, early season playoff game, this forty nine er

1863
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: Carolina game. Assuming Tampa loses, you know, there's not as

1864
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: much pressure on Carolina. They lose, they still you know,

1865
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: control a lot of their destiny because they play them.

1866
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 1: I do think there's a ton of pressure on the

1867
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, given how Seattle's not going way. Obviously

1868
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: the Rams would be rolling. They have the Browns Cleveland

1869
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 1: the following week. And you mentioned this. Schwartz owns Kyle

1870
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 1: Shanahan a couple of years ago, and they played.

1871
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 2: In that Brown's almost always beat They beat him last year.

1872
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: They yeah game, Their defense is good at home. It'd

1873
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: probably be bad weather, pretty holding onto the ball. He's

1874
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: got a little golf to him. It's not as good

1875
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 1: in I mean, you see him in a dome. I

1876
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: mean he looks fantastic. You know, you get him in

1877
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 1: that inclement weather, it'd be cold, windy, wet. That Browns

1878
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 1: game is tricky. You'd have told me at the beginning

1879
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 1: of the season that forty nine Ers win ten or

1880
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: eleven games. I would have circled that, like that's probably

1881
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 1: a loss going into their bye. But you win this thing,

1882
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: you're eight and four, You get a little breathing room. Okay,

1883
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 1: you lose that, you still control your own destiny against

1884
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: the Bears the following week. Who are gonna start playing

1885
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: the Packers and the Lions. That thing can get a

1886
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 1: little weird. I think this is game at home Monday

1887
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: night football. You win this game, you're eight and four.

1888
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 1: You got a pretty good path to get to that

1889
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: seven seed and pretty remarkable accomplished had given the injuries,

1890
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 1: but given your defense. I mean McMillan that listen. I

1891
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, man, this is kind of

1892
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: big guy. He's not that fast. I get he was

1893
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: really productive in the Big twelve at Arizona. I've seen

1894
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: this song and dance before. He looks awesome. That's that's

1895
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: a good pick. Even again, now granted we kind of weird.

1896
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,640
Speaker 1: Early start to his career did look pretty good, made

1897
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: some plays last year, showed some explosion or last week,

1898
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: excuse me, against Atlanta, if they can get him going

1899
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: a little bit with McMillan, their offense, they do got

1900
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: a little pop to him.

1901
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can run the ball, and you can run

1902
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 2: on San Frana. The other thing is that San Francisco

1903
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 2: is not getting any pressure right now, so Zero can

1904
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 2: just sit back there and.

1905
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 1: It's not an easy game for the Niners. Like I

1906
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 1: I would not trust with the points just because their

1907
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 1: defense is so atrocio.

1908
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I took I took the seven, just I can't

1909
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 2: trust him the win by margin, like you have to

1910
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 2: truck the win by ten or more. Plus the back

1911
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 2: door would be very easy against that defense if you

1912
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:54,679
Speaker 2: need it. But yeah, the NFC's crazy around. The Lions

1913
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: aren't in the playoffs at the season ended right now,

1914
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 2: and neither of the Panthers. It's pretty wide. I mean,

1915
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: the matchups in the first round be forty nine Ers

1916
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 2: at Rams, Packers at Bears, Seahawks at Bucks, Eagles by

1917
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 2: Like that's intriguing. Whereas you know, like in the AFC,

1918
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: you got the top seeds are like Daniel Jones and

1919
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks and Aaron Rodgers, and you got the the

1920
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 2: Chargers without an O line the Jags. Like the NFC

1921
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 2: right now as it currently stands, is way more intriguing

1922
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 2: than totally in the AFC.

1923
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 1: Well, Stuckey, enjoy the weekend and we will reconvene next week,

1924
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 1: going to the Turkey Day and actually pretty good slate

1925
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: on three games on Thursday and then even the Black

1926
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 1: Friday games, Like damn, that's that's a pretty good Black

1927
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: Friday game.

1928
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got college football days with Friday and Saturdays.

1929
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a good wait.

1930
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 2: We will catch up Tuesday and go through it.

1931
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon, buddy. All right, bro, have a

1932
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 1: great night.

1933
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:00,759
Speaker 2: The volume