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Speaker 2: We're here out here in Colorado at the mic oh
Speaker 2: Love Mushroom Farm with NFL quarterback Jake Plumber and his
Speaker 2: team The Snake. I got here a little late, forgive
Speaker 2: me everybody blaming on the weed down my heart with
Speaker 2: today's about mushrooms. Actually so, Jake, thank you for having.
Speaker 1: Us, of course appreciate it. Let's start this tour man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, very excited.
Speaker 4: We're making your way out here to beautiful Colorado. I
Speaker 4: love it and yeah, let's go check it out. Hey,
Speaker 4: what's up, everybody, It's Jake Plumber here. Some people know
Speaker 4: me as the Snake from my playing days with the
Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals and the Denver Broncos. I'm here today in
Speaker 4: Fort Lupton, Colorado at a little spot I helped get
Speaker 4: started with some dear friends of mine called Mico Love Farm,
Speaker 4: where we're growing really amazing organisms in the world of
Speaker 4: fun guy, and I'm here to just let people know
Speaker 4: that there's a option out there for holistic natural healing
Speaker 4: if you're interested in that.
Speaker 1: And this is gonna be a fun day to let
Speaker 1: everybody know what I'm up to to be able to
Speaker 1: share it to anybody out there listening. Let's do a
Speaker 1: little bit of cleanliness here, if you guys don't mind,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: I'm more about the supreme ones out Yeah, I got
Speaker 2: tim pair.
Speaker 1: Our feet fit in the bucket barely. You guys got
Speaker 1: to step in the other way with them, big sideway.
Speaker 1: Welcome in side to Michael Love here this building.
Speaker 2: Explain the name cligure that that's mushroom for what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mico stands for mushroom. It's Latin for mushroomroom. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So mycology study of mushrooms, we have Michael remediation, which
Speaker 1: is remediation through the use of mushrooms. So Michael Love
Speaker 1: was born just out of the fact that mushrooms are
Speaker 1: love for us, you know, love and to the intention
Speaker 1: behind this is to help people feel better, to provide
Speaker 1: them with, you know, something from nature that can help
Speaker 1: them feel better.
Speaker 5: Love it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I started coming out here and got the
Speaker 1: opportunity to learn how to grow from the original owner
Speaker 1: and then got in way over my head and that's
Speaker 1: when I met Shane, and then that's when I met Michael.
Speaker 1: And we got guys that have been in this you know,
Speaker 1: mycologists or amateur foragers that have been studying mycology and mushrooms,
Speaker 1: and then we just we decided to make it legit
Speaker 1: and start experimenting with the finding the best way and
Speaker 1: most efficient way to grow mushrooms and then to extract them.
Speaker 1: In an industry that's growing rapidly and there's talks between
Speaker 1: you know, fruiting body and mycilium, which one is better,
Speaker 1: how do they work? We just wanted to focus on
Speaker 1: fruiting bodies and extracting them and making a really high,
Speaker 1: high potent, efficacious product. So when we give it to you,
Speaker 1: we hope you know you receive it and it helped.
Speaker 2: We're looking forward to receiving it.
Speaker 1: So it's funny because we started Umbo, which umbo is
Speaker 1: the very tip top of a fruiting cap, the top
Speaker 1: of the anything that protrudes out like the boss on
Speaker 1: a shield. And so we started Umbo with my buddy
Speaker 1: Dale Jolly and Rashad Evans on the UFC Hall Tame
Speaker 1: and then this farm came into the picture of like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to learn how to grow mushrooms? Hell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to learn how a girl mushrooms. So we
Speaker 1: came out here, Michael Love was born. And now it's
Speaker 1: really cool because we actually put Michael Love mushroom extract
Speaker 1: in some Mumbo bottles. Okay, so it's it's really nice
Speaker 1: to know who's doing it and have a hand in
Speaker 1: sometimes out here mixing the substrate and picking the rachie
Speaker 1: or helping, you know, inoculate some some rieberries or kind
Speaker 1: of getting nerdy out here with mushrooms experiment. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I jumped into the cannabis space. I mean, I've
Speaker 2: been a cannabis consumer since I was a young teenager.
Speaker 2: Got involved right when I was about to retire around
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen and obviously that was the kind of the
Speaker 2: green rush, and since then it feels like mushrooms are
Speaker 2: kind of the next wave. I know a lot of
Speaker 2: people who are in the cannabis that base formally taking
Speaker 2: all their money and coming in to this space. So
Speaker 2: this is kind of what the new thriving. I know,
Speaker 2: it's not new, but kind of new to culture. So
Speaker 2: to speak, Well, why do you think, I mean, why
Speaker 2: do you think that is? Why is it hitting now?
Speaker 2: But you know we're speaking outside. You said this could
Speaker 2: be thirty four million years old.
Speaker 1: You know who really knows?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think you know, one thing that
Speaker 6: was interesting was COVID. I think a lot of people
Speaker 6: got you know, more health conscious and aware of what
Speaker 6: they're putting in their bodies. And I think a lot
Speaker 6: of the what they call nutraceutical industry, which is more
Speaker 6: you know, pharmaceuticals that come from nature, started being taken
Speaker 6: a little more seriously. I mean, if you consider some
Speaker 6: scary statistics around, if you take what's interesting is like,
Speaker 6: I think it's the fourth leading cause of death. If
Speaker 6: you summed them up for this reason for death for
Speaker 6: the last two decades, it would equal the fourth meeting
Speaker 6: cause of death and this is taking prescription medications as
Speaker 6: prescribed by your physician, which is crazy. So you're listening
Speaker 6: to a medical professional.
