1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: and Gatty and he Armstrong and Eddy. Hi, everybody. It 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: was a year ago today that one of the most 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: expensive natural disasters in US history started. 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: January seventh, twenty twenty five, ten thirty am. 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: The smoke and the ash is so thick you can't 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: even see. Everything is on fire. 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: Fire breaks out in the Pacific Palisades. 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Oh No. 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: Hours later, another ignites in Altadena under a transmission tower. 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: This man nearly. 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: Catches fire trying to save someone inside. Thirty one killed, 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: twelve thousand homes, destroyed, you. 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Right here that we built here to just be gone 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: in ours. It's just an awful feeling to lose everything 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: that you've had all those years. Twelve thousand homes. And 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I remember texting with the friends in both of those 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: locations who were fleeing for their lives at the time. 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable loss, but we will rebuild maybe someday. 21 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: Despite no rain for eight months and a dire weather forecast, 22 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: Mayor Karen Bass leaves the country. The water department drained 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: a major reservoir above the Palisades for a maintenance project. 24 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: Firefighters are literally using the garden hose to fill up 25 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: their truck, and the fire chief, despite claims to the contrary. 26 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: We pre deployed the resources in very, very calculated ways 27 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: throughout the city. 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: Staffed and pre deployed just three of more than forty 29 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: available engines, while seventy five more set idle in the mat. 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: There were so many places still standing on the eighth 31 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: and no fire trucks to put them out. 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: Sue Pasco lost her home in the Palisades. 33 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: It's been a whole year of cover ups. Wow, oh yeah, 34 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: where to even start with it. We don't do a 35 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: good job, I guess because we're so comfortable and safe 36 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: in this country, we really don't do a good job 37 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: of holding I can't say people's feet to the fire 38 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: in this story, holding people accountable when screw ups happen, 39 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: we just don't. Part of it is our attention span 40 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: we move on to the next thing. Part of it 41 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: is just an ingrained uh you know, whichever side it 42 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: is politically, their side, rallies round them until you can 43 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: until everybody's attention span moves on to the next thing. 44 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: Or something, but we don't do a good job of 45 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: holding people accountable for failures of the state. Right right. 46 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: You mentioned one aspect of this in which the priorities 47 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: are upside down, and that's bureaucracy. To protect bureaucracies and 48 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: not people from being burned to death and their. 49 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: Houses burning down. 50 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: Now the other thing is in this is a bit 51 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: of a tangent, but I'm distracted. I'm absolutely sure there 52 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: are some great female firefighters in the world, but this 53 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: is California we're talking about, and of course the fire 54 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: chief is a woman. 55 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: Of course, of the very pretty. 56 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: Small percentage of firefighters in the world and cops in 57 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: the world, it seems in your big blue cities it 58 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: is always a woman, and if possible, a woman of 59 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: color who heads up the department, never mind whether they're 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: an ass kicking administrator who won't take no for an 61 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: answer and protects the people, because that's their job. 62 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Now it's a DEI. 63 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: Hire And to those one hundred percent qualified women in 64 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: those I apologize, But that's the perception. 65 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: That forms when you have DEI. Of course it does. 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: Anyway, back to the main thread of the thing. William 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: Lauginess for Fox News goes on. 68 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: So the cover ups that she is referring to, among 69 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: other things, is number one, the fire that ignited the 70 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: Palisades fire. They never put it out. They didn't use 71 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: bulldozers because they were worried about an endangered plant. They 72 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: pulled up hoses while the fire was still smoldering. But 73 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: most importantly, there was this after action report. They have 74 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 2: now admitted. The city admitted that they watered it down. 75 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: They changed critical elements of it that were critical of 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: the agency to save people at the top from embarrassment. 77 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: How do you like that, Well, you either put up 78 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: with that or you don't. Voters and people put up 79 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: with that if it's their party. 80 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: You've almost got to have an independent, private commission get 81 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: to the bottom of it, and the bureaucrats get zero 82 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: zero right to addit the reports, or just have a 83 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: private organization run your fire department and if they suck 84 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: you fire them. 85 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: And even if you could put together this commission, independent 86 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: commission and they really laid out the truth, do you 87 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: think people would vote differently and you'd end up with 88 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: a different crew in charge, or would they say I 89 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: hate Trump, I'm gonna continue to vote Temocrat. Things have 90 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: to get really really stupid. Is that what you're implying. Well, 91 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: voters are partisan, man, and it takes a lot to 92 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: get them to change. I use San Francisco as an example. 