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Speaker 2: All right, Rory, we are back today.

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Speaker 3: We are joined by somebody who we've had some conversations

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Speaker 3: about throughout the year, throughout the years of one of

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Speaker 3: the biggest troublemakers in hip hop.

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Speaker 4: That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's pretending to sit this way so

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Speaker 1: he doesn't look like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't look like he doesn't want to look

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Speaker 3: like a troublemaker. But no, this is a very talented

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Speaker 3: guy that we've been wanting to have a conversation with.

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Speaker 3: So he he stopped by today to give us some

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Speaker 3: of his time, and we are thankful for that. We

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Speaker 3: are joined by singer, songwriter, rapper, actor, stand up guy,

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Speaker 3: one of the one of the younger guys that I

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Speaker 3: really like in the industry and I funk with, so

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Speaker 3: I'm happy he's here today.

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Speaker 1: Joey Badass, You put New York on his fucking back, Like.

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Speaker 4: This is the first time anybody ever led with singer.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, American Badass. You was singing a lot on.

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Speaker 4: That singing on this ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know, you know you sing You ain't singing

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Speaker 3: what you're singing?

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Speaker 2: You know singing? Why do you get into the singing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? How you feeling, man, Yeah, that would be good.

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Speaker 4: I feel good, man, feel great. I was like, life

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Speaker 4: is beautiful, man, Like just like you know, not to

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Speaker 4: saund all cliche and ship, but I feel good. I

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Speaker 4: really feel good about things, you know, Grateful to get

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Speaker 4: the project out and you know what I'm saying, get

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Speaker 4: that off and just you know, keep it pushing, like

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Speaker 4: you know, I feel like this year has been great

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Speaker 4: for me. So yeah, man, she has been very busy

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Speaker 4: for you. I'm busy for you.

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Speaker 3: Man, You've been You've been the topic of discussion. It

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Speaker 3: seemed like since the year started, you've had a lot

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Speaker 3: of We've spoken about you a lot.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we got entered into the beef because

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Speaker 1: we entered the chat. I know, I don't expect anyone

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Speaker 1: to watch our pod, but the way we rode for

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Speaker 1: you during this entire beef, we we allegedly by proxy,

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Speaker 1: got into some fake beef because of this shit we

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Speaker 1: It was people saying they knew our location, and they

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Speaker 1: could have read like I'm like, hey, I fuck with

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Speaker 1: Joey like that, but I was like.

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Speaker 3: If.

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Speaker 2: You ain't going down for Joey, I've died for New York.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if I'm dying for Jilly.

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Speaker 3: But you've had, you've had, You've had, you voiced obviously

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Speaker 3: your opinion on a lot of the things. Being one

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Speaker 3: of the guys that is from Brooklyn, from the city

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Speaker 3: for real, you've seen the change in the sound and

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Speaker 3: the landscape of rap hip hop. How do you feel

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Speaker 3: about the current though, the current state of New York,

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Speaker 3: particular New York rap hip hop culture, Like, what do

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Speaker 3: you when you sit back and just look at it,

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Speaker 3: how do you feel, because it's changed a lot since

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Speaker 3: you were like young and really outside in the streets

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think New York is an interesting place,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We're the mecca of hip

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Speaker 4: hop for sure, you know, so we always going to

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Speaker 4: have that thing. It's uh, it's I expectation, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I think that's a good

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Speaker 4: thing more than it is like a you know, a

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Speaker 4: negative thing. But you know, as far as the current,

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Speaker 4: the current state of what's going on right now, I

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Speaker 4: think there's interesting things happening, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I think you got like you know, you look at

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Speaker 4: the slizzies that cash Cobain and them, you know, holding

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Speaker 4: it down for like what they kind of coin is

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Speaker 4: their own thing with sexy drill. And then you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, you got like chef and sleepy and

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Speaker 4: shit like that. You know, hey boogie, Yeah, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Shout shout the boogie. That's my man. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, shit, you got me doing what I do. So,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think New York is is an interesting

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Speaker 4: region is like the one that's like on fire or

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Speaker 4: like dominating or you know what I'm saying, however you

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, how tired are we of even

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've been having that combo with literally

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Speaker 4: Honestly I do too.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's just how close we hold our cities,

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Speaker 1: music and legacy to our hearts that even though I'm

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Speaker 2: It's always something I want to bring up everybody.

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Speaker 4: It's like the New York Knicks man, It's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: so many years have heartbreak every time we get this,

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, like you know what I'm saying. We about it.

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Speaker 4: We're passionate about it. So yeah, you know, we we're

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Speaker 3: Is it anything you would you would want to see

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Speaker 3: change though? About the current energy in like New York?

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Speaker 3: The New York rap scene is anything you would want

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Speaker 3: to see change though? Like we need to get rid

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Speaker 4: You said you called me a trouble. You're trying to

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Speaker 4: because you really you because now you're.

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Speaker 3: You're still very young, but just you're considered one of

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Speaker 3: the elder statesmen though from the city, and a lot

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Speaker 2: So you have a different scope on it.

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Speaker 3: You've pivoted, you're now in film and things like that,

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Speaker 3: but you still are tapped in and you know what's

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Speaker 3: like I don't know, if you know the city need

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Speaker 4: The thing is right, like, I don't think there's nothing

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Speaker 4: look at it, you know, you got artists like Mike

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Speaker 4: Love holding it down in his own arena, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, in his own pocket, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I think it's just more about because

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Speaker 4: you know, when it comes to like radio still plays

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Speaker 4: It's just not if everybody's kind of in their own lane.

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Speaker 4: So if there was something that I'd like to see,

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Speaker 4: like as a change, maybe it would be just more

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like, I know there's a

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Speaker 4: enough enough being let go flex whatever, drama shit. But

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Speaker 4: paying more attention to like, you know, what's just going

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Speaker 4: on Internet or cloud or whatever. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean outside of even just New York politics

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Speaker 2: I mean, you came out twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: It was nineteen ninety nine, which was coming towards the

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Speaker 4: Streaming? Bro Streaming I think is the biggest change from

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Speaker 4: Like when I came out, Motherfucker was was like on

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Speaker 1: That made me sound like you were fifteen the world starts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like two dope boys and shit like that, you

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Speaker 4: that's why I was the blog era, because the you know,

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Speaker 4: what was developing. Now it's like I don't even know,

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Speaker 4: Like shit just become the trend now and then you know,

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Speaker 4: that's how people kind of find out about it. But

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Speaker 4: like back then, I think it was more of a

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Speaker 2: How did you navigate that though?

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Speaker 1: Because coming off the blog era where you were young

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Speaker 4: What's funny is, you know I just really roll with

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Speaker 4: what's the What's what's what's really the difference? Like I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 4: then you know, I've I was selling tickets, you know

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Speaker 4: like that was like there was using me, they was

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Speaker 4: using like Drake, they was using like a few other people,

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Speaker 4: like but I don't get it though, Like you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, I just don't think that like I

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Speaker 3: What are some of the things that because obviously you

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Speaker 3: got you know, life is handed you a lot of

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Speaker 4: And then it just you know, one three very prepared.

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Speaker 4: I will say that I wasn't. I honestly wasn't prepared.

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Speaker 4: To rap it. Sorry sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all say

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Speaker 4: Know, my response to it was like, Yo, I'm just

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Speaker 4: I ain't mean it like that, Like I felt secure

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Did Yeah, yeah, you know

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Speaker 4: But but even that even that though, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: I won't.

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Speaker 2: Delete later Joey won't.

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Speaker 4: I won't. You know what I'm saying, Like it's commentary,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, you know, I did think about that

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Speaker 3: Not disrespectful though it was the It was the epitome

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Speaker 4: Right to me, what you were doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm a little older, so I know what

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Speaker 3: Never thought it was gonna get serious or it was

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Speaker 1: It's rapping, yeah, And I mean, I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: I don't think like daylight.

