1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: I saw this quote, and the quote said our history 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: becomes our reflex and my mind was like, and for me, 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: what that means is as someone who grew up in 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: a violent household, right where I was physically abused, verbally abused, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: mentally abused, I knew that no matter how much I 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: didn't want to repeat that cycle, I had the propensity 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: to become what I experienced because it's in me. It's 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: sort of innate, right, It's like, this is my default 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: because I experience violence. If I don't do the work, 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: I may be a violent person because that's literally what 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: I witnessed. That's what's really in me, right, And so 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: if I don't equit myself with tools, I very well 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: may become the mother I always said I didn't want 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: to become. 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: on iTunes and visit cultivatingheirspace dot com. To access our 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: women like you. 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: We're your hosts. 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: Doctor Dominique Bussard, a college professor and psychologist. 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: five roids to fake friends, and create a safe space 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: where black women can just be. 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here from the Cultivating her 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: Space podcast. Are you currently a resident of the state 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: of California and contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so, 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: please reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brusard dot com. 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: That's d R D O M I N I q 37 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: U E B R O U S s r D 38 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: dot com to schedule a free fifteen minute consultation. I 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: look forward to hearing from you. Our quote of the day, 40 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: intentional parenting is not about doing everything right. It's about 41 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: being purposeful in your actions and interactions with your children. 42 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 4: Author unknown. I'm gonna say that again for the folks 43 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: in the back. Intentional parenting is not about doing everything right. 44 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: It's about being purposeful in your actions and interactions with 45 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: your children. 46 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 5: All right, O, T. 47 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Girl, I love it. I think it's a great quote. 48 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: I think it. I was gonna say it lets us 49 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: off the hook in a way as parents, but not 50 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: in a bad way, right. I feel like sometimes letting 51 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: someone off the hook has a negative connotation. But I 52 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: love the fact that it's not about doing everything right, 53 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: because y'all know we'd been making mistakes out here as parents. 54 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: But it's sobering and it's helpful to know that it's 55 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: about being purposeful in our actions and our interactions with 56 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: our children. 57 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 5: Versus just. 58 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: Doing what was done to us, you know what I mean, 59 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: and just following the generational cycles that we experience. 60 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 5: So I think it's cool. 61 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: I like it, and I love the fact that we 62 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: are in this age where conscious parenting and intentional parenting 63 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: and some people call it gentle parents team, which I 64 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: know can be a little triggering for some people. They're like, 65 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: these kids ain't gentle, how how much it's a parent 66 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: But I love the fact that this is a conversation 67 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: because a lot of us, based on what we saw 68 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: growing up based on what we experienced growing up. I know, 69 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: some of the elders, some of the old folks, they 70 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: would be like, what are y'all talking? 71 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? Okay, spoider what they say, 72 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: spoiler ride, spoider child the. 73 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: Ride, bear the ride, spoil the child. 74 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: There you go, keep me honest. Down there you go, y'all, 75 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: y'all remember y'all know listen. 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: You know. One one thing that I see with the 77 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: majority of my friends and family who are parenting is 78 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: this intentionality to being different than how we were raised 79 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: in a good way, right, recognizing that, yeah, there are 80 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 4: some things that truly was not helpful for us when 81 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: we were growing up, and figuring out what are the 82 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: things that were helpful and how to actually implement them 83 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: without causing more trauma, which is very hard, Which is 84 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: why I always say kudos to those of you who 85 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: are doing it full time, because that it's a lot. 86 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 4: It really is a lot of work, and I don't 87 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: think that a lot of people truly understand how much 88 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: work goes into being a parent, but really the work 89 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: of being an intentional parent. 90 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: I would say an intentional and active parent, because anyone 91 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: can be a parent if you have a child, but 92 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: when you're active in your child's life and your intentional 93 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: it does take work, especially when you didn't see that 94 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: growing up. I think about me, don like you know, 95 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: we both had experience being parentified children and raising our 96 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: siblings to some degree, and me raising my four younger siblings. 97 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: Although it prepared me so much for motherhood, people used 98 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: to always tell me this, it is so different, Like 99 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: it is so different when you have your own and 100 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: when it's twenty four to seven. 101 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: It's not like I turned this off. 102 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: Like it's a mom, Like that is who I am 103 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: and to my daughter, and it's work. So what we're 104 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: gonna do, first, lady, We're going to jump into some 105 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: highlights of a few healthy and also some toxic parenting 106 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: behaviors that we witnessed growing up. Now, let me just 107 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: say I'm trying to think where I want to go 108 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: with this because I don't want to be petty, but 109 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. I'm being real, girl. I saw 110 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: so much toxicity when it came to parenting growing up. 111 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember, and I think the world has 112 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: changed to like people. I think we can all agree 113 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: that people are more sensitive these days, right, So we 114 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 2: are calling out bad behavior. So I think about growing 115 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: up where a lot of people that I know, their 116 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: first bully was their parent, their mother or their father, right, Oh, 117 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: that was the person that would tease them about the 118 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: way they looked, tease them about the way they sounded, 119 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: or just make fun of them, right, talk about their 120 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: looks and or their their intellect or whatever it might be. 121 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: I think about name calling. I think about just some 122 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: of the foul shit that I heard parents say to 123 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: their kids growing up, Things that were said to me, 124 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: things that I've witnessed other people say you just like 125 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: your big head ass daddy, Like just stuff where it's like, yo, 126 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: why this is a child. 