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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brautis, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. And that, my friends, is why you

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Speaker 1: play to win the game. What you saw on Sunday

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Speaker 1: in East Rutherford, New Jersey. And now welcome to Victory Monday,

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Speaker 1: which is also Black Monday around the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: And it's already Tuesday as far as the next game

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys is concerned, which is a playoff game

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night at seven fifteen at AT and T

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Speaker 1: Stadium against the Seattle Seahawks. Bill Jones, Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, I guess Mickey's going to be here shortly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it should be. He didn't get fired. And the first

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Speaker 1: reaction we got out of Brian brought us was about

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Speaker 1: the Black Monday. Yeah, Black Monday, trash can trash bag

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Speaker 1: day two around the League's right by the way, let

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Speaker 1: me see bank help can out here, and trying to

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Speaker 1: fix my camera here, Uh yeah, Green Bay Cleveland Jets Tampa, Arizona, Denver, Miami,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati eight openings. I was I went lunch. I went

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Speaker 1: to lunch with somebody the other day and we were

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Speaker 1: trying to count up all the head coaches that possibly

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Speaker 1: could lose their job. And I think we got to

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Speaker 1: ten is what we said. Okay, so who are we missing?

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Speaker 1: We got well, Carolina would be yeah, but it sounds

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Speaker 1: like Carolina and Jacksonville were the two that I thought morone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's what I'm saying. I think Carolina and Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: are safe. But but yeah, Black Monday never a good

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Speaker 1: day in the National Football League when you have to

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Speaker 1: deal with with firings of coaches, because that means as

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Speaker 1: a scouting staff, and this is the selfish side of me,

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Speaker 1: that means you have to completely start all over with

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Speaker 1: your evaluation. Somebody is going to come in and say

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Speaker 1: we cannot play a four three defense. I'm a three

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Speaker 1: or four guy. And now everything you did for the

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Speaker 1: previous five months, you're having to flip your mind of

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Speaker 1: going out and looking for different players. So that part

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Speaker 1: of it is a very very selfish reason why I

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Speaker 1: don't like changing coaches. But also though it's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why Jerry Jones probably wants to keep his

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Speaker 1: last eight years. So eight changes so far around the league.

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Speaker 1: Eighty is that unusual? Is that high? You know in

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Speaker 1: recent years? I think it's it's kind of that's a

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Speaker 1: third of the league, isn't it? Fourth believe, Sorry, I'm

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Speaker 1: terrible with math. It seems like a lot. And I

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Speaker 1: wonder if it has to do with the fact that

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Speaker 1: you look around the league and there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of difference between these teams, and there's opportunity, like the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys saw opportunity even though they were three and four

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Speaker 1: at the bye week, I believe, And if you don't

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Speaker 1: get it done, then bringing somebody else who can and

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Speaker 1: and a lot of times they're bringing in coaches who

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Speaker 1: have no head coaching experience. There's your problem, and not

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Speaker 1: with your experience, not with a lack of experience. The

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Speaker 1: hiring practices of these of these organizations is poor. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion. It is if you keep changing coaches, you're

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Speaker 1: a poor hiring organization and something needs to be done

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Speaker 1: about that. Arizona is making a change after one year

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Speaker 1: with Steve Wilkes. Yeah, Vance Joseph after two years in Denver? Right,

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Speaker 1: how long is covered out of long? Yeah? Did I see?

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Speaker 1: Denver had never lost had back to back losing seasons

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Speaker 1: like forty years or so. That's like that's history right there,

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Speaker 1: which you know, although two years you think, is that

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Speaker 1: enough time to really lay down what you want to do?

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Speaker 1: But anyway to Bolls is out with the Jets as well.

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Speaker 1: So there's five in the AFC, there's three in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: And of course we already had existing vacancies in Cleveland

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Speaker 1: probably would have helped if they would have beaten Baltimore yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, how are you doing on this fine Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: You guys seem to be Tuesday right. They seem to

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Speaker 1: be burying the lead. What's the league? Oh, you weren't

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Speaker 1: the last eight. And all the people that wanted this

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Speaker 1: add it up? Thirty thirty two and sixteen sixteen. I

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Speaker 1: I feel sorry. I feel sorry to change everything. No,

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Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the scouts. That's what I said. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel sorry. These's head coaches are well paid,

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Speaker 1: sorry for the other coaches though that don't have jobs.

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Speaker 1: That's feel sorry for a lot of chains, not just

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Speaker 1: one guy. And we'll get into the possible ramifications on

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys staff with all the vacancies around the league.

