1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are coming off the 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Ravens preseason finale loss the Green Bay Packers thirty to seven, 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: in which we are going to break down the fifty 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: three man roster and give you our predictions for who's 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: gonna make the team. So, first of all, Garrett, there 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: was a preseason game played here today. You know, obviously 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: it's on to the Kansas City Chiefs at this point, 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: September fifth is the focus. You kind of I'm not 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: a great game for the Ravens in the preseason finale. 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: You don't like to have a thirty to seven loss, 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: but they're also not gonna, you know, Fred, over this 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: one for too long. It's onto forming the roster and 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: then focus on the Chiefs. 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I don't think the Ravens look great today, 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: but I also don't think you're gonna lose any sleepover it. 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: And that was kind of the message I think from 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: John Harbaugh afterwards. You know, he said, well, we played 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: the Chiefs in twelve days. You know, that's the the focus. 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: And so I guess to some degree, losing thirty to 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: seven to close out the preseason leaves somewhat of a 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: sour taste in your mouth, but you can get over 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: it pretty quickly when you know that the starter's gonna 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: be on the field next time you play, and you're 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: opening the NFL season and it's AFC Championship rematch and 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: all that stuff. I don't think this is going to linger. 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: I know, I think by the time these guys are 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: back in Baltimore, it's gonna be, you know, all eyes 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: on the Kansas City Chiefs, if not earlier than that. 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: So, I mean, everybody knows that this third preseason games 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: about the backups, and primarily about the backups and then 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: who ekes out those last one to three spots on 33 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster if that, and so there 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: was news on that front. You know, the two injuries 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: that the Ravens had really three injuries in this game, 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: one of which is pretty serious. That's a broken foot 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: for running back Owen Wright, which is really a bummer. 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Local Bees, the Maryland product, who was really making a 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: strong roster push for that number three running back spot, 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: might have taken it after mostly spending last year on 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens practice squad. I thought he had a really 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: good summer, So it's it's a tough break literally for 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: owen Wright with his foot. 44 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I mean, I think the biggest impact from 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: this game deals with the guys rather than talking about 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: the significance of the game from a big picture standpoint, 47 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: it's those guys who were fighting for the spot, So 48 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: owen Wright being that kind of the leader of that conversation, 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: but also the rookie seventh round pick Nick Saymac. He 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: you know, he got hurt in this game. Don't know 51 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: the severity of that, who was grabbing his foot and 52 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: ended up getting carted from the sideline into the locker room, 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: So you know, didn't like seeing that. And then Trayvon Mullen, 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: a cornerback John Harball said after the game that looked 55 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: like he dislocated his shoulder. He had dealt with a 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: shoulder injury earlier in camp as well, and Harball did 57 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: not have an update on the status of Saymac and 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: the severity of that. He you know, he was somebody 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: who actually he was kind of slow out of the 60 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: gate because he had a leg injury coming out of college. 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: It happened late last season, and so you know, he 62 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: he over the course of the last week had really 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: kind of started to, I think, feel more and more 64 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: like himself. So tough injury for him in this game. Again, 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: don't know the severity of that, but you know, that's. 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: That's the guy that was pushing for the fifty things. 67 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: I think over the past, you know, a couple of weeks, 68 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, John Harball really started coming out of that 69 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: second preseason game against the Falcons, in which John Harball said, yeah, 70 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: Nick same Act played pretty well in that game. And 71 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: then he started getting first team reps. Considering that Tyler 72 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: Linderbaum's been sidelined with the neck injury and Sam Act 73 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: running with the first team for a seventh or on rookie, 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: that's impressive. And and I thought he was practicing pretty well, 75 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and I thought he you know, made some had some 76 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: good moments here in the preseason finale before his injury, 77 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: So that that's tough for him. 78 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to see those guys who are fighting 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: for those last couple of spots get get hurt in 80 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: this game. So I mean, I think that's those are 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: the main thing. And then and I think from from 82 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: the last thing, I would say is just like you 83 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: have your last chance to win a spot, you know, 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: rather than the injury piece, you have players who are 85 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: competing for those last couple of spots, and that can 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: go either way. You know, a guy like Bo Braid 87 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: or a guy like Devin Leary. Those are players who 88 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: are kind of competing for some of those last spots, 89 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: and this is the last chance to show the coaches 90 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: that you can you know, you can make the team, 91 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: or that they decide, you know, we rather go in 92 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: another direction. 93 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: Right, My My final takeaway on the game is the 94 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: offensive line and and we don't we still don't know 95 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: who those starters are gonna be out there week one. 96 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly who's been playing in the preseason games, 97 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: uh that that's been Andrew Voorhe's at left guard, it's 98 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: been Daniel fa at right guard, and Roger roseen Garten 99 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: got the start at right tackle. That that seems like 100 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: from practice and game lineups that that would be the 101 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: three guys. That would be three guys stepping into those 102 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: starting positions alongside Ronnie Stanley and obviously Tyler Linderbaum who's 103 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: expected to be back for Week one from his neck injury. 