93 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: I spent a couple of nights there before Christmas, my 94 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: son's birthday. We stayed at the nice hotel there in 95 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: Union Square, and it's fantastic. It's like San Francisco used 96 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: to be. A lot of the stores aren't there anymore. 97 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: But I didn't see a single homeless person. I mean, 98 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: but that city had to get so bad before voters 99 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: were willing to try something different. I mean it. It 100 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: was ridiculous how far it had to go before voters 101 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: were willing to try something different. And then the something 102 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: different was able to improve things very quickly with some 103 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: more reasonable policies, because policy does matter. But I don't 104 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: know how bad things would have to get in LA 105 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: before they'd be willing to try something different. 106 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: I'm curious to hear this as well. This is Rick 107 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: Caruso and somebody else on CNN's The Story is talking 108 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: about the same story. 109 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 5: This fire we know now was completely preventable. 110 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: Just think about that now. 111 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 5: Some of us were talking about that months and months 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: and months ago, and we were sort of looked at like, no, 113 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 5: it was the wind. You couldn't have stopped it. The 114 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 5: Elm fire on January one was never. 115 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 4: Put out right sore was there was? For people that 116 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: don't fillow this that closely. There was a smaller fire 117 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 4: that happened on January first. Some firefighters said we need 118 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: to stay behind, and we're worried about the hotspot if 119 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: they were pulled away from that pulled abandoned site. There 120 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: was no pre deployment to the Pacific Palisades when in 121 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: the forecast was eighty to one hundred miles and out wins. 122 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 4: Fire explodes in Pacific Palisades. There's no firefighters there. Eventually 123 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: the firefighters get there and eventually they run out of water. 124 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: And then, as I interjected in the middle of it, 125 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: the moment this happened, Gavin Newsom was on TV saying 126 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: this was climate change. 127 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. No either, it's 128 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: just it's depressing. 129 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah it is. I'm depressed. That's your evidence. 130 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: It's depressing. 131 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it might come down to 132 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: our current partisan situation where just nobody gives an inch 133 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: of on their side. Ever, So if your side to 134 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: something that's demonstrably awful, uh, you's still you're still not 135 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: going to go. You know, you're not going to be 136 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: one of those people. Right. 137 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: Well, you feel like you're in a never ending war 138 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: against the evil doers on the other side, So there's 139 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: no time for a court martial during war of somebody 140 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: on your side who's plainly a baddie. So you just 141 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: let it go till later. But later never comes because 142 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: you're always at war. And it's worth pointing out. Look, 143 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: there's a lot of money in always being at war. 144 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: Most of talk radio stokes it as hard as they can, 145 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: and most of politics does because there's so much. 146 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Money to be made at it. 147 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: People don't donate a fraction of what they do when 148 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: you convince them the other side are going to ruin 149 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: the country and their evil doers, which in some cases 150 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: I actually believe, but in some cases not true. 151 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: And this is a perfect example. 152 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: We need fire services in Los Angeles, the Los Angeles 153 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: area and your area to my friends, wherever you happen 154 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: to be, that serves the people and is not a fat, 155 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: rich bureaucracy that protects itself life and death is at 156 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: stake here? 157 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Can we all agree on that? 158 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: And if the answer is, well, that means getting rid 159 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: of excuse me a Democrat. The answer is no, we 160 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: can't agree on that. I'm going to keep voting, or 161 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to pretend that the those Democrats weren't horrifically 162 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: incompetent because I'm. 163 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Always at war even when there's no war to be fought. 164 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: Government waste is your favorite example. Why aren't Democrats who 165 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: want like extensive social programs, help for the meddal ill 166 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: drug counseling, whatever. 167 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: Why aren't you anti government waste? Why you want to 168 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: spend the money to do good stuff? 169 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: Right the whole Minnesota thing where it turns out a 170 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: lot of those billions of dollars were specifically autism programs. 171 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: That was the easiest way to rip off the taxpayer 172 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: was to claim you were doing some sort of autism 173 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: school or something to steal the money and nobody paying attention. God, 174 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: those of you who care about kids and autism, you 175 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: should want them, no matter what their political party is, 176 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: to end up in jail. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 177 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: You want to be no war adamant or as adamant 178 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: than conservatives yes, you should be more adamant than conservatives, 179 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: because in many cases conservatives don't like some of these programs. 180 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: They think there are a waste of money or not 181 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: state government or federal government's job, or whatever this situation is. 182 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: But you'll immediately go with Trump is trying to turn 183 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: the You know, he's racist. It's because Somali's in racism. 184 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: It's not because people were stealing money from autistic kids 185 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: by the billions. Don't turn it into a Trump thing. 186 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: And the same thing with the fire right right very frustrated. 187 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Oh is there any bouncing back from this? Who knows? 188 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's I mentioned this the other day. 189 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Mark Alprin in his newsletter to kick off the year 190 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: on January first, said, you know the story of our 191 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: times and whether or not we can overcome it, I 192 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: do not know. Is we are also dug in on 193 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: our partisan beliefs and unwilling to give an inch that 194 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: can anything be solved or done? Ever? I don't know. 195 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: And I don't know either. And does this change when 196 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: Trump leaves the scene? I don't think so. 197 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you want to circ a super uncomfortable example. 198 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: On the other side, all the people in the last 199 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 3: couple of days on the right Sayinganuary six was a 200 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: peaceful protest, it was fine. 201 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 1: Ridiculous, that's absolutely ridiculous. And Trump pardoning those people. I 202 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: thought it was horrible. 203 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: I can give you the tweets of Trump's cabinet and 204 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: his family on January the sixth when it happened. 205 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: They're all horrified. You know, it's weird. 206 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: We still have the same opinion we did on January 207 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: sixth and seventh. Oh yeah, that we you know now, 208 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: you know if that appeals to you, grade if it doesn't, goodbye, godspeed. 209 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: And I wish you a long and happy life. No, 210 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: that's the way we were all around here. That was 211 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: a dark, dark day and an awful, awful thing. And 212 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: Trump handled it. But I don't know if you could 213 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: have handled it more poorly than handled it. 214 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,359 Speaker 3: And if you're smashing cops in the face with flagpole, 215 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: you are not a friend of mine, and you never 216 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: will be unless you dropped your knees and weep with 217 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: shame and beg to be forgiven. 218 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: That was horrible and it was anti American. 219 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: And if you're claiming otherwise, I suggest you take a 220 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 3: long look at yourself. 221 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: And Thank god, Kamala Harris isn't president right now? Are 222 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: you capable of having all those thoughts happen at the 223 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: same time? Right? 224 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: What America really decided to continue on this point? It's 225 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 3: not that January sixth was fine. Only a very few 226 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: vocal people think that they thought it sucked. 227 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: But we've got a binary choice and the chicks as 228 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: dumb as a dog. She can't be presidents on that. 229 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: And Trump's got a lot of great policies. He's a 230 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: tough guy, and we only have two real choices, So 231 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: Trump it is. That's reality. Oh Man, dumb as a dog, 232 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: that's a criticism. Well it spineless as a jellyfish, a 233 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: sort of jelly dog. It's disgusting. Let's stay here. 234 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 6: The new quarter is out celebrating the United States two 235 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 6: hundred and fiftieth anniversary. 236 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: This year, the. 237 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 6: US Mint has rolled out the Mayflower Compact Quarter. It 238 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 6: features two Pilgrims on the front and the Mayflower ship 239 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 6: on the back. 240 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Four more quarters on the way this year. 241 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 6: Marking the Revolutionary War, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, 242 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 6: and the Gettysburg Address. 243 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to all of the founding stuff, history 244 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: stuff that's gonna happen this year. Anniversaries and everything like 245 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: that gonna be good. Yeah, I agree. 246 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: I'm weirdly looking forward to some of the backlash against 247 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: it too, because I am ready to go. 248 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: Let's get it all. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll be 249 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: good to have that argument. So I did. Over vacation, 250 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: I did what I do every single year. We call 251 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: it cousin Christmas. It was used to be little kids 252 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: getting together and running around in open presence. Now everybody's 253 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: practically a grown up. My kids are the youngest with 254 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: the extended family getting together in Wichita, Kansas, and I 255 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: was looking for something that we could all do at 256 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: our current ages. You know, to kill some time is wrong, 257 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: but spend some time there, you go, spend some time. 258 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: So I suggested bowling. So we all went bowling. Everybody 259 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: went bowling. The only people didn't bowl my mom and dad. 260 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: They are eighty eight and eighty two. They're not bowling, 261 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: but they did go and watch us all bowl and 262 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: everybody else, and it was pretty fun. Various levels of 263 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: athleticism and inflexibility and you know, and just ability to bowl. 264 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: But I quoted you many times, probably somewhat inaccurately, But 265 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: the gist I think I got right is that ten 266 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: year old, twenty eight year old and forty eight year 267 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: old you bowling would tie every time. That's correct. 