WEBVTT - Josh Robert Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>This week, the Craig Ferguson Fancy Rascal Tour continues in Joliet,

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois and Columbus, Ohio. I will also be performing alongside

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Leno and Arsenio Hall as parts of The Kings

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<v Speaker 1>of Late Night Dates and Pittsburgh, PA and Cincinnati, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Tickets available at the Craig Ferguson show dot com slash tour.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Craig Ferguson. This podcast is called Joy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Rocket science. I talk to people I like

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<v Speaker 1>about their pursuit of happiness. Here's Josh Robert Thompson, a

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<v Speaker 1>comedic genius who, amongst other things, was the voice and

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<v Speaker 1>personality behind Jeff Peterson, the greatest sidekick in late night

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<v Speaker 1>television history.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy. Yeah, I feel all right? Oh yeah, I feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>See now here's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You put the headphones on, but you leave it off

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<v Speaker 1>one you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a real thing? Or is that just to

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<v Speaker 1>mess with people that don't do voice all the time?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you do it. Yeah. It freaks me out

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<v Speaker 2>when it feels like I'm trapped. If I got both

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<v Speaker 2>ears covered? What do you if you get sinus infection?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get closer? Phobic. It can't work, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>get lost. Do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Look I seriously though, because you're like a top voiceover guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm a top voice. You are

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<v Speaker 1>a top voiceover guy. You're around, You're the voice. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever need a voiceover, I like, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even call anyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like go to pet Boys, You go to Pepe.

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<v Speaker 2>I got guys milling around out in front of pet Boys.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get a pretty cheap voiceover. I think in

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<v Speaker 2>front of Home Depot there are guys waiting in trucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Those guys are great. Wow, some great voice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way I think. I mean, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go into things in a minute. But just as we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about voiceover, do you remember that thing that routine

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Rock the Oscars when he was mean about voiceovers.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you oh about when he said all you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>do is go in and talk like yourself. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's it's a little that's listen, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the way it's going. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know all the celebrities, celebrity train your dragon guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That ahole.

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<v Speaker 1>He just walked a little bit about it would make

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<v Speaker 1>Myers stud Shrek. I was like, he's not even Scottish,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, well waitnut, he's not even an uber either.

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<v Speaker 2>He must have been deeply hurt by that could have

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<v Speaker 2>been yours man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Craig Ferguson what you can call it, Shadow Stevens

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<v Speaker 1>is another voice Shadow Steven legendary.

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<v Speaker 2>He's done this podcast, has he? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>He talked about the time when he was psychotic with cocaine. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was in his cabin and topanga with shotguns,

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<v Speaker 1>listening to imaginary people trying to get in through the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a thing you've done because I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see that. Well I did do that, only I

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<v Speaker 2>did it live on various streaming platforms about twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of went, yeah, yeah, you did do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. What happened there? You know you were you

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<v Speaker 1>were like spilling your guts in audio form? Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>and video as well. Oh really yeah, I would either

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<v Speaker 1>I would have.

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<v Speaker 2>A good I'm glad they're gone, but I'm sure someone

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<v Speaker 2>will find them to share them with you. Oh. I was, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was was. I became pretty angry man

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<v Speaker 2>after the after the show ended, I didn't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what I was supposed to do next.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I understand that, you know, I understand that because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's terrifying when a job like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't prepared. I didn't know what. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you do these things? How does I was on

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<v Speaker 2>the show for probably eight years, is almost the entire run.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to my mind, you made the show. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like the show I had me in it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when you turned up and brought not just the role Ball,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like Jeff was kind of like the when

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<v Speaker 1>you made that thing come alive. Yeah, made Jeff go.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think of you as Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think as Jeff being a separate entity. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you are. You're the guy who plays Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, when that happened, that to me, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the show became the show. It's nice to say

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<v Speaker 1>that's the truth. And but before that, you were doing Robert.

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<v Speaker 2>It started with Schwarzenegger, right, Craig, how are you check

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<v Speaker 2>in with me at the Capitol And they put these

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<v Speaker 2>this appliance on my face to make me kind of

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<v Speaker 2>look like Arnold. I would do like two hours of makeup,

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<v Speaker 2>completely unnecessary makeup for like a five minute sketch that

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<v Speaker 2>we would do. They put me in a muscle suit,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there was at let's check in with Arnold because

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<v Speaker 1>he was the governor at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. And it was this guy, Trent Coottner.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Trent. He was a great makeup artist,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was color blind, okay, And he told me

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the told me in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the makeup. It's like, I hope this is right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm colorblind, But that's how we you know. It was

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Strazzulo, one of the writers from your show I

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<v Speaker 2>Loved You, a great writer who found me on Public

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<v Speaker 2>Access TV. I was doing my Preacher character, that's right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was getting high and watching TV and so

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>A wild write all that because when you started, I

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<v Speaker 1>said you should do stand up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the first time you did stand up was

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<v Speaker 1>opening for me at Radio City Music.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my fourth gig.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, you said, Josh, you do stand up right again?

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<v Speaker 2>I do the voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can do it pretty much. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can do a pretty Josh, she could do stand

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<v Speaker 1>up right? Sure I can't. Yeah, you bet I can,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Ferguson, no problem. Where do we start? And the

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<v Speaker 1>first gig was what the Venetian in Vegas?

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<v Speaker 2>That was your first gig. That's a hard gig. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful room, man, Yeah, it's a beautiful room, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great place to play. But the Vegas, yeah, is

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult People think Vegas is easy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually one of the worst places to play. It

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<v Speaker 2>is because a lot of the people that are there

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<v Speaker 2>don't really want to be there. That you're just that's

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<v Speaker 2>just part of the Oh you can eat what's.

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<v Speaker 4>Going on there? Is? What show?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go see that? I've never seen it? Who's there?

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<v Speaker 4>A gay from How to Train Your Dragon? I like

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<v Speaker 4>his worky, Yeah, I enjoy his voice work. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>Shrek disappointingly. He talks funny. Yeah, My wife and I

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<v Speaker 4>love his comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>So listen, let's talk about Cleveland, Josh. Yeah, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Let's talk a little bit about Cleveland, Josh. Because

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about you know how you got a

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<v Speaker 1>little angry after the show. Yeah, man, So that didn't start.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that started back when you were when you were

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland, when that's usually how it started. It starts

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<v Speaker 1>with the usually starts to talk to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've noticed the common denominator. Yeah, but if you're angry,

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<v Speaker 1>it's usually because you're in Cleveland. That's usually why I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there angry a couple of times, you see. So,

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<v Speaker 1>were you have the vintage growing up watching the Drew

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<v Speaker 1>carry Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, watched the Drew Cary I remember seeing Drew Carey

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<v Speaker 2>do his first i think his first TV stand up

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<v Speaker 2>on the Tonight Show. Tonight Show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and you everybody, when you were a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew he was a Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was sitting there in the living room watching

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<v Speaker 2>that on TV, thinking, how how can I get in

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<v Speaker 2>the How can I get there? How can I So

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<v Speaker 2>that that was that was one of the ways. That

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the things that started you off. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was sort of a little Jackie Robinson for you

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, yeah kind of yeah, all right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So how did it go with me? And how did

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<v Speaker 2>were you in theater? Were a lot of theater? I

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<v Speaker 2>was at the Cleveland Playhouse, I mean, you know, legendary

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<v Speaker 2>theater company in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, why did you get into that? Because you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're from a You're a blue collar kid, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean my mom's an artist, painter. Oh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a she went to art school, very artistic background.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't. I didn't know that. And my my

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<v Speaker 2>biological father, whom I never met, was also an incredible painter.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've I've since seen photographs of his art

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<v Speaker 2>shows and is he no longer was no longer with us.

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<v Speaker 2>He passed away. He passed away in nineteen ninety from AIDS.

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<v Speaker 2>You know he was he was gay. Wow, that was

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<v Speaker 2>a whole part of my life that I discovered, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>later on after he passed, my mother told me everything

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<v Speaker 2>about my father. So he was a gay man. But

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<v Speaker 2>he left and moved to San Francisco. He moved to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bay Area and became a very prominent artist in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bay Area. And seeing these photos of his art

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<v Speaker 2>shows and seeing him standing next to his paintings, it

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<v Speaker 2>was mind blowing. But my favorite photo of him because

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<v Speaker 2>he had a tough childhood, you know, right, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to imagine growing up in his time and being gay,

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<v Speaker 2>even in nineteen ninety. When my mother told me that information,

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to Catholic school and I'm living in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the Midwest. I first thought was, am I

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<v Speaker 2>gay is going to be? You know? Is there going

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<v Speaker 2>to be something wrong with me? You know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was not talked about, you know. But there's a

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<v Speaker 2>photo of him that I have. That side of the

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<v Speaker 2>family has since given me a lot of photos of him,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a great photo of him at I think

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<v Speaker 2>Hamburger Mary's in San Francisco, maybe the original Hamburger Mary's,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but he's gathered with all of his friends.