Speaker 2: And that's what ing yourselves.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, and I think a lot of things are going
Speaker 6: on where people are going back to nature and they
Speaker 6: want to find a more natural way to deal with
Speaker 6: their issues. I mean, we've gotten thousands of emails of
Speaker 6: anybody from eighteen to one hundred and eighteen, and it's
Speaker 6: sort of if you put it into a theme, it's like, hey,
Speaker 6: Western medicine has failed me. I'm desperate. What can mushrooms
Speaker 6: do for me? And we're at a point where we
Speaker 6: don't know all the answers. There's an estimated at this
Speaker 6: point ten million potential species of fungi in the planet.
Speaker 6: It's a big number, and we've named we the mycology
Speaker 6: industry or the micology world has named maybe one hundred,
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty thousand species. And they're not all
Speaker 6: mushroom forming species. Some of these are ones that grow
Speaker 6: and permeate our environment that you'll never really experience. But
Speaker 6: I think, you know, all of these things led to
Speaker 6: people trying to find, you know, better ways of living
Speaker 6: their lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys ready to show us around.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is the sort of the main room.
Speaker 6: What's really cool about this facility is that it was
Speaker 6: actually constructed in twenty seventeen specifically to grow mushrooms. So
Speaker 6: the entire thing is it was built as a flow
Speaker 6: through facility because you have to be super clean and
Speaker 6: sterile when you when you produce mushrooms, it turns out
Speaker 6: and you want to make sure that you don't backtrack
Speaker 6: contamination or whatever. So this is sort of our dirtiest room,
Speaker 6: if you will. But as we go through, you'll kind
Speaker 6: of learn the different rooms and the flow of what
Speaker 6: we do. And I guess we can kind of start here.
Speaker 6: And a good example is, you know, Michael Love really
Speaker 6: set out to be a vertically integrated mushroom company.
Speaker 1: So that means is that we literally go out to the.
Speaker 6: Wild and Michael here went out to California on a
Speaker 6: hike and he found allion's mane.
Speaker 1: Growing on a log.
Speaker 6: What's really cool is you can take this and they're
Speaker 6: called was it clary potent, which means you can take
Speaker 6: any part of the organism and recreate it.
Speaker 1: So what we do here at the.
Speaker 6: Farm is we'll take a specimen from the wild. We'll
Speaker 6: take a little tissue sample and we'll put it on
Speaker 6: something called a petri dish. So this is just we'll
Speaker 6: take a little piece of this, put it on the
Speaker 6: dish and let it grow out. Once it grows out
Speaker 6: on this dish, we'll transfer it and turn it into
Speaker 6: a liquid. So we amplify this into five hundred mills
Speaker 6: and then we take a little bit of this and
Speaker 6: we'll inject it into a jar, about a one pound
Speaker 6: jar of rye grain, and then that jar grain. What's
Speaker 6: really cool about fungi is, you know, we consume our
Speaker 6: food and we digest it. Fungi sort of grow into
Speaker 6: their food and then digest it.
Speaker 1: So this started out as rotten.
Speaker 6: You know, stero riberries, and then it grows through the
Speaker 6: entire thing and turns it into its body. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: it gets every stage that we're talking about, it gets
Speaker 6: a little bit stronger. So once it's through, this is
Speaker 6: sort of its teenage food. We'll transfer it and expand
Speaker 6: it into about a ten pound bag of grain. And
Speaker 6: then that ten pound bag of grain will be used
Speaker 6: to inoculate two hundred and forty pounds, and each shelf
Speaker 6: is about two hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 1: They will climb to the tallest tree. This will sprout
Speaker 1: out of their head and then it drops scores on
Speaker 1: the fourt floor from the heights of the So like
Speaker 1: the mushroom is this chicken?
Speaker 2: And to do this like chicken and almost had like
Speaker 2: a meaty the texture is almost meaty. Yeah, yeah, there
Speaker 2: you go like an oyster or something good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go like a scallop that's like a
Speaker 1: piece of hali. But even like that's real good. You
Speaker 1: got it so kind of tas the flavor. Yeah, nice work. Maybe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gonna do this. Michael's got the chef scales, and
Speaker 1: it's good for your brain, and it's good for the
Speaker 1: environment because we're not eating animal animals, right, which we
Speaker 1: all could eat a little less of them.
Speaker 2: Jake just took us through the lab and and and
Speaker 2: and broke down a lot of lines made. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna Jack wants to be the first one to drink
Speaker 2: some mushroom pists. So I'm gonna give it to Mikey
Speaker 2: cheer him on. Now we're heading to the York to
Speaker 2: uh do some more talking and eating too, right.
Speaker 1: Have some good food prepared by Lovely Jackie Jolly Delle's
Speaker 1: wife and nice. Yeah we can go relax in the
Speaker 1: year's good to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, special episode of All the Smoke Coming to you
Speaker 2: from Colorado. Jake Plumber and his team have been kind
Speaker 2: enough to open up their lives really to us. We
Speaker 2: just came from the Mico Love Micae Love Mushroom.