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Speaker 1: But making you make a great point, let's not bury

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Speaker 1: what happened in New York yesterday because what I said,

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Speaker 1: right off the top. That is why you play to

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Speaker 1: win the game. I agree about sitting Zeke. I agree

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Speaker 1: played Dak Prescott the whole game yesterday. I didn't particularly

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Speaker 1: I'd love not with we're gonna help him being in

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Speaker 1: that situation, whether it helps him from a Cowboys perspective,

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Speaker 1: they hope it helps him this week ago in Seattle, Sure,

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Speaker 1: I think he needed. It worked out well, and it

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Speaker 1: Sure it worked out well because it worked. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Look at like look at the great teams through history,

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Speaker 1: it's surprising that he finished the game, not wrong. Two

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them made it down here for the

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Speaker 1: It's a short trip to New York. Yeah. See that

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit, but then you turn it into

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Speaker 1: the swath of humanity, not at all a couple million people,

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Speaker 1: not at all a million. I'm sure there are people

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Speaker 1: gonna yeah. I did like the Dick Clark thing when

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Speaker 1: good doing that. They were showing on the news, the

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. They practice. They practiced the ball coming down,

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Speaker 1: and they also practiced getting the coffetti thrown off wherever

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Speaker 1: to make sure it fluttered right and they had enough

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Speaker 1: get the wind current. You know, it's important. So how

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Speaker 1: do y'all celebrate New Years? I don't now like tonight? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I go to the Stars game. That is really I've

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Speaker 1: done that a couple of times. Canadians tonight, No, that

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Speaker 1: is a great tradition though I missed out. You know

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Speaker 1: when they were at Reunion Arena and they started doing this,

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Speaker 1: and so you'd get there early, you know, you tailgate,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. And then when you went into there,

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Speaker 1: they they all the ushers were dressed in tuxes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like it was a big deal in the tucks one

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Speaker 1: bloody favors and hats. It's it's a cool tradition. It

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Speaker 1: has been great tradition. Yeah, I totally thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: Totally forgot about that. Canadians are in town. Canadians, Oh Canada.

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Speaker 1: They'll sing beforehand. That's good. Oh I love that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh do they still do the New Year's Eve a

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Speaker 1: victory plaza down there? They used to, so I think

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Speaker 1: it moved to the highest. I saw him putting fences

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Speaker 1: up around where you used to have a show outside

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Speaker 1: right about which one year it was super cold, I think,

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Speaker 1: but it gets going. It used to get going right

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Speaker 1: as the game and it was perfect. Yeah. Well, yeah

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Speaker 1: going on, because I saw him putting up fences this morning. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And then Texas Live over in Arlington has yes, very cool.

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Speaker 1: They're encouraging people to go there tonight. Good Rob, how

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Speaker 1: do you spend your New Year's Well, you're being the

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Speaker 1: younger of the foursome here. Well, we don't have kids

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Speaker 1: right up after the show? Yeah, actually no, like once

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Speaker 1: you're most of your friends aren't having kids. You know,

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Speaker 1: something to do. But I am staying in tonight and

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Speaker 1: watching Texas Eggy football. I was able to the tax

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Speaker 1: Slayer Bowl. Yes, I was able to persuade the misses

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Speaker 1: into that boring night. But hey, that's good. But you

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Speaker 1: have to give it this guys, Is this a change

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Speaker 1: for the wedding you did and over thanksgiving? Your damn right?

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Speaker 1: You are damn right, which is funny because you always

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Speaker 1: there's no yeah, there's no free passes in this game.

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Speaker 1: That came up. That came up Saturday night in the

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Speaker 1: He's sitting here talking to this big guy. And as

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Speaker 1: just happened to be in the bar and It's like,

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Speaker 1: why is this guy in the in the why is

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Speaker 1: he here? Did he come to see you? Goes? Oh, no,

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Speaker 1: he goes. He was out of wedding down the block

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Speaker 1: and they didn't have a TV and he wanted to

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Speaker 1: come and watch the football. So he left the wedding

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Speaker 1: dragged his wife all dressed up in a gown and everything,

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Speaker 1: and they're sitting in the bar watching the game that

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Speaker 1: reassigned Mike Tannenbaum there as well. He's the under the

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Speaker 1: president of the club, and have announced general manager Chris Greer.

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Speaker 1: It will oversee football operations out time. And we mentioned

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Speaker 1: off the top that Mike Mayok is the new general

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Speaker 1: manager of the Oak. There's hope for all of us

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Speaker 1: media guys again, right, that's right. They're gonna hire some

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Speaker 1: announcers to come down and be part of the team too.

