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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon
Speaker 1: Gross welcome live from the s WBC Mortgage living Room
Speaker 1: in Frisco. Yeah, let's go installment of the two thousand
Speaker 1: and twenty season of Hanging with the Boys. I'm joined
Speaker 1: by Nate Newton, Jesse Holly, Kurt Daniels. I am Shannon Gross.
Speaker 1: You will be broadcasting in your space for the next
Speaker 1: forty five minutes talking a little Cowboys RAMS football is back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit about Cowboys offense, Rams defense,
Speaker 1: but a little bit of somewhat breaking news. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's exciting news, but I think it's got
Speaker 1: some implications. I want to get y'all's feedback on it.
Speaker 1: Is Zach Martin restructured his contract. The news came out
Speaker 1: this morning, and there's some reports out there that it's
Speaker 1: to free up some space for DAK. I wanted to
Speaker 1: get y'all's thoughts on that. Kurt, Why would you do
Speaker 1: that this early if you can't really sign Dack till
Speaker 1: next year. Is this kind of sending a message that hey,
Speaker 1: we're working or is what do you think this is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Maybe so. I mean it's it's good. I think it's normal.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, restruction guy's contracts is everyday business now,
Speaker 1: so probably no surprise that it was going to happen
Speaker 1: with Martin at some point. So yeah, I guess they're
Speaker 1: just trying to get their ducks in the road, get
Speaker 1: stuff out of the way. So there was something there's been.
Speaker 1: You know, as soon as this happens, everybody thinks, oh
Speaker 1: they're going to sign a certain safety and here we go.
Speaker 1: But now they they reports this morning and said now
Speaker 1: they're just freeing up space for dak so um. I
Speaker 1: kind of wish they had done this maybe earlier in
Speaker 1: the year and gotten some whole contract out of the way,
Speaker 1: but oh, well, that's what it is. What do you
Speaker 1: guys think, Jesse Nate Nate, Well, uh, I refuse to
Speaker 1: even worry about why they freed it up. It got
Speaker 1: to be some reason, whether it's short term or long
Speaker 1: term why they freed it up. But the issue they
Speaker 1: usually have here man is uh, uh this this contract
Speaker 1: with DAK since we since that's what everybody's thinking. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's only going up, It's only going up. So uh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get involved in that. So I
Speaker 1: know why Jesse waiting to go last, because he's fit
Speaker 1: to go at it. No, I just I just think
Speaker 1: it's a it's a two part deal. I think, yes,
Speaker 1: they're trying to scraums up some change. Uh, they're putting
Speaker 1: their bank for the contract for DAK. But also you
Speaker 1: have to remember I think they're also and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying a specific safety, I'm saying players in general. After
Speaker 1: week one of the season, you can sign veteran guys
Speaker 1: and their contracts aren't guaranteed for the year. See if
Speaker 1: you have a veteran guy on your roster week one,
Speaker 1: his contract is guaranteed that entire year. So there still
Speaker 1: may be some guys out there that they might want
Speaker 1: to go and look at and might want to go
Speaker 1: kick the tires on them, and they're gonna need some
Speaker 1: money to be able to maybe to sign those guys
Speaker 1: after week one. Now it doesn't make their contracts guaranteed.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times you'll have these contracts where
Speaker 1: you come in really low and have a lot of
Speaker 1: incentive that they may have to be able to reach
Speaker 1: through out the season, and you gotta make sure you
Speaker 1: got a little cash in the bank to cover those
Speaker 1: checks that you're gonna right yet you know, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you cheating on us. Why why are you all dressed up?
Speaker 1: What you gotta collar shirt? And for today? Hell? What's
Speaker 1: going on? You know? Unlike you guys man, you know,
Speaker 1: I am the one who actually has a job and
Speaker 1: I have to do work. And so as the director
Speaker 1: of athletics over here at Kingdom Collegiate Academy, we started
Speaker 1: back school on Tuesday. So I'm sitting in my office
Speaker 1: doing this show. Oh okay, nice, Okay, that's that's but
Speaker 1: you know, it's amazing how this safety continues to pop
Speaker 1: up that nobody will call his name, and uh, why
Speaker 1: we're hiding us. Everybody knows who it is. Brother. Uh,
Speaker 1: at this point in time, I would not sign this
Speaker 1: safety and because he's not gonna come cheat. And even
Speaker 1: if we try to wait a week and not deal
Speaker 1: with guarantee moneys, he's still not gonna come cheat. And
Speaker 1: you want to deal with that. But there's also a
Speaker 1: telltale signing this that not only are we not in
Speaker 1: the rush to sign him, nobody body's in the rushing
Speaker 1: to sign like nobody. Like if he was as hot
Speaker 1: as everyone wants him to be and he is the
Speaker 1: next best thing since sliced bread, there are thirty one
Speaker 1: all the teams in this league that are saying, nah,
Speaker 1: we're good. And if you're telling me his talent is
Speaker 1: supposed to be this supreme and this high, there is
Speaker 1: some deeper stuff with this player that other teams are
Speaker 1: seeing the same thing and just saying because they're not
Speaker 1: giving up anything either, They're they're saying, hey, let's go
Speaker 1: give you, you know, extra this actually that. So if
Speaker 1: if he's that good of a talent, why is no
Speaker 1: one else rushing to sign him? Like that should be
Speaker 1: for all the fans that are listening, and we do
Speaker 1: appreciate you all for listening. Sometimes just take a moment,
Speaker 1: take a chill, pillars, think about this. Thirty one other
Speaker 1: football teams in the National Football League are not touching
Speaker 1: this dude right now, and maybe maybe because they want
Speaker 1: to wait a week or whatever. What most teams will
Speaker 1: be like, you know what, if he's that good, we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump into this thing right now before someone else
Speaker 1: gets them with, whether it be our division, whether it
Speaker 1: be a rival, whether it became you know we want
Speaker 1: to compete against. But no other team in the league
Speaker 1: right now has jumped into the et boat to bring him.