268 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: I've never gotten any better at bowling, even a brief 269 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: period of my life when I tried. 270 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know so, And it's just it's golf can 271 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: be like this, playing pool. A lot of games can 272 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: be like this if you don't do them regularly. Is 273 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: you do good for a little bit and you start 274 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: to think, you know what I should I should get 275 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: into this. That'd be kind of fun because I won 276 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: the first round with the like ten of us playing, 277 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: and I beat everybody. You're a stud. You're strutting a 278 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: little bit, maybe talking some trash. Oh yeah, and I 279 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: had I think that had three strikes in a row 280 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: at one point or something like that. It still had 281 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: a paltry score at the end. But but it's hilarious. 282 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: My son did the same thing, having a little streak 283 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: where he was doing. Oh you know, there are bowling 284 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: teams for kids, and that could I get a pass 285 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: at the local bowling place and I could go whenever 286 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: I want. It's funny how it hooks you like. 287 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: Longtime listeners know this story. God is my witness. This 288 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: is true. Let Rich the bass player from the Dead 289 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: Flowers be my witness along with God. We bowled three 290 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: games and he's a hardcore bowler. I rolled in ninety seven, 291 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: a two twenty one, in a ninety three. 292 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: No. 293 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Jack Jeff's my brother's girlfriend was there bowling, and she's 294 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: bad like the rest of us. And she said one time, 295 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, she's throwing all strikes. And it ended 296 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: up at the end when it looked like she might 297 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: get a three hundred game. The whole bowling alley was 298 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: gathered around her watching. Everybody stopped everything to watch her 299 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: throw like four gutter balls to finish or what. Oh 300 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: my god, Thank god nobody was aware of what I 301 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: was doing. I would have thrown it into the next down. 302 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: That would be horrible. Lane, tell everybody, look, this is 303 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: just some sort of weird fluke. I mean, it's going 304 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: to your games. Go back to the bar. There's nothing 305 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: to see here. I think I throw a I think 306 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: I threw a one twenty eight, and the the next 307 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: game like a ninety four or something like that, and 308 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: then I was back to thinking, yeah, I'll do this 309 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: again in ten years when there's nothing else to do. 310 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: You guys want our favorite bowling clip. Yes, I brought 311 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: this up, and most of my family had never heard 312 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: of it. When a professional both wins a match throws 313 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: a strike to finally win it. This is a great one, 314 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: a strike to claim it. 315 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 5: Are you. 316 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: Who think you are? That's right? I did it? Whoever 317 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: you think you are, I am right? Words still, remember 318 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: that's what I said. But here's what I thought about. 319 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: With bowling. People often talk about the rental shoes and 320 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: how gross that is, and what's that spray that they 321 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: spray in there? And whatever the disgusting thing is the 322 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: bowling balls. What's going on down in those holes where 323 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: everybody puts their wet, dirty fingers? What festers in there? 324 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: Plus war with Greenland, we'll talk about it. Man, Is 325 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: there a more interesting story than RFK Junior and the 326 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: whole health thing and all that sort of stuff? I 327 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: mean it really the whole trajectory of it, you know, 328 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: Trump considering him a nut job, but needing that chunk 329 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: of people who believed in him, and just the whole thing, 330 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: and then the very stuff that he's so incredibly right about, 331 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: and then the various stuff that he's so incredibly wrong about. 332 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: I think he's a crackpot on a lot of stuff. 333 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: Here's my take on RFK. He's right about some stuff, definitely, 334 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: and the medical establishment has very little credibility in the 335 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: way co COVID. On the other hand, what if I 336 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: were to offer you this just you know, use specifically 337 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: Jack or anybody listening. 338 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: You got to leave your field, your career for a 339 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: couple of years max. A couple of years max. 340 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: Then when you come back to it, it'll be way 341 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: easier and way more profitable. 342 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: You would think, Wow, I'm you know, I got plenty 343 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: of years left in me. Yeah, what is this deal exactly? 