Speaker 3: Farm, and now we had to and now we had
Speaker 3: the Yeah, that's what we had.
Speaker 2: Baby Dale opened up the York for us, and uh,
Speaker 2: it's been an interesting Just again, someone, I've been a
Speaker 2: cannabis advocate since I was a teenager, and obviously to
Speaker 2: see the growth of the of the medicine and the
Speaker 2: acceptance of the medicine, and then obviously now this side
Speaker 2: of the mushroom the growth of it. Obviously it's been
Speaker 2: around for a long time, but I just think the
Speaker 2: growth and acceptances is higher than it's ever been. And
Speaker 2: this is somewhere you found a passion and and and
Speaker 2: and and Jake, if you can talk to us where
Speaker 2: that passion came from and and and what has it
Speaker 2: been like for you on this journey.
Speaker 1: First, thanks for coming out here to Colorado. It's awesome
Speaker 1: to host you guys. As a fan of the NBA,
Speaker 1: watching you guys play, watching some highlights, you know, just recently,
Speaker 1: and like, dude, sometimes you didn't even hit the rim.
Speaker 1: It's just like that all day.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes he would see three rims and the one
Speaker 2: in the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool to connect with you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: with with sports being a bridge and uh where this begin?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, I really have always been
Speaker 1: carrying teammate. Uh had a close family that taught me
Speaker 1: how to take care of each other. Uh, So I've
Speaker 1: always wanted to provide for my guys, you know, like
Speaker 1: if I got something that's good, I'm gonna share. And
Speaker 1: my first kind of journey down to become public about
Speaker 1: the use of cannabis, most importantly or more significant significantly
Speaker 1: as CBD, came with Charlotte's Web, when I got a
Speaker 1: chance to first take it and understand its benefits, to
Speaker 1: feel how it made me feel. It helped me feel
Speaker 1: a lot better. My headaches went away that I was
Speaker 1: having daily felt inflammation and some joints, being able to
Speaker 1: get back down on the floor again without the pain.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, man, there's there's something here.
Speaker 1: If this is illegal, this isn't right, because it's helping me.
Speaker 1: And then I learned about the young children with severe
Speaker 1: seizure disorders that it's helping them, and these mothers that
Speaker 1: are coming to Colorado because they can't do it in
Speaker 1: the state they're in without fear of going to jail
Speaker 1: or prosecution. It's like, that's not right, Like this is
Speaker 1: a human right. And so getting out and advocating about that,
Speaker 1: sending it to my teammates, to my loved ones to
Speaker 1: let them benefit, and then to see the path that
Speaker 1: it's gone on has been amazing. Cannabis is a medicine
Speaker 1: and it helps people whatever way you use it, whether
Speaker 1: that's marijuana or CBD or both combined. Right, there is
Speaker 1: something there that people need to know about. So that's
Speaker 1: been the whole thing to open up, is to educate,
Speaker 1: to advocate. Mushrooms came around because I met a guy
Speaker 1: named Deal Jolly at Charlotte's Web. We became good friends,
Speaker 1: and he gave me some tinctures before the pandemic and
Speaker 1: I started taking those and it was like, WHOA, this
Speaker 1: is crazy. I feel like even another level of freedom
Speaker 1: in my joints. My allergies were not as bad. I
Speaker 1: was not afraid of this virus going around like COVID
Speaker 1: going around getting everybody. I wasn't afraid, and so we
Speaker 1: started rapping about it and said, if we're going to
Speaker 1: do this, let's do it right. Let's make sure our
Speaker 1: product is very, very ethically sourced, potent and works. Because
Speaker 1: Charlotte's Web kind of set the bar with CBD that way,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to do it any other way.
Speaker 1: And that's really what's brought me to hear and now
Speaker 1: from what I've benefitted and been grateful to have this
Speaker 1: opportunity to speak about it with you, with your audience,
Speaker 1: with anybody, that's kind of what I do. I share
Speaker 1: this because we need to know there's nature, there's natural
Speaker 1: ways out there to help your body feel better, to
Speaker 1: help your mind function better, whether that's just being able
Speaker 1: to sleep a little better or have a little more
Speaker 1: energy during the day, to feel a little more productive
Speaker 1: so you don't jump your shit at night when you're
Speaker 1: alone looking in the mirror saying, man, I ain't getting
Speaker 1: shit done. Well, maybe you can get a little more
Speaker 1: productivity with a little more focused, a little more clarity,
Speaker 1: And this is just a chance to do that. So
Speaker 1: it's been a beautiful, beautiful journey. But we're just getting startled.
Speaker 1: And that's the exciting part, is just barely even starting.
Speaker 2: Take us on the journey of a ten year NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2: Obviously one of the most brutal sports out there, and
Speaker 2: obviously we see you perform every Sunday and make magic happen,
Speaker 2: but we don't get to see once you go home,
Speaker 2: once you're outside of the locker room, and what that
Speaker 2: day to day is like, and how someone such as yourself,
Speaker 2: a quarterback who gets hit a lot of times, back
Speaker 2: before they were really protecting quarterbacks, how did you manage pain?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: What you know? Did you have vices?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: How did you manage the off the field issues, not
Speaker 2: only physically but mentally?