127 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 5: They're so impressionable, right, They're a sponge, you. 128 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: Know, right. And I think the hard part with a 129 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: lot of that is that parents didn't realize that it 130 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: was toxic behavior, right, or that it inappropriate. Because I 131 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: also want to be mindful of how often I use 132 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 4: the word toxic, because sometimes it's not necessarily toxic, it's inappropriate, right, 133 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: And I think that a lot of times certain behaviors 134 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: that our parents just like subconsciously or intinsually engaged in 135 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: was inappropriate, but wasn't intentionally meant to harm, right, And 136 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: so I think that that's something that we also have 137 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: to think about that when you become a parent, you 138 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 4: can reflect on the experience that you had as a 139 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: child and recognize the intent versus the impact, right, and 140 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 4: hopefully maybe do something different with your child. Also acknowledging 141 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 4: that your intent might not have the impact that you're 142 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: hoping it does. 143 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: That is so true. A lot of times we won't 144 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: know that until the child gets older. I can't remember 145 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: what the quote said, but there was one quote that 146 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: said your child will probably be in therapy for you 147 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: at some point in life, and it made me so 148 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: sad because I was like, but I'm trying to be 149 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: so intentional and I'm trying to do things the right way, 150 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: but you never know how you're parenting, how it's going 151 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: to impact your child until they get older and they 152 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: reflect on those experiences. Yeah, Hey, lady, it's Terry here, 153 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: Dom and I want to take a moment to thank 154 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: you for choosing to listen to our podcast. 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All right, lady, 192 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: we'll hop right back into the conversation. 193 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 4: I also think about the positive things too, right, that 194 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: most of us got to where we are because there 195 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 4: were positive folks in our lives, whether those were our 196 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: parents or other caregivers. We got to where we are 197 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: because there were positive people. 198 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 5: In our lives at some point. 199 00:11:55,080 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: And oftentimes I wonder about, Okay, maybe I might not 200 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: be the best cook, but my mom made sure I 201 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 4: learned those skills right. So at a minimum, now I'm 202 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: a backup and just clarify that I am a good cook. 203 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: But I'm gonna just say. 204 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna just say that maybe I'm not out here 205 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 4: cooking gourmet meals every day, but I learned the basic 206 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: skills of cooking so that I could survive. Right. I 207 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: know how to keep a clean home, whether I do 208 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 4: it myself or I pay somebody to do it. I 209 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: know how to keep a clean home because I was 210 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: taught how to wash dishes, how to clean a soul, 211 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: how to wash windows, how to do the laundry. I 212 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 4: was taught all of these basic life skilled Whether I 213 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: wanted to do them or not, I was taught them. 214 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, as a kid, we think 215 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: about a lot of things that our parents make us do, 216 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 4: like chores, and we look at it with such disdain 217 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: and like, look, I don't want to Why am I 218 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: getting up on Saturday morning to clean the house. Because 219 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: you need to know how to keep a clean house, 220 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: because what are you going to do as an adult? 221 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 4: And so I think that there are lots of skills 222 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: that our parents taught us that we despise doing when 223 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 4: we were kids, but as an adult are. 224 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 5: Necessary for our survival. 225 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: Because when I work at people that don't know how 226 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 4: to do it, learn how to sort laundry. M Okay, 227 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 4: let's back up and let's have that conversation because. 228 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: You miss something back then not okay, I feel you though, No, 229 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: that's what you've domb. I think about just some confidence, 230 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: best practices, and just how to care for myself as 231 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: a woman, like being a clean woman who's you know, 232 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: who prioritizes personal hygienie and stuff like that. Those are 233 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: things that I kind of took for granted because my 234 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: mom was just very adamant about us being very clean people. 235 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: And I grew up and went to college and I 236 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: saw some women and I was like, okay, so you 237 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: didn't learn this right, Like everyone is coming from a 238 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: different place. And so yes, there are many healthy behaviors, 239 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: some toxics, some that are just inappropriate. There's a lot 240 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: going on there. But today we are talking about intentional 241 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: mothering or parenting, and we're going to dive into seven 242 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: practices to shift to help you shift into intentional mothering. 243 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: So shall we dive into number one time? 244 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: Let's do it. Let's do it all right? 245 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 5: All right? 246 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: So number one is cultivating mindfulness it with that for 247 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: a second, Yes, nice place to take a deep breath. 248 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 249 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: So see, how would you define mindfulness in terms of mothering? 