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Speaker 4: That was fueling it. Daylight wasn't I think anyone like that.

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Speaker 4: Don't have the conversation since the beginning. You did.

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Speaker 1: You didn't mention in the last record, but I don't

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Speaker 1: the Red bullshit, because ship, what's the Daylight shit? He

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Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite joints.

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Speaker 4: It came out before like like Backpack or some ship

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he kind of predicted what Joey's first did.

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Speaker 2: So that did happen? I played that for him? Or

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Speaker 2: how did that even go about?

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Speaker 4: So you know, when we did the Red Bull joint,

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Speaker 4: like a track because the guys was you know, everybody

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because everybody's connected, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: So like it don't gotta be Ab director could have

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Speaker 4: Ab is also a TDE artist, so top and you know,

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Speaker 4: So I knew I knew that that was going to happen.

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Speaker 4: know when this shit drop, you know, it dropped, It

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Speaker 1: Niggas prepared, and again, I'm not here to have you

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I will go back to some of the stuff.

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Speaker 1: We talked about because we was on your side the

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Speaker 1: entire time. But before Daylight got involved, we sat here

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Speaker 1: was we proving fucking wrong.

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Speaker 4: Yea, I don't think that. I don't.

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Speaker 1: You were a little surprised that Daylight didn't come the

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that he didn't. You know, Paul's come

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Speaker 4: different stage for Daylight battles. Yeah, but we're not on

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Speaker 4: the stage, okay, So it's not the performative he's you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, But I think

435
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 4: that's the first of his kind of a battle that

436
00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 4: Daylight has had, you know what I'm saying. As sure

437
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 4: in public guy trading tracks, you know what I'm saying,

438
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 4: Usually he's on the stage, and I think, you know this,

439
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 4: this whole thing would have went down different if it

440
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 4: was like on the stage like that. So I'm like,

441
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 4: you know, that was one thing that I knew, like, Okay, cool,

442
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 4: that's that's that's That's definitely one thing to my advantage, right,

443
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 4: And I even say it, I'm like, yo, no matter

444
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 4: what stage they put you on, you still ask that,

445
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying thinking with that whole thing.

446
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 4: But then two, I feel like one thing that gave me,

447
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 4: uh confident edge over the whole situation was when he

448
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 4: did the backpack thing, because I'm like, you shouldn't have

449
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 4: to do that, you know what I'm saying, So that

450
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 4: that that made me feel like, Okay, this is this

451
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 4: is like I could do this ship. You know what

452
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying, This is beatable, you know what I'm saying,

453
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: because now you're leaning into optics and ship like that,

454
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 4: which I'm like, you the great you know what I'm saying.

455
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: You don't need to do that. You don't need to

456
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: do that, you're leaning on Oh I knew this.

457
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: Before, right, you know what I'm saying. So that that

458
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 4: kind of gave me a little bit of I feel

459
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 4: like power and energy in the situation where it's just

460
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 4: like I was able to approach it like a little

461
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 4: bit differently. But yeah, and I shot the Day though. Man,

462
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: I really do love Day. That's my man, And like,

463
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, it was, it was.

464
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: Is one of the greatest.

465
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 3: I just want to know what he about. I haven't

466
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: heard anything from him. Is he posted on social media

467
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 3: like we haven't seen Day?

468
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 4: I heard he dropping he dropping the joint Son album album.

469
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: Yeah again, it's surf in Light that I think are

470
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: the two battle rappers that like make good they know

471
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: how to make good music.

472
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: So that's that's where I was a little nervous. But

473
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: what was that call to Loox? Like, oh, like, how

474
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: did that whole that whole thing come together with load

475
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: of Lux?

476
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 4: We take a little and I know was laughing, like

477
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 4: I know when he got the call, he started, if I.

478
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: Remember correctly, on YouTube, it didn't save feature and loaded love. No,

479
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: I did, no, because I remember being in my life,

480
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: I'm posted the most statue of liberty emojis I've ever

481
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: posted in my fucking life.

482
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: Once I heard Lux come on that second verse.

483
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, you know, so me and Lex go

484
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: way back, you know what I'm saying. Like I connected

485
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 4: with Lux like probably ten years ago, eight years ago,

486
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: Like I did the feature for him like back in

487
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 4: the day, you know, so we always just had that rapport,

488
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 4: yeah or whatever. And you know, I actually had a

489
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 4: conversation with him early on in the year, like you know,

490
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 4: when the ship first started kicking off and ship like that,

491
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 4: you know, we we we was you know, laughing, joking

492
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 4: and you know, talking about the idea of possibly like

493
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 4: if I was going to engage like you know, but

494
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 4: it was it was really just kind of like poking

495
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 4: fun out of the whole situation, like it wasn't nothing serious.

496
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 4: I ain't like really be like yo, boom boom. But

497
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 4: then when the when the when the red bullshit happened,

498
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, cool, So I'm my opponents, right, I

499
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: heard this shit for two months. I got my move ready,

500
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: and you know, right the next day, you know, Rayvaughn dropped,

501
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 4: and then I'm like, okay, cool. I went to the

502
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 4: studio that night and I made the finals. You know

503
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, boom. But then after that, I'm like, Okay,

504
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 4: what is this nigga like gonna do? You know what

505
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm like, I have no idea what this

506
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 4: motherfucker's gonna do. So I'm waiting, you know what I'm saying, Like,

507
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: you know, I'm keeping the pin high just in case

508
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: because I don't know when this niggas going to drop.

509
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: And you start tweeting ship and all that, and I'm like,

510
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 4: all right, they said, now it was Monday, you know,

511
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 4: so you dropped the joint And I'm like, oh, I

512
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: bet you know what I'm saying. You know what it

513
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 4: felt like, I felt like, okay.

514
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: Cool.

515
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 4: It was almost like when you get in the ring

516
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: with your opponent and you feel that first punch, You're like, oh,

517
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 4: that's it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, oh okay.

518
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 4: So then yeah, I went to studio cool looks. I said, y'all, yeah,

519
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: it's time. It's time. Let's go ahead and finish them.

520
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 4: It's time. It's time. Yo, I'm about to see you.

521
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: He sent it back lightning quick. I ain't going on. Yeah,

522
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 4: shout out the Luxe.

523
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: No lux is he's he's a he's watched some lux

524
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: freestyles staff to this day.

525
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: Of course, it's it's tough to be objective. But where

526
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: do you Where do you rank my town? And if

527
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: Complex were to put out every list that they used

528
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: to put out of the top.

529
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: Fifty disc records of all, where my town lands.

530
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 4: To me?

531
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: I think it's a little higher.

532
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: Of course, the dust has to settle, and it just happened,

533
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: But I think when time.

534
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: Passes, I think that my town.

535
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: Record might be up there in one of the greatest

536
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: battle records.

537
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Yeah, if you look.

538
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: At everything that was happening with that entire week, how

539
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: crazy that ship was, that was kind of the stamp

540
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: that and of course I have a New York bias.

541
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: But after that, I was like, this is over.

542
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: Man.

543
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't care too much after this,

544
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: this has done. That we spoke about it, Yeah, this

545
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: is done.

546
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 3: I'm obviously familiar with your pin and your work, but

547
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: you definitely outperformed my expectations. Like I knew what you

548
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: were capable of, but I was just thinking, like this

549
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: nigga Joey getting TV money, you know, start going that rout.

550
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: It's like he really you know that?