Speaker 1: You know? For me, I mean, I was so in it.
Speaker 1: It was just it was it was actually fun to
Speaker 1: get beat up on a game day and then two
Speaker 1: days later be almost back to fielding one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: even though I would you know, it wasn't one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: but to feel my body healing was was good to
Speaker 1: know that I could do that. There was definitely a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of brutal injuries that I fought through.
Speaker 1: Probably should have taken some breaks, but I just didn't
Speaker 1: want to leave the field. I wanted to play, and
Speaker 1: if I left the field gave the door open to
Speaker 1: someone else to take it. It was like, no, I
Speaker 1: want that. I want to keep here, keep doing this
Speaker 1: and pursuing my childhood dream to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The beatings were real, you know, and the stress along
Speaker 1: with that, not just the physical part of the game,
Speaker 1: but also the expectations heaped on really the face of
Speaker 1: a franchise, the number two in any of these billion
Speaker 1: dollar organizations, because they'll fire a coach and they'll keep
Speaker 1: me around, so you're a very very important part of that.
Speaker 1: But managing that was also you know, it was a challenge.
Speaker 1: But I had good people around me. I have real
Speaker 1: strong family, good friends that would pull me back down
Speaker 1: when I was getting a little two up there to
Speaker 1: feeling like I was bigger than I really was. But
Speaker 1: post career, you know, it's been a it's they don't
Speaker 1: prep you for it. They'll they'll offer seminars, that'll offer
Speaker 1: conferences to talk about business or you know, media boot
Speaker 1: camp and all this stuff, but they really don't prepare
Speaker 1: you for what really is out there. And I didn't
Speaker 1: plan for any of that. I was full one hundred
Speaker 1: percent balling when I was playing ball. The last thing
Speaker 1: I wanted to think about was when I retire, I
Speaker 1: think I'm going to try and into this. Like no,
Speaker 1: I was. I just wanted to win a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: So I was solely focused on that. Therefore, when I
Speaker 1: got out, I had to kind of learn how to
Speaker 1: manage my time, manage what I did with my body.
Speaker 1: How do I go get treatment?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: I can't just go to the training room and get
Speaker 1: everybody to put needles in me, to massage me, to
Speaker 1: sit in hot tub, do all this stuff. You got
Speaker 1: to take it all on yourself. So it's been a journey.
Speaker 1: It definitely was. You know, there were some ups and downs,
Speaker 1: and then as we find out with the TBI and
Speaker 1: the concussions and the severity of that, and then, you know,
Speaker 1: real shock for me was when Junior say I took
Speaker 1: his life. That was really like the moment I thought,
Speaker 1: what the fuck did I do this for? What the
Speaker 1: hell is this? This is something I got to look at.
Speaker 1: And that's right about when cannabis was legalized here. I
Speaker 1: moved back to Colorado, and that's about right when Charlotte's
Speaker 1: Webb came into the picture through a teammate, Nate Jackson,
Speaker 1: and a guy working for them named Ryan Kingsbury.
Speaker 2: When the just just the day to day, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, we play long careers in the NBA and
Speaker 2: and to me it doesn't pale to what you guys
Speaker 2: went through. But we were beat up, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, and in pain. And you know, these doctors
Speaker 2: will prescribe us anything, not telling us that it's you know,
Speaker 2: temporarily masking one thing and causing long term effects. Or
Speaker 2: you know, I know something that was very common in
Speaker 2: the NFL was toward all and you know I actually
Speaker 2: took some of that when I was in the league,
Speaker 2: and it was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I was never.
Speaker 2: Really someone that took the painkillers. You know, we both
Speaker 2: risked our career, our entire career because now obviously cannabis
Speaker 2: is legal. But I was always someone that would smoke
Speaker 2: cannabis after games. You know, only time I really miss
Speaker 2: games when I'll suspend it, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: like you said, I wanted to be out there. So
Speaker 2: you know, during your journey of again having to be
Speaker 2: there every single Sunday, you open. Leave that door open,
Speaker 2: you could lose your job. What were some of the
Speaker 2: ways you were able to manage the pain along along
Speaker 2: this journey.
Speaker 1: One was just taking really good care of my body,
Speaker 1: being lucky to come across some really good healers and
Speaker 1: tease a guy named Brett Fisher in Arizona that was
Speaker 1: really he just he just got to know me inside
Speaker 1: and out, like he knew what I needed. I'd go
Speaker 1: see him multiple times during the week. I stayed away
Speaker 1: from the pain medicine too. I took a lot of
Speaker 1: anti inflammatories and that's uh, you know, towards the telling
Speaker 1: in my career. That was one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: I was like, I got to get out of here.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't take these these are they're pulling one,
Speaker 1: you know, some version off the shelf because it's the
Speaker 1: elderly are dying from it that I'm popping to a
Speaker 1: day and it's like, wait, this is this doesn't sit
Speaker 1: real with me. And my mom always warned me, you know,
Speaker 1: and told me to be real cognitive of what you
Speaker 1: put in your body, and uh, towards me tellen. In
Speaker 1: my career, I started, uh you know, I started smoking
Speaker 1: after games and using it as a way to like
Speaker 1: release release like I played in a I played in
Speaker 1: Arizona for six years, an organization that's had some success,
Speaker 1: and then I came here to the Denver Broncos, an
Speaker 1: organization that is his success, And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it was like I was fine with that, Like what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? John Elway? This that like, I'm
Speaker 1: not John, I'm here to ball out. Let's go have
Speaker 1: some fun, you know, like let's go play. If I
Speaker 1: can win a super Bowl, great, But the pressure came
Speaker 1: from like the expectation and the drive to be the best,
Speaker 1: to be perfect. I just it started to weigh me down.
