WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: A Wide-Open Postseason 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:16.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's talking Cowboys 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.520 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:33.080 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brautis, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:38.280 and Bill Jones. And that, my friends, is why you 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:43.200 play to win the game. What you saw on Sunday 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.240 in East Rutherford, New Jersey. And now welcome to Victory Monday, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.360 which is also Black Monday around the National Football League. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.360 And it's already Tuesday as far as the next game 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.320 for the Cowboys is concerned, which is a playoff game 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.640 on Saturday night at seven fifteen at AT and T 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:03.800 Stadium against the Seattle Seahawks. Bill Jones, Brian brought us, 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:08.640 Rob Phillips, I guess Mickey's going to be here shortly. Yeah, 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.520 it should be. He didn't get fired. And the first 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.920 reaction we got out of Brian brought us was about 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.399 the Black Monday. Yeah, Black Monday, trash can trash bag 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.520 day two around the League's right by the way, let 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.040 me see bank help can out here, and trying to 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:26.320 fix my camera here, Uh yeah, Green Bay Cleveland Jets Tampa, Arizona, Denver, Miami, 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.880 Cincinnati eight openings. I was I went lunch. I went 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.320 to lunch with somebody the other day and we were 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.840 trying to count up all the head coaches that possibly 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.200 could lose their job. And I think we got to 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:40.440 ten is what we said. Okay, so who are we missing? 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.000 We got well, Carolina would be yeah, but it sounds 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.920 like Carolina and Jacksonville were the two that I thought morone. Yeah, 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.480 so that's what I'm saying. I think Carolina and Jacksonville 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.840 are safe. But but yeah, Black Monday never a good 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.080 day in the National Football League when you have to 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.920 deal with with firings of coaches, because that means as 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.320 a scouting staff, and this is the selfish side of me, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.880 that means you have to completely start all over with 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.880 your evaluation. Somebody is going to come in and say 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.639 we cannot play a four three defense. I'm a three 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.880 or four guy. And now everything you did for the 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:19.040 previous five months, you're having to flip your mind of 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.840 going out and looking for different players. So that part 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.920 of it is a very very selfish reason why I 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.120 don't like changing coaches. But also though it's one of 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.400 the reasons why Jerry Jones probably wants to keep his 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.680 coach and has wanted to keep his coach for the 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:37.000 last eight years. So eight changes so far around the league. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:40.600 Eighty is that unusual? Is that high? You know in 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.360 recent years? I think it's it's kind of that's a 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.440 third of the league, isn't it? Fourth believe, Sorry, I'm 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.720 terrible with math. It seems like a lot. And I 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.280 wonder if it has to do with the fact that 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.800 you look around the league and there's not a lot 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.560 of difference between these teams, and there's opportunity, like the 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.040 Cowboys saw opportunity even though they were three and four 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.440 at the bye week, I believe, And if you don't 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.600 get it done, then bringing somebody else who can and 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.000 and a lot of times they're bringing in coaches who 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:11.640 have no head coaching experience. There's your problem, and not 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.440 with your experience, not with a lack of experience. The 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.680 hiring practices of these of these organizations is poor. In 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.560 my opinion. It is if you keep changing coaches, you're 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.639 a poor hiring organization and something needs to be done 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.000 about that. Arizona is making a change after one year 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.560 with Steve Wilkes. Yeah, Vance Joseph after two years in Denver? Right, 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.960 how long is covered out of long? Yeah? Did I see? 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.160 Denver had never lost had back to back losing seasons 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.080 like forty years or so. That's like that's history right there, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.720 which you know, although two years you think, is that 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.680 enough time to really lay down what you want to do? 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.720 But anyway to Bolls is out with the Jets as well. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.280 So there's five in the AFC, there's three in the NFC. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.120 And of course we already had existing vacancies in Cleveland 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.560 and Green Beady Day and be interesting to see if 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.400 if Greg Williams as a shot at the Cleveland job, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.600 probably would have helped if they would have beaten Baltimore yesterday. 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.720 Mickey Spagnola, how are you doing on this fine Tuesday? 