1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't want it to be a circus. But I 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: got news for you. The clown car is coming because 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: it's not just Hakim Jeffries in this challenger at Chiosa. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: It's Dan Goldman facing a primary challenger. It's Grace mang 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: facing a primary challenger. It's Richie Torres facing a primary challenger. 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: There's going to be a leftist bloodbath to replace Jerry Nadler, 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: who's not retiring. All of the people competing for these 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: seats are going to fall over themselves to be out 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: lefting each other. 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: Good Wednesday morning. 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 4: Nice have you with us on the forty seven Morning Update, 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: And we've got one big story for you, and it. 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: Involves the Epstein files or papers. 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: Republicans and Democrats in a bipartisan way, passing it to 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: expose all of it out of the House of Representatives. 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: There's just one problem with this legislation. 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Story number one, it's all about transparency. 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: That is what President Trump promised when he was elected president. 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: Yet again exposing mud that the government was hiding from 61 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: all of us. We now know that it's moving forward 62 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 4: with the Epstein papers. I call them papers because it 63 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 4: is a lie to say that there is an Epstein file. 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: There are a lot of documents to deal with Jeffrey Epstein, 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: but it is not a file in the way that 66 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 4: it was described before Donald Trump became president. You know 67 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: when the Democrats were trying to weaponize it. Well, now 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: we know we're going to get to see those files 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: or those papers. As a Speaker of the House, Mike 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: Johnson led the way with a House vote in favor 71 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: of disclosing exactly what we have at the DOJ. He 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: stated publicly to press conference, I'm going to vote to 73 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: move this forward. Despite describing the bill as a recklessly 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: flawed bill, Johnson also said that the measure is a 75 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 4: way to demonstrate transparency and there's nothing to hide, specifically 76 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: in the context of responding to allegations that the files 77 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 4: might implicate Donald Trumper be used as a political weapon. 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: Now, Johnson went to the floor of the House. 79 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: And repeatedly called the bill dangerously flawed because he believes 80 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: it lacks sufficient protection for victims, whistle blowers, and innocent 81 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: third parties whose names might appear in the files. He 82 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: criticized how the bill was drafted, for example, pointing out 83 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: that the authors of the discharged petition had signed the 84 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: wrong section of the US Code and that the legislation 85 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: could force the release of child sexual abuse material due 86 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: to imprecise language. Johnson also emphasized that the House cannot 87 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: amend the bill under the discharge petition process, so he 88 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: wants to senate via the Majority Leader John Thum, to 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: make corrections before final passage. He said he's been working 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: with a small army of lawyers on this issue. He 91 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 4: also accused Democrats forcing what he called a political show 92 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 4: vote on this issue and said it was irresponsible how 93 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: it is happening. I want you to hear Speaker Johnson 94 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: in his own words from the House talking about this 95 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: before the vote. 96 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 5: Democrats are using the Epstein tragedy, the unspeakable evils that 97 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 5: this guy committed with his trafficking ring, and all of 98 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 5: the abuses that they that they made these young women 99 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 5: go through. They're using that as a political weapon to 100 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 5: try to distract from their failures as a party and 101 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 5: to try their best to try to high President Trump 102 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 5: somehow into this wretched scandal. The President had nothing to 103 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 5: do with it. He's been very clear and he has 104 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: nothing to hide, and that's why he's endorsed the vote today. 105 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: I suspect this vote will be probably unanimous. But here's 106 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 5: the important point that everybody needs to understand we have 107 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 5: been advocates of maximum transparency, but we have also insisted 108 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 5: that the victims be carefully protected. The Oversight Committee has 109 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 5: been doing extraordinary work, and we've got some of the 110 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: most vigorous advocates on the Republican and Democrat side on 111 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: the Oversight Committee. They've been working in earnest to deliver 112 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 5: transparency for the American people and to do it in 113 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 5: a responsible manner. What do we mean by that, the 114 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 5: bypart is an effort over there is already producing all 115 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: the results that the discharged petition seeks and much much more. 116 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 5: Chairman Comer and all of these advocates over there have 117 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 5: been releasing thousands of documents, for example, from the Epstein estate. 118 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: By the way, in my. 119 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 5: View, that's been the greatest treasure trove of information because 120 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 5: it's yielded for us Epstein's own personal flight logs, his 121 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 5: financial records, his daily calendars, and so much more. But importantly, 122 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 5: none of that was addressed or is addressed, and the 123 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 5: legislation that's being voted on today, the estate files wouldn't 124 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 5: even have been encompassed in that. And so it goes 125 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 5: to show that the Oversight Committee is doing it from 126 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 5: the direct way. From the very beginning, we've been insistent 127 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: that this matter be handled carefully, with the utmost caution 128 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 5: and care for the people who have been harmed. They 129 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 5: should not be made to suffer any longer. We're talking 130 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 5: about real people's lives at stake here, and young victims 131 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 5: who don't want to be dragged into this political game 132 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 5: that could get hurt further. But the Democrats are rushing 133 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 5: the release of thousands of unsubstantiated documents that may be 134 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 5: included in this that are going to be in the 135 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 5: public domain with the passage of this bill. And there 136 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: are serious deficiencies in the legislation that I have noted 137 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 5: at length, and Republicans have to work to address those 138 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 5: deficiencies in the Senate if and when this legislation is advanced. 