250 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: I would say for me, Dom, well, let me just 251 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: say one thing I realized growing up, there was a 252 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: lot of reacting. So there was a lot of just 253 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: very quick, I want to say, chaotic movements, so like 254 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: you did something you weren't supposed to do, bamn, you 255 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: get the back hand to the face. Like it was 256 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: just everything was very reactive. And so for me, mindfulness 257 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: means pausing, taking a moment, feeling your feelings. Actually this 258 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: happened today, this evening at bad time with my two 259 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: year old. She got this new baby doll. Her grandmother 260 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: bought her this new baby doll. And it's one of 261 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: those baby dolls with a soft body and a big 262 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: old head. So it's a cute little baby doll but 263 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: has a very hard head. And we're walking into the 264 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: bathroom and she drops the baby doll. She has a 265 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: baby dollar and she drops it and it falls like 266 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: right on my eye, and you know, I'm a human, 267 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: so you feel that shit and you're like what the fuck? 268 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: And I was just like okay, So I told her, 269 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: I said, wait a minute, and she started crying, and 270 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: I was also feeling my feels because I just got 271 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: hitting the goddamn mind like I hope I don't get 272 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: a bruise. And it looks like I'm just going through 273 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: all this and we're trying to do bath, you know, 274 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: brush your teeth and all that. 275 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 5: So I just told her, I. 276 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: Said, I need you to wait a minute. Mommy just 277 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: got hit and eye with the baby doll. 278 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 5: My eye hurts. I just need a moment, okay. 279 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: So I'm talking through it with her as I'm breathing, 280 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: as I'm helping myself to self regulate. 281 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 5: And so I think for me, mindfulness. 282 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: Allows me to slow down, become aware of how I feel, 283 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: gather myself before I just react, and I try to 284 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: do my best to respond versus reacting. And so yeah, 285 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: for me, it's taking deep breaths. And my baby is 286 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: I told you she's two. And I call it the 287 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: transformative twos because I do not receive the terrible twos. 288 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: I don't receive that. I'm not speaking that and so 289 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: and talking through how I feel. I think it's helpful. 290 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: It's helpful for me. It's also helpful for her as 291 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: far as like mirroring that behavior. I remember recently another example. 292 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: I've walked past her room, saw her drawing on her 293 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: baby doll's face. She knows she's not supposed to do that, 294 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: So I walk by and she looks up at me 295 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: and looks like a deer in headlights, and I'm like, okay, 296 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: she just gave it away what she here doing. So 297 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm peeking over at her, and I'm like, okay, I 298 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: didn't raise my voice. I just spoke to her and 299 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: I told her we don't do that, we only write 300 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: on paper. And I just you know, spoke to her 301 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: through it, gave her a wipe, let her clean the 302 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: baby doll. So I think for me, it's all about 303 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: just being intentional right with the way that I'm responding, 304 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: but also being mindful of how I feel. Sometimes I 305 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: need to take a breath and walk away. So for me, 306 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: sometimes mindfulness means removing myself from the situation and not engaging. 307 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: That was my thing. 308 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: I No, I love that, And I think that those 309 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: examples are really good examples of when your children be 310 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 4: testing you. Co they gonna test you, and they never 311 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 4: stop testing you. Grown they could be grown, grown, and 312 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: you might feel like you're being tested. That's what it is, 313 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: and if you really are trying to be mindful, I 314 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: love what you said about not being reactionary when we 315 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: move into spaces of reacting instead of taking that time 316 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 4: to pause and really get clear on one, what just happened, 317 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: and then two, how do we want to respond in 318 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: a way that is not going to escalate the situation. 319 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: That takes a lot, like you have to be having 320 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 4: multiple thoughts at the same time in order to navigate 321 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: those situations. It takes a lot of flexibility, agility, and 322 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 4: nimbleness to be able to be mindful in that moment 323 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 4: when your child is testing your games okay period, Yeah, 324 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 4: they really will. And I think part of what helps 325 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 4: is the example that you gave right of taking those 326 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 4: deep breaths, like I think, and and modeling that for 327 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: your child. So saying to your child, mommy needs a moment, 328 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 4: Mommy was just hit, Mommy is hurt, Mommy needs a moment. 329 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 5: To collect herself. 330 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: And in that moment, you're collecting yourself, but you're also like, 331 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: how do I respond? Because what I really want to 332 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: do if this was somebody else, I might I might 333 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 4: have hit back. I might have popped off, but this 334 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 4: is my child, and I want my child to learn 335 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: how to respond without aggression. And so let me take 336 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: a moment to acknowledge that my eye has hurt, because shit, 337 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: it hurts. I hope it doesn't bruise. And we're also 338 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: in the middle of bad time. And if I derail 339 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 4: us too far from the routine, then that sets off 340 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: a whole another domino effect of negative behaviors. So how 341 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: fast can I collect myself? How fast can I affess 342 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 4: make sure that my eye really isn't there's no blood, 343 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: there's no broom, Take some deep breadths that I'm no 344 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: longer mad at this child for hitting me with the 345 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: doll and re engage in the bad time routine. That's 346 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: a lot, it is. 347 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: It is a lot. 348 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: But one of the things that we both touched on 349 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: dom we touched on mirroring good behavior. And it's a 350 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: great practice for me too, because your kids be watching us. 351 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: Our kids watch us, even when we don't think they 352 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: hear something. It's like it takes one time for them 353 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: to just repeat something and make it a part of 354 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: their practice. Like she just started saying ao, and I'm like, 355 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: who says that because we don't say that in my house. 356 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 5: Ao. 357 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: Ao. 358 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, she heard one person, maybe you are on 359 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: the street, say it, and I'm like, damn, now, we 360 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: got to get that out of her. But one of 361 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 2: the things I want to share to Dom is when 362 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: it comes to the mirroring. So she gets really frustrated 363 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: with some of her baby dolls when she's trying to 364 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: put them down for a nap and put cover on them, 365 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: and so she gets really really just really frustrated physically 366 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: and visibly, and it's some trigger because. 367 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 5: It's like, why are you screaming? Why are you yelling. 