344 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 3: RFK Junior is a not an ambulance chaser. He's a 345 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: lawsuit chaser. He's made his living suing companies, par pharmaceutical companies, 346 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: medical companies, and he's getting inside the administration changing laws 347 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: to make that easier so he and his cronies can 348 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: make more money. He also happens to be right about 349 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 3: some stuff, But I don't know. Whatever I give up, 350 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 3: I'm not going to argue that point I have. I 351 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: have a crusades. I feel like we can win and 352 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: that one will correct itself at some point, and how 353 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: much of the I'll get to RFK junior. And they 354 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: announced the new food guidelines dietary guidelines, and I'll get 355 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: to that in a second. But so we've got the 356 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: worst flu situation in twenty five years. 357 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a lot. It's been decades since the 358 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: flu has been this bad, the superflu and everything like that. 359 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: Now they're putting that on the percentage of people that 360 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: have gotten the flu shot, which is way down from 361 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: previous years. It's been trending down for the last four 362 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: or five years. I think because of the whole vaccine controversy. 363 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: Why the COVID vaccine, which they lied to us about 364 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: all kinds of things, turned into also childhood vaccines and 365 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: now the flu vaccine the same way. I'm not exactly sure, 366 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: but it has How much of that is got to 367 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: do with the flu spread because every once in a 368 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: while you get a bad flu, sure, yeah right, yeah, 369 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know either, 370 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: But the percentage of people who got the flu shot 371 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: this year is way way down from previous years. 372 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm actually gonna do a little AI inquiry 373 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: while you're talking. I am paying attention, but this could 374 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: be interesting. 375 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: So the Trump administration, particularly RFK Junior, released the new 376 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: dietary guidelines today for Americans. They do this every five years. 377 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: They updated every five years. It has been basically the 378 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: same since the eighties, by the way, but it's the 379 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: current one that they put out. Is to limit highly 380 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: processed foods, such as those high in sugar and sodium. 381 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Nobody would argue with that, and that endorsed products that 382 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: had once been discouraged by nutritionists, such as whole milk, butter, 383 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: and red meat. That will be very controversial. All day long. 384 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: You'll hear all kinds of stuff from unfortunately probably from partisans, 385 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: people that would have hated what RFK Junior said, no 386 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: matter what it was, along with people who would have 387 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: backed what RFK Junior said, no matter what it was. 388 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: That's what's so frustrating to me. I want to hear 389 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: from people who just break it down based on the knowledge, 390 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: not on whether or not they're fort Trumper against Trump. 391 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, the recommendations out today emphasize eating whole foods 392 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: such as fruits and vegetables in their original forms. Can't 393 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: argue with that. Food's rich in protein and whole grains. 394 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: They call for avoiding packaged, prepared or other ready to 395 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: eat foods that are salty and sweet, such as many chips, candies, 396 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: and cookies. There's no arguing that it's there. They're easy, 397 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: they're cheap, they stay in your cupboard for a month 398 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: and they'll still be fine, and you finally open them, 399 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: and there's all kinds of advantages to them. But man, 400 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: I shouldn't ever eat them ever again. You know, this 401 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: is the worst thing that happened to me over the holidays. 402 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: And those of you, who like lost a loved wunner 403 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: were in a car record probably gonna. 404 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: Hate me for saying this. 405 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: I discovered the best potato chips that have ever been 406 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: produced by the hand of man. 407 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: I need to know this. Oh, I mean, I love 408 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: potato chips. I love potato. There are times in my 409 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: life where my dinner was a bag of potato chips. 410 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: I've done that as a single man. When I was younger, 411 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: big bag of lace potato chips. That's what I had 412 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 1: for dinner. And Judy and I were both struggling with 413 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: our weight. No, we need to lose some which is 414 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: we got to we got to get through the bags 415 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: that we It's not a lot. You could give them 416 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: to the downtrodden. 417 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: Shut up, and then then we will reforms. 418 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: No, why would you tell us what what? I'm not 419 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: gonna do. No. 420 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: Number one, I'm ashamed. And when they're gone, they're gone. 421 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: Number two, that's what we do for a living. And 422 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: I'm not being paid. In three, I don't know if 423 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 3: you can get them where you are? Okay, it's it's 424 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: a niche brand. It's like it's a microchip. If you will, Jack, 425 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: you're some sort of fancy bespoke potato chip person. That's 426 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: exactly right. Yes, put lays in front of me. I 427 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: will turn on my heel and leave. 428 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, yes, k do you have a chip? Thought? 