Speaker 1: On True's point talking about, you know, freeing up this
Speaker 1: money for Dak kind of getting into our offense now.
Speaker 1: One of the writers for Pro Football Focus says, Dak's
Speaker 1: an MVP contender this year. But oh think you think
Speaker 1: you think this is a kid that's getting ready to
Speaker 1: really explode. And finally we've been talking for two years
Speaker 1: about him taking control of his team. I think this
Speaker 1: is gonna be it. We're gonna start seeing this come Sunday,
Speaker 1: Nate Jess. Right before y'all answer, let me ask you
Speaker 1: this is this. I think we all have an opinion
Speaker 1: whether Dak is this or whether he's that, or whether
Speaker 1: he's poised to be this, or whether it's been the
Speaker 1: system or whether it's been this, that or the other.
Speaker 1: Is this the year that you find out Dak is
Speaker 1: what he is? This year? Like, is this the tell
Speaker 1: tale year that whatever he does this year. This is
Speaker 1: what you can expect the rest of his career or
Speaker 1: are we still going to be in limbo saying well,
Speaker 1: it was in a new system. He's got a new code,
Speaker 1: she's got this, that and the other. What are your
Speaker 1: opinions on that? Yeah? I think this is a year.
Speaker 1: To me, there are no excuses because your offense doesn't
Speaker 1: change for you, Dak. You know, if anything, it gets
Speaker 1: a little bit more wide open. The terminologist they've Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy has come in and adjusted to everything that was
Speaker 1: already here so that Dad could have the luxury of
Speaker 1: not having to learn new verbiage and new language and
Speaker 1: new plays and all that kind of stuff. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: adding his own little wrinkle to certain things, but Mike
Speaker 1: is doing more of the bending than Dak is having
Speaker 1: to do the bending. And my goodness, you can't have
Speaker 1: any more weapons than this. You have three potential thousand
Speaker 1: yard receivers, you have a top three running back in
Speaker 1: the league. You have you know, one of the butting
Speaker 1: tight ends in the league. You can't you literally can't
Speaker 1: ask for anything else barring injury, serious injury to his person.
Speaker 1: You can't ask for anything, any anything else for Dak
Speaker 1: to do. And if what you see this year, I
Speaker 1: think this is going to be the doc that you
Speaker 1: see for the rest of his career. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: give or give or take a few things, but this
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna get. Man. Dak is already a
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback, top twelve quarterback. So we had this
Speaker 1: discussion ever since his kid rookie year, when has he failed?
Speaker 1: The only time this kid has failed is when the
Speaker 1: team has failed around him. Even Aaron Rodgers couldn't pick
Speaker 1: up receivers by committee. All right, So this kid is there.
Speaker 1: He is who he is, and that's a winner and
Speaker 1: a leader of men. Now both owners have said that
Speaker 1: he's your future. Yeah, you are a little slow a
Speaker 1: year or so ago about signing it. Now it is
Speaker 1: caught up with us. But uh, he's he's under contract
Speaker 1: for this year at thirty one point four million dollars.
Speaker 1: It's time to rock and roll and have some fun.
Speaker 1: Dak is who he is, a leader of men. What
Speaker 1: do you think? You know, you hear the quarterbacks talking.
Speaker 1: Roma might even said it too that by the time
Speaker 1: a quarterback really gets the game mentally, his body starts
Speaker 1: breaking down and you know it, it just takes so
Speaker 1: long to get that quarterback position that they just get
Speaker 1: too old. But Dak got such a young start. He's
Speaker 1: been off to a fast start. Do you think now
Speaker 1: he's ready mentally to take that next step that he's
Speaker 1: he's there now, even with the coaching staff. Nah, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Tony talk. That's talking. Yeah, that's Tony talk. That
Speaker 1: ain't you're going. You got a guy in Tampa eighty
Speaker 1: five hundred years old, Aric Rodgers, Eric Rodgers. This he
Speaker 1: was about twenty seven twenty but twenty four twenty five
Speaker 1: before he started. That's Tony talking. Man. I love Tony
Speaker 1: to have my boy, But no, sir, no, sir, you
Speaker 1: got too many quarterbacks that had six said, look at
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. It's too many quarterbacks and hands he says.