Speaker 1: And postgame my family would be around. Rather than worried
Speaker 1: about not playing the best, I could go down and
Speaker 1: have a little smoke with the fam and I feel
Speaker 1: I would actually feel it. It was like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to watch this film tomorrow. I'm not gonna relive
Speaker 1: it tonight. I get to see my family for four
Speaker 1: hours before I go to bed. I'm gonna drop in
Speaker 1: and see my family. And it was really good for me.
Speaker 1: But it also got me thinking too. Became real aware
Speaker 1: of what I was doing. How long do I want
Speaker 1: to do this because I never set out to do
Speaker 1: it a long time. I remember seeing John Alway my
Speaker 1: second year in the league, and I watched him walk
Speaker 1: out of a bar and up some stairs and I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, that's what sixteen years get you. Like,
Speaker 1: I am not gonna limp out of this game. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna run away from it. And that's that's what I did.
Speaker 1: I was able to pull that off. So I used
Speaker 1: I used a lot of natural medicine, a lot of massage, acupuncture.
Speaker 1: My mom, like I said, she was into holistic medicine
Speaker 1: and would give me garlic and honey for a cold,
Speaker 1: you know, like she was in it. Her mom was
Speaker 1: in it. A lot of herbs, a lot of tea,
Speaker 1: you know, certain things that aren't what you're gonna get
Speaker 1: with modern medicine. So I took pretty good care of
Speaker 1: my body. But it was it was a lot of work.
Speaker 2: Second year with the Cardinals. You guys make the playoffs
Speaker 2: first time in a long time. Talk to us about
Speaker 2: that team and that experience that would have meant for
Speaker 2: that city.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun because I played today State and
Speaker 1: we had a hell of a run in ninety six
Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl. Damn near made it to the
Speaker 1: National champ or basically, we're playing for the national championship.
Speaker 1: We lost that game, and then I get drafted Arizona.
Speaker 1: It was like the last place I wanted to really be.
Speaker 1: I was like, get me out of here. I won't
Speaker 1: ready to go somewhere else. But then it ended up
Speaker 1: being such a blessing to just move down the street
Speaker 1: and I had all my support casts around me. I
Speaker 1: could still go to ash you, I knew where all
Speaker 1: the good restaurants were. I had people that were already fans.
Speaker 1: I'd go out. Couldn't get a meal in college. I'm
Speaker 1: now pro, and I got money. Now I'm getting free
Speaker 1: meals everywhere and everything given to me. And it was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And I was able to get
Speaker 1: in and start right away my rookie year, which was
Speaker 1: also awesome. I didn't really want to, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I didn't plan to play thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to get a Super Bowl ring and then
Speaker 1: be done. And we put it together in ninety eight.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of really really awesome football players
Speaker 1: on the team. Jamiir Miller, Larry Sinners, Lomas Brown, Ronnie McKinnon,
Speaker 1: Kwame Laster. I mean, we had a lot of good players.
Speaker 1: We jailed together. We won four straight to end that season.
Speaker 1: I resigned my rookie contract for what was the biggest
Speaker 1: contract in the league at the time, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: on my birthday, they're renegotiating the contract and it's a
Speaker 1: Friday night. That's my night. I got to get sleep.
Speaker 1: My agent kept calling me. I'm like, yo, I got
Speaker 1: to get some sleep. Stop calling me. I Well got
Speaker 1: them at nine million. I'm like, what do you what? Good?
Speaker 1: Let's where do we sign? Calls me at like eleven thirty.
Speaker 1: We got them to fifteen million. I'm like fifteen million,
Speaker 1: what Like that's signing bonus? Like holy shit, this is
Speaker 1: ninety eight, my second year in the league. And so
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's about to get real now, you know.
Speaker 1: And so we ended up making the playoffs that year.
Speaker 1: Then we kind of tanked, had some some let go
Speaker 1: of a lot of really good players. Management made a
Speaker 1: few bad decisions. I pressed through some injuries I should
Speaker 1: have taken time and kind of struggled for a few years.
Speaker 1: So while it sucked and it wasn't fun losing, it
Speaker 1: was also really good learning to understand like who I was. Like,
Speaker 1: I still came to the to the facility to put
Speaker 1: in the work. I still worked my ass off in
Speaker 1: the off season. I still went every practice. I watched
Speaker 1: all the film and I knew who the guys were
Speaker 1: doing that with me. Yet we just couldn't quite put
Speaker 1: that together in Arizona. And I still, you know, grateful
Speaker 1: for the bid will so give me that opportunity. You know,
Speaker 1: my standing down in the valley is pretty good. You know,
Speaker 1: I go down there and people take good care, so
Speaker 1: I don't regret any of it. But it was hard
Speaker 1: to lose thirteen games in a season and and b
Speaker 1: and be it take every snap. I took every single
Speaker 1: snap that And that's that's hard. When you're throwing balls,
Speaker 1: when you're down by twenty one, you're going to throw
Speaker 1: some interceptions. So I threw a lot of picks when
Speaker 1: I was trying to just make a play that I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have. But that's okay. I was still I was fighting.
