1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Do not expect to be sitting here with y'all. But 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: it's crazy. I've been having so many thoughts since I 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: got the email to come speak to you all, because 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, looking at y'all guest list, and it's like, 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: I saw you had Michael Vick, you had, you know, 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: a lot of notable guys who had these long careers 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: on the field correct and I was like, man, that 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: was not me. And it's like I'm being you know, 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: asked to talk about something I did after football, and 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: that was huge for me because whenever you go off 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: into a new direction, you don't know if you're doing 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: the right thing or not. But like you know that 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: I'm sitting down here with y'all. That let me know 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: that I made the right decision. 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. I'm Peanut Toman and this is the 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: NFL Player's Second Act podcast and with me as always 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: as my trusty co host, mister Roman Harborough. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: Shout out to the brothers out there. I'm not one 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: appreciate it, man. I'm really looking forward to listening to 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: our next guest story. It's very unique. He's actually the 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: first of one of what we have to go. But 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: I'm not going to give it all the way Peanut 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: get us started. I really want to dive in because 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 3: this guy has a very very unique journey. 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: First Team All Juco, four year NFL Vick Vic Baller, Baby, 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: welcome to the past. 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: So all the big. 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on, man, appreciate So Vic, you are 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 2: the first Juco player we've ever had on the show. 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't, no way, no way. 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: You are the first. We've had Hall of Famers, We've 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: had a Burgundy Jacket guys, which is which are one 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: of the top one hundred, top one hundred players of 34 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: all time in the NFL. We've had people that are 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: considered the greatest and whatever, but we've never had a Juco, 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: even a Juco All American at that you never. You 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: are the first. 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: That's why I say, bro, you got you got a 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: very unique story. You got a story. 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Look, asked me about it. I'll talk all day. 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: Okay, so let's talk about it. Because I didn't go 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: Juco route. I've only heard the horse. 43 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: It's like a dig So you just gave you your flowers. 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: It was like, look, I didn't go down, I didn't 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: water them. 46 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: Yet I'm awarded the flowers I'm awarded of flowers. Okay, 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: you you went to Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College, right now, 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: explain to our viewers that do not know where that is. 49 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: It's done in Perkinston, Mississippi. It's a small little town 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: back in the day, probably had one red light. The 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: McDonald's that we had was attached to a gas station, so, uh, 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: it wasn't much there, but it was home for about 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: a year and a half. 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: And so what do you do for food? What do 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: you do for entertainment? 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Like? 57 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: What is that? 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Like? 59 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: What is that that? That campus atmosphere like if you 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: can call it an atmosphere, you. 61 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Know, it was actually fun, you know, we made our 62 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: own fun. For food, you know, we go to the 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: caf I go home because I was relatively close to home. 64 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: But cas cafeteria. 65 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes. For entertainment, we had this one little 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: spot called Bobos Bobos. It was actually it looked like 67 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: it was an old house that somebody gut it out 68 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: and turned to a club man. But it was in 69 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: there every weekend. 70 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: But you are that's when you got to meet everybody though, 71 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: So it makes that that party makes it easier. We 72 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: ain't got no options this is the option. 73 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: That's the only spot with either that. I go to Hattiesburg. 74 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: You know what Southern miss is. 75 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: But how far was that? 76 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: Maybe about thirty forty five minutes down the road. But 77 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: bobot Burg, Yeah, Bobo's was just like ten minutes down 78 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: down the road. 79 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: So that's a spot. Okay, I want to know about 80 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: because you guys, and I hate to bring this up. 81 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I blame Thomas for this one. The loss. 82 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: You guys lost the Junior college championship game, and only 83 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: because the score was seventy five to seventy one. Where's 84 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: the defensive dude? This is Mississippi football. Dog. Sometimes you 85 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: should see the stats out of high school. In my 86 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: line about that, you know, you'll see that somebody rush 87 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: for four thousand yards in high school. This is Mississippi. 88 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: This is what happens. 89 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: I was gonna make a joke, but it was probably inappropriate. 90 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: So I'm like, you ran for one hundred and eighty 91 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: six yards four touchdowns, so you did your job right, 92 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: but you guys ended up losing the game. Yeah, seventy 93 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: five to seventy one. 94 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all did some research, man. 95 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: And for some reason, you guys decided to throw. The 96 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: quarterback lost that. You guys lost it because the quarterback 97 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: threw an interception. 