Speaker 1: It's still bawling that old man age. Yeah, No, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got you got guy like Ben Roethlisberger, you got
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, you got Drew Brees, you got come on
Speaker 1: and this goes. I mean, but it took him a
Speaker 1: while to learn the game mentally. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: is back there now? Is he at that point? Now
Speaker 1: where he y'all come you know, yeah, like this, you
Speaker 1: at this point in time of the game. Uh, you've
Speaker 1: seen you know, and and he didn't sit long. He
Speaker 1: didn't sit long and had to wait, so he was
Speaker 1: kind of thrust it into this into this situation. So
Speaker 1: you know, you've seen eighty five to ninety percent of
Speaker 1: what defenses looked like. You've seen a couple of defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators and different defensive specialists a couple times times now.
Speaker 1: So there aren't so many things the players change. But
Speaker 1: a cover two is a cover two, a cover four
Speaker 1: is a cover four. Quarters, his quarters has his has
Speaker 1: you know that robbers robber. Those things don't change. And
Speaker 1: you've seen a game enough times over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. As a quarterback, think about it. Nobody on
Speaker 1: this football team, on this current roster has more reps reps,
Speaker 1: game reps. No one. No one has more game reps
Speaker 1: than Dak Prescott, no one, no one. There's no one
Speaker 1: on this offensive roster who has had actual starting game.
Speaker 1: He plays every single down on offense. Every time he
Speaker 1: walks out there for is marking out there, so he's
Speaker 1: getting a chance to see it every single play. He
Speaker 1: gets all the reps in practice, he gets all the
Speaker 1: reps in the games. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: gets all the attention in meetings, he gets all the
Speaker 1: attention and individual meetings, he gets all the attention and
Speaker 1: position meetings. So this is a guy who's everything is
Speaker 1: predicated for him. He's seen you five. You've seen enough
Speaker 1: reps this is this is You're not nothing that you're
Speaker 1: going to see as far as coverages is going to be, like, well,
Speaker 1: I've never seen that before. You've got enough reps in
Speaker 1: to know what you're going up against, especially against those
Speaker 1: those teams who've had some of the same kind of
Speaker 1: coaches on staff. And they may they may trick you
Speaker 1: once or twice a game, but you will said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got that right, Yeah, you shrugged that off, and
Speaker 1: you just hope at that one time it wasn't the
Speaker 1: interception or it wasn't a fumble. You know, he's saying, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you had your shot at me. Now you won't get
Speaker 1: it again. But that's the football. Yeah, all right, right,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to see Dak shrug off. Aaron Donald, Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is, like Jesse said, Like Jesse said, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have players that's gonna change the game, right, Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald can change the game because it ain't that against
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, it's that is Aaron Donald against Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know Dad can't control that. Yeah. Sorry. The
Speaker 1: thing the thing when I when I think of Dad
Speaker 1: for my personal deal y'all. You know, I don't get
Speaker 1: into the contracts. People get mad at me when I
Speaker 1: do my regular radio show. Oh man, you don't never
Speaker 1: want to talk about the contract? No, I don't. If
Speaker 1: Dad was raised in saying and he was going back
Speaker 1: and forth and the ownership, that gives us every right
Speaker 1: to just go back and forth and have fun with it.
Speaker 1: But here's a guy. Mothers passed away, brothers passed away coronavirus.
Speaker 1: What did he do? He put a fifty five yard
Speaker 1: football feelings back? Y'all say, man, let's gonna play football.
Speaker 1: Is that a guy that's worried about a contract even
Speaker 1: though inside as a human being, that's nature, But his
Speaker 1: outward look is like, man, I'm just hit the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean for the datas Cowboys. And so if this
Speaker 1: thing ain't don't get done, it don't get done. But
Speaker 1: I don't know who. I don't know who's your next savior.
Speaker 1: We brought up Aaron Donald. Let's get into some Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald talk. Also, Jalen Ramsey just signed. Jalen Ramsey is rich,
Speaker 1: He's borderline wealthy like this man just signed a deal
Speaker 1: the most highly paid defensive back in the history of
Speaker 1: the NFL. Let's get into what this Cowboys offense is
Speaker 1: going to be looking at on that Rams defense when
Speaker 1: they travel out to La this weekend. All of that
Speaker 1: and so much more when we come back on Hango
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Speaker 1: in with the bulls, Kurt, Oh, Lulu, Shannon go. Hey,
Speaker 1: Shannon's not getting the words. So apparently Shannon is off
Speaker 1: duing god knows what right now. So hey, we're back.
Speaker 1: At least three of us are back, and we want
Speaker 1: to talk a little RAMS defense. We've all been we
Speaker 1: know who's circled on this, we know who's who's the
Speaker 1: heart of the matter. How are we gonna stop him?