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Speaker 1: Chris Greer is good, by the way, Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just take everybody out of the booth and put them

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Speaker 1: in the raiders. Well they already got well, actually, Musburger

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Speaker 1: does their radio. Now, Yeah, John John's going to be

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Speaker 1: the general manager here. Let's not fool ourselves. John John's

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Speaker 1: calling the shots. Mayok side players. That's way it's gonna

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Speaker 1: go to change the radio play by play guy? Now

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Speaker 1: or did they just already did they just did that

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Speaker 1: Greg Papa got boot out of the right, long time,

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Speaker 1: long time Bay Area guy. Yeah, Area, that's right. National

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Speaker 1: reports that the Cardinals are changing coaches. So that's one

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Speaker 1: year with Wilkes. Yeah, he's out. Man, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, that's a third of the league. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot, man. All right, So now, how does that

626
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Speaker 1: perhaps it's a quarter of the league, right, how does

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Speaker 1: that perhaps affect things here in Dallas? Well? Eight openings

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Speaker 1: around the league? Yeah, Chris Roshard is at least getting

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Speaker 1: see Chris Rashard though, if you know, if you look

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to be a head coach somewhere as a

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Speaker 1: former NFL scout, I'd love to work with him. I

638
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Speaker 1: really I would love to work with him because I

639
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Speaker 1: think he would a I think he's got a command

640
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Speaker 1: of the room. I think he's got a command a scheme.

641
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Speaker 1: I think he's really actually really good people person too,

642
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Speaker 1: And I think that he I think he would have

643
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Speaker 1: he'd put together a good staff. There's a lot of

644
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Speaker 1: positive things. He's been in a really good organization Seattle.

645
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Speaker 1: He came here, he's learned a lot of things here.

646
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: It'll help him for wherever, you know, wherever he goes.

647
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Speaker 1: But if he gets a head coaching job, it is

648
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Speaker 1: well deserved and there ought to be guys lining up

649
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Speaker 1: to go to work with him because he's got it.

650
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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that gets it. You know,

651
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Speaker 1: this is where I think owners make a mistake, if

652
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Speaker 1: indeed they're the ones that make the hire. They look

653
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Speaker 1: at the xs and os, and they look at who's

654
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Speaker 1: a coordinator, and they forget about You've got to have

655
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Speaker 1: a magnetic personality to be a head coach. Yep, you've

656
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Speaker 1: got to be able to command a room and everybody

657
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Speaker 1: listens to you. When you walk in, something goes off right.

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Speaker 1: You just can't be I mean some of these guys

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Speaker 1: they hired, they're just boring. Well, because when you're the

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Speaker 1: head coach, I mean, we've found you got to delegate.

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Speaker 1: You know, head coaches that also call plays. It's a

662
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Speaker 1: difficult balance. So a lot of it is the walk

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Speaker 1: around factor and trying to motivate guys and send your

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Speaker 1: message across. You know, that's what Jason Garrett has delegated

665
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Speaker 1: over the years. He started out trying to do both

666
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Speaker 1: and and it's about who you hire. But that's that's

667
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Speaker 1: good point, Mick. It's a tough job because the patience

668
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Speaker 1: in the league is not what it once was. This

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Speaker 1: organization is a great example of showing patients with the

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Speaker 1: guy that for twenty nine years. I know that's kind

671
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Speaker 1: of a back in the day thing, but they've now

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Speaker 1: you know, he's shown patients with this this uh, this

673
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Speaker 1: current coach. You know, this coach is going to go

674
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Speaker 1: into his ninth season next year. You know, there's a

675
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Speaker 1: lot that's that's that says something in this day and

676
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Speaker 1: age to to last more than four years at a spot,

677
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Speaker 1: I think says a lot about the patience of a

678
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Speaker 1: front office because if you look at all these coaches,

679
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Speaker 1: the Bengals are losing the guy today that that was

680
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: sixteen seasons. Okay, that's a family run team. You know,

681
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Speaker 1: that's a lot of patients. And Marvin Lewis wasn't a

682
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Speaker 1: bad coach for them. I mean, you look at what

683
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, they've been pretty bad. But

684
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Speaker 1: if you look at some of the other firings, it's

685
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Speaker 1: been guys like we talked about one year, two years,

686
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Speaker 1: three years, four years, that kind of thing. The patients

687
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Speaker 1: to hire a coach and keep a coach is not