104 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: So you know, those guys started this preseason game, and 105 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: I would not I would not say that the offensive 106 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: line performed to a level where you're like, oh yeah, okay, 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: those guys really separated, really claim that those jobs right. 108 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: With the way the offensive line blocked, there was nothing 109 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: doing in the running game early on in this game. 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: I think I charted it for eleven runs for twenty 111 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: yards in the game, completely so, and one of those 112 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: was an eight yard run. So outside of that eight 113 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: yard run, they really did not have much going on 114 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: on the run blocking front. There was. They were better 115 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: in pass protection, particularly the long touchdown pass the Talon loss. 116 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: They had some really good blocking on that one. I'm sorry. 117 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: The Ravens first six carries went for ten yards. That's 118 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: the stat for you there on the the offensive line 119 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: run blocking, and that's that's basically the starting offensive's my 120 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: starting offensive. 121 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: Semi semi starting. Knowing that it's exactly paying exactly. 122 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: I mean, what it boils down to is if those 123 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: are the guys in those three starting position, you had 124 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: three of your five starting offensive linemen playing against Packers backups, 125 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: and it didn't look great. And so you know, we've 126 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: rung done a lot of handwringing about the state of 127 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens offensive line. You know, is it gonna be 128 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: up to snuff against the Chiefs Week one. I would 129 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: not say that the preseason finale gave me a roaring 130 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: confidence coming out of this game that, oh yeah, we 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: got the guys not to worry. As we said this 132 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: whole time. It's a young line, There's no doubt about it. 133 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to get better as the season goes along. 134 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: But you know, did they do enough in the preseason? 135 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Did fot Leyley do enough? Did Worhe's have a good 136 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: enough preseason games? Did Roger Rosegarten play well enough at 137 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: right tackle to really claim those jobs? Or does Pat 138 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: McCarey need to step in. Do we see benk Cleveland 139 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: step in and play as a starting one of those 140 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: starters on the offensive line. I don't know, you know, 141 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: but but I wouldn't say that somebody anybody really went 142 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: aheading and really claimed that fought Leiley had a false 143 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: start on the opening drive. As I said, the run 144 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: black and wasn't great. Passpords pro was better. 145 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the last I guess thought on the offensive line, 146 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: it was maybe the biggest mishap for the group was 147 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: really the second team offensive line in large measure, and 148 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: it was with Josh Jones is that left tackle, and 149 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: seemed to be a miscommunication there. I don't know exactly 150 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: what went wrong, but there was an unblocked guy coming 151 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: off the edge and sacked Strip, sacked Devin Leary for 152 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 2: a touchdown the other direction. That's not what you want. 153 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: As it stands today, it looks like Josh Jones is 154 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: the backup Ronnie Stanley at left tackle, and he's a 155 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: veteran player you know, that's played in the league, so 156 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: you know that is exactly what you don't want to 157 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: see on the offensive line. So all of those things 158 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: that we're talking about our areas that the Ravens are 159 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: going to go to work on and work to improve 160 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: between now and facing the Chiefs in a few days. 161 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. So you know with that though, we said, 162 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: with focus now is the fifty three man rosters. So 163 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and when we come back, 164 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: we have our fifty three man rosters. An ink, you're 165 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: just an ink. 166 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: I got the pen he locked? 167 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: All right? Your put your Herbie Hancock on that. There's 168 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: no change, all right. 169 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: You're listening to Lounge Podcasts for coming to you from 170 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: the Sea Geek Studio. You also want to give ahout 171 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: out to our friends at Draft King sports Book. They 172 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: are an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens 173 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: Draft Kings Sports Book. The Crown is yours. So Ryan 174 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: and I want to give you our fifty three man 175 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: roster predictions. The deadline here is Tuesday at four o'clock. 176 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: That's when all cuts need to be made, and then 177 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: the practice squad gets filled out over the course of 178 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: the next day. So you know, the Ravens basically between 179 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: now and the Tuesday, they're going to go to work 180 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: on making these last couple of decisions. Injuries could play 181 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: a part in it, but we want to give you 182 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: our best predictions as it stands right now. So let's 183 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: just start on the offensive side of the ball. At quarterback, 184 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm going two quarterbacks. It's Lamar and Josh Johnson. For me. 185 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: I do not have the Ravens keeping a third quarterback, 186 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: which you know they've they've done. They did that last year. 187 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: Devin Leary, the rookie six round pick. You know, it 188 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: was a rough preseason finale for him through a couple 189 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: of picks have the strip sack was not his fault, 190 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: but did have that strip sack. 191 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Well, unless unless the protections weren't right right, that's true, 192 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: pull out the productions. 193 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 2: We don't know, Yeah, but it was a it was 194 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: a rough finale for him. I think that he could 195 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: certainly land on the practice squad as a developmental quarterback 196 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: six round pick, and I don't know that he would 197 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 2: get picked up elsewhere. So I have the Raves going 198 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: two qbs. 199 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: I've been also going with two quarterbacks, but I don't 200 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: know that it's a slam dunk that Devin Leary beats 201 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: out Emory Jones for the practice squad spot, you know, yeah, 202 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: who won the competition, you know, I mean I wouldn't 203 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: say that Leary had, you know, in practice or in games, 204 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: really stood out from Emory Jones. And in the preseason 205 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: Leary went fifteen to twenty eight for ninety five yards. 