Speaker 1: How do we stop him? How do we stop Aarondonald?
Speaker 1: Here's the funny thing about this when you look at
Speaker 1: these two teams, and specifically for the Rams, just like
Speaker 1: I talked about this yesterday, Nate talking about being on
Speaker 1: even playing fields, and about we got new coaches. Yes,
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh is a main stay there, but their defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator, their special team coach all brand new
Speaker 1: to their football team. Remember they had Wade Phillips last year. Yes,
Speaker 1: who kind of knew, you know, Jason Garrett a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, familiar. But look at a guy like Brandon Stanley,
Speaker 1: who is the new defensive coordinator. They're gonna being at
Speaker 1: three four and so what you're gonna look at is
Speaker 1: you're gonna look at a lot of Aaron Donald face
Speaker 1: up over the center, eating up two blocks. But this
Speaker 1: is a defensive coordinator who's had the likes of Von
Speaker 1: Miller because he's a he's a Vic Fangio uh Fangio disciple,
Speaker 1: So he was with him in Chicago, he had Khalil Mack.
Speaker 1: He with them in Denver, he had Von Miller. So
Speaker 1: now look at to what those guys had been able
Speaker 1: to do with their edge rushers and not having Loud Collins. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're focused on the beast and the monster in the
Speaker 1: middle in Aaron Donald, but these this coach has been
Speaker 1: one who is looked at, how can I get my
Speaker 1: edge rudgers off, so they're gonna eat up the inside,
Speaker 1: but they're also going to focus on We're gonna bring
Speaker 1: some pressure to dack off the edges, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: use different styles and different players to attack that right
Speaker 1: tackle position because it's gonna be a lot of one
Speaker 1: on one. It's gonna be a lot of one one
Speaker 1: because you gotta you gotta dedicate two guys that center
Speaker 1: in that guard or somebody got to help out with
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald in the middle, especially starting off with the
Speaker 1: you know, with Joe Lune at center, that was going
Speaker 1: to be kind of my question is if you got
Speaker 1: to help out Cam Irving on the right tackle, how
Speaker 1: do you help out Connor Williams in the middle. It's
Speaker 1: schemes and things that you have to do. Is everybody's
Speaker 1: involved in this, you know, the quarterbacks, the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: It's all about time and you open the game up
Speaker 1: with quick passing, but as the game go on, you
Speaker 1: got to get into your intermediate routes, into into your
Speaker 1: longer balls. But uh, it's just a rhythm thing. I
Speaker 1: mean on how you're going to handle these guys, and
Speaker 1: I think that they will have Mark Michael Brocker's and
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald at the two defensive end positions, and then
Speaker 1: they'll have Sebastian days as that middle guy. But what
Speaker 1: they'll do is they gonna they go all everybody always
Speaker 1: talk about the three four. What it does is give
Speaker 1: you better lineback and play. But they're gonna slide Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald over one of them guards. That's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get a reduced look, bring that defensive end
Speaker 1: down on one of those guards. Then they're gonna bring
Speaker 1: an outside lineback and put him as a stand up
Speaker 1: defensive men and outside they're gonna attack you if you can.
Speaker 1: If you cannot run the ball, the way to defeat
Speaker 1: the three or four is you have to you have
Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball. Because what a
Speaker 1: three or four does is you look at how the
Speaker 1: Stills of the past have always done. It is they
Speaker 1: stop you earlier early on the run, so they can
Speaker 1: always have those four or five guys coming at you.
Speaker 1: The same with Wave Philip. So uh, this is a
Speaker 1: funny situation. Whereas the guy that has to grow the most,
Speaker 1: it's Connor Wiggins. Connor Wiggins has to be a four
Speaker 1: grown bulldog this year you know, we gotta we were
Speaker 1: gonna win him off that milk, and now he's got
Speaker 1: to eat straight meat because this is all I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that decide right, you got you big dog food. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you get what I'm saying. Jesse, You
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. Kurt, this this thing is big man.
Speaker 1: And also in your run packages, Nate, you can use
Speaker 1: things like you know, the wham plays where you kind
Speaker 1: of let some of those guys rush up field and
Speaker 1: come across and wham. Yeah, do some counter running, do
Speaker 1: some things where you're now you know, starting one way
Speaker 1: and coming back to other so that now those guys
Speaker 1: can start one way and come back in the blocks.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys will be able to win that.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna line up and smash you, you know,
Speaker 1: come at you forward. I don't think the Cowboys can
Speaker 1: win that battle. I think now being able to use
Speaker 1: those sometimes seeing those two running backs in the backfield
Speaker 1: and now you know, they got to make a decision
Speaker 1: on how things are going to go. Get to those edges. Um.