Speaker 2: Where did your where'd your speed and in ability? Your
Speaker 2: running ability come from?
Speaker 1: Speed? Thank you for that. It was really nice of you.
Speaker 1: Mostly fear.
Speaker 2: Life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, there's like speed when you're running on
Speaker 1: a forty yard dash and then there's game speed. And
Speaker 1: so I remember one time LeVar Arrington, I mean Levar's
Speaker 1: big as I mean, he came out close to when
Speaker 1: I was. We played against each other a lot. His
Speaker 1: forty time was like I think he ran in the
Speaker 1: low four sixes, maybe four to five. Mine at the
Speaker 1: combine was four to seven. Yet one time he's chasing
Speaker 1: me and he did not catch me. And that is fear.
Speaker 1: That is me to say no, I don't want to hit.
Speaker 1: So you know, growing up, I was the youngest of
Speaker 1: two older brothers, so I learned real quick how to
Speaker 1: dodge stuff. Like they would throw stuff at me or
Speaker 1: come after me because I wasn't doing what they wanted.
Speaker 1: So I got nifty and shifty and able to move.
Speaker 1: And it was always active. I never sat around riding
Speaker 1: my bike, jumping on the trampoline, climbing trees, throwing rocks
Speaker 1: at anything he wanted to, Like I mean, it was.
Speaker 1: I grew up just active and as far as like
Speaker 1: quickness and all that, my dad was a really good athlete,
Speaker 1: so it was my mom. Although they didn't play a
Speaker 1: lot of sports in an organized way, but my dad
Speaker 1: was a state champ in Idaho a handball for a
Speaker 1: couple of years and in Washington State. So like my
Speaker 1: dad was athletic and he was fast. My brothers were
Speaker 1: both very fast, very good athletes. So man, if it
Speaker 1: wasn't ping pong, we were playing hacky sack, we were
Speaker 1: playing tennis, we were just playing dodgeball, whatever it was.
Speaker 1: We were always doing stuff. So I never I never
Speaker 1: went and trained for quarterbacking. I mean, we were just
Speaker 1: playing ball all the time. My quickness and all the
Speaker 1: shiftiness and all that, Like I said, it's just like
Speaker 1: probably honed that on the playgrounds at Pierce Park Elementary
Speaker 1: School playing playing tackle five hundreds. Man, not let them
Speaker 1: catch me.
Speaker 2: Uh five AFC Championship versus Steelers, opportunity to go to
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, you said earlier, you know, you played
Speaker 2: this game to win a super Bowl. Talk to us
Speaker 2: about that run and then that experienced versus Steelers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was amazing, man, that that season we had.
Speaker 1: I mean to play for an organization like the Broncos,
Speaker 1: who they're in it every year. When I got here,
Speaker 1: the conversation of a Super Bowl was actually legit, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, making the playoffs getting there with that opportunity.
Speaker 1: You know, the first year we made it, got beat
Speaker 1: by Peyton and the Colts. The next year, same thing.
Speaker 1: Then that third year it all came together. We had
Speaker 1: a team we had I mean, there's already a few
Speaker 1: Hall of famers off that team that I was playing with.
Speaker 1: It was tough. It was really tough to lose at
Speaker 1: home to the Steelers when I was right there AFC
Speaker 1: Championship week. When it happens, there's always this little feeling
Speaker 1: of like there's that little teeny bit of like did
Speaker 1: I go? Did I leave too soon? I have tried
Speaker 1: to go a little one more or two more to
Speaker 1: try to get it. But then I'm like, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I got to there. That was That's pretty sweet for
Speaker 1: a kid from Boise, Idaho. That was one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy pounds when I got to Asu. Yeah, I did
Speaker 1: all right. So it was fun. I made a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, great memories and my standing here in Denver.
Speaker 1: You know, the John told me, John Elway told me
Speaker 1: when I got here. If you play hard and you
Speaker 1: go out there every day and you grind and you
Speaker 1: do it during it, it might not be pretty sometimes,
Speaker 1: but when you're done and you're afterwards, they're gonna love
Speaker 1: you forever. And he was not lying. Man, fans here
Speaker 1: treat me so well, and it's a great city to
Speaker 1: have played in. Now I live, I live in the area,
Speaker 1: so very blessed to be here in Colorado.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones denied a link between CTE and football. You
Speaker 2: push back on that, just thoughts. I mean, obviously now
Speaker 2: it's more talked about. You mentioned Junior say how and
Speaker 2: how he took his life, and we're seeing day by
Speaker 2: day from the movie Concussion that Will Smith did and
Speaker 2: it's just more talked about.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Was it something that was talked about while you were
Speaker 2: playing or was this more post career in CTE.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was post career because I can remember times guys.
Speaker 3: Jared been tripping, I'm a cowboy, Frian, I'm Jack k
Speaker 3: J been tripping.
Speaker 1: You know, I've said some choice words about Jerry, and
Speaker 1: I don't I don't take anything back that I say.