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<v Speaker 2>There's all these guys and I assume his his boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>or partner with him, and he looks so happy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's a fucking great photo because he finally,

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<v Speaker 2>after all the pain that he went through, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he finally found his people. That's a hard journey. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he died of aates diabates. Yeah. God, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>people forget that. I mean that shit just went. It

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<v Speaker 2>was so terrifying. Forest Fire, Yeah, I remember when the

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<v Speaker 2>new one Rock Hudson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember that when Freddy Mercury and that Freddy

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was like what is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the people just fucking I remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty one, I was in New York and I

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<v Speaker 1>danced with the American Mordern danced there because I thought

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a dancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I can see that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like it was me and like twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>game man, which I was fantastic because I was from Scotland.

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<v Speaker 1>I was twenty one, I was cute and I was

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<v Speaker 1>straight and married to at the time, to we Scottish girl,

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<v Speaker 1>so they kind of adopted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I went back four years later, like half,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe more than a.

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<v Speaker 1>Half of the guys were gone, They're gone, yeah crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were out there hello, yeah go. Actually it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was contemporary modern dance. Oh so, so just

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of pretending there was a window.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't a window.

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<v Speaker 2>There was from the ground. Wasn't a rope you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh there's a flower. I'm a tree. I'm a tree. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't cut me, don't cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, don't cut me, cut me. Oh you've cut me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, yeah, there's a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Call me.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so you grew up in Cleveland, So did you

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<v Speaker 1>have a stepdad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my step dad. My stepdad is my dad? Rights

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<v Speaker 2>who you think of? Yeah, because he was there, proud.

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<v Speaker 2>He came into the picture around the time I was

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, three or four, right, And then

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<v Speaker 2>they got married when I was like five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you at the wedding? I was, that's cool, a

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<v Speaker 2>little guy, little tuxedo. And then I took I took

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<v Speaker 2>his last name Thompson, right, probably around eighty five eighty six.

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<v Speaker 2>We went down to the courthouse and you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>adopted me basically. That's that's and I remember, that's quite

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<v Speaker 2>a lovely story. Yeah, I remember crying. I remember I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't quite understand what it meant, right because I

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<v Speaker 2>was very young. But I remember crying in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the courthouse because I now had a new name, like

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a real father, and it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>became a real boy. I became a real boy. I

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<v Speaker 2>was Wooden prior to that. Yeah, I understand what happened

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<v Speaker 2>was I was a wood boy. I was by this

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<v Speaker 2>this Italian gentleman, Tom Hanks. Yeah you were Tom. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Trampellal So wait, thank you? So wait though, is he

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<v Speaker 2>still around your is? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So and your mom's still a right, Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>very lucky. That's great. Yeah, we are. Yeah, my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they've since divorced. My mom's been remarried now

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<v Speaker 2>for close to fifteen years. They both live here. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we all moved here to Los Angeles. Yeah, in like

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five from Cleveland. Why did you move from Cleveland? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it was very angry. We had to get away from

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<v Speaker 2>the anger in the Cleveland still hometime your hometown. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I go back and visit, you know, I visit my

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<v Speaker 2>my best well, my best friend, Matt Lodi passed away

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<v Speaker 2>bout a year and a half ago. Thanks by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>you we sort of talked about doing a little fundraiser.

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<v Speaker 2>Went really well, and he was just the nicest guy

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. But his family I still stay in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with, and a lot of my family still live

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<v Speaker 2>in Cleveland. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So you come out here and what you want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be? Do you you wanted to just be an actor?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be I want to be a director.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I started out making movies. I started out making

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<v Speaker 2>you know, monster movies. In my backyard. I still think

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<v Speaker 2>of that's that's still something that you're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>right a horror movie, there's no question. Yeah, writing and

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<v Speaker 2>directing is what I did when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, my mom was my camera person for my

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<v Speaker 2>horror movies, my monster movies. That's kind of great.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I took her to see The Fableman's Last November and

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<v Speaker 2>we were both just, you know, weeping through the entire

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<v Speaker 2>movie because that was like she kept turning to me, go, this,

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<v Speaker 2>this is you, this is us, I said, remember you

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<v Speaker 2>know this she used to you know, she'd she'd hold

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<v Speaker 2>the camera and like it'd be a chase scene in

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<v Speaker 2>one of my movies, and she'd be running with the

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<v Speaker 2>camera and her doctor Shull's flip flops can be heard

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<v Speaker 2>in the background and the camera is going like this.

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<v Speaker 2>But God bless her, but she but she took a

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<v Speaker 2>real interest in my creative endeavors. She fostered that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So when did the Because I always think

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<v Speaker 1>people who do voices the way you do voices that.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of uncanny, like, like you can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's a musician's skill. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the ear of a musician. That do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's right? I think that's I think that's true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think for me it was spending a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time alone. I'm an only child, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in Cleveland, an only child who doesn't like sports,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of don't have many other options, and you

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<v Speaker 1>get and you have that kind of thing of I'm

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<v Speaker 1>adopted and I might be gay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and being a latch key kid, which was you

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<v Speaker 2>know you basically you come home from school and your

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<v Speaker 2>parents aren't home from work yet. Yeah. And I had

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<v Speaker 2>an actual skeleton key because the house we lived in

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<v Speaker 2>was probably built in like nineteen oh one. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a two story house and we lived upstairs in in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 2>and downstairs was the landlord. This this sweet old woman

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<v Speaker 2>named Missus van Duser.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a good horror movie right here,

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<v Speaker 1>Missus von but we have she's sweet. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>start smelling cadavers. That's right, right, got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Which I were you? This is true? Did you? I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you guys moved to San Francisco. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>to get to try and find your dad, who's sadly

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's the sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But the cadavers follow you, that's they follow me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, Cadavers Across America.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the name of the that's the name of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a bad it's not about cadavers across America.

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<v Speaker 5>Shadow the Night on ABC Cadavers Josh Robert Thompson was

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<v Speaker 5>a boy who lived in Cleveland and had a skeleton key.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the weird thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a skeleton key, and then because the skeleton

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<v Speaker 1>blooms large in your future.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Well, I was a wooden boy, then I

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<v Speaker 2>became a real boy. Then I became a skeleton, and

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<v Speaker 2>you became a skeleton.

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<v Speaker 1>The skeleton thing is very interesting for those people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, which I don't know. There's not many, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are some. Yeah, yeah, the people who don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>When I talked to grant Emahara God Rest Rest in Peace,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the robot builder on the MythBusters, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were it came from. Actually, even before that, I had

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<v Speaker 1>watched ghost Rider. M h Na Nicholas Cake and I

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<v Speaker 1>had watched ghost Rider. I remember talking about the show

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<v Speaker 1>the next day saying that is American entertainment. A skeleton

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<v Speaker 1>who rides a motorcycle who's on fire. If you can

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<v Speaker 1>make a better movie than that I don't think you can.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where it started. That's where it started.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And in fact, until Top Gun Maverick, there was

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<v Speaker 1>no better movie than Ghost Rider in my opinion's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, I'm a ghost, I'm on a bike,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm on fire. I'm on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>But the then and I was talking about it, great

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<v Speaker 1>it was. And then Joe the Prop remember Joe the

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<v Speaker 1>Props guy, Joe Props, Joe Prop. Joe perhaps Joe Props

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<v Speaker 1>put a skeleton and he puts some like colored paper.

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<v Speaker 2>That was it. Yep, And I went, oh, that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I said that and the idea of Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson the robot skeleton sidekick kind of came from that.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there was a Robots Skelton Army. Wasn't there

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<v Speaker 2>a story that you told?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's right. I used to annoy mylogue without myla

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<v Speaker 1>that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was little at.

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<v Speaker 1>The time, and I said I was gonna start a

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<v Speaker 1>robot skeleton army and take over the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and he was very aggurate, you know, a little

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<v Speaker 2>kids guy. No, you can't do that, that happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. So it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like Terminator almost because all of that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Twitter made the rule, Grant made the robot.