206 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: And the two picks here in the finale, Emery Jones 207 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: was coming off a game in which he threw a 208 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: long touchdown pass. So I don't know that that's a 209 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: clear cut I probably would lean towards Leary just because 210 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: he was a draft pick that I think you know, 211 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: T Martin, the Ravens quarterbacks coach, was really fired up 212 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: to get and work with. But Embray Jones has been 213 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: pretty good too, so I don't know that's clear cut. 214 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: Yep. All right, So moving on to running back, and 215 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: I think this is where it starts to get a 216 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: little bit more interesting. I'm sure we obviously both have 217 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: Patrick Riccart on the team, Derek Henry and Justice Hill, 218 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: and I have the Ravens keeping Rashen Ali, fifth round 219 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: rookie who we did not see in the preseason finale. Honestly, 220 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: I think I had Owen right on there before the 221 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: injury over Ali. I thought Owen right, you know, maybe 222 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: outplayed him in the preseason and in camp. And Ali 223 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: is also dealt with an injury over the course of 224 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: the summer. Not sure the full status of that. You know, 225 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: he didn't play, so I don't know if that's just 226 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: being cautious or what the situation is there. If he's injured, 227 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: that can obviously change things. But I have the Ravens 228 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: going with those three running backs and Ali being the third. 229 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: So I also have those three running backs. But the 230 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: question becomes is Rashin a Lee going to be healthy enough. 231 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: You know he's returned to practice, but is he healthy 232 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: enough to play in a game he did not play 233 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: in the preseason finale? Is he healthy enough to play 234 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: in the Week one game? And have you seen enough? 235 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: Do you have enough trust that he can serve as 236 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: your number three running back just in case there were 237 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: an injury to one of the other running backs. It 238 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: would not surprise me if John Kelly landed on the 239 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: practice squad and then was elevated for that game and 240 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: served in the game as the number three running back. 241 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: That's what I think could have happened with Owen Wright, 242 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: even though yeah, and practice in preseason games he outperformed 243 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: Rashina Lee. But it wouldn't have surprised me if he 244 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: didn't make the fifty three but was carried on the 245 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: practice squad and elevated as one of those veteran elevations 246 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: from the peace squad to basically serve on game day 247 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: as the number three back. But then you still get 248 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: to carry Rashina Lee on the roster. 249 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say that there's always been There's always 250 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: movement from an injury standpoint or practice squad that makes 251 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: the last couple of spots difficult. I think it's become 252 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: even more challenging, honestly to get the fifty three man 253 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: exactly right. A couple of things I wanted to we 254 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: should have mentioned off the top. One is a new 255 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: rule this year allows teams to carry two players off 256 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: the bat on injured reserve who are designated to return. 257 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: And so you can say, like you can say right away, 258 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: these two guys are putting on injured reserve, we're designating 259 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: to them or to the return, but they don't have 260 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: to be carried on the initial fifty three. Previously, that's 261 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: what they had to do. So there's some more flexibility 262 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: that teams have this year that essentially gives them more 263 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: roster spots off the bat. And then what you're talking 264 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: about from a practice squad elevation standpoint, you know, the 265 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: Ravens have done a ton of that over the over 266 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: the last few years since that has become a big 267 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: part of the equation of calling guys up and you 268 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: get a few practice squad elevations a year, and so 269 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: they make sure that they use those. So I absolutely 270 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: think that that could be a piece of the equation 271 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 2: in the roster maneuvering. So I just think that like, 272 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: as you're as we're building this out, you can certainly 273 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: see guys who end up playing in week one who 274 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: are either on the practice squad, who are on the 275 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: practice squad, who are on the fifty three, but they 276 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: end up playing because of that practice squad elevation. 277 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree with that. 278 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: Let's move to tight end. I feel like this one 279 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: is probably not quick wide receiver. 280 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: Alright. 281 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you want to just you know, 282 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: want to just all right end tight end? All right, 283 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: tight end. We both have Andrews likely and Cohler. I'm 284 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: sure right, no surprise care I think you know Kadeer Shmael. 285 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: I think I had a strong training camp, and I 286 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: think that he is a really he's got a good 287 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: shot to land on the practice squad. In my mind, 288 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: I was impressed with him. Didn't think he's got a 289 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: very good shot. 290 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: Scotty Washington suffered an injury uh and and was released 291 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: from the team with an injury settlement, So that to me, 292 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: he was competing with Scotty Washington for a practice squad 293 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: spot much of much of the way here in training camp, 294 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: and that kind of cleared this the way I think 295 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: for his practice squad deal. 296 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Kadeer will be on the practice squad, 297 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: which is which says a lot about him as a 298 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: guy that came in here former quarterback, hasn't starts as 299 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: wide receiver, then moves to tight end, and I think 300 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: that speaks to the potential that he has and also 301 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: how much he impressed everybody during training camp. Yep, I agree, 302 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: all right, so wide receiver, Uh, let's go. I think 303 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: with the obvious, which is Zay Flowers, Rashad Bateman, Nelson Aguilart, 304 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: Devontes Walker as as four correct. 