688
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Speaker 1: what it once was. There are organizations that are known

689
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Speaker 1: for that, the Steelers, the Packers. Yeah, and Jerry has

690
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Speaker 1: committed to this, and he hired Jason as a young

691
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Speaker 1: coach and knew that he would grow, expecting him to

692
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Speaker 1: grow over. He knew there was gonna be some problems

693
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Speaker 1: along the way. He's absolutely right. I'll guarantee you there's

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Speaker 1: not eight new head coaches out there just waiting to

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Speaker 1: get hired to be successful. That's a lot, right, Eight

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Speaker 1: you set a quarter every year. Yeah. Yeah, there's eight

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Speaker 1: head coaches sitting out there right now that okay, this guy,

698
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Speaker 1: this was the guy, these people And here's the other

699
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Speaker 1: problem is you fire people without knowing who you're gonna hire. Yeah,

700
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't know who you're gonna hire before you fire.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's that. I mean, let's just get it done. Now.

702
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Speaker 1: We're gonna head start on finding a bunch in Tampa.

703
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 1: Now has taken a lot of grief because they're using this,

704
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Speaker 1: these committees, these guys to help search committees. You know,

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Speaker 1: any general manager that's worth his salt should have a

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Speaker 1: list of guys that he wants to talk to. If

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Speaker 1: you're in a position to hire people and you don't

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Speaker 1: have an idea and you need help to hire, you

709
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Speaker 1: don't need to be running an organization. If you don't

710
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Speaker 1: know how to interview somebody and hire somebody, you should

711
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Speaker 1: not be the guy in charge. You should be looking

712
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Speaker 1: for a job because that to me, if you're telling me,

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Speaker 1: I never could understand these athletic directors that, oh we

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Speaker 1: have a search committee. Why why? Why? What is your job?

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Speaker 1: What are you paid to do? You're paid to go

716
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Speaker 1: and hire a coach. You know, Gay, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: an example. The guy at Temple. Temple has made now

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Speaker 1: almost nine million dollars off buyouts. Think about that. Evidently

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Speaker 1: the guy at Temple knows how to hire a football

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Speaker 1: coach or hire you know, hirespire people. Because yeah, his

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Speaker 1: school has made nine million dollars all buyouts. Nobody really

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Speaker 1: wants to stay at Temple. Nobody does, but they all leave.

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Speaker 1: But what happens that ad has got a hiring practice

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Speaker 1: where he's able to make the school money. It's a

725
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Speaker 1: successful stepping stone job. Yeah, basically, yeah, yeah, you hired

726
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Speaker 1: the right guy and he's probably gonna leave you. But

727
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: but it's yeah, TCU. They hired Gary Patterson, you know,

728
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Speaker 1: and I'm not a huge Gary Patterson fan, but they

729
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Speaker 1: hired a guy. They gave him a chance, and now

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Speaker 1: he's lasted and he's just not gone anywhere. But that's

731
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Speaker 1: a that was a good hire for them. You know,

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Speaker 1: their ad has been able to keep him new ad there.

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Speaker 1: The guy's gone to Texas, the old ad, but they've

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Speaker 1: been able to keep him there. That's just you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what that's that's doing your job, that's having

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Speaker 1: a plan, having an understanding. Mickey's right. Texas Tech just

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Speaker 1: hired replaced Cliff Kingsbury. It took Kirby Hokut about two days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he knew exact was doing. Yeah, he said, okay,

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Speaker 1: if this guy's out, I've got He reaches into his

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Speaker 1: desk and he pulls out his list and says, got

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Speaker 1: four names on here. I'm gonna try and get one

742
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Speaker 1: of these four guys, I bet you anything. He first

743
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Speaker 1: went to Brent Venables, a defensive coordinator at Clemson. He

744
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Speaker 1: said he wanted to stay at Clemson, and his next

745
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Speaker 1: guy on the list was Matt Wells, the coach at

746
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Speaker 1: Utah State, and he hired him and it took two days.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how much money Venables made until I

748
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Speaker 1: watched the semi final. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't leave either.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you that these guys at Alabama and Clemson,

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Speaker 1: they're worth every penny they're paid. Nick Saban, think about

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Speaker 1: the man. He's now a nine million dollar coach. He

752
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Speaker 1: brings one hundred million dollars into the program. I would

753
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Speaker 1: say it's a pretty good deal. Nine million or one

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Speaker 1: hundred million. Okay, let me think I'm dumb at math

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Speaker 1: I would school Louisiana played some games without a helmet,