551
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 4: You know what, I'll tell y'all something right, Like initially

552
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: that was my approach, like when Day and Ray first

553
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: started like jabbing and shit like that, you know, when

554
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 4: I was doing the sort and that. Sorry, the part

555
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 4: of me is and shit like that. I'm like in

556
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 4: my head, I'm like, I mean, I'm not I to

557
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 4: engage for real, you know what I'm saying, because I'm

558
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: like it don't it don't. I didn't see the win

559
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 4: for me. But then I started getting hip to the

560
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: fact that people like, you know, what I learned over

561
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 4: time is like every five years, it's a bunch of

562
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 4: new hip ho fans. Oh yeah, that coming to the

563
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 4: pitch to get on that Twitter, get on the internet,

564
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: have a bunch of opinions, think pieces, podcasts, all of

565
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 4: that ship. So in that moment, he.

566
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: Said, what are we catching a stray?

567
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 4: No, no, job, job, I ain't catching.

568
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: The straight compliment follow people who are actually talking about

569
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: rap music for age, you know what I'm saying.

570
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 4: But so pretty much what I realized, I'm like, oh,

571
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: you know what, there's a lot of people who are

572
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: in discovery mode about me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

573
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: Even though I have my accomplishments and my success, there's

574
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 4: still a lot of people who are not familiar with

575
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety nine Joey before the Money on American. So

576
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: at that point when we clicked up for the Red

577
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 4: Bull joint, and you know, because I because you know,

578
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: Ab like gave me like a sample of his verse

579
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 4: and then when I peeped that he was doing the

580
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: he mentioned the daylight in ratio. I was like, you

581
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 4: know what, this is a good opportunity. Now I saw

582
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: it as like I saw a win in it for me,

583
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: Like this is a good moment for me to engage

584
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: because I can remind people, not even remind I could

585
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 4: fucking hit people to what this pen do? You know

586
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So that's when I that's when I

587
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 4: jumped in. But also like you know, the win for

588
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: me too, you know, I'm definitely was cognizant of it.

589
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: Was it being like Joey versus the field, you know

590
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like that that was that was a

591
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: better battle for me, you know what I'm saying, rather

592
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 4: than me versus this person alone or me versus that

593
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: person alone. It was it was more worth it for

594
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: me to be like going up against a bunch of people,

595
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So at that point, I'm like, yeah,

596
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: you know what, Yeah, it's game time, like like like

597
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: let's get it. Like I see, I see the win,

598
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: I see the opportunity, and I'm taking it.

599
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: In the midst of that, you don't have to answer,

600
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: just just blink twice if Top Dog paid you to

601
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: do all that.

602
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: Top Dogs however, we did have We did have like fairly,

603
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: we did have like t the East. Yeah, we did

604
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: have some some dialogue, like you know what I'm saying,

605
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: just like you know, joking and you know, a lot

606
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: of joking and laughing and ship ship I ain't on

607
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: my top. He had. He bought me some some seats,

608
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: some tickets one night to the nickgame while that ship

609
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: was going on. He was like, Yo, you gotta be

610
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: out there, man, Like you know what I'm saying, you know.

611
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: So that was love. But we definitely did have a

612
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: few conversations, you know, talk about the whole TD East

613
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: thing and like, you know how he thought that shit

614
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: was clever. He's like, Yo, nigga, I've been laughing about

615
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 4: that ship since last night and ship like that. I'm like, yo,

616
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: she kind of got a ring to it. We should

617
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 4: have a conversation, you know what I mean. So we

618
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: definitely spoke about that and the possibility of sitting down.

619
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: And so he didn't have this whole elaborate scheme set

620
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: up to get his artists.

621
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: Absolutely not, nah, you know what I mean, every this

622
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: whole thing, Like nobody knew I was gonna come with

623
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: the rulers back. What you said, she.

624
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: Ain't say nothing.

625
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 4: Nobody didn't work. She ain't work anyway, Listen, Nobody knew

626
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 4: that I was gonna come with the rulers back. And

627
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: after the Rulers back, I didn't know what was gonna transpire.

628
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: Like when I tell you this shit was rolling with

629
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 4: the punches. It was rolling with the fucking punches. At

630
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: the only moments of like preparation I had was once

631
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: I did that rebel freestyle and knew that it was

632
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: sitting with that side for two months. At that point,

633
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, cool, I smelled something. Now I could

634
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: see what's coming, But before that, I couldn't see nothing,

635
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like it was just surprised

636
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: every day, you know what I'm saying.

637
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:48,240
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Speaker 1: Well, then let me ask you this, having that side

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Speaker 1: of the brain, of the competitive side of what was

673
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: going on and having to be reactive in a timely manner,

674
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: at what point did you go all right, and now

675
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: I got to focus on my album and how do

676
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: I capitalize off everything that may.

677
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: Just happen to get to lonely at the top.

678
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: So when I'm made Rula's back right like that last

679
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: week of twenty twenty four, So you know, I was

680
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: I've been working on this album, not the one that

681
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: I just put out. I've been working on a album

682
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: for the last three years. You know what I'm saying.

683
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 4: It's a conceptual album, and it required me to go

684
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: in a specific direction with my subject ratter. So the

685
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: last week of twenty twenty four, I got really activated

686
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: on some y'all just kind of on the rap right now. Yeah,

687
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: So I kind of like got inspired to make this

688
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: other project that wasn't conceptual. That gave me the outlet

689
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: to kind of like put out a bunch of other

690
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: music that I wanted to put out before putting out

691
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: this conceptual album, you know what I'm saying. So that's

692
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: kind of what Ruler's Back was. In the spirit of

693
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: it was in the spirit of me making this new project. Yeah,

694
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: at the time, I didn't know what it was. I

695
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: didn't have a name for it. But I'm just like,

696
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: it's more kind of just diverse, you know what I'm saying.

697
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 4: It's no, it's not confined to a subject or anything.

698
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: It just kind of allows me to get some shit

699
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: off that I want to get off. And you know,

700
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: Ruler's Back what came from that was a bunch of

701
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 4: back and forth and mist of that sorry now sorry

702
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: was created, right, you know what I'm saying, because it

703
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: was kind of my way of like acknowledging what was

704
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: going on, but still not really responding directly to it.

705
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: And then, you know, then I put out the three

706
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 4: song EPED and I'm like, shit, did thatth scratch the ish?

707
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, I still kind of want to put out

708
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: some new shit. And then the fucking battle battle started,

709
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And that happened. We put

710
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: out you know, free records there and I'm like, Okay,

711
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: now I feel like I have to feed this new

712
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 4: listener this new eye and you know what I'm saying,

713
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: I want to now use this opportunity to get out

714
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: some new music, you know what I'm saying. And that's

715
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 4: what Lonely at the Top became, was, uh, you know,

716
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 4: this opportunity for me to kind of put together this

717
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: compilation of records that I just felt like, you know,

718
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: because I'm never this is the quickest project I've ever made.

719
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: And I say that in a very positive way. For me,

720
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: that feels really good because when I look at the

721
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: course of my career, I took five years between the

722
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: second album and the third album, and it between Lonely

723
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 4: at the Top in two thousand was another three years.

724
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 4: That's eight years of like inactivity, you know what I'm saying.

725
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 4: That's eight years musically, right right, musically but that but

726
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: to me, I'm like, that's eight years where you know,

727
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 4: I think for a long time I've been fearful of

728
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: being able to drop a project like lo Only at

729
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: the Top, Yeah, because I feel like, you know, because

730
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: I understand that the expectations for me is super high.

731
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, motherfuckers want me to put

732
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: together a body of work and I want that too,

733
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: but sometimes not. Sometimes like for a long time, I

734
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 4: create a lot of music that is outside of the

735
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: realm of like something that is like so deeply conceptual,

736
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: and I fall in love with that music too, but

737
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: I feel like I never find the outlets to put

738
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: it out, to get it out, you know what I'm saying.