305 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: Yep. 306 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: I also have Tyler Wallace if if you need to. 307 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: I had Tyler Wallace on before the game. But if 308 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: you had any doubt, I think he erased that with 309 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: that big play touchdown that he had, just as a 310 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: little reminder there if you guys were thinking about not 311 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: putting me on, you know, here's a reminder what I 312 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: can do. 313 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Not to mention he's just been a steady performer in practices, 314 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: what he offers on special teams. I think that he's 315 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: just as he's won a job. 316 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had him on even before the game, but 317 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: I just think that, yeah, if there was any doubt, 318 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: I think he erased that. 319 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: Yep, bulls done to that. 320 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: And then Deontay Hardy I have on as a returner 321 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: primarily but also can can be a factor on offense 322 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: as well. So I have six receivers. Do you have that? 323 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: Do you have any nobody else? 324 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: No? I mean the one, the tough one is Wade 325 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Dayton Wade, you know, the undrafted rookie you didn't really have. 326 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he almost came up with a ridiculous touchdown 327 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: catch on a ball that almost got intercepted twice, and 328 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: then he almost plucked off the grass for a touchdown 329 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: but was overturned upon review. I don't have him on 330 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: my fifty three. You know, the spot that he would 331 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: take would be as a returner. They've been pretty adamant 332 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: that Deontay Hardy is going to be the returner, So 333 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that they give that to Wade. Despite 334 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, some flashy plays in the preseason, it wasn't 335 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: like he was completely dominant, and you're like, we just 336 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: cannot absolutely risk losing this guy. I'd love to keep 337 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: him on the practice practice squad. I hope he stays. 338 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that he quite did enough to make 339 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: the fifty three. 340 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've got the exact same fifty three at 341 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: this point, and now he moved to the offensive line, 342 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: and I feel like this could be where things we'll 343 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: see if we end. 344 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Up with the same fifty three man routes in particularly. 345 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: Did we did not compare notes before. By the way, 346 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: we did not compare notes, just so the listeners are 347 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: aware of this. 348 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: That's we would I think we would have had a 349 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: difference on running back because you were gonna keep Owen 350 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: right on the fifty three. I was not gonna keep 351 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Owen right on the fifty three and do my whole 352 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: practice squad elevation. See, you were gonna fall into that trap. 353 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: But then the injury saved you from yourself. You know, 354 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: bummer Fowen right, but it allowed you to get closer 355 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: on your fifty. 356 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Three already, Like you're making excuses here. 357 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm not making an excuse. I was like talking to 358 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: you about that before we taped and talking some reasoning 359 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: into you. And I shouldn't have been doing that. I 360 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: was helping you out. 361 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: Well we'll never know, all right, So offensive line, we're 362 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: both gonna have the guys who look like they're gonna 363 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: be the starters Ronnie Stanley, Andrew Vorhees, Tyler Lindarbaum, Daniel Foleile, 364 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: Roger Rosengart, and Patrick Mcarrey. Those are six. Locke Science 365 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: still on delivered. Josh Jones, I think is also definitely 366 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: on the team as a backup left tackle as well. 367 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: So that now I think it gets a little bit 368 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: more interesting. I had Ben Cleveland on. 369 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: I think Cleveland's pretty close to a lock. 370 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: I think Ben Cleveland is you know, he was playing 371 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: in the second half of this game. You know, Cleveland 372 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: is interesting. He really did not get much of a 373 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: shot at right guard in camp where it seemed like 374 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: coming into it, Oh, this guy is probably the maybe 375 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: the favorite to win the right guard job, and he 376 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: really didn't take many first team reps there. I don't 377 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: know if he's ultimately gonna find himself getting more of 378 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: a chance as a starter, but he hasn't at this point, 379 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: and so I think he's a backup. I think he's 380 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: a backup guard and a backup center. I think that's 381 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: where it stands for him right now. 382 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: Ye, I think he's on the fifty three though, I. 383 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: Think he is on the fifty three as well. So 384 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: then that's eight. 385 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Yep. 386 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: Who else do you got? You stop there? You keep going, 387 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: I kept going. 388 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: I put Tayshawn Manning on my fifty three. I fact 389 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: that I think he's just beaten out Sala for that 390 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: ninth spot, plain and simple. I saw a good block 391 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: right at the end of the game by Tayshawn Manning. 392 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: It was not a great play otherwise for the offensive line. 393 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: It was a I think it was a run for 394 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: no yardage. But Tashon Manning pick just dominated his guy, 395 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: and so uh, you know, I just think that I 396 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if that spot, if the ninth spot 397 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: goes to somebody else, that that's an offensive lineman to 398 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: be named. You know that that shakes loose from somewhere 399 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: else in the Ravens go pick up a veteran somewhere. 400 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: That would not surprise me. But right now, if I'm 401 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: picking from these guys, I think Tayshawn Manning did enough 402 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: to win that job. I have. 403 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: I also have Tayshaun Manning and Sala. You put them both, 404 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: you have ten started starting. No, no, no, I have 405 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: Tayshawn Manning over Salah. 406 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so I agree. 