98 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I can't even put 99 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: it on him. We scored seventy one points. If you 100 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: scored seventy one points in lou it's like, what else 101 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: can you do? 102 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Play defense? 103 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: I mean that's what you can do. 104 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: What are y'all saying on the sidelines, did you guys 105 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: keep running it up and then your your defense keeps 106 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: giving it up? 107 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: It was a shootout, That's that's everybody knew it was 108 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: a shootout. It's like who has the ball last? Yeah, 109 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean we had it last, but we still lost. 110 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: But like you said, we threw an interception. But we 111 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be a shootout. We saw that 112 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: very early. But we just couldn't stop them. I had 113 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: four touchdowns, no hundred and so yards. We had another 114 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: receiver had like three touchdowns and you know about two 115 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: hundred yards receiven So everybody had good stats that game. 116 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: If you was on offense, if you touched the ball, 117 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: you probably scored a touchdown. Yeah. 118 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: So Rom and I we had similar past. We went 119 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: to our respect to colleges you know, we went to 120 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: the combine, did the whole thing, got drafted, went to 121 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: our team. What was your What was a process like 122 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: for you getting into the NFL? 123 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: I got drafted as well, got drafted fifth round. I 124 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: was telling the story earlier about draft day. I knew 125 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: that there was a possibility I can go second day. 126 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: Didn't go second day, Yeah, I was okay, Well, I 127 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: think fourth round is a is a good spot for me. 128 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: I feel like my talent is a fourth round talent. 129 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: Didn't go fourth round either, and Saint Louis called me 130 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: somewhere in the fifth round. Yeah, and they told me 131 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: that if I didn't get drafted, you know, they wanted 132 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: me as a free agent. So, you know, getting that 133 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: call during the draft that was discouraging. So I was 134 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, you know, you know, maybe I'm not 135 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: gonna get drafted, but let me, let me, let me 136 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: not ruin this day. Let me, you know, have my 137 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: phone with my family. And as soon as I got 138 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: up to go fix myself or play the food to eat, 139 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: and I was called me. And I think it was 140 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: like pick one fifty six or something like that, but uh, yeah, 141 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: they called me. I became a coach that day. 142 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: So who called you or not? 143 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: I know that we know the coat called you, but 144 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: like what what person was on your end of the phone. 145 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Honestly, I think it was coach pegana Chuck Pagano. Yeah, 146 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: but I'm not too sure because back then I was 147 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: just happy to be talking to somebody. It didn't matter 148 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: who it was. 149 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: So you get to you, you go to Indy, you 150 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: get there, and you work your way into the starting lineup. 151 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: How was that process? 152 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: It was crazy? But well it was crazy but not 153 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: crazy at the same time, because like you said, I 154 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: came from Juco. Even when I got to Missippi State, 155 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, it was a grind. You know, it wasn't 156 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: like a shoe in. I wasn't you know, the guy 157 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: from day one. So when I got to Indianapolis, I knew. 158 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Well you became the guy. Let's let's let's put some 159 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: numbers with it. Now. You still have the school record, 160 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: season season school recor record for rushing touchdowns at nineteen 161 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: So I mean you weren't that unknown. Okay, go ahead, 162 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: and I finish your story. I just want to put 163 00:06:59,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: some respect. 164 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but what I'm saying is I've never I 165 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: was never the day one started. No matter where I 166 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: went to, I always had to earn my spot, earn 167 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: my keep. So when I got to Indianapolis, it was 168 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: no different. I was deep on a depth chart too, 169 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: and eventually I found myself, you know, getting into rotation. 170 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: And I think it was like week five, Bruce arians 171 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: came up to me and said, hey, you know, I 172 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: want to give you a little bit more playing time, 173 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: but you got to learn the playbook because number rookie, 174 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn how to read defenses and things 175 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: like that. Y'all guys back then in the second day 176 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: moving around, and so pretty much after that, you know, 177 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: they started putting me in and I worked my way 178 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: to the starting spot. 179 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: You first get there, you get the inde. We all 180 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: have that welcome to the NFL moment where you just like, 181 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: holy I'm in the NFL. You hit somebody, you get 182 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: scored on, something happens in the locker room, whatever. We 183 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: all have that moment where you're just like, damn. 184 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: I'm in the NFL. Welcome to the NFL. 185 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: Rookie. 