Speaker 1: You know, my mom would say maybe you could have
Speaker 1: worded it differently. But a guy with that much influence
Speaker 1: and that much money to say that just seems to
Speaker 1: me like whether CTE is a most people that may
Speaker 1: think that are worried about getting it probably don't even
Speaker 1: know how to say what those CTE stands for chronic
Speaker 1: traumatic encephalopathy. It's this thaying a doctor made up to
Speaker 1: describe what happens your brain when you get either concussed
Speaker 1: or subconcuss and blows over and over and over. It's
Speaker 1: not good for your brain to get smashed like that.
Speaker 1: My thought on it is like, I can't say that
Speaker 1: I don't believe in it because that would really fire
Speaker 1: people up, because it's legit. Like there's people, there's guys
Speaker 1: they analyzed their brains and there's parts that are gone,
Speaker 1: that have disappeared or dead, and that's CTE. It's from trauma.
Speaker 1: Me on the other hand, and what I am now feeling,
Speaker 1: I'm called to and so blessed to have followed this path,
Speaker 1: had friends like Dell and met others like Rashad Evans
Speaker 1: that have been in a brutal sport too, that have
Speaker 1: benefited who's a partner of ours. It's like, here's a
Speaker 1: chance to maybe find something to give these guys hope
Speaker 1: rather than oh man, you better get your concussion settlement,
Speaker 1: get total and permanent, because look what we got to
Speaker 1: deal with. And it's no doubt our bodies are are
Speaker 1: put through more stress the common person. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of humans that are active that have had concussions
Speaker 1: and put their body if they're a construction worker, through
Speaker 1: a lot of damage too. So if with athletes we
Speaker 1: can we join together, we do the right things, we
Speaker 1: do some studies. We're actually we're actually putting together a
Speaker 1: study right now with former players to test functional mushrooms
Speaker 1: and peptides and see if we can reverse cognitive decline
Speaker 1: and physical dysfunction. We got to get data back before
Speaker 1: anybody listens. So if we get the right data back
Speaker 1: and we show we can maybe improve some of these guys'
Speaker 1: cognitive abilities or things they're worried about. Because sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't remember where I put my wallet. Does that mean
Speaker 1: I got CTE or dementia? No, happens. We're not supposed
Speaker 1: to be perfect all the time. But if you're in
Speaker 1: that mode and you're thinking, oh shit, I had twenty
Speaker 1: concussions and I don't remember right now where I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to go, oh no, and that can be a snowball
Speaker 1: that just goes downhill fast. So I want to give
Speaker 1: these guys hope, give them hope that this is nature
Speaker 1: and if I can bring this to you, man, here
Speaker 1: it is, take it. I don't want anything for this.
Speaker 1: I just want you to feel better and have hope
Speaker 1: that we can live a better life, feel better, think clearer,
Speaker 1: and maybe reverse this narrative that we're told that we're
Speaker 1: given and not really given much of an answer for
Speaker 1: through the powers that be. You know, Jerry Jones maybe
Speaker 1: one of those guys to like make a difference. Let's
Speaker 1: let's research this. You got money, Let's put it down,
Speaker 1: Let's have some Let's put it down and study this
Speaker 1: with the clinical trials that we need to prove to
Speaker 1: the rest of them of America that this is legitimate,
Speaker 1: a legitimate way to help people thrive and have health
Speaker 1: and wellness. That's what That's what I'm here to do.
Speaker 3: Where can I get a out of application to be
Speaker 3: one of your lab rats? Y'all?
Speaker 1: Can?
Speaker 3: I will try everything, and y'all, can you know use me?
Speaker 3: And you know I want to sign up.
Speaker 1: Let's do it, man, we will get This is how
Speaker 1: we get there. It's like I'm doing the study. Now
Speaker 1: we get the right numbers. Now we take it out
Speaker 1: and we get the funding, we get the people, and
Speaker 1: if Umbo does well, that's really what we're doing. We're
Speaker 1: a cause driven company. What we want to do is
Speaker 1: take nature and profiteer from it. But we're talking about
Speaker 1: it with the pH profiteer. We're going to get out
Speaker 1: and speak about this so people know we're not afraid
Speaker 1: to speak the truth of how it's helped us. And
Speaker 1: if you want to come into that, that would be awesome,
Speaker 1: because I mean, if I can help you feel better,
Speaker 1: what better thing than my life can I do? That's
Speaker 1: a gift because I used to do it by just
Speaker 1: smiling and signing an autograph. I make a little kid
Speaker 1: go over the moon. Now I can possibly help somebody
Speaker 1: get off the couch, have a little less pain, maybe
Speaker 1: think a little clearer, be all right with like aging gracefully,
Speaker 1: think about longevity and vitality as the same thing together.
Speaker 1: Like let's let's let's picture that future.
Speaker 2: Hm, I love. I mean I just think in closing,
Speaker 2: you know, getting a chance to obviously be a fan
Speaker 2: of a far from you because I didn't know you
Speaker 2: talking to your partner Dale and then what was your
Speaker 2: buddy's name? At the the New Everything the Google.
Speaker 1: Same shame Wizard the Wizard.
Speaker 2: I just love that obviously, the passion you guys speak
Speaker 2: with and the willingness and wanting to help. It's not
Speaker 2: to make a profit, it's to to to live longer.