Speaker 1: I said this a lot last year, coming out in
Speaker 1: this game. Starting quick, get some no huddle offense, get
Speaker 1: those guys breathing heavy. Get those guys know, kind of
Speaker 1: having to work at a faster place just because we
Speaker 1: have some you know, new coaches. Defensively, they have some
Speaker 1: new coaches as well, so their communication there, their personnel
Speaker 1: getting guys in and out the game, they are liable
Speaker 1: to have some some mess ups too. So if we
Speaker 1: can speed the game up on that defense a little bit,
Speaker 1: now you get those guys you know, out of breath,
Speaker 1: You get them a little bit of rotation, because just
Speaker 1: like us, you know, they a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: are still working their way back into commission. So if
Speaker 1: you can come out early, get get them on their heels,
Speaker 1: you be attacking them. Run some counters, run some whams,
Speaker 1: get some things on the outside, quick passes, speed the
Speaker 1: tempo up and then make them have to react to
Speaker 1: you instead of you reacting to them. And now you
Speaker 1: have them on their heels. What do you guys, as
Speaker 1: former players, what do you think position wise? Is that
Speaker 1: the biggest I guess disadvantage for not having preseason games
Speaker 1: and not being able to run at games, feed and
Speaker 1: have that contact. What position do you think we're gonna
Speaker 1: notice the most? Is it? Is it defensive? Line because
Speaker 1: they haven't really been able to go all out? Is
Speaker 1: it offensive line because they haven't been able to absorb
Speaker 1: those hits? Is that your dbs? Like, who do you
Speaker 1: think we're gonna notice the you know, the biggest disadvantage
Speaker 1: on the field on with Jesse. If you come out
Speaker 1: and dictate tempo offensively, you can you can wear I
Speaker 1: don't care. Ain't nobody defense that good if you can
Speaker 1: dictate tempo and just out of saying, these guys Majard
Speaker 1: have been in the league at least four years, so
Speaker 1: they've been removed from college at least four years. So
Speaker 1: they used to practice it and going straight to a game.
Speaker 1: Now we wham Brockers, we wham Aaron Donald, we wham
Speaker 1: the big guy Sebastad. They in the middle and keep tempo,
Speaker 1: you know, our offensive line to catch their breath before
Speaker 1: their defensive line, can I promise, because they're gonna be
Speaker 1: trying to shuffle in and out and boy, like, I
Speaker 1: tell people a lot of time when I used to
Speaker 1: play defense the US to be like, hey man, I'd
Speaker 1: rather just stand out here than run them thirty five
Speaker 1: yards to the sideline. Okay, So trying to catch your
Speaker 1: Brojes that oh man, and don't don't think all the
Speaker 1: smart offensive coordings are thinking. Just like with Jesse present
Speaker 1: to you people out there that's listening, dictate Temple offensively,
Speaker 1: you don't worry about offensive line to getting tired because
Speaker 1: if they can run the ball and sprinkling and pass,
Speaker 1: you kill them. You kill them. Do you think because
Speaker 1: there wasn't a preseason, we'll see a little bit of
Speaker 1: a scale down offense or will it be full go?
Speaker 1: Not for not for the Cowboys, he shouldn't be, Not
Speaker 1: for New Orleans, not for Kansas City. The teams that
Speaker 1: have been there with their corps players special offense. It's
Speaker 1: like four or five teams that got to the advantage,
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, the New Orleans Saints, the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: People that know their offenses and a personnel has to
Speaker 1: change that much, they got advantage. They can get tempo going.
Speaker 1: And to your answer your question, Shannon, I think the secondary.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing about the secondary is not necessarily about,
Speaker 1: you know, conditioning wise, it's the communication and being able
Speaker 1: to communicate when things are alive and you don't have
Speaker 1: that advantage, you know, not having a pieces in games
Speaker 1: and However, you're gonna run through it in practice when
Speaker 1: you get into those real life situations and the and
Speaker 1: and the and the bullets are real and you know
Speaker 1: it ain't no blow the whistle, come back, line up,
Speaker 1: do it again. I think that that's the biggest part
Speaker 1: of getting that communication out, especially when you you know,
Speaker 1: for for the Cowboys, and you know you call it
Speaker 1: I candy or whatever you want. When teams start that motion,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, a zip or a zag or
Speaker 1: an orbit motion, and you start you start shifting and
Speaker 1: changing different things, that's when that defense has to make
Speaker 1: all these different calls and and change it. Oh no,
Speaker 1: we shifted, And that's when you can catch them out
Speaker 1: of out of position and hit them for a big
Speaker 1: play because when you're shifting and changing, especially because there's
Speaker 1: nothing that they can see. They haven't seen anything. Practices
Speaker 1: haven't been recorded and put out there, prices and games
Speaker 1: hasn't been a bit recorded and put out there, so
Speaker 1: early on there's nothing that they will be able to
Speaker 1: really see and key on and go off of. You
Speaker 1: start shifting and motioning all that kind of stuff, you
Speaker 1: can catch that secondary in their shifts and trying to
Speaker 1: change coverage and all that kind of stuff and somebody
Speaker 1: blow a coverage you I'm expecting that, personally bad football
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. I'm exacting. I am like tackling.