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<v Speaker 2>Grand made the animated robot. But you guys had a

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<v Speaker 2>bet though, before that happened, before Jeff became real and materialized,

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<v Speaker 2>there was some bet between the two of you that

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<v Speaker 2>you would get Grant followers. That's right, he did.

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<v Speaker 1>You can if you get me one hundred thousand Twitter follows,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll build you a rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it took like an hour, right, Twitter was

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter was a different place. It was, man, Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter was like people were funny, creative and sweet and

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be friends with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you go on it,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, not nearly as much as I ever did before. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just people are so many. Yeah, it's mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need it. Why are you so mean? I

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<v Speaker 2>became sort of ensnared in that for a while, speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of that anger, you know. Yeah, the the thing about

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter and the platforms that I was live streaming on

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<v Speaker 2>is it was this. It was like having a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of enablers in the palm of your hand, right, instant enablers, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you just whatever problem you have, you will have a

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<v Speaker 2>group of people that will agree with you and always

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<v Speaker 2>be on your side, even if you're the most fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up person. That's what I kind of got involved with

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<v Speaker 2>for a little while because I had a low opinion

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<v Speaker 2>of myself and I felt this is what I deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the weird thing was, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of suffered from that bit because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when we started messing around, the first thing we started

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<v Speaker 1>doing with a Rulebop with Jeff Pearson, it was pre recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>Bet that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You would say, you know, we prerecorded you going you're

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<v Speaker 1>the man Craig that Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the man in your pants rolls. That was Tom Straw,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, right, phrases right, and he Tom's a

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<v Speaker 2>really good writer and he's a fabulous guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was part of the creation of the creative

0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:20.120
<v Speaker 1>team put together Piers Yep, he was very much involved

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and he would fire off the phrases yep.

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<v Speaker 1>They would interject when I was talking. He would just

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<v Speaker 1>fire the men. And then when we started Jeff went

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<v Speaker 1>live became santient.

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<v Speaker 2>Was on the trip to Vegas, right. Why what happened

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<v Speaker 2>was we were shooting Vegas. We were doing a really

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<v Speaker 2>funny parody of the Hangover. That's where you and Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>are driving back from Vegas in like a fifty red

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<v Speaker 2>fifty seven Chevy. That's right, Yeah, trying to remember what

0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:50.119
<v Speaker 2>the hell happened. Jeff is wearing he's dressed like a bride,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got married. I married Jeff Peterson the Skeleton.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember there was a part where we were

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<v Speaker 2>on the Vegas Strip in this fifty seven Chevy. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you call like a camera truck, Yeah, the low loader, right,

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:08.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's always traffic. Yeah, And we were sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there and all these people started coming over to the

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<v Speaker 2>car to talk to you, which is fine. They're all

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<v Speaker 2>very nice people. But it was a really long day

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember I had it. So I'm I'm lying

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of the fifty seven Chevy. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to lie down so no one can see me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>puppeteering Jeff for the first time. I'm puppeteering. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not just the voice.

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<v Speaker 1>You were operating, the eye, everything mouth and right, and

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<v Speaker 1>the arm and right, and I so.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm crouched like you know, I'm lying like this and

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<v Speaker 2>I got the thing and I got the headset, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I have a blanket on top of me, and

0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 2>sitting on me. Sitting on me was Brad Lace, who

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<v Speaker 2>was the Little Purse, a little great actor who was

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<v Speaker 2>playing the lepreca He was always on the show. He

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<v Speaker 2>was dressed as a Leprechaun. Yeah, I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>we can, but you know, I mean it was who's

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna play it? Brad put on a leprecha on outfit.

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<v Speaker 2>So but I remember hearing you in the earpiece starting

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<v Speaker 2>to get you know, it's irritated. Perhaps you had a

0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:18.919
<v Speaker 2>lapel Mike, you put it up to your mouth and

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<v Speaker 2>you said, guess the fuck out of here, right now,

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<v Speaker 2>get us hold the fuck out of here.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We're done, man, We're done. Goal And I said, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I can hear everyone in the truck going,

0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:33.720
<v Speaker 2>all right, we gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, come on, get those cars out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started as Jeff, I turned Chef's head to

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<v Speaker 2>you and I said something like, oh is the late

0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.800
<v Speaker 2>night talk show was getting tired? Did he need a nab?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I remember. Started fucking dying laugh it's

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:57.040
<v Speaker 2>always the like your pirate to make me laugh is unmatched.

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 2>No one can make me laugh like you. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>brings me joy. By the way, it's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I wanted to say, was making you laugh was

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite things because what Jeff Peterson represented,

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<v Speaker 2>I think was your subconscious It was it was what

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 2>you were actually thinking about the show. And I could

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 2>say it because it wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was this, it was it was Yeah, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that puppets get away with stuff, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Also what happened is that I liked that Jeff was

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<v Speaker 1>emblematic of my creative failure on it. Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, because I wanted to put a sidekick in.

0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 1>It was a parody of sidekick because it was a

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.760
<v Speaker 1>robot that would do whatever I wanted, and then when

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>you gave him life, it became, to my mind still

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the best sidekick in the history of late night television.

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<v Speaker 1>Really nice hands done and completely negated my parody and

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<v Speaker 1>my kind of puffy, kind of whiny stomp against the

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<v Speaker 1>genre and created and did a bear which I love.

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<v Speaker 2>That I got it wrong. Well, I don't know if

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I ever you know, properly thanked you for letting me

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 2>be a part of that. I mean for asking me

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.439
<v Speaker 2>to be that character. I think, thank you for that. Well,

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 2>you welcome it. Offhand. One day you said, because you

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:19.359
<v Speaker 2>were doing the voice originally, very briefly, it was like

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 2>a dollar. You are the man and you and you

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.680
<v Speaker 2>know this about yourself. You notoriously got very tired of

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 2>all those machines and things. Sound machine, shocking, it's too much. Yeah,

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm shocking with We're done with this. You had a

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 2>sound machine that made like a bull here right now. Yes,

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.919
<v Speaker 2>find another way, find another way. That's my favorite phrase.

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 2>My two favorite phrases of yours are and I'll never

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>forget these. Hey, if you're earlier on time, if you're

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:54.400
<v Speaker 2>on time, you're late, And find another way another way.

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<v Speaker 1>That was when Jeff Arnold was rolling with us and

0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you had to sinus infection and Jeff.

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Ke going harm and I said to him, what the

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 2>what the hell you do it?

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 1>He said, I'm clearing my sinuses. Yeah, And I said,

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 1>find another way?

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<v Speaker 2>Right before a show. Maybe I don't know where. We

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 2>were Vancouver and we were in Canada. You were trying

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 2>to get just catch some quicksease, find another way man.

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 2>You said it from the other room.

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>What I Craig Ferguson will be hitting the road again

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>this summer and fall, bringing the Fancy Rascal Tour to

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>your region. For tickets and full list of tour dates,

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>go to my website, the Craig Ferguson Show dot com

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 1>slash tour.

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>Come see me live or don't.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is though that when Jeff began, right, So

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Jeff is is now you're operating the puppet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you're you had a screen right or were

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 2>you just looking at me? Both? So you're behind the bleachers,

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.159
<v Speaker 2>you've got a screen looking at it and stand. I

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 2>stood the whole time, and I was on one side

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 2>of the bleachers where the audience sat, you know, and

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.120
<v Speaker 2>you had how did you operate it? Like an iPad

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 2>or like it was remote controls? Actually a remote control unit.

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Grant showed me how to use the whole thing. I

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 2>could move the one arm, swivel, the head blank, the

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 2>eyes make them and by the way, it wasn't voice activated.

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 2>The mouth the only way the mouth moved. You'll enjoy this, ladies.

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.919
<v Speaker 2>If I press this little button there was a little switch. Yeah,

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and every time I talk, I had to do this.

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you still do that? I do it even now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so when you're talking, you move your fingers like

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>that when you're having sex with your girlfriend.

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I love what's going on in your pants? Can we

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 2>do in your pants tonight? Come on?

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god? Yeah, there was a you know. But

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>despite all that, I had this real chip on my show,

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 2>and it was a chip on my shoulder, but I

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 2>had this I wanted to come out from behind the wall.

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I was so focused, I think, on people knowing that

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 2>it was me back there. I understand that. You know.

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I felt very much that feeling ten years earlier when

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I was on the Drew carry Show. Oh yeah, I

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 1>felt exactly the same with your describement. I felt when

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I was doing mister Wick, right, and I totally understand

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>it totally related.