368 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: So one of the things we've been doing is I'll 369 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: have her and I'll do this with her, put her 370 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 2: hand on her chest and say I'm okay, I'm calm, 371 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: I got this, and then. 372 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 5: We take deep breaths together. 373 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: So she repeats after me and says it, and it's 374 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: really helpful because it helps me to calm down. It 375 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: also helps her to calm down and self regulate. And 376 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure as we continue to do that, she will 377 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: continue to do that without me as well, because she 378 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: does other things that are very similar to that. The 379 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: other thing I wanted to share because I have a 380 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: song that I created, and y'all don't judge me, don't 381 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: laugh at me. But I'm gonna just say the words 382 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: of the song. So the song goes like this, and 383 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: this has so helpful. I was doing this for a while. 384 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: Mommy has patience. Mommy has patience. I can take deep 385 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: breaths like ah, and then I take a deep breath, 386 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: and then she'll say her name is She'll do it. 387 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: Baby Z has patience, and she'll do the same thing. 388 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you it's silly, isn't my saying? You 389 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: might be laughing as you listen to this, but it 390 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: be working. 391 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 4: Did you working? 392 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 5: That's so helpful? 393 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: Tom? 394 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: And I see and she she repeats after it. And 395 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: the last thing I promise is apologizing. I think taking 396 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: responsibility and apologizing. I often say, like if I dropped something, 397 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: often say mommy made a mistake, so that she knows, 398 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: like mommy's human, it's okay for mommy to make mistakes. 399 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: And if I do something like we were walking or something, 400 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: I may have bumped her and I said, oh, I apologize, 401 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: and she looked up and laught, but letting her know 402 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: like it's okay. For mommy to apologize and take responsibility. 403 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: I'm not above apologizing because I'm wrong sometimes and I 404 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: do make mistakes. 405 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: So that's all I want to say. 406 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 4: I think that that's beautiful. I think that with the 407 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: particularly with the songs, that's how I could learn. And 408 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: if you use us, Because as you were singing it, 409 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 4: I was like, I know this melody, Like this melody 410 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 4: is like a part of like four or five different 411 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 4: nursing rhymes. Like I know, I know this. Can't call 412 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 4: it right now, It's gonna come for me later, but 413 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 4: I know four or five nursing rhymes with that melody, 414 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: and that is what helps kids learn. And so if 415 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 4: you make a song out of something, because if we 416 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: think about all the kids TV shows, every kid TV 417 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: show has music because that's how the kids are learning 418 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 4: the new skills. So you make a song out of it, 419 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: and now it's fun and they're taking it in. 420 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 5: I love that. I love that. 421 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 4: So then this brings us to our second practice, which 422 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 4: is prioritizing self care. Now, lady, y'all know that I 423 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: am a big proponent of self care, and I talk 424 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: often about how there's layers to it, right, and I 425 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: recognize that for moms, self care often have has to 426 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 4: look a little different than it looks for the rest 427 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 4: of us. Right. So I'm not saying that moms can't 428 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 4: go out there and get that massage or to take 429 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: that bubble bas but realistically, what we know is that 430 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 4: moms have to prepare and do a lot, take a 431 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 4: few more extra steps in order to make that happen. 432 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: And so I think prioritizing self care for moms really 433 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: comes down to the daily pass that you do to 434 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: make sure you're good. And so for me, when I 435 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: think about what those daily have are, like what I've 436 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 4: told moms before is look at what time you're waking 437 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 4: up in the morning, right, look at what time you're 438 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: going to sleep at night. Maybe maybe you wake up 439 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: a little bit earlier so you can get from time 440 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 4: to yourself, right, and whether that time to yourself is 441 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 4: exercising or meditating or taking that starting your day with 442 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 4: that bubble bath, right, But look at your own schedule 443 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 4: and see where you can fit in some time to yourself. 444 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 4: For some people it might not be depending on what 445 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 4: your work life balance is, it might not be in 446 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: the morning or at night. Maybe you have a few 447 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 4: hours in the middle of your day before you have 448 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: to get the kids home from school or daycare. Well, 449 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 4: that's where you take the time for yourself, and it's 450 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 4: something that you do on a daily basis, And it 451 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: could only be five minutes, but those five minutes could 452 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: make all the difference between you having the capacity to 453 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 4: flow down and be mindful or being reactive. 454 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: A to the men dim And speaking of those extra 455 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: steps that mamas have to take, let me just say 456 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer that many of us have heard 457 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: this right, put your mask on first. I believe that mothers, especially, 458 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: we need to put our masks on first because it's 459 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: not easy and it often requires sacrifice, but it can 460 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 2: pay dividends when it comes to our self care practice 461 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: and what it looks like. So for me, these days, 462 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: I sacrifice my sleep in the morning, so I go 463 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: work out at six am with my trainer three days 464 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: a week. 465 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 5: I typically take baths. 466 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 2: You know, I was gonna say by myself, obviously, but 467 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: I take baths after bedtime and sometimes I even believe 468 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: that setting boundaries can be an active self care. And 469 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: this may sound mean to some mom's out there, but 470 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: let me give you an example. So ever since my 471 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: daughter was very young. I started this. Now I breasted 472 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: my baby for fifteen months. I've given her all of me. 473 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: So sometimes mommy has a snack and it's mommy snack, 474 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: and so I'll be eating my snack that She'll be 475 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: looking at bat me with her beautiful big eyes, and 476 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: I'm looking like, yes, baby, mommy has a snack. This 477 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: is mommy snack. And so if you want a snack, 478 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: I'll give her one of her snacks. But I'll say, 479 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: if you want a snack, you can have this snack. 