739
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: So that's what Lonely at the Top was, like you

740
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: know it was. It was for me almost like this

741
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: this fearless move artistically where it's just like, yo, this

742
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 4: is what I want to do, you know what I'm saying,

743
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 4: Like fuck with people, I mean think I should do

744
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 4: right now? May one? For me, this this is what

745
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: I want to yode, This is what I want to

746
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: put out. You know what I'm saying. This is my

747
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: expression at the time, because usually by the time I

748
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: put out a project, these songs are two three years old,

749
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: three years, four years old. Like you know what I'm saying,

750
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 4: little bit on.

751
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes I got to go back in change the line

752
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: or some shit who want to be represented on how

753
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: you felt three years ago?

754
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's like it no longer resonated,

755
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So you know I feel

756
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 4: like this really allowed me, Like I've always been a

757
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: quality over quantity artist and you know, not to say

758
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: that I feel that I compromised the quality on this

759
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: project at all. But this to me was more about, like, Yo,

760
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 4: I want to get this music out, you know what

761
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I'm going to do that, you know

762
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 4: what I mean? Like I of these songs and no,

763
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 4: like it's not deep, you know what I'm saying. It's

764
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: like it's intentionally not deep, Like I didn't put together

765
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: this crazy concept. No, this is just songs that I

766
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: really fuck with right now you don't want to put

767
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: out because it's in the key of my life at

768
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: the moment, you know what I'm saying.

769
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think even you know, we've had debates about

770
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: the Tyler project that just came out, but he was

771
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: also on that side too, of like I've constantly felt

772
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: like I have to sit and come up with a

773
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: whole new image, whole every single album has to be

774
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: this whole moment in time, right, not.

775
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: Like all these records.

776
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: I have the ability at this point and where my

777
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: business is at and where I'm at.

778
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: Chris like, yeah, here you go, you just have it.

779
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: And I think we in that era anyways, because down

780
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: to what you were saying with the Battle, like there's

781
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: fans that were not around in twenty twelve, there's younger

782
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: kids that became fans of you because of the output

783
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: that was going on in that battle.

784
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: Now, with our attention span, you need to just keep

785
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: putting it out.

786
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: Putting it out. Yeah, facts, And it's like, you know,

787
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: I really want to be more aligned with that idea.

788
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I really like musically, you know,

789
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: I think about it like I'm thirty now, I'm like,

790
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 4: all right, shit, Like these next ten years, I want

791
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: to put out the most music I've ever put out,

792
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like like I want to

793
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: put out way more music than I did in my twenties. Yeah,

794
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I only gave three projects

795
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: in my twenties, Like you know, I want to give

796
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 4: like at least five this go around, you know what

797
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 4: I'm saying, So like, yeah, that's why in my mind,

798
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, like fuck it like it

799
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: don't got a concept, but this is what you want

800
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 4: to do. Like I always look at music like painting.

801
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying like I'm painting this is

802
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 4: the picture that this is my interpretation or this is

803
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: my artistic expression at the moment, and usually I don't

804
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: get to share that so closely to when I'm feeling it. So,

805
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 4: you know, lonely at the top was was was a

806
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: bit of I feel like it gave me some type

807
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 4: of like artistic empowerment and like integrity. You know what

808
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's like yo, yeah, it's the funk on it.

809
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: Just having a family two kids, Like, does does that

810
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: change that perspective of like, hey, now I'm not doing

811
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: three albums and my thirties, we're pumpish it out. Oh,

812
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: I mean I would say shifting pivot the lifestyle change,

813
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I guess a bit.

814
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: No, I don't think that. If anything, what that has

815
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 4: to do with like it has to do with getting

816
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: in the way.

817
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying, like like.

818
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: Me being able to not move as fast as I

819
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: want to. Yeah, you know what I mean.

820
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: Because I think, let's output because I want to be

821
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: around right any more material because you're around them.

822
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: Right, and you know what you know, to be frank too,

823
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: is like the only reason why I feel like I

824
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: didn't put out so uh more like music in my

825
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 4: twenties is because you know, I came into this game

826
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: really young. So I was like, yo, I spent the

827
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 4: last fifteen years finding myself, you know what I'm saying,

828
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: Trying shit, fucking throwing aways pieces I like that, I

829
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 4: don't like you know what I'm saying, picking up new

830
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: things and all that. So I think that a lot

831
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: of it was me really trying to understand like who

832
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: I was, who I wanted to be, how I wanted

833
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: to show up, and shit like that, and and me

834
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: constantly shifting from like like in six months, right in

835
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: six months, I'll be a whole different person. Like, ah,

836
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 4: that music I just made six months ago, for I

837
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 4: throw it all the way. You know what I'm saying,

838
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: I don't want it no more Like six months ago,

839
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 4: I would loved to put that shit out, but now

840
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 4: six months later, I'm like, now I want to work

841
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: on a whole new thing.

842
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: But you know what, even kept you grounding in that regard,

843
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: because we've most people that find money and even a

844
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: tiny bit of fame at fifteen, sixteen seventeen typically turn

845
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: out to be fucking insane human beings what kept you

846
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: running through that entire I'm like, damn, am I and which.

847
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: No, I think it's like you're definitely it's one of

848
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: the same ones.

849
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just again back to the

850
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: bias of the New Yorker shit, but it's it's very

851
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: odd that your story shouldn't be the way it is.

852
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: If it's somebody else, you would usually turn out to

853
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: be a fucking, very.

854
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 4: Stressing like that. But that thing, though, I wasn't like

855
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 4: a child start.

856
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that regards Let not act

857
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: like you weren't rich and somewhat famous at eighteen.

858
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's valid because

859
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: you know I was. I was, I was thinking about that.

860
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 4: I was talking to somebody. I'm like, Yo, my whole

861
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 4: adult life, I've been in some type of public god. Yeah.

862
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's not normal at all.

863
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: That's not normal. You know what I'm saying, Like, I

864
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: don't have no recollection of adult life without existing in

865
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: the public god type shit. So I mean, I would

866
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: say that a lot of it got to do with family,

867
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, I've never moved out

868
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 4: of New York. I spent thirty summers here, and you know,

869
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 4: I'm starting to regret it a little bit, like if

870
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 4: I need something new man like I want to kind

871
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: of be afraid, you know what I'm saying, Like I

872
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: want to be like feeling something that yeah, you know

873
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: so so so that that is a big part of it,

874
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 4: like grounded by my foundation, by my roots. And then

875
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: you know, also I think just the type of man

876
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: that I am, the type of human that I am,

877
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I'm always seeking knowledge, I'm always

878
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: seeking feedback. I'm always trying to take accountability, trying to

879
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: be a better person. That's like extremely important to me,

880
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

881
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: So lonely at the top is out now go stream.

882
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: That one of the features that I was really happy

883
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: to see because this is somebody that I think is

884
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: super ill. But sonically y'all remind me of each other

885
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: so much. It was Rome Streets. Oh yeah, Like that

886
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: was like when I saw you and Rome had a

887
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: record together, I was just the hip hop nerd in

888
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: me was like that makes all the sense to the word.

889
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 4: How did that come about?

890
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: And do you and Rome have like a relationship before

891
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: this or it's just the start of it, so.

892
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: You're not you know. So I did a joint with Rome,

893
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 4: I want to say, like what like two years ago, now,

894
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And that's the first time

895
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 4: we connected. But me putting him on this project was

896
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: very intentional because I feel like when it comes to

897
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: this side of hip hop and when I say this

898
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 4: out I mean like the lyrical niggas and shit like that,

899
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: I feel like it's not enough of us like lifting

900
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 4: each other up, you know what I'm saying. So I

901
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 4: really wanted to kind of like lead by example in

902
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: a way. I think it's easy for us to like,

903
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I mean not always easy, right,

904
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: but I think it's easier for us to be able

905
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: to like jump on somebody's record, but it's like to

906
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: put somebody who's going to come up on your shit.