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.760 You guys seem to be Tuesday right. They seem to 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.559 be burying the lead. What's the league? Oh, you weren't 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.960 here for the league? The Cowboys won seven or of 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.880 the last eight. And all the people that wanted this 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.560 coach fired wasn't fired. And what's the record of this 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.200 coach the last three years? Now? Do I have to 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:33.520 add it up? Thirty thirty two and sixteen sixteen. I 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.760 had the thirty two because that's Dak Prescott's record. Also, 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.880 they wanted him camped. Also two guys that have records 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.000 attached to their names. Yeah, if he had a Marcus 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:47.479 Florence is thirty two and sixteen also yeah, but if 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.000 he had a season where they wouldn't have been in 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:50.640 the playoffs, I think you would have been fired, but 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.600 you would have been feeling sorry for him like all 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.560 these other guys. Right now, I'd ever feel sorry for 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.000 these coaches. They're well paid. Well, you just said, do 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.120 you feel sorry for all the staff? And you know 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.600 I feel sorry. I feel sorry to change everything. No, 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.359 I feel sorry for the scouts. That's what I said. Oh, okay, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.320 I don't feel sorry. These's head coaches are well paid, 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.479 so don't feel sorry for them, feel sorry for feel 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.520 sorry for the other coaches though that don't have jobs. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.240 That's feel sorry for a lot of chains, not just 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:19.760 one guy. And we'll get into the possible ramifications on 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.000 the Cowboys staff with all the vacancies around the league. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.200 But making you make a great point, let's not bury 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.680 what happened in New York yesterday because what I said, 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.039 right off the top. That is why you play to 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:36.400 win the game. I agree about sitting Zeke. I agree 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:42.440 on Tyrn and Zack Martin injured guys, but Tyn Crawford, 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.920 Tyron Crawford as well. I love the fact that they 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.320 played Dak Prescott the whole game yesterday. I didn't particularly 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:54.120 I'd love not with we're gonna help him being in 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.560 that situation, whether it helps him from a Cowboys perspective, 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.920 they hope it helps him this week ago in Seattle, Sure, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.200 I think he needed. It worked out well, and it 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.320 did work. Part of the reason, part of the reason 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:10.040 that I liked it is because it was a non 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.640 pressurized situation. You know, every week in this league it's 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.960 a pressure situation to win the game, and that was 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.000 a situation yesterday where he could just go out there 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.080 and play. And I think that's what he needs more 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.520 than anything, is to go out there and play and 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.599 be able to know in a close game like that, 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.279 to be able to make plays and so forth, and 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.039 hopefully it will help him in a pressurized situation, which 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.839 doesn't get any more pressurized than this week against Seattle. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.760 Sure it worked out well because it worked. I mean, 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.840 as Jerry Jones said, we kind of hedged our bets 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.320 a little bit with two or three key guys, and 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.520 obviously Dack's one of them. And you know, he got 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.520 sacked four times, and he took some hits where you're like, oh, ten. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.640 I don't know how many times we said in the 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.840 press box, all right, that's it, you gotta take him out, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:58.880 and they kept bringing him out there, and he said 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.159 before the game he wasn't sure exactly how much he 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.440 was gonna play. He had prepared to play the entire 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.719 game during the week. To my deal on it is, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.760 I don't recall in the sixties, the seventies, the eighties 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.400 where we made this big deal about guys playing in 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.200 meaningless games at the end of the season. Your starters 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.440 play well, I think they're difference. I don't understand what 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.160 the difference Isn't it well, I mean you look at 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.120 it and you say, he's He's players were better than 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.960 you think about it. The league was. I mean, I 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.720 mean the league. You talk about league, but it's yeah, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.600 it's harder to replace players now, yeah, it's harder. Point 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.920 it's so hard to replace players nowadays. I mean if, okay, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.640 if if Roger Staubach gets knocked out of the game. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.920 You had a capable you had a capable backup that 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.800 could step up and play. You know, it was a 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.080 miracle play that Clint Longley came into a game and 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.160 threw a touchdown against the Redskins in seventy four. It 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:57.840 was a miracle play. You had. You had better backup players. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.840 Look at like look at the great teams through history, 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.880 the Steelers, the forty nine Ers, you know, the Cowboys. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.880 They had depth that a lot of positions. This team 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.840 survived yesterday because of death a little bit on the 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.360 offensive line. They lose Sue Philo and they get Adam 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.239 Redman in there, who doesn't play bad. Maybe he should 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.840 have played left tackle and see, look, and that's why 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:22.920 that guy was gonna get him killed. And that's why 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.840 it's surprising that he finished the game, not wrong. Two 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.360 Pro Bowl offensive linemen don't play. Look, they've been banged 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.440 up all year. Zeke's been banged up at times throughout 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.160 the year. I get it. You look at it and 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.319 you say, okay, can they really what can they get 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.600 done when they're kind of engine of their offense isn't 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.160 in there? But I also see what they're trying to do. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.520 I mean they Scotland hand said, they put more passing 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.520 emphasis on this game and let kind of Dak cut 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.160 it loose forty four pass attempts and he responded really 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.520 well and they were able to do enough around him 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.400 to help him out. And I think more than anything 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:59.119 with Dak is they needed him. With Tavon coming back, okay, 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.440 and even Amari Cooper has been here for half a season. Yeah, 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.600 they felt like they needed and with what had happened 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.400 the last couple of weeks where the thing wasn't in sync, 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.080 they needed reps red zone And I said it last week, 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.600 you get shut out against Indianapolis, but you look at 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.440 the Tampa game. I think they had six drives of 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.040 five or fewer plays. It just couldn't sustain anything. And 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.640 how much does that do for Blake Jarwin after that 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.560 performance yesterday going into the postseason, now his confidence level 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.640 is higher than it's ever been. Yeah, where's the tight 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.880 end up? The scene been in the red zone? Though? Right? 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.600 Where's that been? It? Is it just the fact that 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.480 the Giants played with two wide safeties? Is that the 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.760 only reason? I mean that that's kind of what we've 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:42.559 been asking for right. Yes, so you use the word 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.080 that I think is most important. Say, everybody's concentrating on 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:50.319 this momentum. Is it momentum? No, it's confidence. Now the 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.840 tight end has confidence, right that the quarterback has confidence 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.560 more than what he had going probably into the game. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.120 After they strug and I know the defense didn't play 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.720 the way you want your defense to play, but on 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.160 the final two drives with the game on the line, 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.160 they stopped him for a field goal and got him 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.400 on a four and out. Uh, and actually made some 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.360 plays in the yard the end. Yeah, they didn't yard. 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.840 The play calling for the Giants on that. That was 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.400 the first thing when I got on the elevator going 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.880 down and all these are the Giant people are getting on. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.240 It's like it's the worst play caller I've ever seen. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.600 I was like, what are they talking about? Should have 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.680 been running the ball that time to run the ball, 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.000 didn't get the yard. It was amazing. It was good 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.440 to see back there. They got a Pro Bowl kicker. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:40.920 All they had to do is gate about ten yards. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.520 I was saying, one first down in three yards and 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.200 the game's over. Yeah, it's crazy play calling, but played 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.079 by Brown though at the end of guy who's been 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.520 banged up too, by the way. Yeah, bess he thought 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.240 it was a meaningful game. Huh, laid out and dived 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.360 and knocked that ball out. They had a lot of 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.839 guys I mean read playing. They had a lot of 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.800 guys in that game at the end that were just 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.120 you know, they were fighting for their lives. That's kind 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.240 of what that's that's how they took the approach to 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.280 the game. I give I give the head coach credit. 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.640 He did exactly what I wouldn't have done. And he 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.959 said out he was very consistent throughout that he was 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.440 going to play this game to win it. And he 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.440 won the game. Congratulations, he got what he wanted. He 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.800 got exactly. I mean, he got a close game, he 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.800 got a victory, he got guys fighting throughout, and it 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.640 looks like he got out of the game without any 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.880 serious injuries. And we've seen cases in the past where 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.560 a team decides to play it that way down the 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:36.560 stretch and it it turns into postseason success. We'll see 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.800 if it happens with this team. Yeah. Another team that 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.880 got in yesterday two's Philadelphia. Same thing. I mean, they 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.199 were they were kind of they're fighting the same way 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.800 you talked about two teams that were just you know, 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.280 we sailed this division was not very good. Well, you 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.560 got two teams out of the six D. Yeah, and 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.600 I don't think anybody really wants to play Philadelphia right now. Yeah, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:12:01.600 what happened to the NFC least? Huh? Yeah, that has shifted. Yeah, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.920 that's why you play sixteen games. And in contrast to 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:09.400 the Cowboys yesterday, the Seahawks are sitting there. It was 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.760 described as a lethargic victory for Seattle. They have trouble 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.320 with their own division. That's kind of the Seahawk way. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.840 You know, they win games, but they they that division 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.959 they play in, those teams rise up and have an 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.920 idea of how to play them a little bit. So, yeah, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.800 this will be This is two very evenly matched teams 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.600 looking forward, looking forward to seeing how you know, it's 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.280 two teams that are completely different, I think too, than 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.360 what they played in the first time around. So that's say, oh, 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.839 well they played early in the year. I wouldn't look 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.120 at that. Try and take about week eight and then 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.160 figure out go from week eight coming this way. And 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:46.839 that's kind of where you need to think about your 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.440 team because Amar adds a new dimension and that all 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.240 of a sudden, they don't have they don't have an 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.559 old Thomas. You know, there's there's a it's a different team. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.400 I mean, they've played well though. Their quarterback is incredible, 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.480 it really is. They run the football too, they're physical, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.319 they've run better. Yeah, that's what beat him the first 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:06.520 time though. Yeah, Carson was a Carson's Carson running yard 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.319 game yesterday. Yeah. Yeah, that's what they're gonna do. Get ready, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.400 load up, yep. And so it's it's from a player 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.760 and coaching perspective here, it's already Tuesday, Yes, playoff week. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.280 So what's their schedule like, Uh, they're going to come 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:27.040 in today and guys that need to get treatment get treatment. Uh, 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.840 if it's your day to lift, you come in and lift, 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:36.040 and then tomorrow's Wednesday, Wednesday, and you got to get 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:40.439 at it. So which was I mean, he he wouldn't 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.880 admit it, but he knew that they didn't need to 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.559 play any longer last night and that if in case 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.360 it's a short week, we got to get out of here, 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.280 win or lose. Oh yeah, knew they were going for two. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:53.920 Well when he went forward for fourth and two on 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.400 his own end of the field. You knew he was 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.760 playing to win. Yeah, that was not that was not 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.400 that's not a that's not something to his usually in 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.960 his DNA. But you know what he was. He figured 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.640 it out. Don't tempt fate, don't you know, play an 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.640 extra ten minutes. No, we were all holding their breath 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.640 when Vanderesh was sitting on the field. How about you 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.960 guys a little bit? Yeah, I heard he said he 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.520 was fine at it. He got light and whipped by Jalen. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.400 Heard he said he could have come back into the 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.040 game on DV. I know he came back in on 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:24.640 special teams. I think after that field goal field goal block. Yes, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.720 I don't think it's our field goal extraction. Yeah, he 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.040 was the wing. Yeah, that was a scary moment, no 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.240 doubt about it. He was down for a little bit. Yeah. 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.920 I think we were all kind of like holding their breath, like, okay, well, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:39.840 do you realize when uh Sue Filo went down, they 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.240 were down to their last guy. Yeah, right, And I 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.560 was joking. I can't remember who I told. I said, yeah, 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.680 you know, Rego would have been the next one up 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.560 and they go. They were showing a shot on the sideline. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.120 Karen read like Travis Frederick coaching up Karen, this was 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.960 offensive line. Let me ask you this was that after 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:02.480 or before the injury? Too? Was that after before the 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:06.280 injury to Vanderesh? It was the second play or third 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.560 play of the third quarter? Okay, because I was thinking 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.280 maybe he was coaching him up on how to be 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.000 the wing, you know, because that's a good as I 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.280 wouldn't be. Yeah, that's a position that lay Vanderesh usually 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.880 plays the wing position, and that and and actually he 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.400 took Vanderesh took over for uh that that's usually Frederick's spot. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.520 So maybe I thought he was kind of coaching him 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.640 up on how to be a wing there, but maybe 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.200 not he was talking to him about something. Well, as 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.240 it turned out, I Sue of Filo had his ankle 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.200 taped and basically was ready to go in if it 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.640 was an emergency situation, how do you know they wouldn't 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.960 have had to put Rico at tackle. So how do 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.520 you feel about the way the defense played in all 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.560 told yesterday? Too many big plays? Those are the biggest 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.720 plays they've given up all the year. Somebody do some 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:57.440 quick mass uh one oh nine minus sixty eight quick 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.840 what's that one forty one? That's all that That's all 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.000 that runner got yesterday? Take away the one big run, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.680 that's all I got. Yeah, that's forty one yards. Yeah 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.560 it was a big run, and it was you know, 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.400 but it was if you told me that he was 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:16.480 gonna have sixteen other carriage for forty one yards. Yeah, Pat, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.120 Pat the defense on the back fence. Guess what. Guess 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.760 what's stuck in Marinelli's mind? The sixty eight. Yes, I 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.000 just saw him this morning because last night for Saturday night, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.960 when I ran into him that we were watching the 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.040 college game, and I said, when I found out that 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:35.400 Zeke wasn't gonna play and Girly was out, I said, well, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:36.960 all you gotta do is hold him to less than 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.160 two thirty six and against the title. And he looked 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.600 at me and he goes, oh that guy it he 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.080 was just kind of shaken. Yeah. So when I saw 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.160 this morning, guy said, well you did your job, and 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.960 he started grumbling, and all I could think of is, oh, 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.840 you got something to chew on this this this week? 