186 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: What was that welcome to the NFL rocky moment? 187 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: For you got a good one. It's a twenty twelve. 188 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: Week one, We're playing Chicago and uh, you know you 189 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: in the second day, I'm looking at Julius Pepper's coming 190 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: off the edge, Brian Urlaca back there standing up looking 191 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: like a tree, and they say, you know, they called 192 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: the play and the ball is coming to me. I'm like, 193 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: what this this is my first play in They give 194 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: me the ball and Brian url like it wasn't one 195 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: that hit me out of It was like a no gainage. 196 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: But it was just so surreal to me just to 197 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: be seeing all these people that I grew up seeing, 198 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, playing on video games, and now I'm lining 199 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: up against them. So that was it was super surreal 200 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: for me. 201 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: So did you no hit, no nothing, just it was 202 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: just kind of. 203 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: Nothing, just doing it was just a moment and I 204 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: had played through the preseason we played uh try po. Yeah, 205 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't that. It wasn't that impactful though, No disrespect 206 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: to him, no great, no, yeah, but I think it 207 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: was that that week one, Uh, this is it's real now, 208 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: you know it's not. It's not practice anymore. And now 209 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: you got all these guys lined up on the other 210 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: side of the ball trying to take your head off 211 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: like the guys and it just clicked for me and 212 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: that moment like man, I'm here. 213 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: But uh so after that the no gain or whatever, 214 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: did you kind of snap out of it? Is like okay, yeah, 215 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: at the end of the day. 216 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: It's just football. 217 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, pretty much pretty much, I would say. 218 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: So, okay, that's fine that that happened opposite to me. 219 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: Then when I went out there my first start, and 220 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: I feel like Peyton Man was just staring at me, 221 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: it was very you feel very small at that moment. 222 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I feel you. Yeah, I feel small. 223 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: Do you remember your first NFL touchdown? 224 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: I definitely do. 225 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: Let's tell me about it, walk us through it, give 226 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: us the play call if you can remember it, give 227 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: me the action what you see. 228 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: Yes, right, So I'm gonna start with the weekly number 229 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: to the game. Bruce Arians, who was the office coordinated 230 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: at the time, he had told us about a play 231 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: he saw Virginia Tech. Bro I think it was Virginia 232 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Tech and h basically he was like, I want to 233 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: try that practice, you know, drew it up in the 234 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: same Basically, we tried that practice, it worked, never went 235 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: back to it, and uh so we're playing Tennessee. Uh, 236 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm having a decent game. You know, we're moving the 237 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: ball pretty well as an offense. Uh, and we find 238 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: ourselves in overtime. We had another another running back by 239 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: the name of Donald Brown. He actually got us down 240 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: to the red zone, you know, running the ball and uh, 241 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure if they called a time 242 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: out or we called a time out, but my running 243 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: back coach, Coach Walker, he thought that, you know, we 244 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: should switch out. So we made the switch. You know, 245 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: we're on the field now. Bruce calls to play the 246 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: Luck and Luck is reading the play to us. I'm 247 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: looking at Reggie Wayne reggielight, is he sure he wanted 248 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: to run this play right now? Is overtime and win 249 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: the red zone? Uh? You know, so we called it, 250 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: and uh, I forgot the specifics of the play, but 251 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: I knew he had the option front side. He didn't 252 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: take the option front side. And I saw him, you know, 253 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: turning back to look at me. I was, oh, now 254 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: it's on me. Now. He threw me the ball and 255 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: there was a guy who if he was maybe a 256 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: step fast, they could have took it. It was at 257 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: the end. Oh yeah, yeah, he could have took it 258 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: the other way for six for sure didn't touch the ball, 259 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: so I caught it. I'm running and I got to 260 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: about the ten yard line and so and I saw 261 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: that I was running out of real estate. I knew 262 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: that it was two guys. I knew one of the 263 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: two was probably gonna try to push me out of bounds. 264 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: So I dove just to try to see what, you know, 265 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: what would happen. And when I dove, the safety ended 266 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: up rotating me. So now I'm like inverted and I'm 267 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: just gliding through the. 268 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: Ass a good dive. 269 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know who I was gonna land, 270 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: And when I didn't land, I just hopped up and 271 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: threw my hands up. Didn't know if I scored or not. 272 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: I was like, let me see if I can convince 273 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: the rest that I scored. But ended up hitting the 274 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: potline and uh scored the first testdown. 