907
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 4: I think that's like the ultimate like Olive branch or,

908
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: like you know, meaching out, you know what I'm saying,

909
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: support and shit like that, because yeah, I fuck with wrong,

910
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I think Rome is super dope,

911
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 4: Romanzo su Brooklyn, you know what I'm saying. So, like

912
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: I look at Rome like home team call Cash, same thing.

913
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: I became familiar with call Cash through the whole back

914
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: and forth. I've never heard his music before. We do

915
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: got a lot of mutuals and shit.

916
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yo, it's history, parents and everybody in

917
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is right right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.

918
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 4: And I got him to that and all that, So

919
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, you know what, Like I really want

920
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 4: to lead by example with that, and I want to

921
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 4: intentionally be able to like lift motherfuckers up, you know

922
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and shine the light and not like

923
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 4: you know, Horde or keep everything you know for myself.

924
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: And I want this. I want all of us as

925
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: lytical mcs to welcome that and embrace that because I

926
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: think on this side of the game, it's a lot

927
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: of it's way more competition, or at least the competition

928
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 4: is different, you know what I'm saying. So I want

929
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: to kind of like kick that door down and being like, yo,

930
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 4: we could have that friendly competition, you know what I'm saying,

931
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: but we could all still like coexist, Like I don't

932
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: got to be afraid, you know, to give Rome or

933
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 4: cost some light, you know what I'm saying. Afraid of what.

934
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because they're gonna get some

935
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 4: of my fans. They should, you know what I'm saying.

936
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: I have some of my fans because I feel like

937
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 4: that's how I felt on the way up. You know

938
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I'm like, yo, like I know, I'm nice,

939
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and like I will connect

940
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 4: with people who when I see them in person, it's like,

941
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: yoall fuck with you, Like, Yo, I got some records

942
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: for you. I'm like Senate and niggas will never send

943
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 4: the ship And it's just like, as a lyrical nigga,

944
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 4: what you're gonna think? Right? Scared? You know what I'm saying,

945
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. So I kind of just

946
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 4: want to change that perception and to just make it fun,

947
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: make it easy, make it inviting for us, lyrical and

948
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 4: see to share space with each other.

949
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of full circle back to the

950
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: New York conversation that we were trying to avoid.

951
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: I think that's also what's been missing, Yes, that very

952
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: very thing.

953
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 4: More unity in the city period. Facts. Listen, I'm somebody

954
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: like I got a firm understanding, bro and belief that

955
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 4: like it was enough money I had for all of us, absolutely,

956
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: and it's like, Yo, nobody's gonna be Joey. You know

957
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like like niggas could do what they

958
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: want to do.

959
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

960
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: We gotta I'm me. You know what I'm saying. Like

961
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 4: I'm on TV too, you know what I mean. Like

962
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: I'm doing a bunch of other shit too. I'm anna

963
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: shine different, you know what I'm saying. So I'm not

964
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 4: worried about giving the nigga an entryway on my track.

965
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 4: It's like, Yo, I think you dope, but I think

966
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 4: you deserve it. You know what I'm saying, you should

967
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: have that entryway type shit. And you know that's how

968
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: I feel about Rome and Kai And that's what I

969
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: told him too, when like I first told him that

970
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 4: y'all wanted, you know, him to jump on my show.

971
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, bro, like I want to shine a

972
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: light on you. You know what I'm saying, because you deserve

973
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 4: that ship, nigga, Like nice romans, Romans want to romans.

974
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: That's right now.

975
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: And even like I do hate some of that New

976
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: York conversation because I always felt, you know, maybe there

977
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: could have been more records between pro Era and ASAP,

978
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, one train obviously is a

979
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: classic Fergus on the joint.

980
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: Now it was one joint that we had on the

981
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: Cozy tape shit too.

982
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: What was that era like when both crews were coming up,

983
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: because I know y'all did fuck with each other.

984
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we we like Fergus my brother to this,

985
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Me and flyacoh cool to

986
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 4: this day. You know what I'm saying. Twelve V like

987
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 4: love Nast, you know what I'm saying, fucking Addy anybody.

988
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like the first time we

989
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: went on tour was back at twenty thirteen. So it's

990
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: like a real brotherhood between pro Era and ASAP, you

991
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But as far as like collaborations,

992
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 4: I don't know. You know, it is also a real

993
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 4: thing that sometimes things just don the line, and I

994
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: think it was like you know what I mean, But

995
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: also like you know, we was really we was like

996
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: I would sound like, yeah, we was all in New

997
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 4: York and we represent the pieces of New York. But

998
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: I'll say, like, you know, pro Er, like we was

999
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: more like conscious you know what I mean, And like

1000
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 4: the Mob was more like yeah, you know, Wavy trill

1001
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 4: or whatever. So you know, trying to find that medium

1002
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: is not always the easiest thing artistically, but we was

1003
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: always able to like just get along or hang out

1004
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 4: and share space and support each other, you know what

1005
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, yeah, Rocky then came out to like

1006
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: when I was doing the Day festivals, Rocky probably came

1007
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 4: out like three years, three years in a row or

1008
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 4: some ship like that, you know what I'm saying. Vice versas.

1009
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 4: I've been to YMS, I came out of YMS Day

1010
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: for a few times as well. So who was able

1011
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: was always able to share space, but it wasn't always

1012
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: the easiest thing to like naturally find how the music

1013
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 4: was created, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, which is cool,

1014
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1015
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: Are there any other producers on this album that you

1016
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: wanted to work with? And if are there any other

1017
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: producers that you're looking forward to working with that you

1018
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: haven't had the chance to work with yet, Producers, let

1019
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: me see who's on your Like, I gotta get a

1020
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: couple joints with this producer for real?

1021
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: That makes older sense in the world. Yeah, for real,

1022
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 4: I think I think everybody else I didn't pretty much

1023
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: worked with at this point.

1024
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean Super Flea, I feel like you put it

1025
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: that Neptune Ship. I was around Bree when she was

1026
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: working I had to do this sh it myself.

1027
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

1028
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: I was around Brie when she was working on that

1029
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: joint friend of the show she's been on ear Bunch.

1030
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: That's that's that's our homework. Bree Man smoked that ship.

1031
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: And when she had played me the first idea when

1032
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: she was writing to it, I was like, Okay, that's

1033
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: why Joey around the same age as like that Neptune Ship.

1034
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: And what that did to us is as kids like

1035
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: who produced that?

1036
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: Because they Kirk Knight.

1037
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: They nailed it, not in a like a biting way,

1038
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: they did make it their own.

1039
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, kirk Knight produced that. Kirk Knight also produced

1040
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 4: all of the records that I had in the Battle

1041
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: of My Town and he smoked my Yeah you know,

1042
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 4: you know Kirk Knight Knights pro. You know what I'm saying,

1043
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 4: So do you forever. But but yeah, when we was

1044
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 4: in the studio that day made Super Flee, I'm like,

1045
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: at first, I was like, I don't know that. We

1046
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: kept listening. I'm like, yo, this ship sounds like so

1047
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: much things, and we called it super Flee because to me,

1048
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 4: when I heard at first was super Thug. Okay, you

1049
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like, And the funny thing is

1050
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 4: Kirk can't even hear the song. He never even heard

1051
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: super Thug. How what.

1052
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: He's produced for you.

1053
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: Let me let me rephrase that He's heard super Thug,

1054
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 4: but he wasn't like familiar with it in the way

1055
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 4: that I was familiar. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

1056
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 4: Like like he heard it in passion throughout his life

1057
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: is childhood. And when I played, he's like, oh, I

1058
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 4: know that, but it's like I know super Thug. Like

1059
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I'll still bump Super Thug

1060
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 4: to this day type of ship. So immediately I'm like, Nigga,

1061
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 4: that shit sound like this. And then somebody else played

1062
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: Holler back Young and like, Nigga, that shit sound like this.

1063
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, this ship is weirdly just a fucking

1064
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 4: amalgamation of like all of that ship. It's weird, but

1065
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, I gotta do this ship.