756
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Speaker 1: but I think that's pretty good math. You know, forty

757
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Speaker 1: years ago I learned about committees. Missouri was looking for

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Speaker 1: the chancellor female, nothing against females at mickey, where are

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Speaker 1: Just quickly off, I was founding. Yeah, you don't have

846
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: to once you first, you got six? You got six. Yeah,

847
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: that's the same as six seven seven. I think that's

848
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm at ten here, ohoa ten. Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson

849
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: for four years, Dave one Stead for four plus, Jim

850
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: Bates finished that season. I forgot one, two three, Dan

851
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: kick Saban, who ever heard of him? He was fourth? Okay,

852
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: Cam Cameron, Oh kind of forgot Cam Cameron Tony Sperrano

853
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: had a good run for three and a half years

854
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: at six. Todd Bowles finished up that year. That's seven,

855
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: Regis Philbin eight what Joe Philban okay, and then Dan

856
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: Campbell was also head coach there for a time. That's nine.

857
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: And then Adam Gaye makes ten. So this will be

858
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: the eleventh head coach since nineteen ninety five. Dan was

859
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: interim because they several couple they've had three interim coaches. Yeah,

860
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: that's year seven would have been right. That's a lot, Yeah,

861
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: that is a lot. Gays is highly regarded as a

862
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: as a kind of a quarterback whisp. How many And

863
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: that's the thing, Gays, if he doesn't land another head

864
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: coaching job somewhere, then he's going to be an offensive

865
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: cord highly sought after offensive coordinator at a place like

866
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: say New York with the Jets and owners? How about

867
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: how many owners? Three? Robbie uh the guy who was

868
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: Juzinga Zinga and now Ross and didn't at one point

869
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: they had all these other people that well, I think

870
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: that's part owners. Yeah, I think Gloria Esteban, Jimmy Buffett,

871
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: I think we're involved. Arena Williams. I think there's Yeah,

872
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett's a part owner of the Dolphins. It used

873
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: to be land Sharks Stand Shark Stadium. Yeah, after his beer. Yeah, okay,

874
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: that beer is trash. Oh okay, hey, that that it

875
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: was trash. I like Jimmy buffett Is beer was trash.

876
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: The partial roof that they put on there's pretty neat. Yeah.

877
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: It makes it just hotter than hell in there, does it?

878
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god? You see the game yet night? Yes? Yeah, yeah.

879
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: All those coaches that normally like coaches love it when

880
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: they can wear long sleeves during a game because you know,

881
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: they just eat massive amounts of food and just put

882
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: on weight, and so these coaches are all they were

883
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: all struggling because they had to wear golf shirts. They're like,

884
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: oh no, we don't get the cover on. The players

885
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: had towels. Oh god. Yeah, it was tough. It's helped

886
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: the fans, but it's made it a sauna in there.

887
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: Well that's why they did it, because they wanted another

888
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl after it rained that Yeah, yeah, okay, they

889
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: put a partial roof over it. So the Cowboys play

890
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and you've got two head coaches who have

891
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: been in place since two thousand and ten, two ten,

892
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: and six teams this year. Pete Carroll the first year

893
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: was two thousand and ten and Garrett took over halfway

894
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: through that two thousand and ten season. Yeah, I haven't

895
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: gone through it to see how many of these playoff

896
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: teams have coaches that have been there and extended period

897
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: of time. You can start in New England with one,

898
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: New England's New England's been one. Well, just go just

899
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: go by, go by the round. Andy Reid has been

900
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: in the league or has been in with Kansas City

901
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: for a while. Belichick has been in New England for

902
00:46:54,160 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: a while. Carbos been in at Baltimore. Baltimore Chargers coaches

903
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: and I think his third years, second or third year,

904
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: probably second year. O'Brian's been in Houston for a few years. Yeah,

905
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: O'Brien's been for a few years. First year at Indian

906
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Appo exactly. Yeah, Peyton twelve, Peyton's been there a lot.