275 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: A lot of running backs possibly could drop that pass too, 276 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: just because somebody was flashing in front of you just 277 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: a second. Yeah, I know you said they didn't touch it, 278 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: but it was very close though. I thought it was 279 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: a great catch. It was a great effort. 280 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely very close, but I called it 281 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: turned into a touchdown. 282 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: So you had a lot of success your rookie year, 283 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: decent amount. 284 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: Then you get. 285 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: Into your second year, you tear acl in the game, 286 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: do that rehab, and then the next year you tear 287 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: your achilles in practice. How hard was it to stay 288 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: motivated during that time having two very very serious injuries. 289 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: It was incredibly hard. Anybody that's been on our and know, yeah, 290 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: like the you know, the the uphill batter that you're facing, 291 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: especially when it's a season ended injury. And it got 292 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: to a point, especially that second year, well, I didn't 293 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: even feel like I was part of the team. There 294 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: was guys walking around the locker room don't know who 295 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: I am, you know, because I hadn't played mile Let's 296 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: let's call it my rookie year. Like the vests know 297 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: who I am, but the new guys just like, you know, 298 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: who is this guy that's always hurt? So you know, 299 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm fighting my physical battles but also fighting my mental battles. 300 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: And it was tough, man, I have. I had a 301 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: lot of rough nights and a lot of people saw 302 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: it on my face, and you know, they would give 303 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: me words of encouragement, but the only the only thing 304 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: that could break that spell was me, me getting back 305 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: on the field. 306 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you really weren't able to get back on 307 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: the field. And understanding that now that you're away from it, 308 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: do you ever probably give yourself enough praise for what 309 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: you did accomplish and even on the other side, grace 310 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: for the disappointment and that what it was or was not. 311 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: Some days I give myself praise, some days I give 312 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: myself grace. But the competitor in me, it's like I 313 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: just I wanted to be the next best, you know, 314 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: especially you know, working my way into a spot, a 315 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: starting spot. You know, it's like, man, I'm it's my time, 316 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: you know. So I was thinking like that, it's my time, 317 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: it's my time, it's my time. And for not to 318 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: unfold like that, it was a big shot to my ego. 319 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: So after you know, you're you're out of the league, 320 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: and you're I'm sure trying to figure out what's next. 321 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: How long did it take you to kind of figure 322 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: that part out? 323 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: I kind of already knew because you know, as we 324 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: alluded to, I faced a lot of injuries, uh before 325 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: I actually got cut for the last time. So my 326 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: just the way my brain works, It's like, Okay, if 327 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: this doesn't pan out, what's next. So I thought, you know, 328 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: I brainstormed a lot, but eventually I found myself kind 329 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: of going back to my eighteen year old self. And 330 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: remember that I originally wanted to go to school for 331 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: engineering and I was kind of denied the opportunity when 332 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: I got to Missippi State because you know, classes conflict 333 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: with practice and I was like, nah, bro, you came 334 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: here to play football. So I was thinking, that's true. 335 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: That's basically what they told me. So you know, whenever 336 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: I found myself out of the game, I was like, okay, 337 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: it was it was, you know, obviously a fall time. 338 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna wait until the following spring 339 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: to uh, you know, start applying the schools, and you know, 340 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: that was that was the plan. I stuck with it. 341 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: Tell me this, so you said, you know, it really 342 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: hurts your ego with all the things that were going 343 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: on and how it wasn't on your terms. 344 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 345 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: Has it recovered with my ego? 346 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: Oh? So so this is the beautiful part of it. 347 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: So during that process, I don't think I've ever been 348 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: more motivated, more dedicated, more into you know what I 349 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: was doing in that moment, you know, trying to get 350 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: back to the to the field, and it didn't work out. 351 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: But I told myself, I was like, man, you know 352 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: that didn't work out because I just feel like I 353 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: didn't have enough time. But if I could take that 354 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: same drive, that same dedication, that same discipline, and applied 355 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: to anything else in life, it's no telling why I 356 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: ended up. And I took that with me to school. Yeah, 357 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: then you studied mechanical engineering. Mechanical engineering, that's a whole 358 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: lot of math. It's a whole lot of everything. 