407 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: With you, But then I do have nick saymac on 408 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: not knowing the severity of that injury, I don't know 409 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: how that plays out, like like he got carted off 410 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: the field, It got carter from the bench to the 411 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: you know, end of the locker room. Don't like to 412 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: see that. But you know, then after the game, John 413 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: Harball says that you know, doesn't have an update on it. 414 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: So I don't know what the severity of that injury is. 415 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: If it's major, then that would change this. But you know, 416 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: you could put him on. You could then put them 417 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: on if you even if you use the IR designated 418 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: to return spots on other players, you could put them 419 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: on initially and then move him to IR if he's 420 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: if it's a multi week situation. 421 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: So I gave him my IR designation. 422 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, So then so you can have two of 423 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: those guys that get ird right now before you set 424 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: your fifty three. 425 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: Yep, I gave that one spot to him. 426 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: So basically we're saying the same thing with Samak but and. 427 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: He's probably going to IR, but you're carrying him for now. 428 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: Correct, correct? All right, So now let's flip it over 429 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: to the defense and. 430 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: All right, so let's note it you got you have 431 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: ten linemen on, Okay, I have that's one, yeah, one 432 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: player that I'm glad we have a difference, all right, 433 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: go ahead. 434 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So defensive line, let's start there, Mattabek, Pierce, 435 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: Travis Jones. Yes, where we agree there, Progerck Washington on 436 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: and I had Brent Urban. In the past couple of years, 437 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: the Ravens have done the old handshake deal with Brent 438 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: Urban where it's you know that he gets cut and 439 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: then he's back, you know, twenty four hours later. As 440 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: a vested veteran, he doesn't have to pass through waivers 441 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: and he can he can he can just return. So 442 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: I felt like, I mean, that could happen, you know, 443 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: especially if they felt like they needed an extra spot, 444 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: you know, for say Maac, like we were just talking 445 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: about to carry him initially and then put him on 446 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: IR or something like that. So I think that that's 447 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: still on the table. 448 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: But you don't have you don't have to do you don't, Yeah, 449 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: exactly as much need this year to they kind of 450 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: close that loophole. At least that's the intention, right, He's 451 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: to close that loophole to prevent teams from doing that. 452 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: So I don't If you don't need to do it, 453 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: then you don't do it. And so both of us 454 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: have him on the question. 455 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: Is there's really kind of three guys for if you're 456 00:20:54,320 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: including Tampa with kind of injury questions, who would be 457 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: in that fifty three man roster picture, right, and that's 458 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: Nick Samak Odissa Isaac, Arthur Mullett and TJ. Tampa. 459 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: So the question is what do you do with those guys? 460 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: I think, and also how long are they out exactly? 461 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't really know. We don't know 462 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 1: on Samak or Adisa. Uh, you know TJ. Tampa returns 463 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: of practice, so that's really good. Yeah, there's questions there. 464 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean honestly, one other one not to mud 465 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: the water is too much here. That is also maybe 466 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: in that mix is rash Rashin Ali. Now he has practiced, 467 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: but you know, didn't play in the preseason game. I'm 468 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: not sure if that's injury related or not, but you know, 469 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: he could maybe be in that mix as well. So 470 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: you know, you have you. 471 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: Have those those put him on our fifty three because 472 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: right now, well, I mean, like I said, I wouldn't 473 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: be surprised if John Kelly were the three number three 474 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: running back Week one, but but a LEAs still in 475 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: the fifty three. 476 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 2: All right, So so going back to defensive line, we 477 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: have the same five BK Pierce, Travis Jones, Urban PROGERC Washington. 478 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Correct. 479 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: You know, I honestly wondered, like, could any of those others, 480 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: you know, could you carry an extra defensive lineman? But 481 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: I just felt like that's the five, and I didn't 482 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: really see another a strong candidate necessary to put on, 483 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: certainly over any of those, but over any of the 484 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: other Ross spots as well. All right, linebacker inside linebackers 485 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 2: Rokwan Smith and Trenton Simpson. Yes, and yes, Malie Harrison. 486 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: You know he's kind of a do it all linebacker, 487 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: but we both I'm sure have him on and I 488 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: have Chris bord On. That's my four. 489 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. I carried Adisa on the fifty three. Uh not 490 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: with the IR designation. 491 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: Are you Adisa? Are you kind of him? Is it 492 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: inside linebacker? 493 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh? I'm sorry, I'm carry I was just talking linebackers. Okay, so, 494 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: but I'm carrying Josh Ross though as the inside linebacker. 495 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 2: Okay. Interesting, That's what I was wondering about. If you, 496 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: so you kept Josh Ross. 497 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: Josh Ross, I think, you know, I mean, especially if 498 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: Adessa is not healthy early on in the season, Malik's 499 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: playing a lot of outside linebacker. Yeah, if Malik's playing 500 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: really outside linebacker, that leaves you with three inside linebackers. Yeah, right, 501 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: Roquan Trenton and Chris Board. And Chris Board's mostly a 502 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: special teams guy. I mean, so is Josh Ross. But 503 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: I think especially with special teams, you know, you want big, 504 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: big dudes. It's a physical it's a wrestling match out 505 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: there on the With the new dynamic kickoff, I kind 506 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: of feel like you could keep extra linebackers. Uh and 507 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: and so I kept Josh Ross on the fifty three. 508 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's also one. I would wonder could 509 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: you get him on the practice squad and do the 510 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: elevation thing early in the year. You know, I think that, 511 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: like you could he's a potential in that category. Two. 512 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I right, I agree. I probably don't think 513 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: that Josh Ross. You know, it's not like he's made 514 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: splash plays in the preseason. It's not a guy that 515 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: has a ton of tape out there, So could you 516 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: get him back? I think there's a potential for that 517 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: for sure. 518 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's a difference for us. Right now, 519 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: you have him, you have him on, and I have 520 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: Saymac on you know basically all right outside linebacker Ada 521 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: fe Oway yes, of course, and childban nouy. Both of 522 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: us have them, David Ajabo, Tavius Robinson. 