Speaker 1: I think tackling is going to be a big issue
Speaker 1: the first few weeks, just because a lot of teams,
Speaker 1: Cowboys being one of them, didn't really have live tackling
Speaker 1: and their practices. The Rams reported ly did have tackling
Speaker 1: drills during camp as former players. How big of a
Speaker 1: difference does full contact practices with tackling? How big of
Speaker 1: a difference is that going to make? And or y'all
Speaker 1: like me, do you expect to see bad football for
Speaker 1: a few weeks? Well, you gotta understand, even when we
Speaker 1: had preseason games, we had to wait two or three
Speaker 1: games for teams to get themselves into football shape. It
Speaker 1: was the reason I think would escalate maybe ten to
Speaker 1: twenty percent more. Jesse, you can disagree if you feel
Speaker 1: is that you talk about the soreness that you truly
Speaker 1: gonna feel after that, especially a physical game, whereas the
Speaker 1: Rams are gonna try to be physical with our offensive
Speaker 1: line and vice versa. After that game, brother, they will
Speaker 1: have to have ice tubs on the planes. They may
Speaker 1: ever get one. The jail befit the two bombers to
Speaker 1: just put ice tubs because for the first two or
Speaker 1: three weeks, man, it's gonna be some physical football because
Speaker 1: coach is gonna be trying to get a jump on
Speaker 1: the rest of the league. I think how you start
Speaker 1: this year can mean a lot. I mean it may
Speaker 1: not be the tail tale for every team, but how
Speaker 1: you start this year can mean a lot for momentum.
Speaker 1: And if you can get through these first four five
Speaker 1: weeks without a major injury because your immune sister are
Speaker 1: gonna drop and the way they talk about this, corbet
Speaker 1: is supposed to come back. I don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you don't want to be beat down to the
Speaker 1: point where you get sick of something. So you got
Speaker 1: to take care of yourself after each of every game.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're a young ACNN, I'm gonna shrugged
Speaker 1: it a go see that trainer and get yourself healthy
Speaker 1: because that that is cdee Lamb will be more adjested
Speaker 1: to this than us. The young guys, rookies will be
Speaker 1: more adjested because they're used to going boom. Even though
Speaker 1: it's not against grown men that they're gonna be praying again.
Speaker 1: They're used to just going straight into a game of
Speaker 1: this ilk. Do you think that you know you're talking about,
Speaker 1: they're being bad foot football to begin with. Do you
Speaker 1: think that because of that, maybe the offense may flow
Speaker 1: more through Zeke. You said earlier that the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: battle the Rams front, they're gonna have to establish a
Speaker 1: running game because the passing games maybe more complicated. Do
Speaker 1: you think Zeke will have a bigger role in the
Speaker 1: early stages of the season. I don't think so, because
Speaker 1: what I think is you got a coach that is
Speaker 1: allowing his offensive coordinator with a libert of input from
Speaker 1: himself in situations, to run this offense, so they can
Speaker 1: do whatever they want. You know, once they find a rhythm,
Speaker 1: and I hope it don't take a quarter or quarter
Speaker 1: and a half because out of favorite defense. Then but
Speaker 1: if they can come out and then find a rhythm
Speaker 1: and get some scores early, then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they dictating everything, and so now you can do what
Speaker 1: you want. You don't have to really open up a
Speaker 1: game with Zeke running the ball, because the threat of
Speaker 1: the pay action passed with him is just as great.
Speaker 1: As him running the ball as long as you complete
Speaker 1: the passes early. Yeah, Jalen Rams is just you know,
Speaker 1: twenty three million dollars strong per year. Here, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: he trying to shout out on one side of the field,
Speaker 1: but we can double move him and am in him up.
Speaker 1: They have him. You know what I'm saying, What don't
Speaker 1: you make John. I think this team is gonna come
Speaker 1: out firing on all cylinders. I think they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: throw caution to the wind. If you've heard Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: and his press or today, you know he talked about it.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, he looked at the way the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: how they started strong this year and then they had
Speaker 1: those bad they had those bad downs. They had some
Speaker 1: good ups, but they had really bad downs. And it's
Speaker 1: going to be imperative with to what Shannon was saying,
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some ugly football early on. You
Speaker 1: can't be in that category like you use early games
Speaker 1: in the season because you're gonna need them come late
Speaker 1: in the season when guys are beat up. I think
Speaker 1: injuries are gonna be at an all time high this year.
Speaker 1: So it will behoove you not to lose early football
Speaker 1: games because they're gonna come back, you know, whether that
Speaker 1: be for the division or for home field advantage or
Speaker 1: whatever it may be later on in the year. So
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna come out firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, like, say what you want about freakye Mike,
Speaker 1: if you're playing this league or McCarthy both, okay, both.
Speaker 1: If you're playing this league, there's an ego about you.