1066
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 4: I gotta do it.

1067
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: I remember on the show I was talking about the

1068
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: first time we actually met. We were in Atlanta at

1069
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: at JD Studio and I was I was telling Rory,

1070
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: I was laughing. I was like, yo, I was in

1071
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 3: the studio, uh with JD, and you know, Joey walked in.

1072
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, obviously I love what he's

1073
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 3: been doing for New York and everything.

1074
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 4: Finally got a chance to meet him. Super cool. I

1075
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: was like, yo, but he fucked me up because he.

1076
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: Was standing in the hall and if you ever been

1077
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: to JD Studio, he got all his plaques all over

1078
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 3: the all.

1079
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 4: The action figures and shit. Yeah, So I'm like, yo.

1080
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: So Joey was standing there.

1081
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: He was staring at bow Wow's plaque and I think

1082
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: a fight of something was on it.

1083
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 4: We are watching it and I kept looking.

1084
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, why is he standing at the wall

1085
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: looking at Bowos plaque like this? And I remember you

1086
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: saying like, yo, this is the guy that inspired me

1087
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: to rap.

1088
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: And I was like, bow Wow Wow.

1089
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 3: I could not believe, like to this day because nothing

1090
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: about your sound, your style, the way you rap, says

1091
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: bow Wow inspired me. But I guess the age yeah,

1092
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: and obviously bow I was a megastar. But artistically, was

1093
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: it inspirational or was it just the fact that he

1094
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: was just you couldn't turn on the TV.

1095
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: You just ain't in general, No, in general, liken like

1096
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: I feel like, listen to inspiration. What I meant by

1097
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: that is when I saw a bae. I remember I

1098
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 4: was a kid, so I saw myself in bad Wow.

1099
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, like, here's a kid, here's

1100
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 4: a black kid, you know what I'm saying, like having

1101
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: success in this shit. I always had an affinity for rapping,

1102
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 4: poetry and shit like that, so that just kind of

1103
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 4: made me feel like he made me feel like I

1104
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 4: was closer to the dream because I looked at him,

1105
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 4: like me, you know what I'm saying, But it wasn't

1106
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 4: necessarily like a sound thing. And it's funny that you

1107
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 4: say that because a lot of people in this game

1108
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 4: currently today, you know what I'm saying coming to me

1109
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 4: and they say that, and it's like they sound there's

1110
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 4: nothing like my shit, but they be like, yo, when

1111
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 4: I first saw your shit, like going bull when you

1112
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: inspire me, and I realized it's the same thing for them.

1113
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 4: They saw them seeing like a young black dude making

1114
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: it out the motherfucking nowhere. That's inspirational. That's like, oh

1115
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: I could do it too, That's what it communicates, you

1116
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, people

1117
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 4: sometimes they are inspired in the way to where they

1118
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 4: just see themselves in you. And it's not necessarily like

1119
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 4: a sonic thing, a music musical thing. It's just more

1120
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: of a aspirational thing. I can make it. Yeah, exactly.

1121
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: Even I was rapping like forget the time very much

1122
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: listen so much like what ended up being nice and nine,

1123
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: but it was fire. It was I guarantee if you

1124
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: if I have not listened to Beware of the Dog

1125
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: in probably twenty years, but that's so I should still.

1126
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: Hit my brain. You played Beware of the Dog song,

1127
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: I could probably rap along.

1128
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: Take Your Home, still slap. I just listened to it

1129
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 4: not so long. I should still slap, like.

1130
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: I could probably rap if you just played it. I

1131
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: could probably rap it because it's so embedded in my mind.

1132
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 4: Is imprinted, it's imprinted in love brain.

1133
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: I about listen, I get it, but it's just like

1134
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 3: it's just to hear that.

1135
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 4: Swam to and all that when I was a kid.

1136
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: You know what I mean came over school one day

1137
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 4: my auntie my mom was like, Yo, they gotta stream

1138
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 4: toward tickets. I said, we out shoppn't me. That's hilarious.

1139
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what were some of your other I

1140
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: guess influences that would make make more I guess more

1141
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: sensive as far as I don't over be doing I

1142
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: like you said, do them, Yeah.

1143
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely doing. I was helling, bro when I was

1144
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 4: in high school. Bro, I went through a crazy doing

1145
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 4: phase man, because that's why I was introduced to do

1146
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 4: them rest in Peace. My brother Capital Sti's put me

1147
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: on the doom.

1148
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: Like.

1149
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: But when I got to high school ninth grade, I

1150
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: was like, I'm getting signed to Young Money. That was

1151
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 4: my vision. That was my vision for self. That's what

1152
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: I was thinking. I'm a nigga, nigga, Young Money gonna

1153
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 4: sign me nigga. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm like, yeah,

1154
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, nah, that's but then

1155
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 4: I got to high school and you know what I mean,

1156
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 4: people like Steve's and then he put me on the

1157
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: MF doom and I'm like, oh shit, I ain't even

1158
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: know motherfucker's rap like this. It was like, you know,

1159
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 4: because you know when you when you got an idea,

1160
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 4: you think about young money, it's like that's everything you

1161
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: exposed to, like on the radio, on the TV. But

1162
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 4: then when I was introduced to underground rap, it was

1163
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: like this whole world open in my brain. And then

1164
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 4: I started to go back in time. Then I started

1165
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 4: revisiting the classes because you know, you grew up in

1166
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: New York, you're familiar with NAS, You're familiar. But my

1167
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 4: entreated NAS is Ushi Wally. You know what I'm saying.

1168
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 4: It's like like that's when I'm here, That's when NAS

1169
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 4: is coming through my consciousness for the first time. It's like,

1170
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: shate me now.

1171
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: And like even with Mob Deep, like the first Mob

1172
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: Deep song I loved was Hey Love and then went

1173
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: super bad like I thought I was.

1174
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: I was eleven.

1175
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, probably get it twisted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that

1176
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 4: is my introule, Like my my deepest shit.

1177
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: Shit was mainly because of one twelve.

1178
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I was really outside when shook ones,

1179
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 4: like I was in side.

1180
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: It was five years old. What year Shuper one shot

1181
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: ninety five?

1182
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 4: I was I was being swaddled. Yeah, I was probably

1183
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: hearing it. You know about Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah,

1184
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: you're going out of the road, going on to how

1185
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 4: you feel about back outside? Man, Man, it's different nowadays.

1186
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 4: I can't lie, you know what I'm saying, Like now

1187
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: post pandemic and ship like that, Like tour feels different

1188
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 4: for me. Like when I was you know, seventeen eighteen,

1189
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 4: I had the guys, We're going out there collective strong

1190
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 4: sh It was fun. Now kind of feel like work

1191
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 4: a little bit. It ain't gonna lie, but what makes

1192
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 4: it worth it is seeing the people, touching the people,

1193
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: hearing the stories and seeing those faces, people crying and

1194
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 4: ship like that, you know, but I can't lie. Don't

1195
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 4: enjoy the fucking terrible food. Yeah, West bubble fuck. I

1196
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 4: can't get no oxtail right now. Some of them states

1197
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: days no tail. You know what I'm saying.

1198
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: No, that sounds like an album, that's an action bronzing right.

1199
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: How are you gonna bring the family on the road?

1200
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: Because that said, this year, this was the first time.

1201
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: Got how many years now have we been torn?

1202
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 4: Three?

1203
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, even with the old pot like, this is

1204
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: the first time this year I said no to torring

1205
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: just because I've got a kidd and ship. I feel

1206
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: because ship we had Tomara in Chicago Philly, Like I

1207
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: can't keep taking my kid on the.

1208
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: Road like that is is exhausting.