523 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: Those four yep, correct, yep. 524 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: I have I have a dsa Isaac for me as 525 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 2: one of those IR designated to returns. 526 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: That's our other difference. I have him just on and 527 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: and now you could you could once he makes it 528 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: fifty three again, like you're saying with Saymac, you could 529 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: put him on the fifty three. But like to me, 530 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: we don't know how long his I think John Harball 531 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: said it was a soft tissue issue is going to be. 532 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: But like you need him more than you need Semac. Right, 533 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: So if like there's a chance that to me that 534 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: a desa Isaac could get back two weeks from now 535 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: and play week two or week three, because you put 536 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: them on IR, they're gone for the first four weeks. 537 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: If a desa Isaac can play week two, week three, 538 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: week four, like, I'm gonna keep him on the fifty 539 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: three because I think you need a little bit. You 540 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: could use him in that outside linebacker depth more than 541 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: you could use Saymac Honestly, I think, yeah, I. 542 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: Think a lot of it just comes down to the 543 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 2: injury status. Like so Desa Isaac. He you know, he 544 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: was basically sidelined the entire offseason and then the started 545 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: training camp. He came back and he started to look 546 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: pretty good, and he played in that second preseason game. 547 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: And really flashed. 548 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he looked pretty good in that second 549 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: preseason game, and then and then at the end of it, 550 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 2: you know, then he's then he comes down, you know, 551 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: gets nicked up again, and then he was he was 552 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: back on the shelf, and. 553 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: And you know it's a different it's a different leg 554 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: than his first injury was. And John Harwall said it 555 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: won't sideline him for as long as his first one was. 556 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: But we don't know how what that timetable. 557 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: Is, right, right, And so you know we're kind of 558 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: guessing there, both of us, you know, with the Samac 559 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: or aedisa injury wise, but you know, we have the 560 00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: same thought there, just a different means of getting there exactly. So. 561 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: But the one the other thing that I have that's 562 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: which this this may surprise you. And maybe I'm just 563 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: feeling the good energy of the performance in the final 564 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: preseason game. I've got Joe Evans making the team. Initially, Wow, 565 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: so Evans Evans, had Evans had you know, a really strong, 566 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: a really strong preseason finale there got after the quarterback 567 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: a couple of times. I thought it looked pretty good. 568 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: And so if the Ravens need depth there in my mind, 569 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: if in my mind, Ads, Isaac is going on this IR, 570 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: so you don't have you need somebody there, you know, 571 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: to me, like again, if you're putting Isaac on that IR, 572 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: on IR designated to return, then you need some depth there. 573 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: And I'm giving it to Joe Evans. Maybe I'm also 574 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: interescised by you know, if you haven't seen it yet, 575 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: we posted the clip from a team meeting. You know, 576 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: during these team meetings, they have some really fun stuff 577 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: and they kind of do a basketball shootout thing. The 578 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: guy gets up says their school and signing bonus, and 579 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: then they've got to put the pressure on them and 580 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 2: see if they can make any foul shots in front 581 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: of the whole team with a basketball hoop in there. 582 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 2: And Joe Evans, who knew, you know, the Iowa guy. 583 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: I guess he's got some Caitlyn Clark rowing off on 584 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: him from a from a shooting standpoint, and uh, he 585 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 2: knocked down every shot. Team went crazy. We put that 586 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: clip out this week and it's gonna be featured in 587 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: in Ravens Wired uh this week, which is gonna come 588 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: out on Wednesday, So make sure you check that out. 589 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: But maybe I'm just just feeling the energy from that 590 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: clip and from the preseason finale. But I've got Evans 591 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: on okay, all right? 592 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean I like Joe Evans. He seems like the 593 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: veterans like him, like they talk, have spoken highly of him. 594 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: But I think that Malik Harrison can play outside linebacker 595 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: and be your fourth outside linebacker to begin the season 596 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: alongside our dafe Oa Tavius sorry fifth Odafe Tavius, Ojabo 597 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: van Noy and Malik Harrison. Like to me, you have 598 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: enough outside linebackers that you don't have to carry. 599 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: Then you just made the case. So they were they 600 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: needed a desa Isaac early from a depth standpoint, didn't 601 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: you just make that case? Now you're they don't need 602 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: the depth? 603 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: Well when he comes back like they could definitely use 604 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: him because they want Malik not to be locked in 605 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: an outside linebacker, right, But I kept I kept an 606 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: additional inside linebacker to kind of make up up for 607 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: that line, right, whereas you're keeping the undrafted rookie. I 608 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: kept Josh. 609 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: Ross basically you I kept. I kept Joe Evans. You 610 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: kept Josh Ross. 611 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: That's correct, all right. 