359 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: The whole Yeah, I was. I was struggling with the 360 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: TI eighty three Texas instrument calculator. Y'all had the that 361 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: big I don't even it was a Texas injuring, but 362 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: it was. They had a keyboard on it. I don't 363 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: know what the you know what I'm talking about. 364 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: The calculators. 365 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: It's a T I think ninety three, Well at least 366 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: when I was in. 367 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: School, Yeah, that's what it was. 368 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: It was. 369 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: It was a big one like calculator. Yeah, couldn't what 370 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: did you look at? You know about the calculator? Everybody 371 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: know about that. 372 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: He just talking to her. 373 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: I didn't come there to play no school. Yeah, I 374 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: was crazy. It's like what Yeah, So now you got 375 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: your your bachelor's and mechanical engineering at Central Florida all right, 376 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: all right, then you went and got a master's in 377 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: engineering at the University of Florida. Right, So you were 378 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: in Gainesville for this or you did it online? 379 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: No, so I was actually in Atlanta at the time. 380 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: I was having to commute to actually Orlando once a 381 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: month for class. So yeah, it was in person, so nice. Yeah, 382 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: I was commute once a month. Man, it was terrible. 383 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: But like and man, Florida is a top five university 384 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: though the last couple of years as far as education 385 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: and experience all the overall. So that's it's still a 386 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: great place for sure. And are you currently seeking an 387 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: NBA or yeah? 388 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I actually started the NBA too. I'll be 389 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: done probably this time next year. And I have an 390 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: NBA as well. 391 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: Congress, where's that going to be out. 392 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: Of University of Florida as well? 393 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: Congratulations all that. 394 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: So, you know, I've been trying to get him to 395 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 2: do NBA program with me. He just want to do it. 396 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to accuse you of cutting me 397 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: off age deal. Yeah, so and now you're a mechanical 398 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: engineer for the great company of Lockheed and Martin. 399 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, my aeronautical engineer specifically. 400 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 3: Okay, here it is so aeronautical engineering. That's what I 401 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: was going to ask, What exactly is it? What is 402 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: your job title? 403 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: So aeronautical engineering. The job title is broad because we 404 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: have different engineers that do different things. Me specifically and 405 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: what they call a stress analyst. So I support a 406 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: production of an aircraft called the F sixteen. 407 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: Love the F sixteen. 408 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so anyone Okay. 409 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: My dad worked on the Jackson seats as a so 410 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: I grew up around the F sixteen. 411 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: Right, So I'm gonna I do a frame stress for 412 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: the F sixteen. Whenever anybody on the production floor does anything. 413 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: The dvs from the blueprint. So let's say you drill 414 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: a hole in the wrong spot. They sent a to 415 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: us to say, okay, can you analyze this to make 416 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: sure that there's viable you know, the flo so the 417 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: so the poblot can be safe. 418 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 419 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not signing off for anything though. It's layers 420 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: and layers, but I'm sure. But yeah, that's what I do. 421 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: Day in and day out. 422 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: Now, how long you been doing this? Sorry? 423 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I just started doing a frame stress 424 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: because before I was a different type of engineering back 425 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: in Georgia. 426 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: Why mechanical engineering. 427 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: So initially I wanted to do mechanical engine and engineering 428 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: back when I was eighteen, and because a little country 429 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: dude form Mississippi. You know, we work on cars and 430 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: things like that, and I thought that, Yeah, I thought 431 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: that's what being a mechanical engineer was. But it's so 432 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: much more, absolutely, yeah, yeah, so much more. 433 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: I thought working on the car was a mechanical mechanical engineer. 434 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's. 435 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: Mechanical exactly, exactly, honestly, that's. 436 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 3: Kind That is Mississippi, baby, that's Alabama too. 437 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is part of it. But you learn the 438 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: science behind why the car is doing what it's doing. Yes, 439 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: And the motivation came from uh, like I said, me 440 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: trying to I got to figure the rest of my 441 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: life out. I can't play football no more. That's what 442 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: I've been doing my whole life. I need a new deal. 443 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: And I never really saw myself being a coach or 444 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: a personal trainer, you know, No knocked to anybody that's 445 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: doing it with their life. That's a former player. But 446 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: that's not the route I wanted to take. I wanted 447 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: to do something that was challenging. So I went back 448 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: to school for engineering. 449 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: Now, how difficult was it to land a job that? 450 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: Like? He It's crazy, you know, because a lot of 451 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: people talk about how hard it is. I applied one time, 452 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: got it. It just it was pretty easy to me. 453 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: But you know, I think it depends on the person. 