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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. We're so

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Speaker 1: happy to be back. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: And if you haven't heard Wednesday's episode, make sure to

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Speaker 2: check it out. We had Natasha on with us and

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Speaker 2: we had such a great time, didn't we.

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Speaker 1: Catch Oh my gosh, how much fun is Natasha? I mean?

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Speaker 1: And how much advice about dating? I feel like I

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Speaker 1: don't have a chance after listening to her advice.

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Speaker 2: Wait, how about that website she told us about to

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Speaker 2: learn the questions to ask to get to know people

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Speaker 2: on your first few dates. That was pretty interesting. I

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Speaker 2: was jotting down notes over here that.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that I don't know? I feel like

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Speaker 1: you and I have asked some pretty good questions. But

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that she's all about like we

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Speaker 1: have to sort of moderate ourselves and figure out how

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Speaker 1: we can be the best version of ourselves to meet

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Speaker 1: other people. I kind of like that thought.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I did too. And the best of all

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Speaker 2: was be comfortable in your own skin, like the woman

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Speaker 2: that rode into us right seventy one years old, because

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Speaker 2: she looks in the mirror and she doesn't see herself

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Speaker 2: like when she was twenty thirty, forty and she feels

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Speaker 2: like all the best parts are done. This is the

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Speaker 1: That's right this and did you love the love that

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Speaker 1: Natasha said? She's leaving New York because men they don't

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Speaker 1: want to commit. She's going to move to Florida. She

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Speaker 1: wants better weather. I can't wait to do a remote

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Speaker 1: with her during a hurricane.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, all right, so you better learn how to

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Speaker 2: play golf though. If she's real and Florida's gonna have.

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Speaker 1: All pickleball stany you got it all right. Today we're

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Speaker 1: back with another round of fan questions, and we have

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Speaker 1: some really juicy ones to get into. But before we

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Speaker 1: dive in, if you have a question for us, send

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Speaker 1: it in now. We love connecting with you all and

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Speaker 1: answering all your questions. It's really easy. Do it now.

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Speaker 1: Just go to bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour, leave

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Speaker 1: us a comment, write a question. We can't wait to

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Speaker 1: answer them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, keep them coming, please, because not only do we

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Speaker 2: love them, we love talking about it and it gives

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Speaker 2: us something to give you some feedback. So, Kathy, really quick,

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Speaker 2: I do have to ask you know you were in

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Speaker 2: my hometown, the Italy, the food. I just tell me

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Speaker 2: about the food.

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Speaker 1: I know you're not a foodie, Susan, I am not

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Speaker 1: a foodie, but let me tell you. Let me give

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Speaker 1: you the quick recap of my trip. Okay, first of all,

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Speaker 1: it was Dickens novel. It was the best of times,

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Speaker 1: it was the worst of times. The sad part first,

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Speaker 1: my daughter's husband father, my daughter's father in law, had

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Speaker 1: a stroke, so please send prayers out for him. And

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Speaker 1: then we had some other issues. But the trip itself,

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Speaker 1: the countryside is beautiful, the cities were beautiful. The food,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a foodie, I loved it's also fresh told. However,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you I'm probably the one and only

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Speaker 1: person who's ever gone to Italy and lost weight. I

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Speaker 1: eat everything in my sight.

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Speaker 2: God, don't say that out loud.

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Speaker 1: The wine, the cheese, the I mean, the place was amazing.

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Speaker 1: We had the beaches to ourselfs because apparently, you know,

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Speaker 1: the vacation in Italy doesn't start until the end of summer. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: but we just had a great time with family and

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Speaker 1: friends and new friends. I gotta say one quick thing

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Speaker 1: about the men Bachelor in Paradise. Any man who's looking

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Speaker 1: for me, he's not coming from Italy. They are all

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Speaker 1: such good looking men, but they all come up to

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Speaker 2: But how about how friendly everybody is?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And the water, the color of the.

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Speaker 2: Water, the architect like. The beauty is everywhere.

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Speaker 1: The beauty is everywhere. We would sit out on plazas

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Speaker 1: and have drinks. You know what. Nobody's in a rush there,

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Speaker 1: nobody's saying, you know, we need that table. We sat

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Speaker 1: closer it truly. I mean there were some sad parts too,

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Speaker 2: What you know, everywhere they.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to move to Europe, I really am. We

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Speaker 1: talk about the drivers though, question before we get on

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Speaker 1: to the next the part here. These their cars are

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Speaker 1: They do, Susan, They drive like maniacs.