907
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you can go over the NFC, that's

908
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: three years now for mcpha McVeigh. Yeah, he's um and

909
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: then Garrett here the first year coach at Chicago, first

910
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: year at Chicago and Philadelphia. It's with Peterson third year. Yeah,

911
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: so there's a mix. I mean it's all right, there's

912
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: not a trend necessarily, right. They're a little bit of

913
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: breaking news for you guys, right, Kay, Garrison Brown's interviewing

914
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus for the head coach, Matt Eberflus. It's a

915
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: coordinator Indianapolis of course formerly here. That's a good, good interview, done,

916
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: a nice job, and I like you talked about how

917
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: Philly's playing well coming in. Indie's a team nobody wants

918
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: to play in the AFC right now. I mean that

919
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: not Japan Andrew Luckett to Helm, not just the Cowboy game. Yeah,

920
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: steerest mother, Yes, on the battlefield. Yes, who's the hottest

921
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: team in the league right now? Indy probably gotta be Indie. Yeah,

922
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 1: and Cowboys are right behind. They're up there in terms

923
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: of wins in a number of weeks. Philadelphia getting into

924
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: this thing was amazing. And they were running the ball

925
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: yesterday Indianapolis. Yeah yeah, And they were showing their offensive line.

926
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were doing the same thing to Tennessee

927
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: that they did to the Cowboys. Oh they'll mess you

928
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: up now. That offensive line at Indy Okay, so NFC playoffs.

929
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Who who is a dark horse that you think could

930
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: make a run here in the NFC? I think it's

931
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: wide open your team. The team here can make if

932
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback keeps playing like he did, you know yesterday,

933
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: if he keeps making throws on the move and doesn't

934
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: turn over the ball, and you know, I mean I

935
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: was more impressed by him. He had nobody on the

936
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: field and he went out and won that game yesterday.

937
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean, no fence the guys that played, but I

938
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: don't have Zeke Who's the end? Yes, yeah, yes, he

939
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: didn't have really a running game to lean on. You know,

940
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: his best receiver wasn't His best receiver had eleven targets,

941
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: point had five catches for thirty one yards. You know,

942
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: his best receivers were was a tight end that you

943
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: know that is kind of feeling his way. Cole Beasley,

944
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: welcome back, you know last couple of weeks. Really yeah,

945
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup rookie three catches for fifty I mean, he

946
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: wasn't like he had a whole lot of going on there.

947
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: They averaged two point three yards or carry. And I

948
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: mentioned the game winning drives stat because I think there's

949
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 1: just a feeling for me when I watched Dak play,

950
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: and I think the belief within the locker room that

951
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: they're never out of it with this guy, you know

952
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: what I mean? They how many times have they started

953
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: slow this season and in the fourth quarter they start,

954
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: they start rolling. I mean, I'm not going to count

955
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: them out any game they play in, whether it's this

956
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: one coming up or if they're able to move on.

957
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: Because he has a way of and he played well throughout,

958
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: taste that playoff two in his mouth. I think he's

959
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: got to taste the playoffs into his mouth. Though. He

960
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: went toe to toe with that guy with the Packers

961
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: right after falling behind. Yeah, that was one of the

962
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: better games he's played bringing that team back. This is

963
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: not a guy without playoff experience going in. He understands.

964
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good thing about this. He gets it.

965
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: You know, he knows what he's probably gonna have to

966
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: do to win this game. A lot of it's probably

967
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna fall in his shoulders. Again. Much better prepared, yes

968
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: this postseason than obviously his first one is a rookie.

969
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: If that's good of a season that he as he had,

970
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: and he spoke about it, and maybe he was speaking

971
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: about himself personally. Just it took us a long time

972
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: to get going in that Packer game, and he wanted

973
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: to play in this game yesterday. And I think a

974
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: lot of it was just let's carry momentum is part

975
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: of it, Mick, Let's carry it over. I want to

976
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 1: keep playing week to week and not rest a week

977
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: and then you know, but they got Russ. Thing is

978
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: is real, at least in his mind and the way

979
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: he indicated it. Just think about had they played Let's

980
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: say Dak played a quarter, Okay, what you might do

981
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: if Romo were here as a ten year veteran in

982
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: the with his team. Okay, if he plays a quarter

983
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: and Cooper Rush plays the last three quarters of that game,

984
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: what are they gaining from that? At his health? His health,

985
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: That's right, that's the one thing they're gaining, the one

986
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 1: they guarantee. The one thing that can derailed your run

987
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: was him getting hurt, right, right, That's the only thing, right,

988
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: the only downside. Right. But I also confidence in Cooper Rush.

989
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Do I No, there's nothing against nothing against Cooper Rush,

990
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: but put the pullback in the game to run one

991
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: on the goal. I mean with Nate goes, Wait a minute,

992
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: what's all the way doing in the game. I've never

993
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: seen him in Zeke's in there again, you know? No, Well, yeah,

994
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: they were using him on third down because they needed

995
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: somebody to block that they trusted. They didn't. But yeah,

996
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: the only downside was him getting hurt. That was the

997
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: only downside of But anyway, it's a good point, you know,

998
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: I throw at risk, so I just throw it out

999
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: here that who might be a dark horse. And Brian

1000
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: brought us brings up the Cowboys and why not the Cowboys?