454 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Because when I was going to orientation, that was a 455 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: guy who said he applied twenty times before he got 456 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: an interview. I applied once. 457 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and we'll be 458 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: right back. I think all these companies number one, this 459 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 3: is my opinion, but I think all these companies really 460 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: appreciate and love former athletes because the working worthic Like, 461 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: they understand it's tough, they can be you know, they 462 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: can be corrected, and they don't take it personal. I 463 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: just think it's they know how to work well with 464 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: a team, which at Lackey Martin you're part of a 465 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: huge grouping team definitely, and so it's just really really 466 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: cool to actually talk to you about those things. I 467 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: want to know. Also, what was it like going back 468 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: to school again, because you know, you're probably dealing with 469 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: people that are younger than you. You'd already been in 470 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: the NFL. I have a small sense of that because 471 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: I went back to school after two years in the 472 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: league and I finished my degree. But I was like 473 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was back in Tuscaloose on 474 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 3: the campus that I was familiar with. 475 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: Exactly. 476 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: It was different, right, you totally different. You're a totally 477 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: different fish in a totally different pod. 478 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. One day I had this moment where I was like, man, 479 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: what am I doing my life? Because I'm in freshman 480 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: level physics, you know, sitting next to these kids, you know, 481 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen years old trying to figure out how they 482 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: can pull money together to buy pizza, And I'm like, man, 483 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: I just I just came from like to my left 484 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: was Andrew Luck, to my right was Reggie Wayne. Yeah, 485 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: you know the lifestyle that you know a lot of 486 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: NFL players live, Like, I went from that to this, 487 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: and I was having like a moment and I had 488 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: to remind myself, you know, we're all here for the 489 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: same things in life, you know, we just had a 490 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: different path. Yeah, So if this is what I want 491 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: to do in my life. I need to, you know, 492 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: shake that off and you keep it moving. And that's 493 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: what I did. So it was crazy. 494 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: That is the emotion that I felt. It was like 495 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: I was back and I was in my last business class. 496 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: You know, I got a Bens, I got a Louis 497 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: book Bass. Yes, so different, and I'm in class and 498 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: I'm doing a group project with just We're meeting at 499 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: a frat house, you know, like the door barely works 500 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: in the front to get into the other person's apartments. 501 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: We're all your classes online. 502 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: No, mine was in person. A lot of them. 503 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: Online are all person online was in persons all in person. 504 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, mine were in person. So I had to go 505 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: there and be there and so and I was in 506 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: the same mentality as you vic. It's like, man, I'm 507 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: looking around like slightly judging people. But I had to 508 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: humble myself and be like, you know what, like all 509 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 3: these people in this room are literally working to get 510 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: this piece of paper to get their dream job. Roaman, 511 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: you're blessing fortunate enough to where you have your dream job. 512 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: You just trying to get the paper so then you 513 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: can say you accomplished this. Give it to your mom, 514 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: and you can also tell your future kids like what 515 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: you can do. 516 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: The beautiful thing about that is we can totally humble 517 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: ourselves again, and you can give your mom another sheet 518 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: of paper and we can go we. 519 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: Can go get it. 520 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 3: We can go get it. We can go get this NBA. 521 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: My dukes, we can get it. 522 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get you some honey to get this NBA. 523 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 3: We can get it. Talk to him, convince him. Let's 524 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: get home. 525 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: But with that being said, you got four picks on 526 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore. So these are picks of people that have 527 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: had influence, people that have loved on you, people that 528 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: cared about you, people that poured into you to help 529 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 2: you become the young man you are today, from the 530 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: time you were born until fourteen fifty six today made 531 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: of fifteenth, who would those four people be. 532 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: It's a tough question because you know they said it 533 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: takes a. 534 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: Village, absolutely, the village of four. 535 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I would definitely say I would include or 536 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: can I include, like all of my family as like 537 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: yeah one, okay, definitely like my core family, you know, 538 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: because you know they are no part of the reason 539 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: why I am who I am? All right? 