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 2>To even because all right, because you're mister Wick and

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 2>you're doing this British doing the English acting, and you're

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 2>someone else, and I'm being someone else and I'm not

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 2>getting to do what I think is funny. I have

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to do you, you know right, funny right?

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I felt, I know exactly what you mean, and I

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of anger about it as well.

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>It's and it's hard to put it because and.

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<v Speaker 1>The one hand, you're grateful for the work, right absolutely,

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're working in an environment where you get to

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>shine creative. Yeah, I mean I got to do that

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.360
<v Speaker 1>with Drew. You really going to do it with Jack?

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you created See that's why I think.

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I remember there were nights when I would talk to

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>the producers after the show and I would say, I

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>hope we're paying this guy and I goddamn genius, and

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>they would.

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Say, oh, yeah, we're paying it. I don't know if

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>they were paying. Yeah, but it's okay toward the Edinburg,

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, for a while. Yeah, he'll be fine. Yeah,

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.719
<v Speaker 2>it's all right, Craig. This every every night.

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 6>Every night, producers will walk by me and go, so listen,

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 6>Craig is in a terrible mood. The audience has been

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 6>waiting outside for four hours in the sun. So it's

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 6>all on. You have a good show.

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 2>And then right away.

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 5>But Craig, it's the Late Light Show brought to you

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 5>by Anison, And I'm like, oh god, you.

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Know it was really uh what is it? Baptism by fire? Yeah,

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:54.719
<v Speaker 2>because it did incorporate everything up to that point that

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I loved because I had been doing public Access TV

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 2>for almost ten years before that, and Jim Henson was

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 2>an idol of mine. Johnny Carson Show. I used to

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 2>do the Johnny Carson Show in my basement in Cleveland.

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I used to build I built the set out of

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 2>cardboard boxes. That's very right, exactly, except I had real guests.

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>My little cousins would be my guests, right. And I

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>put a bald skull cap on and I used Barbersol

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 2>white Barbasol shaving cream to make the hair. God d

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 2>any of these exists? Oh I have it all? Oh wow?

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I really quite like it's really I'd

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.719
<v Speaker 2>love to show you. My first guest is my cousin Bobby.

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 2>This is interesting, now you you didn't eat your lunch

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 2>yesterday and tell me about that, you know, And but

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>it incorporated everything. It was late my love of late

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>night TV and puppets. I mean, you couldn't ask for

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>a better job.

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.479
<v Speaker 1>Descript So the frustration must have been pretty intense then,

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>because you're getting to do all of the stuff creative.

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no one's as no one knows it's you

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 2>that And I think at the time when I was

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 2>doing the show, all through my time on the Late

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Late Show, I was involved in a series of relationships.

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I do remember that there was some scuttle about has

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Joshi he.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Broke up or they're back together? That's right? Yeah, yeah,

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah. And I got to be honest with you.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Here's the truth.

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>When I knew you were in emotional pain because I

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>knew you were having good for some breakouts, I would

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>say to Michael the producer, he's having a really hard

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>time with the girlfriend.

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's gonna be really fucking funny today. End.

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And oh my god, when you were angry and upset, yeah, hilarious,

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>right right, Oh.

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Shut up, man, what the house wrong with you? Know

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 2>what I was? I bid you adieu and all that stuff.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, my god. It used to make me laugh

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>so much. You're right, and that's why. And that's funny

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 2>because you did know and there were a lot of

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 2>times when Jeff was legitimately in a bad mood and

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 2>it was hilarious coming through this robot.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So you're channeling this this existential rage difficulty coming through

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the post.

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>But do you see how brilliant? Yeah? I mean, you

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 2>have to That's why I think.

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Is important for me, and I talked about that with

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, with people I work with now, and like,

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Joshie understands what he did. I don't

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>you really did something that is unique to my mind

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that you took. You were writing on the hoof, you

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>were like this all improvised that I don't think people

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>really understand it.

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the I think again, and it's I'm

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 2>so glad you're bringing this up because aside from me

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 2>not being known, like people didn't know it was me

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 2>back there, I think it was that it was it

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>was all improvised and people didn't know that. But what

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>I realized only recently, it took me a long time

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>to get to this place. What I realized is it

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't fucking matter if they know or not. No, we know,

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 2>we were there, we know, and it was a magic trick.

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was because because it was you said,

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 2>it was the purest form of improv that's what you

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 2>once called it, what we did. Because you could not

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>see me. It wasn't like we could play off each

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 2>other's facial cues. You couldn't see me at all. You

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>were working with this emotionless robot.

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>But I was working with you, right, and I totally

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>trusted you, like I knew whatever I threw you that

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it was going to be there was going to be something.

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 2>But that was big for you. I was talking to

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Mark Summers about this and I said it, I'm so

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 2>grateful that you took a chance on me, because that's

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.719
<v Speaker 2>a big deal. You have the Late Late Show with

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Craig Ferguson, you are hosting that show, and you decide

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 2>to bring in this other weird element. It was a gamble.

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I think we built that trust before Jeff, because we

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>would do this Larry King's sketch. We would sit across

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 2>the sash and by the way, Brad Lace played Arnold's

0:31:56.080 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>son who popped up from under the table. Jesus, oh God,

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>that we probably shouldn't call me. Do you talk to him?

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't talk to him. Brad Leace is a great actor.

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 2>He was he was game for all of that and

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a joy. Yeah, and he was great to work with you.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I just I just think it's funny that it was, Hey,

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>this is my son, Larry, Look here's my little boy,

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and then he pops up wearing the same exact suit

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I have on how you doing?

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 3>They were like.

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>That was weird because I became friends with Larry Carey.

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh you did.

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I knew that that impassination, which was vicious because

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't really do him.

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 2>But that's what's funny. Yeah, you did this out of

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 2>control brisket eating monster.

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the thing that I wonder sometimes, Like

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you do voices, you can do anybody, right, I mean,

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know you can do a lot.

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right.

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes when I've done like jokes about people or

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>impressions of people, and then I meet them and I'm

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like kind of because yeah, I've been kind of mean.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I try not to do that kind of thing anymore,

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>because you do run into people.

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you have you had? Because I remember you met

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Morgan Freeman again thanks to you. You insisted. He said,

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 2>do you want to meet the guy that did your voice? Well, yeah, sir,

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I would. And here and I'm behind the wall in

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 2>my little safe spot with the robot, you know, and

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 2>here comes Morgan Freeman making a bline for me. Yeah, well,

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>nice to meet you. That's a that's you're white. Oh shit,

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you're white. He's a very classy guy.

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Morgan absolutely, yeah, and very kind of smart, funny.

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Great interviews. Yeah, I had with him on there. We

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 2>had some of that though, that that was the kind

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>of I remember.

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>The one time I thought, the only time I thought

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we should have Jeff tonight is when

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<v Speaker 1>Archbishop Desmond.

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So well, well, I was like, I don't know, yeah,

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>it's appropriate.

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Well Desmond, yeah, I think it would have been a

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>in your pants You're right exactly.

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>He probably would have laught, he would have last been fine.

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think that it's kind of like when you

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>have somebody on that means a great deal to people.

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>This is one thing I learned about Late Night, not

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>just Desmond Tooto, who means a great deal with human race,

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>but even if it's just someone who's like on a

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>popular sitcom or one of the vampires for the Twilight

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Things or something like that. Like if you if you

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>joke with these people and don't treat them with respect,

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>befitting you know, Austrian Emperor of the seventeen hundreds.

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Their fans go fucking christ I do.

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like like you're somehow dis and I'm like,

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not Disney. They're just a fucking actor and we're

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:41.919
<v Speaker 1>dicking around and have them crank.

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 2>That wasn't right what you did. Yeah, it's like, you know,

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>you have to be more respectful. And it's a fucking

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>late night show.

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a talking there's a guy hiding behind the seats

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>making a skeleton talk.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>He's rowing the show. Yeah, I mean it's people got mad, remember, well,

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>that's why I got. That was the other reason I got.

0:34:57.960 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I took it very per Look, I didn't have this.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't equipped to know how to deal with it.

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't I'd never been on a show like this before. Yeah,

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>this was my first big gig and it was. It

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 2>was an odd little rockie very like nothing ever before.

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>And there was a petition going around, started by you know,

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>a group of very uh Brzellis fans, very excited people,

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 2>your fans, who wanted they did. Jeff gone, oh no,

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I do, Rember. Now, what happened was and that's fine.

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>That was it was. I was deeply hurt by it.

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Now I wouldn't give a shit, but at the time

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I took it very personally. That's that's unfortunate because they

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have done. But Michael Maatis said he tweeted. He

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>responded to the group and said, we're looking at it.