Speaker 1: If there there's a there's a there's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a little as coach Gary, a little ish in
Speaker 1: your neck about you. You can't be in this league
Speaker 1: if it's not. And you think Mike McCarthy being off
Speaker 1: a year being fired, that he's not waiting. He's chopping
Speaker 1: at the bitch himself to get back out there to
Speaker 1: show that you know what, you know, what they did
Speaker 1: to me in Green Bay was was what's what's bad?
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been fired. But now that I'm back,
Speaker 1: now that i'm here, I'm getting ready to show the
Speaker 1: league while I want to Super Bowl on twenty attend
Speaker 1: and why I'm one of the best coaches in the league.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna be chopping at the bitch as well,
Speaker 1: and I think this team is gonna just come out
Speaker 1: firing all on all cylinders and really try to come
Speaker 1: out there and put their stamp on it and let
Speaker 1: them put the league on notice. The Dallas Cowboys of
Speaker 1: old is gone. The new way and the new things
Speaker 1: of the Gallas Cowboys are here. And it's led by me,
Speaker 1: Sir freak, Sir, Freaky Mike. That's what he's gonna say.
Speaker 1: He's gonna say, this thing is being led by me.
Speaker 1: The old Cowboys who are front runners and who couldn't
Speaker 1: finish games and who are predictable. Get that out your head,
Speaker 1: get that out your mind. It's a new look. It's
Speaker 1: a new day, and he's gonna show it Sunday night,
Speaker 1: prime time for the world to see. Freaky Mike is
Speaker 1: in the building. Let's talk about you. Yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 1: he's got him going to the Super Bowl. Jan we
Speaker 1: got we got uh, we got like twelve minutes left
Speaker 1: and Jesse, let's just let me, you and Kurt talk,
Speaker 1: all right. You want to you want Jesse? Hey, you
Speaker 1: want you want? You want? You want Jesse's Mike to
Speaker 1: magically stop working again, like when we come back from
Speaker 1: the sea. Just season man, bring it here bringing it, bro,
Speaker 1: he is bringing grace. Hey, that's a good point. Let's
Speaker 1: take our last break when we come back. That's something
Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about the mentality of this team
Speaker 1: because we haven't been able to be in the building, so,
Speaker 1: you know, being around the coaches. I have not not really,
Speaker 1: I mean a couple of days, but you're you're not
Speaker 1: around the players, you're not eating lunch with those guys,
Speaker 1: you're not in the locker room, so the vibe, you
Speaker 1: don't really know you know, what's going on, how the
Speaker 1: players are thinking, what this coaching staff is mentally, how
Speaker 1: they're preparing them. I want to get y'all's thoughts if
Speaker 1: you've heard anything about what the guys are thinking, what
Speaker 1: the mental state of this team is going to be
Speaker 1: with the new coaching staff coming in heading into the season.
Speaker 1: And we might have a couple of things that we'll
Speaker 1: let Jesse talk about when we come back. I'll hanging
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Speaker 1: Let I might even do a striptease. WHOA, Okay, you
Speaker 1: know you know what I got? You know I gotta
Speaker 1: build right then again, Just I'm telling you I've been
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Speaker 1: you can see it through the dress shirt. Can You
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Speaker 1: a joke. That's a reality you know about it? Go
Speaker 1: ahead on them? What are we talking about him? Fellas?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oh okay, okay, my bad. Let's talk a
Speaker 1: little football for the last few minutes of the show.
Speaker 1: What have you guys heard? Like I said, you know,
Speaker 1: we Kurt and I have not been in the building obviously.
Speaker 1: You guys haven't really been in the building either. Have
Speaker 1: you heard of anything from your contacts and you're you're
Speaker 1: you know, you're tuned in and you're plugged into the
Speaker 1: team about the mentality or about the messages. You know,
Speaker 1: we used to walk into the Star and there were
Speaker 1: there were signs everywhere and it was about the team,
Speaker 1: the team, the team and fight and all this messaging.
Speaker 1: We haven't been around the building to see what what
Speaker 1: the messages are and how the players are receiving those.
Speaker 1: Have you heard anything about what's going on like off
Speaker 1: the field with this coaching staff and these players. What
Speaker 1: I know is uh, And maybe it's because they're there's
Speaker 1: a new coach in town or new sheriff as everybody
Speaker 1: was saying town. But those practices are much more upbeat
Speaker 1: and intense. And I've seen this and uh, there's no music,
Speaker 1: you know where everybody would you know, pay attention in
Speaker 1: this right here? Clinton? How hot Dickson? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: just using them as an example because if you don't,
Speaker 1: you will be out of here. You know, guys are
Speaker 1: why are you doing that? Jessive? While you doing that?
Speaker 1: Because clearly he wasn't. But I'm just saying these guys
Speaker 1: and Chris me tell you he's been to every practice.
Speaker 1: These guys are more tentative. They don't they don't, they
Speaker 1: don't play around. And maybe because there's a new voice,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's not a lot of talking back.