540 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: Who are you? Who? Is your core. 541 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: Family, brothers, sisters, you know, mom, pops, grandmother, grandfather. Yeah, 542 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean they know who they are shout out to. 543 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: They know who they are. So aside from that from family, 544 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: I would definitely say my juco head coach because he 545 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: was the first person to show me that, you know, 546 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you got excuses, like life, life 547 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: really doesn't care if you got excuses. It's like did 548 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: you get it done or didn't or you know, did 549 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: you not? So I would definitely put him up there. 550 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: Steve Campbell, Steve Yeah, legendary Mississippi golf coach, football coach, legendary. 551 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: I would put on the rough of no feathers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 552 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: I would say. Okay, I would say my high school hit, 553 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: my high school football coach as well, because when I 554 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: was a junior in high school, the springtime, they come 555 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: out with this thing called twelve most Wanted and I 556 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: was not one of those guys. And he was the 557 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: first person to call me and tell me like, look, 558 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, don't worry about the article that came out 559 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: of paper, because when it's all said and done, you 560 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: can have the last live. And he was he was 561 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: right because none of those guys actually got drafted. I 562 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: was the only one you know, from my area from 563 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: that from that time period to make it to the NFL. 564 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: So he was definitely right, you know, gave me motivation 565 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: to keep going. And that's one other guy. His name 566 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: is Nate David. Shout out to nay Man. We don't 567 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: talk much, but he don't know it. And I've said 568 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: this on other podcasts, but he is a big reason 569 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: why I pushed myself as hard as I did because 570 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: he was always pushing me. You know, if I did, 571 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: if he uh, if he did you know ten or something. 572 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: I try to get eleven, if I do know five sets, 573 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: he trying to get six. So we was always pushing 574 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: each other, you know what I'm saying, to get better. 575 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: And whenever we split, you know, we out different different directions. 576 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: And I kept that mentality with me. 577 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: So he is a high school college team high school high. 578 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: School, high school, yeah, high school, and now he was 579 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: the first person that I met that said now I'm 580 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: gonna do something and actually did it. He was telling 581 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: me from probably middle school age he was going to 582 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: be a doctor, and today he's a doctor. Yeah. I 583 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: like that. 584 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: How gratifying is it to have the success that you 585 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: have right now in your new profession, considering how playing 586 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: an NFL, how that ended for you. 587 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: I definitely give myself a pat on the back sometime 588 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: because just the fashion in which everything ended with the NFL, 589 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, me actually having to go back to school 590 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: and sit in the classroom with you know, people that's 591 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: ten years younger than me, and uh, to actually be 592 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: sitting in a seat where I you know, I like 593 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: what I do for a living. You know, it's it 594 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: was a it was a process, it was a jo 595 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: to get there. So I'm definitely proud of myself. But 596 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, being an athlete, you are ambitious, you are 597 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, gol oriented. You have all these things, all 598 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: these qualities about you that enables you to be a 599 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: professional football player. So it's like it's like I'm looking 600 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: for It's like what's next. It's like it's like I'm 601 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: trying to enjoy the moment, but also you know, figure 602 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: out what's what's next for the future. 603 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: Now, did you take that same mindset to lack heat, Like, 604 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: did you take that same attitude like, all right, you know, 605 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 2: my new goal is, well I can design a new 606 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: frame or I can fix this or I could do that. 607 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: Is that the same kind of attitude that you brought 608 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 2: over I. 609 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: Wouldn't say that. It's it's more so like, Okay, I'm 610 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: an engineer. Now what it's going to be my title? 611 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: Teens from now now? I'm not really stuck on being 612 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: an engineer. If I am, you know, great, and I'll 613 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: find a vertical that I can excel in. But if not, 614 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, what is it? What's what's my new what's 615 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: my new title? 616 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 3: So you are that was because I want to know, like, 617 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: like what, because you know we I talked to somebody 618 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 3: else about this. It's like so often being goal oriented 619 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: people who are like minded, people that are always trying 620 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 3: to achieve the next When you're an athlete or you're 621 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: a football player, it's easy to see like I'm in 622 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 3: high school, I want to get to college. Like at 623 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: the college, I'm trying to get to the league. 624 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm in the league. 