1209
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, my daughter is seven, but

1210
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 4: my little man just you know, you're just a couple

1211
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 4: of months old, and it's like, you know, the tour

1212
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: environment is just not a sanitary one, you know what

1213
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: i mean, Like anytime you get on that to every tour,

1214
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: I've gotten sick. Everybody gets sick. Just take one motherfucker

1215
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: to sink the bus, you know what I'm saying. One

1216
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Because it's just so close

1217
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 4: quarters and all of that. You know, there's a lot

1218
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 4: of energy exchange. I'm giving DAPs to like one hundred

1219
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: monthfuckers every city and ship like that, Like, yeah, that's

1220
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: that's not environment for little man. But I'm definitely gonna,

1221
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 4: you know, fly back home for gods, like you're taking

1222
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 4: on the road with you right, No, no, no, no, no,

1223
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 4: I'm taking that's uh. I think k going out with Jid, yeah,

1224
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 4: Cad going out with Jed right now is just myself

1225
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 4: absolute and rhapsody. And we're about to start adding focusing

1226
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of.

1227
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: You know, my is gonna be front road for Yeah,

1228
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: I got my you know rhapsody family man, shout the rating,

1229
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: Shout out the rat man.

1230
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: What's up. What's one of your favorite Mac Miller memories?

1231
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 4: Oh? Man, I can't remember where we was at. We

1232
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 4: were somewhere overseas doing one of those festivals, and I

1233
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 4: remember pulling up, you know because at the time, Static

1234
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: Selected was my DJ, and Static and Mac had a

1235
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 4: super close relationship, you know what I mean. That was

1236
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 4: like his little brother. So I remember we we we

1237
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 4: we like, you know, we went to Max dressing room,

1238
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 4: and it's so funny because at that point I seen

1239
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 4: him reading his lyrics and listening to his music, like

1240
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 4: trying to get prepared for the show. And I was like, man,

1241
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: I ain't never gonna have to do that. Now. That's

1242
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: where I'm at in my Life's like for every show,

1243
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 4: I gotta like I'm reading the lyrics. It's like, but

1244
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 4: it's just such a distinc memory of that because I

1245
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 4: remember being like that shit just seems so fun of me.

1246
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, you gotta read your lyrics like you don't

1247
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: know your music. But I'm thinking from a nigga only

1248
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 4: had one project out type shit, you know what I'm

1249
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 4: saying at the time, and you already put a couple out.

1250
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, that whole that whole situation, that whole day. Man,

1251
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 4: we just had a lot of fun. Like Mac was

1252
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: was a very just a fun dude to be around,

1253
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like never serious, you know

1254
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, just just it just being jokes and

1255
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 4: just a good time and shit like that. So I

1256
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 4: remember that. I can't remember what fucking festival that was though.

1257
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 4: Super talented though Mac. Yeah, man recipes man for sure.

1258
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: So let's let's talk about you know, the big screen

1259
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: being on TV man with Raisin Kanan playing unique. How

1260
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 3: much has that changed Joey's like real life? How much

1261
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 3: has that impacted your real life?

1262
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 4: Well? Shit, man, Like black people gravitate to me now,

1263
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 4: like in a real way, Like you know what I'm saying,

1264
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: for the longest time, it's.

1265
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: Not me like yo, you hurt nice.

1266
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, No facts, facts, you know

1267
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like for a long time, I could

1268
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 4: kind of go under the radar, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1269
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 4: like you know, people will know, like, oh, you know

1270
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, but they not like it was no

1271
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 4: super fans like you know what I mean, in my

1272
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: community like that. But now it's like, yo, boy man,

1273
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 4: like I ain't gonna lie sometimes like oh, some niggas

1274
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 4: over there, I'm going thistide. Yeah, go ahead, I'm about

1275
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 4: to y'all neigh like that be really low, bro, I

1276
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 4: be low and ship like that. So nah, but it's

1277
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 4: dope though, man, And I really do love it, like

1278
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: I really, I really do love it man, Like it's

1279
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 4: it's a beautiful thing, you know what I'm saying, Like

1280
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 4: you always want to be embraced by your community, absolutely

1281
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So it's beautiful.

1282
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: You're acting though, like definitely.

1283
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: Like you're you're you're like an actor like now, and

1284
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: I understand it's you know, playing the role of Unique

1285
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: and raising Kanan is probably not too foreign to you

1286
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 3: movie star.

1287
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 4: There you go. It's not too far in.

1288
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: And let's not leave out him playing Deck because I

1289
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: was mad when he didn't go to the second season.

1290
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but playing Unique obviously based in New York. New

1291
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: York's story kind of familiar to the slang and the

1292
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 3: fash and everything is very familiar to you. But you

1293
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 3: did add an element to Raising Kanan that I think

1294
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 3: brought in a lot of people, like, Yo, this is

1295
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: a really good show.

1296
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 4: Because a lot of people was kind of off it.

1297
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 3: The whole Power series got kind of weird after a while,

1298
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: but Raising Kanan I think brought in a lot of people,

1299
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: and then Unique's character definitely elevated it. But there was

1300
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 3: an interesting part in season three. Obviously, Ronnie beats the

1301
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: shit out of Unique.

1302
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 4: I thought your character was dead.

1303
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, contract, First we think it was contract.

1304
01:02:59,080 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: They couldn't come to an agree.

1305
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 4: Then correction, Unique beat the ship out of Ronnie. But

1306
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 4: then the nigga got a medal. You know what I'm saying.

1307
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 4: He won a Unique one that fight forgetting then he

1308
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 4: got his hands on the fire be out of the streets.

1309
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, I hate Wed. I'm like, did

1310
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: you see what?

1311
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: And then then we saw real footage and I was like,

1312
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: now Joey could fight.

1313
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 3: But that whole thing because I it was presumed that

1314
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 3: Unique the character was dead, which was like, this is

1315
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,439
Speaker 3: probably one of the most favorite characters on the show.

1316
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: Why would they kill Unique? So I was on they

1317
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: was like, Nah, Unique ain't dead, He's coming back. I say,

1318
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 3: you listen, man, if they try to bring this Unique

1319
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: character back after that beating he took with that pipe

1320
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: and then dumping his body in the middle of pause,

1321
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: that was crazy.

1322
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: That was crazy.

1323
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: That was cy.

1324
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: Got myself. I couldn't even get it.

1325
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 3: That was crazy dumping his body in the middle of

1326
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 3: nowhere and then to come back to the next season, Like,

1327
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: what's that originally part of it? Or was it something

1328
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: where Unique was supposed to be written off because of

1329
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 3: we always think.

1330
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 4: About contract issues.

1331
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 3: They weren't able to agree on something so they had

1332
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 3: to kind of kill a character of or was that

1333
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 3: literally part of.

1334
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 4: If I was supposed to go so about it. So

1335
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 4: by the time you know, you've seen it on TV

1336
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 4: and you're watching it, we already understood where we was

1337
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 4: going with it. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So

1338
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 4: it was already worked out in the background that I

1339
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 4: was coming back. Nobody else knew it except for me

1340
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 4: and like the show running, you know what I'm saying.

1341
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 4: But what had happened was I was I opted out.

1342
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, because I had a

1343
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 4: scheduled conflict with my tour. When I dropped two thousand

1344
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 4: and the shooting schedule for Keanan, trying to make both work.

1345
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 4: There was no way to do both. So I was

1346
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 4: basically like, you know what, yo, y'all could kill me

1347
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: off in season three. Yeah, I wasn't planning to be

1348
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 4: hear that long because I didn't want to get you know,

1349
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 4: pitching hole into no character, you know what I'm saying.

1350
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 4: I didn't want to stay in you know what I mean,

1351
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 4: So fuck it, you know, and you know they didn't

1352
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: want to let me go. They like it was kind

1353
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 4: of devastating. But I'm like, yo, I'm I'm I'm still

1354
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 4: a rapper though, guys, like, you know what I'm saying,

1355
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 4: I have a rap career, you know what I mean.