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>We'll take it under consideration. And for about two weeks, man,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I was sweating bullets, thinking my job's over. No, well, nobody, see,

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 2>nobody came to me.

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that I didn't understand for

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a long time as well, for a very long time.

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think if I ever really fully understood it

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>until the show was over.

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>If your name is on the show, you're.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 1>In charge, you're the boss.

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't know people would call you. They'd say,

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 2>how's your boss? Yeah, I go, he's not my boss,

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 2>he's my friend. Yeah, colleague, we're together. I don't I

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 2>never thought of you. I never thought of that either.

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I never thought like I wasn't involved in the hr

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>of you know, anything like that.

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 5>See.

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 2>I always got here after every show. I would have

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>a meeting, like in the control room with someone from standards,

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>and they would.

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 6>Say, okay, so when if Craig says vagina, you can't

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 6>say vagina.

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Back, that's right, it's vagina, tonny. So what started happening

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 2>was they would get in my head and it would

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 2>frustrate you because you would set it up and I would.

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I would knock it out, you would, you know. But

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of times when I would hold back.

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 2>And I remember one night you looked at Jeff me

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>and you were like, what's wrong with you? Man? It

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like it was real. It was like, what the

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 2>fuck are you doing? Where's the come on? I had

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 2>people in my head and it's just a late night,

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.879
<v Speaker 2>fucking talk show. Let's just get fun. Stupid, stupid show

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>late at night. That's all it was. Yeah, not a

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 2>big deal. But I think the other thing that aba

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>was we went to Comic Con. Took Jeff to Comic

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Con twice, to the CBS booth, and as you know,

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 2>that's where everybody goes first when they go to comic Con.

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 2>People want to get that sweet n cis marriage. It's

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 2>the bullbloodscare is going to be here. But they would

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>have Jeff set up and I'd be hidden away, puppeteering Jeff,

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 2>and people lined up all around to talk to talk

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 2>to Jeff. And I said to Michael Natis, I said,

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, do you think I could go out there

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 2>and meet everybody? No? No, no, I think you'd stay

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 2>in the booth. I said, Okay, but it's comic con,

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is yeah, people, I want to know

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>who's doing Okay, no problem, listen, I'm happy to do it,

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.359
<v Speaker 2>no worries. Great, and we went back a second year.

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Happened again, two years in a row, and that always

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>left a bad feeling, that left a bad taste in

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>my mouth? So how did you get how did you

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>get past it? Then? So the show ended. I couldn't

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 2>take anymore. You left.

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Well here I want to tell you why, because I

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think people really understand why I left. People still

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>say to me, why would you leave? Yeah, people still

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:30.919
<v Speaker 1>say to me, Craig, where's Jeff? And I will say,

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>fucking your mom, that's where Jeff. People say, where's Craig?

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I say, I don't say. Probably best if you know.

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>But the what happened is for me. I don't know

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>if it makes everybody crazy, who does it? But it

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 1>made me a little crazy, Like I would walk on

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you walk on a building every day.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Your picture is everywhere.

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>There's the pictures of me all around and on the

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 1>station ary there's my name is written on all the

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 1>envelopes and bits of paper, and my name, there's my name,

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>my name, my face, my face and one hundred and

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>fifty people and all to do in all days kissing

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>your ass, and it made me insane.

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could. I felt like I couldn't trust anyone.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I felt like I like, I just I was.

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I was so uncomfortable in my skin. I just kind

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>of paranoid, and I, like you, I was like, I gotta,

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't process this.

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do. And that's why I left.

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I didn't like leaving the money, but

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>there comes a point, right, you know, I.

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Have an appreciation I have. I have an appreciation now

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 2>for that. I see now like, oh wow, yeah, that

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 2>must have been really weird for you. It was weird

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 2>because you had a lot of cooks in the kitchen

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 2>as well, you know, being pointed in a lot of

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 2>different directions.

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Because there it's Hollywood, and there's a lot of people

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 1>around that have agenda yea and are looking to protect themselves, right,

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just the way it is.

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>And the network and the nature of TV as it

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 2>was then. You know, we were part of I think

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:00.439
<v Speaker 2>the Golden Age, the end of the gold An Age.

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.879
<v Speaker 2>I agree. Now it's much more controlled now.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>We actually I think the late night show that we

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>did existed in a very odd little normally because we

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>were in a time period that was protected by David Letterman,

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>who had absolutely zero interest in what we were doing.

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>It was funny because I saw Dave a couple of

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:21.919
<v Speaker 1>days ago, and you know, it came up and I said,

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't thank you enough for, you know, providing the opportunity.

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 2>He said, let's be honest, I had very little to do.

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, Like, yeah, you're right, but he created the

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>environment in which it could exist, yes, and that I

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think would happen now because the media places itself

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 1>with the mob, whether on Twitter or Instagram or you know,

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like that thing if you're not reverential to an

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>actor on Glee, then suddenly your house should be burned up, right,

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Like, what the fuck are you talking about? And also

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 2>we weren't trying to be offensive, right, we were just

0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 2>we were but we were free. We really were free. Yeah,

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:04.479
<v Speaker 2>for the most part. Yeah, except saying Vagina second time,

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.240
<v Speaker 2>right to do whatever. I mean, really, I think towards

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 2>the end, I don't know about you, but I was

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.919
<v Speaker 2>rolling in there. Would come in about a half hour

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 2>before showtime. Yeah, half hour was that was If I

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 2>was early, it was half hour. We'd roll up and

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>But it was still making me create the only thing

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>that was something I heard Kemmel say and I agree

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.919
<v Speaker 1>with it. If it was just the hour every day

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>of doing the show, yeah, I could do it for it, right,

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's not the hour.

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not. It's all the other stuff. Yeah. Yeah, but

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 2>it was the most fun that I've ever had. I mean,

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 2>it was an amazing crew, and it's a very bizarre

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:44.320
<v Speaker 2>job description, being the you know, talking robot sidekick, among

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 2>other things. I mean, there was also a lot of

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>other you know. I was making the phone ring on

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 2>your desk, that's right, the phone going off. It was

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 2>the serage from Oh how does the Serge? Yeah, and

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the flies and the celebrity flies, and then we had

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Alfredo Sauce and the band the Ins, and then the

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 2>great Dana de Lorenzo originally did the voice of Sandra

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the Rhino, and then she was bath. She was bed.

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 2>She's a fantastic actress, isn't she great. She's gone on

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 2>to do so many guy friends. Yeah, she did the

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Walking Dead? Is that what?

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 2>She did versus Evil with Bruce Campne n something with

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 2>dead people to worked with a dead skeleton scale. But

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I had to apologize to her. I mean, we're good

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 2>friends now, but when she became Beth the CBS executive,

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was sitting back there behind that wall,

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, wanting to come out from behind the wall,

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 2>and you see her getting see. I became that guy

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 2>for a while where I couldn't be happy for other

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.800
<v Speaker 2>people's success. I would see people like on Instagram, friends

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 2>of mine and colleagues that would book a gig or something,

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 2>and my first thought would be them, why did they

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 2>get that? I think that makes you a human being?

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. Yeah, I think that that happens sometimes,

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 2>but how did you get past it? I realized that

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 2>it's actually good for all of us? It actually I

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 2>actually somehow it inspired me to see people that I know.

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh shit, oh they did it. Oh

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>so we it's possible, Yeah, it's actually possible. A friend

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 2>of mine that I went to college with, I went

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to cal State Fullerton and I got my degree in

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:34.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, TV radio and film communications degree and uh,

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 2>this guy named Omeed Abtahi Ohmed I met in the

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and I was directing. It was for

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 2>my TV production course and it was for the final

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:51.399
<v Speaker 2>and I had written an episode of Doctor Who, Oh Wow,

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 2>and it was called anti Matters of the Heart and

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:59.959
<v Speaker 2>the doctor falls in love with his companion. Now Doctor

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Who hadn't come back yet, the resurgence hadn't happened yet.

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>It was only one TV movie, and I think the

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 2>show had ended in like eighty six with so Semester

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>McCoy right, it was done. It was dead in the water.

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 2>So I did Doctor Who and I cast this guy

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Ohmed as the doctor and he had just switched majors

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 2>and he thought he'd give acting a try, and he

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>was fucking great. It was really good. The whole production

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.720
<v Speaker 2>was a disaster because it was a beginning production course.