429 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: I just think you can find anything on Amazon. And 430 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: you're being a gatekeeper, that's all. Yeah, you're a gatekeeper. 431 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: You're a denier. I'm pregnant and you're not telling me 432 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: about a type of chip that's delicious. What is wrong 433 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: with you? I will tell you privately. It will be 434 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: our secret. Wow. 435 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: This is so, and thereby thereby raising slightly the chance 436 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: that your new baby will be named Joe. 437 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: So. So, here's my AI search that I did. 438 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: I asked, how well does the keep in mind this 439 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: could be completely made up. The answer, excuse me, how 440 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: well does the current flu shot matchup with strains that 441 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: are going around for the current twenty twenty five twenty 442 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: twenty six flu season, followed of course by the flu playoffs. 443 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: The match between the vaccine and the circulating strains is 444 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: a bit of a mixed bag. Well, the vaccine is 445 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: a great match for two of three of the main viruses. 446 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: A new variant of H three and two has created 447 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: some challenges. Oh, it's all about subclade K Jack, That's 448 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 3: what I was afraid of. 449 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: The news report I saw this morning is the big superflu, 450 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: the latest variant superflu the vaccine does not match up 451 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: with very well. Yeah, I think you're talking about the 452 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: H three N two sub played K of course, which 453 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: has become the dominant strain US in Europe because the 454 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: mismatch with that. The early data suggests the vaccine is 455 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: roughly thirty to forty percent effective at preventing hospitalizations and adults. 456 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: While that's lower than some years, that's pretty typical for 457 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: years when H three and two dominates thirty to forty 458 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: percent effective at preventing hospitalization in adults. 459 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I'm not 460 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: good at being an adult. I never get the flu 461 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: shop shot, I've never ended up in the hospital, so 462 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll probably just keep doing what I've 463 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: been doing until I'm dead. You do what you want 464 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: to do under the new guidelines from the FDA just announced. 465 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: We're not supposed to eat those chips that Joe mentioned 466 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: or anything like that. 467 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: Venmo me ten dollars, I'll email you the name. But 468 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: looking out for number one baby. That's hilarryous. Looking for 469 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: a side hustle. I think I found it. 470 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: Shop broker. This is where it's going to get controversial, though. 471 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: He said stay away from a sugar sweetened beverages, so 472 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: does for drinks and energy drinks. Obs like my son 473 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: is enter the energy drinks. I'm more worried about the 474 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: fake sugar than the caffeine. That fake sugar is supposed 475 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: to be horrible for you. I agree. I'm not a 476 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: health not look at me, but I agree. 477 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: Everything I've read suggests that the fake sweeteners are no 478 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: worse for you or no better for you than sugar. 479 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: Just you shouldn't take a lot of that stuff in 480 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: We're not made to. But under the guidelines, Americans should 481 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: eat three servings of dairy products a day that include 482 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: full fat without added sugar. That's a shift from decades 483 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: of saying eaten to take drink skim or low fat 484 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: options of milk as opposed to the whole milk. I'm 485 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: a whole milk guy, so I can just keep doing 486 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: what I've been doing the whole time. I drink whole 487 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: milk with my cereal or whatever. But that's what the 488 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: new guidelines are. They also should eat ample protein from 489 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: animal and plant sources, including red meats that nutritionists had 490 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: long told Americans to limit limit amount of sugar. I 491 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: need to know, I mean red meat. 492 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: Really, is there a rationale for that or scientific data 493 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: they can share? 494 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: That seems really counterintuitive to me. Well, the Washington Post 495 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: breakdown this all just came out, does not have an 496 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: argument for why the red meat. I'm sure we'll hear 497 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: it throughout the day. Rfk Jr. Speaking as we are 498 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: on the air right now, So maybe he's making the 499 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: argument right now. But I love red meat, and maybe 500 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: I'm a bad person. I'm gonna eat whatever the hell 501 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: I want to eat. Regardless of what this is, it's 502 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna have zero effect on me. So I'll engrave that 503 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: on your gravestone. I want the beef. That's fine, you 504 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: can put on my stone. He ignored rfk JR he 505 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: ate red meat, or followed rfk JR. But I like 506 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: red meat, and I eat a fair amount of it, 507 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: and I stop eating it when i'm full lots. That's 508 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: pretty much the way I Then. 509 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: A heck of a lot of the people we're talking to, 510 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: like us, grew up with the food pyramid that said 511 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 3: eat lots of carbs, carbs all day, be very careful, 512 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 3: don't take in protein. 