480 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 5: But this is for me. 481 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: And it feels really good setting that boundary for me 482 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: because it allows me to one have something for myself. 483 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you those small moments it may seem 484 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: very small, like oh, you eating that snickers, you're not 485 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: gonna share, but having something for yourself sometimes, even if 486 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: it's just the snickers, it really does. It really does 487 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: do something for you. It really can do right. And 488 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: even when I think about the morning routine that I 489 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: have right going to the gym today was actually a 490 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: really great day for me. I meditated in the morning 491 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: and because I was able to prioritize myself first. Now 492 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: at the end of the day when she testing me 493 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: and she's being a toddler, she's doing her thing, or 494 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: other things in life pop up that try to irritate 495 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: me or trigger me. 496 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 5: I am more at ease. I ate really well. 497 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: I was drinking my water today all it's mine my business, 498 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: like I was doing all that. And so now at 499 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: the end of the day, after a long, ast day 500 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: of work and mothering and now Domini recording the podcast, 501 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: I have a bit more energy to get My cup 502 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: is overflowing, so I have something to pour into the podcast, 503 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: into our community because I've already sold into myself. 504 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 505 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 5: I love that. 506 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 4: And so now let's look at practice number three. Always 507 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: be learning always always. I think that there is something 508 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: that I usually say is like I like to learn 509 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: something new every day. 510 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 5: It could be. 511 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 4: Something major or it could be something small. But I 512 00:29:53,720 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: think for moms what is helpful is recognizing that times changed. 513 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 4: I was hanging out with some of my homegirls this weekend, 514 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 4: and one of them has a ten year old and 515 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 4: then an almost one year old, and she was sharing 516 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: how the differences between some of the technology and some 517 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 4: of the resources that are available for her almost one 518 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: year old. That weren't anywhere on anybody's radar when her 519 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 4: ten year old was born, and so to me, I 520 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: think it's important for us to always be in a 521 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: space of learning and having that willingness to recognize that 522 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: there might be an easier or different way of doing 523 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 4: something that we've always done that could make our life 524 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: a little bit more enjoyable. 525 00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 5: I was just thinking about you. 526 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: I can only imagine the difference in parenting because of 527 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: what we have access to now, and just because of 528 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: how times have changed so much in the past nine years. 529 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: So raising a ten year old and then a one 530 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: year old, wow, just yeah, I can only imagine. I 531 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: will say I saw this quote, and the quote said 532 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: our history becomes our reflex and my mind was like, 533 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: and for me, what that means is, as someone who 534 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: grew up in a violent household, right where I was 535 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: physically abused, verbally abused, mentally abused, I knew that no 536 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: matter how much I didn't want to repeat that cycle, 537 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: I had the propensity to become what I experienced because 538 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: it's in me. It's sort of innate, right, It's like, 539 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: this is my default because I experienced violence. If I 540 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: don't do the work I may be a violent person 541 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: because that's literally what I witnessed, that's what's really in me, right, 542 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: And so if I don't equit myself with tools, I 543 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: very well may become the mother I always said I 544 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: didn't want to become. And so when we're in those moments, 545 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: it's easy to pull from what we know, right, what's 546 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: on our proverbial shelf, and what's familiar to us. And 547 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: if you think about it, right, let's say you're at home, 548 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: you're like trying to eat healthy, but you got cookies 549 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: and cakes at the crib and it's late at night, 550 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: and you're like, Oh, I'm trying to eat healthy, but 551 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: what's easy, what's available? I'm gonna go to the stuff 552 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: that they're I'm not going to go to the grocery 553 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: store the middle the night and go buy a salad 554 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: and do all that. 555 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna just go with what I know. 556 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: And so I have found that, in addition to me 557 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: saying oh I don't want to be like my mom, 558 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to do the things that my mom did, 559 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 560 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 5: Do the things that I witnessed. That's not enough. 561 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: We have to replace what we've experienced, replace what we've 562 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: witnessed with tools and see if they work. And so 563 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: right now I'm reading a book called Oh Crap A 564 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: top weight. It's called Oh Crap, I Have a Toddler 565 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: by Jamie Glowaki, and so far it's really good. There 566 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: are some tips in some perspectives that I probably share 567 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: living in the episode about what I've learned so far. 568 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: But that has been so essential to me, don because 569 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: a lot of times people that have grown up in 570 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: dysfunction on the music households, they'll simply say, I don't 571 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: want to become that, but then there's nothing else that 572 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: we do after that to ensure that. 573 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 5: We don't become what we don't want to become. 574 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 4: Right, And I think it's also important too to ask questions. Right, 575 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 4: That's how you continue that, That's how you're constantly learning, 576 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 4: is you ask questions. If you don't know, as someone, 577 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 4: be mindful of your sources and recognize that sometimes it's 578 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 4: more helpful to as you're trying to learn how to 579 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: navigate a situation, to generate information from multiple people with 580 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 4: multiple experiences. Right, So, if you're trying to navigate potty 581 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 4: training a toddler, which I know is a hard thing 582 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: for parents to do. Maybe it's you're asking someone who 583 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 4: is like a grandparent or a great grandparent, so you're 584 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 4: getting some generational with them. Maybe you're asking someone who 585 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 4: is another you know, maybe a couple of decades older. 