1001
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: You know well? And Rob said it though too. This

1002
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: thing is wide open. You know if if you if Hey,

1003
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys went. They've beaten the Saints. They haven't played

1004
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: the Rams. Play the Rams last year. You know that

1005
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: was a toe to toe game. Mickey will tell you

1006
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: they were punt returned away from blowing them, milling them out,

1007
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: and they've had I'll take my police too. I will

1008
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: take my chances playing anybody in the playoffs on the

1009
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: NFC side. Did Falls get hurt? He did rips, Yeah,

1010
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: but it sounded the reports are encouraging for him for playoffs.

1011
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: Just a million dollar bonus yesterday? Did he like four plays.

1012
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: I think, Wow, yeah, I don't give it to him.

1013
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: Huh No, they won't. Some are some organizations would, they would.

1014
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see. I'm going all over the place.

1015
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm driving Mickey gonna read here. I'm just kind of

1016
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: going all over the players. I think you're right. I

1017
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: think it's it's wide open the FC. I think it's

1018
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: wide open the AFC. I don't. I don't have you know,

1019
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: we don't watch all the game at least I don't

1020
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: all the games around the league. But I don't have

1021
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: a good field for that conference either. All these teams

1022
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: are kind of in the same pot, mixed together, the

1023
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: teams that were red hot the first three fourths of

1024
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,479
Speaker 1: the season, meaning like the Rams and the Chiefs have

1025
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: come down to earth a little bit here in the

1026
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: last quarter of the season. Rams dependency is going to

1027
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: be on that running back and how healthy is he

1028
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: really now? And they lost Cooper Cup and that Cooper

1029
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: Cup injury is huge. They haven't replaced that, Nope, that

1030
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: has been huge. And then they're gonna get the Runners,

1031
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna get another week off. But I'll tell you what though,

1032
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: that that his health is paramount for them to have

1033
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: some success Cowboys. When you think about where the Cowboys

1034
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: are healthwise, Okay, they are in pretty good shape going

1035
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. I mean they're getting guys back. Yeah,

1036
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: but we really don't know how banged up Suahilo is.

1037
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: That's a starter at left guard for you in this game.

1038
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 1: And Jason did say I think post game they felt

1039
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: like he maybe could have come back in the game.

1040
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: Make you he was taped up, But I just encouraging. Yeah,

1041
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, practice all week, I mean, swell

1042
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: up on him today. Yeah, exactly. It's a good point.

1043
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: Short week. Well, Vanders Williams get out there. Yeah yeah,

1044
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you do have a guy that started however,

1045
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: many games in games for you. Yeah, you know, I

1046
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: just I could say, I don't I don't fear anybody

1047
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: in this I don't fear anybody in the NFC. I

1048
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: really don't. I mean, you could say the Saints playing

1049
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: at the Dome, there is a huge advantage the fact

1050
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: you catch Seattle on the road here, you know what

1051
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: I mean, they have to come here, I think is

1052
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: I think it makes the game very equal. There are

1053
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: no gimmis, but there are no games that you look

1054
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: at and say we can't win, I'll take my chances

1055
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: playing the Rams again. I'll say that, I'll take my chances.

1056
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, the Saints. The Saints in their mind have

1057
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: got to know, wait a minute now, this team that

1058
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: kind of slowed us down a little bit, Drew Brees

1059
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: has got to think, well, we'll pass rush again. You know.

1060
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: It's interesting. Randy White is on our Cowboys pregame show

1061
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 1: on Sunday. We were talking about it after the show

1062
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: yesterday morning, all right, and Randy just brought it up. Okay,

1063
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: this picked the quarterbacks. Okay, yeah, the way the way

1064
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: he looks at it is picked the better quarterback is

1065
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: gonna win the game. Yeah, pretty good matchup here, Dak

1066
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson. Yeah, but Drew Brees is the one quarterback.

1067
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: I mean in the in the past, you would have

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00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers with the Packers. Sure, okay, you don't want

1069
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: to face him, right, Okay, well you don't want to

1070
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: face Drew Brees. No, you know, golf, That's what I'm saying.