513 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: It's dangerous for you. Just carve out baby. Yeah, it 514 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: is kind of interesting that he's decided whole fat, dairy 515 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: products and red meat are a good idea. I would 516 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: like to hear the argument for a while. I'm busily 517 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: getting into selling stints when he's out of office. I'm 518 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: probably not gonna change what I eat for better or worse, 519 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: but I am interested in why he's made the change. 520 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: But the ultar processed food saying, that's the thing we 521 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: all got to get on board with. I've got to 522 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: get on board with I'm trying. Actually, if it comes 523 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: in a plastic sack and it's something that will keep 524 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: for fifty. 525 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: Years and has ingredients you've never heard of and would 526 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 3: never have it in your kitchen, don't eat it. 527 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: I am following that rule that you've talked about a 528 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: lot lately. If it's got a long list, I don't 529 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: eat it. If the list is like two things or 530 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: three things that I eat it. 531 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, dang it, I've got this one 532 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: kind of protein bar that I got to talk. 533 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: To Judy and tell her don't get it anymore. 534 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: It's got plenty of vegetable glycerine in it if you're 535 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: looking for that. 536 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: You ever had vegetable glitte through in in your uh 537 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: your cupboard? No, of course not. Well, all right, it's 538 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: it is kind of interesting that that even happened little 539 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: by little. I'm sure when did they start putting the 540 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: ingredients on packages. Did they even have them on the 541 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: air on the one when we were kids, I'm not 542 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: sure they did. 543 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I can't remember when that was, but 544 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: I remember it vaguely happened. 545 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: So that's probably the only reason it ever even got 546 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: started because if you had has started way back when 547 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: we're you know, more people were on the farm or 548 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: whatever and eaten you know, red meat and eggs and 549 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: butter and all that sort of stuff, and then you 550 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: started giving them things that the ingredients listed on there 551 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: were like, what the hell is this? I don't think 552 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: people would have eaten it? No. 553 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: No, it came about through uh, you know, urbanization and 554 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: the incredible expense of fresh food being introduced into those 555 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 3: urban centers in numbers big enough for everybody to eat them. 556 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: It's just incredibly expensive. And so if you have something 557 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: that can be. 558 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: Preserved and maintains its shape and it's look and it's 559 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 3: haste and everything over an extended period just makes a 560 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: lot more sense economically speaking. 561 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Turns out it'll kill you. But so what is it 562 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: you had coming up? Will we be at war with Greenland? 563 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: By and right right? Yes? No, well with Denmark, I 564 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: guess over Greenland. Yeah. I took in a lot of 565 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: info on this yesterday. I do think we are going 566 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: to end up with using my finger quotes Greenland. It's 567 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: not gonna be a state or whatever, but we're gonna 568 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna have our way with Greenland. 569 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: I think whatever it costs ow that's a very romantic 570 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: sexual framing of the issue. 571 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: There, we're gonna be with Greenland. We're gonna have our 572 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: way with Greenland. Wow. 573 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: I make sure you with ants around ankles with Greenland. 574 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: I mean this disturbing. But we'll have some geopolitical analysis 575 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: for you, Okay. 576 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: That's coming up next. 577 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 7: This has been a huge flashpoint. Taking over Greenland is 578 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 7: certainly an idea We've heard President Trump float before, but 579 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 7: especially so in recent day and now the White House 580 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 7: is refusing to rule out using the military to accomplish 581 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 7: that goal, so taking it. 582 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: A step even further. 583 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 7: White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt did emphasize that in 584 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 7: a new statement, saying, quote, acquiring Greenland is a national 585 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 7: security priority of the United States, also adding quote, utilizing 586 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 7: the US military is always an option. 587 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: It's a national security it's a worldwide security move. It's 588 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: good for the whole world. Well, not the world that 589 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: includes Russia, China and Iran, but all the rest of 590 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: the free world. It's a good thing. If we're heavily, 591 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: heavily involved with Greenland, there's zero chance we're gonna take 592 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: it militarily. I don't know why he pretends that's an option. 593 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and as we discussed yesterday, I just I hate 594 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: that aspect of Trump's negotiating style. 595 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: You're talking about a friend here. Now. 596 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: Granted the Euros can be in transigent, lazy and useless 597 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: at times, but Denmark's a friend. You don't walk in 598 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: and say I'm going to beat the crap out of 599 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: you unless you give me a coke. 600 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: Because then they're perfectly inclined. 