586 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 4: But then maybe you're also asking moms at your child's daycare. 587 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 4: So you're pulling your resources to help to give you 588 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 4: as much of a knowledge base as possible to help 589 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 4: you in your decision making. And that's how you always 590 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 4: like you can constantly be learning. 591 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 5: That is so key down. 592 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: I think community is so important, especially when it comes 593 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: to this periodhood journey, because sometimes parents can be ghetto, y'all. 594 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 5: Okay, it could be ghetto out here. 595 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: In these parents are streets so down that takes us 596 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: to practice number four, which this is one of my 597 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: favorite job. Add affirmations to your daily routine. And we've 598 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: done episodes about affirmations, and I just believe that affirmations 599 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: are so important because we hear so much in our 600 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: daily life, whether it's media social media that we're not 601 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: good enough, right, you got to buy this thing, or 602 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: tweak this thing, or snatch this waste just some there's 603 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 2: always something telling us that we need to do something 604 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: to be good enough. And so I truly believe that 605 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: us stating affirmations for ourselves but also for our children 606 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: can really help to reprogram our mind and give us 607 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: something fresh and positive that we can lean on throughout 608 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: the day, so that that internal dialogue can be a 609 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 2: bit more positive. And so, as someone who was verbally 610 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: abused when I was younger, I experienced firsthand what it's 611 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: like to be far removed from my trauma and my abuser, 612 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 2: right being three thousand miles away from where I'm from, 613 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: but still being haunted by the things that were said 614 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 2: about me right when I was younger. So whether you 615 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: heard you know, you're dumb, you're other stupid, whatever it 616 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: might be, those things tend to stick with us. I 617 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: saw another quote online that said, the way we talk 618 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: to our children becomes their inner voice. I'm gonna say that, 619 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: moll time for the people in the back. The way 620 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: we talk to our children becomes their inner voice. And 621 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 2: I am a living witness that that is the truth. 622 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: Because a lot of times when we hear that negative 623 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: self talk, we have to ask ourselves where did that 624 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 2: come from? 625 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 5: Who did that come from? 626 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: Because a lot of times we weren't born saying negative 627 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: things about ourselves, So it came from somewhere right. And 628 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: so ever since my daughter was in my stomach, I've 629 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: been reciting affirmations to her. When I rock her to 630 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 2: bed at night, I'm stating affirmations and she repeats them. 631 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: Now when we're in the bathroom brushing her teeth, I 632 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 2: state affirmations. We say them in the mirror together, and 633 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: I also try to focus on non physical affirmation. So 634 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: we'll do the I'm beautiful, I love my hair, I 635 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: love my brown skin. We also say I'm rich, I'm wealthy, 636 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: I'm healthy, I'm smart, I'm strong, I'm kind, I'm a 637 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: critical thinker. We say all these things in the mirror, 638 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: and I truly will leaves it. I mean, we know 639 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 2: words or energy and filling our babies theirs their heads 640 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: with this positive affirmations that will then become their internal dialogue, 641 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 2: that will become their default. So when some some shorty 642 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: comes up to them when they growing up, they're like, 643 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: oh you. 644 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: Fine, It's like, oh yeah, I already know that. 645 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 2: My mom and my dad even telling me that since 646 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: I was you know what I mean, Like, I know 647 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: that bout myself so it's it's really important. 648 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 4: I mean, what else do I need to say? You? 649 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 4: You covered this like for real, like, And the one 650 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 4: thing I will add is going back to that songe 651 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 4: right of using affirmation in the form of stone also helped. 652 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say I So Snoop Dogg shout out 653 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: to Uncle Snoop. Snoop Dogg has this amazing I don't 654 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: know what it's called, but we we got to put 655 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: in the show notes these amazing affirmations. 656 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 5: So we listened to Gracie's. 657 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: Corner's Corners the Truth, right, we got to get them 658 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: on the podcast, and Gracie's Corner on Pandora on the 659 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: way to daycare, and so Snoop Dogg his Children's mix 660 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: comes on and he has an affirmation song and she's 661 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 2: repeating them in the back of the car, like today 662 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 2: It's going to be a great day, and all these 663 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 2: positive affirmations. 664 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 5: So I just wanted to say that real quick, shout 665 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 5: out to Uncle. 666 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 4: Sleep Yes, yes, I love it, like and you get 667 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 4: it in a song and then they keep repeating it. Right, 668 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: But then also for ourselves too, we need some music 669 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 4: that is powerful and uplifting and positive and pouring into 670 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 4: us as well. So then that takes us to our 671 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 4: fifth practice, create an ever evolving parenting guide. 672 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: So what does that look like? 673 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 4: That means and I'm highlight that word ever evolving. It's 674 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 4: a guide for how you want to engage your child 675 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 4: or your children, recognizing that things will change as your 676 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 4: child developed, as society changes. And so your parenting guy, 677 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 4: you know, one child. I think back to when I 678 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 4: was growing up and I came up in the era 679 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 4: where people had beepers. Let me just say, the college 680 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: kids don't know what beepers are. So my mind was brown, 681 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 4: but I had a beeper. And but by the time 682 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 4: some of my younger siblings became of age to where 683 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 4: they would be allowed to have a beeper, beepers weren't 684 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 4: a thing anymore. Cell phones were the thing to have. 685 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 4: And so your parenting guide is going to constantly evolve 686 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 4: based on like I said, development, societal times. And if 687 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 4: you have multiple children, you cannot parent each child the 688 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 4: exact same way because each child is different. And so 689 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 4: one child, you may have one child where all you 690 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: have to do is slightly raise your voice and they're 691 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 4: automatically responding, and that next child does not batten out 692 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 4: to your slightly raised voice. That child is the one 693 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: who's really trying to test your gangster and wants you 694 00:40:54,120 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 4: to come out of pocket before they engage you. And 695 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 4: so you have to figure out how to navigate your 696 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 4: different children while you are still being intentional and mindful. 