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And that's 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: a Bloomberg business flash. Tom and Mike Karen, thank you 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: very much. Well, it is a game on Hillary Clinton 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: versus Donald Trump. That's the campaign that we are going 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: to get. Are we back to politics? We're back to 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: we never left exactly? Did just get used to it? 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: As Julian z is Princeton University history professor who has 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: written quite a bit about politics. Um, he's one of 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: the pioneers the revival of American political history. Shall we say? Uh? 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: And UM, I want to start by asking you, professor, 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: not about Hillary or Donald but Barack. We saw a 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: poll this morning, we were just talking about it with 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Bret that the gallop Pole has him at a fifty 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,639 Speaker 1: approval rate, which I'm if I'm not mistaken, is higher 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: at this point in time than Uh, Ronald Reagan was 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: when he was leaving office for Bill Clinton when he 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: was leaving office. Uh, how are people how's history going 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: to rate Barack Obama? Well, there's two ways in which 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: we look back at president's First has to do with 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: approval ratings, and we look back to see did people 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: like them or dislike them when they left in the 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: On that front, right now he's doing pretty well. And 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: if so, this ends with approval ratings like the ones 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: we're seeing, I think we will argue that a lot 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: of the country liked what he had done. The second 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: measures obviously legislation and what he accomplishes with executive power. 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: And I think on both fronts he's been able to 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: accomplish a significant amount in a very contentious period early 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: in his administration a C. A. Dot Frank, the stimulus, 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: and in recent years a lot of progress on environmental 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: issues through executive power. So, look, he'll have detractors, he'll 55 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: have supporters, but I think he has a pretty substantial 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: record that will be able to discuss and debate over 57 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: the years. Does presidential popularity at this point in time 58 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: translate into um influence on the campaign trail? Is he 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: going to be able to push Hillary Clinton uh and 60 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: be a big help to her. Yeah. I think he 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: can use that if he's willing to spend that political 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: capital on her campaign, which it looks like he will be. Uh, 63 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: that can be very important. H. That's a huge source 64 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: of support for Hillary Clinton, especially when she's facing someone 65 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump. And I think if he goes out 66 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail not just to support her, but 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: actually to criticize and attack the Republican nominee. Uh, this 68 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: can be a big plus for her and over come 69 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: some of the doubts and lack of enthusiasm that many 70 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: people have with it. Julian Zelazer, Princeton University. Uh, the 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: Forbes Malcolm Forbes professor at Princeton. You are definitive and 72 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: linking history to culture in America. It's like talking to 73 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: James McGregor, Burns or Gordon Wood up at Brown. You know, 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: there's like ten of you guys that actually really think 75 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: about the bigger picture. I want to bring this election 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: out to a graduate of the California Institute of Technology 77 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: named Walter Hartwell White, Sr. Walt White is a chemist 78 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: and he's had a bad time and he's one of 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: our great anti heroes. Isn't he explain how you pull 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Clinton Trump over to Breaking Bead? Yeah? I mean I 81 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: wrote a piece that looked at popular culture and looked 82 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: at what we've seen on television and even in movies, 83 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: a fascination with characters who we don't necessarily like. They're 84 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: often villains, they're often murderers, they often act really poorly 85 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: towards people. Okay, So based on the based on the 86 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: mail we have that described Secretary Clinton in Mr Trump? Right? Uh? 87 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: And you know you look at TV from Breaking Bad 88 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: to the Show House to House of Cards, where we 89 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: don't necessarily root for the person who you think we would. 90 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: And I think that explains certainly some of the fascination 91 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump and certainly some of the support that 92 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: he has. Voters are not necessarily looking for people they 93 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: like personally, and in Bob Dole is as a legitimate 94 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: American hero. Even if you didn't vote for Bob Dole, 95 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: you rooted for Bob Dole. You wanted Bob Dole to 96 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: be Bob Dole those days. If they're gone, where will 97 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: we be the third week of October with our anti heroes? 98 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: Are we really going to elect an anti hero. Well, 99 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: I think right now we certainly could. I don't know 100 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: how Hillary Clinton her The perception of her will unfold 101 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: as the campaign unfold, so she might be the hero 102 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: by the end of this. But but I think we 103 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: have a really cynical culture right now. They don't expect 104 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: much from politicians. They're angry, and those are the conditions 105 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: where a quote unquote anti hero could end up as 106 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: president very quickly. Just a minute, look and we gotta 107 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: get you back. This is fascinating for those of us 108 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: who love history. But does this campaign remind you of 109 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: any earlier presidential campaigns? Not exactly. It's bits and pieces. 110 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: So there's part of it that reminds me of nineteen 111 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of Richard Nixon, a little bit of 112 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: George Wallace in Donald Trump. That's I think, uh, the 113 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: most apt comparison um. And I think there's elements of 114 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: that anger from sixty eight that are playing out for 115 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: different reasons today. We are thrilled to have you on 116 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: from Wilbur Mills to Jimmy Carter looking at modern politically history. 117 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Julian Zelizer of Princeton University, Mike, while we were talking, 118 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: we have a new low in the German tenure zero 119 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: point one point point. I can't even get the decimals right, folks, 120 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: zero point zero one eight, it's two. This is like 121 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: a telethon. Operators are standing by, really call in by bonds, 122 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: help us get to zero. So, for those of you 123 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: that are not wired into global finance, what's the soul? 124 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: What sol What is simple? The removable force of Europe 125 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: is going to go to a negative yield, the benchmark benchmark, 126 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: benchmark German tenure yield migrating Stay with us our telethon 127 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Surveillance gotting down to the opening bell. 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