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Speaker 2: I was driving there, trust me, and I read a

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Speaker 1: it was. But it was an amazing trip. I cannot

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Speaker 2: I love it there, and I'll go back with you.

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Speaker 1: Now I know why you left, Cook, Now I know.

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Speaker 2: Well that's how I was raised. I mean my grandparents

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm glad you enjoyed it, Kathy.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. We'll go back together and we'll have

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Speaker 2: Navels under the Tuscan sun.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: I have a question for us, Kathy. It's our question

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Speaker 2: of the day.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Susan, Okay, how long should you see someone before putting

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Speaker 2: the boyfriend girlfriend label on it?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Well, for me, I think that term is you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it means different things to different people.

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Speaker 2: What do you think boyfriend girlfriend means?

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Speaker 1: For me? It means the impossible? Right now?

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Speaker 2: For me, it means you don't see anybody else? Isn't

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Speaker 2: that what?

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Speaker 1: Friend? I think for me, I can't speak for everyone.

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Speaker 1: For me, I think it probably does, you know, have

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Speaker 1: the connotation of exclusivity. Yes, sure, and but I think

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, Joe, are we exclusive, then you know that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'd be asking those questions. I think

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Speaker 1: it's just something that develops naturally.

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Speaker 2: So for I'm asking you, though, how long should you

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Speaker 1: I think it depends on the person. I mean, in

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, Kathy, Kathy, you were the

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Speaker 2: Not boyfriend girlfriend, But yeah, you know, sometimes you just click.

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Speaker 1: I know. That's why I say it depends on the guy.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think if you ask ten women, you

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Is there a lall like? Is it

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Speaker 1: Five?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. All right, we're going to do some

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Speaker 1: All right? All right?

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Speaker 2: Let me go with the first one.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Okay Macy from Boston Macie

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Speaker 1: I have a question about bachelor and bachelorette parties. I'm

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Speaker 1: currently engaged to my fiance Tom. We've been together for

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Speaker 1: Everything has been really smooth, but last week the conversation

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Speaker 1: the plans he and his friends have been coming up

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Speaker 1: issue with him in terms of trusting him when he

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Speaker 1: really puts me off. He didn't mention strippers outright, but

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Speaker 1: his plans are basically day club to nightclub with gambling

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Speaker 1: and expensive dinners in between. We can afford it, so

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Speaker 1: the spending doesn't bother me. I didn't really know what

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Speaker 1: a nice celebratory dinner thrown in. The conversation kind of

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Speaker 1: Is it controlling of me to not want him to

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Speaker 2: It's human nature, You're definitely normal. But let him do

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Speaker 2: what he's going to do. He's marrying you, and I

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Speaker 2: I still believe what you don't know don't hurt you.

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Speaker 2: So he's going to strip clubs and having dinners and

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Speaker 2: getting trashed and looking like idiots out in Vegas. I

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Speaker 2: like your idea, the spa weekend.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I mean every every First of all,

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Speaker 1: But other than that, you got nothing to worry about. Macy.

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Speaker 1: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: He's been Vegas, stays in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he's thirty one. He can't party like

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Speaker 1: he did when he was twenty. He's probably gonna have

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Speaker 1: five beers and pass out, so don't worry. But you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I kind of think the same thing. He's marrying you, Macy.

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Speaker 1: He loves you. You know, it's it's going to be

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Speaker 1: something that the story's going to grow with time. You know,

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Speaker 1: at your tenth anniversary, he's going to get to this

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Speaker 1: they lost their ten dollars at the blackjack table. It's

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Speaker 2: Maybe this should be something for you to tell yourself.

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Speaker 2: Do not ask any questions about it. You be the

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Speaker 2: strong one, and maybe at the tenth anniversary you'll find

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Speaker 2: out what he did. But get it out of your mind.

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Speaker 2: Try to be the better person, the bigger person, and

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Speaker 2: don't even ask, Just say, hey, did you have fun?

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Speaker 2: You're back in one piece, Thank goodness, you're not in jail.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for asking us. I hope we helped.

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Speaker 1: Your upcoming wedding.

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Speaker 2: And if you need an efficiant, you know guess what

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Speaker 2: Cat's speaking of. Which, So, somebody did go to Vegas

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Speaker 2: and it was the officiant for a wedding and I

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Speaker 2: got a phone call saying that their efficient got locked

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Speaker 2: up in Vegas? Can I do an emergency wedding?

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Speaker 1: Macie? It was not your it's not your your fance.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. You're good to just the case.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your spa weekend, have a happy life, happy wedding.