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.040 Now with this defense, follow big place. We can't have 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.600 big place. I'll tell you what. He was already fired up. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.160 The options they made. I don't know if you can 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.120 cover guys any better. What the one hand is. One 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.159 hand catches and and and I'll tell you what the 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.400 Evan Ingram touchdown on film. I don't know what Sean 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.639 Lee could have done any different. Right he tries to. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.600 I mean, he swipes at the ball going across. Just 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.320 a great throw, great catch. If the only the only 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.240 thing that could have happened, maybe was Cabon Frasier could 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:24.560 have channel channeled his inner Xavier Woods and just laid 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.320 into Ingram, into his ribs, then maybe the ball would 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.440 have been complete. I guarantee you, though, with the love 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.560 for Layton that people were yelling at their TV, you 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.960 gotta get Slee's gotta get retire or whatever, you know, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.280 because that's just the way it is in this league. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.280 Anybody yelling that guy he's gotta play the quarterback. Can't 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.960 win a game without Zeke out there. You want a 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.320 game out, A lot of people out there can't can't 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.080 win a game if you get into a shootout, can't 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.840 throw the ball the fourth and fifteen play. I'll tell 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:02.000 you what though, I mean it was vintage Village Prescott though. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.639 I mean, he everything you want to do wrong on 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:08.480 that play. As far as mechanics, it's beautiful ball though, 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.840 and he just he has an ability to open up, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.960 open himself up and just buggy with it with his arm. 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.520 And I mean he threw it. People talk about, hey, 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.119 he doesn't throw to spots, he doesn't anticipate throws. He 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.040 anticipated that throw because he threw it to a spot 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:28.359 and luckily Beasley, Beasley saw where he needed to be. 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.160 And I mean when you watch it from the end zone, 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.600 it is as pretty a throw as you'll ever see 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.440 because he threw it right to a spot. And see, 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.919 that's the stuff that I like seeing yesterday where I 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.480 like seeing Dak playing in a game like that. Yeah, 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.679 it's sort of street ball in some ways, Like on 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.800 the touchdown to jar Or it was the touchdown to 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.560 jar one. It was just a completion to jar one 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.760 where he's motioning him to make an adjustment. You know, 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.440 it was the touch motion him to take off down. Yea, yeah, 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.280 pointed to him. Yeah, I mean I like to see 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.800 him in those freelance situations. The only way he's going 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.240 to get better in that is if he in that situation, 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.919 he said, He said afterwards, when he saw Beasley in 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.680 the end zone. He said, I saw the dB had 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.240 his back to me, So the dB didn't know I 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.679 was going to throw the ball. He was trying to 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.120 track Beasley, he said, So when I saw his back, 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.880 he said, I'm just gonna cut it loose. And that's 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.159 you see the positive side of his mobility right on 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.000 that play and on the two point because he does 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.320 take sacks, and he because he tries to extend plays. 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.640 But that's also some of the brilliance that he has 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.399 because not every I mean they're about to play a 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:36.919 guy who can do that, but not a lot of 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.320 guys can do that, extend plays and buy your receivers 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.159 an extra second or two seconds or three seconds. And 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.760 I you know about the game winning drives people ought 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.760 to know by now, he does that. He's got fourteen 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.280 in his career. That's the most ever by a quarterback 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.119 in his first three seasons and the most in the 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.520 league since twenty sixteen when he came in. Did so 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:03.440 did Drew Brees play yesterday? They got beat? Yeah, they 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.720 got beat. So he's got one more. The only one 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.000 that has more wins in the last three years is 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:13.480 Tom Brady. Hmm. Interesting alrighty too. Issue. I wish he 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.800 would have hit those those two sluggos though, to Amari Cooper, 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.520 sure sure, absolutely, yeah. I mean that those both of 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.679 them were pressure plays. I mean he got stepped on 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.160 on the second one. Adam Redman got knocked back into 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.760 him and he kind of his foot his foot got 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.879 jammed up a little bit. He couldn't really step to 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.399 where he needed to throw that ball. But everybody, you 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.280 kind of wonder, Okay, what's wrong with the Mariray Cooper? 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.480