Speaker 2: You know, Dale's was out there talking to me before
Speaker 2: we came. My goal is to have people living one
Speaker 2: hundred hundred and twenty hundred and fifty years from this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And I just think that's so dope,
Speaker 2: especially in today's day and age, because everything is about
Speaker 2: the bottom line, and you guys are doing it for
Speaker 2: a different reason. And that's why, you know, I wish
Speaker 2: you guys the best with this, because you guys are
Speaker 2: genuinely out here trying to help people and and and
Speaker 2: that's from kids to our grandparents. And just really want
Speaker 2: to commence you guys for your work and thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, along with.
Speaker 2: Jack, I definitely want to test some things out for
Speaker 2: you guys to see if we can help get to
Speaker 2: that to that ultimate goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean thank you. Like I said that,
Speaker 1: having an audience like you're providing to share this story,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what it's about. We can we
Speaker 1: we're doing what we're doing, but the more people hear
Speaker 1: this and not everybody's listening. Not everybody's willing to listen. Once.
Speaker 2: He always saying, once it's a conversation, once it starts
Speaker 2: being a real conversation, I think that's when things start
Speaker 2: to move now that it's a conversation. So this is
Speaker 2: your closing.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, one one thing, Jack.
Speaker 5: After Over at the farm you spoke about you talked
Speaker 5: about the black and brown communities to be affected by
Speaker 5: sicknesses in their environments, whether that be like the Detroit
Speaker 5: situation with water just for people you know in the
Speaker 5: black and brown communities are still maybe apprehensive about mushrooms.
Speaker 5: Can you talk about like how like we have what
Speaker 5: we discussed over on the farmhouse, like they help some
Speaker 5: of the communities who are being sickened by there just
Speaker 5: the environments they are in from either big companies or industry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of chemical runoff and
Speaker 1: toxins that are left over a lot of these big cities.
Speaker 1: And it's not it's not usually where white people are living.
Speaker 1: It's people of color, and they're having a lot of
Speaker 1: sickness and maladies from from these toxins that have been
Speaker 1: dumped into the soil. And there's there's ways to get
Speaker 1: rid of it, you know, scoop it out, take us
Speaker 1: somewhere else, but that uncovers a lot of dust and
Speaker 1: a lot of still more. It's putting it out in
Speaker 1: the air. And this is micro remediation. So we've spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about mushrooms for physical and
Speaker 1: mental health, where we haven't even scratched the surface on
Speaker 1: a lot of people doing the work for micro remediation,
Speaker 1: for cleaning up the water with the use of mycilium,
Speaker 1: or mushrooms like the oyster mushroom that has already shown
Speaker 1: and been gone through trials where it is removing toxins
Speaker 1: and PCBs and diesels from the earth. It's trans biotransmuting
Speaker 1: it back into its body and like cleaning up our soils,
Speaker 1: and so these places where people are subjected to live
Speaker 1: because they are low on the economic scale and they're sick,
Speaker 1: and no one's coming up with any answers. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of these I like to just say, I guess
Speaker 1: they're just fellow mushrooms out there trying to make a difference,
Speaker 1: and they're making materials leather out of out of mushrooms.
Speaker 1: I'm still wanting to make a football out of some
Speaker 1: mushroom leather and see if we can get that on
Speaker 1: the field on Sunday or somehow let them know, like
Speaker 1: there is a way to treat not just humans, but
Speaker 1: all living things with a little more reverence. And we're
Speaker 1: just scratching the surface. Man's that's the exciting part is
Speaker 1: we're just we're just barely stepping into this as a
Speaker 1: as a Western society. And if I you know, whoever's listening,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening, because you know this is the future.
Speaker 1: I think of some health and wellness not only for us,
Speaker 1: but for the for the grandmother Earth that we live on.
Speaker 3: I want to I want to stay in touch with
Speaker 3: you and the Wizard too, because he gave me some
Speaker 3: he educated me on some stuff that have helped my
Speaker 3: daughter with him with loops and stuff like that. So
Speaker 3: I want to stay in touch and get some stuff too.
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, man. And that's like I said, just
Speaker 1: come in you guys for having your Antanna's out and
Speaker 1: paying attention, because like this is this something people need
Speaker 1: to read about out and hear about. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: to be able to chant. I'm just channeling it from
Speaker 1: a higher source, right Now, Mushroom's been around forever. This
Speaker 1: is nothing new, but it is in our culture. So
Speaker 1: thank you guys for coming out here to spend the
Speaker 1: time with this awesome crew. And I think we're going
Speaker 1: to eat some lines made you can't wait tacos that
Speaker 1: were some lines made from the farm.
Speaker 2: There we go, well, Jake, thank you, Dale, thank you
Speaker 2: and the rest of the team for having us out here.
Speaker 2: Definitely looking forward to continuing to follow your guys journey,
Speaker 2: learn some and also you know, medicate as well. So man,
Speaker 2: that's a wrap, Jake Plumber. All the smoke you can
Speaker 2: catch us on where are we at, DraftKings YouTube and
Speaker 2: all the smoke productions you two at.
Speaker 1: The r Peace Love and Mushroom.
Speaker 5: There we go, Rooms,