612 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: So now let's go to cornerback, Okay, Marlon Humphrey, Brandon 613 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: Stevens of course, uh, Jalen armor Davis, We're both gonna 614 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: have him on. I am using an IR designated to 615 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: return spot on Arthur Maulett. Ye, same thing for you. 616 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: Ye. 617 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: Reports saw that he would be back kind of you know, 618 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: after a couple of weeks of the regular season. But 619 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: I've got him, uh, with that IR designated to return spot, 620 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: all right. Then I have Pepe Williams, Nate Wiggans of 621 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: course on. I have TJ. Tampa on yep. So again 622 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: not sure like the full injury status he had that 623 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, that hernia surgery. I think it was coming 624 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: in camp, but he's been on the practice field. But 625 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: I've got him on. I have Pepe Williams on. You 626 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: do as well? He was on the bubble, and I 627 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: don't think he had a great preseason finale, but I 628 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: think that he's been pretty good throughout training camp. You know, 629 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: give up a touchdown in the game, so I think 630 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: that he's you know, he's on the bubble. 631 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I had him pretty firmly on before 632 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: this preseason game. It was a tough preseason finale for him, 633 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: but I don't think it was like one one rough 634 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: outing is going to change that calculation. 635 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: And so do you have anybody else? So with Brandon Stevens, 636 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: Jeder Davis, Nate Wagan's, Marlon Humphrey, Pepe Williams, t J Tampa. 637 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm putting bow Braid on the team. 638 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, okay, now you're on safety. Now you're moving to 639 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: safety on me, just give you switching positions. 640 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I got more corners. 641 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: I don't have got Justin Tucker on you just start 642 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: naming off rang. 643 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't have any quarners. I don't have any more quarners. 644 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: Well, I also have bo Braid on the team, so 645 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: we're we have the same group of corners. Now let's 646 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: move to safety and would go backwards up we both 647 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: I have bow Braid on the team as well. 648 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: I okay, yes, I'm sorry, I'm plumbing it up. I apologize. 649 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: Oh all right. 650 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: So they're all in the same clump like my roster, 651 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: my printout roster. Okay, this is what guy to explain 652 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: where I'm coming from. All the linebackers and all the 653 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: dbs are in the same bracket on the printout roster. 654 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm using the depth chart roster, the depth chart. Okay, 655 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: so we're using different stuff. Alright, let's try to just 656 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: keep naming all of guys on our different positions, same 657 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: box for me. All right, So bo Braid on. You know, 658 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: look I thought bo braid he looked good to me 659 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: in the press finale. He came down hill, made a 660 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: tackle for loss. He's been playing with physicality. John Harbaugh 661 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: praised him for that. Almost had an interception last week 662 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: in the preseason game. So I just think that. I 663 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: just think he played his way onto the team as 664 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: training camp went along. 665 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I agree with that, and not just train camp. I 666 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: think the preseason, right, I mean that's what to me. 667 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: Put him on the team, led the tackle, led the 668 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: team in tackles for the second straight game, and you know, 669 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to game time, what are you putting 670 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: out there? And I thought bo Braid did well, put 671 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: good film on tape. And you know, here's a guy 672 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: that was expected to be an early day three pick. 673 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 1: You know, you look at the draft rankings, you know 674 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: he was. He was pretty high up there among safeties 675 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: and the Ravens were able to get him undrafted. That 676 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: was kind of a gamble they went in to that 677 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: seventh round they were going to pick a safety and 678 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: they went with Snoozy Kane instead of bo Braid. You know, 679 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: I think thinking that hey, Maryland product will have a 680 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: decent chance of getting them undrafted, that was a good calculation. 681 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: They got him. I think it was a good competition 682 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: between he and Sanousy Kane, but in my opinion, bo 683 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: Braid won that that competition. And so you know, I 684 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: don't have Sanousi Kane on the team. I like Sanusie. 685 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: I hope that the Ravens can keep him. Personally, I 686 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: want to keep both those guys. But I gave the 687 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: nods to bow Braid. 688 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you really on everything there. And Caine, 689 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: you know, he I thought was better early on. Then 690 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: he did come down with a you know, an injury. 691 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: After that first preseason game and then Bo Braid took 692 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: advantage of the opportunity. So I think if you can 693 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 2: get Kan on the practice squad, if we're both correct 694 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: here and that Braid makes it over Kane, I think 695 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: you certainly try to do that, And and I like Kane. 696 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: So then just to round out the safety position, Kyle Hamilton, 697 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: Marcus Williams, of course, Eddie Jackson, and ar Darius Washington. 698 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: Those are the other four. 699 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: Now, as you know, we put him in the safety bucket. 700 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: I think he's more of a slot corner, really stepping 701 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: in that Mullette spot. Yeah, I think he is too 702 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: and to me that and to me and especially with Pepe, 703 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think Pepe is on the fifty three. 704 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: But I think Ardarius Washington's getting reps over him right 705 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: in a in a in a regular season and so 706 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: really then that does open up a spot for another 707 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: safety to make the fifty three. You know, I don't 708 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: think that Bow Braid or Sanoosy kanor slam Dunks. You know, 709 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here picking between the two. Both of them 710 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: might not make it. But in my opinion, because of 711 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: the injury to Mullet and because I think that they 712 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: have ard Aris Washington over Pepe at slat corner. That 713 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: opens up another spot for another defensive back of safety 714 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: and I gave that to breath. 