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Because I was already in public access for years, I

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:34.879
<v Speaker 2>was ahead of the game. So my instructor, my professor, said, hey,

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 2>for the parameters of this class, it was great. Don't

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 2>be hard on yourself. You're just trying to do stuff

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 2>that they can't pull off. Then I worked with Omit

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>again and did a zombie film on campus and made

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 2>omed my.

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Star right Head zombie Head Zombie did the Zombie. I'm

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 1>sorry to say track you just a little bit, but

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you know I love zombie. Yeah, did the zombies river

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>dance in your movie?

0:44:58.120 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 2>They should have.

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm still waying to see Zombie River Dance, Zombie River

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Dance movie.

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to come.

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 5>You remember the sensation from the nineties, Now they're back.

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 5>It's zombie river.

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Zombie river Dance. I'm telling you that's the way to

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 2>go because during the show. Yeah, so last week I'm

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:21.399
<v Speaker 2>watching The Mandalorian on Disney Plus. Right, I don't well,

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 2>don't worry about all but John Favreau doing an unbelievable job.

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I like John very much. He's really done. He's doing

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:33.360
<v Speaker 2>great things for Star Wars and the entire episode stars

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 2>oh Meade ob Tig and I could not have been

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 2>more fucking overjoyed. That's great. I tweeted it out to

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 2>him and I said, dude, you were great back then

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 2>with the zombie river Dance. But remember the Zombie river Dance.

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>His character's name is doctor Pershing. He's Persian, but doctor,

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and he's a He said to me, that's not the

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 2>first time I played a doctor. So he remembered that,

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and I said it was just nice to choose to

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 2>feel joy and to feel proud for someone. It's much

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 2>harder now. Was that a choice? Though? Were you in

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 2>such pain that you thought I have to change not

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 2>for that? No, this, this was.

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't mean that. I mean I'm talking about

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the period after oh yeah show. Oh I knew because

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I had a rough time after the show for a year.

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.359
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't angry. I was just rudderless. I just didn't

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 1>know where to go. Yeah, so I toured like crazy

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and I made a lot of television shows. Maybe I

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have made and stuff like that. But I didn't

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>know what to do. You know, I really didn't know

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 1>what to do. Things were changing.

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting to hear because I didn't know who who

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>am I?

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 4>What?

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 2>What am I? Now? Right? Like? Oh, you were a

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:49.280
<v Speaker 2>robot behind the But but you know how show business

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 2>they don't care what you did yesterday. No, what are

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 2>you fucking doing now? What are you doing now? What

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 2>are you doing right now? I don't know.

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:57.439
<v Speaker 1>It seemed to me that, like, because I never said

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a late night talk shows right for me,

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.919
<v Speaker 1>it was like a job, like being a realtor. Right,

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like I I, you know, it's nobody wants to

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>be a fucking realtor.

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then you go, well, you know, it's a

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:11.160
<v Speaker 2>decent job.

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And you make pretty good money and you get your

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 1>photograph on bus stop. Sure that's the best part. I

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.359
<v Speaker 1>think that, Okay, I'll do it. But there was a

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys and still there are a lot of

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 1>people people who watch.

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Late night TV, people who are you know, who are

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 2>doing late.

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Night TV, who think it's some kind of fucking high

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>r and they get mad if you don't right right.

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I felt uncomfortable with that whole thing too.

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I had to make my piece with the

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 2>voice stuff like impressions are fun, yeah, right, and I

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 2>can do them. And you pointed out once very wisely.

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:49.919
<v Speaker 2>I think it was before one show we were doing.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.880
<v Speaker 2>We were on tour doing stand up, and you said,

0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I was sort of like, I don't want to do

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 2>impressions anymore, and you said, well, you know, don't write

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 2>it off entirely, because it is a good sort of

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.239
<v Speaker 2>magic trick. It is a cool it's a great tool

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 2>to have in your great tool if you've got it.

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 2>But what I realized is for me, it's not who

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I am. It doesn't define who I am. It's probably

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:15.399
<v Speaker 2>like maybe number six of my things that I really

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 2>want to do. But what I made my peace with

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 2>and figured out is it's a great way to make

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 2>a living. There are certainly way worse things you could do.

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of fun, and it affords me the

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 2>time then to work on the things that I really love,

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:33.240
<v Speaker 2>like making films and writing.

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 7>I've been writing a lot, and I feel like because

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 7>the horror and the kind of but it's not like

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 7>horror in this sense that is unpleasant to look at horror.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>For me, You're kind of ethos has always to me

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>being sort of hammer horror, like hammer. Yeah, you know,

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the kind of schlock is not fair. It's more kind

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of like Artie Busty.

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:00.520
<v Speaker 2>In many ways, got the Hammer, the Hammer Lady, Yeah,

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Hammer Glamour, Carline Monroe, Caroline Monroe.

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god, geez, that was a thing for me.

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Those were great. Yeah, Hammer horror was I had seen

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 2>the Universal movies and I always love those.

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>The Cylindreth, those kind of things from the fifties and yeah, well.

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Well you know, the Class Dracula, wolf Man, all the

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Universal Yeah, early, wow, what's this and then but when

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I first saw Hammer, you know, because I grew in Cleveland,

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I grew up watching all the late night horror shows,

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 2>the late night monster movie show Viral was Cleveland. Viral

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 2>was syndicated, all right, so that was everywhere. We had

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I think like six or seven horror hosts at one time.

0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 2>We had Gulardi, who was Ernie Anderson because Drew Carrie

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 2>had a loved Gulardi was Ernie Anderson, father of Paul

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Thomas Anderson, the great director. Wow, Ernie Anderson.

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>That didn't keep the Glardy thing. Yeah, well, actually Skip

0:49:56.200 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Glaris a great He's in the Bibi River Dance. I think, oh,

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it's featuring skiptical Arnie.

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 2>How do you do? And everybody, Hey did he do?

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 5>Hi?

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Touch me? Lucky Charm and Brad Leace. I'm sorry if

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 2>you're out there. Yeah, yeah, But Gulardi was my my parents'

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 2>era in the sixties. And then Ernie Anderson left Cleveland,

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 2>as you do, and became the voice of ABC for

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 2>many many years. Tonight on an all New love Boat,

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 2>or you know a little man on.

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 5>America's Funniest Home Videos, dog who ship the bed, or

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:34.680
<v Speaker 5>baby who vomited on mummy.

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Right. So in fact, Paul Thomas Anderson's company I think

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 2>is Gulardi Films Limited or something there. It is there.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 2>It is talk. Yeah, yeah, dog doesn't ship. The dog

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>would have to work on kind of like a dog.

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Don't just shs anywhere. This is what people do. Yeah,

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 2>that's right, it's on the show. Craig could such an

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 2>unusual video if you had a video camera and that

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 2>dog was going to take a ship. You know, it

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.879
<v Speaker 2>starts shivering, the tails starts have a little dumpy thing.

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:12.320
<v Speaker 2>So what are you gonna do. You're gonna film it?

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Go get off the bed, Get off the bed if

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 2>you want money and prizes. I don't know, man, I

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 2>don't think people would. I would never like if you

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 2>saw a dog. Yeah, if you saw a dog about

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:22.640
<v Speaker 2>to take a ship.

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>If you do have a dog, no, you have a cat,

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.320
<v Speaker 1>two cats, two cats, and you got rats.

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't have rats anymore. Oh you gotta go no

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:37.919
<v Speaker 2>because I happened. Doesn't admit it. I admit it either

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the rats or mean yeah I do.

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:40.320
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 2>You know what happened is this is really a sad story.

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 2>But some kids used to sell them at Petco and uh,

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:49.319
<v Speaker 2>some kid got bit.

0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, rad baite fever.

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, horrible, that's a horrible My first question was

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 3>what was I kid doing those rats?

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:05.240
<v Speaker 2>No, that's all. That's an awful story. America is funny

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.400
<v Speaker 2>of some who will win the.

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 5>Baby who vomited on mommy or kid who got bit

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:14.320
<v Speaker 5>and died of rat bite fever.

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 2>That I think that could be how terrible Zombie River dies.

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 2>That's how it starts. That's how it starts.

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somebody gets bit by an Irish rat and the

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>rat sings.

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 2>It's a rat puppet, that's right.

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 6>Eve.

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm still keep who's that putting your finger in

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the cage? Why, I'm hungry, that's for sure. I see

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 2>in my head it's a big, giant cage that we

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 2>build on stage. It's a massive cage. And then this

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 2>guy dressed as a rat with makeup on right, and

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:44.800
<v Speaker 2>he's sitting alone in the corner and there's maybe moonlight

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:45.319
<v Speaker 2>behind him.