139 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 5: I stood before the American public today at our press 140 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 5: conference and I explained and tale the dangers of the 141 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 5: discharge petition. We have posted at my website Speaker dot 142 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 5: gov a summary. The legal Council, a small army of 143 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: lawyers put this together. I used to be a federal 144 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 5: court litigator. Many of my colleagues who have spoken today 145 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 5: were we understand the dangers of how this was haphazardly 146 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: drawn up and among them. By the way, mister Speaker, 147 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 5: before I forget seeking AMAS consent to enter into this 148 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 5: document of the record, it is that. It's on the website. 149 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 5: It's entitled how the flaws of HR forty four h 150 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 5: five could revictimize Epstein's victims, create new victims, and damage 151 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: the judicial system. It is dated today, thank you, and 152 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: it summarizes just five or six of the major concerns. 153 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 5: Among them, it fails to fully protect victim privacy, It 154 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: could create new categories of victims. It potentially jeopardizes grand 155 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 5: jury secrecy. It fails to prohibit release of child sexual 156 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 5: abuse materials that are not appropriately defined in the legislation. 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 5: It jeopardizes future federal investigations, and we have national security 158 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 5: currentcerns regarding classified information. We'll put this in the record 159 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 5: because we need the legislative record to reflect what is 160 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 5: the legislative intent behind this vote. I used to litigate cases. 161 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 5: We would litigate federal statutes and whether or not they 162 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 5: could survive, and legislative intent is important, and we need 163 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 5: to say clearly for the record. As a Speaker of 164 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 5: the House, I'm saying to you this legislation that will 165 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 5: pass today is flawed and it must be amended. The 166 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 5: question is why didn't we amend it here before we 167 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 5: passed it because the authors won't allow it because under 168 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: the rules of the House in our discharge petition, they 169 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 5: have to agree to consent for the legislation to be amended, 170 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 5: and they are not doing that. So now we rely 171 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 5: upon our partners in the other chamber to get that done, 172 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 5: and they need to do that. The victims deserve our 173 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 5: utmost respect. In fact, they should be saluted for their courage. 174 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 5: And the young women who have not come forward who 175 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 5: are now some of them are middle h women who 176 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 5: have not come forward, also deserve our respect and they 177 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: deserve to be protected. Republicans support transparency. We want maximum transparency, 178 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: especially when it comes to disclosing the names of anybody 179 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 5: who had anything to do with these evils, anybody who 180 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 5: can inspired with or aid it in any way. Jeffrey Epstein, 181 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 5: They must be brought to justice. We want the bill 182 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: to be amended so it doesn't in at the same time, 183 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 5: violate victim privacy, create new victims, disclose the names of 184 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 5: any whistleblower or informant cause the release of grand jury 185 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 5: materials or child sexual abuse materials or under minor national 186 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 5: security And if and when the Senate takes this up, 187 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 5: we will work with our colleagues over there to make 188 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: sure that these things are corrected. 189 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: I'll I'll just close. 190 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 5: With this simple thought. We've been at this a while, 191 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 5: it's drug on for a while, but it's time for 192 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 5: this to come to light. We are I expect that 193 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 5: I expect that this will be a unanimous vote, and 194 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 5: it will reflect what I think every member in this chamber. 195 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 5: And I'll say this now, at least in recent days, 196 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 5: every member of the chamber on the Democrats side, they 197 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 5: didn't say anything for four years, but they're for maximum 198 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 5: transparency now and so is this side. But we want 199 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 5: to do it in a respectful and careful manner so 200 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 5: that we don't subject innocent people to further harm. And 201 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: that has been the whole thing I told all my 202 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 5: members today. I'll be voting yes on this, and I 203 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 5: suspect almost everyone will. We'll send it to the Senate. 204 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 5: We hope it's corrected. Thank you for the time, I speaker. 205 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: Now you'll beck you listen to what he just said there, 206 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: and it really shows you just how sick the Democratic 207 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 4: Party is. They don't care who they hurt. The Democratic 208 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: Party just wants us to be a political issue. They 209 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: want it to be a political issue. 210 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it again. 211 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: They want it to be a political issue to hurt 212 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: Donald Trump. That's it. That's the whole thing. That's literally 213 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: the whole ballgame. It's the only thing that they care about. 214 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: It's sad because there are flaws. But if you're a Republican, 215 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 4: as the speaker described there, and you vote against this, 216 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: it would be used and weaponized against you. That is 217 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: one of the sad and sick problems of all of this. 218 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: The final point that. 219 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 4: The present made about this is fine, go ahead and 220 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: make it public. Why so it's clear there is nothing 221 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: that we as Republicans are trying to hide. Put it 222 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: all out there so that everyone can see it. 223 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: It's also sad that the. 224 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: Democrats can't even do that the responsible way, and the 225 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: only thing they want to do is try to put 226 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 4: Republicans in a corner and they don't care what victims 227 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 4: they hurt in the process. 228 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update 229 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: with Ben Ferguson. 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