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Speaker 1: and they do want the best for you. They're just struggling,

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Speaker 1: they're still mourning, and it's just hard. It's just a

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Speaker 1: really tough situation we're in. But I really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: reaching out, and I hope you reach back out to

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Speaker 1: us and tell us how things are going. I only

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Speaker 1: wish you love and happiness, and I really do hope

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Speaker 1: you find the woman that you want to spend this

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Speaker 1: last great chapter of your life.

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Speaker 2: With absolutely and I wish you luck. And if anybody

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Speaker 2: else has any questions for us, please please just ask.

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Speaker 2: Go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour and ask away.

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Speaker 2: You may even be featured on our podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right for those those are some pretty intense questions,

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Speaker 1: and we're really hoping for the best for all of

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Speaker 1: you in these situations. But let's lighten things up and

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Speaker 1: play a little game. Susan, we're here. It goes another round

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Speaker 1: of moral quandary. This time we're going to switch off

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Speaker 1: reading the quandary and give our thoughts on what we

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Speaker 1: would really do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: All right. You get home from a shopping spree, which

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Speaker 1: in your case is a daily activity, and you realized

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Speaker 1: the shirt that you asked to put back because it

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Speaker 1: was too expensive is in our bag and you weren't

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Speaker 1: charged for it. Do you bring it back and risk

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Speaker 1: getting the employee in trouble?

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Speaker 2: I got all the way home.

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Speaker 1: Oh, come on, Susan, So here's the thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the employee's going to get in trouble. How did

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Speaker 1: the shirt get in your bag? You would think you

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Speaker 1: stole it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, you already got home, That's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I'd still take it back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think i'd have to. I couldn't live with myself,

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Speaker 2: but I would like to think that I could have.

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Speaker 2: Just would you wear it?

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, would you wear something with tags on

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Speaker 1: it and take it back?

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Speaker 2: Hell? No, No, I know people that do that.

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Speaker 1: Though, Yeah I do I wouldn't do it either.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're at a coffee shop and you see someone

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Speaker 2: Do you intervene and risk causing a scene? Or do

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Speaker 2: you stay quiet and not get involved? That reminds me

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Speaker 2: of that show. What would you do?

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Speaker 1: I've done it. I have done this.

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Speaker 2: I definitely get involved.

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Speaker 1: I get him. I have gotten involved. And it actually

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Speaker 1: was at a coffee shop. I looked the guy started

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Speaker 1: screaming at the barista because he didn't think that the

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Speaker 1: looked at him. I mean, he really was just blasting her.

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Speaker 1: And I looked at him. I said, you know, sir,

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Speaker 1: it's very busy in here, and she's working really hard,

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Speaker 1: so maybe you could just be a little patient. And

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Speaker 1: he looked at me and he said, I didn't ask you,

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Speaker 1: and I said, I know you didn't. I just thought

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Speaker 1: you might like to have a little friendly advice. She's

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Speaker 1: working hard, give her a break. And then I turned around.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't say that? I just turn around? But you know,

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Speaker 1: I know some people. Would you do it?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I've done it many times. Yes, that's a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: All right, done it?

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Speaker 1: All right? Next one, your best friend has started becoming

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Speaker 1: more and more aggressive and testy with her husband, often

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Speaker 1: yelling at him for small things like joining group discussions

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Speaker 1: or asking her simple questions. Do you try to step

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Speaker 1: in and ask her what's going on? Or just stay

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Speaker 1: out of it?

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Speaker 2: She's my best friend? You're damn right, yo? What is

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Speaker 2: happening here? What has gotten into you? Why are you

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Speaker 2: treating him like this? Is there something you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about?

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Speaker 1: Would you do it in front of him?

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Speaker 2: Probably not? No, I'd take her aside. She's my best friend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you and I again, we always say sometimes we agree.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you on this. I wouldn't do

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Speaker 1: it in front of him, No, but I'd caller her

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Speaker 1: the next day and grab a couple of coffee. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Come on outside with me for a minute. I want

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Speaker 2: to show you something like what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I thought you loved this guy? What did he do?

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Speaker 1: And let me tell you how hard it is to

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Speaker 1: find a good guy. Stop screwing this up.

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Speaker 2: You're an asshole?

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Speaker 1: All right. Well that's all for today's episode of Golden Hour.

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Speaker 1: We've had a blast. We hope you have as well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you all so much. Be sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 2: We have new episodes coming out every week that you

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Speaker 2: do not want to miss.

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Speaker 1: And please make sure to send us those questions. It's

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Speaker 1: really easy. All you have to do is head to

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Speaker 1: voice them. You can send us a comment. We love

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Speaker 1: hearing from you.

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