1356
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 4: I got to hit the road world tour, he like, So,

1357
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 4: you know, for me, it was just like all fuck it, Like,

1358
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 4: you know, I feel like I ran the course at

1359
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 4: that point in time. I did what I had to do,

1360
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 4: so I was content with walking away. But the day

1361
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 4: that I walked into, uh the head casting office, head

1362
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 4: casting is so so you see the way he fucking

1363
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 4: beating uh the character is like I had to get

1364
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 4: my my my head like like a silicone version of

1365
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 4: my head made almost sting there so they could like

1366
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 4: beat your head. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, they

1367
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 4: could destroy it. And when I walked in there, I

1368
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: had this crazy easy gut feeling that I was making

1369
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 4: the wrong decision. So I'm like, yo, like I think

1370
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 4: I'm making a mistake, you know. And another thing that

1371
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 4: really made me walking away easier. I had a play

1372
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 4: that was in the future, like another opportunity, another role,

1373
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 4: but it wasn't solidified, you know what I'm saying. It

1374
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 4: was just something that was Yeah, it was in the

1375
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 4: talks about I'm like fuck it, like you know, I'm

1376
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 4: gonna go on my tour and I'm gonna come home

1377
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 4: and walk right into some other shit. So I'm like,

1378
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 4: you know what, but something was just telling me. And

1379
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 4: it's like I'm very keen on like gut and like spirit,

1380
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: Like I feel like spirit talked to me and like

1381
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 4: I listened. So I called my moms because you know,

1382
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 4: my mom's is somebody who was always super profound when

1383
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 4: it comes to like decision making and shit like that.

1384
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 4: So I'm like, yo, like I don't know what to do.

1385
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 4: You know, I got this other opportunity boom boom, and

1386
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 4: you know, she was like, yo, listen, one in the

1387
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 4: hand is better than two in the bush. And when

1388
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 4: she dropped that on me, I was like, all right,

1389
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call you back. I call up Sasha pen

1390
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 4: who's the show runner and the creator Raising Cat, and

1391
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, Sash, it's the any way we could

1392
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 4: like bring me back. And he was like, Joey, don't

1393
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 4: fuck with me. Don't play with me. Are you serious?

1394
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 4: Because when we hang up, I'm going to make some

1395
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 4: calls and I'm going to call you back, but do

1396
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 4: not make me make these fucking calls. And you're not serious,

1397
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 4: Do not funk me.

1398
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: Kelly, mind you in power, we fifty blew up in

1399
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: a warehouse and came back.

1400
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 4: Right the nigga was locking.

1401
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 2: Fing away bring by the way, came back a little.

1402
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, ship, But yeah, he was

1403
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 4: like you know, and he made the call and he

1404
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 4: called me back. He was like, Yo, you gotta keep

1405
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 4: this between us, you know what I'm saying, because I

1406
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 4: gotta do a lot clean up. I gotta go back

1407
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 4: in the fucking writer's room. I gotta change the story.

1408
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 4: Like so just keep this between me and us and ship.

1409
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 4: You know, I held it down and you know I

1410
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 4: had I had to kind of rite it out. So

1411
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 4: the fun ship about it was I had to tell

1412
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 4: all my castmates, like like when we did the table

1413
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 4: read episode five with Unique Diyes, Yeah, anybody said they

1414
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 4: farewells to me. That's crazy. I know it was. I

1415
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 4: felt like an asshole. Broe.

1416
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you had your whole wake everybody.

1417
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 4: It's incredible. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I

1418
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 4: love you many just for me to come back episode like,

1419
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 4: you know, so it was funny. That is hilarious, man,

1420
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 4: But I mean I understand why they made that. They

1421
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 4: had to. They had to. They had to bring Unique.

1422
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 2: Back, and that has something to do also with the

1423
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 2: Wu Tang Hulu serious when you was that the world season?

1424
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, which, by the way, I think Rizzid does

1425
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: not get enough credit.

1426
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 2: That's one of the best series I've seen.

1427
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 4: You smoked.

1428
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: Deck when it switched.

1429
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: But I forgive me for not knowing that the other

1430
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: gentleman's name that played Deck he smoked it as well.

1431
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I forgive my man. Yeah, he was he

1432
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 4: was Deck than me.

1433
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought he was. You know what I'm saying,

1434
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 1: prepare for the Deck role for the first To be

1435
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: real with you, my heart wasn't all the way in there, Okay,

1436
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1437
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: And I think there's a clear distinction on like Joey

1438
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 4: playing Deck and Joey playing Unique because I never, like,

1439
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 4: I made it a thing, like I never wanted to

1440
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 4: play a rapper. Yeah. Never. I made the exception for

1441
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: Rizen because I love Risen and like he was one

1442
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 4: of my early mentors in the game. So when he

1443
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 4: asked me, it was like, yeah, yeah, I'm not you

1444
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna tell him no,

1445
01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 4: like you know, when they wanted me to do that,

1446
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: I'm like that. But I never wanted to play a rapper,

1447
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So while I was trying

1448
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 4: to make them both work, I couldn't because my deal

1449
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 4: with Keenan was exclusive, so I couldn't be a recurring

1450
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 4: on another show at the same time that I was

1451
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 4: on Kanan, I didn't have an exclusive with Wu Tang,

1452
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 4: and that's how they lost me, you know what I mean.

1453
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 4: That's how I was able to get another role and

1454
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 4: you know, a what was a better opportunity for me?

1455
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 4: And you know, kind of peace out.

1456
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1457
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean even as a fan, like when they did

1458
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: the press release for the first season of the Wu

1459
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: Tang Saga, they had your name and they had Davis.

1460
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: That was like Joey Badass playing Inspector Deck. Davey's playing I.

1461
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 4: Was by the way. I thought David's myth was a

1462
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 4: perfect casting.

1463
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: I was sitting there like, all right, obviously they rappers,

1464
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: they know how to deliver this ship. I was blown

1465
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: away about the way that worked because Davey smoked method. Man.

1466
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: You saying perfect casting. I'm telling you I was wrong

1467
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: in looking that was like I get it that Dave

1468
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: from New York. This will work, I guess because he'll

1469
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: know how to deliver ship. But that whole role and

1470
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: you doing Deck, I wasn't even sure at that time.

1471
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: It's like all right, we just.

1472
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 4: Still like, yeah, I still had dreads the time underneath

1473
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 4: the Little band Dennis. It was my dreads. I even

1474
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 4: cut my head yet at a time.

1475
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: Why that show did not get awards is beyond me.

1476
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: That that whole series is absolutely incredible.

1477
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 4: Shout the rism man.

1478
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: Shut we can we can close here.

1479
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: Would you say I was your best co star in

1480
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: a in a video of all time when we did

1481
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: the Black Odyssey thing.

1482
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like you was great.

1483
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: He was great, you know you.

1484
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 4: He was a great bad teacher.

1485
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 2: I felt like I felt like we had better on

1486
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: screen chemistry than.

1487
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: I really thought like you and I was gonna take

1488
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: it to the top half of the video, but I understand.

1489
01:11:59,120 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 4: Yo.

1490
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: We could do the buddy movie Buddy Guy.

1491
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 4: Now You're going to Love Too Far Lowly.

1492
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: At the top available now.

1493
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: Joey Badass on tour with Absolult Rhapsody coming to a

1494
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: city near you soon.

1495
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 4: Definitely going to the Brooklyn Show. Is that Paramount right? Yeah? Paramount?

1496
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 4: You said Palladium. I never did Paramount. It's my first time,

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01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 4: so definitely pulling up new venue, some ship. Definitely pulling

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01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 4: up to that.

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01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 3: That's our got, Joey Badass, my brother, Thank you man,

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01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 3: good scene.

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01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me man.

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01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: Love