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh nice, Like then the David Boy, like the video

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 1>for that song where the he's in the mantle of

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you know the what I mean?

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Later later on, Yeah, yeah, was that Lazarus. Yeah, I

0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:00.759
<v Speaker 2>was weird. Man, Oh I love that man. Ballsy is

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:03.319
<v Speaker 2>that to do that album as You're dying? He knew

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 2>he was dying and it was about that too.

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was and he was like doing the

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 1>video with the coins on his eyes and all that.

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:09.240
<v Speaker 2>My favorite.

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Do you know he liked our show? Apparently I heard

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that really another source. Yeah, I used to watch the

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:19.439
<v Speaker 1>show because rememberly shit. I know, because remember I did

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 1>this thing when David Boy turned sixty. I did a

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>sketch where like I did my boy impression and I

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.800
<v Speaker 1>was wearing a jumper and yes, I'd been to the store.

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I just went for a newspaper making a shape. Yeah, smoothie.

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I did that, And apparently that got to him and

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 1>he started watching the show.

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh he It's interesting because I found about I found

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 2>him when I found his album Outside. He did an

0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 2>album in ninety five called Outside. Yeah, that's late. That's

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 2>where I came in. Wow, like same with a lot

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 2>like Depeche Mode. I came in like nineteen. That happened

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 2>to me with John Klee.

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I had for some reason during the eighties missed

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>all John Cale's work with Brian you know, and all

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. And then it came to it

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 1>very recently, and I'm looking at the back catalog. There's

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that album that John Kyle and Brian YOUO did a

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Wrong Way Up. That's one of the greatest.

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.360
<v Speaker 2>It's brilliant. It's unbelievably good.

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Love Brian, you know, yeah, yeah, oh wow, he's now

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 1>see Brian, you know, is a great example of Jeff Peterson.

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like way, it's like, you create this

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 1>whole thing and then you move on and some guy

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 1>goes out and goes, oh, I did it, but I

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't do it, you know, right. I'm glad that you

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>got to a place a piece with it because I never,

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and I swear I never underestimated what you were doing.

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:42.919
<v Speaker 1>I knew what was going on. I knew how good

0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you were, you were and are and remain. You know,

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I was never in any doubt or your talent or

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 1>your contribution.

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Never.

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wouldn't change the title of the show

0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to with Lately with Greig Version and Jeff Peters, although

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 1>how do we still been doing it? I would have

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:00.879
<v Speaker 1>done that. Wow, I would have done that.

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I could have done like five more years of that show.

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 2>But I wasn't in your position. We were hitting some

0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of stride. I think maybe we could have done more. Yeah,

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:11.400
<v Speaker 2>we could, but the world.

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Could not have taken five more years that the world changed,

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 1>that became very political, right, and everything got super sensitive,

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the stuff we were doing there

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>was no mean spirit in it, but people would have

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 1>read it a mean spirit in it at all, and

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:27.439
<v Speaker 1>it would have been, you know, it was that whole

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>people getting into fractions of you. You have to you know,

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 1>follow to a certain line ideologically, and I don't think.

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 2>We were really doing any of that.

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:41.879
<v Speaker 1>And however, that being said, I'm not ruling out at

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:45.760
<v Speaker 1>this point you and I ever putting that together again,

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:47.280
<v Speaker 1>what do you think I would love.

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:49.279
<v Speaker 2>It, dude. I think we should have worked with you.

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 2>It would be so great, man, bring in some way

0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:53.480
<v Speaker 2>in some form.

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:55.440
<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel, And I think that what we

0:55:55.440 --> 0:56:01.279
<v Speaker 1>should do is somehow go from this podcast to the

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>next stage, which is I've still got the robots.

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've got there, Jeffs. Where are they? Yeah? Why

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 2>don't you have one? Yeah? I'm like, I don't know, man,

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I've got both of them because there were two. There

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 2>was the one in the studio. Studio Jeffs and then

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 2>on the road Jeff traveling Jeff or Paris, Jeff Paris,

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Jeff because he was when we went to Paris. We

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:22.319
<v Speaker 2>took that one. Yeah, we did Paris. We did Scotland, Scotland. Yeah,

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 2>we New Orleans, New Orleans. Where that was New Orleans

0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 2>was that was that was where I was what happened.

0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 2>That was where I had a little bit too much

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 2>to drink one night. Yeah, and uh and I have

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 2>a photo of it that Tim Manson Ellie took our director. Yeah,

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:43.839
<v Speaker 2>this is a great director. I love him so much,

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>such a sweet guy. He's directed like you know, fifty

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 2>don want to do James Cordons. Ye stayed there. Oh yeah,

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 2>he's done. He's a very loyal guy as well. He's

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:56.879
<v Speaker 2>done more episodes. I think he really, yeah, he really,

0:56:57.080 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, he's there. He's making right for you. Well

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 2>he he took a picture of me at the bar

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:08.879
<v Speaker 2>talking to a young lady who seemed to take quite

0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 2>a bit of interest in me. Oh that's nice. I

0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize, uh she was. Things were, things were not

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 2>all they seem. Yeah, that could happened. Thankfully that didn't happen.

0:57:22.880 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 2>But but the next year didn't it didn't happen. So

0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I pass out in my hotel room after I've given

0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 2>her three hundred dollars, and the next day I have

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:38.600
<v Speaker 2>to do a voiceover session because they need some lines

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 2>of dialogue from Jeff, and I can't even get out

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 2>of bed. I've had a lot of absinthe. Wow, I

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 2>need no like a blackhair drunk. For years I had

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:53.480
<v Speaker 2>absce once I was like even you couldn't. Yeah, I

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 2>was on the whole Heroin Heroin.

0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should have done that Heroin's It's so much

0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:02.360
<v Speaker 1>cleaner out that was. That's like, that's like getting by

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the yeah, boom, you're done.

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I had a hard time getting through that next day.

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 2>But but I never it never got to the point

0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 2>where I never showed up to our show. I don't

0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 2>remember anything. I think on tour. We were on tour

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 2>towards the end, I was going through a horrible breakup,

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 2>so I probably wasn't funny at that point.

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean once you that's when you were we

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>were on the tour bus and you were being R

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>two D two Yes, the little kind of New York.

0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Right in that video. Yeah, I'm doing like a denial face,

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:36.560
<v Speaker 2>but a mark too D two and you're being Obi

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 2>wan Kenobi quiet, now yeah a too what So meanwhile

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing would you like a babe?

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>You guys will go, hey, Josh, come on man, stop

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 1>crying for a minute and do the sketch.

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 2>So you're looking at if you see that video, folks,

0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:56.680
<v Speaker 2>you're seeing a guy that's just dying.

0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's I think well of people are

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:02.000
<v Speaker 1>doing people who are not inside the world of comedy.

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>It's all that Tears of the Clowns. Yeah, but it's

0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a little more complicated. It is if you're in an agony.

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Like whenever I heard like one of the writers was like, oh,

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's getting a divorce, I'd be like, oh really,

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like my eyebrows go up, and I'd be like,

0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 1>let's look at what he's sitting in the show, because

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like, you know, writer, yeah, make him

0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 1>head right, yeah, because he's like, apparently it's it's a

0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:25.480
<v Speaker 1>very contentious as a custody battle.

0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, wow.

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Cold, yeah, it's immediately it's true. It's true, and I

0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 1>think that's quite interesting. Towards the end of Late or Show, Yeah,

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years, I think that's when I

0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>was the most uncomfortable doing it, and without a shadow

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 1>of it, doubt, that's when the shows were best.

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 2>And it sounds like you were in the same place. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, man,

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>that's so weird. I was. Yeah, I was doing crazy shit,

0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:57.000
<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah. My sort of cure all was I

0:59:57.000 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 2>started drinking a lot. Yeah, but I've tried that. Yeah,

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 2>you're familiar with that. Yeah, it doesn't work. My face,

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 2>It all went to my face. I like this round

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:11.480
<v Speaker 2>like a Charlie Brown, Wow, like real puffy. I think it's.

1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:13.400
<v Speaker 3>For me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't know. I wasn't thinking about it. It's

1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:18.920
<v Speaker 2>just like I'm fine, you know. It's that, it's that

1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:21.920
<v Speaker 2>feeling of this is my time now, this is what

1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 2>you do, this is I guess, this is what's done.

1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have a good fucking time. Yeah, and you

1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:29.120
<v Speaker 2>are having a good time. Not really, you having a

1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:32.600
<v Speaker 2>good time now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm still

1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:34.160
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what I'm gonna do.