697 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: Dom you hit the nail on the head with that, 698 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 2: because I was definitely going to speak to the fact 699 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: that you cannot parent one child the way you parent 700 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 2: all the children. Definitely learn that with my siblings. Everyone's 701 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: so unique, right, Human beings are just so unique, and 702 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 2: so there are different approaches. I am still working on 703 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: my every evolving parenting guide, but I think, like you said, 704 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: it does change as the times change. Also as we change, 705 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 2: we may gain a new perspective as we're always learning, 706 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: and then we're like, oh wait, I used to do 707 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: this one thing. I don't want to do that anymore. 708 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 2: So I would say, when I think about the parenting 709 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 2: guy that I'm building, it's going to include some best 710 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: practices for this phase in my daughter's life. So thinking 711 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: about what's my philosophy on discipline? 712 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 5: Right? 713 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: And am I aligned on this philosophy with my partner, 714 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: my in laws, her caregivers, right, are we all speaking 715 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: the same language, because that is so important that it's 716 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: so important. Also thinking about consequences, right, what are some 717 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: of the consequences going to be for behaviors at this 718 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: particular age and stage. Right when it comes to children, 719 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: consistency is key. Consistency is key adult, to everybody, everybody else, 720 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 2: it will stop child everybody. Consistency is key for everybody. 721 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: You already know because once you let them slive. But 722 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 2: one thing, that one time. They don't think you can 723 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: do it all the time. And in the book I 724 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, one of the things they introduced was this 725 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 2: parenting philosophy and I'm like, okay, I can dig this, 726 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: like I resonate with this. And so they say, from 727 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: zero to six years old this is for governing. Right, 728 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 2: from six to twelve you have gardening, and from twelve 729 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: to eighteen you have guiding. 730 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 5: And I thought this really resonated with me. 731 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 2: They talked about how sometimes people mix it up and 732 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 2: you think that from zero to six you can guide them, 733 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 2: when it's like no, no, no, they need a lot more. 734 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 2: They need some governance in this stage and age. They 735 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 2: don't know they're new blank slates in the world. They 736 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: need some governing, right yep. And then gardening and guiding. 737 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, so I'm still reading the book, 738 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: but learning what that looks like for me and my 739 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 2: life and you know, my partner and my daughter and 740 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: like her stage and age. 741 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 5: So it's interesting. 742 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 2: It's a lot of work, y'all, but it's it's definitely 743 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 2: important because one of the things that I also try 744 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 2: to do dom is I try to parent turn away. 745 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: I try my best to respond to her even when 746 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 2: we're one on one in a way that one if 747 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 2: she remembers it when she's older, she can look back 748 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: on that moment and observe it, and I want it. 749 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 5: I want her to be like my mom did a 750 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 5: good job, you know what I mean. 751 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: I try to do it as if a camera is 752 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: watching me, because I take those those moments are important 753 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: and I try my best to just really do a 754 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: good job. 755 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 4: You know. No, that's real, and I think, you know, 756 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 4: I love that that approach of recognizing that at different 757 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 4: stages you have to show up in a different right. 758 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 4: And so that to me, that governing really makes sense 759 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 4: for that age because, like you said, we laying down 760 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 4: the law because you don't know any other way. But 761 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 4: laying down the law does not require you being overly 762 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 4: aggressive or punitive. Laying down the law is helping them 763 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 4: understand this is how things run. Gardening makes sense because 764 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 4: now we're moving into this stage of I'm planting the 765 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 4: seeds because of the seed, and you're always planting seeds, 766 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 4: but there's a stronger emphasis on planting the seeds because 767 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 4: they're a're absorbing more. And then once they hit that 768 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 4: teenage stage, you're guiding because they are forming their own 769 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 4: opinions and they've taken the seeds that you planted, comparing 770 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 4: that with what's going on around them and trying to 771 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 4: figure it out. And so your role is to guide. 772 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 4: And so your parenting guide is also going to change 773 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 4: at each of those stages, because how you show up 774 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 4: for your two year old is not exactly going to 775 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 4: be the same way that you show up when she's sixteen. 776 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 4: And so then that takes us to practice number six. 777 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 4: Hold space for connection and quality times. You know that 778 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 4: is so important. I mean, all these practices are important, 779 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 4: and I can't trust enough the need for connection and 780 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 4: quality time with your kids, and I want to be 781 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 4: clear that it does not take a lot of money 782 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 4: to connect and have quality time with your kids. Quality 783 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 4: time doesn't even require you to leave the house. Remember, 784 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 4: growing up, I didn't think of it as quality time 785 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 4: at the time, but when I look back on it, 786 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 4: it was for us. Quality time put time for connection 787 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 4: for the whole family. With dinner, we had to all 788 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 4: sit at that same table and eat at the same 789 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 4: time until we got to be teenagers and our schedules 790 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 4: got all over the place. But in those formative years 791 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 4: we all sat down at the table. And now sometimes 792 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 4: the discussion got a little a little out