1071
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: I'll take a chance Trubisky with Chica, you know, Falls

1072
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: with the Eagles. Who, Yeah, who's gonna play Falls? Or

1073
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: is or is Carson wentz gonna play right on the

1074
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: AFC side. You got my homes and you got Brady

1075
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: and they got first round Buys Rivers, an old salty veteran,

1076
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: you got Luck. Yeah, but they screwed him. They got

1077
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: to play across the country to play a game against Baltimore. Yeah,

1078
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: you know that they did them no favors early games. Yeah, yeah,

1079
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: they have no respect for the Chargers. Pretty good quarterbacks

1080
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: over on that AFC set, Sure there are sure, and

1081
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: there'll be a good one in the court in the

1082
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: super Bowl when you get over there. You know, that's

1083
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: what it's all about. How would you like to bend

1084
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: in the room last night trying to figure out which

1085
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: network was going to get which game and who was

1086
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: going to play win? You know? The tricky thing on

1087
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: that this time is that NBC has the Golden Globes

1088
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, and so obviously NBC. NBC normally has

1089
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: a Sunday night game, honestly, And I don't know how

1090
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: the workings are on their contract, as they spent so

1091
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: much money on that Sunday night football pack. Yeah, but

1092
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: they still they wound up getting the Sunday late game,

1093
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: which is highly unusual. For that Sunday light. Yeah, and

1094
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: and so I don't know how it worked out because

1095
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: Fox then got the Saturday Night game, which put the

1096
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys on Saturday Night. See that's what I was talking

1097
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: to some guys that they're in No but Fox out

1098
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: in California, and they were saying they left the studio

1099
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: yesterday not knowing what game they were going to get,

1100
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: and they go, that is highly he goes that. My

1101
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: guy goes, that has never happened to us, never happened.

1102
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: We usually know by the time we do, by time

1103
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: we wrap up, what direction we're going to go in.

1104
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: So they didn't know. So if if they insisted on

1105
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: taking the Cowboys, you think the trade off was, Okay,

1106
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: you can have the Cowboys, but you're getting Saturday Night,

1107
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: not Saturday at an NBC wants a lead into the

1108
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: NBC wants into the Golden Globes, and so that probably

1109
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: is a big factor. Yeah, because we're all thinking, if

1110
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: if NBC gets the Cowboys, it's the Saturday night game, right,

1111
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: see exactly what I thought. See the thing too with Fox,

1112
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: they spent a lot of money on the Thursday night

1113
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: package and they took that, you know, they took that

1114
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: on and and they were The league was like, listen,

1115
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: please do something for us, and they did and they did,

1116
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: and they and Fox went into that thinking, Okay, you're

1117
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: gonna give us first choice of this game. Well that's

1118
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: and that's the thing it's like, And not just because

1119
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: I work here, but if you do have DIBs on

1120
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: picking a playoff game here, aren't you gonna pick the

1121
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys from a radio fam Definitely, especially if you'll we

1122
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: have one game. NBC was only gets did they get

1123
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: one game or two games? One game one ESPN as

1124
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: the early game Saturday, which is and then when they

1125
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: go to divisional though, they get another game? Or does

1126
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: that turn into Fox and CBS because the ESPN only

1127
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: gets one game? And I thought that I thought they

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00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: got they get the wild card and see right, I

1129
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: think you're right, but I'm yeah, I'm not sure, but

1130
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: I just knew that my guys had Fox. When they

1131
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: left Los Angeles studio last night, they said that had

1132
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: never happened to them. They always knew that what games

1133
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: they were gonna happen. And there was a lot of

1134
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: people when we were leaving the stadium going, oh, NBC

1135
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: is gonna get this game. Yeah, you know the other

1136
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: factor that you know, philadel if you getting in, may

1137
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: have factored into it because it's a large market, and

1138
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: so I Philadelphia playing Chicago probably tip the scales one

1139
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: way or the other. And why they didn't they were

1140
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: waiting to see if Philadelphia was going to get in,

1141
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: probably and being the defending champs that made that a

1142
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: much more attractive game. Nothing against Minnesota, but you know, yeah,

1143
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: it's not the same size market that Philadelphia is, right,

1144
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: all right? That does it for a Black Monday or

1145
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: White Monday or Victory Monday edition of Talking Cowboys And

1146
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: what's happening on New Year's Day? Anybody know? LSU got

1147
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: a game? Go tires. I haven't heard Missouri plays two

1148
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: forty five today. Oh, we will for sure be here

1149
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: when morrows Wednesday it is, so we're here. We're here, okay,

1150
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta roll. Okay, we'll see we think

1151
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 1: check your check your local listings on Dallas Cowboys dot

1152
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:05,080
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