715 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: Daryl Whorley veteran I don't have on the fifty three, 716 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: but I do think that he's a fairly logical veteran 717 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: practice squad guy who could who could be one of 718 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: those game day elevations as we talked about earlier. And 719 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: he's he's been a good special team or he's played 720 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: you know, plenty of snaps in the NFL over the 721 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: course of his career. So I think he could he 722 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: could end up back on the practice squad. He's you know, 723 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: he's been around here for a few years, and so 724 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: I think that he could he could still end up 725 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: playing snaps for this team this year and then to 726 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: round out special teams. Uh, that's an easy one. Jordan Stout, 727 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: Justin Tucker, Nick Moore, yep. So the difference between us 728 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: is Joe Evans for me and Nick sameac, and you 729 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: have Josh Ross. 730 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: Well basically it's basically you kept Joe Evans and I 731 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: kept Josh Ross. Correct now and then and then you 732 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: put a decent Isaac on IRY and I put Nick 733 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: sameac on it. 734 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: We basically are saying the same thing with those two guys, 735 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: like we think the same result could take place, potentially 736 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: not knowing the full severity of their injuries, right, but 737 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: but we just have a different means of getting there exactly. 738 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: Both are both are going to be on this team. 739 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: It's just which one is carried on the fifty three 740 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: man roster. Well, both both I think will be on 741 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: IR come week one is my expectation. It's just which 742 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: one makes the initial fifty three and then goes on 743 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: IR a day later. That's what I expect now, Samak, 744 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know the severity, We don't know. 745 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 2: There's a chance that neither of them men up on IR. 746 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: To be honest like that, that could you know, if 747 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: they feel like if they feel like those injuries are 748 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: not long term, and why put them on I R 749 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: So I think that, yep. 750 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: Possibly the other thing they could use IR on t J. 751 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: Tampa or on Rashein a Lee or somebody like we 752 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: were talking about. Also, those I think are the more 753 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: likely candidates. 754 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: Yep. And so, so just a couple of notes, me, 755 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: I've got two undrafted rookie free agents. We just did 756 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: our undrafted rookie free agent pod last week in. 757 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Which we said we didn't think any were making it. 758 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: Well, I said, I we both gave bo Bray the 759 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: best shot, and then we both put them on. Yeah 760 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: I did not. I don't even know that we mentioned 761 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: Joe Evans in that conversation and then and then I 762 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 2: saw the basketball clip and then I saw his game. 763 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: So now put on. 764 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: You're a company man, you just really wanted to tease Wired. 765 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's all about Wired. No, but I think 766 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: that he, like in all honestly on Joe Evans, like 767 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: you listen to Kyle Van and I talk about him, 768 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: like pretty pretty effusive in his praise and a lot 769 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: of respect there. So I think he's got a chance. 770 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: So I've got two undrafted rookies on and then you know, 771 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: we'll see here. The other thing I will say is 772 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: I do think that there is a high probability that 773 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 2: there are airs one or two players who ends up 774 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 2: on the fifty three who is not on the ninety 775 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: roster right now, who we didn't even mention on this 776 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 2: this pod. I don't know what position they are. They 777 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: could be it could be a trade option, it could 778 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 2: be a cut down from another team. Like I think 779 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 2: that there's a chance that when the Ravens end up 780 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: playing the Chiefs, that there's somebody on this team that's 781 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 2: not there right now, and I don't know what position 782 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 2: that is. Offensive line stands out as these cuts get made, 783 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: Like maybe there's somebody that sticks out to the coaches 784 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 2: and airs Acosta and say, let's get this guy in here. 785 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: But you know who that is, I don't know. And 786 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: then even running back there could be you know maybe, 787 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: but but I really think offensive line would be the spot. 788 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. I think that they're 789 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: a monitor to see if somebody shakes loose. I don't 790 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: really see a wide receiver. Addition, you know another player 791 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: that's been good in practice, Anthony Miller. We didn't really 792 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: see him in the preseason finale, but that's another veteran 793 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: practice squad guy. I think that could certainly make his 794 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: way onto a game the game day roster at some point. 795 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think offensive lineman they'll be in that market. 796 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: And then you know, depending on adisa Isaac's injury. You know, 797 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: is outside linebacker another spot you're you're carrying Joe Evans. 798 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: Do they monitor to the market and see does an 799 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: outside linebacker that is intriguing shake loose? 800 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? The one last point for me, it's not about 801 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: the fifty three, but about the game. I was encouraged 802 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: and I have been over the of course the last 803 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. By what I've seen from David Jabba, 804 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: David Jaba put a nice move and got a quarterback 805 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: pressure early in this game. I think that he is 806 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: looking healthier and healthier, and it's a big year for him. 807 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: The Ravens need production out of him, and I think 808 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: that he is showing that he has the potential to 809 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 2: make an impact on the stead and. 810 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: For that, for that reason, I think that they're not 811 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: as likely to be as active in that outside linebacker 812 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: free agent market as maybe we would have thought they 813 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: could have been a month ago. 814 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there you go. That's our those are our 815 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: that's our fifty three to two differences for us, and. 816 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: Uh oh man, I can't wait. 817 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: We'll see, We'll see how it goes. It will let 818 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: us know your fifty three man roster prediction. Email us 819 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: at the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Also 820 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: player you picked the team contest presented by MedStar Health. 821 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 2: You can win some great prizes there. Get those submissions 822 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 2: in now, and thank you so much for listening. We 823 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: will be back with you this week as Ravens finalized 824 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 2: at fifty three man squad