of hand. 793 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 4: Sometimes we were watching usually as we were watching the news, 794 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 4: and then watching like Will of Fortune or whatever came 795 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 4: on after the news, So sometimes we're not like we're 796 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 4: watching the news and discussing what we see on the news. 797 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 4: But that was important time for us to connect. And 798 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 4: I think, you know, one of the things that I 799 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 4: was always grateful for in my relationship with my mom 800 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 4: growing up was that I could always go to her 801 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 4: and talk to her about whatever was on my mind. 802 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 4: And he made faith for that. And so I think 803 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 4: that as kids, you know, as you form your relationship 804 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 4: with your kids, making that time bad time when they're 805 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 4: really little, right, That is time to connect. That is 806 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 4: quality time. Even though on the outside it might feel 807 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 4: like I'm doing this, this is just part of our 808 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 4: regular routine that can become valuable time to really form 809 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 4: those lasting bonds with your kids. Your kids play sports, 810 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 4: you hell, the car rides to pool in the morning. 811 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 4: I know sometimes as parents, you're like thinking about all 812 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 4: the stuff you got to do when you get to 813 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 4: work and you're trying to listen to the Grown Croaks radio. 814 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 4: But maybe while the kids are in the car, that 815 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 4: could be a great time to engage with them. That 816 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 4: might be you know, depending on your schedules, that ten 817 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 4: minute drive to school might be your only time to 818 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 4: connect and it might be valuable time to your kids. 819 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 4: So don't sleep on those small moments throughout your day 820 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 4: to day that could really prove to be long lasing 821 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 4: connection points for you and your child. 822 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh dam you on a girl. Those were such great examples. Oh, 823 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 2: I think about eating dinner as a family. That was 824 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 2: like such a big I don't know, I people do 825 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 2: people shall do that these days? 826 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 5: I don't know. Yeah, I feel like we don't do 827 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 5: it the way that we used to. 828 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 2: But one of the things I've always been a fan 829 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 2: of are like mother child dates and father child dates. 830 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 2: So we used to have like a mother daughter day 831 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,919 Speaker 2: where my sister and I would like go do stuff 832 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 2: with my mom. Or we'd have like a father daughter 833 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 2: date where we go on dates with my dad and 834 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 2: he'd like get us flowers and stuff like that. Those 835 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: were some very special moments that I cherish and always remember. 836 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 2: I remember I used to do that for my siblings 837 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 2: when they were younger as well. And I also think 838 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: that asking about your child's day is so important. Like 839 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 2: I asked my little one about her day, and she 840 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 2: loves to tell me about how she went piety and 841 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 2: she ate strawberries and stuff like that, and it just 842 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 2: gets them in the habit of debriefing, debriefing and sharing 843 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: about their day what came up for them that day. 844 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 2: I would also say that in my experience working with 845 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: young people, young people are often underestimated and feel unseen 846 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,240 Speaker 2: by adults. Having worked with young people and children for years, 847 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 2: what I often hear is like a common point of 848 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 2: feedback is that one they just don't feel like they're heard, 849 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 2: they don't feel like they have space to share. Adults 850 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 2: either try to always preach to them. And the thing 851 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: about kids, kids are smart as hell. They have real feelings, emotions, 852 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 2: and perspectives, and we should hold space for that and 853 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 2: just let them talk, let them just listen and let 854 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 2: them talk, and try our best not to get angry 855 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 2: or upset, because I remember when I was younger, my 856 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 2: mom used to always tell us like, oh, you can 857 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 2: come to tell me anything, and then we would come 858 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: and tell ourselff snap on us. 859 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 5: And we'd be like, well, damn you said we could 860 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 5: tell you anything. But we were trying to be open. 861 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 2: And I've learned with my siblings, woo child. I done 862 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 2: told them over the years that they could tell me anything, 863 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 2: and they didn't told me anything. 864 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 5: And I've held space for them. 865 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 2: And I appreciate the fact that I feel so honored 866 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 2: that I'm the first person that they come to these 867 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 2: days when they have something really big in their life 868 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 2: that they want to share, you know, with someone. And 869 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 2: sometimes I'm not always happy about it, but they know 870 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 2: that there's a safe space. I'm gonna keep it real, 871 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it a buck, and I'm gona, you know, 872 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 2: let them know what it is. But I also hold 873 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 2: space in a loving way, so they know that this 874 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 2: is safe and you can come to me and I'm 875 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 2: going to be honest with you, you know, So that's 876 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 2: really important. Now we're gonna go a quick recap, and 877 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 2: I know you might be like, wait, what about number seven. 878 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 2: We're going to tell you about number seven and just 879 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 2: a bit now I'm anything else to add to number six? 880 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 5: Or should we do our recap. 881 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 4: Let's do a recap. 882 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 2: Let's do recap, all right? So practice number one is 883 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 2: cultivating mindfulness. Practice number two is prioritizing self care. Practice 884 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 2: number three always be learning. Practice number four add affirmations 885 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: to your daily routine. Practice number five creating every evolving 886 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 2: parenting guide. Practice number six hold space for connection and 887 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 2: quality time. And for practice number seven. Well, lady, we 888 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 2: know you got your own tips. We know you have 889 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 2: some best practices that you might want to share. So 890 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 2: go to our Instagram at her Space podcast and scroll down. 891 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: Depending on when you watch this or listen to this episode, 892 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 2: scroll down to the red square and look at the caption. 893 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 5: It'll tell you what to do. 894 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 2: And drop your number seven on the caption so we 895 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 2: can all share together. 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