601 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: To maybe give you a coke, sell you a coke, 602 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: talk about giving you a coke, but. 603 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: Now they're like, no, no, you'll get no cokes here, 604 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: get out. Did you see them? Mastep Just don't make 605 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: it hostile unless you need to make it hostile. Did 606 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: you see the map? I tweeted out yesterday, A good 607 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: view from the top of the globe, as opposed to 608 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: the way we usually look at the map. You look 609 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: at the top of the globe and see where Greenland is. 610 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: It's pretty important that we have greenland. 611 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm not sure I didn't see it. But 612 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: did that include the critical Arctic roots from yes? And yeah, 613 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: oh yeah, it's so important, incredibly important. But anyway, putting 614 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: aside the idea of invasion, invading, invading Greenland, I guess, 615 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: and then when Denmark came to take it back, we 616 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: would beat the hell out of them. 617 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: Well, just to humor that idea for a little bit, 618 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: since what's his name over the weekend, Steven Miller put 619 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, yeah, I think Stephen Miller is right. 620 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: I think if we landed Marines on Greenland, I don't 621 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: think they would fight us, and I don't think NATO 622 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: would say Article five invoked and fight us either. I 623 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: think everybody would be like, oh, come on, you can't 624 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: do this. It would work. Yeah, you know, it was funny, 625 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: very bad politically though international Marco Rubio so often the 626 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: good cop to Trump's bad cop is we've got a 627 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: statement which we're about to play for you. 628 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: But Stephen Miller is the little scene insane cop in 629 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: that cinera. Well, no, he's not insane. He is just 630 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: absolutely unfiltered, pure Maga. He is the id of the 631 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: Maga White House. And I get how a guy like 632 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: him is necessary. It's a little over the top. There's 633 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: no reason to get in the face of the Denmarkians 634 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: also known as the Danes unnecessarily, as I said, But 635 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: here's here's Marco ended up for what's probably gonna happen 636 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: in fifty nine. 637 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: Michael, can you clarify your comments why Greenland? Does the 638 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: US intend to buy Greenland? Can you clarify your comments 639 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: to lawmakers this week? 640 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 8: Well, that's always been the president's intent from the very beginning. 641 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 8: He said it very early on. I mean, this is 642 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 8: not new. He talked about it in his first term, 643 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 8: and he's not the first US president that is examined. 644 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 8: They're looked at, how could we acquire Greenland? There's an 645 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 8: interest there, But so I just reminded them of the 646 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 8: fact that not only did Truman want to do it, 647 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 8: but President Trump's been talking about this since his first term. 648 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: So Marco is making it clear we want to buy 649 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: Greenland and not not invaded. We could throw so much 650 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: money at the Danes that they'd say, we'd be nuts 651 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: not to sell Greenland. Yeah, yeah, And then I don't 652 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: know why the people of Greenland would be upset with that. 653 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: There's nothing. You'd be very happy being under the protection 654 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: of the United States. As the people in walm how 655 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: they feel about it, They're happy. 656 00:33:59,480 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 657 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: I haven't talked to any Guamians lately, But yeah, I 658 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 3: don't know. I think they again, they resent being used 659 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 3: as a pawn and being told what their fate is 660 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: going to be. They think they should have self determination. 661 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: There are towns that don't even have their own police 662 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: force bigger than the entire population of Greenland. So it's 663 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: all kind of cute when you talk about the incredible 664 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 3: geopolitical importance of it. One more Rubio fifty nine b Michael, guys. 665 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 8: But I think the White House said yesterday is what 666 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 8: I will tell you now. And I've always said the 667 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 8: president always retained the option if he Every president, not 668 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 8: this president, every president always retains the option. 669 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Greenland. I'm just talking about globally. 670 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 8: If the president identifies a threat to the national security 671 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 8: of the United States, every president retains the option to 672 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 8: address it through military means. As a diplomat, which is 673 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 8: what I am now and what we work on, we 674 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 8: always prefer to settle it in different ways. That included 675 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 8: in Venezuela. We tried repeatedly to reach an outcome here 676 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 8: that did not involve having to go in and grab 677 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 8: an indicted drug trafficker. 678 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: Those were unsuccessful, Unfortunately. 679 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: You know, he makes an excellent point about the ridiculousness of. 680 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: Will you rule out military action? 681 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: Well maybe unless stuff happens that causes it to be necessary, 682 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 3: then we'll rule. 683 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: It back in again. Yeah, what is the hamdkick? You'll 684 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: find out in our four. If you get the podcast 685 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty on demand, subscribe Armstrong and Getty