Speaker 1: I'm out of Uh, what do you think the coach says,
Speaker 1: the player does or the player tries to do. So.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but
Speaker 1: I knew what was going on out there. And I
Speaker 1: love the fact that their quarterbacks, each one of them
Speaker 1: doing training camp before practice, and then their warm ups
Speaker 1: had a chance to run their offense, you know, and
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks had a chance to be receivers. It's
Speaker 1: it's a difference when you at the helm and you
Speaker 1: are at those positions and you're seeing how it supposed
Speaker 1: to be, and you you get a look from both ends. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's not a game, it's not a high intense practice,
Speaker 1: but to see that in the field, that gives you
Speaker 1: a little bit more knowledge of how the offense is ran.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing I got from you. Nice Jesse Jes.
Speaker 1: You look good in your shirt. I mean, say, supperside
Speaker 1: flexing your most talking because Kurk don't say nothing, Kurt
Speaker 1: im when they're laughing. Kurt started laughing. I asked you, guys,
Speaker 1: they didn't throw us at all. I love how when
Speaker 1: it gets quiet, Kurt gets always gets nervous and he
Speaker 1: goes it gets quiet, and it Kurt's oh there's dead
Speaker 1: are and he goes like, I didn't want to just
Speaker 1: leave Nate hang and Ipoly Hey man, hey, hey, let
Speaker 1: me say this right quick, like I like, I like
Speaker 1: Chris be set up. You see, they got a big
Speaker 1: old head of Zeke and who is the other big
Speaker 1: head of of Dak? But why they tried to make
Speaker 1: Zeke heads smaller than Dak and Zeke heads still bigger?
Speaker 1: And then you see where they amus try to look.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Jesse, you're looking good, brother, Thank you, man,
Speaker 1: looking good? Thank you? Look how you trying to buff
Speaker 1: of his chest? Have you heard any whispers out of
Speaker 1: the star? Professionalism? That's the biggest thing about this team.
Speaker 1: They're going about it a very very professional way. Yes.
Speaker 1: Remember when I talked with coach McCarthy back in that
Speaker 1: March or may or whatever it was, and he talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, just the different level of accountability and respect,
Speaker 1: and you see it, you see it, and you hear
Speaker 1: it through the little whispers about it. They're going about
Speaker 1: this in a more professional way. Guys aren't just giving
Speaker 1: those spots anymore. And every single day you don't have
Speaker 1: to show up in practice and still be able to
Speaker 1: keep your spot. Guys are having to go out there daily, daily,
Speaker 1: and that's not just on the practice field, that's in
Speaker 1: the meeting room, that's in the weight room, that's in
Speaker 1: the cafeteria. Guys are having to go out every single
Speaker 1: day improve that they're worthy of that position. And it's
Speaker 1: the level of competition, to Nate's point, has gone up.
Speaker 1: Guys are competing. Intensity has risen. You can't just go
Speaker 1: out there now and think, oh, because I started here
Speaker 1: last year, that's gonna be my spot now, because this
Speaker 1: coach then ain't with that, and they're saying, no, you
Speaker 1: won't have to earn it every single day, every single week.
Speaker 1: And if you think just because you played there this
Speaker 1: week that I won't replace you next week, you have
Speaker 1: a you're sadly mistaken. You had another thing coming. And
Speaker 1: so that's the biggest thing that I've I've heard from
Speaker 1: It's just a level of professionalism that's been that's been
Speaker 1: going on in practice that it hadn't been in the past.
Speaker 1: And what it says is we don't have captains for
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks. We have captains. Every week. Somebody may come
Speaker 1: out and lift their game in practice that week, and
Speaker 1: you get to build captain. I like that because coach
Speaker 1: john c used to do that, earned to be the captain.
Speaker 1: Let guys look at you and see through your leadership
Speaker 1: of being a good practice player and doing what's right
Speaker 1: own and off the field each week gives you that
Speaker 1: ability to build captain because I was a captain like
Speaker 1: eight or nine times every season because I was showing lobbying.
Speaker 1: That's jo I didn't know. That's how Johnson did it.
Speaker 1: Pipins every week every week, my friend. Yes, sir, And
Speaker 1: like I said, I was guaranteed to get me Coach.
Speaker 1: I'm playing the big game this week, the captain doll. Well,
Speaker 1: fella us we are. We are up against it. Before
Speaker 1: we go, I got a message for all of our
Speaker 1: listeners out there. This is for whoever stole my copy
Speaker 1: of Microsoft Office. I will find you and find out
Speaker 1: who did it. You have my word. You have My
Speaker 1: wife heard you. That was my dad joke for the day.
Speaker 1: Microsoft have my words. You shut us down. Man here,
Speaker 1: Hey Nate, thanks for bringing it, man Jesse, go educate
Speaker 1: the youth of America. Do something valuable with your time
Speaker 1: instead of wasting it with us. Kurt Nice, Kurt nice. Thanks.
Speaker 1: We will see y'all tomorrow where we will talk about
Speaker 1: Boys defense, rams offense, and so much more. Heading into
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