625 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get starter or be the highest paid 626 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: or get to a Pro Bowl. So it's easy to 627 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: see what's the next goal when you're doing something that 628 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 3: I'm unfamiliar with. When you are an engineer, a mechanical engineer, 629 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: mechanical engineering lackeys Martin, what is that next goal? And 630 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: I don't even know if you know it as much 631 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: as it's like, well, if I'm going to be in 632 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: this lane, how can I be vertical versus what other 633 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: options are out there? I don't know, That's what I'm 634 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: trying to ask. 635 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: And the well as I was kind of alluding to, 636 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: like are you saying like what is the next step 637 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: for men engineer? No? For you? Oh for me? Yeah? 638 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: OK, the next season? 639 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, as I mentioned, you know, if I continue 640 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: to grow in my career as an engineer, you know, 641 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: I definitely you know, maximize whatever opportunities are put on 642 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: my plate. But if it comes down to me, you know, 643 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: creating my own opportunities. One area I've been looking at 644 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: is real estate development. So I'm currently doing a little 645 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: stuff in real estate right now, selling off some rentals 646 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: I have because I want to move into the development space. 647 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see, you know, hopefully it works out, 648 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, whenever I dipping my toes in the water. 649 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: But I think that's probably what's on the horizon for me. 650 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: Oh man, I think we appreciate you coming on the pot. 651 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: Man. That's dope. 652 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: That's a great answer. Thank you for sharing your story 653 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: and just blessing us with your presence. 654 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate you all having man, I really do, 655 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: because I did not expect to be sitting here with y'all. 656 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: But it's crazy. I've been having so many thoughts since 657 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: I got the email to come speak to you all, because, 658 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, looking at y'all guest list, you know, it's 659 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: like I saw you had Michael Vick, you had you know, 660 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: a lot of notable guys who had these long careers 661 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: on the field correct And I was like, man, that 662 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: was not me. And it's like I'm being you know, 663 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: asked to talk about something I did after football, and 664 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: that was huge for me because whenever you go off 665 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: into a new direction, you don't know if you're doing 666 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: the right thing or not. But like you know that 667 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm sitting down here with all that, let me know 668 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: that I made the right decision. 669 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: We all got a story, man, in the second act 670 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: this podcast, it's us really giving you your flowers and 671 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: the things that you're doing right now in your second act. 672 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: So hey, man, congratulations, and I hope the goal, whether 673 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: it's a year from now, five years from now ten 674 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: years from now, you're doing the things that you want 675 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: to do. 676 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 677 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, And if you were just a good football player, 678 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: you wouldn't be here. 679 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: That's true. 680 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: It's literally because everything else you're doing in your life, 681 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: and so everything that your football journey puts you through 682 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: is that actually need to put you right here in 683 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: front of us today. So this is why we do 684 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: the show. And it's been really cool. And you, like 685 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: I said before, you're first Juco All America. 686 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: That's great. Many I take honor in that because he 687 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: shout out on my Juco boys. Man, because that was 688 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: a different grind, a whole different grid. That's a different ground. 689 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 3: That's probably more of a grind. That's more of a 690 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: grind than at UL right. 691 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, how far is that Pearl River is 692 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: Pearl that's a Juco? 693 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 694 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: How far is that from me? 695 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh thirty minutes? Maybe that was one of our rivals. 696 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: That rivals. Yeah, my roommate he went there. 697 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 698 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, say, Mississippi got a whole bunch of they were. 699 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: Like fifteen maybe yeah, oh damn yeah, it's a lot. 700 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they go at it though. Mississippi, Oklahoma and 701 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: California or Kansas. Yeah, Kansas, Kansas, Kansas other state Coffeeville 702 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: like Garden City, Kansas. Garden City. 703 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: Funny, no story before we leave real quick. You know 704 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: Cam Newton actually went to Juco after he left Florida. Yeah, 705 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: and we lost our state championship game, the seventy five 706 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: to seventy one. But if we would have won, we 707 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: would have had to play Camp Newton uh in the 708 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: Juico National Championship, so you probably would have scored about 709 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: seventy five too. But I just thought I thought that 710 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: was so crazy. 711 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: Small football. This football plays small, small world for sure, 712 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: Man vig Man, appreciate you dog, great job, Man. I 713 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: can't wait to continue to follow up and pay attention 714 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: to everything that you're being able to accomplish. Man, And 715 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: I want to sit up here and now specifically thank 716 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: all of our viewers and listeners out there. 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