1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 3>That's okay, it's am I, but not sixty years yeah, josh, Yeah,

1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:40.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm still trying to figure that ship, but not from

1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:42.680
<v Speaker 3>a place of the voice in my head doesn't say,

1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:44.680
<v Speaker 3>you better fucking figure it out right now.

1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like we'll see. Yeah, let's make something to make

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Like creating, just to create something is where I derive.

1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I think the most joy. Yeah, like I do. I

1:00:55.200 --> 1:00:58.240
<v Speaker 2>make music. Maybe no one will ever hear it, but

1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:01.120
<v Speaker 2>it's more it's for me. Yeah, it's still music, it's

1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:06.360
<v Speaker 2>still I enjoy it. I enjoy writing. I love Halloween.

1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:09.680
<v Speaker 2>My girlfriend Nilani, I've been with her for three years now, right,

1:01:10.120 --> 1:01:13.280
<v Speaker 2>That's really what turned me around was meeting her.

1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:15.160
<v Speaker 1>That was a big deal. Yeah, that's what saved me

1:01:15.200 --> 1:01:17.280
<v Speaker 1>as well was Megan. Oh yeah, late night. I was

1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 1>like if I if we hadn't been together, I had

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:22.480
<v Speaker 1>crashed in thing eighteen months.

1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Then yeah, you think so totally.

1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, i'd a fucking taken a tamper tantrum or something.

1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:30.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know, the thing was why we were doing

1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the show because you know, you know, Megan, I was

1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:34.240
<v Speaker 1>going home every night.

1:01:34.240 --> 1:01:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I had kids, and yeah.

1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:38.600
<v Speaker 1>It was like so there was that paranoid Hollywood craziness,

1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:41.200
<v Speaker 1>but then you know, yeah I was safe.

1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Yea, it was straight home. And of course the kids

1:01:43.360 --> 1:01:44.240
<v Speaker 2>were young, so it's like.

1:01:44.320 --> 1:01:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Daddy way Yeah, and there was no fucking no showbiz

1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:53.720
<v Speaker 1>in it was like the kids, Now, kids would ship.

1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:55.959
<v Speaker 2>In your back. Yeah that you want to get on tape?

1:01:56.000 --> 1:01:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I think I probably have that, but you

1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:02.880
<v Speaker 1>saved that for her wedding video when they're you know,

1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:07.080
<v Speaker 1>they're going, you know, the reception afterwards, the embarrassing remember

1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:07.600
<v Speaker 1>this part.

1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Remember this kid who shipped the bear? And now you're

1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:14.720
<v Speaker 2>a doctor. It's true, man, because I go home now.

1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:16.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, we have the place that I live in.

1:02:16.800 --> 1:02:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I've lived there for probably eleven years now. In the landlord.

1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Like the people that run it, they're such lovely people.

1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 2>It's this older couple and you know, I fix everything

1:02:26.160 --> 1:02:29.800
<v Speaker 2>around the house and it's just it's just And she's

1:02:30.000 --> 1:02:32.800
<v Speaker 2>made it a real home, you know she and and

1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:36.640
<v Speaker 2>also she's an exceptional artist. She's an animator, she's a

1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:39.160
<v Speaker 2>she's a director, she's a painter. That's perfect for you.

1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:41.360
<v Speaker 2>So weird. You have to be in that environment all

1:02:41.400 --> 1:02:44.320
<v Speaker 2>the time. You must have that, you know, something similar.

1:02:44.560 --> 1:02:47.800
<v Speaker 2>And so at Halloween every year, you know, I love Halloween,

1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I love horror movies and all that. But we do

1:02:50.200 --> 1:02:55.800
<v Speaker 2>a massive display in the front yard. And this year,

1:02:55.920 --> 1:02:59.720
<v Speaker 2>this last year, I bought an old tube TV I

1:02:59.760 --> 1:03:02.960
<v Speaker 2>found on a zenith, a nineteen eighty eight bake wood

1:03:03.000 --> 1:03:08.000
<v Speaker 2>panel six. A beast put it in the front window.

1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:12.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like bay window with Frankenstein's Monster. I have this

1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:16.960
<v Speaker 2>big animatronic Frankenstein Monster looks like he's holding the TV.

1:03:17.640 --> 1:03:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And all of October I would play old black and

1:03:20.320 --> 1:03:23.760
<v Speaker 2>white horror movies on this tube TV. Wow, and we

1:03:23.880 --> 1:03:27.360
<v Speaker 2>set up a big grave yard this year. It was

1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:31.200
<v Speaker 2>so amazing. There were kids that would come by and

1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:35.120
<v Speaker 2>tell me that they grew up watching that display. Oh

1:03:35.200 --> 1:03:38.600
<v Speaker 2>that's cool and that means the world. Yeah, that's really that.

1:03:39.320 --> 1:03:42.280
<v Speaker 2>To create something like that with someone you love is

1:03:42.320 --> 1:03:46.160
<v Speaker 2>such a wild experience. And to not ever not to

1:03:46.240 --> 1:03:48.080
<v Speaker 2>not feel like, well is this going to go wrong?

1:03:48.680 --> 1:03:50.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, because I used to always feel like, well,

1:03:50.280 --> 1:03:53.280
<v Speaker 2>this is going to go off the fucking rails any

1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:56.240
<v Speaker 2>minute now, the other shoe will drop. Sure I've had

1:03:56.320 --> 1:03:57.480
<v Speaker 2>good expression.

1:03:57.560 --> 1:04:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because if you already have one shoes, it's like

1:04:00.440 --> 1:04:02.720
<v Speaker 1>filming the dog shitting on the bed. Pick up the

1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you have your one shoe off, Yeah, once you off,

1:04:06.280 --> 1:04:10.720
<v Speaker 1>once you on, Craig, the one shoe is on, but

1:04:10.880 --> 1:04:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you're probably ready to take it. It's like when you're

1:04:13.160 --> 1:04:15.560
<v Speaker 1>lying on the couch. Yeah, and you're trying to wiggle

1:04:15.600 --> 1:04:16.959
<v Speaker 1>that last shoe off your toe.

1:04:17.200 --> 1:04:19.520
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean the last show? I many shoes?

1:04:19.600 --> 1:04:23.600
<v Speaker 1>You got maybe three, some of us three late I don't.

1:04:24.720 --> 1:04:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know you anymore, man, Yes, you do.

1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:32.080
<v Speaker 1>No remember me, I don't. We're out of time. That's it.

1:04:32.480 --> 1:04:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Therapy. Yeah, it was good. What for me? Good? That ship?

1:04:36.280 --> 1:04:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Short of well, let me just say thank you for

1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:42.080
<v Speaker 2>having me on the show. Well, thanks for thinking me man, really,

1:04:42.160 --> 1:04:44.800
<v Speaker 2>thanks for you know, thinking to me on the Late

1:04:44.840 --> 1:04:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Late Show. I mean that was one of the best

1:04:46.160 --> 1:04:48.280
<v Speaker 2>gigs I ever had in my life, working with you

1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and right, and thanks to the fans, because I want

1:04:51.960 --> 1:04:53.680
<v Speaker 2>to say one of the things that really does bring

1:04:53.680 --> 1:04:58.960
<v Speaker 2>me joy now is hearing all their stories of their

1:04:59.000 --> 1:05:01.480
<v Speaker 2>memories of watching the show. Some people watching the show

1:05:01.520 --> 1:05:03.320
<v Speaker 2>back when they were in junior high, high school.

1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Have you noticed the whole new generation if you watching

1:05:06.200 --> 1:05:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the show as well. That's the weirdest thing to me,

1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:09.600
<v Speaker 1>is like I do stand up now and there are

1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:11.920
<v Speaker 1>people there who can have been more than ten years

1:05:11.920 --> 1:05:14.720
<v Speaker 1>that's right when that thing was going out, and they're like,

1:05:14.760 --> 1:05:16.800
<v Speaker 1>where's Jaff and you know and they you know.

1:05:17.520 --> 1:05:21.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I guess it's during the lockdown during

1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:25.120
<v Speaker 2>the pandemic. Everybody found the show on YouTube, Oh is

1:05:25.160 --> 1:05:27.400
<v Speaker 2>that what it? And this whole new generation came in. Man,

1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:30.240
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy, it's really amazing. So thank you again. Man,

1:05:30.280 --> 1:05:31.920
<v Speaker 2>it's really good talking to you. Well, it's really good

1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:37.120
<v Speaker 2>to API. Let's yeah, well, all right, good

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<v Speaker 5>Night everybody that that's our show.